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Mac & Bone Show - Sam Farber Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Let's bring in a man, and I feel like this
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  Speaker 1: is a good day for this man, not only because
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  Speaker 1: we've got a Hornets game to recap and some juicy storylines,
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  Speaker 1: but also, Bone, because I remember this man trying to
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  Speaker 1: tell me when the whole free world was picking the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: including us, to beat the Panthers, this man said the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers will win, and I'll be damned if they got
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  Speaker 1: it done. Sam Farber, voice of your Charlotte Hornets with
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  Speaker 1: us for his weekly visit. Sam, what's going on, brother?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: We're doing great. Road trip off to a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a rocky start there with the loss of Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what? Hornets above 500 will take it.
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  Speaker 2: And haven't even gotten the full roster on the floor
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  Speaker 2: just yet. So the best is yet to come.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, man.
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  Speaker 3: Sam, before we get into Brandon Miller's performance and all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff, we have to ask your thoughts on what
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  Speaker 3: transpired last night. Nas Reed does not play in the
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  Speaker 3: second half. Charles Lee explains it was not illness, it
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  Speaker 3: was not injury. He did not meet the standards of
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  Speaker 3: the team, and they hope that he will going forward.
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  Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on what transpired last night from
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  Speaker 3: what you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, in a certain sense, obviously they're there
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  Speaker 2: to see the game and have been around the team
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  Speaker 2: but have not heard specifically from Nas, have not heard
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  Speaker 2: further from Coach on what exactly it was. I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of layers to this. For one, I
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  Speaker 2: think Nas deserves a lot of credit. There are times
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  Speaker 2: that something like this will happen and the player will
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  Speaker 2: be seen in a certain way, acting a certain way
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  Speaker 2: on the bench, and that wasn't the case. Nas was engaged.
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  Speaker 2: He was talking to teammates. He was trying to pick
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  Speaker 2: up his team and do what he could to aid
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  Speaker 2: the team along. So I think he deserves a lot
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  Speaker 2: of credit for that. And look, this team has higher
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  Speaker 2: aspirations than just winning games 40 to 45 games and
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  Speaker 2: making the play in. And part of that is accountability and,
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  Speaker 2: and meeting the standard. And so, you know, I expect
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  Speaker 2: we will hear more about, you know, what, what exactly,
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  Speaker 2: or at least coach will be asked more about what
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  Speaker 2: exactly transpired. And, and now it's probably will as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think the team is going to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: rally around one another and take that next step and
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  Speaker 2: become an even better ball club. But, but obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it had an impact. not having him on the floor
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  Speaker 2: for the second half last night and a winnable game.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not about one game. It's about what you
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  Speaker 2: can do at the end of 82.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I got. Why am I going to fight
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  Speaker 1: with it? My hand is stuck in the microphone thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I keep pulling. I apologize to my partner here.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting, he's getting beat up in the paint by
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  Speaker 1: the microphone. I'm disheveled over here, Sammy. It's game day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little shook by what happened last night in Detroit. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: I heard that thing rattled twice.
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  Speaker 3: Like you threw a punch or something.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get it out. It was in there two times.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Sammy, let's continue the conversation about this. I
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  Speaker 1: do want to get to Brandon Miller because I think
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  Speaker 1: he is proving that he's got things in that bag that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe we didn't see when he had, you know,
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  Speaker 1: LaMelo with with him. But let's talk about the Nas
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  Speaker 1: Reed thing a little more. were you shocked by this?
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  Speaker 1: Because I was shocked. A, I never really thought Nas
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  Speaker 1: would be a guy that just, you know, that ever
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  Speaker 1: would be like, oh, you're below a team standard. So
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  Speaker 1: I was with his reputation. And then two, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: really think Charles Lee had this in him. The full benching,
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  Speaker 1: the calling him out with Shannon Spake and telling everybody
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  Speaker 1: he didn't meet the standard. That's why we we benched him.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he's a little, was it a little more
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  Speaker 1: subtle and maybe not like this much of a, of
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  Speaker 1: a hard ass for lack of a better term. How
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  Speaker 1: surprised were you by this development?
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's clearly a bit out of the blue.
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  Speaker 2: Cause I mean, just prior to the game and rightfully
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  Speaker 2: so Nas was being delivered praise by coaches and again,
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  Speaker 2: deservedly so for what he brings to the table, his
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  Speaker 2: experience and, And that level of accountability. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I can see how it is perhaps a bit confusing. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the world is scary and confusing and stressful
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  Speaker 2: and exhausting. And basketball is all of that, but in
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  Speaker 2: a good way. And so, you know, I think there
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  Speaker 2: are lessons to be taken away from, you know, what happened.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think at this point we know everything about it.
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  Speaker 2: There's just, you know, the initial item that we saw.
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  Speaker 2: There is the quote that we have from Coach. There
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  Speaker 2: aren't further details, and I don't know if we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get all of the details on this, but I
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  Speaker 2: do expect, given the character of Nas and the way
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  Speaker 2: that Coach has developed these relationships with his players, that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to see everyone go to a better, higher
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  Speaker 2: level moving forward.
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  Speaker 3: Sam, on a more positive note, Brandon Miller appears like
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  Speaker 3: You know, that star turn is happening for him right now.
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  Speaker 3: Was already approaching that, but the last few games, man,
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  Speaker 3: he has been everything you could want. What's your assessment
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  Speaker 3: of Brandon Miller's game? Not just the scoring, but the
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  Speaker 3: full game that's been on display here.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's a superstar. I think that's what we're
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  Speaker 2: seeing here. Three consecutive 30-point games. He's never done that
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  Speaker 2: in his career. He's the only player in the NBA
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  Speaker 2: so far this season to have accomplished that. And there
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  Speaker 2: are some very talented scorers across the NBA, as we
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  Speaker 2: all know. But on top of that is that the
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  Speaker 2: team is winning. And they're winning without having the full roster.
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  Speaker 2: I get three and two. You're one off night away
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  Speaker 2: from being below 500. But they're not. They're winning these games.
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  Speaker 2: One game was just a total stinker across the board,
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  Speaker 2: and even the loss last night, you can make the
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  Speaker 2: argument that Brandon, in terms of superstar power, was going
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  Speaker 2: far from full strength. Conor Knieppel's not out there yet.
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  Speaker 2: Kobe White's not out there yet. Grant Williams is not
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  Speaker 2: out there yet. Nas Reed didn't play in the second half,
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  Speaker 2: and still the team had a shot to win going
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  Speaker 2: down the stretch because Brandon Miller has been playing so well.
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  Speaker 2: So I look at him compared to the guy on
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  Speaker 2: the other side last night, Cade Cunningham, and And I
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  Speaker 2: don't see a reason why Brandon can't continue to elevate
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  Speaker 2: and reach that level, particularly when some of those high-level
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  Speaker 2: running mates who are just stars in their own right
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  Speaker 2: in an offensive and defensive way are there to assist
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  Speaker 2: him and take some of the pressure off of him.
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  Speaker 2: But right now, with the entire focus of a really
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  Speaker 2: good defensive Detroit team laser-focused on him, he was still
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  Speaker 2: able to go for 30 and still almost won the
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  Speaker 2: game on the road. So he has been extremely impressive here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. You said it. It's all NBA potential when
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  Speaker 1: you watch. I mean, you're seeing him become a professional
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  Speaker 1: scorer right in front of our eyes. And 12 rebounds
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  Speaker 1: last night. 12 boards last night was huge, too. Just
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  Speaker 1: get him the dang ball and get out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm with you, man. He'll become more efficient when
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  Speaker 1: we get Khan and Kobe there, and he won't have
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  Speaker 1: to maybe take the tough shots he's taken. But dang,
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  Speaker 1: if he is not making a bunch of tough get-to-your-spots,
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  Speaker 1: play-through-contact shots.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there'll be nights, Sam, there'll be nights when
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  Speaker 3: if Khan is red hot or Kobe wipes out a
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  Speaker 3: big night, there'll be nights when Brandon Miller might be the—
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  Speaker 3: the second option at certain nights, or, you know, that
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  Speaker 3: pushes Nas Reid down to.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth option on offense.
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  Speaker 3: That's a heck of a, that's a heck of a
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  Speaker 3: starting group there once they all get back.
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  Speaker 1: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: And like, you know, that's the issue, you know, talking
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  Speaker 2: to the Detroit folks, that's the thing, the problem that
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  Speaker 2: in some people around theirs opinions, they did not solve
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  Speaker 2: in the roster moves they made. Like John Collins is
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  Speaker 2: a good player and, But they were looking for a
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  Speaker 2: number two star, a second all-star who you can give
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  Speaker 2: the ball to. Not that Jalen Dern isn't an all-star,
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  Speaker 2: but you know what I mean. He's a different kind
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  Speaker 2: of player. He's more in the vein of a star rebounder,
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  Speaker 2: defensive presence, different kind of guy, very valuable, but different
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  Speaker 2: kind of player. Same thing with Asar Thompson, valuable player,
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  Speaker 2: not someone you can hand the ball to and say,
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  Speaker 2: get us a bucket. And so, you know, they, for
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  Speaker 2: all their success last year, were looking for someone like
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Miller. And in Brandon, they've got, the Hornets have
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  Speaker 2: a superstar, but they also have players like Tom Hennepel
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  Speaker 2: and Kobe White and Nas Reed, who you can say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: get us a bucket, because we know the defense is
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  Speaker 2: focused on Brandon right now, which means you've got a
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  Speaker 2: one-on-one matchup against a defender we'd like to attack.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, well said. No doubt about it. So coming up next,
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  Speaker 1: it's on the road. I think I called it a
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  Speaker 1: home game earlier. We already played Washington at home, Bonesy.
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  Speaker 2: On the road.
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  Speaker 3: Way back on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Against Washington. And then it's back home again for the
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  Speaker 1: big Halloween game against LeBron and the Sixers.
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  Speaker 3: How about that? Philadelphia, Detroit, Boston, Cleveland, the next home games.
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  Speaker 3: That's a heck of a... A good grouping there. A
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  Speaker 3: tough grouping, though. Yeah, they really need Friday night. If
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  Speaker 3: only there was a guy that could give us the
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  Speaker 3: number for tickets for those games.
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  Speaker 2: Sammy!
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting we have you here during this time, Sammy.
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  Speaker 2: I am here to serve. Yes, we don't want to
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  Speaker 2: squander this opportunity because the Hornets are playing good ball,
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  Speaker 2: and we've got some really entertaining games coming up. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Friday is a big one. Emirates NBA Cup opener for
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  Speaker 2: Charlotte at Washington. Hopefully everyone will tune in. It'll be
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  Speaker 2: on WSOC Channel 9, our beloved ABC affiliate back home
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  Speaker 2: in the Queen City. And then right back to work
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday for a Halloween special against LeBron James, Jalen Brown,
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  Speaker 2: Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey. And B.J. Edgecombe and the Philadelphia 76ers.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be night two of a back-to-back, but I believe
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  Speaker 2: it's part of a back-to-back as well for Philadelphia. So
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity there. And, you know, Halloween at the Hive,
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  Speaker 2: what could be better? So if you can resist trick-or-treating,
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  Speaker 2: just leave the bowl outside and come on out. Dress
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  Speaker 2: up if you'd like and join us for some Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: hoops and tickets are available at Hornets.com.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Let's take LeBron's candy on Saturday night, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, his age is probably Werther's.
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  Speaker 1: I need to know, though, Sam, I mentioned you in
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  Speaker 1: the intro. You were the one telling us, well, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to beat the Rams, y'all. Settle down. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of people don't believe they can beat the Packers after
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  Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Are you in the believer camp tonight, too?
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  Speaker 2: I am 100% in the believer camp. Look, everyone has
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  Speaker 2: an off night, okay? Bryce is having a brilliant season.
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  Speaker 2: He's having a brilliant season right now. He's becoming a
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  Speaker 2: superstar in his own right. I think defensively, we've seen
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  Speaker 2: the Panthers, unfortunately, have a couple of off nights. or
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  Speaker 2: off days, I should say over the course of the season,
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  Speaker 2: they tend not to have two in a row. So
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  Speaker 2: I think the Packers are a good team, but I
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  Speaker 2: think the Panthers are a really good team as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they're going to respond.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Sammy, baby, the sunshine. He thinks he's
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  Speaker 1: shining on the cats tonight. Sammy. Great job, brother. Keep
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: up the good work calling the games. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys as well. And look for what are
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  Speaker 2: you dressing up as Saturday at the hive? I want
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  Speaker 2: to know what's the costume.
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  Speaker 1: Are you dressing up, Boat?
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  Speaker 2: Huh?
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  Speaker 1: Are you dressing up? I don't have a costume. Are
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  Speaker 1: you dressing up, Sam?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you did.
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  Speaker 1: But you got that pirate costume. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's not out of the box yet because of the Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: Are you dressing up, Sam, to call the game?
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  Speaker 2: I got to know a few. I can't go solo here.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I dress up when I go.
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  Speaker 1: You and EC.
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  Speaker 2: Which I'm going to get to miss out on.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all need a deal, a play-by-play handshake on it that
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  Speaker 1: you will both dress up Saturday night. That's what we need.
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  Speaker 2: I love EC and Dell, but I'm a little nervous.
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  Speaker 2: They might say, hey, Sam, we're dressing up, and I
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  Speaker 2: could show up, you know, dressed up, and they're like.
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  Speaker 2: What's wrong with the radio guy here? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You should dress up as Lenny and Squiggy from Over
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  Speaker 3: and True. You and EC together? Oh, that'd be good.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be good. I could see Sam being a Squiggy.
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  Speaker 1: He was a small.
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  Speaker 2: One, right?
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't remember. Lenny was the tall one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you'd be a Squiggy, I feel like.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like. All right. Anyway, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 1: All right, Sam. Appreciate you, brother. Be good.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. Have a good one.