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Capítulo 023: ¡Es un escándalo! · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio. Radio Radio's a Myth and Bullshit a radio phonic
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Speaker 1: novella Radio hosted by Malama Loka Morres. Welcome back to
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Speaker 1: Local Radio. Welcome back to Brown Girl. Our this is
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Speaker 1: THEOS and this is my last look at a radio
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Speaker 1: is a podcast archiving the brilliance and legacies of women
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Speaker 1: and fems of color, and this is welcome. I cannot
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Speaker 1: every time we record. I'm honestly just beside myself with
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Speaker 1: with how many we've done at this point. Listen for
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Speaker 1: the last year I wrote personally as a goal that
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Speaker 1: Local thought I would have ten episodes, and look at it.
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Speaker 1: We are double look at us now. I am very
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Speaker 1: thrilled to be here today, so am I. And you
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Speaker 1: know what, Like I was just thinking that, you know,
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Speaker 1: I've started other projects in the past, Like I think
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Speaker 1: all of us have lots of ideas we want to
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Speaker 1: do different projects. We might get something started, but for
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Speaker 1: me to actually like commit to something like this that
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Speaker 1: is like independent. We're not really getting paid for it.
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Speaker 1: It's not mandatory, it's not school, it's not work. But
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Speaker 1: we have like stuck it out and we're doing it.
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Speaker 1: I'm very impressed with us. Yeah, you know, I really
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Speaker 1: think it when you have a partner to hold the
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Speaker 1: both of you accountable. Oh yeah, and be like, bitch,
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Speaker 1: you said you were going to do this exactly, so
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Speaker 1: let's get it date, let's get it done. And then also,
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Speaker 1: of course our local their support. Honestly, like, the amount
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Speaker 1: of love that we get from our listeners is a
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Speaker 1: huge motivating factor. I completely agree that the ms, the
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Speaker 1: common the replies to our story is everything everything. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you guys ride for us, You ride for us so much.
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Speaker 1: In fact, we have so many updates, so let's get started.
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Speaker 1: So we want to congratulate our dear friend for her
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Speaker 1: book release, as they all remember for Cano, so we
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Speaker 1: did an interview with her. So since then she had
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Speaker 1: her book release party for yes, and oh my god,
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Speaker 1: the book release, like, Yessica blew that ship out of
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Speaker 1: the water, Like, I don't know the last time a
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Speaker 1: book of poetry had a book release that was so
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Speaker 1: fucking lit and turned up and it was a it
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Speaker 1: was a poetry party, Yessica, I like dubbed her officially
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Speaker 1: the high Priestess of poetry, Like she really summoned all
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Speaker 1: these badass bitches to come out to her event. She
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Speaker 1: had all these amazing poets, like legendary poems. It was
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Speaker 1: for me. People got to a full house, full house,
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Speaker 1: people got turned away, like you said, and it was
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Speaker 1: so fun and we laughed, we cried, we were just moved.
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Speaker 1: It was fun. Like Cardian b was playing. It was
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Speaker 1: everything that you could hope for. I was really happy
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Speaker 1: for her, me too, and her beautiful Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: I'm a listener, A follower had made for her right.
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Speaker 1: So it was just such a beautiful night of love
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Speaker 1: and good energy and feelings and fierceness. At the same time.
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Speaker 1: We felt lots of feelings. We were feeling the field.
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Speaker 1: Mama was there looking like a beautiful lemon. Thank you,
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I loved my fashion Nova outfit.
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Speaker 1: When I saw it, I was like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: Jackie from that seventy show is a millennial chicano An.
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Speaker 1: I fucking love it. I'm so into it because I
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Speaker 1: feel like the clothes in the seventies, especially when we
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Speaker 1: think about like the tight pants right ending. I think
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Speaker 1: it's the combination of the pants being both flared at
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Speaker 1: the bottom but also being form fitting anti wasted. It's
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Speaker 1: the best for like a curvy bitch like myself. That
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Speaker 1: is the sort of like detail ling that really helps
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Speaker 1: to balance out your shape and it's very complementary. So
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Speaker 1: I'm really into it. I love it. Mama rocks the
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Speaker 1: funk out of a two piece set, so she was
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Speaker 1: looking like a beautiful lemon um and then you know,
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Speaker 1: folks got turned away. But fortunately, fortunately, and you know
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Speaker 1: Yessica had no control over that. By the way, it
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Speaker 1: was like, just what is it when you can't have
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Speaker 1: more than X amount of people with the capacity people
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Speaker 1: if you don't want the fire marshal to come. So
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Speaker 1: I mean, in addition, she's also having a second book
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Speaker 1: release because she's extra, we are extra and we're hosting it.
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Speaker 1: So we're super excited. What are the details, Mala. So
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Speaker 1: on November eleven, we will be here at EsPAS Et
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Speaker 1: nine on First Street in Boil Heights, Mariachi Plaza Espasio.
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Speaker 1: As you all know, we record at Radio Espasio. You know,
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Speaker 1: love Tanico and Myra for having the space here available
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Speaker 1: for the community to create, you know, and that's that's
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Speaker 1: what we're able to do here and that's why, look
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Speaker 1: it is even possible. So we're basically gonna do like
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Speaker 1: a moderated like talkback Q and a UM with Yessica abouton.
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of gonna be like a live version
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Speaker 1: of our interview with her of our so come on out.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be really fun. And this Saturday, I
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Speaker 1: believe it's at seven, there's a Facebook in Bye. There's
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Speaker 1: an I G flyer floating around the Yessica created and
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Speaker 1: we'll share that. Well she haven't shared it yet, but
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Speaker 1: we will, yes um and then other big news, other
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Speaker 1: big news we um. Like we were talking about our
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Speaker 1: listeners are look on what is really right for us
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Speaker 1: and in one way that they were writing for us,
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Speaker 1: like even we didn't ask for it, it just happened,
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Speaker 1: you know, had been putting out this list of like
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Speaker 1: Latino podcast you need to like listen to, and they like,
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Speaker 1: we're sharing it for a long time and we weren't
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Speaker 1: on it, and so our listeners kept commenting. Our listeners
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Speaker 1: kept commenting like, hey, you need to put look I
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Speaker 1: thought our radio in here, like what are you doing?
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Speaker 1: And Gothic on Cheeseman. There were several that they were
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Speaker 1: like advocating for us. And one of those listeners with
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Speaker 1: somebody named Vincent right who was the leave baby right. Well,
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Speaker 1: there were several who were like really like writing for us,
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Speaker 1: So finally came out with a whole new list of
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Speaker 1: like Latino X like fem podcast. Yeah, it's like twelve
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Speaker 1: pm driven Latino podcast to help you cope with Yes,
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Speaker 1: and that's what we've been trying to do. So we
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Speaker 1: came out on that list and we are image was
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Speaker 1: like the cover image. We were so excited. So shout
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Speaker 1: out to Zuli ros Yes, Rose, I can never say anything.
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Speaker 1: Also known as the Crunchhaw Proletarium. Yes, um, she actually
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Speaker 1: did that photo. We have more photos that we haven't shared,
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Speaker 1: so many, so many, but we love this photo. We
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Speaker 1: love Zuli. She's so amazing. She's a Libra. She did
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Speaker 1: our photos. She's super down, she's amazing. Follow her if
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Speaker 1: you want a photo shoot or something, you need something
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Speaker 1: for a project, hit her up. She takes bombas photos
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Speaker 1: and she has a protfolio portfolio online that you can
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Speaker 1: also gap. Um. So thank you Yahdra Simon for reaching out.
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Speaker 1: And our rompers that everybody was talking about. Our Latino
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Speaker 1: print rampers are of course designed and made by the
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Speaker 1: one and only Kelly, So if you like those rompers,
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Speaker 1: she has other rampers and clothes leggy and stresses she has.
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Speaker 1: We were really torn between because she has this exact
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Speaker 1: same ramper but with in Pananas, and we were torn
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Speaker 1: like do we want Plato or do we want Inanas?
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Speaker 1: And we of course we want them with the bad
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Speaker 1: but so many good prints, so many great merge that
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Speaker 1: she has. So support um and then you know, shout
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Speaker 1: out to our faith that we're on the list like
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Speaker 1: Bitter Brown Fems doing It, Gathic on Cheeseman, Stupid Mamastos
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Speaker 1: and other other dope fem driven podcast um. And then
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Speaker 1: that night we for the following day we went to
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Speaker 1: celebrate with Unsandoing It and Gothic on Cheeseman because we
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Speaker 1: were super excited and we're so excited and it's it's
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Speaker 1: an accomplishment. We had to go have a drink. We did,
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Speaker 1: had to drink to it, and we did. Was super cute.
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Speaker 1: It was super cute. We had a great time with
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Speaker 1: all of this. So thank you YadA Zuli side Off
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Speaker 1: for it was a team, a team and our listeners
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Speaker 1: and to the person to put the article together to
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Speaker 1: get there. Manuel bed in Court, Oh my god, so
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Speaker 1: tell me why I sent the article. I was all
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Speaker 1: excited about arms the feature. So I sent it to
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Speaker 1: my family in our group chat, right and I was like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, look check out. Look at the podcast.
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Speaker 1: So no one in my family replied, no one said
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Speaker 1: anything to me at all. And then my dad like
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Speaker 1: made dinner, and so to the group chat. The next text,
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Speaker 1: after my link to ars article, nothing else, he starts
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Speaker 1: sending pictures of like the food that he made that night.
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Speaker 1: He's like, hey, I made this if anyone wants to
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Speaker 1: come have dinner. And then I asked my mom in person.
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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, did you see the article, because
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Speaker 1: now I'm like, wait, why isn't anybody saying anything. I
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Speaker 1: was like, Mom, did you see our artic goal? She goes, oh, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I saw you had sent it to us, and she goes,
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Speaker 1: who wrote it? He seems very handsome. That's the writer.
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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. More importantly, who wrote it? But who wrote
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Speaker 1: it's cute? That's funny. I love it. Yeah, so thank
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Speaker 1: you again, thank you. And then this is the very
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Speaker 1: first time we're talking about it, but we're actually launching
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Speaker 1: a Patreon and as you listen, this will be available.
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Speaker 1: So we're launching it at the exact same time this
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Speaker 1: is live, so we created a Patreon. We have different
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Speaker 1: incentives for our localmotives and we want to read them
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Speaker 1: to y'all and talk about it because they're really really
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Speaker 1: they're really cute. So our first tier is two dollars
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Speaker 1: and it's standard our local and then the next one
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Speaker 1: my lad we and also we came up with these
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Speaker 1: like tears Um yesterday and we're really proud of them,
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Speaker 1: especially the names that we've been given to them. So
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Speaker 1: the next one is La No, the next one is sorry,
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Speaker 1: I'm getting ahead of myself, and the Lamasa that's the
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Speaker 1: final one. That's the final one. And then each tier
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Speaker 1: has different incentives which y'all can read about. And you know,
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Speaker 1: our locomotives have asked different ways that they can support us,
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Speaker 1: and this was one way that y'all can help in
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Speaker 1: the production of the podcast because y'all know that you're
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Speaker 1: an essential part of us even creating. So if you
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Speaker 1: if it's available to you, if you can donate, that
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Speaker 1: would be amazing. If not, that's totally cool. If you
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Speaker 1: want to go ahead and share it, that would be
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Speaker 1: awesome as well. Yeah, and you know, we we really
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Speaker 1: did want to come out with like the Patreon and
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Speaker 1: and put other stuff out there besides are twice a
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Speaker 1: month like episodes. Because we really have had listeners like
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Speaker 1: dm ng us commenting on stuff asking like how can
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Speaker 1: we support, Like where can we under support even if
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Speaker 1: we want to contribute money if we want to send
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Speaker 1: you stuff people, So we decided, okay, people are asking
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Speaker 1: for it, so this is one way that we can
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Speaker 1: a po box. That's something we've talked about in the future. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's also a good way for
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Speaker 1: So we're really excited to be launching this Patreon. So
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Speaker 1: you're like this is a terrible idea, right, And in
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Speaker 1: addition to the Patreon, we also put out our venmo. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: We might do that through the VENMO. If you just
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Speaker 1: So I want to thank the folks that have already
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Speaker 1: donated to the VENMO already. Yeah, so much appreciation and
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Speaker 1: love to y'all for donating, um and writing us cute
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Speaker 1: little messages along with your donation. So no that we
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Speaker 1: value you, we appreciate you, we love you, thank you,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Um. So with that, I think
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Speaker 1: we're actually going to go into a song break early
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Speaker 1: because we have a lot of content for today and
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Speaker 1: friends and friends and friends and friends, friends and friends
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Speaker 1: and friends and friends and we're bad, all right, So
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Speaker 1: let's get into our main, our main exactly meeting. This
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Speaker 1: has been like obviously, like the entire year has been
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Speaker 1: a whirlwind, and there's always a crisis and some blow up,
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Speaker 1: some scandal something going on, and most recently, what's really
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Speaker 1: just shaken up, um, Hollywood, all over the news, all
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Speaker 1: over media has been you know, the sexual abuses and
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Speaker 1: harassment committed by Harvey Weinstein and all of his decades
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Speaker 1: of harassing and assaulting and abusing women in Hollywood now
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Speaker 1: being exposed, finally publicly, something that the Street has known about,
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Speaker 1: has talked about, rumored, you know, obviously for somebody of
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Speaker 1: that big right, for these hundreds of cases to never
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Speaker 1: really make it publicly. He had people helping him to
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Speaker 1: cover it up, right, But now it's it's all been exposed.
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Speaker 1: I mean, men like Ben Affleck and Matt Damon like,
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Speaker 1: we're also you know, out it. In the process of
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Speaker 1: them basically lending their voice and speaking out against Harvey Weinstein,
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Speaker 1: then all these other people came out of the woodwork
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Speaker 1: and they were like, well, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: The word I'm looking for I was looking for is
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Speaker 1: like they were accomplices as well as how many of
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Speaker 1: these men knew what was going on. But we're like,
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Speaker 1: this doesn't concern me, right, everybody everybody, everybody that worked
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Speaker 1: around Weinstein, next to him, over him, under him. I
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Speaker 1: mean it goes back to the not all men, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, that's not my problem. I didn't do it.
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Speaker 1: I think it's ties into what we've talked about in
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Speaker 1: this in this on the show before with Creature and
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Speaker 1: cheesemans ethical cheeseman. Right, So it's like an unspoken thing
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Speaker 1: of how do the how did these women keep each
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Speaker 1: other safe? And were they letting each other know like, hey,
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Speaker 1: did did you work with him? Did something happen? Are
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Speaker 1: you okay? Type of thing? Right, What we're hearing from
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Speaker 1: a lot of the different actresses is there really was
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Speaker 1: this sort of unspoken rule like don't take a meeting
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Speaker 1: alone with Harvey Weinstein because we've heard these horror stories
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Speaker 1: and we know that this can happen, right, And so
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Speaker 1: what we've seen from this Harvey wein Weinstein cases that
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Speaker 1: there was a hashtag kit that came out of it, right,
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Speaker 1: So the hashtag me too, UM, and I also wanted
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Speaker 1: to give some some history that UM. A black woman
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Speaker 1: named Toronto Burke created a nonprofit that helps victims of
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Speaker 1: sexual harassment and assault. So she wanted to give resources
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Speaker 1: to survivors, especially resources she didn't see you were available
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Speaker 1: or that were available to her. And she named her
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Speaker 1: movement met to, so also giving her credit to the
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Speaker 1: me me to hashtag. Yeah, and I read you know
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Speaker 1: this article They had interviewed her and UM on CNN
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Speaker 1: dot com. This piece came out about Toronto Burke and
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Speaker 1: the origins of the me to campaign, And she talks about,
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Speaker 1: you know, being a camp counselor and having a young girl, um,
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Speaker 1: come up to her and disclose really horrific details of
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Speaker 1: the child sexual abuse she was experiencing and at the time,
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Speaker 1: Toronto Burke not knowing what to say or how to respond,
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Speaker 1: and not feeling equipped to help this young girl and
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Speaker 1: instead telling her, you know, I don't think I can
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Speaker 1: help you. Maybe I can send redirect you to a
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Speaker 1: different counselor. And how and Toronto Burke talked about in
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Speaker 1: the CNN article how that moment really haunted her, you know,
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Speaker 1: and why couldn't she muster up the response for her
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Speaker 1: or muster up the courage to say, well, me too, honey,
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Speaker 1: It's not just you, me too? And like the me
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Speaker 1: too movement being a conversation between survivors. I've heard Toronto
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Speaker 1: talk about that being her intention, you know, like a
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Speaker 1: solidarity movement, right And then so we can see that
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Speaker 1: how that was happening online, right like virtually, like folks
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Speaker 1: survivors connecting with each other with the hashtag meat too
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Speaker 1: write and um, I think that what we wanted to
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Speaker 1: do in talking about Harvey Weinstein, you know, we wanted
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Speaker 1: to give the general overview of what's going on, but
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Speaker 1: we want to give our own perspective and our own take, right.
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Speaker 1: And of course you know we record here in l A.
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Speaker 1: We're both like born and raised in Los Angeles. UM,
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Speaker 1: Hollywood is a big part of l A. Although there
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Speaker 1: are so many different parts of l A. And for
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Speaker 1: every Harvey Weinstein, for every Um you know, Dr Luke,
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Speaker 1: for every producer and media mogul who has assaulted and
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Speaker 1: harassed high powered, wealthy white women who are actresses and
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Speaker 1: singers and artists who have teams of attorneys, those same
17:56
Speaker 1: men also have access to lots of other types of
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Speaker 1: women and right, so we here are we're hearing a
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Speaker 1: lot in the Weinstein situation from white actresses, right, even
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Speaker 1: the likes of Angelina Jolie, like big names Gwyneth Paltrow
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Speaker 1: and UM. But we haven't really heard from our women
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Speaker 1: of color, both who are working as actresses and otherwise
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Speaker 1: who these men would have proximity too. And it was
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Speaker 1: just recently, actually that Lupita Nyongo came out with an
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Speaker 1: op ed that she wrote UM talking about what she
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Speaker 1: experienced with Harvey Weinstein and that she too had been
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Speaker 1: sexually harassed by him and made very uncomfortable. So she
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Speaker 1: wrote an op ed um for The New York Times,
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Speaker 1: and I would really encourage you to check it out
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Speaker 1: and read her words. Um. And this was an experience
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Speaker 1: she had um while she was still a student at
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Speaker 1: the Yale School of Drama, so before her career really
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Speaker 1: even took off. And one of the reasons why she
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Speaker 1: was really, you know, scared about dealing with him or
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Speaker 1: talking about him, was because he made a comment to
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Speaker 1: her that you know, I'm sure you'll be fine, but
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Speaker 1: I don't know if your career will be fine, right
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Speaker 1: if she she wasn't willing to engage with him in
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Speaker 1: like this inappropriate behavior, right, right, And that's the fear
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Speaker 1: I think, uh, in in any position, like as a survivor,
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Speaker 1: you wonder what's going to happen when you reveal who
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Speaker 1: the perpetrator is, right, especially if this person is in
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Speaker 1: a position of power as a professor, a teacher, some
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Speaker 1: type of person in the community that has like all
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Speaker 1: this quote respect. So there's always that fear of like, well,
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Speaker 1: is anyone even going to believe me? And then what's
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Speaker 1: going to happen to me when all of my ship
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Speaker 1: is out there exactly, So we're not hearing from women
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Speaker 1: of color because you know, clearly women of color, as
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Speaker 1: far as hierarchies goes, are much lower on the totem
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Speaker 1: pole than white women. UM And I also want us
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Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, being from l A, growing
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Speaker 1: up in l A, Latinos, the Latino community, we have
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Speaker 1: a lot of proximity to Hollywood. We have lot of
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Speaker 1: interaction with Hollywood, not necessarily um as decision makers or
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Speaker 1: power players or owners of companies. Um and they're really
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Speaker 1: but we exist in a lot of ways like doing
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Speaker 1: like you need to think of the fact that wealthy
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Speaker 1: people on the West Side, that actors and actresses have
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Speaker 1: teams and throngs of gardeners, of domestic help, of nanni's
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Speaker 1: of maids. They don't raise their own kids. Right. So
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Speaker 1: you can bet that for every Harvey Weinstein, how many
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Speaker 1: women of color were around him all those years, working
20:36
Speaker 1: in his home, working in his offices, janitors who tend
20:40
Speaker 1: to be women, women of color, undocumented women, right, and
20:45
Speaker 1: how many of them have experienced abuse from these executives,
20:49
Speaker 1: and they really will never be able to talk about
20:52
Speaker 1: what happened to them. We really will never hear their stories?
20:55
Speaker 1: Yeah you yeah, you bring a really great point. Um So,
20:59
Speaker 1: what so what does mean when you're essentially voiceless? Right? So,
21:03
Speaker 1: who gets to hear your story? Who get who do
21:05
Speaker 1: you get to tell? When you're so low on the
21:09
Speaker 1: totem pole, Like you said, in the hierarchy, we're talking
21:11
Speaker 1: about race, and then we're also talking about class, right
21:14
Speaker 1: and gender absolutely so, so what resources exactly and the
21:19
Speaker 1: reason why, you know, I want us to imagine and
21:25
Speaker 1: consider the very high likelihood that you know, women of
21:29
Speaker 1: color employed by these men, especially even at the lowest levels,
21:34
Speaker 1: as as far as power recognition, social capital, as domestic helpers,
21:39
Speaker 1: as as janitors. Um is, because there is a history,
21:43
Speaker 1: a very long history, a reality of women working in
21:47
Speaker 1: those positions being raped by the men that are employing them,
21:52
Speaker 1: being harassed by the families that employ them. There's a
21:55
Speaker 1: very long history that includes history of you know, the
22:00
Speaker 1: institution of American slavery in the United States and how
22:03
Speaker 1: sexual violence was a very real, everyday part of slavery
22:09
Speaker 1: of the institution, and it's something that we have seen
22:12
Speaker 1: historical examples of men in power having inappropriate relationships with
22:17
Speaker 1: the women employed in their homes. Right, And we do
22:19
Speaker 1: have an example, We do have an example. So was
22:22
Speaker 1: this what the early two thousands, And it's been a
22:25
Speaker 1: while in a while, Um, I'm sure you all remember
22:28
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger and his whole scandal. Scandal that was a
22:34
Speaker 1: real was a real scandal. And even when doing the
22:37
Speaker 1: research for this capital So if you all remember, or
22:40
Speaker 1: if you don't remember, let me refresh your memory. So
22:44
Speaker 1: he had a domestic worker, housekeeper. She lived there. Um,
22:49
Speaker 1: her name is Mildred Vienna, and she um had his
22:55
Speaker 1: baby essentially, not essentially, actually she gave birth to the
23:00
Speaker 1: old And when doing the research, come, I came to
23:03
Speaker 1: find out that she was pregnant at the same time
23:05
Speaker 1: that Maria Streiver, his wife, was pregnant with their youngest child.
23:09
Speaker 1: So at the exact same time, these two women living
23:12
Speaker 1: under the same house were pregnant with the same man's child, right, Um,
23:19
Speaker 1: So I mean, and Maria Streiver had no idea, had
23:22
Speaker 1: no idea, And like you know, we can talk about consent,
23:26
Speaker 1: and we can talk about you know, it was a
23:27
Speaker 1: consensual relationship. Maybe it is, maybe it was, maybe it
23:30
Speaker 1: wasn't but when there's that type of power dynamic, you
23:32
Speaker 1: have to wonder like was this actually consensual? Right? Could
23:36
Speaker 1: she have lost her job had she said no? Right?
23:40
Speaker 1: So that there she pressured? Was she pressured? She she
23:44
Speaker 1: was also married, and I don't know if this was
23:47
Speaker 1: her first child. I think it was um but that
23:50
Speaker 1: was a really big deal. That was a really big scandal, right,
23:53
Speaker 1: So this is that was one of the ones that
23:55
Speaker 1: came to light, right it was revealed. And I do
23:58
Speaker 1: want to also point out that any time you have
24:01
Speaker 1: a story breakout in the news about a man in
24:05
Speaker 1: a position of power and like inappropriate or downright violent
24:10
Speaker 1: or abusive like sexual activity, it's always framed as a scandal.
24:15
Speaker 1: Everything is a scandal, and it's like a euphemism to
24:18
Speaker 1: kind of neutralize the power imbalance and to make it
24:21
Speaker 1: seem like, well, nope, these are just two people acting
24:24
Speaker 1: out and being you know, wow, you know, and cheating
24:26
Speaker 1: on everybody. But like they describe Harvey Weinstein as the
24:31
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein scandal, we're talking about literal sexual assault exactly.
24:35
Speaker 1: And there was also it was so frustrating to then
24:39
Speaker 1: I think he started claiming that he was a sex addict.
24:41
Speaker 1: So he had to go to rehab. So, no, I'm
24:43
Speaker 1: not a sexual predators, I'm not a rapist. I have
24:46
Speaker 1: an addiction. No, no, it's not the not the same
24:49
Speaker 1: thing at all. And it's a cop out. It's a
24:51
Speaker 1: cop out. It's a cop out. And so again, any
24:54
Speaker 1: time we hear like stories about women being villain I right,
25:00
Speaker 1: because of their affairs with men in high places. When
25:04
Speaker 1: women and sex and the word scandal are in the news,
25:07
Speaker 1: I have to ask, what really is going on? There
25:11
Speaker 1: is there a power and balance here because usually there
25:14
Speaker 1: is usually there is, yeah, And not only that, but
25:18
Speaker 1: there's like personal stories, right being from l A for example,
25:21
Speaker 1: So like in my family, like my grandmother when she
25:24
Speaker 1: came to the United States, she was sixteen, and almost
25:26
Speaker 1: right away she was working. She was working, like raising
25:30
Speaker 1: kids and working as a nanny, as a domestic worker
25:33
Speaker 1: on the West Side in homes in Beverly Hills. She
25:36
Speaker 1: was working for the families of actors and actresses, which
25:40
Speaker 1: that's not uncommon. A lot of Latinos are working for
25:44
Speaker 1: people in media, people in the industry. It's like almost
25:47
Speaker 1: all of us probably know somebody who works like for
25:51
Speaker 1: a family. It's like Latinos are not in the media,
25:53
Speaker 1: but they're in the background. Yes, they're they're raising these
25:56
Speaker 1: families while these white people get to going building empire.
26:01
Speaker 1: But they're the ones raising the families. So they're very
26:03
Speaker 1: much moving the pieces in the family life. Oh yeah,
26:06
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And like that's why, like Donald Trump talking
26:09
Speaker 1: about how his kids are such a good reflection of him,
26:12
Speaker 1: because he did such a great job raising them. He
26:14
Speaker 1: didn't raise those kids, and neither did their mothers. Those
26:17
Speaker 1: kids were most likely raised by by women of color,
26:20
Speaker 1: immigrant women of color. And so my grandmother and working
26:23
Speaker 1: in these homes you know that were like Hollywood homes,
26:26
Speaker 1: she you know, and like grandmothers have this way of
26:28
Speaker 1: kind of like telling stories of intense trauma, but just
26:31
Speaker 1: kind of like mumbled under their breath, just as an aside,
26:35
Speaker 1: you know, they're not by the way, by the way.
26:36
Speaker 1: And then this happened to me. I'm like, what the fuck?
26:39
Speaker 1: But throughout my life, my grandmother has sprinkled in just
26:42
Speaker 1: like little tidbits here and there of this boss, this employer,
26:46
Speaker 1: this man who works in Hollywood, touching her inappropriately and
26:51
Speaker 1: her having to swat his hand off of her, and
26:53
Speaker 1: finally she elbows him in the crotch because he won't
26:56
Speaker 1: stop massaging her shoulders, or another their employer getting really
27:01
Speaker 1: jealous that she was going to go out to dinner
27:03
Speaker 1: with somebody and he hosed her down in the front
27:05
Speaker 1: yard and just like all these are like, I think
27:08
Speaker 1: that she had got hit a couple of different times. Um.
27:12
Speaker 1: I have a family friend that I grew up with.
27:14
Speaker 1: This girl and her mother is from Mexico City and
27:17
Speaker 1: her mother was employed by the Hilton Harrison Nikki's family
27:22
Speaker 1: and her situation. The cheeseman is that the mean one
27:26
Speaker 1: was Mrs Hilton because homegirl, my friend's mom was like
27:30
Speaker 1: young early twenties, is beautiful Mexicana, brown skin, curly hair,
27:36
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman, and she was she this lady did
27:39
Speaker 1: not like her and was not very nice to her.
27:42
Speaker 1: So we have Hella like, if you want to know
27:44
Speaker 1: about Hollywood families, I suggest find out who works for them,
27:48
Speaker 1: because we're going to have the tea. Well, this is
27:50
Speaker 1: also a good a good transition into a topic that
27:54
Speaker 1: we were talking about, Mama, and I was about the
27:56
Speaker 1: show Devious Maids, And you'll remember when this came out.
27:59
Speaker 1: Even is like one of the creators, producers, whatever and um,
28:04
Speaker 1: there was a lot of controversy because folks were upset
28:07
Speaker 1: that there was going to be a show created about mates,
28:09
Speaker 1: like right, so another trope, right, another stereotype that were
28:13
Speaker 1: more blah blah blah all this stuff. And there's so
28:14
Speaker 1: many nuances in a lot of different ways that you
28:16
Speaker 1: can look at this, but we're not going to talk
28:18
Speaker 1: about that right now. What we're going to talk about
28:20
Speaker 1: how in the show, Like if you've seen, I've watched
28:23
Speaker 1: a few seasons. I like to be critical and see
28:25
Speaker 1: what's out there. So I've watched a few of the
28:28
Speaker 1: seasons and I think that whatever opinion you may have,
28:32
Speaker 1: it does show the sexual violence, the harassments that the
28:36
Speaker 1: white men that are the rich ones that are powerful,
28:39
Speaker 1: that have these mansions in Beverly Hills, and their wives
28:42
Speaker 1: also mistreating the quote made the sexy latinas in the
28:47
Speaker 1: sexy made outfits, uniforms, whatever, and like this type of
28:52
Speaker 1: voyeurism of like the the men watching while they're like
28:55
Speaker 1: dusting and cleaning or even like filming them and they
28:58
Speaker 1: don't know, right, So these different things are portrayed and
29:01
Speaker 1: listening to you talk about your grandma Natcha and the
29:04
Speaker 1: other women that you've heard experience the other women that
29:07
Speaker 1: women that have experienced it. I was also thinking about
29:10
Speaker 1: the show and how it does bring that to light
29:12
Speaker 1: in some way, you know, and of course not in
29:14
Speaker 1: the same way. It's like, definitely it's sucking TV exactly,
29:18
Speaker 1: it's you know, so it's definitely trivialized in a way
29:20
Speaker 1: or maybe downplayed, but it is there, right so, and
29:24
Speaker 1: I think that that's one way that we can even
29:26
Speaker 1: see the show and like that it kind of it
29:29
Speaker 1: gave power to that in a way, power that narrative exactly,
29:32
Speaker 1: or it kind of gave light to that narrative exactly.
29:35
Speaker 1: Because I think, right this, and we were talking about this,
29:38
Speaker 1: why is there such this cultural Why culturally do we
29:42
Speaker 1: have the existence of like the idea of like the
29:45
Speaker 1: sexy made costume, the sexy French maid, right when we
29:49
Speaker 1: know that, like when we're talking about domestic help of
29:53
Speaker 1: a large percentage of those women are going to be
29:56
Speaker 1: like older women, you know, undocumented women like senoras, a
30:01
Speaker 1: lot of times, women of color who have families, and
30:04
Speaker 1: that's like really difficult physical labor. There's really nothing sexy
30:07
Speaker 1: about it. But where has that sexualization come from? Right?
30:13
Speaker 1: We know that, like there's a lot of moheads who
30:16
Speaker 1: work as janitors who have organized against the prevalence of
30:21
Speaker 1: rape of janitors on the night shift. Right, there is
30:24
Speaker 1: a historical linkage between women working, women cleaning, women working
30:30
Speaker 1: in homes and being sexually assaulted. Right, So we see
30:35
Speaker 1: this cultural phenomenon of sexualizing the maid. Well, that's coming
30:39
Speaker 1: from a history of violence, sexual violence towards the main
30:43
Speaker 1: and like colonial violence as well, if we're talking about
30:47
Speaker 1: US slavery as well. Absolutely that sexual assaul sexual assault
30:53
Speaker 1: was a mechanism, a driving mechanism of enslavement, you know,
30:57
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm positive that they're probably is also
31:00
Speaker 1: a history of if we talk about like Spanish Portuguese
31:04
Speaker 1: colonization of native people and forcing Native peoples into these
31:08
Speaker 1: roles and the sexual violence perpetrated against Native peoples who
31:12
Speaker 1: are now working in homes of Spaniards, of colonizers of Europeans.
31:17
Speaker 1: It makes me think of this one scene in Caramelo
31:19
Speaker 1: Um by Santras, which is kind of a subtle scene,
31:24
Speaker 1: but this conversation just kind of like brings me to it.
31:27
Speaker 1: And you know, there's this discussion of you know, Celia,
31:30
Speaker 1: her grandmother in Mexico City, right when she was a
31:34
Speaker 1: young girl, she was a teenager, and she was kind
31:36
Speaker 1: of hired out to this wealthy Mexican or this middle
31:39
Speaker 1: class Mexican family who lived in Mexico City. And so
31:44
Speaker 1: the young woman kind of lives like in the servants quarters,
31:47
Speaker 1: like in the pantry, and the young man of the family, um,
31:50
Speaker 1: you know, who's very attractive. He starts sneaking into her
31:54
Speaker 1: room at night and he starts sleeping with her, right,
31:57
Speaker 1: and so it's supposed to be a love story, right
31:59
Speaker 1: about how she, this poor girl you know from the Gumbo,
32:02
Speaker 1: ends up marrying this this young man who's well er
32:06
Speaker 1: off because she started working for his family. And there's
32:09
Speaker 1: a line in there about how his parents, you know,
32:13
Speaker 1: they kind of knew what was going on, or they
32:15
Speaker 1: would kind of catch him seeking into her room, but
32:18
Speaker 1: they wouldn't say anything to him. And there's a line
32:20
Speaker 1: in Catemello that says, you know, it's kind of just
32:22
Speaker 1: assumed that he has a right to the to the
32:24
Speaker 1: girl who works in the house, right, And that's that
32:27
Speaker 1: dynamic again that the woman working in the home as
32:31
Speaker 1: a servant, as a domestic worker, that her body is
32:35
Speaker 1: also like up for consumption, you know, right, the men
32:39
Speaker 1: have access to it exactly, a right to her, right,
32:43
Speaker 1: And you know, we can see this, like there's this
32:46
Speaker 1: like fascination, this fetization of like sexual assault in the media,
32:52
Speaker 1: like in in film and TV shows, Like there's so
32:57
Speaker 1: like as as you're speaking and as you're you're talking
32:59
Speaker 1: about Garmelo, thinking of all these scenes of like this
33:01
Speaker 1: actually happening right of them, this man in the house
33:05
Speaker 1: sexually assaulting a domestic worker. Right, we've seen this in
33:08
Speaker 1: TV shows, We've seen this in movies. Well, where does
33:11
Speaker 1: that come from? Exactly exactly there's that historical route and
33:16
Speaker 1: it's also just so wild because you can think about
33:19
Speaker 1: the fact that we've talked about this before on the podcast,
33:23
Speaker 1: is that the most dangerous place for you as a
33:26
Speaker 1: woman is probably you know, in your own home, because
33:29
Speaker 1: the person most likely to hurt you, to harm you,
33:31
Speaker 1: to abuse you is someone that you know. It's a
33:33
Speaker 1: family member, it's a friend, it's someone you're in a
33:35
Speaker 1: relationship with. So home itself can be a very dangerous place.
33:39
Speaker 1: But but but work can also be a dangerous place,
33:43
Speaker 1: right because women get harassed and assaulted at work all
33:45
Speaker 1: the time. So now with like at home care attendants, nanny's, maidsgivers.
33:50
Speaker 1: Not only is your home potentially dangerous, you don't know
33:53
Speaker 1: what you're dealing with. At home work is also dangerous,
33:56
Speaker 1: but you literally work in someone else's home, right, you know,
33:59
Speaker 1: and the levels right. And then if you also live
34:02
Speaker 1: for you work, right, there are many housekeepers nannies that
34:05
Speaker 1: live on site. So then what you don't do you
34:09
Speaker 1: have a safe home? No where is your safe space,
34:13
Speaker 1: your safe place as a woman of color, as a
34:15
Speaker 1: low income woman of color, quite possibly undocumented, you know.
34:21
Speaker 1: And yeah, a lot of very wealthy people have like
34:24
Speaker 1: still like servants quarters essentially, and their people live on
34:29
Speaker 1: the property and they're there constantly, so that means that
34:31
Speaker 1: they have access to them, you know. So yeah, there's
34:34
Speaker 1: just so much like that goes into it. Um And
34:39
Speaker 1: I really wonder if we will ever hear about those
34:43
Speaker 1: stories and those women, because I guarantee they're there. I
34:46
Speaker 1: know that they're to be They've always been there. Yes,
34:50
Speaker 1: And we know the women of color face sexual violence
34:53
Speaker 1: at a higher rate than white women, Do we know
34:56
Speaker 1: that statistically statistically? Yes? Absolutely, a especially Native women and
35:02
Speaker 1: Black women, very very high rates of sexual violence. UM.
35:07
Speaker 1: And less access to help and to resources, which is
35:13
Speaker 1: just that double bind, you know. Yeah, and like on
35:16
Speaker 1: a different note, but of course still related to this
35:18
Speaker 1: whole you know hashtag me too. Like I just want
35:20
Speaker 1: to say, like, for any survivor that felt like they
35:25
Speaker 1: didn't want to share their story, that's completely okay. Nobody
35:29
Speaker 1: is entitled to that. I know me on a personal level, like,
35:32
Speaker 1: I really wanted to engage in the me too hashtag,
35:34
Speaker 1: but anytime I went to write something, I couldn't, Like
35:37
Speaker 1: nothing could would come out of me, and I felt
35:40
Speaker 1: like I can't do this. This is just too much,
35:42
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like, if you were feeling that way,
35:45
Speaker 1: that's completely valid, and I hope you took care of yourself. Yeah.
35:48
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of social pressure to
35:51
Speaker 1: publicly respond to every single new wave, every new crash
35:56
Speaker 1: of news, every new crisis. Listen, Tomorrow, there will be
36:01
Speaker 1: another crisis, there will be another call to action. Every day,
36:04
Speaker 1: there's going to be something different. It is literally a
36:06
Speaker 1: never ending loop of ridiculousness. And I know that I
36:12
Speaker 1: cannot respond to everything. I can't, it's impossible. I can't,
36:16
Speaker 1: And so like, don't also, don't feel guilty or don't
36:19
Speaker 1: feel that pressure that I have to perform a response
36:23
Speaker 1: right now. Absolutely, yeah, And I think at some point
36:26
Speaker 1: you could people kind of also expect you to write
36:29
Speaker 1: something or to publicly say something, yeah, to have a take.
36:33
Speaker 1: I know, even my mom asked me if I like
36:34
Speaker 1: shared a me too story and I was like, no, right,
36:38
Speaker 1: I know I don't want to write. I don't want
36:40
Speaker 1: to because then I'm like, okay, well which one? Yeah. No.
36:44
Speaker 1: I also just I am so hesitant to put out
36:47
Speaker 1: that type of information about myself on the internet on
36:51
Speaker 1: a hashtag, which is each easily searchable. It's based because
36:54
Speaker 1: hashtags are really great for, you know, connecting people and
36:57
Speaker 1: ideas and connecting a conversation and getting a movement started.
37:01
Speaker 1: But a hashtag is also sort of like a database
37:04
Speaker 1: where you click on it and you see everybody who
37:06
Speaker 1: has contributed. And do I necessarily want because we know
37:09
Speaker 1: that there are very violent people on the internet. We
37:12
Speaker 1: know about the four Chan and the Reddit. We know
37:15
Speaker 1: about the alt right and the white supremacists who are
37:17
Speaker 1: very much online, who have a lot of protection and
37:21
Speaker 1: actually help from platforms like Twitter like Facebook to be abusive,
37:25
Speaker 1: and their their accounts don't get taken down. Do I
37:28
Speaker 1: knowing those people are out there and they're active, do
37:30
Speaker 1: I necessarily want to put myself out there like that. No?
37:33
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, and you know what I think ultimately,
37:37
Speaker 1: Like it's up to you. I know there are a
37:39
Speaker 1: lot of folks that really connected and really felt empowered
37:42
Speaker 1: through the hashtag. And if that's how it was for you,
37:44
Speaker 1: more powered to you. If that's what you feel like
37:47
Speaker 1: you needed to to heal or yeah, continue to heal
37:51
Speaker 1: in your healing process, like that's amazing. Good for you.
37:54
Speaker 1: To each their own at the end of the day,
37:57
Speaker 1: Like for survivors, it really is to each their own
38:00
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38:07
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Speaker 1: visibility and invisibility of Latin X digital content creators. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you know, registration is now open. It's free. It's
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Speaker 1: going to be um Sunday November nine Atlas in downtown
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Speaker 1: l A. It's a free event and it's open to
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Speaker 1: the public. And you know, this is latin X digital
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Speaker 1: media experience. It's presented by mao UM And if you
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Speaker 1: want more information about boat Fest UM and Mala Domingo,
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Speaker 1: you can follow them on Instagram at podcasto Fest and
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Speaker 1: at Mala. Yeah, we're super excited. Sunday, November nineteen, we
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Speaker 1: will be there. We will have Merchant Die, We'll have
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Speaker 1: merch will be table label take pictures with that we
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Speaker 1: might be speaking on a panel. Yeah tbd, but just
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Speaker 1: come out, come out anyway. With November nineteen UM Downtown
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Speaker 1: l A, Come meet us. We end up meeting our
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Speaker 1: our listeners out in public, like we're out and about randomly, randomly.
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Speaker 1: It's always very very cute. It's so cute. So this
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Speaker 1: is like, if you're really into podcasts, I think this
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Speaker 1: is your events. This is your event because especially if
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Speaker 1: you follow the Latin Next podcast, because they will basically
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Speaker 1: all be there like everybody basically and well are flying
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Speaker 1: in one central location. Are people are flying in? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: So come through, come through, come through, come through. Yeah.
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