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Episode #3972 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive December 1999 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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  Speaker 1: Hey, it's Phil Henry.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour today of the three
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  Speaker 2: that we dropped for you. This is one from December
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  Speaker 2: of 1999 when Dr. Jim Sadler, he joined the program
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  Speaker 2: because we're right on the verge of the new millennium.
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  Speaker 2: It was going to be Y2K, all that crazy stuff,
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  Speaker 2: but it was December 99 heading into January 2000.
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  Speaker 1: But Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Sadler joined the program and he'd written an article about
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  Speaker 2: his explosive theory that the 21st century won't begin for
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  Speaker 2: another year. meaning it would begin after 100 years had
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  Speaker 2: been completed, which means at the end of the year 2000.
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  Speaker 2: And you'll hear the people call and try to disabuse
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  Speaker 2: him of this theory. I'm not even sure I knew
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  Speaker 2: then and even now.
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  Speaker 1: What it was he was talking about.
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  Speaker 3: In an article for Science in America, our next guest
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  Speaker 3: is Jim Sadler, and he's written an article for this
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  Speaker 3: month's issue of Science in America. And he basically outlines
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  Speaker 3: in the article the 21st century is.
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  Speaker 1: Not going to begin....
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  Speaker 3: On Saturday let me just repeat that that Jim Sadler
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  Speaker 3: who is sort of a part-time historian and amateur astronomer
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  Speaker 3: and has written this article for Science in America and
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  Speaker 3: he says the 21st century is not going to begin
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday but.
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  Speaker 1: Will not begin for another year.
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  Speaker 3: And we want to talk to, we have on the
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  Speaker 3: line this evening from Santa Barbara, California.
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  Speaker 1: Jim, how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm very good, Phil.
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  Speaker 1: What is this about?
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  Speaker 4: The article.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what is your article about? So the 21st century
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  Speaker 3: is what? It's not going to begin until when?
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me, Phil, begin by saying that I wanted,
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  Speaker 4: if I could, I would love for you to take 100,
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  Speaker 4: say 99 pennies. and lay them out on a tabletop.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very easy thing to do. People at home
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  Speaker 4: can do this. You take 99 pennies and lay it
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  Speaker 4: on a tabletop.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 4: What have you got?
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  Speaker 1: I got 99 pennies.
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  Speaker 4: You have 99 cents. Do you have a dollar is
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  Speaker 4: the question. Do you have a dollar?
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  Speaker 1: No, I have 99 cents.
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  Speaker 4: And so it is with a century. you don't have
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  Speaker 4: 99 years in a century. You have 100 years in
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  Speaker 4: a century. And when I decided to write the article
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  Speaker 4: for Science in America, and they had been, they wanted
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  Speaker 4: to retain me for a couple of looks at the
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  Speaker 4: 21st century and scientific development in the 21st century. I said,
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  Speaker 4: I want to do something different. And he said, all right,
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  Speaker 4: what do you want to do? I said, I want
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  Speaker 4: to look at the century past, and I want to
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  Speaker 4: look at it from the standpoint of whether or not
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  Speaker 4: the millennium is turning on the 1st of January this
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  Speaker 4: coming weekend, or whether or not it would be turning
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  Speaker 4: in a year.
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  Speaker 3: All right, this is a little confusing.
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  Speaker 1: What are you saying?
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  Speaker 3: Are you saying that the Century, the 21st century won't
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  Speaker 3: begin for another year?
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  Speaker 4: That is right. And I went to my editors at
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  Speaker 4: Science in America, and I told them what I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to do. And, of course, they were very confused. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't know what I was saying. And I suddenly found out,
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  Speaker 4: through my own sort of cursory exploration, that people were
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  Speaker 4: not aware of the fact that the century doesn't end
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  Speaker 4: this coming century. this coming Saturday, but it won't end
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  Speaker 4: for another year. And I do some lecturing at a
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  Speaker 4: junior college up here in Santa Barbara, Phil, and I
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  Speaker 4: would present this to the teachers and a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the students. And so what I found out from my
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  Speaker 4: investigations and a lot of my different travels and discussions
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  Speaker 4: was that most people still believe that the century ends
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  Speaker 4: on Friday and Okay. And that the millennium ends on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: And that the millennium doesn't end in a year. And
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  Speaker 4: I went to my editors at Science in America, and
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  Speaker 4: I tried to lay this out to them. They didn't
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  Speaker 4: quite understand. But I said, let me write an article
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  Speaker 4: about it anyway. So that's what came of our article,
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  Speaker 4: Science in America. And the title of the article is Millennium,
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  Speaker 4: What Millennium?
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you're saying what?
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  Speaker 3: You're saying that the century and the millennium will not
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  Speaker 3: end when?
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  Speaker 4: They will not end until the end of the year 2000,
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  Speaker 4: not the end of the year 1999. And this is
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  Speaker 4: a theory that I've been toying with for about six
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  Speaker 4: or seven months when Science in America contacted me and
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  Speaker 4: they wanted me to write the article. And I said, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'd like to do something a little different.
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  Speaker 4: And they said, what do you got in mind? And
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  Speaker 4: I said, well, take a look at this. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the fact is the millennium and the century won't end
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  Speaker 4: until the end of 2000 because you've got to have 100,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like let's just say the century, okay? Okay, Phil? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm listening to you. I'm having a hard time.
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  Speaker 1: You want to say what?
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  Speaker 4: Let's just say we're talking about the century. Let's say
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  Speaker 4: that we're not talking about the millennium, okay? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So we're talking about what?
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  Speaker 4: We're talking about the millennium. We're talking about the century ending, okay? Okay, Phil?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. So we're only talking about the century.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So you've got to have 100 years and a century.
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  Speaker 4: You can't have 99. This century doesn't end until the
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  Speaker 4: end of the year 2000. And I told this to
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  Speaker 4: Wayne Bryce, who's the managing editor of Science in America,
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  Speaker 4: and he kind of looked at me and he said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you've got something there. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 4: it is you've got, but you've got something there. And
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to, let's go for it. Let's take a chance.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go for it. Let's write the article and see
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  Speaker 4: what happens. So I said, all right, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: your money. And since I've written the article, it's raised
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  Speaker 4: a lot of eyebrows. You know, it's got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people talking. I'm very gratified.
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  Speaker 3: Well, so you're saying that the century won't end until
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  Speaker 3: the end of the year 2000.
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  Speaker 1: Is that right?
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  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how come people say it's going to end now?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. But since I published my article, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people calling, and I've gotten a lot
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  Speaker 4: of emails, a lot of them very, very gracious and
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  Speaker 4: very complimentary as to my article, and I've got a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people talking about it. They are flipping out.
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  Speaker 4: So hold your horses, people, because the turn of the
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  Speaker 4: century may not be coming for another year.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Jim Sadler is with us, astronomer, historian. He's
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  Speaker 3: written a few articles for a variety of magazines, science magazines.
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  Speaker 3: He's written one for Science in America called Millennium, What Millennium?
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  Speaker 3: And in it, he goes on to say that the
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  Speaker 3: century doesn't end at the end of the year 1999.
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  Speaker 3: It ends at the end of the year 2000. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: I've never heard that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's very original. Very original. And I'm
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  Speaker 4: the only one that's talked about it. As amazing as
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  Speaker 4: that sounds... I can't believe how stupid some people are,
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  Speaker 4: you know, especially the guys in the scientific community. And
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  Speaker 4: I've been talking about this for six months. And these people,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're really stupid that they don't talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be back with Jim Sadler.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk a little bit more with him
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  Speaker 3: about this whole concept of there being like 100 years
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  Speaker 3: and a century.
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  Speaker 1: And it's pretty weird. Our number is 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686. This
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  Speaker 1: is The Phil Henry Show.
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  Speaker 3: Phil Henry Show, 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686. Jim Sadler with us has
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  Speaker 3: authored the article Millennium, What Millennium for Science in America.
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  Speaker 3: In it, he basically outlines that we shouldn't be celebrating
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  Speaker 3: the end of the century this coming Friday night. We
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  Speaker 3: should be celebrating it in another year because the century
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  Speaker 3: doesn't end. Get this, the century doesn't end until the
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  Speaker 3: end of the year 2000.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, Jim.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I was thinking about it. I mean, the millennium
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  Speaker 4: will end, but not the century. I mean, the century
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  Speaker 4: and the millennium don't end. Both of them end next year.
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  Speaker 1: Both of them.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So we're screwing up, huh?
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  Speaker 4: I'll tell you, there's going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people with their shorts down around their ankles on this
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  Speaker 4: coming Friday night. There's going to be a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people with their shorts around their ankles because most people
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  Speaker 4: think they're going to be celebrating the end of the
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  Speaker 4: 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. And
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  Speaker 4: there's going to be a lot of people with their
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  Speaker 4: shorts down around their ankles on this one because it
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  Speaker 4: just isn't so. Okay? Okay, Phil? Phil?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about what you're saying, and it's, you know.
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  Speaker 4: There are going to be a lot of people with
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  Speaker 4: their shorts down around their ankles.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Mint Hill on the Phil
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  Speaker 1: Henry Show.
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  Speaker 4: Hello.
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  Speaker 7: Hi.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 8: Hello.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wanted to say that it's a pretty
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  Speaker 5: well-known idea that the millennium or the century doesn't end
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  Speaker 5: until the year 2001. I mean, it's just that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, the answer. being disseminated now, but
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people out there that didn't know
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  Speaker 4: that until we published our article.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean, it's been out, and we're not.
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  Speaker 4: What do you mean it's been out?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, people have known about it.
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  Speaker 4: What do people know about it? You know how many
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  Speaker 4: people are going to be in Times Square? And all
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  Speaker 4: of these people are going to be standing around with
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  Speaker 4: their shorts down around their ankles thinking it's the end
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  Speaker 4: of the 20th century.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the big deal about it is that,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, when.
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  Speaker 1: Well, where did you hear about it, ma'am?
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  Speaker 9: Actually, I have a lot of younger brothers and sisters,
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  Speaker 9: and I heard about it on Nickelodeon, and they were
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  Speaker 9: talking about this history, and this is what they said.
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  Speaker 7: Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Sadler?
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  Speaker 4: I dropped the phone on that one. I dropped the
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  Speaker 4: phone on that one.
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  Speaker 1: Hold the phone.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just explain to the lady who I am.
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  Speaker 4: My name is Jim Sadler. I've contributed scientific articles to
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  Speaker 4: a variety of magazines, Science in America most recently. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: And I've got to tell you something, all right? You're
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  Speaker 4: telling me that you heard this on Nickelodeon. Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, sir, I did.
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  Speaker 4: See, right there, I've got to throw the flag on
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  Speaker 4: that right there.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean, throw the flag on it?
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  Speaker 4: Well, the fact is I was the first one to
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  Speaker 4: talk about this. That hurts. Well, I mean, I'm not...
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  Speaker 4: It just hurts. That's all I wanted to say. I
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  Speaker 4: know it's not your fault. I'm not saying it's your fault. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm saying that it hurts deep inside. That a
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  Speaker 4: kid with green slime on his head, you know, is
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  Speaker 4: telling me something that I've already written about.
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  Speaker 5: What do you mean green slime?
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  Speaker 4: You know that show where they dump green crap all
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  Speaker 4: over you? You know the one I'm talking about, ma'am? Yes,
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  Speaker 4: I do. That's the one.
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  Speaker 5: That's the one, actually. But I'm just telling you that
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people know about it, and I just
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  Speaker 5: wanted you to know that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how did a lot of people? You wrote your article.
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  Speaker 1: When did your article appear?
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  Speaker 4: My article appeared back in June. Okay, so it's possible
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  Speaker 4: that Nickelodeon, you know, got their information from me. Yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good one. Thank you, ma'am, for your call.
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  Speaker 4: No problem.
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  Speaker 3: Here is Norwalk on the Phil Henry Show.
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  Speaker 8: Hello.
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  Speaker 10: Hi.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just wanted to congratulate this guy for actually
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  Speaker 6: being smart enough to figure this out. All these people
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  Speaker 6: this year are celebrating, saying, oh, it's the millennium. It's
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  Speaker 6: not the year. It's not until next year.
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  Speaker 4: Think about it. Well, I know.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 4: And I wrote the article. Are you telling me you
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  Speaker 4: figured it out?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I can actually figure out an easy way to
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  Speaker 6: explain it.
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  Speaker 4: You figured it out before you read my article?
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  Speaker 8: I didn't figure it out.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, my friend did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but did your friend read my article?
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  Speaker 6: No, I didn't read your article.
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  Speaker 4: All right, so you're telling me that your friend figured
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  Speaker 4: it out before, independent of my article?
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  Speaker 6: How about I struck your ego?
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  Speaker 8: My friend read your article.
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  Speaker 4: How's that? Oh, well, now you're patronizing me. Probably. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you're patronizing me.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm just saying that you actually figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: You figured this out, ma'am?
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  Speaker 6: My friend did.
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  Speaker 1: How did your friend figure it out?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know how he figured it out. All I
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  Speaker 6: know is I caught him in the middle of an argument,
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  Speaker 6: and he was trying to explain it to people. And
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  Speaker 6: I tried to explain it to people. Nobody gets it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, it's a tough one for people
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  Speaker 4: to get, all right? No, it's not.
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  Speaker 6: If you explain it correctly, it's not tough.
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  Speaker 4: Then why aren't more people getting it?
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  Speaker 6: Maybe because you're not explaining that right.
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  Speaker 4: Wait a second. You said that you were surprised more
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  Speaker 4: people didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So even you must admit it's difficult for people to guess.
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  Speaker 6: No, people want to believe what they want to believe.
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  Speaker 4: My article explains it, I think, the best way you can.
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  Speaker 4: My article says it very simply. 99 pennies makes 99 cents.
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  Speaker 4: 100 pennies makes a dollar. 99 years do not make
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  Speaker 4: a century. 100 years makes a century.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: See, that's the best way to explain it. Okay. How
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  Speaker 4: did your friend explain it?
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  Speaker 6: He explained it, that there's a year 1 B.C., there's
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  Speaker 6: a year 1 A.D., there's no year 0.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's too, you can't do it that way.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's too easy.
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  Speaker 6: I don't have a penny to give you.
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  Speaker 4: Not too easy, it's just, you know, read my article.
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  Speaker 4: Read my article.
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  Speaker 6: Read your article.
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  Speaker 4: Right, it's in Science in America. Why should I read it?
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  Speaker 7: I believe you already.
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  Speaker 4: No, but it'll help you explain it to people.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, and you're doing a really good job of explaining
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  Speaker 6: it yourself?
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  Speaker 4: Hello, I got an article in a magazine. Do you?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, but hello.
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  Speaker 6: How many people are following you?
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  Speaker 4: Hello, at least more people than are listening to you
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  Speaker 4: at a beer bash in somebody's backyard, you know? I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Okay. I didn't mean to put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that was very insulting.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to put it that way.
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  Speaker 4: But she's standing under a tree smoking a joint with
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  Speaker 4: four or five of her friends. I got an article
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  Speaker 4: in a magazine.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, and you're practically unheard of, I'm sure.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know of you.
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  Speaker 6: Your theory is not known.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what is your name? What is your name? My name? Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: My name is Stacy.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I've heard of Stacy.
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  Speaker 7: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, I've read all your books. Get out of here.
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  Speaker 4: Get out of here. Yeah, okay, thanks. Get out of here.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: At least I've been published in America.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, don't get into an argument about who's
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  Speaker 3: heard of who. Stacy's talking to her friends about it.
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  Speaker 3: You wrote your article. People will get it or they won't,
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  Speaker 3: depending upon their level of intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm figuring here, Stacy. Wouldn't you agree with that?
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  Speaker 6: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think you're both full of crap. Great.
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  Speaker 1: I'm full of crap. Thank you, ma'am, for your call.
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  Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show. Dr. Sadler on the line with us.
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  Speaker 3: Phil Henry here, 1-800-449-8686. And Jim Sadler with us, who
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  Speaker 3: has written the article for Science in America. Not Scientific American,
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  Speaker 3: by the way. There's been some confusion. It's another periodical
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  Speaker 3: called Science in America. And it's called Millennium, What Millennium?
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  Speaker 3: And he proposes that the century doesn't end this year,
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  Speaker 3: but in fact will end next year. And so all
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  Speaker 3: of the celebration about going into the 21st century this
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  Speaker 3: year is essentially premature. How was this article received in
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  Speaker 3: the scientific community, Jim?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah. It was not received well. You have an
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: awful lot. Let me tell you about the scientific community.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: There are a lot of prima donnas, a lot of
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: prima donnas who all want to believe that they were
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Johnny on the spot with the next therapy or the
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: next modality or the next concept, historical, philosophical, or otherwise.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: So any time. you come forward with a thought or
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: a concept, a theorem, that sort of challenges people to
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: get a little bit upset. So I would say the
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: scientific community, although we did have some very good support
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: from the University of Indiana and John Bradford there and
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: his research staff have been tremendous in supporting our theories.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I would say that when the article came out, it
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: was roundly, you know, a lot of people sort of
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: shrugged their shoulders.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Well, did they not like it? Were you a pariah?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people just wanted to ignore it
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: more than anything else. They wanted to pretend like it
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: didn't exist. You could go to meetings and say, well,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I wrote the article, Millennium and the Science of America,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: or what article is that? And you know that they're
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: lying to their teeth because they're jealous. They're basically jealous, so.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: All right, well, let's get to some more phone calls.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Jim Sadler, author of Millennium What Millennium in Science in America.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: San Antonio, hi, you're on the Phil Hendry Show.
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: Hello.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
• 17:38
  Speaker 10: Hey, I just got to tell you, man, I can't
• 17:42
  Speaker 10: believe where you're coming from. I mean, you've got probably
• 17:45
  Speaker 10: any second grader that knows how to count from 1
• 17:49
  Speaker 10: to 100. That's a century.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, really?
• 17:54
  Speaker 10: Well, sure, why not?
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, then if anybody... So, I mean, you know, you're
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: making me laugh. So what are you saying?
• 18:05
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm telling you that I knew this two years ago.
• 18:08
  Speaker 10: I mean, you can sit around any group of people
• 18:11
  Speaker 10: and be able to tell them, hey, you know, this
• 18:13
  Speaker 10: isn't the millennium. It all got pushed by the media.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: So the gentleman in San Antonio, you are saying that
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: this is what? You're saying it's common knowledge?
• 18:23
  Speaker 10: Sure, sure.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: That's dead wrong. That is dead wrong.
• 18:28
  Speaker 10: Well, it's all been pushed by the media. The media
• 18:30
  Speaker 10: got out there and started with the Millennium, and then
• 18:33
  Speaker 10: by that time it became a commercial game, and then
• 18:36
  Speaker 10: everybody jumped on the bandwagon.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but for you to sit there.
• 18:38
  Speaker 10: The rest of us who have actually graduated from any
• 18:40
  Speaker 10: kind of school knows that, hey, it takes a hundred
• 18:44
  Speaker 10: to make a century. Where are you coming from, man?
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: For you to sit there and tell me, my article
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: appeared in Science in America in June of this year.
• 18:53
  Speaker 10: Oh, come on, man.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: What are you trying to say?
• 18:57
  Speaker 10: We talked about this two years ago. You're telling me
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: that you're... It's a group of friends. Yeah, I mean,
• 19:02
  Speaker 10: you're kind of like saying, well, gee, you know... Just
• 19:05
  Speaker 10: because an apple falls from the tree, okay, now, oh,
• 19:08
  Speaker 10: that's gravity. Well, shoot, Chad, it's gravity. Now it's understood,
• 19:12
  Speaker 10: but you've got.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: To understand it. Wait a minute. It's easy for you
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: to call up after I've been on the air talking
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: about this. No, no, no, come on, man.
• 19:20
  Speaker 10: I've talked about this with people and argued with them.
• 19:23
  Speaker 10: Every time somebody came up and said something about millennium,
• 19:26
  Speaker 10: I said, hey, it's not until next year.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You're claiming that you.
• 19:29
  Speaker 10: Not the coming year, but the year after that.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I want you to be very careful now because... We're
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: getting into some areas of copyright infringement and libel. Oh,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: come on. I want you to be careful. I want
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: you to very clearly say to me, are you telling
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: me that you knew that the end of the century
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: was not this year? but next year before my article
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: came out?
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: Oh, man, come on.
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: This has got to be a joke.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: No, no, I'm asking you very seriously. Are you telling
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: me that?
• 19:57
  Speaker 10: Okay, I'm telling you very seriously that, look, you're going
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: to actually have the century up next. as of the
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: end of next year.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: And you founded this when?
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: Oh, a couple years ago when everybody started talking about
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: the millennium.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's good. Phil, what I want to say is
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: it's really easy after I've been on the air talking
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: to you about this to call in and say, oh,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: I had the idea already.
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: I could bona fide with friends, neighbors, whoever, that for
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: at least, at least the last year, when people.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Come up and say, hey, what about the Millennium?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: This is the gentleman, this is the host, sir.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Do you have anybody in the car with you now
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: who might have discussed this with you before?
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You're by yourself?
• 20:43
  Speaker 10: I'm coming home from an A & M Penn game.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 10: They got waxed pretty good, so I'm just listening to
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: the show.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M and Penn State?
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: What was that for? Was that the.
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: It was the Sylvania Alamo Bowl.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, it was the Alamo Bowl.
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And where was that game played, in El Paso?
• 21:01
  Speaker 10: San Antonio.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: San Antonio.
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: Big San Antonio.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Well, hey, it's a good town, San Antonio. It's a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: great town.
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: It's a beautiful city.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Let's get back to the point here. The point that
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: we're trying to make is, if you can verify by
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: having one of your friends call, or how far are
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: you from home right now?
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: Oh, I'm a long way from home. I'm like miles.
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: I'm going to have to talk to a cow or something.
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: You can probably fall on the ground and tell me
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: that it's going to be up.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say what I said before. It's really
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: easy for you to call in and say that you
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: thought of this before.
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: What do you mean it's easy? I'll tell you what.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Hold on for a minute, just so people who are
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: tuning in know what we're talking about.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Dr.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Sadler wrote an article for Science in America saying that
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: the millennium, the century, didn't end on Friday, but in
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: point of fact the century would end at the end.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Of the year 2000.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: This gentleman who's called from San Antonio, and I have
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to say, Doctor, many other callers have said they already
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: knew that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm saying that's a lie.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: You're saying it's a lie.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: I cannot fathom how somebody can tell us that, hey, like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 10: we're not smart enough. to figure it out.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Okay. Then how come everybody's celebrating the end of the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: century Friday night?
• 22:12
  Speaker 10: I just told you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: Explain that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: It's a media game that's already had enough commercial hype
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: to it. And of course, with the Y2K being pushed
• 22:22
  Speaker 10: right in behind it, it's perfect. It's perfect, man.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: This is my article. And you're trying to come in
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and tell me.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to let the gentleman go. Thank
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you for your call this evening, sir.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: No, he's coming in. He heard me on the air
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: talking about this was my idea. I put it forth
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: initially at a series of Y2K seminars in the Northwest that,
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: you know, hey, the millennium doesn't start and the new
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: century doesn't start until 2001. Okay, Phil? Okay, Phil?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Okay. I put in my article now people calling up
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: and saying they had the idea. You know, that really
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: pisses me off. It just says. It just does.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: All right, let's go to some more phone calls, see
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: what other people are saying about this concept that the
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: century doesn't end this year but next year.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Atlanta on the Phil Henry Show.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 23:22
  Speaker 10: Hello.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
• 23:23
  Speaker 11: I've got a couple of points, first of which is
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: that I can sit here and tell you that I
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: knew long ago that in fact it was going to
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: happen as well, but again, we can argue back and
• 23:33
  Speaker 11: forth and neither one of us can verify with any
• 23:36
  Speaker 11: level of certainty that in fact we had the initial
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: idea that the millennium ends in fact at the end
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: of the year 2000, but what I will suggest If
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: you go to– I've got a couple of different websites
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: for you that, in fact, with certainty, state this before
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: six months ago.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Go to the U.S.
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: Naval Observatory website, okay, the official timekeepers of the.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: United States of America. Well, that's a government site, so.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: You're getting what you pay for there. That's a government site. Well, okay.
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: I assume that's probably who you set your clocks by
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: and who most people in the world set their clocks by.
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: The point is that that has been out longer than
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: six months. There's also a radio talk show host here
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: in Atlanta, an intelligent guy who's had it on his
• 24:20
  Speaker 11: website for a heck of a lot longer than six months.
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: Who is that?
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: His name is Neil Bortz. B-O-O-R-T-Z.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, that ass. Oh, he lied. That ass has lied
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: about so many things, it's not even funny.
• 24:32
  Speaker 11: Well, no, look, you can talk about it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, wait a second. What do you mean
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: he lies about it?
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: You know, Neil Borch is a clown. He's been clowning
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: around for about six months on this one.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Clowning around?
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: The question is, does, in fact, someone else, has anyone
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: else made the point that the white decay or the
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: millennium ends after the year 2000? And, in fact, they have.
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: But the bigger issue is this.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: So what? I mean, so what?
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: So people in Times Square are going to be celebrating
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: the new millennium when, in fact, it's not a reality,
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: or celebrating the end of the century when, in fact,
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: the century hasn't ended.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Who cares?
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: What does it matter?
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: I mean, you're arguing.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Well, you're just trying to make me look bad. I
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: don't want anybody stealing my idea. That's all there is
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: to it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Well, a guy just said that the United States government
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: and a whole lot of other people have had it
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: up on their sites, so I don't know how.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's such a thing as stealing. Stealing. Stealing.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: This guy bought the U.S.
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: Government.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: They're all the same asshole.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't have to get personal that way.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: What we're saying is that there are people saying they
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: already knew that the century didn't end this Friday, that
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: it ended next year as well.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Here's Medford, Oregon.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Hello.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: Hi.
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: I've been listening to this, and I kind of wonder,
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: like the last caller, what's the point? The point is.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I'm letting people know that the century doesn't end on Friday.
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: Okay, and I totally understand your point. The end of
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: the 100 years will be actually at the end of
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: next year. It makes perfect sense.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: After I explained it.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: No, I mean it's exactly the same.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: As the concept. After I explained it to you, yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: Well, let me explain something to you then and give
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: me the same courtesy. It's the same concept as that
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: when the century does end and we're starting the 21st century,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: not the 20th, it's because we had to account from
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: year zero to year 100 that counted as a century.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: And it's exactly.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: The same thing. It's just a matter of how logical
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: of a thinker that you are.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: I already wrote about it. So I already know. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: after I explained it, then you get it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: But, you know, it's been a topic of conversation and
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: other conversations before we've ever found this radio station.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: But it's not, it doesn't matter.
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: Why does it matter?
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: It matters because a lot of people don't know because
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: most people didn't know until I wrote my article. That's
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: why it matters.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: But time is still going, and it doesn't matter what
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: the year is.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Then why are we wasting all of the money on
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: this New Year's Eve when it should be a year
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: from now? There's a lot of money being spent, and
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of people are going to be caught with
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: their pants down around their ankles when they find out
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: that it isn't the end of the 20th century Friday night,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that it's another year. And the broadcast and Dick Clark Productions...
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: which produces a major show at the New York Times
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Square every year. Dick Clark, one of the most respected
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: entertainers in America, is going to be caught with his
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: pants down around his ankles because he didn't know that
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: the century is not ending for another year.
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: I really don't think that Dick Clark cares, and either
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: they spend the money this year or they spend the
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: money next year. It's another New Year's. They spend millions
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: of dollars every New Year.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: He's going to care when he gets caught with egg
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: on his face. He'll be there with egg on his face.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: Well, I hate to tell you, but nobody else cares either.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Ma'am, when he says, when Dick Clark... When Dick Clark
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: says it's the 21st century and it's not, he's going
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: to look like a major ass.
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: I think you're the one that's ending up looking like
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: an ass for arguing a point that's so mute it's ridiculous.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Mute?
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: Yes, it is.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: When Dick Clark says, welcome to the 21st century, whose
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: pants are going to be down around his ankles? Who cares?
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Not me, Dick Clark.
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: Who cares?
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Dick Clark who cares?
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: Hopefully mine are in celebration.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I have no comment on that, Phil. I will say
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that Dick Clark is going to care.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am. I tend to agree with the lady
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: in Oregon.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Well, you know something? I've listened to your program before,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: and you do take a contrary point of view from
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: the guest.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Sir, I am not taking it for gratuitous reasons. I'm
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: listening to what everybody's saying. It doesn't seem to be
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: such a big deal.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Dick Clark and a lot of people who put a
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: lot of money into New Year's celebrations are going to
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: be standing there bent over. OK, waiting to take it
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: because they missed out on what the new century really is.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think like the lady said, they're going to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: give a crap. Honest to God. Thank you for your call, ma'am.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Thank you.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show. Phil Henry Show at 1-800-449-8686.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: Jim Sadler, a frequent guest on our show, has written
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: an article for Science in America. Now, the article essentially
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: says that the century ends not this year but next year.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: You have made the point that there's going to be
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: a lot of people, and I'm quoting you, with their
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: pants down around their ankles.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It's very funny. With their pants down around their ankles.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Let me interrupt you. You think it's funny? Do you
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: think it's funny if you are made? entertainer like Barbra Streisand?
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: and you're standing on stage in Las Vegas, as she
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: will be this Friday night, and says, Happy New Year,
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: welcome in the 21st century, and it's not the 21st century.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: You think it's funny that Barbara Streisand is going to
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: be standing there taking it in the shorts? Do you
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: think it'll be funny for Dick Clark to be taking
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: it up the shorts? Do you think Will Smith is
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: going to be laughing? When he takes it square up
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the shorts and someone tells him that, hey, Will, guess what?
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: It's not the 21st century, you asshole. Do you think
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: he's going to be laughing?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I think you're being very dramatic.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Well, okay, you can say that I'm being very dramatic,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: but you're not Will Smith. Last time I checked, you're
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: not Barbra Streisand. Last time I checked, you're not Dick
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Clark or anybody else like that. You're not going to
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: be the one standing around with your pants dangling around
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: your ankles. Last time I checked, you don't have an
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: album called Millennium or anything like that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Well, guess who I am?
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: I am Phil Henry, and on New Year's Eve, we're
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: going to have some people here at our radio station
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and radio stations across our.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Network on New Year's Eve. They will be doing their
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Millennium Countdown, okay?
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: And all of them are going to have their shorts
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: twisted around their ankles, and they'll be shuffling out of
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the bathroom. I can guarantee you that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: All right, let me go to another call. Los Angeles
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: on the Phil Henry Show.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Hello?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. Okay, am I on air?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I wanted to mention that I don't normally call
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  Speaker 7: talk shows, but I was finishing to get on because
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  Speaker 7: I couldn't believe that this gentleman... I think that he's
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  Speaker 7: the one who revealed this idea that the millennium doesn't
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  Speaker 7: end in six months.
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  Speaker 4: I heard about it a couple years ago. Who else
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  Speaker 4: have you been hearing talking about it? Excuse me?
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  Speaker 7: I heard about it either on radio or on TV
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  Speaker 7: several years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's had the guts to talk about it.
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  Speaker 7: And it's the new millennium. They take it as a
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  Speaker 7: new millennium or century in a symbolic sense. Like we
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  Speaker 7: think about the 90s as.
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  Speaker 7: The decade or the 80s.
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  Speaker 4: Right, after you heard me talking about it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but it has been. You weren't, by any means,
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  Speaker 7: the first one to think about it.
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  Speaker 4: After you heard me talking about it?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, no, I heard about it several years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you know, I've been hearing this all night. I
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  Speaker 4: heard about it several years ago. If you heard about
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  Speaker 4: it several years ago, why didn't you tell people?
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  Speaker 7: Come on. When I hear about it, you take it
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  Speaker 7: for granted that it's well-known. Well-known?
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  Speaker 4: You take it for granted it's well-known?
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  Speaker 7: You make it sound like you reinvented the wheel or something.
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  Speaker 7: This is not the theory of relativity. It's such a
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  Speaker 7: basic math. I'm sure millions and millions who are non-math
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  Speaker 7: majors know about it.
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  Speaker 4: If it's so basic, why is Barbara Streisand doing a
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  Speaker 4: concert this weekend if it's so basic?
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  Speaker 7: Well, people take it that the new millennium is symbolic.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 7: It's a round number.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 7: It's like we celebrate the 90s or the 80s.
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  Speaker 4: And what's she going to do?
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  Speaker 7: Even though it's the 90s.
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  Speaker 4: And what's she going to do when she finds out
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  Speaker 4: that it's not the new millennium?
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  Speaker 7: A year later, you know.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think she's going to do when she
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  Speaker 4: finds out it's not the new millennium? I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think they make such a big deal out
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  Speaker 7: of it. I think it's mostly symbolic. 2000 is such
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  Speaker 7: a round number. 2001 does not sound like a round number.
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  Speaker 4: She's going to have her pants down around her ankles.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that I made such a big deal
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  Speaker 4: out of it. Well, I'm sorry. You're wrong.
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  Speaker 7: And the fact that I heard about it several years
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  Speaker 7: ago makes me just amazed that you're under the illusion
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  Speaker 7: that you're the first one who came up with it.
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  Speaker 4: I wrote an article about it. I first presented it
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  Speaker 4: to a historical research group at the University of Indiana
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  Speaker 4: in March of this year. I had some of the
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  Speaker 4: most distinguished historians in America rise to their feet and
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  Speaker 4: applaud me after my presentation.
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  Speaker 1: And now you're telling me that you got a standing ovation?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 1: You said you got a standing ovation at the University.
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  Speaker 4: Of Indiana, yeah. After I told them the millennium doesn't
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  Speaker 4: end this year, it ends next year. They stood on
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  Speaker 4: their feet and applauded me.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they were making fun of you.
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  Speaker 4: I beg your pardon?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe they were mocking you.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so. So I don't know what this
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  Speaker 4: guy is talking about.
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  Speaker 7: I'm saying probably most people. I haven't thought about it.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't something that I concentrated on, but when I
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  Speaker 7: heard it, it was immediate. Several years ago, it was
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  Speaker 7: obvious that... Right. And, I mean, you have a better-than-average
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  Speaker 7: brain on your head, but you weren't the first one
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  Speaker 7: to think about it. I mean, I'm sure millions around
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  Speaker 7: the world have known about it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they hadn't heard about it. A lot of people
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  Speaker 4: are writing me letters saying, you know, I never knew
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  Speaker 4: it until you did your article. And there are a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people who are, you know, they're celebrating the
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  Speaker 4: end of the century tomorrow or a Friday night. So
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  Speaker 4: what are you talking about? You know, Phil?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, that was several years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here.
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  Speaker 7: Another talk radio when.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Somebody pointed it out that because it's a wrong number.
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people.
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  Speaker 7: Are calling us.
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  Speaker 1: You heard about this, right, sir?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he heard about it after I talked about it.
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  Speaker 7: No, no, I heard about it a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, you did. No. Several years ago, I heard about it.
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  Speaker 7: No, you didn't.
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  Speaker 4: Radio or TV, I don't like to... It might have
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  Speaker 4: been my idea.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I came up with it. I came up with the
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  Speaker 4: idea six months ago. No, bullcrap.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: No, I swear to God.
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