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  Speaker 1: As I am joined by my guest shortly, mister JP
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  Speaker 1: Acosta from SB Nation, to dive into this Bills Rams matchup.
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  Speaker 1: In this game, I see a lot of you folks
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  Speaker 1: popping into the chat already. We'll get the conversation started
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  Speaker 1: very shortly with JP, and this will be a fun
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  Speaker 1: one for I really think for football fans in general.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, from a just pure football perspective, the
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  Speaker 1: Rams do a lot of fun stuff, especially on the
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  Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. I think, regardless of how
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  Speaker 1: closely you follow other teams or at the NFL across
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  Speaker 1: the entire league, if you're more just centrally or locally
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  Speaker 1: focused on the Bills, I would imagine some form or fashion.
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  Speaker 1: Sean McVay and the type of offense that he runs
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  Speaker 1: and what he does has kind of made his way
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  Speaker 1: into your ears and your purview and what they do
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  Speaker 1: on offense, they do just some really great stuff. They
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  Speaker 1: have some really fun dudes on the defensive side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Also do some good things schematically on that
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball as well. But this will be
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  Speaker 1: a fun one to kind of knock out between the
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  Speaker 1: Bills and the Rams and to have that conversation. I
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  Speaker 1: am joined by one of my favorite guests, who I
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  Speaker 1: told myself to look this up beforehand, and I forgot to.
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  Speaker 1: I think of all, like all guests ever, I think
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  Speaker 1: he has now been on the show the most and
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  Speaker 1: has the most guest appearances ever. So we might have
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  Speaker 1: to make a jersey and hang it in the rafters.
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  Speaker 1: I'll add it behind me in some way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 1: Joining us now on the show, mister j Pacosta of
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  Speaker 1: esp Nation JP. You are one of my favorite guests.
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  Speaker 1: You are tremendous. I appreciate you taking the time to
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  Speaker 1: join me. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me on. It feels like an
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  Speaker 4: honor to be the most add on guests. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's amazing. I always love talking ball with you, man.
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  Speaker 4: It is truly one of my favorite things to do
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  Speaker 4: out of the week, and I enjoy every single time
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  Speaker 4: we just get to chop it up because you know
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna go a little long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoy. I enjoy the hell out of it.
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  Speaker 1: Just your perspective on things, the way you see the game,
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  Speaker 1: how much you know the rapport and the chemistry that
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  Speaker 1: we have. Yet it's a really good time and enjoyable time,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just you. You being a resource is always
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  Speaker 1: great to me. I think I've told you this before.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've said it on air, but I've also
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  Speaker 1: told you off air, Like whenever I don't have like
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  Speaker 1: a specific team person in mind, I'm always like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna message Jape. And I had this one earmarked
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit just because you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: mentioning a little bit in the intro as you joined
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  Speaker 1: here the rams. I mean, you know this, I think
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  Speaker 1: so many people do. Mickveigh has reached this conversation piece
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  Speaker 1: for even the most casual of fans in terms of
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  Speaker 1: being the schematic genius because I think people kind of
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  Speaker 1: put him in that tier Ruslan and what he's able
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  Speaker 1: to get out of his team, what he does schematically
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  Speaker 1: creatively in a variety of forms and fashions. The run
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  Speaker 1: game starting to match some of that creativity and schematic
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  Speaker 1: flair that the past game has, you know, obviously getting
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  Speaker 1: a super Bowl underneath his belt appearing in two. I
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  Speaker 1: think this is a really fun game. You know, even
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  Speaker 1: if you're not a Bills fan or if you're not
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  Speaker 1: a Rams fan, I think this is just a fun
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  Speaker 1: game schematically because of who these teams are, and from
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  Speaker 1: a Bills fan perspective, really, you know, this is a
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  Speaker 1: team they don't see a ton. You know, the Bills
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  Speaker 1: don't play the Rams a ton. But I think it
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  Speaker 1: really is like such an enjoyable week because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of what the Rams do, even some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: they do defensively, but they're so fun on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball with what they get into how
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  Speaker 1: they operate, and then they have some really good dudes
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  Speaker 1: on top of it, like all across the offense. They're
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  Speaker 1: a really fun group to study and watch and talk about.
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  Speaker 4: So if you think about the last time I believe
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  Speaker 4: the Bills and the Rams played in the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: I believe that was after the Rams won.
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  Speaker 2: The Super Bowl ye season.
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  Speaker 4: Bring it back to if you compare these teams from
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  Speaker 4: where they were at that point to where they are now,
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  Speaker 4: it feels like there's two It's two completely different teams,
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  Speaker 4: both in how they attack you and the personnel. I
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  Speaker 4: think you hit it right on the head when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to Sean McVay. This Rams team stresses you in
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  Speaker 4: so many different ways. It stresses your rules, it stresses
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  Speaker 4: your communication. With how much motion they use, how often.
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  Speaker 4: I wrote about this last year, and I still think
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  Speaker 4: it's super cool what they're doing with motion.
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  Speaker 2: They don't use motion to try and hit you downfield
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  Speaker 2: like the Dolphins do.
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  Speaker 4: They don't try and use motion to hit you horizontally
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  Speaker 4: like the Niners at their best do.
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  Speaker 2: What the Rams use motion for is for leverage. They
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  Speaker 2: use it for angles. They are.
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  Speaker 4: I hate to say this because Sean McVay probably was
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  Speaker 4: this kid in jim He was.
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  Speaker 2: The kid who always had the good punk bake. He
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  Speaker 2: always knew the angles. He he always knew.
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  Speaker 4: He might not have been the best athlete, but he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna beat you to the spot every time because he
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  Speaker 4: knew what angle to take.
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  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what the Rams do.
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  Speaker 4: They beat you to every angle and they stressed everything
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  Speaker 4: on the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And it combines with you know, having.
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  Speaker 4: Stafford Pooka and Cooper Cup at the same time and
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  Speaker 4: Kyrin Williams. They just have so many dynamic players that
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  Speaker 4: you have to at, you have to watch out for.
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  Speaker 4: Combined with all that stress of motion and using different
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  Speaker 4: formations to do the same thing, it just stresses you
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  Speaker 4: the hell out.
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  Speaker 1: And that's even with like I'm happy that and I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I'm saying this with a grain
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  Speaker 1: of sal and I also don't want to be a
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  Speaker 1: jinx because it seems like Pookah goes down like every
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  Speaker 1: single week and you're like, oh, no, is he really
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  Speaker 1: hurt That he comes back like in the next series
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  Speaker 1: or the next plane, you're like, oh, okay, he's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But even when they're not healthy, and it's like a
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  Speaker 1: a rotating cast of you know, support players for staf
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  Speaker 1: effort or the offensive line. We've even seen some of
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  Speaker 1: that this year, like no Puka, no Cup. The offensive
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  Speaker 1: line is hurt. They're playing musical Chairs again. Obviously not
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  Speaker 1: as bad as last year, which was just really the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of years, their offensive line has just been
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  Speaker 1: like a like cursed in a walking wounded mash unit.
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  Speaker 1: But even when he's just like plugging in random guys
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  Speaker 1: that you've never heard of, he's still able to just
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  Speaker 1: create leverage and create angles and create advantage. And then
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  Speaker 1: even more so once you drop in Puka and you
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  Speaker 1: drop in Cup and Kyrone and a healthy offensive line,
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  Speaker 1: it's so fun. And I love that point because there's
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  Speaker 1: so many like they they're so creative with their motion
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  Speaker 1: and how they attack, and it'll be like, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: we're just doing it to run like a five yard hitch.
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  Speaker 1: We're just gonna do it to like run this screen
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  Speaker 1: and then okay, here comes the sail route or here
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  Speaker 1: comes this like deep out, We'll gash you for like
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  Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen. But it really is just like you
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's coming, and because you don't know what's
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  Speaker 1: coming because and we're gonna get into this obviously as
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  Speaker 1: we go forward, because you don't know what's coming because
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  Speaker 1: they can limit their tells by formation and personnel, but
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  Speaker 1: how they dress it all up and how they present it.
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  Speaker 1: You have to account for so much. And again it's
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  Speaker 1: not just I feel like that's almost more frustrating as
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  Speaker 1: a defense because it's not like, here comes the shot play.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, no, we're just gonna keep like cutting you
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  Speaker 1: like a little by little. Sometimes it might be like
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  Speaker 1: a deep cut by like your bicep, or like we
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  Speaker 1: might get close to your neck a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not death by like a thousand paper cuts. It's
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  Speaker 1: more like it's not quite like from a katana or like,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not quite as shallow as a paper cut,
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  Speaker 1: like I need some weapon in between. And then it
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  Speaker 1: can vary, it can get a little deeper, it can
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  Speaker 1: get a little shallow where they can do it in
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  Speaker 1: the run, they can do it in the past. They're
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  Speaker 1: able to mitigate withstanding injuries at times. And yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: just such a fun group to see. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this conversation continues to happen year after year. And
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  Speaker 1: what I appreciate about McVeigh especially and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to kind of like stab at the low hanging fruit here,
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  Speaker 1: but especially in comparison with because I feel it's always
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  Speaker 1: him in Shanahan and I think you know Ben Johnson
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  Speaker 1: now too. I think those are the three offensive minds
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  Speaker 1: when people talk about like the Shanahan well, Shannaan McVay
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  Speaker 1: coming from a similar tree, but Shanahan McVay, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, you know Ben Johnson and then obviously Doug Peterson,
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  Speaker 1: you know your boy amazing offensive mind. I'm sorry that's
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  Speaker 1: me that take it back like the but especially with
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned the little hanging fruit piece because the Niners
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  Speaker 1: are struggling this year, but they've also had a ton
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  Speaker 1: of injuries, which muddies it. But I feel like McVeigh
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  Speaker 1: reinvents himself more year over year with how they add
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  Speaker 1: and how they change, and you know he I think
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  Speaker 1: he not even anythink he started to move toward to
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  Speaker 1: get more gap scheme runs before Shanahan was and he
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  Speaker 1: was starting to work in duo, and then it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: just like, no, we're not just gonna work in duo.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna figure out a way to like motion my
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  Speaker 1: tight end into it and like use him to insert
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  Speaker 1: like those creative little wrinkles. He's consistently reinventing himself for
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  Speaker 1: tweaking things season after season, and he's that one that
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you're studying things in two and three
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  Speaker 1: and four. Other teams are incorporating it in week nine
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  Speaker 1: and ten, eleven, and twelve.
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  Speaker 4: I think one of the biggest hires and one of
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  Speaker 4: the biggest additions to the Rams staff has been the
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  Speaker 4: addition of Mike Lafluor in the offensive game planning room,
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  Speaker 4: because before Mike Lafluor came in, it was a lot
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  Speaker 4: of outside zone, wide zone, the things we associate with
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  Speaker 4: Sean McVay and that offense.
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  Speaker 2: Even when they won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Their run game was built predominantly on outside zone. But
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  Speaker 4: when Mike Lafluor came in from the Jets, he ran
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more counter, more power, more do it,
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  Speaker 4: more gap scheme things, and that just consistently added it
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  Speaker 4: morphed this offense from being so they had too many tells,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they had too many ways to get beaten,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think of the I believe it was
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  Speaker 4: twenty eighteen when they lost to I think I think
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  Speaker 4: they lost to Fangio's Bears, and yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That was that was the one that put like the
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  Speaker 1: blueprint out of how to stop them and the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: basically right, and.
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  Speaker 4: Then the Patriots in the Super Bowl and the ownus
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  Speaker 4: kind of went out on how to stop this Rams
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  Speaker 4: run game. But it took getting other minds into the room.
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  Speaker 4: And that's one thing I think Sean McVay doesn't get
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  Speaker 4: a lot of credit for. It's the constant always adding
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  Speaker 4: other minds, other ideas, the constant evolution, because you can't
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  Speaker 4: evolve with the same guys telling you the same thing
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  Speaker 4: every single year, every single week. You have to go
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  Speaker 4: out and bring in a guy like Michael Fluor who
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  Speaker 4: got fired from the UH from the Jets, and he'll
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  Speaker 4: and he'll help you get into more gap. Ski you
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  Speaker 4: have to be all you have to be willing to
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  Speaker 4: make drastic changes in order to stay on the cutting edge.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's one of the biggest things I've
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  Speaker 4: appreciated about Sean McVay.
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  Speaker 1: That's a really great point, a good call with the
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  Speaker 1: flur and and yeah, really I think that also kind
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  Speaker 1: of goes, you know, hand in hand with my point.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just so great in general, not even just
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  Speaker 1: for like football, but I feel like philosophically for life,
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  Speaker 1: like you don't grow, you don't progress, you don't learn
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  Speaker 1: anything new if you surround yourself with the same people consistently,
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  Speaker 1: or even with people who think the same way you think,
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  Speaker 1: or see the things the same way that you think,
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  Speaker 1: or see things the same way that you see them.
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to challenge yourself. You're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: opened up to new ideas or new lines of thinking.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, that it was forever, you know, the mcveigh's
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  Speaker 1: and the Shanahans, that whole tree. It was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: outside zone, wide zone, play action, boots off of it,
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  Speaker 1: Rinston repeat, and that's what we're gonna do. And then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was two seasons ago or last season.
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  Speaker 1: I think last season I noticed it more early on.
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  Speaker 1: Rams were like, no, we're just duo duo. Here comes
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Higby to insert duo duo. I think as they
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  Speaker 1: opened up against Seattle, I think if I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 1: and I just remember them going duo in the low
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  Speaker 1: red zone like over and over, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: like this is this is fun. Yeah, just really cool
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  Speaker 1: wrinkles that they get into and how they co evolve
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  Speaker 1: and stay on top of things. It's a and you
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  Speaker 1: know he looked I think he looks for that defensively
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  Speaker 1: as well, and like his coordinators and who he appoints
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  Speaker 1: and how he tries to operate. Really good football mind,
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  Speaker 1: really smart dude, well run organization who continues to find
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  Speaker 1: ways to be relevant and man with. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into it as we go forward with some
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  Speaker 1: of the young talent they've started to bring through on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. If those dudes can
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  Speaker 1: hit as the offensive guys get healthy, Like there's just
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  Speaker 1: something about him like I just do not care about
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  Speaker 1: Like if the Rams get into the playoffs and they're
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  Speaker 1: nine and eight or yeah, actually say nine and eight
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  Speaker 1: or eight nine or some ugly record, Like I just
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  Speaker 1: don't care. I just will forever believe in the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: especially with who they have now. But yeah, like Veigh
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  Speaker 1: and that squad and what they are able to do
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  Speaker 1: makes for a fun conversation. And that is the crux
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  Speaker 1: and the focus of this episode for those of you
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  Speaker 1: playing at home who don't know how we do here
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  Speaker 1: on the show, myself and JP are each way to
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  Speaker 1: give our top three critical elements match up pieces how
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  Speaker 1: you want to label it, that we think will decide
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  Speaker 1: the Bills versus Rams. This weekend could be anything as
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  Speaker 1: wide scale or as detailed and niche as we want. Schemes, structure,
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  Speaker 1: player versus player, coaches, position groups, and entire side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. Anything and everything is up for grabs and
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  Speaker 1: able to be discussed. For those of you watching us live,
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  Speaker 1: feel free to put your answers into the chat. We
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  Speaker 1: will bring them up as much as possible. For those
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  Speaker 1: of you also playing at home, if you hate or
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  Speaker 1: love our answers, feel free to jump into the chat
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  Speaker 1: and let us know that as well.
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  Speaker 2: JP.
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  Speaker 1: You are the guests, the floor is yours. Feel free
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  Speaker 1: to start with whichever one or if you have an order.
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  Speaker 1: You know the drill, you know the rules. Godspeed.
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  Speaker 4: As much as I talked about the Rams offense and
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  Speaker 4: the evolution and the changing, I'm gonna start on.
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  Speaker 2: Their defensive side of the ball first, okay, And.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to circle specifically two players, the Rams, Jared
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  Speaker 4: Verse and Brandon Fisk.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta keep tabs on those two guys.
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  Speaker 4: I think specifically Jared Verse, Jared versus my edge one.
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  Speaker 4: Going into the NFL draft, I thought he had such
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  Speaker 4: a He is such a force of power and burst,
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  Speaker 4: and we talk about explosiveness, A lot becomes the pass rushes.
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  Speaker 4: We think about speed and dip and then when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to explosiveness, Jared Verse has explosiveness, but it's not
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: around the corner.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: It is running straight through draft.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: It is going to hit you as hard as possible
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: and go straight through you with a bull rush.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: His speed the power is already one of the best in.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: The NFL, and he consistently can get to it and
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: get counters off of it. So so far this season,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: Jared Verse is tenth in the NFL in past rush
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: win rate. At ESPN has him at twenty percent pass
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: rush win rate, which is good.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: It's a top.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Ten in the NFL. Consider he is also double team twenty.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Four percent of the time.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: This soul for comparison, and this is not to knock
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: this other guy, because I know how his fans and
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: the fans can be.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: TJ.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Watt saying, I knew where this was going. I knew
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: where this was going.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: TJ.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Watt has nineteen percent pass rush win rate and he
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: has double team thirteen percent of the time. Ooh like
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: it's he is dominant at this stage of his career
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: as a rookie. And there's a specific play he has
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: against the Saints where he gets A. It's like when
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: you see Miles Garrett doing the crossover thing, but Dared
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Verse is coming from depth because he's faking like he's
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: out on number two, but he's running and gets full
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: speed on this blitz and he lifts the left guard
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: for the Saints off of his feet. You're sitting there
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: watching and you're just like, what are you supposed to
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: do with this?
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like what he did to my Alta a couple
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago against Philly, Like he kind of shrank
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: down from the slot.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And just he lifted Jordan Mylotta off his feet. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: for those who don't know, Jordan Mailata is a massive
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: individual man. It's a big dude, and he casually just
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: lifts him off of his feet. I I think my
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: comparison just playing style for Verse coming out was Brian
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: a Rachpo and just the power and the force that
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: he generates is massive. But where I think the Bills
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: can get after this team, especially up front, is in
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the run game. So the the Rams have done this
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: really weird thing where they have built this entire defensive
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: line out of edge defenders and three techniques. They only
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: have one player in their two deep depth chart that
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: is over three hundred and ten pounds, and that is
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Bobby Brown that is the nose tackle Kobe Turners two ninety.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I think Nevill Gallimore is like three hundred. I think
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Tyler Davis, who's a backup, is three hundred. Jared versus
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: two sixty, y Young fifty, Michael Hoyts to seventy, Brighton
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Fisk to eighty.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool players to have on third long.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: The problem is you have to defend first and second
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: down to get to third and long, and where they
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: can be beat is getting after them early and wearing
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: them down.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: They don't really have the best linebackers right now.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Omar Spates is doing his best, but you can wear
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: them down in coverage. I think specifically, the way that
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I say that the Bills can get after this Rams
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: defense is you throw it out of base and you
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: run it out of your lighter personnel because there are
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: less bodies up front when they get into nickel, and
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: that means smaller players are going to be on the field.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: So you have to consistently add or do something because
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: those guys are just gonna get pushed off the line.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: But in base, what they're what the RAMS problem always
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: has been is it's the same problem every three to
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: four based team is going to end up seeing if
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: you want to have if you want to play quarters
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: or if you want to play cover two, you want
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: to play these too high shells, one of those edges
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: defend is going to have to drop in the coverage
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: and up.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Being Michael Hoyt.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: If we remember last year's playoff game against the Lions,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I think he gave up like twelve catches for almost
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: one hundred yards. It's rough because like he used to
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: be a decent tackle, they asked him to like cut
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: weight to play edge because they didn't have bodies.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And his own cover the in the zone.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Coverage, it is the polar bear in Arlington, Texas mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: what are you doing out the nice? What are you
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: doing out there? Young belong out there.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: So I think the Bills what they can do is
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: they can have a lot of success kind of like
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers game, or you just blast them,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: you just gotta hit them. And I think that game
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: against Niners gave them a lot of confidence because all
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: they did was spam duo and it made sense against
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the Niners team that doesn't have a true nose tackle. Well,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you're facing a team that also doesn't have a true
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: nose tackle. So I think in order to alleviate some
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: of the pressure on the tackles in the passing game
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: because versus gonna get his, He's going to get one
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: because that's how good of a player he is. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I think Thissk is gonna get his. But you want
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: to wear them down. You want to force him to
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: defend the run in order to get to the pass,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and that way you kind of slow them down. You
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: wear them down game over game, and you gotta try
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: and attack this. They're small up front, so you got
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: to try and attack them.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I so I have a very similar point for my
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: first one. I titled it you know the Rams passed
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: rushers to the Bills passed protection, and then gave it
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a sub bullet of like, don't let yourself get into
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: known passing downs and distances and situations against them for
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: a variety reasons. I want to start with the run
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: game piece, which you mentioned, just because I track this,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I mean I chart everything anyway, but against them, and
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I pulled up ID tweeted this yesterday. I pulled it
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: up to make sure I can remember it. Exactly. So
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: against the Niners, the Bills had to stretch from the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: end of quarter one to the end of quarter two,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: where and because there was not a lot of plays
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: in this game. The game, especially the first half, it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: flew by. So from the end of the first quarter
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to the end of the second quarter, the Bills ran
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: duo on seven of ten plays.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: That's right, and yep.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And the three plays that they didn't were two passes,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: and one of those and one of the three passes
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: was actually duo with a pass tag, and Alan threw
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the pass tag du Amari Cooper. So they spammed the
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: hell out of it. To your point, which is Joe
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Brady's thing. He it's the Cowboys game from you know
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: last year, where they were running dart and all the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: tackle pole stuff until you prove you can stop it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: The Bills are going to keep running it. What that
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: run concept has been for them this year, it's been
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: weak side mid zone that is usually their bread and butter.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: But I love that they pivoted to duo in this
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: game because it's kind of weather proof, I guess, because
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it's just downhill. Let's get our footing, let's get behind
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: our pads and to your point. It also worked against
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the Niners defense with just how they've been impacted by injuries.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: They don't really have teeth on that side of the ball,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: especially on the interior. Get downhill, mash them. I am
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: in complete lockstep with you for this game against the Rams.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna like drill too much on it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: You hit on everything. They're a super fun front. They're athletic,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they're fast, they're quick, they're mean, but they're smaller. Lean
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: on them, grind them into the dust. It might work
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: right off rip in the first and second quarter, or
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it might start to pay off in the third quarter
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: or into the fourth if you get on them and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you lean on them, especially with how the Bills are built.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Osirus Torrance is big and mean and amaller. Spencer Brown
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: is big and mean. Similar for Dawkins. Edwards is physical
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: McGovern with his arm length and a bit of physicality,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you can create displacement against this Rams front. Do it vertically,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: don't let because you know, even sometimes like for as
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: not great as they are at linebacker, Rose Poom will
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: make some nice plays on zone where he sees it
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and he shoots and I'm like, oh not so much
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: if you're getting downhill and you can create that displacement,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: drive those defensive tackles back into the second level and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: get after So one thousand percent with you there, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: then I just wanted to talk about the Rams pass
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: rush a little bit because it's super good. So the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Rams overall their first in pressure rate at thirty nine
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: point eight. They're also first in pressure rate on third down.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Their third down pressure rate is fifty five percent. That's
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: wild high. That's almost five full percentage points higher who
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: than team in second place. But what's funny with that?
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: For as good as they are a pressure rate, they're
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: middling in sacks sack percentage, sixteenth in sack percentage, so
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: that pressure rate hasn't always translated to sacks. Some more
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: numbers for Jared Verse amongst Caesar per PFF amongst two
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight qualifying defensive linemen, so defensive tackles
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: edges two hundred and twenty eight. This is a wide net.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: He's fourth in pressures good, volumes stat right fourth and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: pressures awesome. What about the efficiency pieces. He's sixth in
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: pass rush productivity, which measures your pressures relative to how
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: much you rush the quarterback. He's tied for ninth in
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: their win rate. He's fourth in hurries, and he's tied
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: for second in QB hits, and then some other dudes there.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Kobe Turner is tied for ninth and hurries, Braden Fisk
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is tied for twenty fifth, and a lot of that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Fisks started out slow over the last you know, I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe five six weeks, maybe seven, he's come
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: on like.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: He's got a nice counter move where he'll have stutter
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: and then club and swim back to the inside.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: He's got stumpy arms, but he's.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Still do that little stutter club move back to the
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: inside and it just dust guards.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, and he needs to do that because with how
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: being undersized, like he's got to play with motor and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: ajody and quickness because he's not big and imposing and yeah,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: his like he's the Roger McCreery of defensive tackles. He's
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: got these short, tiny little t rex arms. But he's
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: tied for twenty fifth in hurries by very young, tied
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: for seventeenth, and pass rush productivity. You've got multiple dudes
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: up front. I loved Kobe Turner coming out of Wake
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Forest He was one of my favorite guys studying a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and so I'm happy to see
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: him succeed. Not the best athlete, not this high ceiling guy,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: but he grinds it. He'll win quickly or suddenly at times.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: They have a really good like overall group highlighted I
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: think by those four young Turner, Fisk, and Verse, obviously
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: with Verse being the centerpiece like you talked about. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: what I also like with seeing Verse is what he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: does as a pass rusher. Obviously in the speed to
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: power and the juice and the getoff and all that,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: but he also uses that to his advantage when defending
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the run. And he'll take that step off the line
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and then pop back in with a quick swim, or
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he'll shoot off the line one way and shoot a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: gap and penetrate, swim back, rip through. He plays the run,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: he doesn't take reps off, he can get down the line,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: He hustles. He truly is looking like a legitimate star already.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And just I think it's so fun when dudes make
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: it to the NFL and they just keep playing the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: same way they played in college, but it keeps working
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Like he was just like I will I wish I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: like for me, like my head canon is them being
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like Jared, like, okay, you got to develop like an
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: inside move or like we're gonna try and increase your
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: flexibility to get some dip in bend. What do you think?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: And he's just like, no, I'm just gonna keep going
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: speed to power. They're like, yeah, but what else. He's like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: I don't need anything else. I'm gonna run. It's the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch like I'm gonna run through like an mf
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Or's face over and over and over. And that's what
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: he is. And so there quality group up front headed
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: by verse get after him in the run. Also some
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: numbers from a Bill's Pass protection standpoint. Overall, they're tied
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: for ninth and pass blocking efficiency thirteenth. Lowest pressure rate,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: but the big one Josh Allen. This year, out of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: forty two qualifying qbs, he has the third lowest pressure
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to sack percentage or rate in the NFL. This year,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: he's got the third lowest. Jordan Love has the second lowest,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Derek Carr has the lowest, which I would not have guessed.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Then No, I don't think anybody else can gets that
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: either right, go ahead, Okay, yeah, yeah. I was like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I'll take it with a grain of salt. So Allen
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: third lowest there at a rate of nine point eight percent,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: which is a career low for him. He traditionally is
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: one of the best in the league when it comes
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to not letting pressures be converted into sacks, but this
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: year he's been even better again at nine point eight
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: pressure to sack rate, career low for him, third lowest
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: out of forty two qualifying qbs. Can they get to Alan?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Can they fluster him? Will they even get the chance?
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Because the Bills just mash and get first downs on
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the ground or live in third and two, third and three.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: That way you mitigate that RAMS pressure rate and pressure
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: game on third down, keep play action open, make them
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: play run to pass on the way to rush in
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. I am very much in lockstep with you
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: on on that. And it's funny too, like good. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: started watching some of the RAMS tape off from this
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: week against Seattle or Seattle against New Orleans, and I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: had a couple of plays like Mark and I didn't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: get to that verse one yet where he blotzers you like, oh,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: he's got this rep against the Saints. I made it
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, I need to make note of that
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and keep eye far Man. Yet they're just there's always
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like he does something every week where I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: just like upcaired Verse and then like I have to
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: make a note. Yeah, really good group up front.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And see he.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Is for me, the defensive rookie of the year so far,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: just in how he's elevated a Rams defensive line that
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: was supposed to be a weakness and turn it into
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a strength. And just again I talk We talked about
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: a lot with speed the Power. The same thing kind
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: of happened with will Anderson when he came out. We
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: thought he needed more moves and counter moves to speed
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the power and he's just like no, like, yeah, don't,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I don't have to.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: He's like, okay, we'll just keep doing that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: And it's just it's incredible watching him just generate that
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: force because you can tell when he plants that foot
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: in the ground at the top of his rush that
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: somebody's gonna go backwards.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just incredible.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: But I think the thing that Verse struggled with, and
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I think the Rams struggled with, and you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Talked about a little bit.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: They get a lot of pressure, but they don't finish
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: very well. So we talked about all the pressure numbers
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: that they have right now, they only have twenty eight
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: sacks as a team, which is near average to below
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: average YEP this season. I think you can get after
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: them if they don't finish plays because if that team,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: if that Rams aren't getting pressure or getting home with pressure,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: then you can attack the secondary.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: The secondary is it is a secondary.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: They got some dudes.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I guess it's one of these secondaries in the NFL.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I mean they just signed Emmanuel Forbes off waivers.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: That is everything.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Where we're at with the Rams right now.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: So you can attack this team in the secondary, but
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: that's only if you can evade some of that pressure.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a really great point in putting
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it together with you know how many sacks they have
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: like you mentioned, the sack rate like I mentioned, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: then Allen not letting pressures get converted into sacks. So
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: you've got this group that's great at creating pressure, not
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: so great at finishing, like you said, then you've got
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: this quarterback who's amazing at not letting pressures get converted
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to sacks. So do one of those give or does
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it just continue to play out and they get a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: pressure in Allen's side steps or evades or escapes out
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the front door or the back door, and then you
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: know creates, you know, some off script or off script
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: out of structure, you know phenomenon like he does with
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: his legs or his arm. Yeah. I think that's an
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: interesting kind of like chicken and egg scenario and how
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: each one coalesces into each other. Very good point, very
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: good point. What do you have for your second piece?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So my second piece, I'm gonna stay alone the defensive
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: defensive line, but I'm going riverside. I'm going with the
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: the Bills defensive front against this Rams offensive line. So
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford, we know, is one of the best quarterbacks
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: in the NFL.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Win kept clean this year.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I mean, he It's hilarious just how good he is
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: watching him operate from a clean pocket.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: But that changes when he is under pressure.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: When pressured, Matthew Stafford, I believe according to Sewer Sports,
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: among thirty qualifying quarterbacks, I believe he is twenty fourth
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: in ePaper play under pressure.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: And it's sort of what happens to guys when they
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: get old. You just can't move, you know, like that
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the movement doesn't move like it used to. You know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like the legs don't work like they used to before.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Stafford has had a lot of injuries and so now
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: he's kind of a stationary pocket passer, but he beats
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: that with his arm in his mind. But we've seen
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: this year that this Rams offensive line, who has played
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: so many different guys up front that they haven't really
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: gelled together.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: Jonah Jackson was playing center, then moved the guard, then
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: got benched. Ovula it was playing center, now is at guard.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: They have a new center, Joe Noteboom has not played well.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Aleric Johnson Jackson hasn't played well. But this feels like
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: the game where the Bill's defensive line should take over.
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: This is a game where they are out they outmatched
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: their opponent. I think Greg Russo has played awesome this season.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: He has been one of the most impressive players for
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: the Bills this season on the side of the ball.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: This should be the game that he takes over. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: believe he's nineteenth in ESPN's pass rush win rate.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: But he has done so well when it comes to
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: blending moves together now and adding counters. So you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: he'll do a counter swim to his speed to power.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: He has the long arm that he's able to do,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: and so I think you can get after especially Aleric
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Jackson because he'll let guys into his chest. So if
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Rousseau can start getting home, if you can get some
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: quality Von Miller pass rush snaps, you can really start
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: to fluster Stafford and this off. And just what you
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: want to do with this team is just throw off
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: the timing by a little bit. Yeah, just make it
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: so the music is being played at a different tune.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Just make the pitch a little lower for one guy
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: than is the other, and just try and make everything
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: fall apart. So my biggest point is just this defensive
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: line going up against the Rams front that is overmatched.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: They're overmatched, and this should be the game you gotta
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: they gotta take over.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I like that some points to kind of go along
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: with that. Greg Russau some pass rush metrics amongst two
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight qualifying defensive linemen, tied for ninth
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: in pressures, tied for second in QB hits, tied for seventeenth,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: and pass rus proactivity tie for fourteenth in PFF's win rate,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: tied for twenty fifth in sacks, So pretty good in
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: a vacuum. Even better considering he's one of, if not
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: the best run defending edge in all the football. It
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: helps to be literally like a guy with tree trunks
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: as arms, and he can cover like three gaps at once.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: But with how he plays the run, what he's starting
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to become as a pass rusher, You hit the big
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: one like he's been kind of, you know, ironically having the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: verse conversation. His go to the first several years in
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: the league was just trying to go through people. It was,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know, use your not so much speed to power
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: as much as it was use your length, use your arms,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: use leverage. Back guys up, figure out and go from there.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Because of his size and how he's built, he doesn't
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: have great change of direction. There is no dip and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: no bend, so he's not turning the corner. He's not
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: dipping and ripping. There is none of that. This year
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: it's been Okay, I can go through and compress the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: pocket and drive guys back, or I can start to
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: sell that and then break off and get inside He's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: had some extremely clean wins with that inside move where
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it's instantaneous, and it started in the preseason and continued
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: all the way through. Yeah, he's really starting to come
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: into his own. I like that coming from you. And
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: so after you mentioned Stafford's numbers under pressure, I went
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: and I looked these up. This is per next gen.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: These are kind of nuts for just how low they are.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And to shade this too, right, any quarterback under pressure,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: their EPA numbers are not good. No quarterback had in
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the league has like positive you know EPA when they're pressure.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: But from a total EPA standpoint, Lamar Jackson has the
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: best EPA went under pressure this year at negative zero
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: point four, which is actually super impressive. Derek Carr is
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: second at negative seven point zero. Right, I know, we
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: just keep coming back to the car. So Car is
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: negative seven point zero. Josh Allen is third at negative
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: fifteen point one. So the top three guys are all
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: in the negative. I just wanted to highlight, like, that's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: crazy good for Lamar at negative zero point four. Allen
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: is third at negative fifteen point one. That's a huge drop.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But those are the guys at the top, right, thirty
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: four qualifying quarterbacks at the end of that list, Number
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: thirty four is Matthew Stafford with an EPA under pressure
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: of negative ninety five point four. That is brutal. It
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: is the worst in the league. And again that's from
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: a total EPA standpoint. But if you said, hey, what
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: is it per dropback, maybe it's a little better, and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: you're right it is. Instead of being thirty fourth, he's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: thirty third at negative zero point seven to one EPA
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: per dropback. So in case anybody doubted you or doesn't
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: watch the tape or wanted to hear some numbers to it, Yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: that is absolutely brutal. And I think what's upsetting about
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: it because again it shows on tape, but Stafford, like,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: he's not a guy who panics. He's a guy who
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: can make all these amazing aesthetic throws even when under pressure.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: So seeing those numbers and how stark they are from
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: a bad like lens, it really is kind of jarring
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and shocking to see just how bad he is.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: It's incredible to think about, especially when you think about
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: how good this RAMS team is when there is no pressure. Yeah,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: like they are a machine when there's no pressure involved.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: But the minute, there's pressure. You know, Like we said,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford is great, but he's also at the age
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: and at the end point with his injuries that he
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: can't really move, So he's not gonna do.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: A lot of the same stuff at a structure.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: What he's gonna do is he's going to stand in
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: there and he is going to throw the ball like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: regardless of who's gonna come and hit him, that ball's
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: gonna get thrown. So the problem that the Rams have,
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: and it's the same issue I think the Brady Bucks
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: faced after the Super Bowl winning year, was the attrition
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: along the offensive line. Nobody really was able to gel together.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest thing for an aging quarterback,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: especially like we see it with Stafford, we see it
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: with Rogers in New York. If you don't have the
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: offensive line in front of you, you don't have the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: ability to do the same stuff outside of structure as
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: you do youth too, because that father time is undefeated,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: like that thing that's just gonna happen. So getting pressure
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: on Stafford has to be priority number one, two and
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: three when you drop back the past, when the Rams
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: drop out the past, because if not Stafford's gonna carve you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: He's gonna get his you know you got you gotta
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: get pressure and try and force the issue a little bit.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Stafford has those like when he gets pressure, especially with
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: like a free Runner, if it's like a big moment
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: or something and he has to stand in there, he will,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: but he very much like I feel like, when he
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: gets pressured, especially with a free Runner, it almost like
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: inn hear in his head being like nah f this,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and he's just like chucks it like he's just getting out.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not taking that hit. No, Like I'm
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: not doing it. Like I've played hurt for forever. I've
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: gotten drilled in Detroit game after game, rep after rep.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that anymore. And it's just
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: very much like, oh here you a couple, Okay, I'm
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: just dirting it or I'm just chucking it like I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: don't care, like I don't wait.
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: It's like when Peyton used to just slide when the
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: pressure and I was like, all right, bout this.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm too old for this.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I think that's fine.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: We should bring that back. We need to bring that back.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: We need Jared Golf does it a little bit where
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: if that's fresh, but he'll just hit the eject button.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: He just turned and just turtle. We need somebody to
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: bring that back. We need somebody just go you know what,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: I'm good and just fall.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, that's a good one. I forgot
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: that Manning that manningism. You don't also when I forgot too.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I saw it a couple of weeks ago.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: The clip.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Everyone always talks about the clip of him and like
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday getting into it on the sideline. I forgot
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: about the one where he yells at I think it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Dominic Brown for going the wrong way and pass pro
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: and he's just like God dominant and you hear him
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: and then he has to like doctor to avoid pressure,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: just accepted. You can see him getting up and Dominic
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Brown is like, what, like, oh, man manniot, Yeah exactly,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: He's like what it's like, Oh I wonder why that
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: didn't work out? Oh so yeah, I like those points.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I want to also stay on that side of the ball.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: We'll cue up some film to go into that as well.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Before we do that, Jpa wanted to pull up this
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: graphic that ties into a little bit of the overall
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: conversation here and comes in line with our sponsor for
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• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I was kind of taken aback by this graphic. This
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: is the rushing touchdown leaders for twenty twenty four. Derrick
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Henry with thirteen, Jalen Hurts with twelve, Saquon Barkley with eleven,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Joe Mixon with eleven, David Montgomery with eleven, all kind
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: of I think expected. If you would have said these
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: were like, okay, this makes sense. If you predicted this preseason,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, okay. James Cook also there with eleven.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I was not prepared for the amount of touchdown success
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: James Cook would have this year. Granted a couple of
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: them have been like big house calls. He had one
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: against San Francisco, he had one against Miami, but him
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: starting to get work in the red zone and finding
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the end zone. He's run and so I bring this
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: up for a conversation piece and tying it into kind
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: of a little bit of our first point, the way
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that he runs and the element that that's added to
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: the Bills offense. The juice is still there, the speed
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: is there, but he's running behind his pads more with
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: more contact, balance, with more physicality, and it's showing overall.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: But I think it's really reflected in the touchdown numbers
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: overall just getting across the goal line, but also the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Bills being more confident, I think, and comfortable using him
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: as they get closer to the goal line because the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: juice is still there to beat guys to the corner.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But he can also run through you, just like what
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: game two weeks ago, he you know, scampers to the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: front pylon. Oh against the Chiefs through So I should
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: say the Bie week threw me off that run. They
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: run zone in the low red zone, it is not there.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Chanall shoots tranquels there and Cook is like, okay, I'm
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna beat Trank all around the corner and get
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: to the front pylon and score for a three yard touchdown.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Then he scores later on duo and runs through Cook
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and Bolton and another Chiefs defender like that. Aspect of
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: physicality has really added a lot to his game. But
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: more importantly, I think the Bills offense and more of
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that downhill, that duo nature we talked about against San Francisco.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Yes it was Ray Davis. There was a bunch of
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: James Cook on duo as well getting downhill.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: I think the long touchdown was on duo where he
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: bounced on it and year Brown just took the worst
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: angle of all.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Time, and Cook a race that he saw it and
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: was like skirt and just out the front door.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: It looked like a high school team.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: But I think the thing that surprised me the most
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: about James Cook is the improvement in trusting his eyes
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: and his feet. I think a lot of times early
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: in his career he wouldn't trust what he's seeing. It
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: would bounce it because he he's just a better athlete
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: than everybody else on the field, because that's what everybody
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: thinks when they're a young player, like I can just
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: go do this because it's the same as in college.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: But he has gotten so much better with his vision
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: and his footwork with setting up blocks on top of
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: like you said, he's always going to get every yard available,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: and I think that helps so much for this offense
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: in just squeezing every single yard out of a run.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: If he's gonna get six, he's gonna try and push
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: it to seven. If he gets seven, he's gonna try
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: and push it to nine, and I think that's so important,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: especially in the red zone because again, the margin for
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: error in the red zone is so slip because you
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: don't have a lot of yards to work with. There's
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: not a lot of field to work with, so you
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: have to have good vision and you have to trust
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: what you're seeing in front of you in order.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: To execute some of those blocks. And I think he's done.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Such a good job of running those duo runs where
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: you know he'll try and set up the guy either
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: outside or inside, but he knows he has the perfect
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: timing to bounce it if he wants to, or just
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: take it behind somebody. So his improvement has really kind
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: of stood out to me this season and even last season,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: but he has really come on this season that they
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: true three down back.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done a really good job. His own was
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: his forte. I think at Georgia, you know, just flowing
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: like water and Okay, here's where I go. I'll fit
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: and bounce and burst and there we go. But duo,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: I like how you said that. I think that really
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: highlights his vision and his understanding of pacing and timing.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: He can read that play side linebacker on duo and
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: take his track right at him and fit accordingly. Okay,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like he goes here, I'm going there. Okay, he goes there,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going there. Up or everything is money on the inside. Cool.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Let me bounce it and take the corner on one
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: on one and I can bubble and have the speed
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: to get around the corner and get up the sideline.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Or if the safety takes a poor angle and that's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the unblocked defender I'm going against, I can beat him
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: if he's not on point, which is what happened with
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Jyrra Brown. Same thing that happened with Jordan Poyer on
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the Big run against Miami, which was also on duo,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and that was the one where Miami was over protecting
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to the weak side thinking that the mid zone week
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was gonna come, so they had duo, but it ended
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: up being like a triple team.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: I think, like you got like three people trying down
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: blocking on the nose, you leave the safety in such
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: a terrible situation.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I think I called it true, oh, because
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: it was like a triple team duo and they just
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: got displaced and then it's Poyer and Cook one on one,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: and Cook was like, no, I got too much space.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Didn't even have to cut, just bent it and took
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: it to the house. But yeah, I was actually surprised
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to see like just and it it makes sense, like
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I don't regularly track like touchdowns and like the surface
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: level stats, but seeing this on this graphic, I was like, oh.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, I guess that makes sense,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: like he's found the end zone a lot this year.
• 46:40
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  Speaker 1: for all your betting needs. Let's get into some film
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and along with the second point that I have here,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I kind of just blanketed it with the bills defense
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: versus Sean mcmay, and then I figured we could talk
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: about some Yeah, I went. I was like, I'm just
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: umbrella term in this because I don't like, I'm not
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: gonna get into the weeds with it verbally, you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: without the film piece. I'm I've talked about in the intro.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: You and I talked about it a bit already, like
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: just that nature of what this offense can be and
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: how they operate and what JP and I are going
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: to do. We're just gonna show three plays that kind
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: of represent what the RAMS do and from an operations
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: standpoint of and a lot of it comes from eleven
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: to twelve personnel and from a number standpoint the RAMS
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: this year shock eighty three percent eleven personnel usage rate and.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Then eight down. I think that numbers down it is.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I'm so I did like an in depth study on
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the Rams lines and Texans this offseason because I thought
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: they they they would be three offenses in systems that
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the Bills could borrow a lot from going into this year.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure the Rams eleven personnel usage rate
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: last year was ninety three percent or ninety two like
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: they were in the low nineties. It was super high. So, yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: that's that's so wild. Yeah good, I totally forgot about
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that a year like that's down. Yeah, it is down
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: from last year. So eighty three percent eleven personnel usage rate,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: which is the second highest in the league this year.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: And then they pair that with a sixteen percent twelve
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: personnel usage rate, so ninety nine percent of the time
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: they're either in eleven or twelve, with eighty three percent
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of that being eleven personnel. And again makes sense, Cup
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: and Nakua, even DeMarcus Rominson this year. Their eleven personnel
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: gives them the opportunity to obviously pass the football, but
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: they can also mash you in the run because Cup
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and Puka and DeMarcus Robinson can all block and do stuff.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: They even got too two at well to be like
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: a competent blocker at times last year like they're able
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to just do that there. But whether it's out of
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: eleven or twelve, the key thing here and what the
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: film was gonna show how the Rams use similar presentations
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: and window dressing elements for different concepts. In both The
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Run and the Past. Sean McVeigh has the ability to
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: make so many things look like so many things. He
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: mitigates the confidence you feel as a defense in terms
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of identifying a tell or a tendency, and he starts
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: it off early in every game. He shows those looks
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and the wraps early to plant those seeds into your
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: brain of like, oh, here comes this thing pre snap,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: but it could be like four different things post snap.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: So I guess I got to read it out and
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I can't really like try and get an advantage, or
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: if you do, you're purely guessing. It's like a pitcher
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: who can throw four different pitches from the same arm angle.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: You're just like praying, like all right, man, I'm gonna
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: look fastball, and I hope he throws me a fastball,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and if I get it, I get it. If he
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: throws one of the other three, I'm dead in the water.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: And like that. Those are the kind of the odds
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you're kind of just playing with there. But let's dive
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: into some of the plays here. And so this first
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: play that we have qued up as I find my
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: way to my screen here, where is my huttle screen?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: There? Is?
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: All right? So this first one and I have a
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: highlighted up there. So we have a two by two
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: stack with Pooka over there, and he's going to come
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: across the screen in jet motion. And I don't know
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: why I can't hold on, hold on, JP, tell us
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: some things about the rams that you like, while I
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: never mind I found it. Oh man, wil'n out here? Okay,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: there we go. First, the two y two stack with
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Pooka is gonna come across in jet motion. And what's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: nice here, JP's super simple. You've seen this. We went
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: over it a little bit. Super simple two by two stack,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Pooka and jet motion and we're just gonna run split zone.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Nothing crazy, here comes Pooka. There comes a split zone.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Good gain against a good Vikings defense, right, nothing crazy,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: two by two split zone. Any initial thoughts on this?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Pretty cool? If I go to the second play, yeah.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I think it's a good It's a good way of
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: showing how the rams just kind of poke at you,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: They just they stress you, and it's like, okay, here's
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Pooka in motion, like this could be anything. And then
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: if you see how wide of an angle I believe that,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: uh it's not Van Ginkle.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: It might be Van Ginkle. Actually yeah it I'm right here.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Yes, if you see how wide of an angle he takes,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: he does that because he's worried about the boot, He's
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: worried about Stafford booting out and the tight end just
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: slipping right behind him, and that's how you have that
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: cutback lane. And then all the motion from Puka completely
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: draws everybody to the front side, so that cutback is free.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Great call. So yeah, Van Ginkle takes that wide
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: route because he's playing boot, which helps that sniffer tight
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: end come across on the split zone and the result
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: is a massive hole for Kiren to just get upfield
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: and take advantage of a good Minnesota defense who at
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: this point in the year and even still now was
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: like causing chaos for offense is great call. So again,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: for everyone playing at home, two by two stack up
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: top jet motion from Puka into split zone. Okay, nothing crazy,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: let's watch you go through bang all right, next play
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: This is literally two plays later we have an ACE
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: four from the Los Angeles Rams, but it still functions
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: into the whole two by two idea. Once again, we're
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: going to get jet motion from Pooka Nakua. But this
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: time and again, remember two plays ago they ran jet
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: motion and they ran split zone. Now we're gonna get
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: that jet motion. We're gonna bluff the split zone, and
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna throw a screen to Pooka Nakua. So
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: here's Pooka down here, what are we gonna get? Here
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: comes the jet motion. Stafford taps his foot. Here we go.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: And so you just saw this two plays ago. You
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: just saw a very similar idea, very similar presentation. Again,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit different in terms of the formation from
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: an exact standpoint, but similar idea, similar presentation. Here comes
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the jet, Here comes that sniffer tight end coming away
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: from it. Stafford sticking the ball out. Nope, play action.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: And now Pooka before was just a decoy. He was
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: just there for window dressing. Stafford drops back, HiT's the
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: top of his drop and what do we get? A
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: nice screen to Pooka. And just look at all the space,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: and Pooka is so good yards after the catch. I
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: really like how these two tie in together. That first
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: one that was just a simple hey sentiment, jet motion run,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: split zone, and then now you're showing a similar action
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and using a guy who is purely window dressing with
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: no value other than that. Now you're using him as
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the primary target on a screen. The offensive line does
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a good job getting out in front. And this is
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: a really good game for the Rams.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: It's such a smart way of using your personnel.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: I think Puka Akup is awesome, but Pooka is at
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: his best winning motion and he's able to use yards
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: after the catch. He's an incredibly strong and well built receiver,
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: so you want to get him in those situations. And
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: they just dress it up so well, and they'll they'll
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: do it. They'll throw a lot of screens to Pooky.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: It is their form of easy offense.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It's a good call. Yeah, easy button. So this is nice, right,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: nice little screen to Pooka. Good job, good job by
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: van Gingkle getting downfield. So again, for those playing at home,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: two by two motion, split zone, two by two ace formation,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: jet motion screen to Pooka, who's the jet third play.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Now this is early into the second quarter. So again
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: the idea of planning these seeds early on the first
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: two plays we showed were early in the first quarter,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: two plays apart, kind of planting those seeds. Now we
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: get an ace formation again in the second quarter, very
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: similar to what we just saw on the second play
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: that we showed. What are we gonna get again? We're
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: gonna get the jet motion from Pooka, but now it's
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: not just jet motion, it's jet sweep and we're gonna
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: give the ball to Pooka and now there's space. Look
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: at the impact that it has on ninety right there.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Just oh, three very similar presentations, three very similar actions,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: very similar formations and alignments, three completely different results, all
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: based off this one little thing of motion and JP
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, like this is just one
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: element that they have. Like so imagine this within the
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: entire offense, within an entire game, with all these other players.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: That's the level of detail and manipulation they operates with.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: He can just use such a simple thing as like
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: this kind of formation and alignment and this one motion
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and get the multiple things out of it in a
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: very similar presentation in a very similar fashion, and we
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: saw on each one the way the defense presents differently
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: and how they have to operate accordingly, and the result
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that these are three positive, very positive gains for the
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Rams on each one. And they're setting it up early.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: So now when they go back to it later, now
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you're like, Oh, here comes the jet. Is it going
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: to be the sweep? Is it gonna be a screen?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Is he going to continue out and run the wheel?
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Which he will. Is he gonna come out and run
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the wheel, but it's actually a deep pitch and he's
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: gonna hook it up. Like there's so many things you
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: have to account for.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: And not only that, they'll use motion in the run
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: game with the tight ends. Their tight ends aren't the biggest,
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: so they're just not going to be like monsters against
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: defensive ends. And they run the counter and power duo stuff.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: They'll bring them in motion and they'll have them running
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: full speed at this defensive end. But I actually think
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: there's a rep they had against the Patriots where it
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: was it.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Was actually pretty fun what they did.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: So they they ran counter, but instead of having the
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: backside tackle.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I know what you're talking about, picks out
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: the edge.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: And I think the tight end comes wrapping behind him. Yep.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I've never seen counter block like this.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: That's pretty fun.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: They'll run so many different variations, like they'll run hh
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: counter gh counter, they'll do They'll throw so much stuff
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: at you using that motion. And I think that's such
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: a great point to add.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's It's funny that you mentioned that Patriots play
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: because I remember seeing mcveigh's is one of those dudes
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: that I see him do stuff and it makes me question,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: like the principles of what I know. I'm like, is
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: is that counter And I'm like, no, it is, because
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: there's the down blocks and here's this and here's this.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: But it makes me be like, what concept is this?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Because it just and again it's nothing like I don't
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: want to downplay it, but it's nothing like he didn't
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: reinvent the wheel, Like he's just getting to it in
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: different ways and it's such a complicated offense, but also
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: like simplistic within that complication and how he wields guys
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: and how he uses them and puts them in those
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: different areas. Wanted to show that a little bit on
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the film here, and somebody just kind of going over
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: it with the words. Part of the reason I did
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: that too is because I sound terrible, because I am
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: a little six. So I was like, Okay, I can
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: use the film and don't have to do too much talking,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: even though I had to talk to the presentation. I
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: guess I didn't really think this through, but yeah, just
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: that ability to use similar presentation and window dressings for
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: different concepts, and both the run and the pass, it's
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: not even like it's not even like you can whittle
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: it down and be like, Okay, I know what breaking
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: ball's coming, so it's gonna be something a little slower.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Like there's like three different breaking balls he's going to throw,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: like or three different off speed type stuff. So it
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: could be a curve, it could be a slider, it
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: could be a change up. Like it's not just like
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: fast or slow. You can't bucket him. There's still so
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: many possibilities within those buckets, and I think the film
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: kind of highlighted that, kind of putting that into perspective
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: what the bills are going to have to account for
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: on that side of the ball, which is a very
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: very big test. Jp anything else on that point, or
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: do you want to move to your number three.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: So your point actually ties a little bit into my
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: third point, and my third point actually is and it's
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: kind of just a general thing. It is how the
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: Bills defend motion, because I think that I think how
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: teams have defended the Rams this year has been really
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: interesting considering who they have personnel wise. So I just
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: want to start off with how absurd the Rams are
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: when it comes to using motion. So the Rams have
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifteen passing attempts this season to a
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: target that was in motion. The next highest is the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins at eighty four.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: This is this is what they do.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: They will get you in motion and you are probably
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: getting the ball. You're gonna have to run a country mile.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: And what they do off of it, you see so
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: many teams. It requires so much stamina by the receiver.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: They'll have that receiver running running in motion. They'll have
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: him run dagger. They'll ever run the dig on dagger
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: and it's absurd, like why are you making.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: This guy run this far?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: So they use this motion to create leverage of angles,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: like we talked about at the top, they use they
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: use it to create space. Is so much about angles
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: and geometry and using the available space that you have
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: on a football field, and the Rams maim maximize every
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: single blade of grass with motion.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: However, I do.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Think there is something that Rams haven't been good at
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: in the passing game, and that is offending when teams
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: throw man coverage at them. So among quarterbacks with eighty
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: passing attempts the season, according to sumer Sports, Matthew Stafford
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: is twelfth in the NFL and EPA per play against zone.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: He's shreds zone. He has seen everything this ye against
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: double Yeah, he's seen every coverage ever. You know that
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: that's the benefit of playing so long. But among that
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: same play requirement against man coverage, Matthew Stafford is thirty
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: second in the NFL at a negative.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Point one two EPA per play.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: And I think this is important because we're kind of
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: getting to the point in Cooper Cup's career where he's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: kind of doing that aging gracefully into a wide receiver
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: two or why receiver one B. But the problem is,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: I don't think Puka Nakua is that fantastic against man coverage,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: which is why they have him be the most guy
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: so much. You want to get him into free releases.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: You want to get him against off coverage so he
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: can use that speed to kind of build up in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: the creating separation. He can't do that off of press
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: by himself. I think this was important. In last year's
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: draft process, there were rumors about them want to trade
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: up for Brock Bowers. It is in my latest draft
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: I decided to be a little a little evel and
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: give them Arizona's Ted Roy McMillan because you needing a
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: guy to beat man coverage. Will it happened, I don't know,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: but I think that'd be pretty cool.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: That would be sick. Also, could you imagine if they
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: had gotten Bowers Bowers with McVeigh, how cool would that be.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: I think the Raiders might have saved the future of
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: the NFL if Sean McVay got brock Bowers, because then
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: you had the guy to beat man.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: So I think for the Bills, who predominately they do.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: Play a lot of zone coverage because I think they
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: have the guys to play man against this team. I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: think Christian Benfer has been awesome this year as his
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: Douglas Bin. But I think how they defend that motion
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: and how they stress those rules because not only will
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: they motion across the field, they'll do that exit motion
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: that the Dolphins did, like that everybody stole last year, but.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: They'll also motion to get in.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: And out of bunches and stacks. So they'll create the
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: leverage and they'll create these free releases for Puka, for
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and then that you get into all the
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: traditional ram stuff. You get to the high lows, you
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 4: get into the choice routes, you get into what they'll
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: do a lot of is they'll have pucka run, a
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: lot of outbreakers. Well they'll be comebacks, the he'll be
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: out routes, and then of course just Stafford will rip
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: like seven digs where you're just like, dang, like you tried,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Like it's really like the biggest thing.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: He'll he'll do something and he'll have a no look
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: past or he's just like, Okay, you got us.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: So I think the biggest thing for the Bills is,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: if I'm gonna emphasize a few things for the Bills,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 4: it is communication against this team because of how much
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: motion and how much zone the Bills play, and they
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: do a good job of matching coverages. I just talked
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: a little bit about this with DeMar Hamlin at the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl in Vegas where I asked them how well
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: they do in matching coverages when they're playing zone, and
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: it was like, yeah, that just comes from just constantly
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: drilling it and being like, Okay, if this guy goes here,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: we study it.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: We see if this guy goes here, I'll take him,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: you take him.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: So it requires so much stress of communication and those
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: guys playing together on a string that you have to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: be able to pass off those routes in that zone
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna try and beat this team And then
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: it comes down to rallying and tackling. Like you said,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: they the Rams have switched more from being a downfield
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: kind of boot action team to we're gonna hit you
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: with yards after the catch.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: You have to be able to tackle in.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: Space against this team, especially against Pukakula. Cooper Cup is
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: not what he was, but he still can give you
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: a little wiggle. Kyra Williams will make you miss. You
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: have to stress. You have to stress communication, you have
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: to stress execution. You have to be you gotta be
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: perfect against this Rams team coverage wise, because if you're not,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: they will find they will find the weakness and they
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: will hammer you.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really great point. And especially with it,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: you know, with them being quarterback by Stafford, he can
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: find that weakness quickly, he can find that pain point.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: And then once they've identified the pain point, they apply
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: pressure and they attack and they attack and they attack.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: And I like the emotion element. It was one of
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: my like I was debating going more to like niche
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: down for my second or my third point. I ended
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: up not because I've talked about it so much on
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the shows, and it's everybody from the Shanahan tree has
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: found varying levels of success against the Bill's defense when
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: it comes to motion. You know, from back in thinking
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: the Packers game a couple of years ago on Sunday
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Night when they were just using motion to manipulate the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: second level and Aaron Jones and aj Dillon were just
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: hammer and hammer and hammer. We actually even saw some
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: success for the Jets under Mike Lafleur that same year.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: Earlier that year because I remember being like, oh, no
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: surprise that the Packers did the same thing the Jets did,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: because one they come from the same tree, but also
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: like their brothers, and I'm pretty sure Laflur called Mike
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: and was like, hey, what did you guys do like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: four weeks ago, and they just emulated the same thing.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: And the Bills have had success against Mike McDaniel and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense overall, but the Dolphins have done a
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: great job when when they commit to the run and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: the game script doesn't make them get away from it.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: The Dolphins have had tremendous success running the football with
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: their motion and how they do. And again, a lot
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: of it is the Bills defense. We know what it
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: is because it is zone base, because they usually play
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: light boxes and a nickel base defense. You know, like, okay,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: if you motion this guy, they're gonna bump over like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: they have to bump. They're playing numbers, they're playing space,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: they're playing angles, and if you time that motion correctly,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: or you use that motion to mislead and manipulate, you
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: can catch them after you've set them up on the
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: wrong angles. I mean, we even saw it early on
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: against San Francisco with McCaffrey before he went down, like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: they're using that blast motion from us check to make
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: you think, oh, it's going over here, let's bump over.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: And then McCaffrey, I think it was like the second
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: run of the game.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: It was that toss sounder.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's I used to play linebacker, and that would
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: piss me off so much so all the tails, it
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: looks like toss. It looks like toss, toss, toss, toss, boom.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: He cuts it back the other way and now deep
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: the coordinator is mad at you.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: They're like, what am I supposed to do? Every every
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: rule told me that was toss.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: And then use check comes back around and McCaffrey's running
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: for twenty.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Yards yep, and that second level, Yeah, that would pissed
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: me off as a linebacker. That's a good call. Bernard
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: and Milano both bump with use check's initial blast motion.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: So then when the zone comes, so it ends up
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: playing like toss counter like split zone kind of deal.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: That whole offensive line washes down and they wash down
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: in the angle. Now Bernard and Milano are caught behind
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: that wall. Us check is taking out the edge and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: McCaffrey just has this huge lane to run through and
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: he gets there. But again, that's another example like motion
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: manipulating the second level, and that happened a couple times
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: in the game. Even with Jordan Mason. They were creating leverage,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: they were creating angles and taken advantage of it. I
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: wonder if the rams can have that success and emulate
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: some of that, because again, similar tree, similar idea, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I do think that book is out a little bit.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: You know, you can get the bills on the ground
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: to a degree, and you can manipulate their second level
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and the defense in general with motion and taken advantage
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: of their aggression and their fast penetrating type nature, and
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: then sideline the sideline second level in conjunction with the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: you know, penetrating nature up front. So I think of that,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: and I love your point about the man coverage element.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Pukah's good Cup is good. Benford and Douglas both have
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: size and athleticism and good coverage ability. And I know
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like disrespectful to like Pooka
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: or Cup, but with how we're Seoul and Benford play,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: I really am almost tempted to just be like, yo,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: we're gonna play press man this game. Just get up
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: and jam them at the line and do not let
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: them get off, and beat the hell out of them
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: for sixty minutes and kind of see what happens. But
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: then to your point, the Rams, if they're feeling that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit, they're gonna motion into stacks or bunches
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: and they'll figure out a way to try and get
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: some free releases. I am interested to see how much
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: Man they play in this game, because to your point,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I do think that is a matchup where the Bills
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: are not gonna be scared. I don't think the Bills
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: are gonna be worried about getting beat by you know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Puka and Cup necessarily in Man. I would be worried
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: about getting beat in Man and in the low red
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: zone against DeMarcus Robinson, he has one of the nastiest like, hey,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna run the slant sych it's actually a whip
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: rout and I'm wide open, but he doesn't do like
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: he doesn't turn his body. It's like the fake slant
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: and there's almost Davonte Adams esque and he just stabs
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and pops back out to like the slot or gets flat.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Oh it's really pretty and then aspec Yeah, I do
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: wonder how much they play Man versus sticking in their
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: normal zones, sticking into their match coverages. Like you mentioned,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: great nugget there about you talking to Damar they're so
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: good at the communication aspect and passing everything off. It's
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: why they can afford to you know, no disrespect to
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Damar or no disrespect to Taylor rap why they can
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: have both of their safeties. Neither of them are like
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: the rangiest ball howkeyest type of dudes. Like their secondary
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: is just well coached. Their sound, they do their job
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: because it's drilled into them. They pass off well. So
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: you have this really good sound secondary and coverage unit
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: versus this quarterback and play caller who knows how to
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: pick you apart at a moment's notice. I think that's
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: a really good point. I think that's a really intriguing one.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: It's really intriguing because you know, if you let Stafford
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: get hot, this could go really poorly for the Bills defense.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: Because if Stafford is on, he is like one of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: the five best quarterbacks in the league because he'll just
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: rip these high lows and he'll just.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Blast you every single time.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: I think, uh, I keep thinking of I was in
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: person at the super Bowl when the Rams won and
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: that and that no look to.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Cooper cut Oh yeah he does that every week now.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, oh.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: That's that's just Matthew Stafford, and that's what you worry
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: about in zone coverage because he knows he's seen every
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: zone coverage known to man yep, so now he knows
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: which man to manipulate in that coverage, and you worry
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: about him picking out a guy during this game and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: going like, Okay, you are going to be the one
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: I go against.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: It's like when you have when you have.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: The guy in the start in five and you're playing
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: a team and they figure out he is the week
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: week defensively and they just involve him in every pick
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: and roll and it's like, all right, round that guy
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: and we're gonna go at him for the entire game.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: So you just worry about that in zone coverage. But
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: I think in man you limit sort of you limit
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: the ability to pick on one guy because you're sticking
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: to him all the time. If you get beat man,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: that's like, all right, cool you they they got they
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: got me. You're not You're not gonna give him all
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: the time. In addition, you're not worried about Stafford's mobility.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: So I would I'd be fine with sticking in man
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: because and I wouldn't even I wouldn't be shocked if
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: they start sending some more pressures, some man pressures, because
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: again this Rams offensive line is not the greatest and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: haven't played very much together. So if you can force
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: him to mess with the protections. I think Miami did
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: that a little bit where they forced him, forced him
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: to be wrong a lot, and it kind of flustered Stafford.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: If you can get after them up front and get
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: after Stafford with pressure, then you limit the risk. Like
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: it's a risky thing because you can get beat over
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: the top with blitzing, of course, but you want to
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: force the issue against this team. You don't want Stafford
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: sitting back there and figuring out the weekly You gotta
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: try and speed that up a little bit.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great point like that, as you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: were speaking like that was gonna be my like wrap
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: with that point of you're not gonna just more often
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: they're not, especially from his own perspective. You're not just
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: gonna get like a coverage sack against Stafford, like somebody's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: gonna come open or he's gonna make some stupid layered
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: throw with anticipation fifteen yards downfield the pooka and you're
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: just like, dude, like really, you gotta heat him up quickly.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: You cannot give him like two and a half to
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: three and a half seconds because someone's either coming open
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: or he's gonna throw them open. You have to force
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: the issue. Like you said, I love that point, like
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to say live and die
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: by the blitz, but live and die by like heating
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: up Stafford. Make him do what we joked about earlier
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: where he sees that free rush and he's like, not
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: screw this, I'm out, and he just dirts it because
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: he doesn't want to take that hit. That's how you
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: beat him. That's how you attack this offense. I really,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I really like that point, and that ties a little
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: bit into you know my I only do this for
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: like certain teams who has who have like players I
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: really like or like scheme. I really like this third point.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I just I just kind of blanketed it, like limit
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: the impact of the ram studs on both sides of
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: the ball. And you alluded to it a little bit
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: like even though he's a little older, even though he's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: struggling this year under pressure and he doesn't want to
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: take hits and all that, Matthew Stafford is still very
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: capable of doing Matthew Stafford stuff. The guy who made
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: that ridiculous throw against the Bengals in the Super Bowl.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: That guy is still in there and he's made maybe
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: not that ridiculous, but several stupid ridiculous throws this year.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Like you said, on digs, like he's throwing it in
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: like the second window, the first window on dig. He's
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: throwing it over linebackers, in front of the safety. He's
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: hitting you know, whole shots to Puka. He's throwing outs
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: over the curl flat defender and in front of the corner,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: in front of it, like just what he's able to
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: do sometimes even under pressure. But when you give him
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: the opportunity, and once he gets in that rhythm, once
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: he makes that first Stafford throw, more of those start
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: to come, and it's almost like McVeigh feeds off of it,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: and the offense feeds off it a little bit and
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: they get kind of juiced up and jazzed up about it. Like,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: so don't let Matt Stafford do Matt Stafford things. Cup
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: and Pooka. I love your point about Cup, Like I
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: do think he's starting get to get into the point
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: where he's not like a top five receiver in the NFL.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: But he's still super good. And it helps because his
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: game was never predicated to bot upon like being the
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: fastest or the best athlete. His game was all predicated
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: on like tech, like being a technician and operating with refinement,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: his stems, his route running, his leverage, what he is
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: as a blocker. And then Pooka honestly kind of in
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: a similar way, just tougher after the catch from like
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: a physicality standpoint in different size and frame as well.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: But you cannot let those guys, and I know some
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: of this is on McVeigh for how he weaponizes them,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: but you just cannot let them impact. You can't have
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Pooka be that guy where he's got twelve catches in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: this game for like one hundred and fifty something yards,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: or maybe he does and you limited everything else and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: Stafford only throws for like one seventy. But Cup and
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: pook are both capable of being those dudes who can, yeah,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: double digit catches one hundred plus yards, and that's usually
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: what it is. It's not ten catches for two hundred.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: It's like ten for ninety or like eleven for one
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: to twelve. Because it's all these like six to twelve
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: yard catches that just get you. It's it's seven yards
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: on third and five, it's nine yards on third and six,
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: and just little by little, and like the way they
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: can get you. Do not let them get going those three,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: especially on that side of the ball. Defensively, we talked
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: about him a bit already, Jared versus so nasty. Do
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: not let him game wreck, whether it's the run, whether
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: it's the pass. The Bills love to use their tight ends.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: We'll see if Dalton Kincaid plays in this game. Jared
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Verse murders tight ends who tried to block him and
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: then't do not block him with the tight end. I
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: think he sees that as disrespect. Absolutely, he will send
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: your tight end into the bleachers. Yes, he will shadow
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: realm your tight end in a heartbeat. And Knox has
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: become a good blocking tight end, especially from an inline perspective.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: Quentin Morris is a banger versus better than both of
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: them in that run blocking and that run defense matchup.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I am interested a little bit to see if Kincaid
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: plays in this one. I mean, they don't line him
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: up a ton as like the inline guy when they
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: when they attack him to the formation and stuff. But
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I am very interested to see, like if Kincaid plays,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: even if he was one hundred percent healthy, but if
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: he plays being a little banged up, how much do
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: they avoid kind of keeping him around the line of
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: scrimmage attached to it to avoid having to get him
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: matched up against Verse or having even on the other side,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: like Byron Young's got some nastiness to him, like he'll
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: lick his chops and go through like a tight end.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: As well. I expect to see more six offensive lineman
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: sets from the Bills in this game. So you can
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: put Alec Anderson on Verse and you can try and
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: match big on big Fire with fire and be like, yo,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: just go mash against Verse and if Verse gets you, cool,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: he got you. But at least it's not like a mismatch.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like you just have to limit him on
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: that side of the ball, give yourself some time like
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: we talked about, and then pick apart that secondary. But
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: for me, it's really those four like don't let Matt
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Stafford do Matt Stafford things, limit Cup and Puga, don't
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: let Jared Vers be a game wrecker. The Rams. I
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: like what they've done in the past couple drafts their team, though,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: is this like interesting blend of like high low player
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: variants or like like high end versus low end talent,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: But the high end guys can still take over a
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: game and you forget that they have like a bunch
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: of subpar stars at a bunch of spots and you, yeah,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: but you forget about that because they have some really
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: good dudes and they have Sean McVay. I also think
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: that helps us make us forget that, Like, they still
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: have arguably the worst uniforms in the NFL. I hate
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: looking at them every single time. They're so I hate
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: them like, and I hate I hate that they want
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with those uniforms. I hate uniforms so bad.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I hate what the uniforms have become.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Like the Rams uniforms used to be so cool, Like
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: the navy blue Rams uniforms used to be so cool,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: and now you've kind of gone away from what made
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: you cool, so it feels like you're just going I
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: think this a lot about uniforms. We have gone so
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 4: far when it comes to modernization of them that they
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: kind of lose the quirkiness. Yes, and like the fun
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: characteristics of them like, we don't need a sleek rams.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: It's a ram.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Rams aren't sleek.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: No, it's a freaking it's a ram. They're the opposite
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: of sleek, Like they're like clunky and like blunt, like go,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: I would have been fine. It's funny all the different iterations,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't love the golden navy blue swap from
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: the yellow and navy, but I would take that over these.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: But they had such a the yellow in the navy,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: go with it, or even if you wanted to stick
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: with like the weird the original like Jeff Fisher ones
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that they brought back from like the early days. You
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: want to do the white with the blue, like, okay,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: I'll go with that. I don't know how they got,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: like even the shades of yellow and blue are weird,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: and then how it fits together and then like the gray.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: It just it looks very cartoonish, but not in like
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: a fun cartoon way, like a cartoon that I hate
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: and like I don't want to watch. Yeah, I know
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: it looks like San Jose State.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: San Jose State, Yeah is the one that always comes
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: to my mind. But that's what Like they're like a
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: college and I'm like okay, cool, like that can be
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: like your school colors and you're this and that, like
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: you're a school whatever. You are a professional football team
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: and you won a super Bowl in these uniforms, Like
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I just they're so ugly, they're so bad. Pisses me
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: off and I frustrating. It's and especially too, like you're
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: you play in LA. Those are your jerseys like you.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: No team in the NFL should have like bad jerseys,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: but LA, you are like this hub of culture and
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: design and like fashion and like all this creativity in
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: a variety of forms and fashions. You couldn't, bro, you
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: could have picked some like cool street graffiti artists to
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: come like design those uniforms in a day, and they
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: probably would have been dope. Like I don't know who
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: designed the I hate them. I hate looking at them.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: And it pissed me off too because I watched the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Rams are one of like the non Bills teams I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: pretty much watch like every single week, at least on
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: one side of the ball, if not both. The Cardinals
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: have been my number one this year. I've watched every
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: single bro they are on offense and defense, Like I
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: love everything that they're doing and and you know, it's funny,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: like we talked so much about the Cardinals when I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: had you want to do Bill's Cardinals to start the year,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: and so much of like what we said they could
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: be is especially offensively, is what they've become. And it's
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: been so fun.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: I watch them every single week and the Rams a
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: bit as well. But yeah, I hate the Rams uniforms
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: and it makes me sad. That's why I usually, like,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: no joke, I'll watch the Rams and then when I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: get to the point where their uniforms have pissed me off,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I put the Cardinals tafe on to cleanse the palette
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: and makes me feel better represser.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I hear you, man, this it kind of
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: fits like what the Rams have been this season. They've
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: been a frustrating watch because, again, the highs are so
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: high with this team week when they're on, it's it's
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: still one of the best teams in the NFL when
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: they're on.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: When they're off, it just.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: Looks disjointed, like it looks like a team that just
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: got put together this week.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: So I think for the Bills be wary of.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: Death by choice route that that has always been the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: Rams that has been Cooper Cups thing be whare of
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: death by choice route you are going, You're gonna see
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: a lot of it against zone, against man. You'll see
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: the choice route by Cooper Cup underneath, and then somebody's
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: running a dig behind it and Stafford is either gonna
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: choose the choice route or you're gonna fire.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: That dig high low you to death. You will hear
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: that phrase a ton. Yeah, I feel like that's such
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: a I feel like I feel like Shanahan wanted to
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: get to some of that stuff on Sunday versus the Bills,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: but nobody, nobody could stop.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: I felt.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: And it was funny too. The first I didn't notice
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: it on broadcast. The very first play for the Niners offense,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: they try to send Jennings. Yeah, immediately he tries to
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: turn and just fait and I'm like, oh, dude, Like
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: I just felt.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: So bad like the team from California.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: So that and I actually think they did like a
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: decent point on the broadcast pointing it out like this
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: is granted there wasn't as much snow in the game
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: they talked about, but this is a team that went
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: to like Green Bay in the playoffs and mash screen
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Bay and had no problem. I thought the same thing.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I literally said that to my wife during the game.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: I was like, the Niners look like this soft California
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: team that's not ready to come play like East Coast
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: November and December football. And I know they're super injured.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to use that as like a
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: to give him a pass or an excuse or anything,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: but I know that plays a role. But I just
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: never would would have thought that about the forty nine ers,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Like their whole team plays like veloci raptors, no fear,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: they're angry, they're mean. They definitely looked like, oh no,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: the snow, like nobody could get their footing. They looked
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: like they didn't want to be there. Like, yeah, I
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: was not ex and I know again, I know they're hurt.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting to see that level of like clunkiness
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: and poor coordination and just morale I guess from the Niners.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: It was a weird mix that A. Yeah, I just
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: felt like they were tapped out. I kind of felt
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: that way earlier in the week, though, once Fred Warner
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: came out, was like, yeah, my ankle's basically broken, YadA, YadA.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I felt like that was like.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can say you like fractured a bone ankle
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: against the Patriots in Week four, Yeah, and was still playing.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, please, man. That That's why I say
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: linebackers are not real people. They're not like what do
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: you mean you're playing on a fractured ankle?
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Wait?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Will you?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: I literally thought, I was like it's not like, oh yeah,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: it's like my hand and I can cast it up
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: like how you have a crack in your ankle and
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: you're he's still playing good, like he's making plays. But
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: but also to me, it made me think like usually
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: that's the thing that comes out when like you get
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs and it's like, oh, well this happened,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh okay, you don't put that out
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: in like week twelve or thirteen or whatever. That made
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: me kind of feel like it was like, you know,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I know our season's over. I'm telling everybody that my
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: ankle is broken because I'm tired of getting dragged over
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: the coals by everybody for saying how bad we are
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: and how bad I'm not playing, Like I'm saying this
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: like oh and one of the comments is I think
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: you could still play with a fracture. You can, but
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: that's like.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: That's not the ankle. Yeah, dude, your ankle.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: You can play with it like a fracture head, you know.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: You like, especially at linebacker, you can play on a
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: factored hand.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: But if you can't run. I think we kind of
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: saw it on the Josh Allen scram.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: He couldn't plan and then get that like.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen redirects and Fred Warner normally catches up to him,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: he can't move. And that's why I was like, Okay, yeah,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: this season, this season is over for the Niners.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: Like it felt, it felt like that season was over.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: I think after a debo fumble to kickoff return, yes,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: I think I posted like, hey, we need to send
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: this team back to California before somebody catched the cold.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: We got to that point, the one when I really
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: thought like they because they had moved the ball well.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: And then the Kyle yust check fumble like inside the five,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: right as he's about to score. I was like, oh,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: they're done. And then the debo and I was just like,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: it's just not all these things that were like, how
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: do you know what it's not your day, like the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: debo kick return, like for or the debo and then
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: the use check fumble and then Warner not being able
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: to move to get Allen, and then Warner's reaction after
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: it was very much just like this sucks, Like you
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: could just read his body language through the screen and
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: like just I felt I felt for him because he's
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: a warrior and he's awesome. Yeah that yeah, no, oh,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: this is funny. Should have played better with the weather
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: numbing the ankle good, Yeah, I guess that's fair. Maybe
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: the weather numbed it up like.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: That's I'm from Florida. I don't know if like weather
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: numbing the ankle is like a thing for me.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: That's just you good luck.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: So what I'm thinking of is because obviously being from
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: the cold weather, cold weather, it could numb it a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: little bit, but when you get hit on it, it reverberates
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: through your whole body.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: That cold weather shit hurts.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Like if you've ever played ball in the
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: cold and you've gotten a helmet to your elbow, you
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: feel like your whole arm just got disconnected from your body.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: Like it hurts. Everything is magnified from a pain perspective. Yeah,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: it's oh yeah that uh man four forty nine ers.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens for the Rams, what they can do.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: We went long on this episode, as I knew. Actually,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: you know, no, we did decent. We came in under
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: an hour and a half. I think the last time
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: you were here, or maybe two times ago, we did
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: like an hour and forty five hour fifty almost push two,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: I think, so, I guess. So we went long, maybe
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: kind of short for us potentially, but.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: It's a short one for us.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we kept it efficient, but I'm blaming it on
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent. Like I can every time I speak,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: I can hear how I sound and I hate it.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: And so that's definitely like a huge tib I'm like,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sick and I sound terrible. Some Yeah, maybe won't
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: go the full two. You crushed it, as always. Any
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: final thoughts on this game on either team, anything at
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: all that's on your mind, or if you want to
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: talk about the new day and how me and Kofee
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: and Woods were to e last night. Your timeline was
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: I one of like the funniest things, like you literally
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: like it was like a tweet of like, oh man,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Biggie came out, and then the comment after it, like
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: two minutes later in all caps, was like like why
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: are they being mean to eat? And it was just
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: from there.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: It felt like I was watching families break up. It
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: felt like I was watching a brother break up.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh no, my heart, Like I.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: Think I tweet like after, I'm like Woods and KOFE
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: are going to hell for that. What are you talking about?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: Why are you being mean to that man? Like the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: fact that he was like I broke my neck and KOFE.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: Was like, so what what do you mean?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: It was like you were selfish.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh my yead his neck.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: It's It's honestly an incredible heel turn because everybody is
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: now like everybody hates the New Day, which is like,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: that's how you know you you got him when like
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: everybody is in like okay, like did these dudes suck?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: And it was a complete one eighty from what I
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: thought was gonna happen. I thought Biggie would come out
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: and everything be patched over, or we would have a split.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: They split KOFE in Woods. I didn't think that Woods
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: and KOFE would unite against E, right, So.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: And then like E goes to like leave the ring,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: but he comes back. He's like no, like, I'm not
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: giving up on us. And then like he goes to
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: the hug and Kofe puts the hand right in his
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: chest and he's like, so that's how it's gonna be, COF.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh yeah, poor Like I felt,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: oh man, just poor E. But you're you're Your post
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: just got me. It was just it was the all
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: caps follow up of why are they being mean to eat?
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: And I just and I know how much you like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: the New Day? And I was like, oh.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: I love the New Day. Man. I fell to my
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: knees watching that.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: I'm sitting there ready to crash out, and it's just like.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: I like, how how why y'all be a mean that? Man?
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 4: He coming out for the it was a ten year anniversary. No,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 4: they did this on a ten year anniversary.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Man's in front of the people.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: That's so cold blooded. Yeah, And I just it's just
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: funny too for me with you, because I know I
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: remember when you tweeted. I think it was a couple
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: months ago. I think you said your love for the
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: New Day in terms and like even think of two
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: of them being like one of, if not the best
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: like tag teams of all. I think I think you
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: said something of like you thought they were better than
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: the Young Bucks or something along those lines, so like
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: I know how.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Much they mean to you.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: And last night was just I was just watching you
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: crash out.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: When you juxtapose the players tribute story big Ero yes
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: about the New Days saving his life for Kobe to
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: come back like almost eight hours later and say I
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: don't care that you broke your neck.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: I was going through a spiral at.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 4: That point, like I was done, Like he he broke
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: his body for y'all.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all better be nice to him.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I felt so bad. Yeah that really got me. Yeah,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: I felt for you too. I was like, oh damn it.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: And yeah, just watching you tweet it out, I was like,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: this is the crash out right now, this.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Is this is I found it too. I was.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: I think the first one was like if they break
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: up the New Day, I'll cry.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Then next all caps, oh, thank god big Ea is here.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: Then the next one, all caps falk to him, Biggie.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: Then the thread the next tweet, wait, why are they
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: turning on East?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Stop it that's what like.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: That is when it turned and I was like, wait
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: a minute, what's happening?
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: It read It read to me like because we've all
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: bad that like that wrestling kid. It read to me
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: like the eight year old like with their parent being
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: like yeah, here they come, like here he's coming. It's
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be fine, and being like dad, like why are
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: they being mean to eat?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Like like y'all not being mean to that man, he's
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: doing his best.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Heah, yeah, he did his best and he's a Florida
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: man like you. Yeah, just hit you're right in the fields.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: This is a way to This is a good way
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: to end. Sorry I interrupted you. The floor is yours.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Anything you want to say on yeah, anything about the game,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: anything about your work where everybody can find you, anything
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: you want, however long you want to go, The floor
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: is yours. Uh yeah, whatever you got.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: One of the last things I will say about this
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: game is I think Joe Brady has done such a
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: good job of understanding what works within a game and
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: then just hammering it like we talked about with a
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: duo against the Niners. If something is working, you don't
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: have to stop calling it like you don't have to
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: try and show off that you have such this vast
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: playbook of ways. Just run the stuff that works and
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: don't run the stuff that doesn't. Like It's that easy
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 4: at that point. But if you're good at running duo,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: just keep running it. If the Niners, if the Rams
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: cannot defend duo on Sunday, don't stop running it. Just
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: keep just keep doing it until they stop it. And
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: I think Joe Brady has done a good job of that.
• 1:34:04
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• 1:34:06
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• 1:34:09
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• 1:34:22
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• 1:34:40
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• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: JP and then also on Blue Sky at Acosta thirty
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  Speaker 1: two JP. I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I'm on
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: Blue Sky. You know this as well. I don't like
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: how we can't put underscores in our handles on Blue Sky.
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  Speaker 2: Me, I don't either. I don't like it.
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  Speaker 4: I just I roll with it because I fe like
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  Speaker 4: thirty two was kind of in my thing.
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  Speaker 2: I wore thirty two in high.
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  Speaker 4: School and my favorite football player ever wus Mary Jelles Drew,
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  Speaker 4: so I.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta keep the thirty two. But the
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: underscore is really thrown me off a little bit.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: So I I initially just wanted to be pro at
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: when I made my Twitter hand on my first one,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't because it was taken. So I did
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: pro with the wonder with the wonderscore with one underscore
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: that was also taken. So I that's why I did
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  Speaker 1: the two and ended with it. But now I like
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: it and I'd grown accustomed to it. So I did
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: the Blue Sky thing and I was like, okay, cool
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: at pro understand it was like invalid, I can't have characters,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and I was like what, I just like stared at it,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: and I was like okay is pro and available when
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: it was, and I was just like I felt dejected,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: and I even like look at it every once in
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: a while, I'm like, this doesn't look right, like where's
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: my underscore? And even I you know, I did a
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: promo for just like a promo. I don't know what
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: a tweet is called. On Blue Sky, is called a post.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's called a skill.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: A post.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I called a post too. I'm not going with
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: SKI because that means something completely else. I grew up
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: on a little John and Dave Chappelle, so that is
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: now not I'm not going there. And so like I was,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: I put your name and I was going, you know,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: going live with you know, JP, and I put the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: AT and I typed in the name out and then
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I clicked it and you're just not seeing it with
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: the underscore like annoyed me. And then everything that comes after,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: like the dot b ks y and I'm like, all
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: this has to come through, but I can't get an
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: underscore in my handle, Like I'm glad you feel the
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: same way. That makes me feel better.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: It feels like the do you remember Fake Undertaker?
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, or like with like Gilbert where it's like it's
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 4: you're almost there, You're almost there, but something is just
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: not quite right so close?
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or even like fake uh fake Diesel and fake
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Razor ramone and Survivor series ninety six.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: I was watching that back the other day. That was
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: why I wanted it U. I watched Brett and Austin
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: and then Sid versus Sean, and I totally forgot that
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: fake Diesel and I can't believe they even did that, Like,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: I can't believe Vince cleared that, Like what a horrible
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: idea from that man.
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  Speaker 4: I think the latest throwback pay per view that I
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: watched was it was the Sixth Man Hell in a Cell.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: That was the culmination of Who Ran Over Stone Cold?
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Oh Nice?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 4: And it was just the stupidest like why this cage man?
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: He was in there just to take that bump, just
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: to be like, well, we want to throw somebody off
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: the cage into this truck. So who's it going to be?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: And they're like shut the big man down from there?
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: What are you doing up there?
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 4: That's like the Osyrus Torrents like went through it went
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 4: through a table, like what are you doing up there?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Why are you on the cell? Oh, Cyrus, come down.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. I like that. That's good.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Well done.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: Oh man, this was awesome as uh as always, everybody
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: who doesn't follow your work should again you just knowing football,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: college and NFL, being able to talk it schematically individually,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: player wise, and multitude of teams, avenues aspects, all that stuff,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: and then really good tweets and funny stuff in general
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: about wrestling, the world, life, TV movies, all that kind
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: of stuff. JP, You're awesome. I appreciate the hell out
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: of you. I will probably DM you, and not even probably,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: I will and just sing your praises again, and thank
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: you for just coming on and joining me. I appreciate
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: you every single time. Enjoy the rest of your Tuesday night,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: and I'll see you when I see you.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, thanks for having me later, man, one.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Of the best, mister JP Acosta. Really enjoyed having him
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: on the show tonight, and it was nice to have
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: a guest that that can talk and carry some conversation.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: As I again apologize at the beginning, and I do
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: so in the end here for just sounding not necessarily
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: my normal self. I don't feel bad. I don't feel
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: as bad as I sound, but I don't sound great,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: and I know that I don't sound too great. Wanted
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: to bring up one last piece here and kind of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: see some thoughts from you folks in the if you
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: have some thoughts on this, So we run up the
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns leaders. Rushing touchdown leaders from earlier in this
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: episode talked about James Cook and where he was in
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: that conversation on the graphic presented by our friends from
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  Speaker 1: the passing touchdown leaders of twenty twenty four. You have
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow with thirty, you have Lamar Jackson at twenty nine,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield still rocking there at twenty five. I am
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: interested interested to see. I know there's some MVP odds
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: that came out earlier today I believe were yesterday, and
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen is at the tops in that conversation. Sakwon
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: Barkley has made his way into that conversation for some
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: and I think on this graphic that I'm referring to
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: as well, he was there, but Lamar is still there.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: I know the Raymonds have had a couple of losses,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: but if they kind of stem the tide a little bit,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: his numbers are good. I know Allen's are good. I'm
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: very interested to see how this MVP race kind of
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: shakes out, potentially, not necessarily for myself because if Allan
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: wins MVP, whoever wins MVP really traditionally don't care about it,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: but I know it means so much to Bill's mafia
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: and so much to Bill's fans, and we know how
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: important touchdowns are to it, and kind of those numbers
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: and those wild moments, I think Allen has the moments
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: beating Kansas City. I also think if Allen and the
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: Bills can beat the Lions, I think that potentially solidifies
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: and cements Allen as the MVP winner. But also just
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: from a football perspective, lost in this, I know the
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Bengals are having a bad year. Joe Burrow has really
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: been balling out a little bit. And it's not just
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: the passing touchdowns. It's where he is with EPA, it's
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: where he is with success rate. It is a season
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: that I think is going to be overshadowed by the
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: fact that the Bengals have underachieved and are not performing
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: well and up to their regular snuff and standard that
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: I think people have expected to see them perform up
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: to this year. But Joe Burrow is having a quality
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: year for the Bengals again from a metric standpoint, From
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: a ross stats standpoint, some of the throws that he's
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: pulling off in tight windows, anticipation, the move in the pocket,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: just playing it at a technicality level that I don't
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: think is getting talked about enough because the Bengals are
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: what four and eight now after losing to Pittsburgh this
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: past weekend in a wild shootout that I did not
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: expect from from Pittsburgh and Cincinnati. But yeah, just a
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting season for Burrow, pretty interesting one for Lamar.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: Baker's still riding up there in this graphic as well,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: despite not having Godwin for the majority of the year.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: Evans for a good chunk of it as well. All
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: this guy's kind of you know, falling down left and
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: right for him from a weapons standpoint. But interested to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: see if Allen can creep up into this list a
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: little bit, how much of the raw stats can he
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: add in with the moments to continue to build that
• 1:41:39
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  Speaker 1: exciting game this week. I'm very excited for it. Schematically,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be putting out more film from the
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• 1:45:58
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