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Sharri | 14 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show tonight. The
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Speaker 2: left in meltdown at Donald Trump's key appointments. Elon Musk,
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Speaker 2: a hero of the working class, has become enemy number
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Speaker 2: one for Democrats and they just can't cope with the.
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Speaker 3: New attorney general.
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Speaker 2: More on that in a moment Also tonight, a leading
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Speaker 2: Israeli politician lashes out at Penny Wong and Albanisi over
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Speaker 2: their move to recognize Palestinian sovereignty, and Israel's parliamentary speaker
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Speaker 2: also tells me that the normalization agreement between Israel and
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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia could happen in the next two months. That's
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Speaker 2: a major exclusive. It's coming up also tonight, how the
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Speaker 2: Quantus freebie scandal is still hurting the Prime Minister. It's
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Speaker 2: a big show tonight. We've got Matt Canavan, Kelly Sloane,
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Speaker 2: Jason Morrison and jem and Tognini. We're going to talk
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Speaker 2: about these climate rotesters in Melbourne today. Haven't we had
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Speaker 2: enough of this disruption? But first tonight, Donald Trump has
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Speaker 2: now announced key members of his cabinet and administration. They're
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Speaker 2: Trump loyalists who'll help the president prosecute the policies he.
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Speaker 3: Does now have a mandate fault.
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Speaker 2: Most are excellent choices, strong on national security, unapologetic supporters
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Speaker 2: of Western.
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Speaker 3: Values and Israel.
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Speaker 2: It's a bold and ambitious team that reflects Trump's landslide win.
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Speaker 3: But it's sending the left into meltdown.
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Speaker 4: Matt Gaebs, Tulca, Gabbard, Pete hegskifth do you think that
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Speaker 4: they are confirmable at this point?
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Speaker 5: What's the buzz on the hill right now?
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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I hope you don't forgive me for
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Speaker 6: saying this, Christian, but the general vibe on the Hill.
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Speaker 5: Right now is WTF.
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Speaker 1: People are a shock.
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Speaker 2: Wels is a Trump loyalist, an election denier, and a
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Speaker 2: NATO critic who echoes Trump's skepticism about supporting you.
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Speaker 7: But one person has loomed over all of that. His
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Speaker 7: name is Elon Musk. Multiple sources tell me tonight that
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Speaker 7: Musk has been seen at mar A Lago nearly every
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Speaker 7: single day since Donald Trump won, a co host.
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Speaker 5: Of Fox and Friends Weekend, not even like that regular weekend.
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Speaker 2: It's fun, isn't it? And yet they will get things done.
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami are heading up the Department
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Speaker 2: of Government Efficiency. The acronyms are dose, which Elon Musk
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Speaker 2: is having some fun with. It's also a popular decision.
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Speaker 2: Musk has become somewhat of a hero from working class Americans,
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Speaker 2: and in buying X, he's a defender of free speech.
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Speaker 2: And having Musk, one of the smartest men in the world,
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Speaker 2: in charge of slashing bureaucracy, well, it can only be
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Speaker 2: a good thing, and it'll all be transparent. Musk set
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Speaker 2: on X that we will also have a leaderboard for
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Speaker 2: most insanely dumb spending of your tax dollars. This will
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Speaker 2: both be extremely tragic and entertaining. Now must cut thousands
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Speaker 2: of jobs when he took over Twitter, but its usage
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Speaker 2: has skyrocketed despite the Left leaving it in droves, and
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Speaker 2: he's now been given the task of cutting the six
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Speaker 2: point five at trillion dollar annual government spending. He also
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Speaker 2: wants to help bring down America's thirty four trillion dollar debt.
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Speaker 2: It's an insane amount of money, but US debt, like
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Speaker 2: here in Australia, needs to be cut. The only downside
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Speaker 2: of it of this all is that unemployment will.
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Speaker 3: Rise as a result We've.
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Speaker 2: Seen from almost all the job reports under the Biden
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Speaker 2: administration that most employment growth comes from the government sector. Now,
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk also appears to be playing a key role
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Speaker 2: in advising Trump personally. He's reportedly sat in on some
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Speaker 2: of the interviews for cabinet spots. He also, as you know,
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Speaker 2: joined the call with Zelenski as I said, the left
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Speaker 2: are leaving x and even the Guardian announced today that
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Speaker 2: it would quit the social media platform, partly in protest
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Speaker 2: at Elon Musk. But no decision has outraged Washington as
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Speaker 2: much as Trump's moved to appoint Matt Gates as Attorney General.
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Speaker 2: He's a controversial choice, no question, and I'll explain why
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Speaker 2: in a moment. But the Democrats brought this on themselves
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Speaker 2: when they decided to weaponize the Justice Department, when they
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Speaker 2: decided to use lawfare to put their political opponents in
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Speaker 2: prison to try take out a candidate in a Democratic
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Speaker 2: presidential election. Well, how did they expect that the Republicans
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Speaker 2: would react?
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Speaker 3: How did they.
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Speaker 2: Expect Trump would react when he personally faced the prospect
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Speaker 2: of prison receiving different treatment to Joe Biden, even when
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Speaker 2: the alleged crime was exactly the same, and we saw
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Speaker 2: that with a classified document's case. Now Trump feels the
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Speaker 2: weaponization of the justice system more acutely than anyone.
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Speaker 3: Steve Bannon, Pete Navarro. They already went to prison.
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Speaker 2: So this explains Trump putting Gates in as Attorney General. Now,
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Speaker 2: Gates has plenty of enemies, especially on his side of
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Speaker 2: the aisle, but the left are particularly fired up about this.
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Speaker 8: Have a look, well, Katie, I've gotten two different texts
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Speaker 8: from different people at the Justice Department who just use
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Speaker 8: the word insane to respond and react to this potential appointment.
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Speaker 9: Heads are also exploding at the Justice Department because this
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Speaker 9: goes against the kind of candidate, Republican or Democrat, that
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Speaker 9: the DOJ sees as an appropriate candidate.
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Speaker 5: And this is making everyone's head explode right now.
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Speaker 9: We're all watching and I'm sure I'll love a lot
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Speaker 9: more opinions on that.
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Speaker 2: Gates is so provocative that he makes Trump look diplomatic.
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Speaker 2: Here's what he's said about women attending abortion rallies. Is
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Speaker 2: it seem to see that based off of your comments,
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Speaker 2: you're suggesting that these women at these abortion rallies are
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Speaker 2: ugly and overwee yes, what do you see to people who.
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Speaker 3: Think that those comments are offensive be offended.
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Speaker 2: He's often called a fire brand politician and a flamethrower,
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Speaker 2: and he'd be America's top lawmaker. But he was also
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Speaker 2: the subject of a federal probe into allegations he violated
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Speaker 2: sex trafficking laws with paid escorts on a trip to
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Speaker 2: the Bahamas. And there's yet another investigation by the House
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Speaker 2: Ethics Committee into allegations of sexual misconduct, illicit drug use,
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Speaker 2: and misuse of campaign funds. Now nothing has been proven
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Speaker 2: and he's denied all of these allegations. Gates has previously
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Speaker 2: suggested he could be Attorney General, but he kind of
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Speaker 2: joked about it.
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Speaker 10: We go take the White House back and you never know,
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Speaker 10: David and maybe an Attorney General mac Eates down the
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Speaker 10: road or someone a lie liking who will be there
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Speaker 10: to actually enforce the law and provide the accountability, not
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Speaker 10: just the vision, but the actual accountability. The people that
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Speaker 10: are sending you those messages deserve that in a free
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Speaker 10: and justin constitutional republic.
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Speaker 2: And that was last year, not last week. But it's
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Speaker 2: no laughing matter. Now he will be the new attorney general.
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Speaker 2: The question is will he end the political law fair
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Speaker 2: of the justice system, or will he seek revenge and
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Speaker 2: use the same tactics against the Democrats that they used
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Speaker 2: against Team Trump.
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Speaker 3: And if Gates goes for that.
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Speaker 2: Second option, he could relaunch investigations and prosecutions into Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 2: even Anthony Faunci. It's no wonder Washington is so worried.
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Speaker 2: Now another key Trump appointment Fox News host Pete Hegseth.
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Speaker 3: He's going to be the new Secretary of Defense.
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Speaker 2: This is the role that Mike Pompeo had been widely
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Speaker 2: tipped for.
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Speaker 3: Now heg Seth.
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Speaker 2: He's much younger, but he is a two times Bronze
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Speaker 2: Star recipient. He's got twenty years of military service. He
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Speaker 2: studied at both Princeton and Harvard. Now, in Defense, heg
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Speaker 2: Seth will be making sure that America is match fit
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Speaker 2: against an increasingly aggressive China.
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Speaker 11: China's building an army specifically dedicated to defeating the United
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Speaker 11: States of America.
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Speaker 2: Now, as you've already heard, Pete is also more. He
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Speaker 2: was also a Fox News host and he was reporting
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Speaker 2: live on the US election.
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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, I've been to a lot of Trump rallies.
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Speaker 1: There's Trump rallies and then there's this one.
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Speaker 6: So we'll continue to monitor the crowd.
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Speaker 12: It's bid.
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Speaker 2: Just a couple of months later, he'll be the Secretary
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Speaker 2: for Defense.
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Speaker 3: It's an amazing world, isn't it.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 2: John Ratcliffe will be the new director of the CIA.
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Speaker 3: He was the Director of the.
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Speaker 2: Office of National Intelligence in the last Trump administration, so
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Speaker 2: he was in charge of eighteen intelligence agencies. But he
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Speaker 2: had a key role when he was in charge of
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Speaker 2: the intelligence agencies. I interviewed him about the origins of
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Speaker 2: COVID and he said that all of the top secret
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Speaker 2: intelligence on this topic should be declassified.
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Speaker 11: The people that had the most access to the most
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Speaker 11: intelligence are telling you that the most likely origin of
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Speaker 11: COVID nineteen of the Wuhan virus was what happened was
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Speaker 11: a lab league at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. There
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Speaker 11: is more intelligence out there, and I'd like to see
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Speaker 11: it declassified.
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Speaker 2: That was from our Sky News Wuhan documentary.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: I have high.
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Speaker 2: Hopes that when he is CIA director, he'll do exactly
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Speaker 2: that and declassify the intelligence and hopefully we'll find out
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Speaker 2: more information about how the pandemic started inside the Wuhan
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Speaker 2: Institute of Virology. Another strong Trump appointment Marco Rubio, he'll
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Speaker 2: be the new Secretary of State. He's rock solid on China,
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Speaker 2: on Israel, and on foreign policy. And here's what he
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Speaker 2: said about the origins of COVID. Start to conclude here
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Speaker 2: that in fact this probably was a lab leak accident.
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Speaker 1: Someone got infected.
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Speaker 2: It now has spread across the world and at the
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Speaker 2: talitarian communist government in China doesn't want the world to
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Speaker 2: know about it. And here's Marco Rubio speaking about hamas
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Speaker 2: in Rubio.
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Speaker 1: Will you conference on the contrary? I want you guys
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Speaker 1: to get this.
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Speaker 2: I want them to destroy every element of ha Master
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Speaker 2: they can get their hands on. These people are vicious
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Speaker 2: animals who did horrifying crimes. Now Trump announced America's ambassador
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Speaker 2: to Israel as one of his earliest appointments. It's a
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Speaker 2: signal that the decision is important, the relationship is important.
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Speaker 2: Mike Huckabee, Well, I have to say he makes me
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Speaker 2: look soft on Israel because have a look at what
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Speaker 2: he's had to say about the West Bank and settlements.
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Speaker 13: I think Israel has titled eat to Judea and Samaria.
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Speaker 13: There are certain words I refuse to use. There is
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Speaker 13: no such thing as a West Bank it's Judea and Samaria.
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Speaker 13: There's no such thing as a settlement, their communities, their neighborhoods,
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Speaker 13: their cities. There's no such thing as an occupation.
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Speaker 2: Now this all comes as Trump met with Biden today
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Speaker 2: in the White House, and many have noticed that. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's the happiest the current president has looked in a
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Speaker 2: long time.
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Speaker 14: Congratulation, Thank you, and I'm looking forward to having like
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Speaker 14: we said, it's doo with transition to everything.
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Speaker 1: We can make sure you're accommodated what you need.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps he was one of those quiet Maga voters after all.
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Speaker 2: Now on the Middle East, Trump's election night victory and
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Speaker 2: strong appointments are already having the desired effect. Iran has
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Speaker 2: reportedly backed down, saying it's not going to retaliate a
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Speaker 2: gay against Israel, and as we'll hear tonight from the
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Speaker 2: speaker of the Israeli Parliament, there's now hopes that Israel's
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Speaker 2: normalization agreement with Saudi Arabia could go ahead within weeks.
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Speaker 2: Both sides are kein to get it back on track.
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Speaker 2: It was about to happen before October seven. It's at
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Speaker 2: least part of the reason for those Iranian backed terror
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Speaker 2: attacks but I interviewed the speaker, Emir o'hanna. He says
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Speaker 2: it could happen before Trump takes office. He explains why
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Speaker 2: I have a quick look.
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Speaker 12: To achieve a defense treaty between Saudi Arabia and America,
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Speaker 12: they will need to get a majority, a wide majority,
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Speaker 12: two thirds majority. So that could only happen if some
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Speaker 12: of the Republican Party currently sitting in the House and
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Speaker 12: all of the Democratic Party will vote for We know
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Speaker 12: it's a possibility, but we assume that during President Trump's administration,
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Speaker 12: which vis a vis Israel and US relations are expected
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Speaker 12: to be the Golden Age, but it will be more
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Speaker 12: tough to bring two thirds of the House, So we
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Speaker 12: hope we can achieve it as soon as possible.
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Speaker 2: That's a big exclusive. That full interview coming up. But
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Speaker 2: if Israel and the United States can pull off normalizing
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Speaker 2: relations with Saudi Arabia and potentially other Arab nations, well
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Speaker 2: this is the best pathway to peace for Israel. This
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Speaker 2: should be news that the Democrats and the mainstream media
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Speaker 2: are welcoming. Instead we're just seeing a meltdown at the
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Speaker 2: Trump effect. Okay, a lot to come on the show.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in now National Senator Matt Canavan and commentator
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Speaker 2: Jason Morrison.
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Speaker 3: Great to see you both.
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Speaker 2: Matt, I want to get your reaction to Trump's appointments.
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Speaker 3: I know you follow them more closely. What do you
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Speaker 3: think of his key pick so far?
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Speaker 15: Well, definitely shaking things up, Sharhi, and I think you've
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Speaker 15: summed it up well that when you set off a whirlwind,
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Speaker 15: you know it's going to come back at you, and
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Speaker 15: that's what's happened here.
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Speaker 12: I think.
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Speaker 15: Look, I'm happy to give everybody a go. I think
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Speaker 15: there's obviously a big mess to clean up over there.
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Speaker 15: It's been a shocking four years in the United States
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Speaker 15: on the economic front, on the geopolitical front, and yes,
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Speaker 15: on the lawfare front as well. I've spoken in Parliament
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Speaker 15: myself how I am very sad and to see what
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Speaker 15: are in effect political prisoners in the US and the
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Speaker 15: likes of Peter Navarro and Steve Bannon, who are fortunately
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Speaker 15: now released from jail. Certainly many of the people that
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Speaker 15: went away for walking through the Capitol Building on January
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Speaker 15: sixth seem hard to explain to the word. There were
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Speaker 15: some that were engaged in violent and destructive conduct, and
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Speaker 15: they seemingly deserved to be sanctioned, but others just seemingly
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Speaker 15: walked in and you've got grandmas and others being chased
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Speaker 15: down rated locked up. It's just remarkable. So I'm able
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Speaker 15: to give all of these guys a go to clean
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Speaker 15: up this mess. So I hope it doesn't end up
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Speaker 15: in a spiral of political tit for tat in the
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Speaker 15: United States, because we need a stable United States is
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Speaker 15: a strong partner in our region. Let's hope they can.
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Speaker 14: Clean it up.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason, there will be the temptation to seek revenge
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Speaker 2: through the courts and some of their political enemies, and
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Speaker 2: you know where it's justified, show where there's a strong
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Speaker 2: case for it. But if not, wouldn't it be more
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Speaker 2: sensible to try remove politics from the justice system like
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Speaker 2: in Australia.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, something that Americans would be shocked that
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Speaker 6: someone wouldn't go into.
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Speaker 1: Politics for revenge.
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Speaker 6: I don't think there's necessarily a track record in Trump's
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Speaker 6: history to date the shows that he goes in to.
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Speaker 1: Square up scores.
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Speaker 6: In fact, as much as you should, because God, they
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Speaker 6: went after him. The temptation will be there, and probably
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Speaker 6: people in the administration will be saying go do it,
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Speaker 6: but you've got to hit a reset button, because people
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Speaker 6: voted for a reset button.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what's so interesting.
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Speaker 6: About these selections is that we didn't vote for the
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Speaker 6: same old in America. If I can use the collective
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Speaker 6: we people over there, they voted for a change. They
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Speaker 6: voted for a different way. It was in all the ads,
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Speaker 6: you know, vote for President Trump for a different way,
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Speaker 6: a different approach. A different way is not doing what
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Speaker 6: everyone's always done.
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Speaker 1: And as much as it's really.
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Speaker 6: Easy for you know a lot of the clowns that
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Speaker 6: you just showed in those clips there that were criticizing
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Speaker 6: Trump's decisions and his appointments, the American people wanted that
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Speaker 6: reset button hit, and they wanted patriots, and they wanted
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Speaker 6: people who actually were prepared to challenge.
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Speaker 1: The assumptions to come back.
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Speaker 6: So, you know, to answer your question specifically, I really
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Speaker 6: hope that they don't go and seek revenge, but gee,
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Speaker 6: it must be tempting. I mean, they did everything to
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Speaker 6: that guy, right down to extrajudicial powers beyond the criminal
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Speaker 6: and then got the assassination.
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Speaker 1: Who will ever know the truth about what that was about?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, indeed, some one more thing too.
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Speaker 15: These appointments also, to my mind, show up the limits
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Speaker 15: of the Albanesi governments diplomatica outreach. From reports, it would
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Speaker 15: seem that their outreach the Trump campaign amounted to meeting
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Speaker 15: with Mike Pompeo about twelve months ago, and he's missed
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Speaker 15: out of course, and that's not making any commentary on Mike,
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Speaker 15: but it was clear to anybody watching this that there
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Speaker 15: was a very strong chance at Donald Trump's next term,
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Speaker 15: if there were to be a next term at the time,
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Speaker 15: would be very different from the first term. He could
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Speaker 15: staff his organization with very different people. We've got the
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Speaker 15: likes of Tulsy Gabbart, former Democrat today announced as well.
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Speaker 15: And it would seem that Penny Wong and Anthey Aberinezi
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Speaker 15: have been found completely flat footed here and just simply
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Speaker 15: haven't done the groundwork to build relationships with different elements
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Speaker 15: of the Trump world, and that's possibly going to cost
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Speaker 15: us in the long term as a company.
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Speaker 2: And exactly not only haven't they built the relationships, but
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Speaker 2: we're seeing Elon Musk appear as one of the most
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Speaker 2: influential figures so far with Donald Trump himself, and Albinizi
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Speaker 2: has gone out of his way to smash Elon Musk.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's held prefer press conferences about Elon Musk.
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Speaker 3: So you know, none of this is a good sign.
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Speaker 2: And you look at them, they couldn't be able to
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Speaker 2: I've made a lot of comments about this, but you
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Speaker 2: couldn't get two different people, two different values or ideology,
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Speaker 2: ideologies or policies. Then we will see under under Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump then Albanezi, We've been talking about Kevin right now
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Speaker 2: for two weeks.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to get too stuck into the weeds again.
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Speaker 2: But Peter Dartin did comment about this today and he
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Speaker 2: said that, well, if Albaneze has to dismiss Kevin rd over,
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Speaker 2: you know, his many insults over several years.
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Speaker 3: Well then he may also have to fire Penny and
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Speaker 3: even himself. Have a look at what Dudden had to say.
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Speaker 16: Well, I guess the difficulty that the Prime Minister's in
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Speaker 16: at the moment is that if he sacks Kevin Rudd,
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Speaker 16: then what does he do with Penny Wong? And if
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Speaker 16: he sacks Penny Wong, what does he do given he's
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Speaker 16: made his own disparaging remarks about President Elect Trump as well.
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Speaker 16: And look that these are issues for the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 3: And then of course there was Chris Bowen.
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Speaker 2: He said, I reported this the other night that Trump
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Speaker 2: was the worst president in the United States history. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Jason Peter Dutten has a point. The entire government that
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Speaker 2: has lashed out at Trump.
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Speaker 1: Which is why they can't sack him. They can't sack Rudd.
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Speaker 6: Right has to do, if it's possible, a classy thing,
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Speaker 6: if it's possible, and that is to recognize that his
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Speaker 6: nation's needs outweigh his own ambitions and perhaps just show
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Speaker 6: us that you're bigger than Jess your ego, Kevin.
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Speaker 1: And step aside and step back.
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Speaker 6: I mean I saw reports on Sky today that they've
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Speaker 6: been reaching to Scott Morris and to ask Scott Morrison
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Speaker 6: for assistance. Well, I mean there's a novel idea someone
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Speaker 6: who actually does have contacts with the Trump administration.
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Speaker 1: That was two nights about Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
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Speaker 1: it's it is.
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Speaker 6: It is remarkable that you've got these resources and let's
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Speaker 6: call them that for a second. I mean, because people
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Speaker 6: will obviously have a political view about whether Scott Morrison
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Speaker 6: can work with the government or whatever else. I mean, fundamentally,
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Speaker 6: you would hope people who are ambassadors for the country.
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Speaker 1: Are patriots not partisans.
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Speaker 6: You would hope that they would be doing the best
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Speaker 6: thing in the best interest for the country. And I
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Speaker 6: would hope that the Australian government right now could look
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Speaker 6: and say, yeah, Okay, Scott Morrison, we might have defeated
20:39
Speaker 6: him in et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, but he's
20:41
Speaker 6: got an in with with Trump and he's got an
20:43
Speaker 6: in with people over there, and this is what we
20:45
Speaker 6: should be doing. And it amazes me that we're two
20:48
Speaker 6: weeks down the track and we're still waiting for Kevin
20:51
Speaker 6: to do something that's good for the nation on this front.
20:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I broke that story that they would draft
20:57
Speaker 2: that Kevin rud was drafting in Scomo on Tuesday nights.
21:00
Speaker 2: But Matt, isn't that embarrassing that the Albanezi government has
21:04
Speaker 2: to appeal to Scott Morrison's best interests to try and
21:10
Speaker 2: help them forge ties with the Trump administration given how
21:13
Speaker 2: hard they went after Scott Morrison, personally blaming him effectively
21:18
Speaker 2: for Britney Higgins rape.
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Speaker 15: Well, look, Charie, is it is embarrassing for the Albanezi
21:25
Speaker 15: government that they've been caught out like this unprepared, unexpected.
21:30
Speaker 15: They should have expected it. It's not the first time
21:33
Speaker 15: they've been in this sort of situation. But look at
21:36
Speaker 15: the same time, in this situation, I think you've got
21:38
Speaker 15: to put any sort of self reflections aside and do
21:45
Speaker 15: what's best for the country. And so what is best
21:47
Speaker 15: for the country was best for Australia is that we
21:49
Speaker 15: work together to re establish what is now a rocky
21:53
Speaker 15: relationship with the United States because of the unwise and
21:56
Speaker 15: personal insults from very senior Albanezi government ministers. So I've
21:59
Speaker 15: said on your show before I said it. I think
22:01
Speaker 15: I said it when Steve Bannon came out and criticized
22:03
Speaker 15: Kevin Runner yeargo, I'm happy to help no one's but
22:05
Speaker 15: no one's reached out. I mean, they seem to have
22:07
Speaker 15: reached out with Scott Morrison, but I actually think maybe
22:09
Speaker 15: there's a need here for Anthony albin Ezi to convene
22:11
Speaker 15: across party delegation over to the over to d C
22:16
Speaker 15: where some of us that might be able to open
22:18
Speaker 15: a few doors, and some of us like you and
22:20
Speaker 15: I Sharow who've been on the war room, who spoke
22:23
Speaker 15: to Steve Bannon. I mean, when I went on the
22:25
Speaker 15: war Room show. I had senators that that fool Senator
22:28
Speaker 15: Tim Ayres get up and just pants Steve Banner and
22:31
Speaker 15: E's tin fall hat wearing all this rubbish. I mean,
22:33
Speaker 15: all that's on the record. You know, I try and
22:36
Speaker 15: limit my creditscrats in the US. I'd be very diplomatic
22:39
Speaker 15: about it because of course, you know, you never know
22:42
Speaker 15: what you're going to get. So I think, you know,
22:44
Speaker 15: they need to reach out across the aisle. They might
22:46
Speaker 15: be embarrassed about it, but we've got to put Australia first.
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Speaker 2: There's a senior journalist at the Australian newspaper who said
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Speaker 2: he wasn't coming on my program again because I had
22:54
Speaker 2: interviewed Steve Bannett, And you know, I think that's just
22:57
Speaker 2: such a misunderstanding. But that shows the adage of labor
23:01
Speaker 2: leaning journalists and politicians towards the Trump administration and the
23:06
Speaker 2: Team Trump, because you know, as a journalist you deal
23:09
Speaker 2: with everybody you and as politicians you need to forge
23:12
Speaker 2: ties with everybody as well. Otherwise you're left in a
23:16
Speaker 2: position like this where Kevin Right and the Albanezy government,
23:19
Speaker 2: you know, don't know if they're going to be able
23:21
Speaker 2: to have Australia be exempt from those ten percent tariffs.
23:24
Speaker 2: This is that's an issue that affects businesses, families, farmers
23:28
Speaker 2: across the country.
23:30
Speaker 3: Now, just before we go with well.
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Speaker 6: That's senior journalists from the Australian go on the ABC.
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Speaker 1: I mean that'd be an issue.
23:37
Speaker 3: I'm sure he does all the time.
23:38
Speaker 1: I know which one's doing more damage to the country
23:40
Speaker 1: than you.
23:41
Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about this superannuation story. It's been big news,
23:45
Speaker 2: front page now for two days in a row. The
23:48
Speaker 2: Corporate watchdog says the shocking treatment of vulnerable customers from
23:52
Speaker 2: super funds is a systemic failure. So ASIK is now
23:56
Speaker 2: vowing to protect Australians over the next twelve months. It's
23:59
Speaker 2: launch regulatory intervention, cracking down on exploitative behavior.
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Speaker 3: Here's what they said.
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Speaker 17: I think it's fair to say that we do think
24:08
Speaker 17: this is a broader industry issue. So we are at
24:12
Speaker 17: the moment doing a deep dive surveillance of superannuation trustees
24:17
Speaker 17: handling of death benefits claims. More broadly, we are going
24:21
Speaker 17: to be writing to the CEOs of superannuation trustees shortly
24:25
Speaker 17: to really put them on notice as to what we
24:27
Speaker 17: are seeing and our concerns about that. We're going to
24:30
Speaker 17: be putting out a detailed.
24:31
Speaker 5: Report early in the new year that really.
24:34
Speaker 17: Sets out the work that we are doing, and we
24:37
Speaker 17: may well have further enforcement action to follow.
24:41
Speaker 2: So Jason the regulator took sabuster COT on Tuesday over
24:46
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars O to members. A lot of labor
24:49
Speaker 2: links here as well. This is a big story.
24:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't you just travel When you hear our six speak,
24:57
Speaker 6: I mean, they're just in there fighting these institutions. I
25:00
Speaker 6: think a lot of the time, you know, a lot
25:02
Speaker 6: of arms of government forget they are there for the people,
25:06
Speaker 6: not for the institutions. And when I hear the kind
25:10
Speaker 6: of way in which this is enforced and the speed
25:12
Speaker 6: in which it happens, when you think that, you know,
25:16
Speaker 6: we chuck ten percent of our pay more than that
25:18
Speaker 6: now into super every week every fortnight, and we pay
25:22
Speaker 6: these insurance policies and we expect that they will be there,
25:25
Speaker 6: and that most people have no idea how much they're
25:28
Speaker 6: super Fund is just waiting to f them over in
25:31
Speaker 6: the event that they ever need.
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Speaker 1: To call on it.
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Speaker 6: It is staggering and it amazes me that you know,
25:37
Speaker 6: these agencies just sort of waffle on like this is
25:41
Speaker 6: just something that can happen at the pace of reform
25:44
Speaker 6: actually action it needs. There are people sitting there dying
25:47
Speaker 6: for this money, quite literally dying for the money, and
25:50
Speaker 6: they can't get their hands on their super.
25:52
Speaker 3: It's a major scandal.
25:54
Speaker 2: Jason Morrison, Matt Canavan, Thank you both very much. Now
25:59
Speaker 2: let's get back to our top story, Donald Trump's key
26:02
Speaker 2: picks for his cabinet for his administration. And I'm joined
26:05
Speaker 2: now by National Review columnist John Fund. He's in Washington,
26:09
Speaker 2: DC as we speak. John, Thanks for your time. Look
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Speaker 2: what's your read on Trump's cabinet and particularly the most
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Speaker 2: controversial appointment today in Matt Gates.
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Speaker 14: Well, I think the cabinet picks have been very good
26:23
Speaker 14: until yesterday, and they were met with general surprise that
26:28
Speaker 14: Trump had picked qualified people who had a respect by
26:33
Speaker 14: their peers in their field. The latest picks, though, are bizarre.
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Speaker 14: I referring to the Secretary of Defense, the designators Pete Haigsith,
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Speaker 14: a Fox News commentator and military veteran, and then Matt Gates,
26:48
Speaker 14: who's a firebrand congressman from Florida. I know both of
26:52
Speaker 14: them personally, very friendly sorts, but they're not suited for purpose. Gates,
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Speaker 14: it has just been revealed, has resigned from Congress in
27:04
Speaker 14: order to avoid the publication of a damning ethics report
27:09
Speaker 14: regarding his personal life, possible as a drug use, possible
27:14
Speaker 14: conflicts of interest. And it strikes me that this would
27:18
Speaker 14: be the first time that someone has been appointed Attorney
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Speaker 14: General who until very recently has been under active investigation
27:25
Speaker 14: by the Justice Department that he is supposed to lead.
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Speaker 14: It strikes me that this is a colossal error. It
27:32
Speaker 14: will not stand. Matt Gates is not going to be confirmed,
27:35
Speaker 14: and in fact, I suspect that he's going to be
27:37
Speaker 14: forced to withdraw.
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Speaker 3: That's fascinating.
27:39
Speaker 2: So when you say you don't think you'll be confirmed,
27:41
Speaker 2: do you think there are going to be senior Republicans
27:44
Speaker 2: who oppose this?
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Speaker 14: There already are. They may not have announced publicly, but
27:49
Speaker 14: I know of at least one Republican who is not
27:51
Speaker 14: a moderate, who has said this is not happening. And remember,
27:57
Speaker 14: the Republicans do have a majority in the new Senate
27:59
Speaker 14: of fifty three to forty seven. But that means if
28:02
Speaker 14: for Republican senators and there will be no Democrats supporting
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Speaker 14: Matt Gates. If four Republican senators say this is too
28:08
Speaker 14: much for us to bear, Matt Gates is not going
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Speaker 14: to be confirmed.
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Speaker 2: Even if there are Republicans who absolutely despise him, and
28:17
Speaker 2: I've already said tonight, he definitely has his enemies.
28:19
Speaker 3: You know, he led that coup about was it a
28:21
Speaker 3: year ago?
28:22
Speaker 2: But even if that's the case, surely they would say, well,
28:26
Speaker 2: Trump has a mandate here, this is Trump's pick, will
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Speaker 2: go with it.
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Speaker 14: Well, if you look back through American history, I think
28:34
Speaker 14: almost every president has had at least one cabinet choice
28:39
Speaker 14: that ended up on the reef, the rocks and sank.
28:44
Speaker 14: I can't think of anyone that would be an exception.
28:47
Speaker 14: So I think almost all of Trump's picks are going
28:50
Speaker 14: to go through. But if you follow historical president someone
28:55
Speaker 14: is going to be left behind.
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Speaker 2: I've also noticed that it's a very young habet, a
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Speaker 2: lot of people in their early forties. I mean, do
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Speaker 2: you think this is a good thing to have that
29:05
Speaker 2: generational change come through, because mostly so far it's been
29:09
Speaker 2: a lot of I don't want to say elderly, but
29:12
Speaker 2: older people in very senior roles under the Biden administration.
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Speaker 14: Well, I wouldn't say elderly, I would say in some
29:19
Speaker 14: cases perhaps senile.
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Speaker 2: Yes, well, we'd agree with you there.
29:26
Speaker 14: We had the greatest generation that fought World War Two.
29:30
Speaker 14: What we had in power until very recently in Washington
29:32
Speaker 14: were the Boomers, and the Boomers have not covered themselves
29:36
Speaker 14: in glory as a generation. And yet we had Nancy Pelosi,
29:41
Speaker 14: we had Bernie Sanders, we had Donald Trump, we had
29:45
Speaker 14: Joe Biden, we had Mitch McConnell, and all of them
29:48
Speaker 14: were past their shelf by date easily.
29:53
Speaker 2: We saw those pictures today of Trump going to the
29:56
Speaker 2: White House sitting down with Joe Biden and Missus Biden.
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Speaker 3: Millenia didn't attend.
30:03
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people have commented on just
30:05
Speaker 2: how kind of happy Joe Biden looked.
30:07
Speaker 3: He was smiling, he was relaxed.
30:10
Speaker 2: Do you think, and we've heard the reports as well
30:13
Speaker 2: that the Biden camp and the Kamala Harris camp there
30:16
Speaker 2: were a lot of tensions in the final weeks of
30:18
Speaker 2: the campaigns, and do you think Biden was silently rejoicing
30:21
Speaker 2: that Trump won.
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Speaker 14: I wouldn't go that far, but notice that you have
30:26
Speaker 14: footage of Donald Trump meeting with Joe Biden. Where's the
30:30
Speaker 14: footage of the last meeting between Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.
30:35
Speaker 14: It's not to be found. Look, Joe Biden cannot help
30:40
Speaker 14: but resent the fact that he thought he was the
30:42
Speaker 14: only Democrat who could meet Donald Trump. He had been
30:46
Speaker 14: the only Democrat whoever defeated Donald Trump, and he was
30:49
Speaker 14: cast aside by his own party in favor of his
30:51
Speaker 14: vice president. He must view that as a disloyal act
30:55
Speaker 14: of some kind, and he was basically ignored and shunted
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Speaker 14: aside the campaign trail. And I can understand the reasons why,
31:02
Speaker 14: for all, Joe Biden be that infamous garbage contment, which
31:06
Speaker 14: I think certainly would have hurt Kamala Harris. I think
31:11
Speaker 14: he leaves with very mixed feelings, but probably relief, because
31:17
Speaker 14: all you have to do is look at Joe Biden
31:18
Speaker 14: and realize that it must be a taxing, tiring time
31:22
Speaker 14: to be president right now for all.
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Speaker 2: Right, John Finder, great to have you with us from Washington.
31:27
Speaker 2: Thank you now.
31:29
Speaker 3: Still to come.
31:29
Speaker 2: Albanezi has gone down in the estimation of more than
31:32
Speaker 2: a third of Australians after the Quantus upgrade scandal. I'm
31:36
Speaker 2: going to speak about this with Kelly Sloan and Jemma
31:38
Speaker 2: Tognini plus our major exclusive. A senior Israeli politician reveals
31:44
Speaker 2: the push for the Saudi deal to go ahead while
31:47
Speaker 2: Biden is president. He also lashes the Albanesi government over
31:50
Speaker 2: their move today to recognize Palestinian sovereignty.
31:54
Speaker 3: Huge show, don't go anywhere, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albinizi and Penny Wog have changed Australia's vote at
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Speaker 2: the United Nations to recognize the permanent sovereignty of Palestinian territories. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is completely out of step with both the Biden
32:14
Speaker 2: and the incoming Trump administrations on Israel. But this is
32:18
Speaker 2: also a major betrayal to Israel and there is no
32:23
Speaker 2: reason for Australia to do this. There have been no
32:26
Speaker 2: moves by any Palestinian leadership to return the one one
32:30
Speaker 2: hundred and one hostages who have been held captive for
32:34
Speaker 2: over four hundred days, including a baby and his four
32:39
Speaker 2: year old brother, Baby Kafir. They haven't agreed to any
32:43
Speaker 2: of the numerous cease fire deals that Israel has sat
32:46
Speaker 2: down with. They haven't agreed to lay down their weapons.
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Speaker 2: So who exactly does Penny Wang want to lead the Palestinians.
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Speaker 3: Humus is this who she wants to give recognition to.
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Speaker 3: It's utter nonsense, it's illogical.
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Speaker 2: Former Foreign Minister Alexander down I had some advice for
33:04
Speaker 2: her on Chris Kenny Show a little earlier.
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Speaker 18: If I were in government today, therefore, I could give
33:11
Speaker 18: a bit of advice to Penny Wong and the Labor government,
33:15
Speaker 18: I would think about drafting a resolution which demanded that
33:19
Speaker 18: Hamas hand over the one hundred or so hostages that
33:22
Speaker 18: they're still holding and sees a tax on Israel.
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Speaker 3: He's completely right.
33:29
Speaker 2: This move by the Albanezi government is pure politics. It's
33:32
Speaker 2: just about the marginal seats they want.
33:34
Speaker 3: To win over.
33:35
Speaker 2: It's got nothing to do with peace. It only rewards
33:39
Speaker 2: the terrorism of October seven. Now, I spoke with a
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Speaker 2: senior Israeli politician about.
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Speaker 3: This a little earlier.
33:47
Speaker 2: Speaker of the King, I said, Emir Khana, thank you
33:49
Speaker 2: very much for coming on the program.
33:52
Speaker 12: Good evening, Sheriff from the Eternal capital of the Jewish people.
33:55
Speaker 12: Good to be with you.
33:57
Speaker 2: What's your reaction to the breaking news today that the
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Speaker 2: Albanezy government here in Australia has changed its position to
34:05
Speaker 2: recognize Palestinian sovereignty at the United Nations.
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Speaker 12: It is very unfortunate in counterproductive. I hosted recently another
34:14
Speaker 12: foreign minister and he told me that they considered to
34:18
Speaker 12: recognize the Palacey in the state as well. I told him,
34:21
Speaker 12: it is a great idea if you want to reward
34:24
Speaker 12: Hamas for the autrocities of October seventh. It is the
34:27
Speaker 12: perfect idea if you want to send a clear message
34:30
Speaker 12: to the entire terrorist organizations throughout the world that this
34:34
Speaker 12: is how to get the job done and to get
34:37
Speaker 12: their goals. Of course, the debate over the two so
34:42
Speaker 12: called two state solutions was a very live debate before
34:46
Speaker 12: October seventh. Following October seventh, and as long as we
34:50
Speaker 12: have our one hundred and one hostages still held in
34:53
Speaker 12: captivity by Hamas, as long as we have tens of
34:56
Speaker 12: thousands of displaced civilians threatened by Khzbala and other organizations,
35:01
Speaker 12: it is a non debate here in Israel. It's very
35:04
Speaker 12: clear that it will only reward Hamas for the atrocities,
35:09
Speaker 12: which is unthinkable. So I hope that this notion, this
35:14
Speaker 12: idea will soon get off the table.
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Speaker 2: It's not even clear who would lead the Palestinian TERRITORIESM
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Speaker 2: and it can't be harmas.
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Speaker 3: That's for shore. If the international community were actually.
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Speaker 2: Serious about peace, they might put forward emotion of resolution
35:31
Speaker 2: that would demand the return of the hostages. But you know,
35:34
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like they're as serious about peace as
35:36
Speaker 2: they are about rewarding terrorism.
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Speaker 3: O Hannah.
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Speaker 12: Indeed, indeed, unfortunately, we see a vast majority amongst the
35:46
Speaker 12: Palestinian people supporting Hamas and supporting October seventh atrocities, and
35:53
Speaker 12: it goes bored to board, you know, to both sides
35:57
Speaker 12: of the Aisle Plo Fata and the Hamas. Unfortunately, this
36:03
Speaker 12: is the case, and this is what we have to
36:05
Speaker 12: live with. But we will fight. We will continue to
36:09
Speaker 12: fight until we return safety and security to the entire
36:12
Speaker 12: civilians of Israel. Let me remind you that on October six,
36:17
Speaker 12: children were sleeping in their beds in Gaza peacefully. No
36:20
Speaker 12: one was after them, no one was after the people
36:25
Speaker 12: of Gaza. And unfortunately Hamas broke that silence on October seventh.
36:30
Speaker 12: And now we don't have the luxury to follow in
36:32
Speaker 12: grief and pain. We need to fight, That's what we do.
36:36
Speaker 2: Israel and Saudi Arabia were close to normalizing relations prior
36:41
Speaker 2: to October seven. Many say this is part of the
36:44
Speaker 2: reason that Iran encouraged the attacks by Hamas. When I
36:48
Speaker 2: met with your Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo, he said,
36:51
Speaker 2: and he used the word determined. He said, he was
36:53
Speaker 2: determined to get this done, this deal with Saudi Arabia
36:58
Speaker 2: as a pathway to peace. Are you hopeful that this
37:02
Speaker 2: could happen while Joe Biden is still president?
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Speaker 12: Absolutely. Let me tell you, I think that the Iran
37:10
Speaker 12: is not only Israel's enemy, or rather, should we be
37:13
Speaker 12: more precise, the Aetola regime of Iran. It's not the
37:15
Speaker 12: Iranian people, but they are enemies of peace. We were
37:20
Speaker 12: on the verge, as you said, of expanding the circle
37:22
Speaker 12: of peace. I was fortunate enough to be a minister
37:25
Speaker 12: in the government that signed the Abraham Accords with the
37:28
Speaker 12: first Trump administration and four Arab countries, one of which
37:33
Speaker 12: is the country where both my parents were born and raised, Morocco.
37:36
Speaker 12: I was hosted by my counterpart, the Moroccan head of Parliament,
37:41
Speaker 12: and that was a very significant thing. And we were
37:45
Speaker 12: on the verge of expanding the circle of peace even further,
37:48
Speaker 12: which Amas was trying to stop on October seventh, But
37:53
Speaker 12: as you said, Prime Minister, and the State of Israel
37:56
Speaker 12: is very determined to expand the circle of peace without
37:59
Speaker 12: the Arabi is definitely one of the most maybe the
38:02
Speaker 12: most important country in the Arab world. So it's a
38:06
Speaker 12: goal worth achieving.
38:09
Speaker 3: Just in terms of the timing, how soon could this happen.
38:14
Speaker 12: Well, to achieve a defense treaty between Saudi Arabia and America,
38:23
Speaker 12: they will need to get a majority, a wide majority,
38:27
Speaker 12: two thirds majority. So that could only happen if some
38:34
Speaker 12: of the Republican Party currently sitting in the House and
38:39
Speaker 12: all of the Democratic Party will vote for We know
38:46
Speaker 12: it's a possibility, but we assume that during President Trump's administration,
38:53
Speaker 12: which vis a vis Israel and US relations are expected
38:58
Speaker 12: to be the Golden Age, but it will be more
39:01
Speaker 12: tough to bring two thirds of the House. So we
39:05
Speaker 12: hope we can achieve it as soon as possible. But
39:08
Speaker 12: let me tell you that even if there will not
39:11
Speaker 12: be a peace treaty between Saudi Arabia and America, I
39:15
Speaker 12: think we can reach understandings that could be very fruitful
39:20
Speaker 12: and bring us closer together, even to a normalization and
39:25
Speaker 12: a peace agreement.
39:27
Speaker 2: But if there was to be a formal peace treaty
39:29
Speaker 2: if it was to go through the United States, as
39:33
Speaker 2: you just outlined. Are you hopeful that this could happen
39:37
Speaker 2: in the next two months before Trump's inauguration.
39:42
Speaker 12: We hope it will happen as soon as possible, as
39:45
Speaker 12: as you said, we hoped it could happen more than
39:49
Speaker 12: a year ago. But we will never stop aspire for
39:55
Speaker 12: peace and extend our hands in peace to our entire
40:01
Speaker 12: neighborhood as we have done in the past. And we
40:04
Speaker 12: believe that, and I think that President Trump believes and
40:08
Speaker 12: understand that peace could come from strength from power, and
40:13
Speaker 12: this is what we are doing currently.
40:16
Speaker 2: Well, I'd love to get your reaction to some of
40:18
Speaker 2: Trump's key appointments so far. Mike hackeyby Elise Stephanick. Given
40:23
Speaker 2: we saw that Joy Biden did threaten to withhold weapons
40:27
Speaker 2: from Israel, and there were other ultimatums in recent times
40:30
Speaker 2: as well, is this a positive sign the appointments of
40:34
Speaker 2: Mike hockeyby in particular, of how the Trump administration is
40:37
Speaker 2: planning to cooperate with Israel.
40:41
Speaker 12: Absolutely. When I see the team that the Green Team,
40:44
Speaker 12: if I may say so, that President Tromp assembles, now
40:49
Speaker 12: these are the America relations. These are great friends of
40:54
Speaker 12: Israel throughout the years. I hosted the Elise recently and
40:57
Speaker 12: I congratulated her for or appointee as ambassador in the UN.
41:06
Speaker 12: And I'm looking forward to work with those great people,
41:09
Speaker 12: those great friends of the State of Israel, and i
41:14
Speaker 12: do believe that we are about to experience the golden
41:16
Speaker 12: age of US is relations.
41:19
Speaker 3: The golden age.
41:20
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope that will be the case, because Israel
41:23
Speaker 2: certainly needs friends on the international stage. At the moment,
41:27
Speaker 2: we're hearing, and it is just media reports, but we're
41:29
Speaker 2: hearing media reports today that Tehran may have decided not
41:34
Speaker 2: to retaliate against Israel after pressure from the United States,
41:39
Speaker 2: perhaps because of Donald Trump as incoming president. Are you
41:43
Speaker 2: hopeful that Iran might not retaliate again? Are you hopeful
41:47
Speaker 2: that these media reports will be accurate.
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Speaker 12: We have shown the Iotola regim of Iran that we
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Speaker 12: can act on Iranian soil, and we have put down
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Speaker 12: a decisive reaction to their texts upon us. If they
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Speaker 12: will do a mistake in harm Israeli once again and
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Speaker 12: shure that Israeli, they're going to get another decisive reaction,
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Speaker 12: right Emir Ocanna pleasure to have you on the show.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate your time.
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Speaker 12: Thank you, Sherry.
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Speaker 2: And after the break, Climate protest chaos, Extinction rebellion activists
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Speaker 2: block Melbourne roads causing mayhem. Kelly Sloane and Jemmy Tognini
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Speaker 2: will join me next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Well let's have a look at the climate protests today
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Speaker 2: in Melbourne because they shut down traffic. We've seen that
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Speaker 2: university students couldn't get to their exams or they were late.
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Speaker 3: It was absolute mayhem. Let's have a look.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is activists, Kelly yet again choosing the
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Speaker 2: disruptive time to commuters, to families, people trying to get
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Speaker 2: to work, get their kids to school. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: doesn't win anyone over.
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Speaker 19: Most people have zero sympathy for this kind of behavior.
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Speaker 19: People stopping people going to their exams, stopping people going
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Speaker 19: to work.
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Speaker 5: It reminds me a lot of the Rising.
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Speaker 19: Tide protesters that are stationed at Newcastle Port of Newcastle
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Speaker 19: at the moment doing exactly the same, who've been prohibited
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Speaker 19: from doing their protest by the Supreme Court. Yet today
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Speaker 19: the new South Wales Health Minister is quoted as saying, well,
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Speaker 19: if they're doing nothing wrong, then happy days. So we're
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Speaker 19: sending mixed messages to these people. They're idiots and they
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Speaker 19: should stop.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a terrible mixed message. What do you think, Jemma.
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Speaker 4: I think Australia is sick of them. I think people
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Speaker 4: are sick of them. We know in Melbourne recently a
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Speaker 4: judge overturned a softer center couple for an extended period
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Speaker 4: of time in jail.
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Speaker 5: More of that.
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Speaker 4: I say, this is the small squeaky wheel, crying emergency,
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Speaker 4: crying wolf and trying to impose this wild sort of
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Speaker 4: climate cold, you know, propaganda on the rest of us.
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Speaker 3: And think about the people who, as.
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Speaker 4: He said, university students can't go to their exams. In
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Speaker 4: the most extreme cases, people can't get to hospitals. Parents
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Speaker 4: got to get to the birth of their children. A
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Speaker 4: woman gave birth on the Balty Bridge. I think it
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Speaker 4: was protest before enough enough of this, I mean the
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Speaker 4: economic impact as well. You think at some point the
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Speaker 4: government should be able to move people on and say
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Speaker 4: this is the spot where you can protest, but not
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Speaker 4: shutting down traffic.
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Speaker 3: Now we've seen.
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Speaker 2: We all saw the Quantus freebie scandal. We all know
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Speaker 2: that it was not a good look for the prime minister.
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Speaker 2: Now surveys back that up thirty seven percent. Australians now
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Speaker 2: have a more negative opinion of Alban Easy over all
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Speaker 2: of this, Kelly, I think the perception is cementing that
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Speaker 2: he likes.
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Speaker 3: The high life, is in it for the perks.
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Speaker 5: I think it's that double standard.
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Speaker 19: He portrays himself as the working class prime minister, the
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Speaker 19: guy that got brought up by a single mom, and
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Speaker 19: then he, on the other hand, buys a beach house,
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Speaker 19: you know, in the eve of election, but also then
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Speaker 19: equivocate so over whether he did or did not ring
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Speaker 19: Alan Joyce took him six days, right, So people say
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Speaker 19: you know what you don't I don't know that I
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Speaker 19: trust what you're saying. And that's the problem. It's a
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Speaker 19: trust deficit. So most people are reasonable. Thirty six percent said, look,
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Speaker 19: if politicians get a flight up grade, fine, I'm twenty
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Speaker 19: five percent they said they should have it for business
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Speaker 19: or for pleasure.
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Speaker 5: So most people are quite reasonable.
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Speaker 19: What they don't trust is equivocation, people that take too
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Speaker 19: long to get to the truth. You know, if I
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Speaker 19: had picked up the phone to someone like Alan Joyce
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Speaker 19: to get a flight up date, upgrade, which I never had.
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Speaker 5: I would remember it.
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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Remember and jammer in a cost of
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Speaker 3: living crisis as well. Not a good look. Well it's
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Speaker 3: a terrible look.
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Speaker 4: But it's also the extension of exactly what Kelly said.
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Speaker 4: It's about saying we all need to pull out our
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Speaker 4: belts in, we all need to reduce our emissions, we
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Speaker 4: all need to do X y Z. But by the way,
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Speaker 4: we're going to fight climate change over a glass of
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Speaker 4: Margaret Rivershaardi at the pointy end of the plane because
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Speaker 4: our mates with allan joyce.
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Speaker 5: And it was the delay, it was.
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Speaker 4: The run around and just the lack of trust and
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Speaker 4: authenticity against a prime minister who loves the tennis, he
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Speaker 4: loves the box here is at.
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Speaker 3: The latest folk festival.
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Speaker 4: He is literally the duty likes to party his way
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Speaker 4: through government. Meanwhile, there are all of these pressing issues
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Speaker 4: that just seem to fall by the wayside.
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Speaker 2: Kelly, in New South Wales, you're the state or the
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Speaker 2: shadow health minister. We've seen the nurses go on strike
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Speaker 2: this week demanding a fifteen percent pay rise. At least
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Speaker 2: that was their initial demand.
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Speaker 3: Look, we understand nurses.
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Speaker 2: Need to be well paid, but you know already hospitals
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Speaker 2: are shot staff.
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Speaker 3: This is a very difficult situation.
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Speaker 5: This is a problem.
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Speaker 19: It's a huge mess, and it feels like an intractable
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Speaker 19: dispute between Labor, who promised so much in the lead
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Speaker 19: up to the election, and the nurses union who were
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Speaker 19: feeling betrayed.
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Speaker 5: So you have a situation where the nurses are saying we're.
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Speaker 19: Not backing down, and in fact they're flouting the Industrial
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Speaker 19: Commissions rules not to strike. You have Labour saying we've
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Speaker 19: got no more money. So how do you fix it.
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Speaker 19: I don't know the solution. Labour's saying to the nurses,
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Speaker 19: we can't pay you more because we're going to invest
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Speaker 19: in more nurses. Nurses are saying that's an impossible choice.
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Speaker 19: And in the midst of this we've got a protest
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Speaker 19: by the CFMU Industrial election by the Electrical Trades Union.
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Speaker 5: Rail unions are stopping.
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Speaker 19: It is chaos in New South Wales and it's a
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Speaker 19: problem of Labour's making.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because the unions very quickly GEMMA expect pay
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Speaker 2: rises from labor.
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Speaker 4: Well, of course they do, because this is the Labor
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Speaker 4: Party is a union party.
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Speaker 5: That's where the votes come from.
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Speaker 4: That's where the caucuses come from, that's where the deals
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Speaker 4: are done. So it makes absolutely perfect sense that there
47:45
Speaker 4: is a time to pay the piper. In Italian we
47:48
Speaker 4: say keypaga, who's paying. It's the unions labor party is
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Speaker 4: paying you and I are paying. Because this is the
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Speaker 4: way the power structure works in the political left in
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Speaker 4: this country.
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Speaker 3: Right, Gemma Tognini, Kelly Sloan's so great to have you.
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Speaker 2: Bok shore me all right after the break, Just a
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Speaker 2: final thought, stay tuned.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 2: Last night I wasn't here because I was attending my
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Speaker 2: company's journalism awards and my colleague at The Australian, Yanni Bashan,
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Speaker 2: he won the main award in honor of Sir Keith Murdoch.
48:18
Speaker 2: Lachlan Murdock presented him with this prestigious award, and right
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Speaker 2: after October seven, Yanni flew to Israel. He even went
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Speaker 2: into Gaza. He was so courageous. But what I want
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Speaker 2: to say, and I feel this strongly but I don't
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Speaker 2: say it enough, is that there's only one media company
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Speaker 2: around the world that has had unwavering moral clarity since
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Speaker 2: October seven. You've been watching Sky News and you've seen
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Speaker 2: the clear eyed reports from Chris Kenny, Caroline Marcus, Peter Credlin,
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Speaker 2: Andrew Bolt, Aaron Moland, James McPherson and so many more.
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Speaker 2: The commentators here as well, And given we've had such
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Speaker 2: abysmal political leadership, I just have to say thank God
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Speaker 2: for NewsCorp, for Sky News and the news Corp papers
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Speaker 2: around the world. To all my colleagues, a huge thank
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Speaker 2: you for standing by our side as we fight anti Semitism.
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Speaker 3: That's it from me. I'll see you Monday at eight.
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Speaker 3: And here's Paul Murray.