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Episode 172: RDJ As Dr. Doom...BRILLIANT!!!! · Chucks Cantina

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  Speaker 1: This is Chuck's Cantina podcast, where anything and everything is
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  Speaker 1: up for discussion. And now here's your barman, Chuck, O'Donnell.
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  Speaker 2: Flow up the truck's CANTEENA. I am your favorite part
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  Speaker 2: of my host Whatever the hell you want to call me, Chuck?
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  Speaker 3: You did not open on that?
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  Speaker 2: Should I open on that?
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  Speaker 3: Good Lord?
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  Speaker 2: Hi love too much. I won't do that too.
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  Speaker 3: They'll just go into all right, sorry, restart, start over.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have it start from there right when
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  Speaker 2: I cut it out? So that what did he say?
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  Speaker 2: Your favorite post credits?
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  Speaker 3: Chuck?
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  Speaker 2: No, not post credits? Do mean we were getting like
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  Speaker 2: Patron the really release release the Patrick cut. Not that
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  Speaker 2: we've ever said any bad. It just said I'm the
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  Speaker 2: Join us today is O G Patron Patrick. Damn.
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  Speaker 3: I'm back. We're back at it again. I love I
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  Speaker 3: love being here. I love my weeks away from the
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  Speaker 3: Cantina when Chuck doesn't lock me away in the basement
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  Speaker 3: or the bathroom. But you know what, I'm having a blast.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about some fun stuff today, So let's
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  Speaker 3: just get right into it. Hold on, okay, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 3: hold on, I will.
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  Speaker 2: Lock you in there again. Do not rush, Do not
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  Speaker 2: rush me, do not rush. A good time. What are
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  Speaker 2: you drinking?
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  Speaker 3: Well, earlier I had some Thai iced tea. It's National
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  Speaker 3: Girlfriend's Day as we're recording this, and uh so yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I got my lady some Thai food and we got
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  Speaker 3: some Thai iced tea. But right now a little after
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  Speaker 3: dinner snack is some high quality h two.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, Well I'm drinking high quality issue and I'm
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  Speaker 2: also drinking what do they just a Lacroix sparkling water
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  Speaker 2: guava Salpaolo.
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  Speaker 3: Oh lovely.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like the red and green fruits together that
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like watermelon. But whatever it is, it is
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  Speaker 2: fucking delicious.
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  Speaker 3: Probably guava, mm hmm. It's very good from Brazil.
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  Speaker 2: Brazil, well it is. It is supposed to taste like
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  Speaker 2: it's a Brazil, but it's probably actually from Let's see,
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  Speaker 2: the precipitation whatever it's called that I can't I can't
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  Speaker 2: find the location. Where's it? Where is the manufacturer?
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  Speaker 3: Looking at a review you lacross Brazil.
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  Speaker 2: I can't find it either way. It is delicious. But
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  Speaker 2: while he's looking it up, quick little housekeeping. Other than
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  Speaker 2: the socials, thank you all free support so far. Shout
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  Speaker 2: out to hermis Austender who was on last week, right
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  Speaker 2: or not a couple of weeks ago? Excuse me for
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  Speaker 2: I yell each other butts in the video game related.
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  Speaker 3: The crossovers, Yeah, the crossover.
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  Speaker 2: The crossover universe.
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  Speaker 3: God h apparently apparently this one guy said that he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't get the hype. Apparently, it's just flavored water in
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  Speaker 3: a can. What's the big deal. It's like, news flash, genius.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that all of them?
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  Speaker 3: That's what you got, That's what you paid for. That's
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I used to I used to. No, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: actually pretty damn good. I used to hate flavored water.
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  Speaker 2: But because like I quit drinking soda pretty frequently. I
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  Speaker 2: you know, you get bored of coffee and water pretty fast.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know, man, some of these, some of
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  Speaker 2: these like flavored waters, man, they just hit to the
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  Speaker 2: point where like like it's like, I mean, not not
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  Speaker 2: that are bad for you, but like, oh, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: know I should probably actually drink some actual water. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's neither me.
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  Speaker 3: When you drink too many of La Croix, regular water,
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  Speaker 3: taste taste a little different, m you know, subtleties. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: enough about water, Chuck, Let's get to work.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, we're no, we're supposed to be chilling here, man,
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  Speaker 2: Oh what I meant? Anyway, Yes, so we're gonna tend
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  Speaker 2: to do a two partner here kind of. We're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna go too crazy or anything like that. At this point,
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  Speaker 2: Patrick now here's me say two part Now he was
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  Speaker 2: about to go, why didn't you tell me it's just
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  Speaker 2: a two partner?
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you tell me?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie it really quick, really quick. I
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  Speaker 2: just gotta say this. I'm still working on and think
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  Speaker 2: you at this point, if you listen at this point,
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  Speaker 2: go back into the SUP review, because there's obviously a
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  Speaker 2: reason we're doing that. By this point, the Super Reviews
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  Speaker 2: of the Poolverine is out. I'm still in the process
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  Speaker 2: of editing that because I can't stop laughing, and there's
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  Speaker 2: certain parts where you and I can't definitely I mean
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  Speaker 2: definitely by the worry too close to the mic, or
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  Speaker 2: we just over over enunciate certain things, so it's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, damn, why don't you tell me? Why
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  Speaker 2: don't you tell me about my volume levels?
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  Speaker 3: One day we'll figure out how to do this ship
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  Speaker 3: we're I think we're doing just fine. I think we're
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  Speaker 3: doing great, and we're doing we're doing just fine.
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  Speaker 2: Nice you we're gonna talk about Robert Downey Jr.
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  Speaker 3: Who isn't that isn't that Iron Man.
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  Speaker 2: Collar over old tie up? While we're talking about Robert.
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  Speaker 3: What I gotta turn my volume up in my headphones here,
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  Speaker 3: just got the all right, this tune up.
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  Speaker 4: The danne ive been stretch.
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  Speaker 3: Any Jesus Christ anyway, Oh my god, right, they got
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  Speaker 3: that out of the way. Yes, everybody expect that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: So, yes, we are talking about a certain Academy Award winner.
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  Speaker 2: If you live under a rock by now, no sou
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  Speaker 2: by this point when this comes out, this will be
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  Speaker 2: two weeks after, two three weeks after, so yes, right
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  Speaker 2: to it. From the time of recording this previous weekend,
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  Speaker 2: a little thing occurred called San Diego Comic Con. Now,
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: if you know anything about San Diego Comic Con, in
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: the last few years or actually before that, it used
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: to be the thing where all the big movie series
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: would announced every anything and everything, just like this podcast. However,
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: since the pandemic and things like that. Actually even before
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: the pandemic kind of it was kind of slowing down.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't really doing the big things anyway. More like Disney.
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  Speaker 2: They have their own event.
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  Speaker 3: Now other Disney plus Con.
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  Speaker 2: Or D twenty three. Sorry Disney adult jackass here, not
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  Speaker 2: that we're jackasses, I mean some of us can be,
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  Speaker 2: I know. Anyway, they have an event called D twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: That's where they had lounch a lot of their stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now some of the ones will just announce it on
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  Speaker 2: their social media or because okay for example, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just like some of like those cons were essentially if
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  Speaker 2: they're not the ones making the most money, or they're
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  Speaker 2: not making money throughout the entire thing, they're not really
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  Speaker 2: gonna do it. For example, like I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: you ever heard of I mean, so many kids kids here,
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  Speaker 2: what was that? What was that thing called that? Every year?
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  Speaker 2: He was a E four? But the hell was it
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  Speaker 2: called three? E three? Jesus see that that's.
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  Speaker 3: A three and G four?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? E three?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: You know was the big gaming the event every year?
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  Speaker 2: And that's dead and comic cons had issues of us
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  Speaker 2: couple years anyways. So yes, So it's been known for
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  Speaker 2: a while that for Marbles to Make Universe that the
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: big the big Baddie was supposed to be KINGE Cain
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  Speaker 2: the Conqueror played by one Jonathan Majors. That's not happening anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could say that the switch plans switch LANs.
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  Speaker 2: So long story short, he got into some legal trouble,
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  Speaker 2: was acquitted in a couple of charts probably put this.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the full scoop I was reading, just
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  Speaker 2: with some other stuff. Does look like he'll do any
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  Speaker 2: jail time, probably would. So anyway, long story short, Marvel
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  Speaker 2: moved on. They fired him, and it has a big
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  Speaker 2: ad firm. They're getting rid of Kine, but it looks
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: like they are because because uh, they announced that they're
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: going to do They have two Avengers films coming out,
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: which has been announced forever but keeps getting pushed back delayed. Also,
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: so this is now technically the third name change for
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  Speaker 2: both movies, because first it was Avengers five to six.
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  Speaker 2: Then it was Avenger's Kane Dynasty and Avenger Secret Wars,
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  Speaker 2: which actually secondly it's not it's not the total name change.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's Avenger Secret Wars which comes out, which
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  Speaker 2: secondly is Adventure six, which comes out twenty twenty seven,
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  Speaker 2: but in twenty twenty six a movie called Avengers Doomsday
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  Speaker 2: will come out. And also if you know anything about
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: the Marvel Cinema Universe. They have been going through production
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: hell because it said as Deadpools set up with police scopes, Moether, congratulations, Wolverine,
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  Speaker 2: You're entered at a walle point. So they brought out
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: the Russo brothers, the guys who were directed four movies
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  Speaker 2: all made a gazillion dollars, including the Endgame with made
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  Speaker 2: like five gazillion dollars, which people were shocked by because
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  Speaker 2: there's a little report now even a month ago that
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: said that Marvel said no to them because they had
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: made a pitch, and they said no. I guess obviously
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  Speaker 2: that was wrong. And then Doctor Duom, a bunch of
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: doctor dums came out, and then of course they said,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to show you the real Doctor Doom. And
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: then real Doctor Doom came out and and honestly true
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  Speaker 2: like it's me Austin style, which true higher power style
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  Speaker 2: comes out, takes a mask off, and it's Robert Downey Jr.
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  Speaker 2: To which, of course six thousand people in the face.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a nerd, deal with this means Hall aged popped,
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  Speaker 2: went wild, lost their shit, the internet exploded. What could
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  Speaker 2: it mean? And as he said, new mask, same task,
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean, And then of course the next
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  Speaker 2: day after everything settled, the internet was I'm the same divided.
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  Speaker 2: You could say that because well, we'll get to in
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  Speaker 2: a second. But anyway, I before I ask you what
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  Speaker 2: you're I kind of knew this might happen. This was
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  Speaker 2: reported about the month ago. It was potentially happening. It
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  Speaker 2: was because all of a sudden the Rooster Brothers said
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  Speaker 2: it was announced they weren't going to do the movies,
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  Speaker 2: and then out of nowhere it was nope, they got
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  Speaker 2: a deal done, and it's like, wait what And then
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  Speaker 2: a wat that steam report that said, well Robert Downey
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  Speaker 2: Junior was potentially thought of as playing doctor doing which
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  Speaker 2: deeviyone goes, well, that makes no sense because he's Iron Man,
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  Speaker 2: and well here we are, okay, so blause, how do
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  Speaker 2: you feel?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a great choice. And here's why, because
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people were like, well, isn't your Iron Man?
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, but when you talk about multiverse fuckery, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of possibilities if you're talking about the multitude
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  Speaker 3: inous realities that could compromise or comprise our multiverse, so
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  Speaker 3: to speak. And there's actually a bit of precedence for
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  Speaker 3: iron Man being Doctor Doom or vice versa in comics
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  Speaker 3: shout out to Comics explained for doing a little video
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  Speaker 3: on it.
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  Speaker 2: I need to watch it. I've seen I know you've
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  Speaker 2: You've told me to watch it, and I've seen other
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  Speaker 2: channel other channels mentioned the comics explained, I need to.
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  Speaker 3: Watch comics explain. Yeah, I mean he does great, great work,
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  Speaker 3: but I'll do I'll send you a quick little link
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  Speaker 3: ski for what I'm talking about. Specifically, basically to summarize,
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  Speaker 3: you know, doctor Doom and Read Richards infamously, you know,
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  Speaker 3: met each other in college, and you know, Read Richards
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  Speaker 3: was always smarter than doctor Doom, and Aadi Yadi became
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  Speaker 3: this grudge, big grudging thing. But what if there was
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  Speaker 3: a reality where instead of Read Richards, it was Tony
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  Speaker 3: Stark in Doctor Doom's college dorm room, his.
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  Speaker 5: Roommate college experiment. Not that kind of experiment.
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  Speaker 3: No, Basically, the idea was that Doom was so jealous
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  Speaker 3: of Tony Stark's you know, wealthy upbringing and stuff, he
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  Speaker 3: tricked Tony Stark into helping him build this machine and
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  Speaker 3: it allowed him to switch consciousnesses with Tony Stark and
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  Speaker 3: live in Tony Stark's body, and you know, Tony Stark
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  Speaker 3: was living in doctor Doom's body or Victor Ron Doom's body,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, basically they were the same people, but uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the same kind of motives, the same kind
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  Speaker 3: of moral compasses. But Tony Stark, you know, got the
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  Speaker 3: fast track to being a good guy because he ended
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  Speaker 3: up having no money in the body of doctor Doom.
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  Speaker 3: In the life of Doctor Doom, the Victor von douoam
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  Speaker 3: at that point he became a doctor late, but that's
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  Speaker 3: not upside the point. And then obviously Victor von Doom,
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  Speaker 3: with the access and affluence of Tony Stark, you know,
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  Speaker 3: became this maniacal war mongering guy, and so like there's
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  Speaker 3: precedence for this in the comics, right, so maybe we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be introduced to a reality where, you know, at
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  Speaker 3: the end of that comic, h Tony Stark in the
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  Speaker 3: body of doctor Doom with his own like iron man
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  Speaker 3: colored Doctor Doom outfit and all this shit. He ended
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  Speaker 3: up winning. He ended up beating Doom and Tony Stark's body.
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  Speaker 3: It's very confusing, very comvoluted, but you know, we from
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  Speaker 3: the comics anyway, But you know, like what if we're
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  Speaker 3: in introduced to a world where that never happened. What
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  Speaker 3: if Doom in the body of Tony Stark won you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? That could be something they do,
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  Speaker 3: It could be something completely different. What if Tony Stark
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  Speaker 3: was just Tony Stark and like you know, following the
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  Speaker 3: plots of the Avengers movies, right, Like what if instead
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  Speaker 3: of trying to create Ultron to protect the world, what
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  Speaker 3: if he took it about himself to be like to
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  Speaker 3: protect it by ruling it with an iron fist, no
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  Speaker 3: pun intended, but like what you know, what if? And
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  Speaker 3: it Like the thing I love about the choice is
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  Speaker 3: that it's intriguing, you know what I mean, It's intriguing
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  Speaker 3: and it gets you interested, right if you think about it,
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  Speaker 3: What is really separating Tony Stark in Doom? Right aside
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  Speaker 3: from Doom's propensity for like magic, which is you know,
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  Speaker 3: already been introduced to the MCU.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it has it, but like on a ground
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  Speaker 2: like but when it's there, it's like they don't just
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  Speaker 2: try away.
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  Speaker 3: Right, it's I mean off for doctor Strange got introduced,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't like it was not there was no magic
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  Speaker 3: really besides like low Ki's magic, right, right, But like
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  Speaker 3: what what differentiates the two characters not a whole lot
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  Speaker 3: besides their moral alignment. You know, if Tony Stark can
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  Speaker 3: build a suit and has all this money, like he
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  Speaker 3: could run a small country, he could, you know, he
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  Speaker 3: could really kind of take things into his own hands
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  Speaker 3: and like undermine governments and shit. He doesn't because he's
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  Speaker 3: a good person, right, and he's had his his plot
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  Speaker 3: his path to get there.
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  Speaker 2: But like.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody with that level of intellect and ability to like
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  Speaker 3: problem solve, and we saw this in like Iron Man
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  Speaker 3: three when he was like kind of had everything taken
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  Speaker 3: away from him, but he was given that purpose of like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: now I'm going to I'm motivated to get back at
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  Speaker 3: this one person. And he did everything in his power
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  Speaker 3: to like get back to get back to his above
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  Speaker 3: and unleash the sus and Alicia. We saw that, And
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  Speaker 3: so what if he was motivated to just like take
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  Speaker 3: over the fucking world. You know, I'm interested to see
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  Speaker 3: what happens. And then you have the whole idea of
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  Speaker 3: like Pedro Pascal'srie Richards versus Downey Junior as doctor Doom. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's it's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. You know. There.
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  Speaker 3: They could have done a lot, they could have found
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  Speaker 3: another actor completely, but like the choice of bringing RDJ
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  Speaker 3: back in a completely different role, it begs the question, well,
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  Speaker 3: how do we get there? Was he still Iron Man
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  Speaker 3: and became this or is this a different, different world
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  Speaker 3: entirely where he never went down that path? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's my take. I'm interested and I want to see
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  Speaker 3: what they do with it. That's all I got to say.
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  Speaker 2: So I all in the same category as you. I
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  Speaker 2: am all for this. I understand where probably is okay.
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  Speaker 2: I understand where the people who don't know comics. I
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: understand that people who are just casual movie people go,
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute. This is the guy who essentially we
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  Speaker 2: all know started this franchise. This is the guy who
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: was literally the facing entire franchise. Why I saw this.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I saw this. This is like and I literally saw
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  Speaker 2: this on the social maze. This is like if Luke
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  Speaker 2: Skywalker died, came and then Mark Hamill came back as
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: a guy in the level of Vader and is a
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  Speaker 2: complete different person. This is just weird to me, and
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  Speaker 2: nothing which is fair, because that's what's gonna happen because
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you know what's gonna happen, or how I put this,
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  Speaker 2: Some people are gonna ask that. But here's the here's
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the point. Trying to make the movie going audience today
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: is a lot smarter than it was, not let alone
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago, let alone from like a year ago. Okay,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: because for example, when I mean, obviously we spoiler move's
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: been out for a while, but like when No Way
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Home came out, no one had to be no one
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: had to be explained to about all the spider Okay,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: my wife love her to death. She didn't need to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: hear the whole like wait, like, wait, what's Toby Maguire's
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: because everyone knows Wire's Spider Man. Everyone knows Andrew gar
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: because everyone knows. Oh, those are different things, those are
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: different movies and all that stuff. Right. The reason I'm
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: very excited for this too is because it's like that,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: like you don't have to explain these things of people
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: as much as you used to. Now obviously, yeah it
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: was like it was five years ago. Yeah it was
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. Oh my god. But like this is
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: one of those things where and here's the point I've
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: made to a buddy of mine. Okay, people are like,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: why can't why couldn't they just do the old school
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: way of Doctor Doom you at with a Fantastic four.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: It's just I'm not saying just some guy, but it's
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: just some guy that knows a different cast. You just
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: do a classic Victor von Doom story. You want to
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: know why? And yes, I understand it wasn't with Kevin
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: FIGI Actually that's not true. Part of it was with
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Kevin Figy a little bit. They have tried Doctor Doom
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: technically three times. It has not worked three times.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And then and there are three times.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: So technically you have the John you have the Chris S.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Evans Fantastic Storm, you have the Michael B. Jordan fantastic
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Folk Storm, and then you have that really really, really
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: crappy looking version from the early nineties.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, fair enough. What I'm trying to say is
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: the Dark Ages, the Dark Ages.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Even even when Batman was out, it was still the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: dark agest because like, really, like what really in the nineties,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: the only good supermovies I mean, if you I mean,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: if you don't come blake his play was like the
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: late nineties was the Batman movies and people, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest fan of them, just to the
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: franchise in general, but like, people really don't talk enough
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: about giving the praise to the teenage Mutanta turtle movies.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that right now. True you and you,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: actually I watched those movies a lot of your house
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: cheers to the turtles, cheers the drink drinking turtles. Yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I remember I watched that movie your house a couple
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: of times. I remember that for a fact.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: I don't remember even seeing those movies.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I remember watching me in your living room, swear to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: God or do you you're you're in the movie that
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you and I for some reason why to my house
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Charlie the Jaguar?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: What the fuck is Charlie the Jaguar?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: It was something like national geographic movie like they made,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: but they try to put a story in between to
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: like the kids actually get to watch something about jaguars
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and learn about jaguars. And I remember.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not shuing the fuck is Charlie the Jaguar? No,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: that's a weird Facebook page for a cat the Jaguar.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: It was not great. I remember that because.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: The jaguar, Dude, I think you're having some Mendela effects.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Ship anyway, moving on, moving on, but also, what the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: fuck they have you talk riding the classic Victor von
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Doom thing multiple times and it has not worked. Yes,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: we did our review of Deadpool Wolverine. We also kind
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of did a little I don't know, not funeral, a
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: little homage if you will, to the Fox Marvel universe,
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: which is now done. Okay, movie, I'm sorry, I don't
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: know why I came to mind. I remember specifically watched
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: it one night at your house and we both were like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: this is terrible. Though we were both it was that classic,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: we were both so fucking lazy, we do want to
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: get off the couch, so we both went to bed.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Any what the fuck nineteen ninety six? Yeah, that's about right.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: The Jaguar. Two frenchmen must go to South America. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: go bro, I'm sorry, Led Jaguar, l Jaguar.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: The Jaguar. The Cheetah. It was a cat.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Charlie the Cheetah sounds more like I think it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Might be Charlie the Cheetah. Excuse me for oh God.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: All dogs go to heaven.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Oh I found it, Charlie the Cheetah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I found it the Cheetah King Animal Stories Charlie the Cheetah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my god? Was that like all cartoony and ship?
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I think part part of it I remember, no part
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of it was cartoony. Part of it was there was
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: like live action. I think that the story part was cartoony.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: What the fuck? I don't know why?
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Just keep in my head?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: What is the English language plot outlined for Charlie the Cheetah?
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: IMDb answers. Someone helped me.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Fuck Robert Downey. We're talking Charlie the Cheetah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Anyway, Ultimate Baby Einstein's were wiki?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Was it like a weird sock puppet thing?
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I don't it's been so Oh my god, I'm sorry.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: It's okay, I got you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Why don't I remember?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Because it was so bad we barely watched it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Was it just called Cheetah from Disney?
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I know what? Fuck it?
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Fucking we're gonna get lost.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you told me about Charlie the Cheetah anyway?
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: The government doesn't want chet so as I'm a triggered.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: First they tried it multiple times, technical twice. I don't
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: know if the early early one was them. I'm I'm
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: gonna super probably had something to do with them, but anyway,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: it hasn't worked. You can say what you want about
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the Fox universe, yes, but you know what, for every
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: for every uh what Dark Phoenix, for every Last Stand,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: you had your original X Men, you had your Deadpools,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and you have your Days of Future Past movies. You
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: had your logans essentially, honestly, if anything, they were fit
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: if you if you take all the movies together, they're
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: about fifty to fifty almost more. I see sixty to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: forty six Fox. Yeah, yeah, sixty sixty bad, forty good,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: but the forty good are very good.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Movies, you know. And I I've heard this take on
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: there with the Fantastic Four movies from Fox is that
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: the tone is completely different from the other movies. It
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: was way more campy, it was more comical. And then
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you have Doctor Doom and like, if we talk about
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Doctor dooman's a character. It's like this dude like rules
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: the world from his fucking castle in a country that
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: nobody can gain access to. You want to talk about Wakanda, Yeah,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Wakanda is like hidden the ship, but Doctor Do is like, yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I'm right here, come fuck with me. You know what
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, he has mastery of these technologies to the
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: point where all of his doom bots so to speak,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: are just as powerful as he is, but are like
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: programmed to follow his every word. He has access to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: magic and like all this shit, and he blends the two.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I think the biggest downfall of all these movies is that,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: like they've not been able to see Doom to fruition.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: He's always just served as like the villain for this
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: one movie, you know what I mean, and then he's
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: been defeated and then what nothing right?
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: But like it's like that, Yeah, here's the one. Here's
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the one critique I have. Okay, and I'm gonna get
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to my iron man, my downy reason for Cassie here
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in a second. I'm just saying why I don't think
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: they should do the cat with the classic Doom Store whatever. Right.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The one concern I have with this though, Okay, as
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you were saying, you don't need to be a comic
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: book nerd to know this, You don't need to be
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a geeks and general to know this. Doctor Doom is
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: one of those properties, not just one of those properties
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: that he deserves he is, it's not even deserves he
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: is in that conversation with the Jokers, with the Thanoses,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: with the Lex Luthors. He is in He is a
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: omega literally essentially Tier one a villain. The one concern
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I have here is based on what we know right now.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Essentially it just sounds like we're gonna have these two
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Avengers movies and he's dead. The problem I have with
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that is now now a devil's advocate. Well, Thanos wasn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: in every single movie Lean up to Endgame, in If anymore. Yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: but in the third movie Avengers or fourth, fifthically fifth
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: movie Avengers, he was shown the entire world. Again. I didn't,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I wasn't. I'm not a big comic book guy, but
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I know I know who the fuck Fanos was. And
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: at the end of one of the post credits roll
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and you Thanos fucking showed up.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: What happened?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Fucking pop because we knew shit hit the fan And
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: there were and for years, from twenty eleven to twelve,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: all the way twenty nineteen, there were those bread crumbs.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Those seasons are like, Okay, he's coming. You know, we
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: all in the Guards of the Galaxy. What happens he
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: finds it? Call it fine? I'll do it myself. Oh shit,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: here we go. Shit's about to hit or not not
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: not guards the galaxy, guards the galaxy he was in.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: But like there was a different before that. There's a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: proscretcy where he says final to it myself. You have
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: all these movies lean up to it. And of course
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: when if Fidny Wark came, what happened, Shit just hit
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: those That's why I don't call if any more. If
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: any work, I call it Marvel, I call it. I
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: call it Fanos the movie because he just fucks everyone up.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: And then endgame is a Vengders endgame because then it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the Avengers against Stanos. But I just that's the one
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: thing I'm worried about is because essentially, instead of a
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: seven year, seven year storyline, okay, for example about the
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: wrestling a little bit all right, only for a half
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a few years ago away, Okay, cool, you're back, like
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: with the blood line, been a story that to make
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that same and I'll be that same joke if I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: get if I get, if I get that the Scooper
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Joe Rogan contract, I'll be doing that same joke. Then
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: might as well trademarket. But like the Bloodline story. It's
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: been it's crazy to say it, but because it's so good,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's dragging. It's been going on
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: since the pandemic, and sure had there been some parts
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, kind of dragging on here, yes,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: but you know what, at certain points, so they they
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: they do something to spice it up, or they introduce
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a new they introduce someone new, they put they pull
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: someone out or pull and it gives it that new
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: It gives it that new gravitab like, oh, I have
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to keep watching and that's what's good and that's what
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: this is. But like now it's like with this, it's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: like I'm just I just I. Essentially the point trying
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to make is I don't hope they essentially don't try
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: to shove seven years worth of lead up into the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: movies because here's the thing, this hasn't been confirmed or
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: anything like that. You cannot tell me he's not appearing
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: fantastic for I don't think he's right well, because they
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: started filming two days before and then they announced his casside,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: So he's just he's not gonna be in the movie
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: like like a like a main thing he'll just be
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: He'll be a post credit But like I to me, like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I just hope that's the one thing, because I'm like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: this is Doctor Doom, Like, this is a guy who
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: was like like, by the way, I think when it
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: comes to the event Doomsday, I think it's literally just
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be him, just fucking met Like literally, let's talk
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: about that one quick thing. There needs to be like
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: essentially a deadpool of who is dying?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Right, And this this is this is my thinking, right
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: because correct me if I'm wrong. The order is Secret
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Wars than Doomsday.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Right, No, it's Doomsday then Secret Wars.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, well then that that explains it, right, Doomsday.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think Doomsday is going to
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: be him kind of a certing dominion. But the name
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Secret Wars, and I went into this in the last
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: episode when we're talking about Doctor Doom Wars itself has
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: meant a lot of things in Marvel comics. There's been
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of different iterations of Secret Wars, right, but
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: the latest Secret Wars in the comics, especially when it
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: concerns Doctor Doom, was incredible because what I'm assuming is
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: going to happen fantastic four, We're going to be introduced
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: to this idea of incursions. Do you know what incursions are?
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: God damn it? You find all right?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Or you refresh my memory, because I know they've discussed
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it in Loki. Technically in Deadpool they discussed it.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Incursions, right, yeah, incursions and Marvel comics there was this
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: thing called an incursion where realities would kind of collide
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: together and heroes on one Earth were forced with either
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: destroying the other Earth or evacuating their planet. But if
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: these planets collided, both the universes would be wiped out,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and so the story kind of culminated, and the Fantastic
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Four were at the in the pivotal role in kind
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: of figuring out how to do this, where they built
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: this machine to try to like survive past the incursion,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: and there was this really iconic scene which I hope
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: we get kind of emulated in the movie, whereas Sue Storm,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the Invisible Woman, was literally creating a force field to
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: try and hold these two universes apart or keep them
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: from colliding, which is just insane levels of power. I'm
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: so excited for the Fantastic Four, But what ended up
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: happening was that created this kind of opportunity for Doctor
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Doom to kind of create his own nexus of worlds, right,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: like he was this he became this god level power character.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Google God Doom Marvel Comics and you will see exactly
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. And so I think what we'll
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: roll into with Doomsday, either Doomsday will be the movie
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: where the incursions are taking place and they're trying to
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: stop it or whatever, or no, yeah, Doomsday, and then
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Secret Wars is going to be all about this new reality, right,
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I mean you talk about it like he had doctor
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Strange under his his as his like right hand man
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: so to speak. He had been married to Sue Storm
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: or like somehow brainwashed her, and then he had this
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: like he had literally, uh, the Thor Core, which was
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: like his police force was just all these different iterations
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: of Thor, which is just crazy. It sounds scary right right,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: And so like there's like the story. I don't want
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: to get into it in case anybody wants to read it,
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: but like, yeah, I think Secret Wars is going to
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: be like the culmination of that story. But like it
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: literally took Black Panther leading an army of the dead,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Captain America with the Infinity Gauntlet all this different shit,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: But like, I think, what's gonna cement Doctor Doom as
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: his character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is if they
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: emulate this scene from the comics where Thanos tries to
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: step up to him and he's like, you're not really
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: a god. I'm the real god here, and Doom is like, well,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: let's test that theory, and he punches a hole in
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Thanos's chest and rips his skeleton out moral combat style. Yes,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: and that is what we need, rightly.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Did a someone literally did an ai where they put
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: it downy and Josh Brolin's voice, and it's so fucking good.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Oh that sounds sick.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Actually, I know, you send me the cosmic and the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: comic thing. I'll send you that because it is so sick.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's and that's the thing. It's like
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Secret Wars and that was back in twenty fifteen when
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: this comic came out. That is such an iconic kind
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: of story and it like it could be a really
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: like definitive end to the multiverse. You know, saga if
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: you will in Marvel you know what I mean, Like
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: when all this shit kind of collides together because either
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: they've been fucking with the multiverse too much. Sure, like
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: it's just a natural outcome of the multiverse existing. Is
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: this incursion and then you have either a Robert iron
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Man from a different reality or you know, Tony Stark
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: had become Doctor Doom in a different reality, or like
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: they pull from that story that I mentioned earlier where
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: it's Tony Stark's body but really doctor Doom's mind, right,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: and he seizes the opportunity to create this weird, you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: amalgam world. And then like, yeah, like this is these
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: all these heroes that are either conscious of where they
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: came from their previous world or like people that they
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: kind of draft from this new world that are sick
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: of Doom's bullshit, and it becomes this whole climactic battle, right,
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: And it's a really cool idea to you know, to
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: see we've seen all these variants, we've seen different versions
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: of people, YadA YadA, but to see it all come
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: to a head where like somebody has taken that idea
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: and like kind of manipulated it to their own means,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: and uh, yeah, to see it kind of culminate with that,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: you know, we you know, there's characters in the comic
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: that are really pivotal to it. We could see somebody
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: else take up the mantle of black Panther, like a
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: lot of people have been alluding to, maybe Killmonger's character,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Michael B. Jordan's becomes a Black Panther or whatever. You know,
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: you could do a whole bunch of fuckery with it,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: and it could be awesome, you know. And Marvel's been
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: a great job of adapting stories, kind of making them
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: their own, but still kind of holding the idea of
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: this story from comics. So I mean, I'm down I know,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: you know, like all the Marvel movies, it's going to
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: be a waiting game to see how it all plays out.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: But man, uh, sign me the fuck up. That's all
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, And here's the thing too, I kind of
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: want to go off. We just staid here before. There's
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the point I got to make here about Downy. Figy
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: is a comic book nerd. He he knows these stories,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: but he also if you watch some of these movies. Again,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know the comics as well as the movies.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I know some of the comics because I read because
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I read about them, or there have been some comics
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I've read more so on the Batman side, but I've
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: read a few Spider Man ones, and I've read a
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: few Captain America once because my dad's a huge Captain
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: America Mark, Love your Dad America. But there have been
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: stories that they have not followed the comics to heart,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: which is a good thing because you don't want to
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: go in there and see that. Yeah, because like, okay,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know the Ultron story, but by
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: of course, but by accounts from people I know that
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: no age of Alton, they say Ultron is a complete,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: bigger badass, but like not saying that Ultron in the
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: movies wasn't a badass. Yeah, it would have been nicer
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: may if he was less and more than swell one
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: movie of course. But you know what, that's just the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: way it was with the with their plans the time. Yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: because their focus was what fanos, that was their focus.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: It was just it changed a lot about that. It
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't Tony Starku made Ultron any of that. No, right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: a character that hadn't even been introduced to the movies yet, right,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: and more or less, I.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Don't know if he has yet but anyway, but and
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: so like and like because and again I don't know,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: though I don't know one of the comics I want
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: to read. I want to read more about I want
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: to get into my Secret War, especially coming out, because
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: it's sucking like Comparica Dress. But also I know for
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a fact that like Civil War, that is not how
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: it went.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's not even closer.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm saying though, Like people don't like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: people like because you see these movies that go, oh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: so that's like like this, it's like, actually know what's
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: completely different, but that that there's anything wrong with that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Civil Wars is a kick ass movie. We got spikes, man,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: we got spidering the MCU, like the the thing that
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: everyone thought was impossible, it happened. It happened, and then
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: another thing too. You could also think, uh oh god,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: like there's some like stuff with thor I know, some
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: stuff with Man. But the thing that the point I
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: want to make now too. I was actually asked by
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a coworker because they're a huge comic Bob comic Nerd
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: as well, but they're like, I just can't find myself
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to go into a theater essentially, how ladies and gentlemen.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Another promresting thing, how do you take a guide that
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: everyone loves? Here we are you know what? You know
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: what Tony Stark is, Hulkgan. How do you take a okay,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: the character not well, I mean that's also the same.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Thing that was.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: That was That wasn't my brother, that was Tony Stark's dick. Anyway,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: how do you take this character that everyone loves and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: for now toll Holding contacts still loves and get them
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to hate them? Okay, because people are going to go
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: into theater, people that don't know anything about Marvel. Yeah,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you know what, they're probably gonna add, you know a
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: few people as like their friends. Hey, what should I
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: watch before I go here? What should I do before this?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing I think Marvel's been doing a
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: very good job of. It's not just a dead boo.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: They've done with other things too. You don't need to
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: watch certain movies before going in. Okay, the Devil's Advocate
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: example of that. The Marvels Okay, I actually I thought
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: it was. It wasn't a bad movie, but it was
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: a movie where if you didn't watch Captain Marvel, Miss Marvel,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: or what are fuck? What was it? WandaVision? You didn't know,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: jack shit. You had to literally watch two movies and
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: a nine episode series just to know half what was
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: going on. Okay, Deadpool you didn't need to know. Honestly,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: if you watch Low any Act of movie or one
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: of the deap Of movies, you were fine. That's it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: You're good. I think they're gonna try to do their
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: best job to make that the same thing with his
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Doctor Doom in terms of like why he's not Tony Stark,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: But how do you get people who have loved Robert
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Downey is Tony Stark for now what the closer part
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: of almost twenty years? Which is crazy to say, how
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: do you hate him? And I heard this on a
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: camera the name of podcast. I heard something like this
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: in the podcast, but I'm gonna put my spin on it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: So you essentially need to do You essentially need to
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: do the nWo turn. Okay, you're always gonna establish that
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: this is doctor doing before Tony stars, so it's not
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: like it's not like, oh, it's Tony Stark, but you're
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: going to though, here's how okay, you need to do
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Infinity War? How did everyone know that Thanos is a
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: bad guy, even though we had nine movies leaning up
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: or fuck what twenty something movies lean up to this?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: How does Infinity War start? Or how actually, how does
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: how does Ragnarok end? It ends with Thanos's ship finds
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: he has guardians on their little homestead in space. What
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: does he do? Fucking murders? Everybody chokes?
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: He located the.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Murders, everybody beats the absolute shit out of Thorn, breaks
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Loki's neck in front of him, and then what does
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: he also do? Makes the Hulk look like the jopper
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that he now is. Since Infinity War, by the way,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Hulk has not been the same.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Nope, literally, Hulk went the therapy Hulk.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Hulk is now Hawaiian teaser Hulk and is never coming back.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: That was such a disappointment in those movies. Not a sidetrack,
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: but like.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Please please do it, my Hulk.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when Bruce Banners in the Hulkbuster and he's like, bro,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta do something, He's like, no, I'm
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: too scared, and then we never we never got that,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: We never got the fight right I was That was
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: such a blue ball moment.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: That, honestly, and this is one quick Sidebrun's Hulk thing.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I legitimately think that's why a lot of people are
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: not going as crazy or as complained about as much
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: as that we did get the Hulk Wolverine fight in
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Deadpool is because that's that's the stigma, is that. I mean,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: I love Mark Mark Ruffalo, Huh, I love him, but
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: right now, Hulk's a bitch.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Well but that, you know, thinking about it, like that
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: was back in time, that could have been a different
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: fucking universe altogether. That was still like the Savage Hall
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: that would have been fighting Boers.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Because as soon as soon as that whole came on street,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: you knew exactly which.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Was like the fuck, You're still like raging and yelling
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: and chips like yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: He's so cool, but no, no, he's a bitch. Anyway,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: you need to do the Infinity War scene. But and
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I and I almost hate saying this because part of
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: it is part of this podcast that said I but
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my spin on it because then only
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: put them we mentioned one part, Okay, you need to
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: have you need to do the whole Tony like I
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: thought you were dead. You need to do that. You
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: need to mm hmm. But then you have him kill somebody, right,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: who do you have him kill?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Captain America?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: No, Pepper, you have him kill his wife? You have
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: him God, and people going, well, it's a stupa moment.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: You can do that ship you need to have him.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: This is where you really have him as Sandwich, as
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: the bad guy. Obviously, they still I don't know how
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do it. You still have the whole thing
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: where no one remembers Peter Parker, which, by the way,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: and I saw one video. I know you saw a Deadpool.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I can't believe we didn't talk about the Happy Holgan
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: cameo in that movie, which was? Which was? I believe that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But here's one thing. Did you notice? So obviously in
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: going back to the dead Pool over in spoiler, they're
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: showing Happy Hogan's office as Deadpool is trying to, like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: you know, convince them and the Avengers.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Right, there is a part.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: And they you if you don't, And again I saw
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: it the second time because I have recognized the photo.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: There's a part where they show Morgan Stark's little Iron
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Man mask on a on a little countertop.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: He's blocking half of the pictures.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: It's blocking the picture of Tony and Peter, and you
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: only see Tony. So it's like it's again, it's that
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: it's that whole of no one remembers Peter. So I
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: don't know if you ever get to a point like
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe it's one of those scenes where Spider Man
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: happens to be in the room. He's trying to save
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: the day from Doctor Doom. Yeah yet ye, but Doctor's
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: just wrecking everyone and he and then somehow maybe Peter's
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the one that knocks the mask off and then he goes, wait,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: mister Stark because he loves him the desk of like
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a father. And of course Doctorm was like, I don't
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: know who the fuck this guy is. Yeaha YadA YadA,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: So he established right away that like Peter is like
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: he has no id tother the fuck's going on, and
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: he fucking just not kills ab it. You're not gonna
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: kill fucking Spider Man. Fucking merk spider Man. And then
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you need to have him mark a four hulk like person.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say cat. I actually like Breelars's
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Captain Marvel, but you need to have him fucking just
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: destroy a Captain Marvel and really, there isn't a good
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: person standing right now that you can quote unquote murdered
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: just just thinking of the current stigma, unless you have
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: him killed like a hawk gy. But I mean, I
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: don't think that would just bring as much gravit test
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: because Hawkeye is not like a big time that he's
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: a big time, but it's not like a strong person.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: And that's why he's thinking, you have him kill Pepper,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: you have him kill his wife in front of everybody,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: because everyone's not because because again no one, because no
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: one in this doomsday for part is not gonna know
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: what the fuck. They's not gonna know those multi verses
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: talking about the fuck's going on, and all they see
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: is Tony Stark killing his wife, the mother of his child,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: not like not accidentally, like like like Loki style, grabbing
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: her knack, like blowing off whole through something kind of
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: like like whole kog. And no one expected him to
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: actually turn it the dark side. What happens. He comes
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: in the ring to run the bad guys off, runs
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: in the corner, says fuck you, and then drops the
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: leg on Savage and.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Like you could even do a thing where it's like
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: where it's like Tony Stark, like doctor Doom shows up
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: previously in the films, Betty never unmasks, and then like
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Tony Stark shows back up right and does whatever, and
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: then it's like revealed, Oh, I've been doctor Doom this
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: whole time when you talking about.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: And actually I'm actually I'm glad you mentioned that too,
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: because I'm pretty sure was it the Marvels. I've only
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: seen the Marvels one time. I'm pretty sure actually the
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Marvels did that? Was it the Marvels? I want to
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: say it was.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: I did what exactly?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I want to say the Marvels did, like a recap
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: before the movie started, one of the Marvel movies in
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years. They actually did that. They
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: did that as like a kind of like you know,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: like like whenever like you're watching a new season of
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: a show or it's the season finale previously on Supernatural,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: you carry my waywards it and it's like they show
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the entire season. Of course, baby, that's pretty good show anyway.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you need to do you need to do,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: you put yours, you need to do cause I can't
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: talking about Supernatural memes? What what? Why did Why does
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: this Strow really want the pizza boy, you're bringing the
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: pizza box anyway, what fucking moose Anyway, You need to
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: do like a recap, like you said, like just even
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: if it's just like showing like the post credit of
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: like Fantastic four, and you do some like other multiverse
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: stuff or you know what, if anything, this is what
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: you do. You need to have the trailers. You do
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: one trailer for the movie and the other trailers are
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: just recaps. That's it, because the hype for this movie
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: is Jesus sorry, I'm knocked over Wolverine somehow, the hype
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: for this movie is gonna be so insane. You don't
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: need to do one hundred trailers. You don't. You just
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: do a couple. You do want you do a teaser trailer,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: do a final trailer, and every straight between is a
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: recap of everything since endgame to now. And you only
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: do focus on the multiverse. Shit, you don't focus on
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: the little things. Maybe somehow Captain America gets the super serial. Okay,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you can put that in there, but that's it. You
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: need to focus and actually talk. Going back to Hulk
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: as a bitch saying, did you see the Captain America trailer.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: The newest one.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with Red Hulme.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I find it. I didn't. The last trailer I saw
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: just had Red Hulk at the very end.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, red Hole. Yeah, they have Red Hulk. And
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: guess what it doesn't look It looks like Harrison four words.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Hulk's not a bitch. So we are getting some kind
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: of But but again, you need to, like you said,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you need to find a way to establish it because
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: so many people are going to this going, how am
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I gonna hate Tony Stark? And why is he in this?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Why is he doctor doing? You do your recap and
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: then in the first five minutes you just need to
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: have him Infinity war this ship and murder someone and
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know who else he can murder. That would
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: be as meaningful as Pepper. Not that not saying that
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Pepper Potts is not a poorn, She's not like a
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: giant teer character, but everyone knows that character with Tony Stark,
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: and if you have him murder her, all bets are off.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But no one everyone's gonna hate him.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like this this whole show that this is not
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: our Tony, this is not the and this is an
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: evil son of a bitch, you got no love in
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: his heart.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: It's again, it's called Doomsday. It's supposed to literally be
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: a movie where he just comes in and just fucking
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: murders everybody. And then again, by the way, this isn't
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: a spoiler. I don't is for a fact. And then
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: secret wars need to be kind of like you say,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: like the what was it called incursion?
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: Well that's the thing. It's like Doomsday could have a
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: multiplicit multiplicitus meaning where it's like Doomsday and like the
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: end of Times, it's like, Okay, this incursion is coming,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: what are we gonna do about it? But then it
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: turns out that Doom, doctor Doom is going to use
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: this to his advantage to like seize power over this
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: new reality, so to speak. If that's where they go
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: with it, you know what I mean, it's Doomsday, but
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: it's also Doom's day, like it's his day to win whatever,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: and that would be like the same the you know,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: Avengers Infinity War ending where it's like Thanos actually fucking won, right,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: you know, and then going into endgame, it's like, okay,
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: how do we recoup this?
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: If anything, but you do or it's like not like
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: he like you know, destroyed, like he steps his fear
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: in one's dead. But it's like, okay, yeah, this guy's
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: wait too probable. How do we beat them? And then
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: you knock knock on some other people's doors from other places,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: which I won't say because again, not that anything has
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: been revealed the leak, but like it, I think it's
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: kind of obvious who's gonna knock on that door?
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: So, right, I mean, like we can talk about it, right, like, yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: why not?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, isn't it that like it's just.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: That the X Men, like the original X Men, are
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: gonna try and be in there, or the Potastic Four
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: from different universes or some shit, right you know what
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I mean? Is that the rumor?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Well, so, the one thing is the supposed to be
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: the Fantastic Four is in a different universe and is
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: a different time. It's just take place in the fifties.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: The time the different the different universe is carts of
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the change that has been revealed, but the actual time,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: if it takes place in the fifties and sixties, is
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a fact that's been confirmed.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, So if it's a different universe and it's all
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: the way back then then maybe that maybe that's where
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Tony Stark is from, right that becomes doctor Doom. Maybe
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: it's you're on the right. Okay, let me let me
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: speculate this. Well, maybe instead of there being a Victor
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: von dum at all, maybe it's Read Richards and Tony
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Stark are in those are the roommates situation, right, Like
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: that's right? And then the kiss. No no, but like
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: maybe like okay, let me just story Let me just
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: storycraft a little bit. Let me just storycraft a little bit, please.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe like despite Tony Stark's affluence and his you know,
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: coming from money situation, maybe Read Richards is just still
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: smarter than he is. And maybe that just sticks and
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Tony Starks crawling like he goes down this path of like,
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: well I'm proved to you who's smarter? Man, I'm evil?
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: No I need And maybe that's the situation. Maybe that's
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: what's going on, Like you know what I mean, I
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: wouldn't necessarily line up perfectly with like what they've established
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: timeline wise, because his dad would still be around. I
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: don't know. Fuck fuck me, but like I don't know,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: maybe they could go in that direction, and is it
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: so is the idea that it's in the fifties, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: then they get flung into the future.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: That's all that's been revealed is it's in the fifties.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, nothing more.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: I'm down for that. I'm down for that.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: And it's like, and then, of course, what role does
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Galac display? What role does the actually you know what
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, because I mean they announced him, but they
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: announced how he's gonna be. Because because this is my
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: this is my theory. I think Kane was supposed to
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: be the lead into Doctor Doom, and obviously Doctor Doumen's
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: it be coming to lead into Galactus. But I think
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: now it's gonna be Caine's gone. Doctor Doom is not essentially,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Avengers five and well yeah, five and
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: six is Doctor Doom. And then they're gonna lead this
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: into Galactus because Galactus, again, is not a guy you
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: just go We're like, okay, bye, it's like, no, that's
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: a guy that.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: No, he's on his way, he's coming.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a guy. You don't do the big
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: movie where you kill him in ten years. That's oh fuck.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: Okay. So Galactus is such an interesting character. Because especially
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: with the timeline that you're kind of presenting, like the
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: lineup of movies, because Galactus as a character, as his
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: universe was dying, he created a machine to survive the
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: death of a universe, and then that's what he became
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: Galactus into this new universe, right, and so he's this
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: cosmic nity that's like tasked with not just eating ship,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: but like balancing the universe. Like, so like maybe that
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: plays into the whole Secret Wars thing, is that like
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: somebody from this doom created reality against story crafting just ideas,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: maybe somebody survives that machine and becomes Galactus into a
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: new universe. I don't know where they're fucking gonna go
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: after this if this is the Secret Wars that they're
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: building it off of, because the fuck, like what do
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: you do? Okay, well, combine everything and then it all
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: just blew up? All right? Now? What fu x mes? Right?
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And then and they've announced Jackman, they haven't announced like
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: when they're doing. They're in the process, it's been they're doing.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: They're in the process of getting the X Men ready,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: like they're starting to like do the pre stuff, not
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: like they're start filming like Okay, we're gonna start like
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: finding people to work on it, directors, writers, what we're
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: gonna do with it, Like they've started that process. But
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: which if they're starting that process, that means they're not
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: too far from filming, And like, what do you do?
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Because again by dead poo Wolverine stands, I mean, I
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: totally anticipated somehow Logan dies at the end spoiler he.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Didn't, So he didn't. It was fine, fun, he was
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: holding a dog. Everything is fine, everything club is fine.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: But the point, the other point trying to make is like, Okay,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: and here's the one thing I'm worried about. Again, nothing's
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: making firm but Secret Wars I totally expect him to,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: like you said, there is going to be the final
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: set up of all these other Marvel movies, not with them.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: If I don't want to, I mean, again, I don't
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: want to say, like what thinks to me because because
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: it kind of spoiled it, But like I think it's
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: kind of like obviously where they're gonna go with it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: But then it's like, okay, let's say let's say Avengers
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: five or five. Okay, Decker kills their one, Avengers six,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: everyone from every fucking movie every maid that has a
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Marvel name on it comes in and kills this dude. Great, cool, kumbayah, awesome, biggest,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: biggest fucking cameo offspring ever of all time. Cool. And
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: then Avengers seven and eight, it's like, okay, like those
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: movies need to be top tier because everyone's gonna expect
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: a thousand camas. But was like, well, why would we
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: do that again? Okay, per example, I'm gonna say it.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I totally anticipate. I anticipate McGuire one hundred percent. There's
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: no way they signed him the one fucking movie. He's
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: been talking about doing Spider Man again ever since Spider
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Man three ended, and he got to do it again
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: and again. Every interview he said, when they said, hey,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: so when you got the call for no Way Home,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: how'd you feel, his response wasn't I was grateful. I
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: was delighted. It was It's about time. I've been waiting
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: for this phone call for fifteen years. Guess what? It
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: was true because No Way Home is awesome. So again,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I totally anticipated that, and I'm not just saying I'm
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: thinking everyone and it's just like and then like, of course,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: like what are they gonna do with the Spider Man
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: license because take they don't own it. But then like,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: and Sony's done a ship job with their stuff, and
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: like the apparently the Venom stuff is ending and that
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be their anchor, but like that's not happening.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: By the way Bill accounts the Craven movie, which it's
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: supposed to be really good, there's rumors that saying that
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: doesn't If that doesn't do well, Sony might just drop
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the whole thing, please do. Just like, what are they
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: gonna look again? It's just it's one of those scenes
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: where like the one thing I'm scared about with this
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: and I think I'm all for Doctor Doom being Robert
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Downing because how many times has Marble then just Marvel,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: has a superhero casting been announced Heith Fledger, Ben Affleck.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I can go on and on. How many times has
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: someone been announced a superhero and the Internet's gone, you
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: fuck it, suck, they shouldn't be it. And guess what happens.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: They go to the fucking plate, they hit it out
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: of the fucking park, and then they run and catch
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: the ball and they run back into the park and
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: down their fucking throats they done every single But seriously,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: with Marvel, there have not been many Okay, perfect example,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: there have technically been out. This is what what's Harrison
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Harrison Ford's playing? Uh, he's playing the president. Potechnically, he's
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: playing the fourth General Ross because the of the three
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: pass guys have unforcedly passed away and all three prior
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: what happened fucking knocked it out of the park. Yeah.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I know, I know it's not just figing, but you
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: know has final say and it's like what what again?
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: At this point? Why do you doubt them? Yeah? Obviously,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: like Devil says, you're the low point. Yeah, there's a
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: lot more to it than his fighting, you know, having
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: his missus. I'm sure he's had his missus here and there.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Like I've said it dark the Dark World thor. I
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: think that's the worst Marvel movie for me. Honestly, that's
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: my least favorite. But here's the thing, though, I see,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: it's not a it's not a it's not a god
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: awful movie. Right if you when you hang out with
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: a good thing, Sorry, no, you go ahead.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say. The good thing about coming in
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: and as a low point at a low point is
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: that there's only really one direction to go, right unless
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: they find new depths of ship different but I don't
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I doubt it. I mean, I'm hopefully dumb.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: And then we'll move on to the next scene here
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: because I know and you're on late. I appreciating on
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: because there's one thing, one more thing we want to talk about.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: They'll be like our part two if they will keep
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: that short. But there was one potential thing I thought
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: they might go, I think your I think your theory,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: which is I think it's becoming the more propul theory
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: the whole. Instead of doctor instead of read and Doom,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: it's Doom and Stark is like roommate roommates Read and Stark. Yeah.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: And then is the infamous iron Man storyline.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, which which could easily they could conglomerate or amalgam
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: into instead of this infamous iron Man or superior your
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: iron Man, as some people or some comics go like,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: he could just become doctor Doom as opposed to like
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: an evil but Iron Man, he just becomes doct Doom instead.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: But I get that, so it'll be like I think,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, No, it'll be to see how they
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: do that. But also at the same time, it's like, what,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: like again, that's that's that's exciting thing. It's like, this
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: is why I'm happy they're not just doing the cancels.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: After doing the KU's like, Okay, we don't know what
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do with this, we don't know how and
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: here's the thing we don't get to the thing I'm
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: really want to discussed about, like the money because okay,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: spoiler alert, Robert Downey wanted to do this only if
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: the rousters were involved. That's the only signed on. And
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: also he's gonna break a record quick little set for you.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: So guess how much money he'll make just for doom'sday.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Dude, I don't know. Fifty million.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: So apparently he's taking a quote unquote larger salary, but
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: he's having less backpoints. So essentially it works like this.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: With an actor of this alt you can find aust
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: variety can finds that the Internet and actual like legitimate sources. Essentially,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: with big time actors like Downy, they get a stipend
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: words it's like, hey, here's your salary, but we're going
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: to pay you more money depending on how the box
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: off this st does. So it's kind of like this Hey,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: you can take this giant check nowt and do the movie,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: or you can take a discount, and then you can
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: take this chance and if it makes a sertain amount
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: of money at certain points, you're gonna make this much money,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: this much money, which is what he did with Endgame
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: of other movies. That's why, for example, corning to a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: variety of Downey has made just for the Marvel movies
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: alone up to this point, he's maybe between five attetion
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: one million dollars. Because the first movies was parbas contract.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: He got a total flat feet after his negotiation it
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: is resigning. He took more back points really quick. Can
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: you guess the all time records? There are two movies
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: down Downey's third right now, can you guess the two
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: actors who have made the most money off the movie
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the Rock No Tom Tom Cruise made one hundred million
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: dollars a legend off a top gun. Oh because it
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: made Yes, because it made a funck ton of money
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: because he did the points system.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: And then Will Smith, can you guess what movie Shark
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: tail Men in Black three?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Because affairly it made enough where he made so much
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: money at first, but he did a bad point to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: word because he was like, I'm gonna take the majority
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: of the salary first. But then it actually did burn
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: that people thought they did it did do it great,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: but didn't thought so he got money. So Robert Downey Jr.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: It is anticipated, based on the deal he made, is
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: going to make a hundred million dollars. That's crazy per movie.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: Oh fuck, so he's gonna make two hundred and by
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: the way, that's not included other ship because because he
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: is definitely gonna do other other than the two vendors movies.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: He is going to make two hundred million dollars for
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: these two movies. These they're gonna make a billion dollars
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: they're going to but he essentially is going to make
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: a fifth of a billion. He's he's going to make.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: He's gonna make it. He's gonna make a tenth for
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: each movie. He's gonna get a ten in the box
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: office at minimum.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: At minimum, that's an absurd amount of money at minimum.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: And now and most of the pays on this report,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: most of these things do have a cap off. So
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: it's like a one hundred million You're done. But what
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: it doesn't disclose though, is things like toy sales, likeness.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Uh do not that, dude. These are thinking work. I
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: mean physical Maydea is becoming more popular because of it's
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: it's it's hard to find. Yeah, he's gonna make He's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: gonna make it. He's gonna two dred million dollars. You we
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: need to get in that uh in that rubber downy
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: uh family tree there. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: We need to We need to start acting five ten
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: We need we need to do that. We need to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: do the prequel to kiss, kiss, pain, bang. That way
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: he'll he'll like us.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Uh one kiss, one bang bang kiss.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: And they were roommates