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Hour 3 – Investigating Malik “Money” Beasley · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 2: Oh, what's going on? Hope you're enjoying your early Tuesday mornings.
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Speaker 2: Pleasure to be hanging out with you, guys. So let
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Speaker 2: me lay out one story and we'll get to the militia.
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Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate the militia. They're very interactive on
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Speaker 2: this fill in show. Really love that. Love that. So
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Speaker 2: I won't put you on hold for too long, but
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Speaker 2: let me throw one story out there and then I'll
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Speaker 2: work in the militia. So there's an investigation that could
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Speaker 2: go one of two very different ways. Okay, this would
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Speaker 2: be Malik Beasley's. He's with the Detroit Pistons this past season,
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Speaker 2: and he is under federal investigation. So Malik he allegedly
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Speaker 2: has been closely connected to gambling sports gambling. So there
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Speaker 2: are allegations of gambling related to NBA games and prop bets.
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Speaker 2: So these allegations are from the twenty twenty three to
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Speaker 2: twenty four season. This wasn't the past season. It was
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Speaker 2: the year before the past season, right, So it's two
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Speaker 2: years ago when Beasley played for the Bucks. He played
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Speaker 2: really well for the Pistons this past year, but the
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Speaker 2: season at question was two seasons ago when he was
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Speaker 2: with the Bucks. So one of the stories is great.
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Speaker 2: This is from January twenty twenty four. So there a
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Speaker 2: gambling industry source pointed to a game between the Bucks
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Speaker 2: and the Blazers. This was on January thirty first, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty four. The odds on Beasley recording fewer than two
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Speaker 2: and a half rebounds moved significantly at sportsbooks before the game.
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Speaker 2: How much did these gambling odds move, Well, initially it
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Speaker 2: was about plus one twenty for the under, and it
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Speaker 2: surged to minus two point fifty on the under due
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Speaker 2: to all the betting actions. So he went from put
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Speaker 2: it this way, if you put one hundred dollars on
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Speaker 2: plus one twenty odds, you would win one hundred and
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Speaker 2: twenty dollars. You would have to risk two hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty dollars at minus two fifty just to win one
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Speaker 2: hundred dollars. So this is a big move. All these
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Speaker 2: gamblers are like, give me the under, give me the under,
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Speaker 2: give me the under on his two and a half rebounds,
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Speaker 2: and so The funny thing is that Beasley finished that
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Speaker 2: game with six six rebounds, So he went over everybody
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Speaker 2: that's just hammering the under They were wrong and they
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Speaker 2: lost their bets. But the unusual activity has got the
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Speaker 2: Feds that poking their big No, they're big snouts. They
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Speaker 2: want to find out more. What's going on with Malik
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Speaker 2: Beasley is something is they have ulterior motives? Something the
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Speaker 2: farious going on here with Malik. Now, this past season
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Speaker 2: with the Pistons, Malik was just draining threes. Three hundred
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Speaker 2: and nineteen made three pointers. That's the most in a
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Speaker 2: season in Pistons franchise history. So before all the federal
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Speaker 2: investigations and all this stuff started, the Pistons in Beasley,
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Speaker 2: they're talking about a contract extension, looking at a three year,
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Speaker 2: forty two million dollar contract extension. But now the talks
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Speaker 2: are on pause based on the federal investigation. So the
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Speaker 2: first part of this is man Malik could have really
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Speaker 2: screwed things up for himself, where we don't know. These
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Speaker 2: are just allegations. We don't know if he was placing bets.
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Speaker 2: We don't know, if he's placing illegal bets, giving inside information,
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Speaker 2: what have you. We don't know yet, we do know
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Speaker 2: that this is the same US District Attorney's Office for
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Speaker 2: the Eastern District of New York. It's the same outfit
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Speaker 2: that charged six people in the Johntay Porter affair. So
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Speaker 2: that's like, oh, so, Johntay Porter, he got banned for life.
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Speaker 2: Like the old nWo days. Once you go in WO brother,
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Speaker 2: you go in WO four life, Right, John Tay Porter
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Speaker 2: is gone for life. So the same DA's office that
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Speaker 2: investigated that Johntay Porter situation, they're investigating Malik Beasley now.
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Speaker 2: So it's like, uh ohhh, we'll see, we'll see if
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Speaker 2: there's any fire. There's some smoke, We'll see if there's fire.
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Speaker 2: But the way it went for John Tay, he was
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Speaker 2: disclosing confidential information to sports betters and he also wagered
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Speaker 2: on games that he participating in. So the NBA was like, hey,
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Speaker 2: how about you never step foot on an NBA court
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Speaker 2: again as a player. How about that John Tay banned
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Speaker 2: for life? See you he gone? Now the other way
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Speaker 2: it could go. Terry Rozier, So at the time, Scary Terry.
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Speaker 2: He was a member of the Charlotte Hornets and there
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Speaker 2: were some unusual betting patterns surrounding him in a March
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three game that he was playing in. But
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Speaker 2: Rosier hasn't been charged with any crime and he hasn't
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Speaker 2: faced any sanctions from the NBA. So you see these
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Speaker 2: two paths that potentially Malik Beasley could end up on.
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Speaker 2: One of them behind door number one was Terry Rozier,
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Speaker 2: no penalties, no charges. All good, Continue your NBA career
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Speaker 2: as just something that popped up on the radar, some
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Speaker 2: weird betting pattern, but you're cleared. It's basically where it
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Speaker 2: is right now. John tay Porter, all right, unusual betting pattern,
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Speaker 2: something's weird. Let's investigate. Oh you were giving inside information.
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Speaker 2: Oh you were betting on these games. You were participating
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Speaker 2: in your banned for life. So it could go one
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Speaker 2: of two very different ways from Malik Beasley. And it's
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Speaker 2: interesting because people are they're looking at the highlights from
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Speaker 2: his past games and we're like, wait a minute, you
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Speaker 2: didn't really go for that rebound right there. Anything that
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Speaker 2: doesn't quite pass the smell test. And think about this now,
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Speaker 2: because you're looking at all these highlights from a different perspective.
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Speaker 2: You're looking at any if you're watching the game. You
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Speaker 2: might not think anything of it. You might be like, hey,
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Speaker 2: he just didn't get that rebound er. He missed that
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Speaker 2: open you know, fifteen foot shot. That happens. But now
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Speaker 2: that there's a federal investigation, like people are going through
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Speaker 2: all of his videos and they're like, whoa, this looks
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Speaker 2: a little shady. How do you explain this exactly? So
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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see if Malika gets through this. But
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, this is what I do know.
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Speaker 2: I'm a sports better, but I do not understand the
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Speaker 2: logic or the fascination with sports betting to the point
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Speaker 2: where it could cost you a forty two million dollar
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Speaker 2: contract extension. I'll tell you this, and your unless you're
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Speaker 2: one of the sharpest of the sharp betters, which most
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Speaker 2: likely you're not. Most people aren't. Like overwhelmingly people end
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Speaker 2: up on the losing side of sports betting. So unless
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Speaker 2: you are just gifted beyond belief as a sports better,
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Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna make anywhere near millions and millions
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Speaker 2: of dollars. Like, why would you risk your career in
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Speaker 2: a steddy paycheck to gamble on whatever you're gambling on.
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Speaker 2: That's just crazy And I'm not saying Maleak did that.
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying for any athlete that is willing to
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Speaker 2: risk his or her contract because they want to do
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Speaker 2: some sports betting, it's like, bro, take the sure bet.
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Speaker 2: You're a professional basketball player. Just take the paychecks. Man. Like,
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Speaker 2: you don't need to gamble on the Padres Phillies game.
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Speaker 2: You could do that legally, but you definitely don't need
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Speaker 2: to bet on NBA games, especially NBA games that you're
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Speaker 2: playing in. They're gonna find out and you're gonna get
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Speaker 2: the eve ho. I don't know why you would take
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Speaker 2: a chance like that, but a lot of athletes do.
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Speaker 2: I don't get it. Don't get it. Okay, that's promise.
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Speaker 2: Let's get to the militia here. Eight seven, seven ninety
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Speaker 2: nine on Fox is the number. I believe our guy
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Speaker 2: John in La is back with us. He ran away,
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Speaker 2: he ran back, John, what's going on, buddy, you're on
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Maybe he didn't run back, Maybe he
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Speaker 2: ran away again.
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Speaker 3: M Oh my goodness, John.
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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's gonna work out
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Speaker 2: with John tonight. I don't think it's I don't think
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Speaker 2: it's in the cards. Yeah, we got Danny Danny is
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Speaker 2: in Boston. What's going on? Danny?
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Speaker 4: Hey, what's up? Brian? So mister new has been out
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Speaker 4: last couple of weeks, random days off which he's been
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Speaker 4: doing that? Huh?
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Speaker 2: I think so, I hope. So, I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: can't tell you for sure, but I think it's just
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Speaker 2: summer days off here and there is my guess.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I want to talk to you about the
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Speaker 4: gambling with these plays? Is that chill time? Brian? Do
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Speaker 4: you know so this guy's uh, what's his name name?
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Speaker 2: Malik Beasley? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: Is there any jail time? Was just you know, a
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Speaker 4: slapping the wretch?
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Speaker 2: I well, I don't believe it's gonna be jail time.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that for sure, but I don't believe. So.
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Speaker 2: I don't think John tay Porter is doing any ja
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Speaker 2: old time. He's just banned for life. So I think
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Speaker 2: it's more that. I think it's you're just gonna get
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Speaker 2: hit in the wallet like crazy like Malik Beasley. Could
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Speaker 2: he's gonna make millions and millions of dollars the rest
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Speaker 2: of his career.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it doesn't make any sense. And uh, they
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Speaker 4: got st told these guys in jail. I think I
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Speaker 4: don't know doing that, that's going to ruin the whole
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Speaker 4: game of all four sports.
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Speaker 5: Of doing that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's interesting point.
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Speaker 4: But I'm calling because, as you know, I think you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm a garbage man to veto over here in Boston,
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Speaker 4: and there's a big company that I went on strike
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Speaker 4: two hours ago. So I want to wish those guys
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Speaker 4: the best pay services. I don't know if you guys
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Speaker 4: have them out there. We got four hundred guys over
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Speaker 4: here out on the street now, Bryan, Yeah, twelve o'clock.
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Speaker 4: So it's a pretty serious news story over here. So
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Speaker 4: and that's what's going on as right now over here
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Speaker 4: in Blots.
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Speaker 2: So I hope it works out, man.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I just think about the weather in that area. You know,
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Speaker 2: that's a rough job. But yeah, the top of it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hot right now. It's gonna be even hotter
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Speaker 4: in a couple hours. And those guys are all over there.
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Speaker 4: There's street different yards over there that are going on strike.
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Speaker 4: And it's pretty serious news as of right now.
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Speaker 2: All right, you know it's funny, Danny. I'll tell you
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Speaker 2: a quick story. So, oh gosh, could you look it up?
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Speaker 2: The name? I can never remember this guy's name, but
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Speaker 2: the singer of a band named Stained. He's gone country
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Speaker 2: and I did an interview with him one time, but
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Speaker 2: I can't I can never Aaron Lewis there, you go,
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Speaker 2: very talented singer. But the way it works in like
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Speaker 2: local radio. I was in New York at the time.
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Speaker 2: It was in Albany, New York. Shout out a great
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Speaker 2: area to do sports radio. It's a great area sports wise,
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Speaker 2: passionate fans all that. But if a guy comes by
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Speaker 2: the station, like you got all these different stations, and
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Speaker 2: so if someone stops by the rock station or the
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Speaker 2: country station or the rap station whatever, they'll they'll be like, hey,
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Speaker 2: so and so stopped in. You want to you want
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Speaker 2: to interview this person? And a lot of times it's
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Speaker 2: like yeah, sure, why not. So they asked me if
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Speaker 2: you want to interview Aaron Lewis, and I'm like, yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 2: And so I'll never forget. I asked Aaron just to
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Speaker 2: comm and like, hey, how's everything going.
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Speaker 7: Man?
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Speaker 2: He had a kid, I want to say it was
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Speaker 2: a daughter in the Boston area and Aaron Lewis, out
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Speaker 2: of nowhere, just goes on this rant about zoning issues
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Speaker 2: and how he wanted his daughter to go to one
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Speaker 2: school and she wasn't allowed to and she had to
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Speaker 2: go to this other school. But anyway, what you're telling
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Speaker 2: me about, you know, the garbage strike, it made me
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Speaker 2: think of Aaron Lewis going off on Boston zoning issues.
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Speaker 2: So hopefully, hopefully those have been ironed out since that
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Speaker 2: time though.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. So, Brian, what do you have a second job?
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Speaker 4: I mean this, uh well, I know it's kind of
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Speaker 4: personal question, but I was curious about that. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I know you're a failing guy, but you got a
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Speaker 4: second job do with this, So I'm just you know,
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Speaker 4: I would just make the payments.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I get by with Fox. I do
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Speaker 2: my Saturday Sunday thing and just fill in. I fill
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Speaker 2: in at a lot of like local stations like Indianapolis
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Speaker 2: sometimes Milwaukee, just random places here and there.
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Speaker 4: So still got a good deal, Yeah, I got a
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Speaker 4: good deal going on there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I'd like to get something more steady
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Speaker 2: in the week, you know, like I was doing a
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Speaker 2: local and Portland for about three years, so I would
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Speaker 2: like to find something more steady during the week.
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Speaker 4: But no, eventually, maybe eventually it's gonna come yeah, time
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Speaker 4: and time, my friends.
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Speaker 2: There you go. I appreciate that, Danny good stuff.
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Speaker 4: No, bro, hey, and there's a there was a random
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Speaker 4: call a lot week about misteets in there. There was
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Speaker 4: Lorraina there, and there's nothing fake about uh Lorraina Peterson.
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Speaker 4: I don't know who the woman was, but Lorraina Peterson
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Speaker 4: is uh is not fake. Somebody from I forgot her name.
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Speaker 1: But something you talking about Tammy and Montana, that girl
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Speaker 1: with the cows.
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Speaker 4: I just I don't know what that was all bout.
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Speaker 4: I don't know what that was all about. But I
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Speaker 4: never heard her before, and I listened to the show
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Speaker 4: a lot, as you know. So, but there's nothing fake
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Speaker 4: about you.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely very nice, all right, Danny good stuff. Man, appreciate
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Speaker 2: the call. Yeah I might. I might have to find
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Speaker 2: a side gig that has good health benefits. The whole thing, man, wow,
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Speaker 2: the whole thing. That's all I know is uh, finding
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Speaker 2: like decent health insurance post stroke. That the easiest things.
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Speaker 3: Because now you're a flight risk.
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Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, because it's funny. So I won't tell
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Speaker 2: you the whole story because you know, I don't want
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Speaker 2: it to be long and drawn out. But I had
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Speaker 2: a stroke on May fifth, and I had this like
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Speaker 2: cheap kind of like get me by insurance, right, and
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Speaker 2: it's only like a four month plan, and so that
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Speaker 2: ran out at the beginning of June. So I have
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Speaker 2: to sign up for a new short term policy. And
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Speaker 2: I talked to this broker and the guy was like, hey,
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Speaker 2: you can't do the same thing you did because you've
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Speaker 2: done it X amount of times and you have to
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Speaker 2: take it a year long policy. I'm like, okay. He's like, man,
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Speaker 2: you can't find the similar policy because you have a
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Speaker 2: pre existing condition, right, you had a stroke, so you're
15:34
Speaker 2: gonna be eliminated from some of these policies. So he's like,
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Speaker 2: I found something that's really close, really close to what
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Speaker 2: you just had. I'm like, all right, sounds good, sign
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Speaker 2: me up for that. So I had to go to
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Speaker 2: the cardiologist a couple of weeks ago and I'm trying
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Speaker 2: to give them my insurance number and they're running it
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Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, nothing's showing up. I got nothing.
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Speaker 2: So I call and I'm like, so, what's the deal.
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Speaker 2: What number do I give them? And the lady says,
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Speaker 2: so your new health insurance it doesn't work like your
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Speaker 2: old health insurance at all. The way this new one
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Speaker 2: works is we don't cover office visits, we don't do
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Speaker 2: anything like that. I'm like, we're off to a bad start.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, And she's like, yeah, you just pay the
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Speaker 2: whole bill and then you mail us a copy and
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Speaker 2: we might pay some of it. And I'm like, that
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Speaker 2: sounds awful. That doesn't even sound like insurance. And so
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Speaker 2: i'd like, I told the cardio the cardiologist, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to reschedule until I work out my
16:36
Speaker 2: health insurance stuff here. This is freaking crazy. I'm not
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Speaker 2: paying out of pocket. You realize how much money that
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Speaker 2: could be.
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Speaker 3: That's wild.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, I might have to be
16:47
Speaker 2: a blackjack dealer out here or something.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, an insurance as a scam.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's pretty rough. So we're figuring it out.
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Speaker 2: It'll be all right. But yeah, with Danny asking that question,
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Speaker 2: I might need to find, uh, you know, maybe like
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Speaker 2: Ariya needs, say a new Life card or something. I
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Speaker 2: don't know, I gotta find something with possible good health benefits.
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Speaker 2: It'll work out. It's no big deal, all right. Coming
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Speaker 2: up next, it's about way more than just talent. So
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Speaker 2: Why does the conversation always revolve around just talent? I
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Speaker 2: don't get it. I'll lay it out for you. Maybe
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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, dude, Lamborghini all day. You can do
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Speaker 2: zero to sixty and like two seconds flat. Get now,
20:06
Speaker 2: you could do the same thing with a Porsche. But
20:08
Speaker 2: the Lamborghini all day. It's like, that's not a great argument, man,
20:12
Speaker 2: if it applies to the other guy too. Here's my
20:16
Speaker 2: argument with why I would go with Mahomes currently over
20:21
Speaker 2: prime Aaron Rodgers and prime Aaron Rodgers was a freaking
20:25
Speaker 2: baller prime Aaron Rodgers because Stephen A always says was
20:30
Speaker 2: a bad man. He was, He was an absolutely bad man.
20:36
Speaker 2: But here's the deal. I don't know why. I don't
20:40
Speaker 2: know why when we're talking about Aaron Rodgers it's almost
20:45
Speaker 2: solely about his talent, and I'm pulling my hair out.
20:52
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's more than just talent. Granted. Aaron Rodgers
20:57
Speaker 2: in his prime incredibly talented. The guy could throw off platform,
21:02
Speaker 2: could buy time, get out of the pocket, make special
21:06
Speaker 2: plays happen, use his athleticism. He was a really, really
21:10
Speaker 2: special quarterback. But it's not just about talent. It's a
21:16
Speaker 2: team game. It's the ultimate team game. So I don't
21:20
Speaker 2: know why we only make it about talent individual numbers.
21:25
Speaker 2: You know what your stats are. It's not just about
21:28
Speaker 2: stats and talent. If you look at prime Rogers versus
21:33
Speaker 2: current Mahomes, something that's outside of talent, that's outside of stats.
21:39
Speaker 2: It's just the intangibles. Ask yourself this, who's better for
21:44
Speaker 2: your football team? Who's better for it? Have you ever
21:50
Speaker 2: heard anybody say man Mahomes he's high maintenance, he's a diva,
21:55
Speaker 2: he's hard to get along with, he's a distraction at times.
21:59
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard anyone say those things about Mahomes. No,
22:02
Speaker 2: you haven't, because he's not those things. Aaron Rodgers has
22:07
Speaker 2: been all of those things at various stages of his career.
22:11
Speaker 2: He has been high maintenance, he has been hard to
22:13
Speaker 2: get along with. He has been a distraction at times
22:16
Speaker 2: with his constant media tours. You know what I mean like,
22:20
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is a guy, although incredibly talented, although incredibly
22:25
Speaker 2: productive at many times, has made winning harder. It's hard
22:31
Speaker 2: enough to win in the NFL at a high rate.
22:35
Speaker 2: You don't need anyone making it harder. And Rogers has
22:39
Speaker 2: done that repeatedly in his NFL career, including his prime
22:45
Speaker 2: And so this idea of well, man, you're just look
22:48
Speaker 2: at how talented he is. I'm like, it's more than
22:51
Speaker 2: just talent. Why are we making it solely about talent.
22:55
Speaker 2: No one's arguing. No one's saying, Hi, Rodgers, wasn't that talented.
22:59
Speaker 2: I don't know why no one says that? Right, Like,
23:04
Speaker 2: I don't. It goes back to I keep thinking about
23:09
Speaker 2: the top one hundred list in the NFL. Theyd always
23:12
Speaker 2: come out with a new one each year. How many
23:15
Speaker 2: years was Aaron Rodgers ranked ahead of Tom Brady, like
23:20
Speaker 2: on a routine basis, and it was the same. Oh
23:24
Speaker 2: you look at Rogers, I mean, just talent wise, are
23:27
Speaker 2: you telling me tom Brady's more talented than Aaron Rodgers?
23:29
Speaker 2: I gotta put Rogers ahead of Tom Brady? Bad bad, bad,
23:32
Speaker 2: bad bad. It's like, bro, look how that works out.
23:36
Speaker 2: You take Rogers and his talent and have fun with that.
23:39
Speaker 2: I'll take Brady and his lack of Rogers talent, and
23:44
Speaker 2: I'll have seven rings at the end of the day.
23:47
Speaker 2: I'll go on that expressway. Thank you. You can take
23:50
Speaker 2: your Aaron Rodgers scenic route. We'll call it the Talent Expressway,
23:56
Speaker 2: you know, the talent pch If you will, do you
23:59
Speaker 2: go on that road to the tune of one super
24:02
Speaker 2: Bowl and some high maintenance diva tendencies, and you have
24:07
Speaker 2: fun with the talent. You have fun with the individual numbers.
24:10
Speaker 2: You know, I got a stack of rings over here,
24:13
Speaker 2: and you just want to make it about talent. Like
24:15
Speaker 2: same thing with Brady. Granted he was not more talented
24:19
Speaker 2: than Aaron Rodgers, But which would you rather have? Would
24:23
Speaker 2: you have Rogers and his talent or Brady and his
24:27
Speaker 2: lesser talent? But being a competitive maniac completely like dedicating
24:34
Speaker 2: himself to a meticulous diet and preparation, all of those things,
24:40
Speaker 2: getting the absolute best out of the abilities he had,
24:45
Speaker 2: being a team guy. When was Tom Brady a diva?
24:48
Speaker 2: When was he high maintenance, just a distraction, hard to
24:51
Speaker 2: get along with? When was he any of those things?
24:55
Speaker 2: What are we talking about here? It drives me insane,
25:00
Speaker 2: just like I said then, year in and year out, like, oh,
25:04
Speaker 2: I gotta put Rogers number one. It is a talent.
25:06
Speaker 2: The things that this guy can do. Yeah, it's like
25:09
Speaker 2: one of these things where it's like high school football
25:12
Speaker 2: in a way. You know, you'd have like your biggest,
25:14
Speaker 2: strongest dude get off the bus first, and the other
25:17
Speaker 2: team's like, whoa holy cow? Right, that sort of thing.
25:22
Speaker 2: I get that. We ow and ah about Rogers' talent
25:25
Speaker 2: in his prime years, but a lot of people take
25:29
Speaker 2: it way too far based solely on that. It's like,
25:35
Speaker 2: what do you have to show for it? At the
25:38
Speaker 2: end of the day, what is it? What are we
25:42
Speaker 2: doing this for? Is it just a talent competition? Or
25:46
Speaker 2: is it to win? Sometimes a lesser talented player is
25:52
Speaker 2: a better winner. Wouldn't you make it more about winning
25:57
Speaker 2: than talent? I would I don't know, man, Like you
26:02
Speaker 2: could do that with the NFL Draft, we just had
26:06
Speaker 2: I get talent. These players are gonna go high if
26:09
Speaker 2: they're incredibly talented. But listen, there have been plenty of
26:14
Speaker 2: talented players throughout the years that were not great at winning,
26:18
Speaker 2: and there are some lesser talented players that were fantastic
26:21
Speaker 2: at winning, got the most out of their abilities. Like,
26:25
Speaker 2: I don't know, we just we were talking about Dolphins
26:27
Speaker 2: uniforms earlier this evening call her checked in. I think
26:30
Speaker 2: it was e Dog. We were doing a guessing game,
26:32
Speaker 2: like what Dolphins uniform he had. But it made me
26:35
Speaker 2: think of Zach Thomas. Like, Zach Thomas was not this
26:41
Speaker 2: outstandingly talented player. Right, He's a fifth round pick, a
26:47
Speaker 2: little undersized, a little slower, like just raw talent. There's
26:51
Speaker 2: a reason he went in the fifth round. Okay, he's
26:55
Speaker 2: one of the best players in Dolphins franchise history. Guy
26:59
Speaker 2: had great eight instincts, outstanding linebacker, great winner, all across
27:04
Speaker 2: the board. Like, so that's the thing. You might have
27:07
Speaker 2: the more talented first round pick, but yet a team
27:11
Speaker 2: that goes with a fifth rounder that's got better instincts,
27:14
Speaker 2: that is just a more competitive maniac that gets the
27:17
Speaker 2: most out of their ability, You're better off in the
27:19
Speaker 2: long run with the lesser talented guy. It happens all
27:23
Speaker 2: the time in the NFL. So I don't know why
27:27
Speaker 2: we're just so beholden to the talent thing when it
27:29
Speaker 2: comes to Rogers. I don't get that. Don't get it.
27:33
Speaker 2: So I would not agree with with Big Ben right there.
27:37
Speaker 2: I would take current Mahomes all day, who's got three
27:40
Speaker 2: times the rings as Rogers, who's been every bit as talented.
27:46
Speaker 2: It's not like there's a separation between prime Rogers and
27:49
Speaker 2: current Mahomes in the talent department. Mahomes does crazy things
27:53
Speaker 2: on a routine basis. He's throwing left handed passes, he's
27:57
Speaker 2: doing behind the back stuff like, he's doing wild things.
28:01
Speaker 2: Like he's outstandingly talented as productive individual stats wise, and
28:10
Speaker 2: he's got much more to show for it in terms
28:12
Speaker 2: of rings. So I you can have Rogers, and I'm
28:17
Speaker 2: not gonna sell him short. I don't mean to. I'm
28:20
Speaker 2: not trying to. I'm just saying it's more than just talent.
28:23
Speaker 2: Consider more than just talent. My gosh, but that's what
28:27
Speaker 2: a lot of people do. They do it time and
28:28
Speaker 2: time again. Don't get that all right? Eight seven seven
28:32
Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox is the phone number. Let's get
28:35
Speaker 2: the militia in here. My guy Poppy is in San Diego.
28:39
Speaker 2: I need some locks on the show. Poppy, what is
28:42
Speaker 2: going on? Buddy?
28:44
Speaker 6: You gotta hear your friend. You're gonna have some luck.
28:46
Speaker 6: You might got some good tints for you how to
28:48
Speaker 6: make some money. You know on sports setting, you're like,
28:51
Speaker 6: don't do it too much. Parlais you know, do it
28:54
Speaker 6: for fun, do straight bet tony because the parlais long
28:57
Speaker 6: term you're gonna lose money, you know, so you don't
28:59
Speaker 6: want to do that. And uh, the tip I can
29:02
Speaker 6: give you, I know you're gonna be going. I can't
29:04
Speaker 6: wait to hear your poker turnament with Cooper, you know,
29:06
Speaker 6: oh yeah, yeah.
29:08
Speaker 7: So.
29:10
Speaker 6: The tip I could give you always trust your gut.
29:12
Speaker 6: So when you're going right there, like don't feel their energy,
29:15
Speaker 6: don't get intimided of no one. Have confidence on there.
29:19
Speaker 4: You're gonna do good.
29:21
Speaker 6: Like trust your gut, like your first instinct. Like when
29:24
Speaker 6: we're doing the sports betting, we're hearing all these people.
29:27
Speaker 6: There's experts that say business and that Like me, I'm
29:30
Speaker 6: going to give you guys pick and you guys are
29:32
Speaker 6: gonna love it. And you know you just got to
29:34
Speaker 6: trust your guard and for for the picks I got,
29:37
Speaker 6: I got some pick for you.
29:39
Speaker 2: What do you got for me?
29:41
Speaker 6: The Dodgers are going to play the white sauce right
29:43
Speaker 6: and and young my most I really love him.
29:46
Speaker 7: Uh.
29:47
Speaker 6: The Dodgers kind of struggle when he's on the mound,
29:49
Speaker 6: they don't win by much and someday lose. I just
29:53
Speaker 6: have a feeling tomorrow, I'm going with the gut right here,
29:55
Speaker 6: they're playing at home, but he's going to be happy
29:57
Speaker 6: with this. I'm going to take the home seeing the
29:59
Speaker 6: Dodgers and they're gonna win by over two point five runs.
30:03
Speaker 6: That's even money. So that that's a good one right there.
30:07
Speaker 6: And I know a lot of people are bashing I
30:08
Speaker 6: got another pick the Mets, right, A lot of people
30:11
Speaker 6: are bashing the Mets, and they're doing better, and I
30:14
Speaker 6: think they're gonna finally lose that like when they're gonna
30:19
Speaker 6: stop that losing streak, and we're gonna go with the Mets,
30:21
Speaker 6: right minus one twenty one. That's really great line, right,
30:27
Speaker 6: And and the revenge game. Revenge game was who the
30:32
Speaker 6: Pads are gonna play? Playing against the Phillies. Everyone, the
30:34
Speaker 6: whole world's gonna be like Phillies, Phillies. Yeah, uh, you
30:38
Speaker 6: know my men'sor Ben Maller told me the other night
30:40
Speaker 6: to say the padres so in his honor, we're gonna
30:44
Speaker 6: take him.
30:44
Speaker 4: When the whole world's.
30:45
Speaker 6: Against the Padres plus one. That's my wild man. Guys
30:49
Speaker 6: said that you want to They have a great picture
30:53
Speaker 6: on the mound with Pabita. I believe Pavita. So I'm
30:56
Speaker 6: really loving that one. And I get save the best
30:58
Speaker 6: for a lot of people want to hear in the America.
31:01
Speaker 6: Let's talk about soccer tomorrow, Real Much Rid. One of
31:04
Speaker 6: the best teams that you're up in is Spain against
31:07
Speaker 6: your van Tools and that gn's gonna be a nerdy one. Guys,
31:11
Speaker 6: I'm really liking Real Much Rid at one fifteen. That's
31:14
Speaker 6: good value. So those are my thanks, Brian. What are
31:16
Speaker 6: you thinking?
31:17
Speaker 2: Okay? All right, I like what you're laying out here. Uh, Poppy,
31:21
Speaker 2: you're busy here, Like I don't want to go against
31:25
Speaker 2: your initial advice. But we got a four leg parlay here.
31:28
Speaker 2: That's right. You know, it's on a t right. You
31:30
Speaker 2: don't want to combine all this stuff together. It sounds
31:33
Speaker 2: like a four and oh.
31:36
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I think I'll be four and oh.
31:40
Speaker 6: But I'll always tell you, guys, just a straight fans.
31:43
Speaker 2: I hear, no, I got you, I got you on
31:47
Speaker 2: that poppy good stuff.
31:48
Speaker 7: Man.
31:48
Speaker 2: I appreciate hearing from you. I'll tell you what I've
31:51
Speaker 2: normally been in Jacob de Gram under auto mode. You know,
31:58
Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram is going for the Rangers, and man,
32:01
Speaker 2: he's been sensational and a lot of his games. The
32:05
Speaker 2: underhits going up against the Orioles total is only seven.
32:09
Speaker 2: It's just it's low. It's low, but Orioles Ranger. I
32:14
Speaker 2: haven't been able to dive fully into that game, but
32:17
Speaker 2: initially just scrolling through it, it's one I have my
32:21
Speaker 2: eye on. But Popu laid out all of his picks.
32:24
Speaker 2: Good stuff right there. Okay, coming up, I'll throw the poker,
32:29
Speaker 2: the Vegas Poker story with with Coop your way and uh,
32:34
Speaker 2: let me just say, manage your expectations on how how
32:38
Speaker 2: it played out. Okay, let's manage the expectator. Let's bring
32:44
Speaker 2: it down, like do you want to bracelet No, Let's
32:47
Speaker 2: let's bring it down a little bit, a little bit,
32:49
Speaker 2: just a little bit, and uh I'll hopefully not greatly
32:52
Speaker 2: disappoint you guys. Uh So I'll show that with you
32:55
Speaker 2: and we'll get to the militia, some people lined up.
32:57
Speaker 2: We'll go rapid fire. I'm not gonna tease anything. We're
33:00
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33:02
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Speaker 2: should be. Yeah, So I got to see Coop a
33:37
Speaker 2: couple of days ago. Justin Cooper, big Ben Mallar producer.
33:41
Speaker 2: He's out here in Vegas doing all the poker tournaments.
33:43
Speaker 2: I actually got. I grabbed some food with Kat with
33:48
Speaker 2: his girl. So's the three of us. That was a
33:50
Speaker 2: lot of fun fun. Oh had a Uh Where'd I
33:55
Speaker 2: have a pulled pork sandwich? I think is what?
33:58
Speaker 7: I had?
33:59
Speaker 2: Delicious? Wherever we were?
34:00
Speaker 3: Yeah? Which hotel were you guys in?
34:03
Speaker 2: He's fond of the MGM stuff.
34:06
Speaker 3: That's where you met up.
34:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was someplace in there, very good.
34:11
Speaker 3: He likes the sports bar that's in there.
34:13
Speaker 2: You know, it might have been the same one, might
34:15
Speaker 2: have been.
34:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's probably the sports bar.
34:17
Speaker 2: It's funny because I asked the guy. I was like,
34:18
Speaker 2: could you It's gonna sound weird, but could you get
34:21
Speaker 2: the w NBA game on?
34:23
Speaker 3: Oh you did not?
34:24
Speaker 2: I did. Katon Cooper's just laughing at me, and he
34:27
Speaker 2: has his sheet, Lorraine. He has this whole sheet. This
34:31
Speaker 2: guy was great and he's like, I don't know, man,
34:34
Speaker 2: can you see it listed? Because I don't see it.
34:37
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing it, And I'm like thumbing through all
34:39
Speaker 2: these pages and it's everything under the sun. It's literally cricket.
34:46
Speaker 2: It's like darts. It's all this random stuff. No w
34:50
Speaker 2: NBA nowhere to be. I'm like, wow, that league.
34:54
Speaker 3: And yet they're adding how many more teams?
34:56
Speaker 2: Five more teams in the next five years. You gotta
34:59
Speaker 2: get some very common stuff ironed out.
35:02
Speaker 3: Supply and demand doesn't seem to be matching here.
35:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, w we gotta get this going. But Coop,
35:08
Speaker 2: he talked me into playing in a poker tournament, so
35:11
Speaker 2: it was this Texas hold him. It's called the Gladiator Tournament.
35:15
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I have no idea why, but
35:18
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's the buy in? Give me like a
35:21
Speaker 2: cheaper buy in. He's like, this is one of the
35:22
Speaker 2: cheaper ones. It's three hundred dollars. I'm like three three
35:25
Speaker 2: hundred dollars for the buy in. Coop, what the hell?
35:27
Speaker 2: He's like, no, dude, that's pretty cheap. That's actually pretty affordable.
35:31
Speaker 2: You might want to do that one. And Coop made
35:33
Speaker 2: it to the second day and I'm like, all right,
35:37
Speaker 2: So I was doing my Day one tournament and like,
35:39
Speaker 2: there's a chance if I survive, we could be heads
35:42
Speaker 2: up and like the same poker table, right Like He's like, yeah,
35:46
Speaker 2: it's possible. So I did not survive day one. My
35:50
Speaker 2: goal was to win a hand and survive to the
35:55
Speaker 2: next break. You know, it's like baby.
35:57
Speaker 3: Goals, baby steps, baby step.
35:59
Speaker 2: Now. I was just gonna to add more baby goals
36:01
Speaker 2: along the way, you know. So good news. I did
36:04
Speaker 2: win a hand. It was the most uneventful hand of
36:08
Speaker 2: all time. It was me and this lady next to me.
36:11
Speaker 2: No one bet the whole time, turn River, no bets, nothing,
36:18
Speaker 2: and we checked it all the way. I had ace
36:20
Speaker 2: high and wan she had King Queen and I laughed
36:24
Speaker 2: and I said, that was uneventful, you know, but I won.
36:27
Speaker 2: I won like blinds, that's it. And I made a
36:32
Speaker 2: couple of mistakes. The mistake I made was not being
36:34
Speaker 2: aggressive enough one hand, like I had Ace King flopped
36:38
Speaker 2: an ace and I just bet twelve hundred. So you
36:41
Speaker 2: get thirty thousand dollars in chips. It's just your chip stack.
36:47
Speaker 2: So I bet twelve hundred. Turn comes, I bet another
36:50
Speaker 2: twelve hundred. That was my mistake. I let this guy just.
36:53
Speaker 3: Walk away and keep your thirty thousand chips.
36:56
Speaker 2: You would lose, you would be out of the tournament.
36:59
Speaker 2: There'd be no point to doing. Yeah, it's not actual money,
37:03
Speaker 2: it's just your chip stack, you know. So you're trying
37:06
Speaker 2: to survive as long as possible in this tournament. And
37:08
Speaker 2: the longer you survive, the more money you can make,
37:12
Speaker 2: you know. And so Coop made it today. Two he won,
37:16
Speaker 2: you know, just under fifteen hundred bucks. I think, okay,
37:19
Speaker 2: pretty good. So he bought in twice. He one just
37:23
Speaker 2: under a thousand bucks roughly for this tournament. Very nice,
37:26
Speaker 2: nice cash. I did not I let this guy see
37:30
Speaker 2: a river card and he hit two pair, so I
37:33
Speaker 2: was I wasn't aggressive enough. Lorena and Bree off after
37:36
Speaker 2: the turn.
37:36
Speaker 3: Don't you know that one chair be aggressive, b aggressive.
37:41
Speaker 2: You gotta gotta be more aggressive. You can't let these
37:44
Speaker 2: dirtbags see a fifth card that could do you in.
37:47
Speaker 2: That's what happened to me. But Lesson learned. I'll be
37:49
Speaker 2: back whenever.
37:50
Speaker 3: You do it again.
37:51
Speaker 2: Absolutely I would. It was fun. It was a lot
37:53
Speaker 2: of fun, and you learn real quickly. You learn very
37:57
Speaker 2: very fast. Okay, I've been yacking enough. Let me get
37:59
Speaker 2: to the molle sit here. Let's go to uh, Let's
38:03
Speaker 2: go to Mike the Leprechaun. I always been flying. What's
38:06
Speaker 2: going on? Mike? Cover things?
38:09
Speaker 9: I'm down the street. I'm in Ventura Boulevard right now.
38:14
Speaker 2: Is it beautiful? Is everything you wished it would be?
38:18
Speaker 2: Is it beautiful? Is it majestical that it is?
38:21
Speaker 7: It's very nice, It's actually all the people have been
38:24
Speaker 7: very friendly. But I'm tired because my flight was delayed twice,
38:28
Speaker 7: so I've been up twenty seven hours. So Ben is
38:32
Speaker 7: Ben going to be there tomorrow? And Bell?
38:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben's back tomorrow.
38:38
Speaker 7: Oh my god.
38:39
Speaker 9: I hope they like Boston tam Chotter. Do you like Boston,
38:42
Speaker 9: Sam Shutter, I've.
38:44
Speaker 2: Never had it. Big Ben might be in the market
38:47
Speaker 2: for that, Big Ben, you know.
38:48
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm a rambler, a gambler. I'm a long way
38:52
Speaker 9: from home. Lets you don't like me, just leave me alone.
38:56
Speaker 6: Clareena, don't see you.
38:58
Speaker 2: And it's nice.
39:02
Speaker 9: So it's sad to hear about your heart condition.
39:04
Speaker 7: That was that's a bad story.
39:06
Speaker 2: Oh thank you.
39:08
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's not bad that you had a heart condition,
39:10
Speaker 9: but it's bad the way they treated you the insurance.
39:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just the yeah, yeah, not a good situation.
39:17
Speaker 2: I'll get it ironed out. Mike. I appreciate that, buddy.
39:20
Speaker 6: Yeah. So Rogers Rogers is bonkers, Yeah he is.
39:26
Speaker 4: Yeah.
39:27
Speaker 7: Yeah.
39:28
Speaker 9: Team So anyway, I have a question for Brie.
39:31
Speaker 6: I sent her a message.
39:32
Speaker 9: I need to know the exact address and the sweet
39:35
Speaker 9: and I tend to be here at eleven o'clock tomorrow,
39:38
Speaker 9: so you could please respond to my request.
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Speaker 2: Very nice. Yeah, well good. I'm glad that you're in
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Speaker 2: SoCal Mike. Hope you enjoy it, buddy, appreciate you checking in,
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Speaker 2: all right. He was bringing gifts, I think bringing Boston
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Speaker 2: clam Childer clam chowder, saying it's chowder. You ever see
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Speaker 2: the episode episode of The Simpsons right there, shout there, yeah,
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Speaker 2: say it. It's YadA YadA. It was nice. Let make
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Speaker 2: a drop out of that, all right, coming up next,
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Speaker 2: This player in this organization should break up immediately. Details
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Speaker 2: on the way