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- 0:07Speaker 1: The Large Nerdron Collider Podcast is a production of My
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- 0:23Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about pikiky things happening in the
- 0:26Speaker 1: world around us and how very excited we are about them.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I'm Ariel casting and with me, as always is Jonathan.
- 0:33Speaker 1: He's going to be pretty upset at me for moving
- 0:35Speaker 1: my pop filter right now, Strickland, I am not the
- 0:40Speaker 1: co host you are looking for. You should go about
- 0:44Speaker 1: your business. You are not. Move along. Okay, that was
- 0:48Speaker 1: a short episode, guys. I'm sorry, I'm just just just
- 0:51Speaker 1: just fooling. Hey, Ariel, I got a question for you, Okay, Ariel, So,
- 1:01Speaker 1: as always, it's more of a scenario than a question.
- 1:05Speaker 1: But we're gonna be talking about some stir Wars today,
- 1:09Speaker 1: some some wars in the stars, as it were. And
- 1:13Speaker 1: so my my question to you is that, so imagine
- 1:16Speaker 1: you are a a character, not a specific character, but
- 1:20Speaker 1: like you inhabit the mythology of Star Wars. Would you
- 1:25Speaker 1: be a Jedi, smuggler, bounty hunter, something else? What what
- 1:30Speaker 1: kind of rolled you envision yourself playing within Star Wars? So,
- 1:37Speaker 1: having played the Old Republic a whole bunch. Um, I
- 1:42Speaker 1: think I would probably be a smuggler. They are the
- 1:46Speaker 1: funnest they you know, they're the dashing rogues of Star Wars,
- 1:55Speaker 1: So that is what I would be. Bounty hunters. They're
- 1:58Speaker 1: either a little too evil for me or they're a
- 2:01Speaker 1: little too like if you look at Mando, he's he's
- 2:04Speaker 1: a bit too upstanding. Um, and Jedi's can be cool,
- 2:10Speaker 1: but that whole like living by a code thing. What
- 2:15Speaker 1: about you? Um? So I have a joke answer, which
- 2:21Speaker 1: is that i'd want to be I'd want to be
- 2:23Speaker 1: one of the band members at the Moss Eisley Cantina. Um.
- 2:29Speaker 1: I mean list that as an option, Jonathan I said,
- 2:32Speaker 1: or something else that includes It's just like with every
- 2:36Speaker 1: job description where it says other duties as a signed right,
- 2:40Speaker 1: it covers everything. Uh, but yeah, I thought about that.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Or maybe gambler like Lando Calrissian is more of a
- 2:47Speaker 1: gambler than a smuggler, which I think is kind of
- 2:50Speaker 1: a fun and I could be at least as good
- 2:53Speaker 1: or bad of a gambler as Lando Calrissian seems to be. Um,
- 2:57Speaker 1: you know, those are those are the kind of things
- 2:59Speaker 1: that I was thinking of. Is like, I agree with you,
- 3:01Speaker 1: Like Jedi was something I thought was super cool, But
- 3:04Speaker 1: the further we get into the mythology, the more restrictive
- 3:08Speaker 1: and sort of twisted the Jedi seem to be. Like
- 3:14Speaker 1: part of that is just because you have different people
- 3:16Speaker 1: bringing their interpretations into Star Wars, right, But we've had
- 3:21Speaker 1: a lot of stories that explore the restrictive nature of
- 3:25Speaker 1: the Jedi code and how that in many ways is
- 3:29Speaker 1: not a good thing and that it doesn't benefit people
- 3:33Speaker 1: very much. And so you then get like these crazy extremes.
- 3:37Speaker 1: You've got this very repressed, restrictive Jedi order and then
- 3:40Speaker 1: you have the uninhibited and self destructive Sithe and there
- 3:45Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be any middle ground. Um. I know
- 3:48Speaker 1: that some of the games have explored that, but like
- 3:51Speaker 1: in the Cannon of what is officially Star Wars, there's
- 3:55Speaker 1: not a whole lot that deals with that. So for
- 3:57Speaker 1: that case, I'm going Gambler, I think, because I think
- 4:02Speaker 1: it's it's sort of along the same lines as Smuggler.
- 4:05Speaker 1: It's that sort of rakish, rogue ish kind of character
- 4:08Speaker 1: that I find really appealing. Yeah, speaking of characters that
- 4:16Speaker 1: are kind of more rogueish, let's talk about our first
- 4:20Speaker 1: news item. Yeah, so the thing we wanted to chat
- 4:24Speaker 1: about is an upcoming animated series that's going to play
- 4:29Speaker 1: on Adult Swim and it is blade Runner. It's a
- 4:34Speaker 1: it's a new blade Runner uh anime series, blade Runner
- 4:39Speaker 1: Black Lotus. And we've learned a little bit about some
- 4:44Speaker 1: of the voice actors who are going to be portraying
- 4:47Speaker 1: characters in this. We don't know a whole lot about
- 4:50Speaker 1: the specifics of the plot, but we know that the
- 4:53Speaker 1: series is going to follow a character named l who
- 4:57Speaker 1: is a replicant, so that that history is cleared up
- 5:01Speaker 1: right away. We know she's yeah, we know she's not
- 5:03Speaker 1: gonna have to take the test and figure out whether
- 5:05Speaker 1: or not she'd help a turtle that was on its back. Um,
- 5:09Speaker 1: So L is play is a replicant who is created
- 5:13Speaker 1: for a secret and unknown purpose, played by Jessica Henwick.
- 5:18Speaker 1: We know that some interesting actors like Brian Cox is
- 5:23Speaker 1: going to be voicing a character he's I mean, when
- 5:26Speaker 1: you hear Brian Cox, you're like, oh, clearly he's going
- 5:28Speaker 1: to be one of those big business ee, you know,
- 5:32Speaker 1: vaguely antagonistic characters. Sure enough, that's who he's playing. A
- 5:35Speaker 1: Neander Wallace SR. So Blade Runner. Like if you're not
- 5:39Speaker 1: familiar with Blade Runner, the world a Blade Runner. It's
- 5:42Speaker 1: set in sort of a um it's an alternate future
- 5:45Speaker 1: because the original Blade Runner was set I think in
- 5:49Speaker 1: like it was. It's definitely in our past now, but
- 5:53Speaker 1: it was this very super corporate, uh, dystopian world not
- 6:00Speaker 1: that different from what we have now, except we don't
- 6:02Speaker 1: have flying cars and we don't have replicates, and you've
- 6:06Speaker 1: got these these replicants that are kind of like, um,
- 6:10Speaker 1: a mix between androids and a genetic creation that there
- 6:16Speaker 1: they purposefully live very short lifespans and they're meant to
- 6:19Speaker 1: do like manual dangerous labor, essentially the stuff that we
- 6:22Speaker 1: make robots to do. But they have thoughts and feelings
- 6:27Speaker 1: and often have implanted histories in their heads, uh in
- 6:32Speaker 1: the Blade Runner series, so that they don't realize the replicants,
- 6:36Speaker 1: so that might it kind of sounds a little bit
- 6:38Speaker 1: like Westworld if you've watched Westworld, it's a similar kind
- 6:42Speaker 1: of a theory, although in Westworld the replicants for the
- 6:47Speaker 1: hosts are more thought to be more contained. Um. But uh,
- 6:53Speaker 1: Stephen Rude is in it, and he's playing the chief
- 6:55Speaker 1: of Police and I know that he plays a bunch
- 6:57Speaker 1: of serious characters, but I always picture him from off
- 7:00Speaker 1: a space. And if he played the chief of police,
- 7:03Speaker 1: like like like Milton, the low mumbling character that I mean,
- 7:07Speaker 1: it would not fit at all, I'm sure in the story,
- 7:09Speaker 1: but it would be hilarious and I'd be all there
- 7:11Speaker 1: for it. Have you have you seen Buster Scrugs? The
- 7:15Speaker 1: Ballad of Buster Scrugs? Not yet. I watched like five
- 7:18Speaker 1: minutes of it, but I need to sit. And he's
- 7:21Speaker 1: in He's in one of the vignettes and that, and
- 7:23Speaker 1: it's another one of those I mean, it's a Cohen
- 7:25Speaker 1: Brothers film, right, so it's and he's been in some
- 7:28Speaker 1: Cohen brother stuff. It's it's another um, very quirky character
- 7:34Speaker 1: and like and he plays in that one. He's a
- 7:37Speaker 1: he's a bank teller essentially in the Old West. But
- 7:41Speaker 1: he does some guns slinging a little bit in that.
- 7:44Speaker 1: And so I immediately went to that character, which again
- 7:48Speaker 1: would have not fit into the Blade Runner universe at all,
- 7:51Speaker 1: but would be really entertaining. It would be really entertaining.
- 7:54Speaker 1: That being said, he's a very versatile actor. Yes, I
- 7:57Speaker 1: think that's why some of his more quirky characters stick
- 8:00Speaker 1: out to me is just because he is so versatile,
- 8:02Speaker 1: he's phenomenal. And Barry, he's absolutely amazing in that series.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Barry is such a fun show and it's great. It's
- 8:09Speaker 1: one of the best. Like, I didn't know I was
- 8:12Speaker 1: going to enjoy it so much until I started watching
- 8:15Speaker 1: it and I thought, Wow, this is a uh this
- 8:19Speaker 1: is a very dark but very funny show. Uh. And
- 8:23Speaker 1: it hits a little close to home at times for
- 8:25Speaker 1: me as an actor. Yeah, there's some actor stuff in
- 8:28Speaker 1: it that does it rings very true. But yes, this
- 8:32Speaker 1: series looks like it's going to be really interesting. There's
- 8:34Speaker 1: actually all the all the parts are are most of
- 8:37Speaker 1: the parts anyway, are double cast because they have a
- 8:40Speaker 1: Japanese cast as well. I think one of the characters
- 8:44Speaker 1: might be played by by a single actor who might
- 8:47Speaker 1: be fluent in both, but most of them are are
- 8:50Speaker 1: obviously played by two different actors who are providing either
- 8:55Speaker 1: the English or the Japanese language versions of that. And Yeah,
- 9:00Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to seeing it. We don't have
- 9:04Speaker 1: details on when it's coming out. It just says that
- 9:06Speaker 1: it's going to be airing on Adult Swim Swim and
- 9:09Speaker 1: also crunchy role later this year. Yeah, yeah, you know,
- 9:13Speaker 1: it's not often that adults swim has something that really
- 9:15Speaker 1: grabs me, but I think I will definitely take some
- 9:17Speaker 1: time to check this one out. Something else that I'm
- 9:20Speaker 1: going to take time to check out once we finally
- 9:22Speaker 1: get it, regardless of what the details are on. It
- 9:26Speaker 1: is the new series that Jamaine Clement and Tycho Edhiti
- 9:29Speaker 1: are working on, which we have little to know details
- 9:32Speaker 1: about other than it's going to be kind of action
- 9:34Speaker 1: adventury comedy, and I'm just I love what they do.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I love what we do in the Shadows, And I
- 9:41Speaker 1: guess we haven't gotten Wellington's Paranormal yet. I wanted to
- 9:45Speaker 1: watch that one as well. Yeah, so, so of course
- 9:48Speaker 1: what we do in the Shadows, in case you're not familiar,
- 9:50Speaker 1: is it's done in the documentary style but follows the
- 9:54Speaker 1: misadventures of vampires and sort of the the trials and
- 10:01Speaker 1: tribulations they go through having a vampiric existence, and it's
- 10:07Speaker 1: very silly. Uh, it's it's The movie is fantastic in
- 10:11Speaker 1: the series really really expands upon it in a very
- 10:15Speaker 1: fun way. So highly recommend those. But yeah, and of
- 10:18Speaker 1: course Tayko what TV. He's made a huge name for
- 10:21Speaker 1: himself directing films in the m C. You you know
- 10:24Speaker 1: he did He did Thor, Ragnarok. He's doing Love and
- 10:27Speaker 1: Thunder the next Thor movie. Yeah, and Jo Rabbit, which
- 10:31Speaker 1: was a phenomenal movie Jojo Rabbit, Yes, and a difficult
- 10:35Speaker 1: movie to sell to people when you tell them the premise,
- 10:39Speaker 1: but yes, it is is an amazing movie. And Jermaine Clement,
- 10:44Speaker 1: of course, obviously a brilliant comedian and musician as well
- 10:48Speaker 1: part of Flight of the Conchords, has done a huge
- 10:52Speaker 1: amount of work that a lot of it I think
- 10:56Speaker 1: is under seen. There's a lot of stuff he's done
- 10:58Speaker 1: that I don't think America and audiences have really seen. Well,
- 11:02Speaker 1: he was in Legion, and he was he was a
- 11:04Speaker 1: serious character in that bizarre but serious character because I
- 11:07Speaker 1: raised Bizarre and Legion, but just brilliant. I had only
- 11:10Speaker 1: seen his comedy up to that point. But yeah, he's
- 11:12Speaker 1: very multi talented. Yeah, it makes me sick, but we're
- 11:17Speaker 1: going to We're going to get some sort of action
- 11:20Speaker 1: adventure comedy. But as we say, there's not really any
- 11:24Speaker 1: more detail about that to me. When I hear action
- 11:26Speaker 1: adventure comedy. My thoughts go back to some earlier shows.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Like I was telling Ariel before the recording, it reminds
- 11:34Speaker 1: me I would describe Wizards and Warriors as it was
- 11:37Speaker 1: more of like a fantasy action comedy series. But it
- 11:40Speaker 1: was the sort of thing that kind of later evolved
- 11:44Speaker 1: into stuff like Hercules and Zena and The Adventures of
- 11:48Speaker 1: Briscoe County Jr. And like these shows that did seem
- 11:52Speaker 1: to try and pair comedy with action. Uh two different degrees, right.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Some of those series were less comedic than others, but
- 12:03Speaker 1: they all had elements of comedy, sometimes like Zaney, like
- 12:07Speaker 1: corny comedy, and and some of them were not intending
- 12:11Speaker 1: to be quite as comedic as they were. I mean,
- 12:13Speaker 1: look at Karl Urban playing Cupid in Xena, Like they
- 12:17Speaker 1: probably probably didn't mean for it to be quite as
- 12:20Speaker 1: humorous as it was, especially now. But it's interesting because
- 12:23Speaker 1: I feel like this is a niche that really hasn't
- 12:26Speaker 1: been filled, Like there there are series out there. First
- 12:30Speaker 1: of all, I don't think there's that many action adventure
- 12:32Speaker 1: series out there. Everything's like procedurals and stuff, right, you
- 12:36Speaker 1: don't get a lot of action adventure stuff anymore at
- 12:38Speaker 1: least not in TV, so that that I'm really excited
- 12:43Speaker 1: to see, Like I wanna kind of find out what
- 12:46Speaker 1: their vision is for that sort of thing. I'm sure
- 12:49Speaker 1: it's gonna be hilarious whatever it is, so I am
- 12:52Speaker 1: I am eagerly anticipating that, even though we have next
- 12:56Speaker 1: to no information about it. Yeah, yeah, equally hilarious. The
- 13:00Speaker 1: new Aliens television show Alien Television. Yeah, Alien, It's it's ah.
- 13:05Speaker 1: So it follows Alien, a xenomorph who's in New York
- 13:10Speaker 1: City as a stand up comedian. He has a wacky
- 13:12Speaker 1: neighbor named Kramer, and uh, there's a lane and no,
- 13:17Speaker 1: now this is this is a series that Noah Holly
- 13:19Speaker 1: has been working on for u f X, and it's
- 13:25Speaker 1: going to take place on Earth. So a very different
- 13:29Speaker 1: approach to what we've see in the Alien films, which
- 13:32Speaker 1: are almost always taking place in like a spaceship or
- 13:35Speaker 1: a deserted lunar lunar colony, that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah,
- 13:43Speaker 1: you know, Fargo and Legion are both a little bit
- 13:46Speaker 1: surreal um and if they can lean a bit more
- 13:49Speaker 1: on that surreal nous in this television show as opposed
- 13:52Speaker 1: to the last Alien movie, I think I've talked about
- 13:55Speaker 1: this plenty of times before on this podcast. Just the
- 13:59Speaker 1: the further into the Alien franchise we get, the more gruesome.
- 14:03Speaker 1: It gets to the point where I couldn't even watch
- 14:04Speaker 1: the most recent movie. Um, but hopefully this TV show
- 14:09Speaker 1: will pull back a little bit on the gruesome. Uh,
- 14:14Speaker 1: because they're really focusing on it seems like Wayland Utani,
- 14:18Speaker 1: who is the evil corporation that's trying to weaponize the xenomorphs? Yes,
- 14:22Speaker 1: and this is the company that first of all, was
- 14:25Speaker 1: in charge of sending the Nostromo out in the first place,
- 14:28Speaker 1: and then in Aliens, that really turns into like the
- 14:31Speaker 1: evil company, right because it becomes clear that that's when
- 14:36Speaker 1: they are really actively trying to go after the alien
- 14:41Speaker 1: without actually revealing to the rest of the human population
- 14:45Speaker 1: that there are these xenomorphs. Like the idea being like,
- 14:48Speaker 1: there's this incredibly dangerous thing. We want it, but we
- 14:52Speaker 1: don't want anyone to know that we know about it,
- 14:54Speaker 1: So we're just gonna send people out there and hope
- 14:57Speaker 1: for the best, and then when they die, well and
- 15:00Speaker 1: more of them. Yeah. Yeah, Um, So I don't think
- 15:06Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this as much as I Am
- 15:09Speaker 1: to the next Tycho and TD Chermain Clement show. Yeah.
- 15:14Speaker 1: What I thought was interesting is that we you know,
- 15:16Speaker 1: we talked about Blade Runner and then we're talking about
- 15:18Speaker 1: Alien Obviously, both of those, both of those, uh, those
- 15:22Speaker 1: those franchises or whatever have as part of the story
- 15:26Speaker 1: the giant corporations that are uh a moral right. They're
- 15:33Speaker 1: not they're not necessarily evil, but they're a moral so
- 15:37Speaker 1: they don't have any consideration for ethics or morality. And
- 15:41Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pretty common theme and a lot
- 15:43Speaker 1: of science fiction, but I just feel like, wow, it's
- 15:47Speaker 1: interesting that this keeps coming up. It's also in the
- 15:49Speaker 1: same climate, obviously as one where more and more people
- 15:53Speaker 1: are questioning, um, the why we have billionaires and why
- 16:00Speaker 1: we allow them allow them to continue to accumulate the
- 16:02Speaker 1: enormous amounts of wealth. It kind of I think it
- 16:06Speaker 1: shows the certain types of concerns that rise to the top.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Right that's when we start to see it reflected in
- 16:13Speaker 1: science fiction. And it just feels like that's part of
- 16:16Speaker 1: the we're coming back into that kind of cycle. Yeah, Yeah,
- 16:21Speaker 1: and I look forward to that because that'll be a
- 16:22Speaker 1: nice um balance with just straight up monster show, monster
- 16:28Speaker 1: scary Monster Show. Um, I like alien I like Aliens.
- 16:31Speaker 1: I will definitely give this shot. Um, we'll see how
- 16:35Speaker 1: far we get into it. Yeah, and then for our
- 16:38Speaker 1: last couple of stories, we're gonna turn over to the
- 16:41Speaker 1: Star Wars. As we were talking about before, we got
- 16:45Speaker 1: to see a a kind of teaser for the Star
- 16:49Speaker 1: Wars anime series that's coming out, where this was a
- 16:53Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal thing where Disney essentially has partnered with all
- 16:58Speaker 1: these different anime students and from what I understand, gave
- 17:03Speaker 1: these studios like Carte Blanche to do whatever they want
- 17:07Speaker 1: with the Star Wars you know, mythology and to and
- 17:11Speaker 1: to kind of realize it in their own styles. So
- 17:14Speaker 1: we're getting like true enemy renditions of Star Wars iconography
- 17:21Speaker 1: and ideas. And it's not gonna be cannon. It's not
- 17:24Speaker 1: like it's going to be incorporated into the Star Wars cannon.
- 17:27Speaker 1: But at the same time, it sounds to me like
- 17:29Speaker 1: there were very few restrictions placed, which is phenomenal when
- 17:32Speaker 1: you're talking about something with I P as famous as
- 17:36Speaker 1: Star Wars. Yeah. I think it's such a smart decision too, because,
- 17:41Speaker 1: like everybody knows about, you know, the main Star Wars
- 17:45Speaker 1: movies the main six to nine, three to nine, depending
- 17:51Speaker 1: on depending on hell grout to you are, depending on
- 17:54Speaker 1: how grad you are, Jonathan, But sometimes I just go
- 17:57Speaker 1: in two and a half. But okay, two and a half, fine,
- 18:02Speaker 1: I'll I'll accept that. But there's such a like a
- 18:06Speaker 1: rich world in the comics, in the book series around
- 18:09Speaker 1: Star Wars that I think it's really smart too explore
- 18:13Speaker 1: some of that, give some of those characters and ideas
- 18:16Speaker 1: and civilizations and and such some more thought in, some
- 18:20Speaker 1: some more spotlighting. Because even though this isn't necessarily going
- 18:24Speaker 1: to be canon, let's say, Tattooing Rhapsody really takes off
- 18:28Speaker 1: and everybody loves it, there's nothing saying they can't expand
- 18:31Speaker 1: on that as one of their future stories now that
- 18:34Speaker 1: we're done with the Skywalkers hopefully um well. And and
- 18:39Speaker 1: and also it's interesting because it's again I'm talking a
- 18:42Speaker 1: lot about cycles in this episode, but this comes full
- 18:45Speaker 1: circle in that Star Wars is a series that was
- 18:50Speaker 1: in part inspired by the work of Kura Sawa, for example,
- 18:56Speaker 1: And so now we're seeing this this science fiction antsy
- 19:00Speaker 1: series that has as part of its genetic heritage this
- 19:05Speaker 1: cinematic history from Japan and now we're seeing a modern
- 19:11Speaker 1: Japanese take on the Star Wars mythology. So it's not
- 19:16Speaker 1: like it's out of place like it. It feels like
- 19:18Speaker 1: it's coming home in a way. Yeah, yeah, I will say.
- 19:22Speaker 1: The interesting thing to me, like the most interesting thing
- 19:24Speaker 1: is when they initially announced visions, I was expecting something
- 19:28Speaker 1: like Memories or The Animatrix that had super diverse art styles,
- 19:34Speaker 1: which is not necessarily a good or a bad thing.
- 19:37Speaker 1: That's just what I was picturing. It looks like a
- 19:38Speaker 1: lot of these are a lot more um mainstream anime styles.
- 19:42Speaker 1: It doesn't make me any less excited for it. A
- 19:44Speaker 1: couple of them do look a little more stylized or
- 19:47Speaker 1: a little more cartoony than others. But yeah, I see
- 19:49Speaker 1: what you're saying. Yeah, But like I said, that's not
- 19:52Speaker 1: like a negative or a positive. It's just it's something
- 19:54Speaker 1: interesting that they announced this thing and my brain immediately
- 19:57Speaker 1: went to this like super art how style of anthology,
- 20:03Speaker 1: and instead it's it's um, you know, a little bit
- 20:07Speaker 1: more mainstream, which I think is good to bring people
- 20:09Speaker 1: into it who maybe wouldn't normally watch anime or a
- 20:12Speaker 1: Star Wars cartoon. One of the other properties that's already
- 20:15Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, so this will be coming to Disney
- 20:17Speaker 1: Plus later and I look forward to seeing it. And
- 20:21Speaker 1: then our last story is what if what if you were,
- 20:25Speaker 1: you know, a famous director and you really wanted to
- 20:27Speaker 1: make a Star Wars movie and they told you know,
- 20:30Speaker 1: so you decided to go and make a not Star
- 20:33Speaker 1: Wars movie that's kind of a Star Wars movie, but
- 20:35Speaker 1: it's not a Star Wars movie. Um. And also was
- 20:40Speaker 1: again kind of inspired by Kura Sawa. Well, then that
- 20:43Speaker 1: would mean you are Zack Snyder. Yes, So apparently years
- 20:47Speaker 1: ago he made a mature he wrote a mature Star
- 20:50Speaker 1: Wars movie and Lucasfilmson thank you, um or something to
- 20:55Speaker 1: that effect. I'm paraphrasing. And now he's making a movie
- 20:59Speaker 1: in inspired by Star Wars and Cure Car Sawa for Netflix,
- 21:05Speaker 1: which you know, Netflix is really good banking on popular properties,
- 21:09Speaker 1: so not you know, it's not a bad thing. Some
- 21:12Speaker 1: people really like that and they've come out with some
- 21:15Speaker 1: very good stuff because of that. But yeah, so he's
- 21:19Speaker 1: going to be making a movie for them that is
- 21:22Speaker 1: called Rebel Moon. Yes. Can I can read that little
- 21:25Speaker 1: quick description that was in the A V Club article?
- 21:28Speaker 1: You certainly can this is this is a short one
- 21:31Speaker 1: and by the way, that a VY We'll we'll have
- 21:33Speaker 1: a link to the article in our show notes, but
- 21:35Speaker 1: that a V Club article, a little bit salty. Oh
- 21:38Speaker 1: I love it, I love it so much. But here's
- 21:40Speaker 1: the little description because it made me immediately think of
- 21:43Speaker 1: a different movie besides Star Wars, which is the story
- 21:46Speaker 1: is set in motion when a peaceful colony on the
- 21:48Speaker 1: edge of the galaxy is threatened by the armies of
- 21:50Speaker 1: a tyrannical region named ballast Sarious totally not Balpatine. Desperate
- 21:57Speaker 1: people dispatch a young woman with a mysterious past to
- 22:00Speaker 1: seek out warriors from neighboring planets to help them make
- 22:03Speaker 1: a stand arial. Does this remind you of any other,
- 22:06Speaker 1: like really super cheesy nties era science fiction film that
- 22:11Speaker 1: we actually covered in a video episode of large Enner
- 22:14Speaker 1: Treadclator years ago. You mean the bat Will Beyond the Star? Exactly?
- 22:18Speaker 1: It is Battle Beyond This is Battle Beyond the Stars.
- 22:21Speaker 1: If this if this Rebel Moon movie, which I get
- 22:24Speaker 1: is supposed to be like a grim, mature take on
- 22:28Speaker 1: on the sort of stuff you would have seen in
- 22:30Speaker 1: Star Wars, But it's totally not Star Wars. Don't think
- 22:32Speaker 1: it's Star Wars. Call it's not Star Wars. But if
- 22:35Speaker 1: there are not, if they're not like twins that are
- 22:40Speaker 1: eating hot dogs and like and like in a space
- 22:43Speaker 1: cowboy and a valkyrie wearing almost no costume whatsoever, I
- 22:48Speaker 1: am going to be really disappointed in this movie. You know.
- 22:54Speaker 1: I am interested to see what blaster bolts and lightsabers
- 22:58Speaker 1: look like in gray scale. Uh. Two shots fired at
- 23:04Speaker 1: Zack Snyder's palette choice. Okay, I'm just you know, I'm
- 23:08Speaker 1: like a stormtrooper I always miss So it's fine. But
- 23:12Speaker 1: it's being written. He's co writing it with Shayhattan, who
- 23:16Speaker 1: did Army the Dead, and Kurt Johnson, who did Three
- 23:18Speaker 1: hundred Um, which were some of the things that I
- 23:21Speaker 1: liked better from him. Okay, fair enough. Zack Snyder is
- 23:25Speaker 1: all about the visuals, and I feel like space and
- 23:28Speaker 1: sci fi is a great place to put in pretty visuals.
- 23:33Speaker 1: So maybe it'll be awesome. I'm sure it's gonna look great.
- 23:36Speaker 1: I also feel like there will be absolutely no humanity
- 23:38Speaker 1: in it. But I feel like that because Zack Snyder
- 23:41Speaker 1: has time and time again created like I I have.
- 23:46Speaker 1: I have often mentioned that I feel like Zack snyder
- 23:48Speaker 1: movies feel more like a kid playing with action figures
- 23:51Speaker 1: and smashing them together than it does actual characters with
- 23:56Speaker 1: like feelings and stuff. He's Zack Snyder doesn't typically do feelings.
- 24:02Speaker 1: He does like iconic characters that again, uh, smash each
- 24:08Speaker 1: other as hard as they possibly can, for as long
- 24:10Speaker 1: as they possibly can. I mean, he does some feelings,
- 24:15Speaker 1: but they're usually very everybody's faulty. Yeah, well, like like
- 24:20Speaker 1: you know, I could just say two words and just
- 24:22Speaker 1: set you off. I could just say sucker punch and
- 24:25Speaker 1: we could just see you go. But there are feelings
- 24:29Speaker 1: in that Mine just didn't match up with the movie.
- 24:36Speaker 1: I don't want to Panzack Snyder too hard. They're like,
- 24:38Speaker 1: there are some things I think are very cool about
- 24:40Speaker 1: his directing and art style. I just I definitely I
- 24:44Speaker 1: feel like like Zack Snyder falls into a category, not
- 24:48Speaker 1: that their styles are similar, but he falls into a
- 24:50Speaker 1: category that reminds me of people like Michael Bay. And
- 24:53Speaker 1: these are directors who can create really captivating visuals and
- 25:00Speaker 1: really interesting action sequences, but I feel like everything around
- 25:05Speaker 1: it doesn't it doesn't work for me, or it just
- 25:09Speaker 1: doesn't hold very much humanity. Or like there's nothing for
- 25:14Speaker 1: me to connect to emotionally, So there's at least it's
- 25:17Speaker 1: a side of humanity that's not as pleasant to connect to. Yeah,
- 25:21Speaker 1: that's probab, It's probably a good way of putting it.
- 25:23Speaker 1: So anyway, while I'm slagging off on Zack Snyder, I'm
- 25:27Speaker 1: not nearly doing it to the level that the A V.
- 25:29Speaker 1: Club did. And uh and and to be fair, like,
- 25:33Speaker 1: maybe this will come out and I will completely eat
- 25:36Speaker 1: my words and I'll say like, Wow, this was just
- 25:38Speaker 1: a truly phenomenal piece of science fiction. So I don't
- 25:43Speaker 1: want to pass judgment on something before it comes out.
- 25:45Speaker 1: That's totally not fair. And you know, you can't judge
- 25:48Speaker 1: everything based upon the stuff that came before it. You
- 25:52Speaker 1: could always be surprised. Yeah, well, how about we uh
- 25:57Speaker 1: look at some stuff that has come out in the
- 25:59Speaker 1: past that we both really do like Right after this break,
- 26:15Speaker 1: We're going to start off this discussion with you know,
- 26:18Speaker 1: a little bit of sad news first, which is that
- 26:21Speaker 1: over the last week since our last episode, famed movie
- 26:25Speaker 1: director Richard Donner passed away. Uh. He had lived a
- 26:30Speaker 1: very full and long life. He was ninety one when
- 26:33Speaker 1: he passed away. He had not directed a film since
- 26:37Speaker 1: two thousand and six, so it had been a while
- 26:40Speaker 1: since he had actually directed a movie. But he he
- 26:43Speaker 1: was involved in a lot of of works in films
- 26:46Speaker 1: and stuff over the years, and also series, some of
- 26:50Speaker 1: which he would be removed from. But yes, yeah, we
- 26:55Speaker 1: wanted to chat a bit about some of his working
- 26:57Speaker 1: and the impact that it's had on us. Well. Well,
- 27:01Speaker 1: first I want to say that one of his works
- 27:04Speaker 1: is Lethal Weapon. And the only reason I'm saying that
- 27:06Speaker 1: is because you said he hadn't directed anything in years.
- 27:08Speaker 1: He had plans to come back to the Lethal Weapon
- 27:10Speaker 1: franchise last year and then pandemic Um, so he was
- 27:17Speaker 1: actually gonna jump back in recently. I said, he didn't.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I really like the Lethal Weapon franchise. But when when
- 27:24Speaker 1: you look at some of the movies that that he directed,
- 27:27Speaker 1: it's interesting because they have they span a lot of
- 27:29Speaker 1: different genres, right, So, like one of my favorite films
- 27:34Speaker 1: came out in the Superman movie with you know, Christopher
- 27:39Speaker 1: Reeve in it and and Richard Daughter directed that. He
- 27:43Speaker 1: also directed or he started to direct Superman too, and
- 27:48Speaker 1: then there was a whole studio issue that he got
- 27:51Speaker 1: removed from that film. But he did Superman, and Superman
- 27:55Speaker 1: is such an earnest and corny movie. Like if you
- 27:58Speaker 1: go and watch that original Superman film, well I say
- 28:01Speaker 1: original that Superman film, it is cornball. It is incredibly sincere.
- 28:11Speaker 1: But to me, that's what makes it work. Like Superman
- 28:13Speaker 1: is a difficult character to make interesting because he he's
- 28:18Speaker 1: kind of flawless. It's sort of like Captain America. It's
- 28:22Speaker 1: a character who's who doesn't really have any flaws, so
- 28:24Speaker 1: it makes it hard to make an interesting film about them.
- 28:26Speaker 1: But when you go with that sort of corny and
- 28:31Speaker 1: earnest approach, it just becomes very charming. And Reeves was
- 28:36Speaker 1: amazing as the as as Superman. You had Gene Hackman
- 28:41Speaker 1: as Lex Luthor. You know, it was an engaging movie,
- 28:45Speaker 1: and of course you had the John Williams score, which
- 28:47Speaker 1: really brought it all together. That to me is one
- 28:50Speaker 1: of those iconic films that they inspired within me a
- 28:54Speaker 1: love of genre, uh, storytelling and films. I mean it is.
- 29:00Speaker 1: It's one of the first superhero movies I remember ever watching,
- 29:04Speaker 1: and you're right, it was very earnest and sincere, and
- 29:07Speaker 1: it balanced the humor with the super with the romance,
- 29:10Speaker 1: so very well that as a child, I loved it,
- 29:13Speaker 1: and then going back and watching it as an adult.
- 29:14Speaker 1: Even though it is a little cornball, as you said,
- 29:16Speaker 1: and even though some of the effects don't necessarily stand up,
- 29:20Speaker 1: it just it holds up for me. It has one
- 29:23Speaker 1: of the it is so touching. It has one of
- 29:25Speaker 1: the best visual gags of a Superman movie ever, where
- 29:29Speaker 1: Clark Kent needs to change into Superman and the famous
- 29:33Speaker 1: images Clark Kent jumping into a phone booth and changing
- 29:37Speaker 1: from Clark Kent to Superman and then coming out of
- 29:39Speaker 1: the phone booth of Superman. But he comes by a
- 29:43Speaker 1: not a phone booth, but so back in the day,
- 29:45Speaker 1: we used to have these public telephones that were on
- 29:47Speaker 1: like stands that were in like a had a little
- 29:50Speaker 1: dividers up, but it wasn't a full booth, right, And
- 29:52Speaker 1: he just stops and gives it a quick like double
- 29:55Speaker 1: take as he looks it up and down and realized like, no,
- 29:59Speaker 1: that's not gonna work, and then moves on to find
- 30:01Speaker 1: a place where you can change. It's just such a
- 30:03Speaker 1: it's it. I mean, obviously I'm describing a visual gag,
- 30:06Speaker 1: which is the dumbest thing you can do. It's like
- 30:08Speaker 1: reading out the comic strip. But it's one of those
- 30:10Speaker 1: moments that just works. Uh. He also directed one of
- 30:16Speaker 1: the few fantasy films from the nineteen eighties I thought
- 30:20Speaker 1: really worked, which is Lady Oh. Okay. I was thinking
- 30:25Speaker 1: you're going to talk about like Goonies or Scrooged. Well,
- 30:29Speaker 1: Lady Hawk was a lot of fun. Yeah. I don't
- 30:30Speaker 1: think of Goonies or Scrooged as a fan as I
- 30:33Speaker 1: either of those as fantasy movies. Lady Hawk was definitely
- 30:36Speaker 1: fancy film. Matthew Broderick, Rutger Howard, Michelle Peiffer um really
- 30:43Speaker 1: an interesting fantasy movie that I saw in the theater
- 30:47Speaker 1: when I was a kid, Like I went to that
- 30:50Speaker 1: movie when it opened up, and I think it still
- 30:54Speaker 1: holds up. It's still it's a really interesting fantasy love story.
- 30:59Speaker 1: And even though Matthew Roderick hasn't has one of those
- 31:03Speaker 1: accents that kind of sort of hovers around English and
- 31:06Speaker 1: then goes away. Even because even though there's that, it's
- 31:11Speaker 1: still it's really an engaging movie. Yeah. Well, I mean, plus,
- 31:15Speaker 1: you have a love for anything like medieval Renaissance stories
- 31:20Speaker 1: and Rutger Howard Man he's just amazing and you know,
- 31:24Speaker 1: here was Rugger Howard playing a heroic character. He's he's
- 31:28Speaker 1: a heroic character with an edge because he's he's damaged.
- 31:32Speaker 1: He's an emotionally damaged character. But this was sort of
- 31:37Speaker 1: like if you look at him in Blade Runner, where
- 31:40Speaker 1: he's a damaged character who's an antagonist. Here he was
- 31:44Speaker 1: a damaged character who's a protagonist. It's almost like two
- 31:47Speaker 1: sides of the same coin. And and it's a great performance.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Do you do you want me to make you really sad? John? Okay? So,
- 31:57Speaker 1: Rugger Howard, even though I've seen Blade Round and I
- 32:00Speaker 1: think I saw it before. What I'm about to mention
- 32:02Speaker 1: the first thing I remember knowing him from and recognizing
- 32:07Speaker 1: him and going, oh who is that? Oh his name
- 32:10Speaker 1: is Ryger Howard was ten Kingdom the two thousand's really
- 32:16Speaker 1: long mini series. Yeah, and and uh O'Neil is that
- 32:23Speaker 1: his name? Oh yeah, yeah he where he played the
- 32:27Speaker 1: troll I think yeah, he played the lead troll daddy.
- 32:33Speaker 1: It just sounds wrong to say, why did you say
- 32:35Speaker 1: it that way? We're gonna clip that that's gonna be
- 32:40Speaker 1: troll daddy, troll daddy. Uh so like which I actually
- 32:45Speaker 1: really enjoyed that mini series. But that's that's the first
- 32:47Speaker 1: thing I remember recognizing Rudger Howard so well. Yeah, Lady
- 32:52Speaker 1: Hawk is one of those those films that if you
- 32:55Speaker 1: have never seen it, uh, you should check it out.
- 32:58Speaker 1: It is no granted, it's from the eighties. The effects
- 33:02Speaker 1: are very dated, the music is bizarre like, it's very
- 33:06Speaker 1: new age with lots of synthesizers, um the like it.
- 33:13Speaker 1: It definitely is a product of its time. But it
- 33:17Speaker 1: again was one of those fantasy films from the eighties
- 33:21Speaker 1: that I thought actually worked. There were only a handful
- 33:23Speaker 1: of fantasy movies that came across as anything more than
- 33:27Speaker 1: just like super cheap sets and like like most of
- 33:31Speaker 1: the eighties fantasy films were like b movies, this was
- 33:34Speaker 1: not uh. He also did the Goonies, Like you pointed
- 33:37Speaker 1: out a movie that's very divisive. Now, yes, yes, it's
- 33:44Speaker 1: it's you either watched it as a kid and loved
- 33:45Speaker 1: it or you can't. You don't know, Um did you
- 33:49Speaker 1: hear about? What? Did you hear about? What he and
- 33:51Speaker 1: his wife did for the The actor who played Chunk,
- 33:56Speaker 1: I didn't know so um so Chunk was the be
- 34:00Speaker 1: kid right in in the Goonies who was made to
- 34:02Speaker 1: do the truffle shuffle and all that kind of stuff. So, uh,
- 34:07Speaker 1: when when he was getting older, like he wasn't able
- 34:10Speaker 1: to get more roles really after a little while, and
- 34:14Speaker 1: and so he was deciding he was going to go
- 34:16Speaker 1: and go to college. And he asked Richard Donner if
- 34:20Speaker 1: Richard would be willing to write a letter of recommendation
- 34:24Speaker 1: when he was applying to school, and uh, Donna said, yeah, kid,
- 34:29Speaker 1: let's have a meeting and we'll talk about what you
- 34:30Speaker 1: want me to say. And they had a meeting and
- 34:33Speaker 1: the actor told Donna all about his background and the
- 34:38Speaker 1: struggles he had and all this kind of stuff. Donna
- 34:41Speaker 1: and his wife paid for his tuition for him to
- 34:45Speaker 1: go to college. He ended up becoming an entertainment lawyer.
- 34:48Speaker 1: Oh that's fantastic. Yeah, yeah, that was a really sweet story.
- 34:53Speaker 1: It is and you know, like I know that there
- 34:54Speaker 1: are some problematic things and Goonies it like, you know,
- 34:58Speaker 1: Chunk kind of being pigeonholed. Yeah, well yeah, yeah, well
- 35:02Speaker 1: and there's no yeah, there's name is not Chunk. There's
- 35:07Speaker 1: tons of um, there's tons of problematic stuff in Gooon.
- 35:10Speaker 1: He's like, you have a the data character is that's
- 35:15Speaker 1: an issue, right, Like there's a again, it was a
- 35:18Speaker 1: product of its time, not to excuse it, but rather
- 35:21Speaker 1: to say, like to give it, contextualize it, to say
- 35:24Speaker 1: like this was an era where that level of care
- 35:28Speaker 1: and thought and empathy just did not exist in Hollywood
- 35:32Speaker 1: and that that was a bad thing. So that's something
- 35:36Speaker 1: to keep in mine, you know. But he went from
- 35:39Speaker 1: Superman and Goonies to lethal Weapon as I mentioned earlier,
- 35:43Speaker 1: and scrooged. But he also did some some horror which
- 35:47Speaker 1: I didn't know, so I wasn't aware that he worked
- 35:50Speaker 1: on Tales from the Crypt, which gave me nightmares as
- 35:52Speaker 1: a child. And I have never seen the Omens. So yeah,
- 35:56Speaker 1: the Omen that's one of those, um, you know, creepy movies. Uh, definitely,
- 36:04Speaker 1: definitely one of those that is worth checking out. He
- 36:07Speaker 1: was going to be a producer on a sequel to
- 36:11Speaker 1: The Goonies, which I have no idea that is even
- 36:14Speaker 1: still a thing that's going to happen. Um. He also,
- 36:19Speaker 1: you know, has worked in some regard with lots of
- 36:23Speaker 1: other elements that people would recognize. Um, And like it's
- 36:30Speaker 1: it's it's it's he lived to be ninety one, so
- 36:35Speaker 1: it's not that his his departure was a shock or
- 36:39Speaker 1: anything along those lines, but more that it really allowed
- 36:43Speaker 1: us a chance to reflect on his body of work
- 36:46Speaker 1: and kind of appreciate sort of the things that he did. Yeah,
- 36:51Speaker 1: because he was so varied in the stories that he
- 36:54Speaker 1: put out, in the styles that he put out, um
- 36:58Speaker 1: and and just he made worries that, regardless of whether
- 37:03Speaker 1: they're for their error or their time, they last. Like
- 37:05Speaker 1: people still know about the Goonies, people still know about
- 37:08Speaker 1: Lethal Weapon, people still know about Scrooged and Superman. So
- 37:12Speaker 1: you know, there are certain movies that just get made
- 37:14Speaker 1: and they're they're impressive for a while and then people
- 37:17Speaker 1: forget about them. But his his works have endured, and
- 37:20Speaker 1: that's really impressive. And uh, you know, are we salute
- 37:25Speaker 1: you Richard Donner, you know, godspeed, fair Winds and following
- 37:29Speaker 1: season all that, and thank you for the work you did,
- 37:33Speaker 1: because there's some really cool stuff. I mean, if nothing else,
- 37:37Speaker 1: if nothing else, we got Cindy Lauper's The Goonies Are
- 37:42Speaker 1: Good Enough music video, which is truly brilliant. I mean,
- 37:46Speaker 1: you know, you bring in bringing professional wrestlers to pretend
- 37:50Speaker 1: like their actors and Chase Cindy Lauper around, you're guaranteed
- 37:54Speaker 1: to have a masterpiece. I feel like you're biased there,
- 37:58Speaker 1: I might be. I also I also genuinely love that song.
- 38:02Speaker 1: I mean, it is a fun song. But if you
- 38:04Speaker 1: put like I could put, I could put professional wrestlers
- 38:07Speaker 1: into Sucker Punch, you'd probably like it. So, okay, let's
- 38:12Speaker 1: let's not throw, let's not throw through through hands here. Okay,
- 38:15Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna take a break. When we come back,
- 38:18Speaker 1: we're going to mash up do things that never ever
- 38:21Speaker 1: ever should be mashed up together and find out what happens.
- 38:41Speaker 1: So things that should never ever be mashed up together,
- 38:44Speaker 1: but we do. That has been our theme for the
- 38:46Speaker 1: past few weeks, hasn't it. Yeah, well, I mean, to
- 38:49Speaker 1: be fair, like, mash ups are a lot more fun
- 38:51Speaker 1: if you take two things that are very much unrelated
- 38:55Speaker 1: and try to make them work, as opposed to, oh,
- 38:59Speaker 1: let's take these two things that are similar and make them,
- 39:02Speaker 1: you know, mash them up together. Well, I mean they're
- 39:05Speaker 1: similar than you just end up with Zack Snyder's version
- 39:07Speaker 1: of a not a Star Wars movie. Yeah, yeah, So
- 39:11Speaker 1: this time we're taking a couple of our our new stories.
- 39:15Speaker 1: We're actually staying true to our news stories, and we
- 39:17Speaker 1: are mashing up alien something from the Alien universe and
- 39:24Speaker 1: something from the Star Wars. Yes, the best thing from
- 39:27Speaker 1: the Star Wars which walks. And now that I'm thinking
- 39:31Speaker 1: about it, I would have been an e walk. I
- 39:34Speaker 1: would be wicket yub nub. So now I I specifically
- 39:41Speaker 1: had mentioned to Ariel when we were figuring out what
- 39:43Speaker 1: we're going to mash up, I said, the e Walk movie.
- 39:47Speaker 1: So for those of you out there who there are
- 39:49Speaker 1: two of them, there are two of them. The second
- 39:52Speaker 1: one is it starts in a way that completely invalidates
- 39:56Speaker 1: the entirety of the first one. So for those who
- 40:00Speaker 1: are blissfully unaware that there were two Ewok movies in
- 40:04Speaker 1: the mid eighties, after Return of the Jedi came out,
- 40:08Speaker 1: and obviously the Walks were a boon for toy sales,
- 40:14Speaker 1: like that was I mean, by that time Star Wars
- 40:16Speaker 1: had become a true merchandise machine. It wasn't that way
- 40:20Speaker 1: with the first movie, at least not originally. But once
- 40:23Speaker 1: that once that started rolling man did Lucas ride that right?
- 40:28Speaker 1: So e Walks were a big hit. So they decided
- 40:31Speaker 1: to make a couple of what we're made for TV
- 40:33Speaker 1: movies here in the United States. They did get apparently
- 40:36Speaker 1: a limited theatrical release in other parts of the world.
- 40:38Speaker 1: And um, the first one involved a family that gets
- 40:42Speaker 1: i think stranded on indoor and they end up encountering
- 40:46Speaker 1: the e Walks and they are trying to to survive
- 40:50Speaker 1: various dangers in that. The second one starts off with
- 40:54Speaker 1: everyone in that family, with the exception of the little
- 40:57Speaker 1: girl getting slaughtered. So the family that you were following
- 41:02Speaker 1: and rooting for in the first movie gets almost completely
- 41:07Speaker 1: wiped out in the second one at the beginning of
- 41:09Speaker 1: the second one. But anyway, it was really more of
- 41:12Speaker 1: an excuse to have more e walk so that you
- 41:14Speaker 1: can have more twice. Yeah, I mean the girl the
- 41:17Speaker 1: girl did stick. Sindal was in both of them. Um,
- 41:20Speaker 1: And we already kind of talked about aliens. You know,
- 41:22Speaker 1: there's there's these like primordial parasitic monsters aliens doing what
- 41:30Speaker 1: they do, and there's an evil corporation that tries to
- 41:32Speaker 1: weaponize them and then they run them up because they're
- 41:35Speaker 1: really powerful and have survived since the dawn of time
- 41:39Speaker 1: and spaceships and it's really scary. The first movie is
- 41:42Speaker 1: a horror. The second movie is kind of a sci
- 41:44Speaker 1: fi adventure but also scary, and then it goes downhill
- 41:49Speaker 1: from there. Yes, Like the first two films are are masterpieces,
- 41:54Speaker 1: and they are so different, right. The first one is
- 41:57Speaker 1: this very atmospheric, oppressive, scary horror movie by Ridley Scott.
- 42:02Speaker 1: The second one still has some scary elements but is
- 42:05Speaker 1: more of an action movie like and it's that one's
- 42:09Speaker 1: by James Cameron. So it's interesting that they can be
- 42:12Speaker 1: so different and yet they feel like they belong in
- 42:15Speaker 1: the same universe. It's just different stories and different settings. Yeah,
- 42:20Speaker 1: and something we forgot to mention earlier, but AI also
- 42:24Speaker 1: plays kind of possibly villainous role in the stories as well,
- 42:29Speaker 1: but it's so overshadowed for me by the actual aliens
- 42:34Speaker 1: and that creepy grotest because the Androids, the Androids and
- 42:37Speaker 1: the Alien series, they're made by the corporation that's sending
- 42:41Speaker 1: people out. So you whenever there's an android, you immediately
- 42:45Speaker 1: question that androids motivations, right, You immediately assume this android
- 42:50Speaker 1: is specifically there to fulfill the the mission for the corporation,
- 42:57Speaker 1: whether that ends up slaughtering everybody else or not. Up yeah. Yeah. So.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Uh that being said, let's take these very little creatures
- 43:06Speaker 1: and match them up with some evil, slimy aliens. I'm
- 43:11Speaker 1: going to go ahead and go first. Uh So this
- 43:15Speaker 1: is called The Walks and the Battle for Nostromo. After
- 43:20Speaker 1: Sindal's ship crashes on end Or, she and her brother
- 43:22Speaker 1: befriend a bunch of the Walks in an attempt to
- 43:24Speaker 1: find their parents who are missing. After the crash, the
- 43:27Speaker 1: kids are told that their parents were captured by that
- 43:29Speaker 1: feature Loudo, the go ax. They make a plan to
- 43:31Speaker 1: travel to the Coaxes Layer to free them. Feat. Laura,
- 43:34Speaker 1: by the way, is e Walks, But that doesn't It
- 43:38Speaker 1: just means that darn bad guy kind of essentially. Anyhow,
- 43:41Speaker 1: they make a plan to travel to the Goaxes Layer
- 43:43Speaker 1: to free them, but when they get to the layer,
- 43:45Speaker 1: they find something much worse than the go Axe. They
- 43:47Speaker 1: find a hundred egg like slimy objects and the go
- 43:52Speaker 1: As lying in the corner with his chest burst open.
- 43:56Speaker 1: Then they see a scorch trail that looks like a
- 43:58Speaker 1: small ship. It taken off from the gore Axes Lair.
- 44:00Speaker 1: The children and the e Walks decide to quickly leave
- 44:03Speaker 1: the lair and come up with another plan, but just
- 44:05Speaker 1: as they do, they are caught by a sorceress named Harold.
- 44:08Speaker 1: She's trying to leave the planet as well, in fear
- 44:10Speaker 1: after something horrible happened at her Marauders castle to her companion,
- 44:15Speaker 1: and she figured the children and e walks would be
- 44:16Speaker 1: a good bargaining tool onto any ship she found out
- 44:19Speaker 1: in space, so she throws them all into a spaceship
- 44:22Speaker 1: and flies off uh and in space they find well spaceship,
- 44:27Speaker 1: of course, the Nostromo. It seems to be abandoned, so
- 44:30Speaker 1: maybe she didn't need her prisoners after all, and she
- 44:32Speaker 1: completely forgets about them when she lands in the hangar
- 44:35Speaker 1: bay and there is a shadow and a chitter that
- 44:38Speaker 1: she goes off to find what it is that leaves
- 44:41Speaker 1: the kids and their Ewok friends alone. In the landing bay,
- 44:45Speaker 1: they see an escape pod that they assumed would leave
- 44:47Speaker 1: similar scorch marks to the one they saw on end Or,
- 44:50Speaker 1: the moon that they were on where the Ewoks live,
- 44:53Speaker 1: and they decide Cindel and her brother's parents might be there,
- 44:57Speaker 1: and they go searching for them. All along the way
- 44:59Speaker 1: they hear hittering screams and see remains of what looks
- 45:02Speaker 1: like it might have once been sentient creatures. Also a
- 45:05Speaker 1: lot more slimy eggs, lots of them, and then there
- 45:08Speaker 1: is a different scream. They go cautiously to see what
- 45:12Speaker 1: it is and find Harold ripped apart from the stomach
- 45:14Speaker 1: like something burst through just like the Gorax. The Wax
- 45:18Speaker 1: grab whatever improvised weapons they can pipes for, spears, knives, shrapnel,
- 45:22Speaker 1: and even a whaling utani flamethrower, and continue their search.
- 45:26Speaker 1: As they round a corner, Sindal and her brother see
- 45:28Speaker 1: their parents asleep in a couple of cryo chambers, or
- 45:31Speaker 1: what we would assume of the cryo chambers, they don't
- 45:33Speaker 1: really know. As the kids struggle to free their parents,
- 45:36Speaker 1: they hear a chittering screech behind them, and that's when
- 45:38Speaker 1: they see it, the queen of the Xeno morphs. She
- 45:40Speaker 1: opens her huge maw and then her smaller ma at
- 45:44Speaker 1: the e walks and they all yelled killed the monster
- 45:47Speaker 1: and ewa kas and before the Zeno Marph can cause
- 45:49Speaker 1: her carnage, the e walks dispatch her because e walks
- 45:52Speaker 1: are really vicious. You all feeling momentarily safe, the kids
- 45:55Speaker 1: figure out how to get their parents out of stasis.
- 45:57Speaker 1: The parents tell the kids they were taken by the
- 45:59Speaker 1: Queen Zeno Morph to the ship. They thought they were
- 46:01Speaker 1: done for with how quickly she dispatched the Corex, but
- 46:04Speaker 1: then she stuck them in stasis. Thankfully, the kids, that
- 46:07Speaker 1: e walks, and the parents all find their way back
- 46:09Speaker 1: to the escape pod without further harrowing adventures, and they
- 46:13Speaker 1: head back to end Or. As they land, the parents
- 46:16Speaker 1: look a bit odd. Cyndel asks what's wrong, and they
- 46:18Speaker 1: say nothing, just some indigestion. As they all leave the
- 46:22Speaker 1: ship with one e walk who we all know is Wicket,
- 46:25Speaker 1: shooting his new found flamethrower the air and screaming young Nub.
- 46:28Speaker 1: As they head back to the Ewalk village to celebrate
- 46:31Speaker 1: and repair their own ship. The camera zooms in on
- 46:33Speaker 1: the loading dock of the escape pot. We see an
- 46:35Speaker 1: egg tucked away in a hidden corner begin to shape,
- 46:38Speaker 1: and we hear a chittering speech cut to black. Wow,
- 46:44Speaker 1: darker than you usually go, Darker than I usually go.
- 46:48Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was good, but uh,
- 46:50Speaker 1: well no, I think I think it was interesting and interesting.
- 46:53Speaker 1: Take because you made it where the e Walks were characters.
- 46:57Speaker 1: Uh it's a little different than my version of this
- 46:59Speaker 1: is called aliens E walkin Roll, Here we go. Ellen
- 47:05Speaker 1: Ripley has a problem. After being rescued by a salvage
- 47:09Speaker 1: crew and awakened out of stasis, she has discovered that
- 47:12Speaker 1: the Wicked whaland Utahni Corporation has established a colony on
- 47:16Speaker 1: the very same moon where her crew encountered the eggs
- 47:20Speaker 1: of the dangerous alien creature, the same creature that managed
- 47:23Speaker 1: to kill all aboard the Nostromo except for Ripley herself,
- 47:27Speaker 1: oh and her kittycat, Jonesy. And now the company has
- 47:32Speaker 1: lost contact with that colony, necessitating our reconnaissance mission to
- 47:37Speaker 1: find out what happened. Ripley agrees to go along as
- 47:40Speaker 1: a sort of consultant. Ripley joins the crew of the Salaco.
- 47:45Speaker 1: Most of the crew are Marines and their skeptical of
- 47:48Speaker 1: Ripley's accounts of a dangerous alien. And then there's Carter Burke,
- 47:52Speaker 1: a rep from the company. Oh, and of course there's
- 47:55Speaker 1: the ship's protocol Android Bishop three p O. The Sala
- 48:00Speaker 1: Paco sets course for the moon now known by the
- 48:03Speaker 1: colony name of Indoor. The Salaco deploys a drop ship
- 48:08Speaker 1: down to the surface of Indoor, where the crew finds
- 48:11Speaker 1: the small colony completely empty except for one young girl
- 48:15Speaker 1: they decided to call Newt Skywalker. Newt is clearly shaken
- 48:20Speaker 1: up and almost completely non communicative. The crew pick up
- 48:25Speaker 1: signals of the colonists. They appear to be up in
- 48:29Speaker 1: the trees, and so after using some equipment to climb up,
- 48:33Speaker 1: the crew find a primitive village up in the trees itself.
- 48:37Speaker 1: The colonists are all comatose and they're covered in this
- 48:41Speaker 1: weird goo. Ripley tries to warn the others, but while
- 48:45Speaker 1: doing so, something terrible happens. One of the comatose colonists
- 48:49Speaker 1: begins to shutter and their abdomen distends horrifically. Next thing
- 48:54Speaker 1: you know, a little teddy bear like critter pops out
- 48:57Speaker 1: of the colonist Torso, oh, how cutes has corporal Hicks?
- 49:01Speaker 1: Are you crazy? Asks Ripley. We're going to be rich
- 49:06Speaker 1: Yales Burke, the merchandizing alone is going to go through
- 49:09Speaker 1: the roof. Before Ripley can respond, the little teddy bear
- 49:13Speaker 1: critter leaps out and latches onto another crew member. Let's
- 49:17Speaker 1: say it was Lieutenant Gorman and the teddy Bear viciously
- 49:21Speaker 1: bites into Gorman's neck, killing him. At this point, Corporal
- 49:25Speaker 1: Hicks kind of loses it. He will continue to kind
- 49:28Speaker 1: of lose it throughout the rest of the movie. The
- 49:31Speaker 1: group makes their escape as other furry alien critters burst
- 49:35Speaker 1: out of colonists. They managed to get out of the
- 49:38Speaker 1: trees back to the drop ship, but they find that
- 49:41Speaker 1: the ship itself has been disabled as to adult aliens
- 49:44Speaker 1: who look like teddy Bears but bigger and armed with
- 49:48Speaker 1: primitive weapons, have managed to damage the flight systems of
- 49:51Speaker 1: the ship and kill the pilots. Oh and the adult
- 49:55Speaker 1: Ewok aliens also have second, tinier Ewok alien heads in
- 50:00Speaker 1: their own mouths when they open up their mouths, which
- 50:02Speaker 1: is an image so horrific I hate that I wrote
- 50:05Speaker 1: it down. Having no choice but to hide in the
- 50:09Speaker 1: remains of the colony, the group bunkers down and that's
- 50:12Speaker 1: when they hear it. Hundreds of aliens, all chanting yub
- 50:17Speaker 1: nub yub nub. Game over man came over, says Corporal Hicks,
- 50:23Speaker 1: who continues to kind of lose it. Ripley takes over.
- 50:27Speaker 1: Burke secretly tries to capture a little teddy bear alien
- 50:30Speaker 1: but he gets his face eaten off by a bunch
- 50:33Speaker 1: of them in a way that is brutal and yet
- 50:35Speaker 1: satisfying because Burke rhymes with jerk. What follows is a
- 50:40Speaker 1: sequence of big action set pieces in which the Marines
- 50:44Speaker 1: get taken out by Ewok aliens who use the terrain
- 50:47Speaker 1: and primitive traps to their advantage. Ripley, Newt, Hicks, and
- 50:51Speaker 1: Bishop managed to evade capture and death, but the others
- 50:55Speaker 1: aren't so lucky, though Beskes does get this really cool
- 50:58Speaker 1: sacrifice move advised them some time, and squishes up you
- 51:02Speaker 1: he walks. Bishop offers to make his way to the
- 51:05Speaker 1: communications station on the colony, where he'll be able to
- 51:08Speaker 1: make contact with the Slaco in orbit and deploy another
- 51:11Speaker 1: drop shop, so he leaves the group behind. They have
- 51:14Speaker 1: a few more close calls as hurry e walks trying
- 51:16Speaker 1: to take them out, but fortunately the e walks have
- 51:19Speaker 1: short little legs so they're not really that hard to outrun.
- 51:23Speaker 1: But Bishop eventually returns, having managed to land the drop ship.
- 51:26Speaker 1: But more importantly, he's discovered something odd. The Ewoks worship
- 51:31Speaker 1: Bishop three po as a god. That's a pretty big
- 51:34Speaker 1: promotion to go from bishop to god. With this newfound status,
- 51:39Speaker 1: Bishop is able to convince the Ewoks to allow Hicks, Ripley,
- 51:42Speaker 1: and Nuke Skywalker to go to the drop shop. He
- 51:45Speaker 1: joins them there, and all four make their way back
- 51:48Speaker 1: to the Silaco. Once they're Ripley turns to Bishop, nuke
- 51:52Speaker 1: it for morbit. It's the only way to be sure.
- 51:55Speaker 1: Bishop nods and aims the Silaco's nuclear arsenal at the
- 51:58Speaker 1: surface of Indoor, where you can almost hear the sounds
- 52:02Speaker 1: of musical celebration, and boom, a huge wave of nuclear
- 52:05Speaker 1: missiles rains down on the moon and just wipes everything out.
- 52:10Speaker 1: Ripley picks Newt, Skywalker, and Bishop all into cryo asleep
- 52:13Speaker 1: as the ship sets a course back to core space.
- 52:17Speaker 1: The end, that was really good, even though you killed
- 52:22Speaker 1: all of my favorite Walks, well, I mean like they
- 52:24Speaker 1: were monsters. They were. I mean, I think that's the
- 52:28Speaker 1: thing that we can agree about in our both of
- 52:30Speaker 1: our mashups, is that the e Walks are are vicious,
- 52:33Speaker 1: vicious creatures. I mean they in Return of the Jedi,
- 52:38Speaker 1: they capture our heroes and it's clear they're going to
- 52:41Speaker 1: eat them so and they turned Stormtrooper helmets into a
- 52:47Speaker 1: giant xylophone, which is awesome and hilarious. And then they
- 52:51Speaker 1: and then they change their their in song from one
- 52:54Speaker 1: version of Return of the Jedi to the remastered version
- 52:58Speaker 1: Return of the Jedidah. Yeah, yeah, that's it. The song
- 53:03Speaker 1: is different at the end, right like it. It was
- 53:05Speaker 1: a little e Walks song nu yep nub yep nub ye.
- 53:10Speaker 1: That's totally different in the the special edition. Well that's
- 53:14Speaker 1: okay because when we got the cartoon they spoke English,
- 53:16Speaker 1: so yes, now, and I guess somewhat in the movies listen,
- 53:22Speaker 1: they had already had the experience of the Star Wars
- 53:25Speaker 1: Christmas Special and realized what a huge mistake it was
- 53:28Speaker 1: to have Wookies only speaking in Wookies for the entire special.
- 53:32Speaker 1: That just made it incomprehensible. All right, Well, that wraps
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