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UK Column News - 9th March 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: I've got sad good afternoon. Today is Monday, the ninth
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Speaker 1: of March twenty twenty six, just after one o'clock. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to UK column News. I'm your host, Brian Gerrish, delighted
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Speaker 1: to have with me in the studio. Ben Rubin, welcome, Ben.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian. It's always a pleasure. Sunday is Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Monday is the highlight of my week, although Sunday is
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Speaker 2: pretty good because I get to think about Monday.
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Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, Well you're here. That's the main thing. We've
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Speaker 1: got a busy Monday's News. Today, we're going to have
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Speaker 1: a look at the war in Iran from the point
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Speaker 1: of a view of causes of the war or discussion
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Speaker 1: around causes. We're going to have a look at legality issues.
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Speaker 1: We're going to have a look at the Blair Stormer
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Speaker 1: war of words. We're going to be looking a little
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Speaker 1: bit about Cypress and some of the chaos in the
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Speaker 1: UK military, and we're going to be looking at the
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Speaker 1: cost of the war. So quite quite a lot to
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Speaker 1: be told, I think about Iran and Ben, you're going
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Speaker 1: to be having a look at Third Empire, the Third
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Speaker 1: British Empire, a touch of the Commonwealth, look at restore Britain.
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Speaker 1: We've got some really important news to do with the
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Speaker 1: family courts, and we're going to be ending up today's
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Speaker 1: news with a look at voting for sixteen year old
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Speaker 1: So that's quite a packet. Well, let's kick straight off
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Speaker 1: with a look at a pretty tough headline by the Express.
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Speaker 1: Here it is Keir Starmer, worse than Hitler, appeasing Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister and from a man who we should know, and
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Speaker 1: of course absolutely right we should know this man. Now
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Speaker 1: what has caused the war? I went looking over the
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Speaker 1: week for some explanations as to what was actually going on,
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Speaker 1: and today we've got quite a lot of video footage
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Speaker 1: to share with you. So let's kick off with Channel
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Speaker 1: Fall's take on things.
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Speaker 3: There's a war in the Middle East. Operation Epic Fury
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Speaker 3: has already led to the depths of more than a
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Speaker 3: thousand civilians and eliminated one of the most powerful leaders
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Speaker 3: in modern history. Donald Trump and the Israeli say the
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Speaker 3: conflict is about security stability, and that they're providing the
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Speaker 3: people of Iran with an opportunity for change. But the
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Speaker 3: reasons why this war has started are all over the place.
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Speaker 2: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 3: This is not a so called.
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Speaker 4: Regime change war.
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Speaker 5: Take back your country.
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Speaker 6: Eliminate the threat of Iran's short range ballistic missiles.
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Speaker 7: We did not start a war.
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Speaker 2: We're trying to stop the war.
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Speaker 3: So in this foresight, let's talk about what the Trump
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Speaker 3: administration claims is driving this conflict and why this actually
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Speaker 3: looks more like a president ripping up the rule book
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Speaker 3: to some in his place in the history books.
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Speaker 8: Trump seeks the stature or the historical legacy of a
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Speaker 8: figure like Reagan.
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Speaker 3: This is the biggest roll of the dice from a
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Speaker 3: president who feels right now invincible but has unleashed chaos
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Speaker 3: across a region he barely understands, risking the lives and
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Speaker 3: futures of millions of people across the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: So Channel four obviously a bit confused, but their final
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Speaker 1: take is, well, the war in Iran, a war against Iran,
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Speaker 1: at the moment, is just down to Donald Trump. Effectively,
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Speaker 1: he's worried about his position, or alternatively, he's very overconfident
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Speaker 1: about his position. He can do anything. He can move
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Speaker 1: these huge military assets around the world. So it's just
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Speaker 1: a well, it's just a little bit of Trump saber rattling.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this second video clip where
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Speaker 1: somebody is saying something rather different.
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Speaker 7: This is a long term gain because what we want
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Speaker 7: to do is get such massive oil reserves in Iran
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Speaker 7: out of the hands of terrorists, and so what we're
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Speaker 7: going to experience here in the short term is highly
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Speaker 7: outweighed of the long term benefit because ultimately we're not
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Speaker 7: going to have to worry about these issues in the
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Speaker 7: strait of her moves because we're going to get all
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Speaker 7: of the oil out of the hands of terrorists.
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Speaker 1: So interesting little clips there, Ben and what it's to
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Speaker 1: do with the oil, and I think many people would
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Speaker 1: actually say this seems to be part of the pattern
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Speaker 1: of the US over recent years. Or we go back
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Speaker 1: as to the trouble in Iraq, and at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, it's who is in control of the oil.
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Speaker 1: Of course, in Ukraine it's using control of the rare
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Speaker 1: earth minerals, the mining assets. But this is about a
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Speaker 1: very powerful country, the USA, with its supporters seemingly deciding
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Speaker 1: who it can strip out resources from. Now. One of
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Speaker 1: the things that's interesting is when you go looking for
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Speaker 1: legal comment or comment under the law as to what's happening.
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Speaker 1: I came across just security. No, I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: this organization is trustworthy from anything else. It's funded by
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Speaker 1: open society, but I was interested in their position. So
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Speaker 1: here we've got. The logic of the United Kingdom's legal
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Speaker 1: position is clear. By distinguishing between offensive and defensive action
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Speaker 1: against Iran, the United Kingdom is taking and supporting only
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Speaker 1: military action that falls within the exercise of individual and
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Speaker 1: collective self defense against unlawful attacks by Iran, but not
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Speaker 1: the wider US Israeli offensive campaign. And that takes a
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Speaker 1: little bit of thinking through, But I'll give you the
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Speaker 1: second part. In short, the United Kingdom is at best
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Speaker 1: walking a legal type rope, but worst it is attempting
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Speaker 1: to draw an impossible distinction. As one of their writers,
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Speaker 1: mister Haik, had argued earlier, his position is doc trinally
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Speaker 1: coherent in the abstract. In practice, however, maintaining a distinction
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Speaker 1: between offensive and defensive operations would would require a degree
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Speaker 1: of control and situation awareness over US military activity conducted
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Speaker 1: from British bases that the UK may simply not possess.
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Speaker 1: The risk is that having opened the door to limited
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Speaker 1: defensive support, the UK now finds that door difficult to close.
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Speaker 1: So that's a pretty interesting comment. And of course many
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Speaker 1: people in UK utterly confused by what Starmer really meant
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Speaker 1: by saying we were being defensive when clearly we are
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Speaker 1: helping the Americans to attack Iran. So this is part
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Speaker 1: of the confusion in the legal world.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but at least he was being trinally coherent in
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Speaker 2: the abstract. So that's okay then.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that. Well keep that in your
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Speaker 1: mind as we go to this clip with Laura Kunzberg
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Speaker 1: from the BBC who's interviewing Israel Israel's president, and in
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Speaker 1: this clip there's some very interesting body language and language.
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Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this.
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Speaker 9: The United Kingdom is not at all convinced in government
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Speaker 9: that you had the legal right to do this. There
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Speaker 9: is now chaos and danger across a whole region, and
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Speaker 9: Iran was at the negotiating table when you began this attack.
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Speaker 9: How can you justify that?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 10: There is in these questions that I get repeatedly from
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Speaker 10: British press, mostly about the legality of the action, it's
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Speaker 10: quite amazing when you think about the fact that Iran
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Speaker 10: did not adhere to any rule of international law and
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Speaker 10: Prime Minister mentioned that in the last year only there
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Speaker 10: were way above ten events or twenty events from which
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Speaker 10: are suspected as the all attacks of Iran in Britain.
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Speaker 10: You ask yourself, why why did they have to attack
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Speaker 10: Britain in the last year only? They've done that all
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Speaker 10: over the world, with their empire of evil, with their proxies,
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Speaker 10: violating every rule of law, and just two months ago
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Speaker 10: killing about fifty zerousand of their own citizens just like that.
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Speaker 10: So to ask about the legality of an action which
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Speaker 10: is clearly self defense, which is not only self defense
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Speaker 10: for US, but self defense for Europe.
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Speaker 9: But many people in many democracies around the world think
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Speaker 9: that having a framework where there are rules for democracies
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Speaker 9: to obey still matters. And you have been expanding this war.
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Speaker 9: You have attacked Leben and again hundreds of people have
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Speaker 9: been killed and thousands of people have been forced to
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Speaker 9: leave their homes. Why does Israel have the right to
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Speaker 9: start dropping bombs on another sovereign country beyond Iran?
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Speaker 10: He has another unbelievable question. We didn't do that. We
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Speaker 10: were attacked vihemently by missiles from Lebanon, from Chris Bala,
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Speaker 10: when the sovereign Lebanese government says that they object to
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Speaker 10: it totally, but they don't have the power to do it.
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Speaker 10: We're doing their work for that billions. We have to.
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Speaker 10: We have to. Don't you understand that there is a
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Speaker 10: an empire of evil means proxies armed to their neck
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Speaker 10: with billions of dollars of Iranian people's money, simply to
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Speaker 10: create havoc TiO pain bloodshed all over the world any region. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 10: this is a true tragedy. There was an agreement signed
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Speaker 10: with Lebanon a Ceisfi with his Bala just a year ago, okay,
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Speaker 10: and they violated it all of a sudden, of course,
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Speaker 10: under the instruction of the Iranians. Of course, they sent
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Speaker 10: dozens of missiles on Israel, and they keep on doing
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Speaker 10: it on the hour, every hour, all the time, towards
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Speaker 10: our northern border and the rest of the country. So
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Speaker 10: we have the full right to defend ourselves.
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Speaker 1: So I found that an interesting clip because personally, I
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Speaker 1: haven't seen this lady get so motivated in questioning somebody.
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Speaker 1: She seemed to be pretty hot under the collar. And
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Speaker 1: look at the reply that we get back from the
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Speaker 1: President that basically Israel is saving us. It's saved us
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Speaker 1: with our own security services, which are locked into Israel
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Speaker 1: has saved us from multiple attacks. British public never given
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Speaker 1: what evidence there is to support such claims. But Israel
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Speaker 1: is essentially protecting the Western world from all of these
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Speaker 1: overseas threats, and he's coming back with some real aggression
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Speaker 1: in my book, but it was interesting that there's signs,
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Speaker 1: I think here that even the BBC is now confused
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Speaker 1: as to what this war is about and who are
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Speaker 1: the good guys and who are the bad guys. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of bad guys, let's bring in Tony Blair, because of
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Speaker 1: course he's the one who's been stabbing Stalmer in the
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Speaker 1: back for not getting fully involved. This is the London
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Speaker 1: economic here with of course, Tony Blair says UK should
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Speaker 1: have backed the US war with Iran from the start,
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Speaker 1: and if we just have a look at this video
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Speaker 1: clip from twenty to thirteen, it's almost way back then
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Speaker 1: that Blair knew what was coming.
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Speaker 11: Do you believe that Israel is genuinely planning to do
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Speaker 11: some kind of preemptive strike based on the rhetoric we're
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Speaker 11: now hearing, and if they do, what should the reaction be?
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Speaker 11: Particularly of America, but also other Ali countries.
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Speaker 12: Well, is Israel absolutely determined that Iran should not acquire
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Speaker 12: nuclear weapons capability? Yes, I mean how they prevent that
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Speaker 12: is another matter, but I mean it is clear that
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Speaker 12: Iran continues to work towards getting that capability. And for Israel,
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Speaker 12: the president of Iran just a few days back was
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Speaker 12: questioning Israel's right to exist, so you can understand why
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Speaker 12: they feel this is an existential question for them. Now,
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Speaker 12: I still think it's possible that a combination of sanctions
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Speaker 12: and negotiations can resolve this, but you've got to say
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Speaker 12: that time is marching on and so is their nuclear
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Speaker 12: weapons program, and Israel will feel obviously alarmed and threatened
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Speaker 12: by it.
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Speaker 11: If they do something. Should America do anything or does
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Speaker 11: America keep.
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Speaker 2: Out of this?
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Speaker 12: We're not that point yet. The United States of America,
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Speaker 12: by the way, has also given an absolutely clear and
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Speaker 12: firm statement on this that Iran with a nuclear weapon
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Speaker 12: is unacceptable, and by the way, I'm quite sure and
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Speaker 12: President Obama when he says that, he means it and
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Speaker 12: intends to stand by it. So I think America is
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Speaker 12: also giving a very strong message to Iran. But everybody
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Speaker 12: wants to resolve this without a conflict, because that is
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Speaker 12: sensible and the best way of doing it, because the
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Speaker 12: consequences of any conflict would be very serious, a lowe,
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Speaker 12: profoundly unpredictable.
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Speaker 1: So fascinating there. According to Blair, it should be done
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Speaker 1: by a negotiation. But of course Iran has been negotiating
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Speaker 1: with the West and was attacked during those negotiations with
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Speaker 1: the West. And then of course he's saying about the
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Speaker 1: thread of nuclear weapons. But just a little while ago
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Speaker 1: America attacked Iran and claimed it had destroyed Iran's nuclear capability.
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Speaker 1: So just fascinating to see what was in his head
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Speaker 1: back in that time. But everything is on the back
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Speaker 1: of what Israel does. What Israel does, and when he
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Speaker 1: was asked about the US coming in, he completely ignored
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Speaker 1: the point. If we pop up some of his comments
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Speaker 1: directed towards Starmer, this is what he actually had to say.
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Speaker 1: I think we should have backed to America from the
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Speaker 1: very start. We've got to be very clear about this.
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Speaker 1: As a country, we're depending on the American Alliance throughout country.
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Speaker 1: They're not just an ally, they're an indispensable ally, right,
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Speaker 1: and they were asking to use our basis to refuel.
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Speaker 1: That's the Americans, of course, it's not like it was
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Speaker 1: in Vietnam, not like the Iraq campaign where we had
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Speaker 1: thousands of British troops. If they are your ally, and
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Speaker 1: they are an indispensable cornerstone fuel security, you had better
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Speaker 1: show up. And now the interesting thing is that Blair
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Speaker 1: was speaking at a private Jewish media event here and
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Speaker 1: although it was briefly mentioned in the British press, you
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Speaker 1: had to dig to find out what was going on.
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Speaker 1: So I'd just like to bring up on screen Jewish News.
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Speaker 1: This is the news organization which held the private meeting
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Speaker 1: in which Blair was speaking, and Jewish News funded by
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Speaker 1: the Jacob Foundation, and the object of that foundation is
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Speaker 1: to promote cohesion within the Jewish community, between the Jewish
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Speaker 1: community and other communities in the UK and support the
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Speaker 1: vital work of many Jewish charities and other institutions. And
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Speaker 1: to find the Jacob Foundation you need to go and
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Speaker 1: have a look at details from the Charities Commission. But
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Speaker 1: amongst other things, they show the level of funding which
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Speaker 1: has had a pretty dramatic increase, peaking at twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: So clearly this organization is seen as important now compare
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Speaker 1: Blair's statements with Lord Wilson, the Shadow Attorney General, and
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Speaker 1: these are some comments that he was quoted as saying,
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Speaker 1: these comments excuse me by the legal organization we've just covered.
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Speaker 1: And he said that international law ought to provide a
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Speaker 1: mechanism to restrain and if necessary, end, despotic and tyrannical
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Speaker 1: regimes such as that in Iran. The doctrines of international
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Speaker 1: law prove unable to restrain Iranian terrorism and mass murder,
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Speaker 1: and tie the hands of democracies while forcing them to
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Speaker 1: stand and watch Iranian atrocities, international law will have failed.
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Speaker 1: It would have become a fundamentally immoral system of law
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Speaker 1: and one which is worse than worthless in the modern world.
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Speaker 1: And just to finish this quote, to be clear, I
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Speaker 1: don't believe that it is. I think international law is
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Speaker 1: important and both can and should provide a legal adjust
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Speaker 1: leagual order. I do, however, have serious questions as to
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Speaker 1: the moral attitudes of some of its expositors. Too many
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Speaker 1: international lawyers serenely promote an analysis which ultimately protects tyrants.
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Speaker 1: So that's quite a statement. It's clearly pro Israel. Let's
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Speaker 1: have a look at the video clip of Lord Wilson
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Speaker 1: speaking publicly.
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Speaker 13: Here tonight for two reasons. First of all, because on
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Speaker 13: Rhanikah we celebrate our faith publicly. We light our Monoah
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Speaker 13: in the window, in the doorway, and yes, also in
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Speaker 13: the public square. So that's why we're here tonight. That's
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Speaker 13: one reason why we're here tonight. But there's another reason
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Speaker 13: we're here tonight, and we all know it. It's because
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Speaker 13: what happened in Australia on the first night of Ranikah,
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Speaker 13: and let's be clear what happened. Jews celebrating their festivals
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Speaker 13: were gunned down simply because they were Jews. And we
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Speaker 13: are able to be here in safety because and let
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Speaker 13: me thank them publicly. Here we have the Community Security Trust.
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Speaker 13: Without the Community Security Trust, there would not be viable
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Speaker 13: Jewish life in this country. And while it is important
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Speaker 13: that this government, like previous governments, provides funds to the
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Speaker 13: Community Security Trust, the answer to Jewish security and Jewish
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Speaker 13: safety is not to build yet higher walls around our synagogues.
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Speaker 13: It is not to put yet more gods outside our schools.
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Speaker 13: The answer to Jewish safety and Jewish security is to
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Speaker 13: our ourselves, and not just ourselves, as Jews, but UK society,
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Speaker 13: why do we need this security? What are the root
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Speaker 13: causes of the extremist ideologies which drive anti Semitic violence.
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Speaker 13: I want to see us all being more muscular in
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Speaker 13: defending the values that make the UK the society.
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Speaker 2: We want it to be.
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Speaker 1: A lot to take in in that talk. And as
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Speaker 1: you saw, that was an edit in the in the
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Speaker 1: middle I didn't take change the context to what he
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Speaker 1: was saying, and it showed the two clips. But essentially
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Speaker 1: he is saying that if it wasn't for CST, the
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Speaker 1: Community Security Trust, no Jew in the country would be safe.
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Speaker 1: So this is saying that there is a complete failure
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Speaker 1: of the police in this country, of failure of our
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Speaker 1: security services, a failure of the military to protect Jews.
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Speaker 1: And he then says that the Jewish community community has
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Speaker 1: got to be a lot more robust in establishing what
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Speaker 1: they want. And then he asked that the incredible question,
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Speaker 1: which is essentially we need to understand why people are
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Speaker 1: upset with the Jewish state and elements of the Jewish society.
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Speaker 1: So apparently then he can't understand the deaths of tens
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Speaker 1: of thousands of people in the Middle East or the
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Speaker 1: continuing creation of war around Israel with Western backing. He
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Speaker 1: simply can't understand this. But I have to say, what
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Speaker 1: an insult to say to the country that it is
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Speaker 1: only one Jewish organization which is protecting Jews. I find
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Speaker 1: it unbelievable. And is this attitude going to be taken
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Speaker 1: into the law system in UK.
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Speaker 2: I think that's without question.
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Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, yeah, well we lend on that note. A
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Speaker 1: lot more to discuss. But Ben, you're going to be
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Speaker 1: having a look at British Empire.
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Speaker 2: The British Empire. Yes, it's getting flags out people. It's
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Speaker 2: Empire Day. Actually it's not its Commonwealth Day twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 2: but it's basically Empire Day. As i'll common to Let's
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Speaker 2: have a little look at this clip and it'll explain
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Speaker 2: what the whole thing's about.
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Speaker 8: The Commonwealth is a family of fifty six independent countries
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Speaker 8: representing two point seven billion people across the globe. Commonwealth
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Speaker 8: Day is observed on the second Monday in March each
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Speaker 8: year by people all over the Commonwealth in Africa, Asia,
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Speaker 8: the Caribbean and Americas, Europe and the Pacific. It's a
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Speaker 8: moment to celebrate the strong unity, diversity, and shared values
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Speaker 8: of our Commonwealth family. This year, Commonwealth Day will be
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Speaker 8: marked on the ninth of March, with the special service
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Speaker 8: of Westminster Abbey, alongside faith and civic gatherings, cultural events
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Speaker 8: and flag raising ceremonies around the world. The theme Unlocking
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Speaker 8: Opportunities Together for a Prosperous Commonwealth highlights how our member
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Speaker 8: countries can work together to tackle today's challenges and create
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Speaker 8: lasting prosperity for all. Join the celebrations of social media
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Speaker 8: using hashtag Commonwealth.
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Speaker 2: Day, Commonwealth Day, hashtag Commonwealth Day. Unfortunately no one has
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Speaker 2: used a hashtag, so they have not been very successful
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Speaker 2: with their social media promotion. But it is today, this
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Speaker 2: very day. What's not to love of diversity, community opportunity.
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Speaker 2: Two point seven billion people, fifty six countries, thirty three
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Speaker 2: island nations small island nations that form the Commonwealth. But
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Speaker 2: there has been fury spokes over the weekend because the
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Speaker 2: Commonwealth Day service at Westminster abby will not be broadcast
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Speaker 2: and instead has been replaced with a repeat of a
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Speaker 2: show called Escape to the Country, which I don't want
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Speaker 2: the BBC. I don't know what that is, but yes, anyway,
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Speaker 2: you probably get the idea and obviously everyone is up
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Speaker 2: in arms about this.
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Speaker 1: Of course, the poor BBC hasn't got enough money to
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Speaker 1: actually cover that event. They couldn't get a couple of
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Speaker 1: cameramen there for a few thousand pounds. They couldn't cover it.
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Speaker 1: But let's have a look at the Express. Because the
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Speaker 1: Express was sounding off. BBC breaks silence after acting live
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Speaker 1: coverage or All Families Commonwealth Day Service. And I had
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Speaker 1: to bring this on screen because it made me laugh
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Speaker 1: because if you read it, it says today the corporation
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Speaker 1: has opted to air is scapped to the country instead,
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Speaker 1: So the poor old Express couldn't actually couldn't get it
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Speaker 1: spelling rights as it came out with a normal report
23:56
Speaker 1: on this. So just a bit of black humor here
23:58
Speaker 1: from the UK column. But it did make me laugh. So,
24:02
Speaker 1: my goodness, lots of things happening. Nobody wants to see
24:05
Speaker 1: the Royalty at work. Yeah, BBC's got no money to cover.
24:10
Speaker 2: It, right, And I think that's quitte important. I think
24:13
Speaker 2: that decision has probably got something to do with the
24:15
Speaker 2: fact that we've seen quite a lot of the Royalty
24:17
Speaker 2: recently and they want to maintain a load profile this year.
24:20
Speaker 2: But just in case you forgot what they look like.
24:22
Speaker 2: There's some clips from last year at the same service
24:25
Speaker 2: at Westminster Abbey, so Charlie Boy Camilla and then the
24:29
Speaker 2: nations with flags parading through Westminster Abbey, pomp, pageantry, ceremony,
24:39
Speaker 2: multi ethnic clergy, and I think that the Royals are
24:44
Speaker 2: probably sitting there wondering which of these lot is going
24:46
Speaker 2: to have the honor of carting them around on their
24:50
Speaker 2: shoulders at some point. And you're not too distant future,
24:53
Speaker 2: because whenever I think of the Commonwealth, this is what
24:55
Speaker 2: I think of. It's just a throwback, isn't it.
25:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty amazing Yeah, I think we're in
25:03
Speaker 1: an era where we have to start questioning quite a
25:05
Speaker 1: lot around the raw family and what they think they're doing.
25:08
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, because for me, ultimately the Commonwealth is the Empire.
25:13
Speaker 2: It's had a lick of pain and a rebrand and
25:17
Speaker 2: uses a different tone of voice and whatnot, but essentially
25:20
Speaker 2: it's the same thing. It's about centralization of power around Britain.
25:25
Speaker 2: And to understand this better you've got to go and
25:27
Speaker 2: look back over one hundred years now. These things have
25:30
Speaker 2: been in the pipeline for quite some time. Obviously, the
25:33
Speaker 2: Commonwealth itself was formed immediately after the Second World War,
25:36
Speaker 2: but a lot of that was driven by the thinking
25:38
Speaker 2: of this chap is Alfred Zimmon, who was a professor
25:43
Speaker 2: of international relations. He actually invented the science of international relations,
25:49
Speaker 2: something that was perfected in institutions like Chatham House where
25:54
Speaker 2: he was a co founder, which was one of the
25:56
Speaker 2: outcomes of the First World War. He was involved in
25:59
Speaker 2: this ublishing UNESCO as part of the UN after the
26:02
Speaker 2: Second World War, actually coined the term the welfare state,
26:06
Speaker 2: which was a big part of this transition. So previously
26:09
Speaker 2: we were a warfare state and the empire was driven
26:13
Speaker 2: through military might, and the transition has been towards a
26:19
Speaker 2: welfare state, which is about social justice, which is another
26:22
Speaker 2: term that he helped to popularize. And he actually wrote
26:25
Speaker 2: a lot of these ideas down in a book called
26:27
Speaker 2: The Third British Empire, came out in the mid nineteen
26:30
Speaker 2: twenties where he talked about this transition away from an
26:33
Speaker 2: empire that was centrally managed from London with the British
26:37
Speaker 2: nation at its core, this enforced through military power, towards
26:41
Speaker 2: something that is distributed out into the dominions, is managed
26:45
Speaker 2: through institutions, and think tanks, using soft power, trade deal,
26:50
Speaker 2: sustainable development, that kind of thing, but again ultimately delivering
26:54
Speaker 2: the same outcome, total centralization of wealth and power within
26:57
Speaker 2: that system under this neo imperial regime, overseen ultimately by
27:01
Speaker 2: the British monarch. Charles Third is the head of the
27:04
Speaker 2: Commonwealth right, very important point now, he was also zimm
27:09
Speaker 2: And writing in this magazine when he popularized the term commonwealth.
27:14
Speaker 2: It was because he was writing in the Roundtable magazine
27:17
Speaker 2: which was created by the Milner Group in nineteen ten
27:21
Speaker 2: I think it was that first launched and this is
27:22
Speaker 2: still active today. So you can actually trace a direct
27:26
Speaker 2: lineage from the work that was coming out of people
27:28
Speaker 2: like Cecil Rhoades and Lord Milner and the round Table
27:33
Speaker 2: and then into Chathamhouse and whatnot back in the the
27:37
Speaker 2: just over a century go now and in the past
27:39
Speaker 2: one hundred years right the way through to the way
27:41
Speaker 2: that things are running today across fifty six nations two
27:46
Speaker 2: point seven billion people.
27:48
Speaker 1: Be from this helps explain why the Foreign Commonwealth and
27:52
Speaker 1: Development Office is pumping in billions and billions and billions
27:55
Speaker 1: absolutely to these overseas projects never declared the UK public.
28:01
Speaker 1: And of course Mike Robinson pointed out when it started
28:05
Speaker 1: to put in Freedom of information request to track down
28:08
Speaker 1: these billions, all of a sudden the fcdo close the
28:13
Speaker 1: database to be released at some future date. So there's
28:19
Speaker 1: the organization and there's the billions to back it.
28:21
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, all that money going out to lubricate the
28:26
Speaker 2: deals and the conversations around them. Ultimately, there's a term
28:29
Speaker 2: that Rory Stewart uses, which is a business wrapped in
28:33
Speaker 2: diplomacy and a lot of this it's about making money, right.
28:36
Speaker 2: This is a great quote here from Simon Wansa Kepwepwe,
28:40
Speaker 2: who's a former vice president of Zambia, actually died in
28:43
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. I think he died quite young. I think
28:45
Speaker 2: he was probably too good at calling out the Commonwealth
28:48
Speaker 2: and the British Empire on its nonsense. And he said,
28:51
Speaker 2: if we don't handle our independence very well, colonizers will
28:54
Speaker 2: come back in the form of investors, which is exactly
28:56
Speaker 2: what's happened. As you've moved from gunboat diplomacy to impact
29:02
Speaker 2: investing corporate loans. You've got the Commonwealth Enterprise and Investment
29:06
Speaker 2: Council absolutely at the heart of this. They're running a
29:09
Speaker 2: concurrent event with all the other Commonwealth stuff that's going
29:11
Speaker 2: on around Commonwealth Day. This Council is based in the
29:15
Speaker 2: Guildhall at the City of London. It's the primary administrative
29:19
Speaker 2: building of the City of London. That's where the Commonwealth
29:21
Speaker 2: Enterprise and Investments Council is based. This it's about money,
29:26
Speaker 2: but then it's also about exerting influence across all other
29:30
Speaker 2: nation states internationally. So we've got control over the Commonwealth,
29:36
Speaker 2: but then that is used to exert influence and ultimately
29:39
Speaker 2: control over the rest of the global population as well.
29:43
Speaker 2: The best person to hear about that is Baroness Patricia Scotland,
29:46
Speaker 2: who is former Commonwealth Secretary General, who described the Commonwealth
29:51
Speaker 2: as a petri dish that you can grow almost anything in.
29:54
Speaker 2: You can come up with solutions that work not just
29:57
Speaker 2: for the Commonwealth but for everybody. Yeah. So this is
30:00
Speaker 2: the mechanism through which Britain exerts international control. And the
30:04
Speaker 2: two best examples of that for me are the Langkawi
30:10
Speaker 2: Declaration on the Environment in nineteen eighty nine, which is
30:13
Speaker 2: where the Commonwealth declared a climate emergency. So it's the
30:16
Speaker 2: first time any kind of multinational body had come out
30:19
Speaker 2: and said there is a climate crisis. Climate change is
30:22
Speaker 2: a real thing. We've got to do something about it.
30:24
Speaker 2: We've got to introduce this new sustainable development agenda. And
30:27
Speaker 2: then in twenty fifteen, on a similar vein, a Special
30:31
Speaker 2: Session on climate change was held in Malta which delivered
30:36
Speaker 2: a communicate where Commonwealth heads of government committed themselves to
30:41
Speaker 2: a one point five degree rise in temperatures or lower
30:48
Speaker 2: on pre industrial levels. And then the month after that
30:51
Speaker 2: those exact same commitments were then encoded into the Paris Agreement,
30:56
Speaker 2: and from there we have pretty much the entire climate
30:59
Speaker 2: change gender, the sustainable development goals. Everything is kind of
31:03
Speaker 2: cascaded down from.
31:05
Speaker 1: So the common Wealth and incubator, yes, policies.
31:08
Speaker 2: Exactly, and it creates a channel through which Britain can
31:13
Speaker 2: turn around and say, oh, well, we've got all of
31:15
Speaker 2: these island nations and people of color who we're being
31:19
Speaker 2: nice to and have a democratic say in how our
31:22
Speaker 2: policies are being developed, and they can turn around to
31:25
Speaker 2: the rest of the world and they can convince them
31:27
Speaker 2: that actually this is all transparent and above board, whereas
31:30
Speaker 2: actually it's not, and it delivers the outcomes that we've described.
31:35
Speaker 2: So yeah, Commonwealth Day, the third British Empire in Auburn name.
31:39
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that, Ben Well. I just add
31:41
Speaker 1: a bit to that. This is a little video clipper
31:43
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Sachs talking about very wealthy people, very very wealthy people.
31:51
Speaker 1: As I've listened.
31:54
Speaker 5: Already, the ten richest Americans have two point three trillion
31:57
Speaker 5: of wealth. That's a lot for ten people, ten individuals.
32:02
Speaker 5: That's not ten companies, that's not ten clans. That's ten people.
32:08
Speaker 5: But they also happen to own a lot more. They
32:12
Speaker 5: own the White House, they install the Vice president, They
32:18
Speaker 5: determine US government policy. They will own the cryptocurrencies, which
32:25
Speaker 5: will become our main currencies. They own all of the
32:29
Speaker 5: big platforms on which we communicate. They own YouTube, of course,
32:36
Speaker 5: which is the channel where I'm able to say sometimes
32:41
Speaker 5: things that are not in the US government's liking. But
32:45
Speaker 5: I don't know for how long. They own my email address.
32:51
Speaker 5: They own the full knowledge of every key stroke I've
32:54
Speaker 5: made in the last ten years, no doubt, they own
32:59
Speaker 5: my privacy. They own the newspapers like the Washington Post
33:06
Speaker 5: owned by Jeffrey Bezos. They will own TikTok shortly TikTok
33:11
Speaker 5: Usa because Larry Ellison is buying it on behalf of
33:17
Speaker 5: Benjamin nat Yahoo and Ellison will give it to his
33:21
Speaker 5: son as a nice gift. He's already given to his son.
33:26
Speaker 5: Paramount Studios, Paramount Media, and CBS News. It's quite a world.
33:33
Speaker 5: And that's just ten or so Americans. So we're in
33:39
Speaker 5: a very strange concentration of power, I think, the likes
33:44
Speaker 5: of which we've never seen before. It is already destroyed democracy.
33:51
Speaker 5: We are democratic in form only, but we don't have
33:55
Speaker 5: a sensible non democratic system. We have a privatized system.
34:02
Speaker 1: So a lot of interesting words there, but essentially what
34:05
Speaker 1: he's describing is immensely, immensely wealthy, powerful people who are
34:10
Speaker 1: driving politics. And put that under the heat of the
34:16
Speaker 1: war against Iran. Who is actually driving it? Is it
34:20
Speaker 1: government or is it policies through the think tax. Let's
34:24
Speaker 1: have a look at the Times Times Radio and they
34:30
Speaker 1: were having a discussion with Larissa Brown, which was about
34:34
Speaker 1: a number of topics, but in one particular clip there
34:38
Speaker 1: was some really quite interesting things said. Again, confusion in
34:43
Speaker 1: the media as to what's actually happening and why. So
34:47
Speaker 1: let's join this video.
34:49
Speaker 6: Jen, I mean, we've got so few frigates and destroyers
34:53
Speaker 6: and a lot of them are tied up in maintenance,
34:56
Speaker 6: long maintenance periods, and we've got a problem with our
34:59
Speaker 6: submarine means there's not enough sailors. Both of the aircraft
35:03
Speaker 6: carriers aren't currently out at sea, and I think our
35:07
Speaker 6: European allies have got frustrated, and so to have our
35:10
Speaker 6: American partners.
35:11
Speaker 14: British allies in the Middle East and the wider region
35:13
Speaker 14: of criticized the UK government for failing to protect them
35:16
Speaker 14: from retaliatory Iranian strikes. Cypress isn't happy either. The country's
35:20
Speaker 14: High Commission to the UK says the least his country
35:22
Speaker 14: expected was to provide a robust defense of the island
35:25
Speaker 14: that is home to two British bases. The Defense Secretary,
35:28
Speaker 14: John Healy has traveled to Cyprus this morning and The
35:31
Speaker 14: Times Defense editor Larissa Brown is with him. We're gonna
35:34
Speaker 14: speak to Larissa our morning.
35:36
Speaker 1: Good morning.
35:37
Speaker 14: What's John Heally doing in Cyprus?
35:42
Speaker 6: Well, this morning he's meeting with local officials, including his
35:46
Speaker 6: defense counterpart. Obviously he's flying into quite quite a tense time.
35:51
Speaker 6: He's come under a criticism or the Labor government has
35:53
Speaker 6: for not doing enough to protect protect the base. And
35:57
Speaker 6: later on we can't say too much for secure reasons,
36:00
Speaker 6: but he will be speaking to troops here as well,
36:02
Speaker 6: to talk to them about what they're what they're doing,
36:04
Speaker 6: and how it's all going.
36:06
Speaker 14: Do you think you get a sense he's frustrated himself,
36:08
Speaker 14: because a lot of people say John Heally's a good
36:11
Speaker 14: Secretary of State the Defense. He would have been pushing
36:13
Speaker 14: for more action, for more preparedness and may have been
36:17
Speaker 14: blocked by other people.
36:20
Speaker 6: I think he I mean, he decided a few weeks
36:24
Speaker 6: ago to send more thirty well f thirty five jets
36:27
Speaker 6: here in Cyprus, and I think from his perspective, he
36:32
Speaker 6: feels like, you know, he did. He did send some
36:35
Speaker 6: assets here to protect the base. Clearly, when he's obviously
36:38
Speaker 6: asked the Navy when the next ship is ready to go,
36:40
Speaker 6: he's been told that the ship that's held at the
36:44
Speaker 6: highest readiness won't be able to leave until next week
36:47
Speaker 6: because it needs to come out of maintenance and needs
36:49
Speaker 6: to have all its weapons fitted before it heads to Cyprus.
36:52
Speaker 6: And this drone we were initially told had hit the
36:56
Speaker 6: runway at the base, but actually now it emerges that
36:58
Speaker 6: it had hit a hangar and this Inside the hangar
37:02
Speaker 6: were two US spy planes that aren't really talked about much,
37:05
Speaker 6: but they are there and they've been flying my understanding,
37:08
Speaker 6: as part of Operation Epic Fury, they've been carrying out
37:11
Speaker 6: reconnaissance missions. And we were told a bit more information
37:15
Speaker 6: about the drone late last night. The drone is thought
37:20
Speaker 6: to have come not from Iran but from either Lebanon
37:23
Speaker 6: or Western Iraq, which suggests it's you know, an Iranian
37:26
Speaker 6: backed militia, possibly his Bolla, rather than the Iranians themselves.
37:31
Speaker 6: And also it was flying so low that it managed
37:33
Speaker 6: to evade the radar system at the base.
37:38
Speaker 1: Again, there's so much to talk about here, and we'll
37:41
Speaker 1: bring some of it into UK Column Extra after the
37:44
Speaker 1: News for our members. But we've got, first of all,
37:48
Speaker 1: the chaos with the British military. We can't get any
37:51
Speaker 1: defensive weapons to Cyprus, we can't get a frigate there.
37:55
Speaker 1: The frigate hasn't got the weapons, so it's all delay
37:58
Speaker 1: and chaos, which seemingly puzzling the times. But then in
38:03
Speaker 1: that clip an amazing piece of information, we're told for
38:06
Speaker 1: the first time that the drone attack on Cyprus wasn't
38:10
Speaker 1: just a hit on a runway, it was a hit
38:12
Speaker 1: on a hangar specifically used by top secret US reconnaissance aircraft.
38:20
Speaker 1: That was really quite an amazing statement, which means whoever
38:24
Speaker 1: targeted the drone had top level information about where these
38:28
Speaker 1: very very important assets were. We'll talk more about that
38:32
Speaker 1: in extra but if we just finish off a little
38:36
Speaker 1: bit of a summary on the war itself. Of course,
38:39
Speaker 1: one of the big things that really is not coming
38:41
Speaker 1: across in Western press is the sheer losses that the
38:46
Speaker 1: US is absorbing. So down here on the left of
38:49
Speaker 1: the screen, we've got one point one billion facilities. In guitar,
38:55
Speaker 1: we've got five hundred million, two hundred and eighty two million,
38:58
Speaker 1: all of this adding up to two point five to
39:00
Speaker 1: two billion pounds of damage in the first few days
39:05
Speaker 1: caused by Iran. On the immense power of America which
39:09
Speaker 1: is truly incredible, and social media swapping a lot of information,
39:14
Speaker 1: some of it coming of course from mainstream like CBS here,
39:19
Speaker 1: but talking about US drones worth millions and millions of
39:23
Speaker 1: pounds being shot down. But one of the key things
39:27
Speaker 1: that's happening in this war is that the Americans and
39:31
Speaker 1: their allies are shooting off air defense missiles at a
39:35
Speaker 1: rate which they can't resupply, and a statistic here saying
39:39
Speaker 1: that Ukraine uses about seven hundred Patriot interceptors in four
39:44
Speaker 1: months according to the UN Commissioner. And then we've got
39:49
Speaker 1: the Kiev Independent here stating that more Patriot missile has
39:52
Speaker 1: been used in the Middle East in three days than
39:56
Speaker 1: in Ukraine since twenty twenty two. If this is astonishing,
40:01
Speaker 1: because there is no way the Americans are going to
40:05
Speaker 1: resupply they don't have the factory capacity to build these missiles.
40:09
Speaker 1: And Kiev post here also saying about eight hundred Patriot
40:13
Speaker 1: missiles were used in just three days of fighting in
40:17
Speaker 1: the Middle East, more than Ukraine has had during the
40:21
Speaker 1: entire war. Now the irony is that if Ukraine has
40:26
Speaker 1: been failing to defend itself against missile and drone attacks
40:31
Speaker 1: in the war, it's the Ukrainians themselves that are now
40:35
Speaker 1: going to be pulled into the Middle East in order
40:38
Speaker 1: to teach the Americans and presumably the uk how to
40:44
Speaker 1: fight against drones and possibly missiles. So this is quite
40:49
Speaker 1: astonishing here, and so many questions to be asked. But
40:54
Speaker 1: of course what it's demonstrating is that Iran is absolutely
40:58
Speaker 1: no pushover and the Americans are in deep trouble, which
41:02
Speaker 1: another aircraft carrier, which is likely to be on its
41:05
Speaker 1: way soon, is unlikely to stop. So how is all
41:10
Speaker 1: this possible. Well, it's possible by huge sums of money
41:14
Speaker 1: coming in through the military industrial complex to keep the
41:18
Speaker 1: military running and keep those weapons factories running. But at
41:23
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's money driving the war.
41:27
Speaker 1: Let's have a look at this Tucker Coulson interview clip.
41:34
Speaker 4: We're being honest, the global war against Israel's enemies costs
41:37
Speaker 4: US eight trillion dollars. That's why we're bankrupt. Yeah, yeah,
41:40
Speaker 4: I mean here we are a thirty eight trillion Tucker.
41:42
Speaker 4: That's the other amazing part. So now in the last
41:45
Speaker 4: two weeks they given Trump gave another eight point six billion,
41:48
Speaker 4: totally unaccounted. Where's that eight point six billion coming from?
41:51
Speaker 4: Did anybody ever vote for that eight point six billion?
41:53
Speaker 4: And then unabated he gave another three point three billion.
41:56
Speaker 4: Where is this money coming from? Is anybody voting on this?
42:00
Speaker 4: What is going on?
42:00
Speaker 2: Well, Ac, it's.
42:01
Speaker 4: These are IOUs to countries that are buying our treasuries exactly.
42:06
Speaker 4: So that's the next layer of it. So you're telling
42:09
Speaker 4: us we have to borrow money from China and Japan,
42:12
Speaker 4: so we can give money for free to Israel and
42:15
Speaker 4: then we pay the interest for the rest of our lives.
42:17
Speaker 4: And they don't pay any interest, well, why don't they
42:20
Speaker 4: borrow it from China and Japan exactly.
42:23
Speaker 1: So that's the level of analysis which is beyond the
42:26
Speaker 1: BBC all the times they simply can't get their heads
42:29
Speaker 1: around what's going on there. But leave you to think
42:31
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42:34
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Speaker 1: more people coming on board with the UK Column team. Now,
43:04
Speaker 1: Military Matters will be out at one o'clock tomorrow and
43:09
Speaker 1: interesting discussion. I'm not going to do too much of
43:12
Speaker 1: a spoiler on it, but you might like to listen
43:15
Speaker 1: in as to what was discussed between Charles Mallett and
43:18
Speaker 1: myself and some of it seemed to have amazing relevance
43:23
Speaker 1: to what it's taken place a few days later, So
43:26
Speaker 1: do have a look at that now, A thousand words
43:30
Speaker 1: A picture paints a thousand words has been a very
43:34
Speaker 1: popular edition of UK column and we've delighted that to
43:41
Speaker 1: say that Jake has been into the studio in order
43:44
Speaker 1: to paint me special experience. Got a little bit of
43:47
Speaker 1: a video clip here to show you what it's like
43:51
Speaker 1: to sit in the painter's chair. This was very unusual
43:58
Speaker 1: language anybody that I'm normally associated with. I can look
44:02
Speaker 1: at the camera and smile because it's equivalent to being
44:05
Speaker 1: the dentist fare now is it?
44:06
Speaker 2: Basically?
44:07
Speaker 1: I mean literally a scribble and a splodge and my
44:10
Speaker 1: son's game.
44:14
Speaker 10: Going for like two thousand pounds.
44:16
Speaker 2: Well, I was just absolutely buggling there.
44:20
Speaker 1: Well, brilliant on camera. I should say thank you very
44:24
Speaker 1: much mate, Brian, and sorry to do a bit of
44:29
Speaker 1: British government and redact some of the information in that
44:32
Speaker 1: little video clip. But the rule is that there's no
44:35
Speaker 1: revealing of that portrait until Jake's completed it, which he
44:40
Speaker 1: should have done by now, but of course that will
44:42
Speaker 1: be I become visible during in the main video about
44:48
Speaker 1: the painting. It was fun, a unique experience. Ben restoring Britain.
44:55
Speaker 1: It's on the way.
44:56
Speaker 2: Well apparently, yes, we talked about restore and quite a
45:00
Speaker 2: lot we will continue to do. So he go, Rupert
45:04
Speaker 2: Lowe wants you to restore Britain. Before I get into this,
45:07
Speaker 2: I'll just say that's a really interesting kind of picture
45:09
Speaker 2: that they've used. There is obviously a matchup of Kitchener
45:14
Speaker 2: and Obama. Kitchener who invented the concentration camp and recruited
45:19
Speaker 2: millions to die in the trenches of World War One
45:21
Speaker 2: and Obama, who invaded seven countries and brag about killing
45:24
Speaker 2: people with predator drones, and they decided to use that. Yeah,
45:28
Speaker 2: it's quite interesting that. Anyway, last week I talked about
45:31
Speaker 2: this organization this is a Wild Kingdom, and they appeared
45:37
Speaker 2: out of Wild East, which is based in Norfolk, and
45:40
Speaker 2: it's run by that guy, Hugh Summerleyton, who is deputy Lieutenant,
45:45
Speaker 2: not lieutenant. I got picked up on that, so I'm
45:47
Speaker 2: very Americanized Deputy Lieutenant of the County of Norfolk and
45:51
Speaker 2: his big boss is this lady Pippa Danna, who is
45:54
Speaker 2: the Lord Lieutenant of Norfolk, who's the patron of the
45:57
Speaker 2: Norfolk Community Foundation, which has been closely linked in the
46:00
Speaker 2: past common Purpose, and I said, given that Rupert Low
46:03
Speaker 2: is farming in Northolk and he's an MP for Norfolk,
46:06
Speaker 2: does he have anything to say about this? And I
46:08
Speaker 2: was pulled up on this quite rightly because actually Rupert
46:12
Speaker 2: Low isn't farming in Norfolk at all. He's on the
46:15
Speaker 2: other side of the country, just outside of Cheltenham, which
46:19
Speaker 2: interestingly is just over four hours away from Great Yarmouth
46:23
Speaker 2: from his constituency. So the first thing I'll say is,
46:25
Speaker 2: Mayor culpa, I got that wrong, So apologies for misleading you.
46:28
Speaker 2: Wasn't my intention whatsoever. But this does actually open it.
46:32
Speaker 2: It doesn't really undermine the message, because actually opens up
46:36
Speaker 2: a bunch of other conversations for me, questions for me,
46:39
Speaker 2: the first one being is how can you be an
46:41
Speaker 2: effective MP in a constituency that you are literally the
46:47
Speaker 2: other side of the country from.
46:49
Speaker 1: An interesting question, I'd say too many years ago we
46:53
Speaker 1: had the leader of Cornwall County Council who lived somewhere
46:56
Speaker 1: up in Newcastle and they flew down and did their
46:59
Speaker 1: job in the weekend, flew back out of the horrible
47:02
Speaker 1: county to go home.
47:03
Speaker 2: Right, So okay, yeah, and surely there's an issue there
47:09
Speaker 2: in terms of your understanding of the local people and
47:12
Speaker 2: your ability to get your arms around the job, right
47:14
Speaker 2: of course. Yeah, right, well there you go. And actually
47:17
Speaker 2: I'm reminded reminded of this quote from Gkheston. What we
47:20
Speaker 2: should try to do is make politics as local as possible,
47:23
Speaker 2: keep the politicians near enough to kick them. The villagers
47:26
Speaker 2: in that under the village tree could also hang their
47:28
Speaker 2: politicians to the tree. It's terrible to contemplate how many,
47:31
Speaker 2: how few politicians are hanged.
47:34
Speaker 1: We can't condone that in any way.
47:36
Speaker 2: No, no, certainly not no, no, no, this was another time,
47:40
Speaker 2: another world. Absolutely, yeah, But you know, I think that
47:44
Speaker 2: the question has to be honest, how can you do
47:46
Speaker 2: that job if you're on the other side of the country.
47:48
Speaker 2: It strikes me that would be rather difficult to do,
47:50
Speaker 2: particularly with all the other stuff that mister Low's got
47:52
Speaker 2: going on. As we'll get into. The other point about
47:55
Speaker 2: the report that I made last week is that actually
47:58
Speaker 2: that Wild Kingdom thing, although so it is originally based
48:02
Speaker 2: in Norfolk, it is part of a national network and
48:05
Speaker 2: it's linked into this thing which is rewilding Britain, which
48:09
Speaker 2: is operative in Gloucestershire, and they've actually got a whole
48:14
Speaker 2: bunch of projects going, including this which is about ecosystem
48:18
Speaker 2: and natural capital mapping. It's not your landscape, it's not
48:22
Speaker 2: nature anymore, Brian, it's natural capital and they've been examining it,
48:28
Speaker 2: mapping it from space. So there's this map that you
48:33
Speaker 2: can go and look at. We'll provide links to all this.
48:34
Speaker 2: You can go and see it and you can look
48:37
Speaker 2: at This is just Gloucestershire, but obviously they've done the
48:39
Speaker 2: whole of the country. And importantly this is going on
48:41
Speaker 2: globally as well. They've actually got the infrastructure now to
48:45
Speaker 2: remotely analyze, to view, to assess all human settlements and
48:54
Speaker 2: natural assets as they like to call them, anywhere on Earth,
48:57
Speaker 2: you know. And that's been going on for quite some times.
48:59
Speaker 2: Whether you're in it or not, your house, you or
49:02
Speaker 2: you know, whatever it is that you know, whatever asset
49:04
Speaker 2: you might have, has probably been index in some way
49:07
Speaker 2: and he exist sits in a database somewhere with a
49:09
Speaker 2: carbon rating it's attached to it. And lo and behold
49:14
Speaker 2: that little blue circle you can see in the middle
49:16
Speaker 2: of the colorful kind of hodgepodge that is glossed you
49:20
Speaker 2: there on the diagram. If we zoom into that, that
49:23
Speaker 2: is Rupert Lowe's farm. So he's right down in the
49:26
Speaker 2: mix there, and you can see using the color coding
49:29
Speaker 2: that his farm is high priority for rewilding, which strikes
49:35
Speaker 2: me he should be interested in.
49:37
Speaker 1: Maybe he just doesn't know this stuff, do you reckon it? Well,
49:41
Speaker 1: it's possible, isn't it, Because we've seen politicians before amazingly
49:45
Speaker 1: ignorant of policies that are beginning to swirl around them.
49:50
Speaker 1: So we could say he doesn't know, or he does know,
49:53
Speaker 1: but he's going to pretend he doesn't know. Either way,
49:57
Speaker 1: it's up to the restore team, the people on the
50:00
Speaker 1: ground supporting Restore, to ask him what he's going to
50:03
Speaker 1: do about this.
50:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that those questions definitely need to be asked. Luckily,
50:08
Speaker 2: he's not actually farming the land all right. It's just
50:11
Speaker 2: quite a thing to find out, given he's really gone
50:13
Speaker 2: into bat presenting himself as a farmer. He actually runs
50:16
Speaker 2: it five hundred and fifty acres as a horse training center.
50:22
Speaker 2: They breed, train, trade race horses and he's got a
50:26
Speaker 2: top Irish trainer Fergolo O'Brien. He runs this and this
50:31
Speaker 2: is all on Rupert Lowe's land, and they feed cakes
50:34
Speaker 2: to the horses and it's all lovely and it's quite
50:36
Speaker 2: an entertaining video. This Actually we'll put a link to
50:38
Speaker 2: the website you can go and watch it. So he's
50:41
Speaker 2: presenting himself as a farmer, but then he doesn't appear
50:45
Speaker 2: to be completely on top of the issues relating to
50:49
Speaker 2: what's happening around farming, even in his own area. And actually,
50:52
Speaker 2: but also he's not farming. He's running a horse racing
50:56
Speaker 2: set up, which I'm sure Basil will be very excited about.
50:58
Speaker 1: He likes a wasn't there fast quote by somebody who
51:01
Speaker 1: said let them eat cake?
51:03
Speaker 2: Yes, there was, Marie Antoinette. Do you think we're heading
51:07
Speaker 2: towards another revolution?
51:09
Speaker 1: Well, we had a very wealthy elite and they didn't
51:12
Speaker 1: know the difference between bread and cake prices. Yeah, but
51:16
Speaker 1: it's cakes for the horses.
51:18
Speaker 2: Cakese for the horses, quite exactly. So I think this
51:20
Speaker 2: is this is interesting. You know, I've lifted the rock
51:23
Speaker 2: up when I'm digging around, and strikes me that some
51:26
Speaker 2: of the things that have been communicated about Rupert Lowe
51:29
Speaker 2: and very different to what the actual reality is. And
51:33
Speaker 2: I don't understand why that's happening. It feels like you
51:35
Speaker 2: should probably be a bit more transparent. Another important thing
51:38
Speaker 2: to know is that the Community Foundation Network mentioned Norfolk
51:43
Speaker 2: Community Foundation earlier, that's actually part of a national network
51:47
Speaker 2: which is centered around UK community foundations. There are forty
51:52
Speaker 2: seven of these across the country, including importantly in Gloucestershire.
51:57
Speaker 2: Just to route this back to mister Low and you
51:59
Speaker 2: can see the Gloucestershire Community Foundation, which is run by
52:03
Speaker 2: a bunch of lovely ladies, including this one. This is
52:06
Speaker 2: Dame Janet Trotter OBDB CVO, who herself was former Lord
52:12
Speaker 2: Lieutenant of gloucestershere from twenty ten to twenty eighteen. So
52:16
Speaker 2: there's a pattern recurring here, right, we're rooting this right
52:19
Speaker 2: into the essentially the course. Right, this is the top
52:23
Speaker 2: tiers of the British establishment out in the counties across
52:27
Speaker 2: the country. And these foundations appear to be well. First
52:31
Speaker 2: of all, we know that they're linked in to Common
52:33
Speaker 2: Purpose in so at least in some sense, but they're
52:37
Speaker 2: also explicitly aligned to the UN Sustainable Development Agenda. So
52:41
Speaker 2: here we can see the Suffolk Community Foundation, where they
52:44
Speaker 2: have an entire page on SDGs, and the chief executive says,
52:48
Speaker 2: community foundations across the UK it's not just his, All
52:52
Speaker 2: of them, or the large number of them are embracing
52:55
Speaker 2: the adoption of the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, so
52:59
Speaker 2: not only implement our grant making activity, but to support
53:02
Speaker 2: our operational culture. This is globalism. This is the global
53:07
Speaker 2: dictatorship being disseminated down through the system into this area
53:12
Speaker 2: that I had never come across before. Actually, we talk
53:15
Speaker 2: a lot about what's going on politically, we talk a
53:17
Speaker 2: lot about what's going on with corporations. We do touch
53:21
Speaker 2: on what charitable foundations are doing, particularly the bigger ones
53:24
Speaker 2: like your open societies and that kind of thing. But
53:26
Speaker 2: these local foundations one in basically every county around the UK,
53:31
Speaker 2: which are completely into linked with and probably i would
53:35
Speaker 2: say indistinguishable from the royal apparatus in the country, are
53:43
Speaker 2: absolutely driving this agenda forward and appear to be linked
53:46
Speaker 2: into all of these issues around rewilding and the transformation
53:49
Speaker 2: of our food system, which opposes extraordinary national security issues
53:54
Speaker 2: right because we don't come anywhere near being able to
53:57
Speaker 2: feed ourselves at the moment, we're going to rewild when
54:01
Speaker 2: we should be farming.
54:02
Speaker 1: You know, lots of questions, but this is new politics.
54:05
Speaker 1: This is what politics really looks like. Westminster Absolute Theater.
54:11
Speaker 1: This is real politics. This is how society, individuals, families
54:16
Speaker 1: are going to be controlled.
54:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Final thing I will just flug up about
54:21
Speaker 2: mister Lowe, which is that actually a lot of his
54:25
Speaker 2: wealth seems to come from this company, Low and Oliver,
54:28
Speaker 2: which is an electrical and mechanical contracting business. It's been
54:34
Speaker 2: in the family for about one hundred years. They work
54:36
Speaker 2: across lots of different sectors, museums, residential education, and it
54:43
Speaker 2: looks like it was really good company. Actually clearly very
54:47
Speaker 2: well run, well accredited, good business. And by the way,
54:51
Speaker 2: I have no issue with people being successful business people.
54:54
Speaker 2: I'm not like that. You know. My background is working
54:57
Speaker 2: in industry and I see no issue this at all,
55:01
Speaker 2: no issue with people being wealthy. The question is what
55:04
Speaker 2: are you doing with that money? And well also how
55:06
Speaker 2: did you get it? But you know, also how are
55:08
Speaker 2: you behaving when you do have it? But importantly this
55:11
Speaker 2: organization Loan and Oliver. We scroll down right to the
55:14
Speaker 2: bottom of the website, we can see that it operates
55:17
Speaker 2: by royal appointment.
55:19
Speaker 1: Which is quite an accolade for people to obtain that.
55:22
Speaker 2: So exactly, yes, so again, mister Lowe appears to be
55:28
Speaker 2: talking a good game on a lot of nationalist issues.
55:31
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of excitement, a lot of members
55:33
Speaker 2: coming into the party. But he's very closely connected into
55:38
Speaker 2: the cities we talked about last week, but also into
55:41
Speaker 2: the royal networks and as we talk about adds infinitum
55:46
Speaker 2: on the UK column, King Charles the Windsors more broadly,
55:52
Speaker 2: as well as many other elite international families are the
55:55
Speaker 2: ones calling the shots in the transformation of our societies
55:58
Speaker 2: at the moment environmental matters and particularly as it relates
56:03
Speaker 2: to environmental matters. Yeah, so again questions to be asked.
56:07
Speaker 1: Okay, excellent. I'm just looking at the queue here. What
56:11
Speaker 1: is this one that we've got here?
56:13
Speaker 2: And we can flick on from right.
56:15
Speaker 1: So let's bring this up on screen because in the
56:19
Speaker 1: introduction to today's news I said the government was changing
56:24
Speaker 1: family courts. This is unbelievably dangerous. So this is the
56:28
Speaker 1: announcement Government moves to protect children from abusive parents through
56:33
Speaker 1: new courts and tribunals Bill The change means the courts
56:38
Speaker 1: will no longer start from an assumption that parental involvement
56:42
Speaker 1: is always in a child's best interest, and instead adopt
56:46
Speaker 1: an open minded inquiry into what is in a child's
56:50
Speaker 1: best interest. Now this is so dangerous is because many
56:55
Speaker 1: people would think this is a step in the right direction,
56:58
Speaker 1: that it's about getting a grip of the family courts
57:02
Speaker 1: and some of the appalling decisions they make. But actually
57:06
Speaker 1: this is stripping away the bond between parents and their
57:11
Speaker 1: children and effectively saying the state knows better if we haven't.
57:16
Speaker 1: Look at what Lammy actually said, because he's quoted in
57:19
Speaker 1: the announcement, he said, every child deserves to be safe,
57:22
Speaker 1: every victim deserves to be heard, and every family deserves
57:26
Speaker 1: a justice system they can trust. We need to make
57:29
Speaker 1: sure that what happened to Claire. He's talking to Claire
57:32
Speaker 1: thross Or will look at her in just a minute
57:35
Speaker 1: and her children never happens again. This government's priority is
57:40
Speaker 1: to bring our justice system back from the brink. That
57:44
Speaker 1: means making sure the safety and welfare of children remains
57:47
Speaker 1: at the heart of every decision, and that's why we
57:50
Speaker 1: are repealing the presumption of parental involvement through the Courts
57:54
Speaker 1: and Tribunal Bill. And if we bring the last bit
57:58
Speaker 1: of his remarks, this is a landmark moment that I
58:02
Speaker 1: want to dedicate to the remarkable Claire Throstle and to
58:05
Speaker 1: the memory of her two children, Jack and Paul. Her
58:08
Speaker 1: selfless campaign is helping us rebuild a justice system that
58:13
Speaker 1: is fair, compassionate and with children safety at heart. Remember,
58:18
Speaker 1: what's really happening is he is stripping even more power
58:23
Speaker 1: away from parents to be involved with their children and
58:27
Speaker 1: to defend their children. Now, to give credit to Claire,
58:31
Speaker 1: if we just pop her up on screen, this lady
58:34
Speaker 1: you can find at Women's Aid tragic story behind her
58:39
Speaker 1: case in that her two sons, Jack twelve and Paul
58:42
Speaker 1: nine were killed by their father despite her warnings that
58:47
Speaker 1: he was a danger to them. She has since campaigned
58:51
Speaker 1: tirelist stop unsafe child contact with dangerous perpetrates of domestic abuse. Now,
58:57
Speaker 1: in this one paragraph, if we think of it, she
59:01
Speaker 1: is actually she's challenging the very system which Lammy is
59:07
Speaker 1: trying to put in power because as a parent, it
59:10
Speaker 1: was her warnings that the court ignored. So the state system,
59:16
Speaker 1: the family court ignored the parental warnings of this mother
59:21
Speaker 1: and as a result, the two children died. And what
59:25
Speaker 1: Lammy is now saying is that we're going to strip
59:27
Speaker 1: away that power from parents. It is going to be
59:31
Speaker 1: the state that presumably makes more crass, stupid decisions which
59:37
Speaker 1: ultimately result in damage to children. To give credit to
59:41
Speaker 1: the lady, this is just the second paragraph that's on
59:45
Speaker 1: the website. Due to her commitment and resolve, family courts
59:49
Speaker 1: are safer. It's now mandatory for the courts to determine
59:53
Speaker 1: whether children will be at risk of harm from a
59:55
Speaker 1: contact order, and perpetrators are no longer able to cross
59:59
Speaker 1: examine their victims in court. Now I have to say
1:00:02
Speaker 1: to the audience today, this is tragic because clearly this
1:00:06
Speaker 1: lady is well intentioned. She done some really amazing work
1:00:11
Speaker 1: over the years, but she does not understand what's coming
1:00:14
Speaker 1: through the pipeline. These are some of her quotes, because
1:00:18
Speaker 1: she's quoted in the government's press release on this. So
1:00:21
Speaker 1: we bring this up on screen. For a decade, I've
1:00:24
Speaker 1: been campaigning with a Woman's Aid to change the family
1:00:28
Speaker 1: court system to make sure that no child is ever
1:00:30
Speaker 1: again placed at risk of further harm from abusive parents.
1:00:35
Speaker 1: Seeing that the presumption of parental contact will finally be
1:00:39
Speaker 1: repealed and in memory of my sons Jack and Paul
1:00:42
Speaker 1: is deeply meaningful. No child should have to hold out
1:00:46
Speaker 1: a hand for help in darkness saying that they were
1:00:50
Speaker 1: hurt by someone who was meant to protect them. And lastly,
1:00:54
Speaker 1: no parents should have to hold their children as they
1:00:57
Speaker 1: die from the abuse of a perpetrat as I did
1:01:01
Speaker 1: eleven years ago. Absolutely tragic story, but remember what the
1:01:07
Speaker 1: circumstances were. This brave, kind, loving mother did the right
1:01:13
Speaker 1: thing and it was the state that failed and resulted
1:01:18
Speaker 1: in ultimately the death of her two children. Now, I'd
1:01:21
Speaker 1: like say to our audience today in March twenty twenty
1:01:24
Speaker 1: six that over nearly twenty years, the UK Column has
1:01:29
Speaker 1: warned and warned of the immense dangers of family courts
1:01:34
Speaker 1: and the removal of parental rights. I'm just going to
1:01:37
Speaker 1: bring up some of the articles that are on the
1:01:40
Speaker 1: UK Column website where we're talking about this issue. Children
1:01:44
Speaker 1: taken away from their parents and then brutalized in the
1:01:49
Speaker 1: state supposed protection system, social workers coming forward to blow
1:01:54
Speaker 1: the whistle on their own organizations. That's one page up
1:02:00
Speaker 1: some more articles so that our audience knows what we're
1:02:03
Speaker 1: saying is absolutely correct. We have warned and warned as
1:02:07
Speaker 1: to what the state has been up to. And lastly,
1:02:10
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring in this article from twenty seventeen
1:02:14
Speaker 1: where David Scott was warning about the noted the named
1:02:19
Speaker 1: parent scheme in Scotland. Whether state said every child should
1:02:23
Speaker 1: have a state appointed guardian and that was overturned ultimately
1:02:28
Speaker 1: with pressure from people in Scotland. But in this article
1:02:32
Speaker 1: that David wrote no business of the state, there's a
1:02:35
Speaker 1: quote from Sir James Mumby, who was former President of
1:02:38
Speaker 1: the Family Law Division, and he said, and this is
1:02:42
Speaker 1: pre twenty seventeen. Put starkly, the state, by its actions
1:02:46
Speaker 1: has denied these parents the right to decide for themselves
1:02:50
Speaker 1: within the privacy of the family. What in their view
1:02:54
Speaker 1: was devoted parents is in the best interests of their children,
1:02:59
Speaker 1: a matter which, to speak plainly, is no business of
1:03:03
Speaker 1: the state. So President of the Family Law Divisions, James Mumby,
1:03:08
Speaker 1: got the issue. But lammy, David, lammy, now overturning this
1:03:14
Speaker 1: and giving the state even more power over youngsters truly shocking. Now, Ben,
1:03:22
Speaker 1: I'm watching the clock. We've got we wanted to talk
1:03:26
Speaker 1: about sixteen year olds and the vote. I think if
1:03:30
Speaker 1: we just touch on it and we'll bring the bulk
1:03:33
Speaker 1: of the discussion into extra.
1:03:35
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. So last week the Representation of the
1:03:39
Speaker 2: People Bill twenty twenty four to twenty six had a
1:03:42
Speaker 2: second reading and has commons. A lot of stuff in there,
1:03:46
Speaker 2: but the most important thing, the real headline, the one
1:03:49
Speaker 2: that you would have heard about, is that Part one
1:03:50
Speaker 2: of the bill would make the necessary changes to electoral
1:03:53
Speaker 2: law to lower the voting age for reserved elections from
1:03:56
Speaker 2: eighteen to sixteen give sixteen year old the vote. Well,
1:04:00
Speaker 2: certainly will if it passes the House of Lords. Importantly,
1:04:03
Speaker 2: you want to understand, well, where's this coming from. Why
1:04:06
Speaker 2: are they pushing so hard on this, And well we
1:04:08
Speaker 2: know why. It is because they've captured the minds of
1:04:10
Speaker 2: young people and if they can turn them into a
1:04:12
Speaker 2: democratic force, a very energetic democratic force, and that will
1:04:16
Speaker 2: help them to progress their agenda. And right behind it
1:04:19
Speaker 2: is this organization my life might say, I've spoken about
1:04:23
Speaker 2: them a lot. Previously supposed charity, a youth led charity
1:04:28
Speaker 2: coordinating in the country's extension of the franchise, which is
1:04:31
Speaker 2: the votes of sixteen franchise. Apparently they are coordinating it.
1:04:35
Speaker 2: It's literally what it says on their Twitter page. I've
1:04:38
Speaker 2: spoken about some of the organizations around this My life
1:04:41
Speaker 2: might say it's just extraordinary, including roth Child and co
1:04:45
Speaker 2: Tony Blair and Mayor in London, Secret Intelligence Service, the
1:04:48
Speaker 2: US State Department. I mean, we could sit here all afternoon.
1:04:51
Speaker 2: It's been incredible the amount of organizations and people circulating
1:04:56
Speaker 2: this charity over the past ten years or so since
1:05:01
Speaker 2: it was set up. And they're absolutely running the campaigns
1:05:04
Speaker 2: for this v sixteen votes to sixteen. They want to
1:05:07
Speaker 2: update democracy. They're a candidate of choice right and this
1:05:11
Speaker 2: nationalist I think particularly to hear this, the people that
1:05:15
Speaker 2: being that are really pulling the strings in the country
1:05:18
Speaker 2: at the moment want this guy to be the next
1:05:21
Speaker 2: leader of the country. Not Rupert Low, probably not even
1:05:23
Speaker 2: for our frankly, looking at the way he's performing, it's
1:05:26
Speaker 2: all about putting this guy forward and directly behind my
1:05:29
Speaker 2: life my say, he's straight into Oh look there's the
1:05:32
Speaker 2: King again. Talked about him earlier. And it's not just
1:05:35
Speaker 2: the King, it's not just my life, my say, it's
1:05:37
Speaker 2: the whole ecosystem, full factor in the mix. They've been
1:05:40
Speaker 2: talking a lot recently about the fears that they have.
1:05:43
Speaker 2: We're really scared that sixteen year olds won't be able
1:05:46
Speaker 2: to make decisions. So we've got to intervene, and we've
1:05:49
Speaker 2: got to help school strengthen media literacy, and we've got
1:05:53
Speaker 2: to create a national plan, and we've got to embed
1:05:57
Speaker 2: more money and more education, and the Electoral Commission's got
1:06:01
Speaker 2: to get involved, and we've got to get social media
1:06:04
Speaker 2: company to actively support people who can't understand the difference
1:06:08
Speaker 2: between AI and reality, and all of which kind of
1:06:10
Speaker 2: suggests to me that probably this isn't a very good idea,
1:06:13
Speaker 2: but pushing ahead with it anyway.
1:06:15
Speaker 1: So keep it there. Of course, the government stopping youngsters
1:06:20
Speaker 1: looking at any form of alternative media new media that's
1:06:25
Speaker 1: going to be controlled. So they're going to live their
1:06:27
Speaker 1: lives up to sixteen with government controlled media and then bang,
1:06:31
Speaker 1: they're given the vote. This is about control and we'll
1:06:34
Speaker 1: discuss it more in UK column Extra in a few minutes.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: We must end there, my goodness, so much going on
1:06:41
Speaker 1: in the world, it's difficult to pack it all in.
1:06:45
Speaker 1: But one thing for sure is that there is a
1:06:48
Speaker 1: cause of the wars and the violence and the deaths overseas.
1:06:53
Speaker 1: We can see the people, we can see the organizations,
1:06:57
Speaker 1: but we've got to be brave enough to stay end
1:07:00
Speaker 1: up and call them out. And we've certainly got to
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