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#57 | El Dusty · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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SPEAKER_05: What's going on, y'all?
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SPEAKER_05: Corpus Christi Originals, back at it again, coming to you live from the produce Streamlabs studio, downtown Corpus Christi, Texas.
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SPEAKER_05: Actually, in Dusty's spot, who is our uh guest today.
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SPEAKER_05: What's going on, Dusty?
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SPEAKER_05: What's up, bro?
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SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the show, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having me.
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SPEAKER_05: How's it feel be on the other side?
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SPEAKER_01: Shorter.
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SPEAKER_01: No, it's good, man.
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SPEAKER_01: It's good.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm glad to be here.
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SPEAKER_01: Happy to be here.
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SPEAKER_05: So we got IH5 wicked red into the same thing, bro.
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SPEAKER_05: Breaking bread together.
0:27
SPEAKER_01: Here we are, man.
0:28
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
0:28
SPEAKER_05: It took 30 years.
0:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
0:30
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's one of those things.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just a matter of time, you know what I'm saying?
0:33
SPEAKER_05: That's what's up, dude.
0:34
SPEAKER_05: Man, that's awesome.
0:35
SPEAKER_05: I'd like to hear about so what do you mean, matter of time?
0:37
SPEAKER_05: Like it's just gonna happen?
0:38
SPEAKER_01: Or well, you know, like when two people have similar visions and goals, I think that you know, it's only a matter of time before you cross paths again, you know, especially at that age.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: We're what like 18, 19 years old, you know?
0:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
0:51
SPEAKER_01: And both of us were in these projects that kind of like, you know, they had some weight, you know, and I'm saying it wasn't like we were just gigging like here and there or whatever.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: So I think like especially at that time to have like um success, you know, yeah, and such a young like band and the way we kind of just threw them both together, you know what I mean?
1:11
SPEAKER_05: Like it was just kind of one of those so like we were trying to get signed, right?
1:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think that's the ultimate goal.
1:16
SPEAKER_01: Like what as a as a as a person that does music, I mean, I think that's one of the goals is just like let's get signed, you know what I'm saying?
1:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right on.
1:24
SPEAKER_01: Um, but um, but you know, I mean, at that time that was like that was the goal, you know what I mean?
1:30
SPEAKER_05: But you know, yeah, that was the goal, definitely, man.
1:33
SPEAKER_05: And then we had beef aga beef with each other, right?
1:36
SPEAKER_05: Which I I don't even know why.
1:37
SPEAKER_05: I just know that okay, we don't like that, they don't like us, that's where it's at.
1:41
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:42
SPEAKER_01: I think that it was more so y'all.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
1:46
SPEAKER_01: Because we were like, you know, we were Cal Allen dudes and we were just kind of whatever.
1:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and we we were used to people kind of like hating on us a lot, you know.
1:54
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we're fucking white boy rappers and shit, you know what I mean?
1:57
SPEAKER_01: And well, y'all were good, dude.
1:58
SPEAKER_01: And it was good, but but you know, we were kind of used to it.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: But when you guys came along, like we really didn't even know until like later that it was like, oh shit, they kind of do have a beef with us, you know what I mean?
2:10
SPEAKER_01: And it's like, all right, well, I mean, it it was just, you know, I don't think it was more like now looking back, I feel like it was more kind of just like, you know, like uh what is it?
2:21
SPEAKER_01: Like just like teen angst, you know what I mean?
2:24
SPEAKER_01: Like I I I like like nowadays, I really like like finding people that do similar things that what I do, you know what I'm saying?
2:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm more attracted to that.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: I think as a kid you're trying to find your individuality and like you know, you're trying to do this and that, and then but now I'm like, well, dude, where are the guys that make cumbia beats or where's the sample diggers and stuff like that?
2:46
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
2:47
SPEAKER_05: So so you're always trying to find somebody to collab with.
2:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, just or or learn off of or you know, whatever, man.
2:54
SPEAKER_01: Just like you know, just kind of like do things in similar veins, you know.
2:58
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, right on, dude.
3:00
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's a lot.
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SPEAKER_05: I think we were avoiding each other, like you were saying at that time.
3:04
SPEAKER_05: And I was like, I don't even know why we hate the dudes, but we hate them, you know what I mean?
3:07
SPEAKER_05: Which is dumb now we think about it.
3:09
SPEAKER_05: I was actually talking to Maya about it.
3:10
SPEAKER_05: Like nowadays, they won't even tell you that you hate you, just kind of they befriend you, but they hate you under I'll subtweet.
3:16
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, subtweet you, yeah.
3:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, man.
3:21
SPEAKER_05: So uh yeah, I was researching you a lot, and then I came upon your your mother and your father's obituary.
3:26
SPEAKER_05: I was like, Oh crap, dude, your dad, bro.
3:29
SPEAKER_05: Oh my god, shots out, shout out to your pops, man.
3:31
SPEAKER_05: Dude, for real, uh H E B truck drivers are still to this day respected, bro.
3:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're some of the best on the road, man.
3:38
SPEAKER_01: And they their their whole system, the way it's worked out, is like really good for their employees.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: So I think that's why a lot of those guys are so good, you know what I mean?
3:48
SPEAKER_01: Because the company is so good to their contests and stuff like that.
3:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, that's amazing, man.
3:53
SPEAKER_05: Uh, but even just looking at all the stuff that he did, I was like, damn, this dude did this.
3:57
SPEAKER_05: Like he was in the Marine Corps, yeah.
3:59
SPEAKER_05: Uh family ranch in Ramirez.
4:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:02
SPEAKER_05: Uh man, all kinds of stuff, bro.
4:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he was uh he was a great dude, man.
4:06
SPEAKER_01: He uh he did he achieved a lot of what he did, and he was also like paralyzed from the neck down um since he was like probably like 35 years old, you know.
4:15
SPEAKER_01: And you were you were like well I was like five when that happened.
4:18
SPEAKER_05: So how yeah, that's so how did that how did that affect you?
4:21
SPEAKER_05: I mean your mom was taking care of him, right?
4:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she became his like caregiver.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, I think I was just so young that I never really like understood what was really happening, and my parents were kind of just like really good at like sheltering away the problems that they were having to us, you know what I'm saying?
4:39
SPEAKER_01: So I think that that's kind of that's kind of what um that that we we just it was just normal to me and my little brother.
4:47
SPEAKER_01: My older brother, you know, of course, he was like in 13, 14.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know, naturally he was, you know, kind of it it it affected him a lot more than it affected us, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: But looking back, you know, I really do, you know, I of course I wish that my dad was up and around and stuff like that, but I am kind of thankful that since he was at home so much, we got to spend so much time together, and um he got to teach me so much more about other things in life than like throwing the ball and all that type of shit, you know what I mean?
5:18
SPEAKER_01: But he was a pretty wise dude, man.
5:20
SPEAKER_05: I mean he was he he had been through a lot, so a lot of the stuff that he taught you, do you find yourself doing that today?
5:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, I mean, just you know, the the like don't give up kind of uh mentality and um just kind of like order to things and thing and shit like that, you know, and like um he kind of like I I I definitely have a lot of his traits.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, we do like overdo a lot of things or make sure that like whenever he was like building his home, he made sure that all these things were in place and it was just like super solid and like you know, all these weird things, like he had a bunker and all this kind of stuff.
5:57
SPEAKER_01: But like, but like you know, like uh it it and so I I think that way as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Like that's normal to me.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: So I'm kind of like when we're building this place, it's kind of like all these things, these little details that we had put in place that were kind of like, Do you really need to do that?
6:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, I mean, because later on we can run, you know, cables all through the walls and all this kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
6:18
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
6:19
SPEAKER_05: That's dope, man.
6:20
SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's awesome.
6:21
SPEAKER_05: So I I always I always resort to like parents.
6:24
SPEAKER_05: What's going on, y'all?
6:25
SPEAKER_05: Anthony Diaz.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
6:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's a Marie's ex-Marine Corps.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: My dad was a Marine, man.
6:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, hell yeah, dude.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: Uh El Colombiano, that's my homie.
6:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, what's going on on Facebook?
6:37
SPEAKER_05: Appreciate you guys joining.
6:38
SPEAKER_05: We got some people on TikTok as well.
6:40
SPEAKER_05: Uh Kelly Corral.
6:41
SPEAKER_05: Uh, what the hell?
6:43
SPEAKER_05: Can't read it.
6:44
SPEAKER_05: Kind of small over there.
6:45
SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, man.
6:48
SPEAKER_05: Tell him it's collatic.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: Justy recorded me when I was 16.
6:54
SPEAKER_05: Nice.
6:55
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we go.
6:58
SPEAKER_01: Simplify.
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SPEAKER_01: There we go.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're we're already on.
7:02
SPEAKER_04: You wanna come in?
7:03
SPEAKER_04: You wanna come in?
7:04
SPEAKER_04: You can join if you want to.
7:05
SPEAKER_04: Oh no, you're good.
7:06
SPEAKER_01: See, that's how it goes around here.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: All right, yeah.
7:09
SPEAKER_01: It's a it's a worked wheel, you know, but like that's the way it works.
7:12
SPEAKER_01: Like, there's people working, people are doing they're shooting a commercial outside, they need something.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we but we just gotta keep going.
7:18
SPEAKER_01: It's cool, bro.
7:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, you give the opportunity for people to like be in a be innovative.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
7:23
SPEAKER_05: Uh and that's what that's what's cool that you're doing down here.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: I know it's good here, man.
7:28
SPEAKER_05: That's good.
7:29
SPEAKER_05: Why why is that?
7:30
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I mean, just like I I don't know.
7:34
SPEAKER_01: I a lot of people like gave me chances when I was young, you know what I mean?
7:39
SPEAKER_01: And like uh, I feel like it's like I need to do these things anyway.
7:44
SPEAKER_01: If like some of these guys that are younger can come in and like learn some stuff and we can both benefit, then you know, why not?
7:50
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
7:51
SPEAKER_01: Like, and so that's kind of how it's been here.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Produce has always been kind of like a revolving door of artists and DJs and uh producers and stuff like that, and people have come through here that have done a lot of great things, you know.
8:03
SPEAKER_01: But it's not um it's never like a you know closed door session, you know what I mean?
8:09
SPEAKER_01: Even when it is like how it is right now, you know, it's like Andrea will come in here or somebody will come in here and make a hey, what's up?
8:15
SPEAKER_05: Or yeah, that's amazing, dude.
8:16
SPEAKER_05: So do a lot of people get a lot of yet misconceptions about you regarding that type of stuff, or um I don't know.
8:23
SPEAKER_01: I I think like uh like what do you mean?
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Like, what does that mean?
8:26
SPEAKER_05: There are there is there things that people get wrong about you?
8:30
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, man, I stay pretty sheltered, man.
8:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna lie.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: I I stay around this neighborhood like 80% of the week, you know what I mean?
8:40
SPEAKER_01: 90% of the week.
8:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Maya will tell you.
8:43
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't really leave much and I kind of make like mind my own business, and I think that's kind of worked in my favor because I, you know, I don't necessarily have like a lot of people hating on me and shit like that.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Of course, you know, and when the mu when people have different uh opinions on music and stuff like that, like it's like you know, but I don't really take that to heart because I I you know I know how that goes, you know what I'm saying?
9:06
SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
9:07
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I've if they do, I don't know about it, you know what I mean.
9:09
SPEAKER_01: And I kind of like to keep it like that.
9:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome.
9:12
SPEAKER_05: Just talking to you and just you coming in out here, it's like you ain't got time to worry about that stuff.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it's just you know, it's just one of those things, man.
9:19
SPEAKER_05: Right on, man.
9:20
SPEAKER_05: So speaking of music, we were talking, my and I we're talking about in the last episode, last episode, we're talking about the AB Kitania thingy.
9:27
SPEAKER_05: What's going on?
9:28
SPEAKER_05: What do you think about that?
9:28
SPEAKER_01: I mean, man, honestly, like when the VIP is right up there up front, and ever and they're all you know, they paid for those seats, and a lot of them have uh wine on their tables and they're they're there with their dates and stuff like that.
9:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, they don't want to get up and dance, you know.
9:46
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like it was a it was a logistics error.
9:48
SPEAKER_01: Like they should have put that VIP behind the dance floor raised so they could see the artist perfectly, and the dance floor could be going crazy and the artist can be going crazy, you know what I mean?
9:59
SPEAKER_01: So, and man, I mean, after so many hits and so many years of doing that stuff and putting up with it, I'd imagine that it gets a little, you know what I mean?
10:09
SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, I've been there, you know, where the crowd sucks, you know, and it's just like, dude, it it's really frustrating, you know what I'm saying?
10:16
SPEAKER_01: So for you to bite your tongue for so many years and then like, you know what, fuck this.
10:20
SPEAKER_01: Wow, crazy, bro.
10:22
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
10:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so I kind of I mean, it's not that I agree, I agree with him.
10:27
SPEAKER_01: I do agree with him.
10:28
SPEAKER_01: I think it was a logistical error, and and it of course it he could have avoided it by not saying it, but man, at the same time, like, bro, it had a point, man.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
10:38
SPEAKER_01: Bro, like it's like, but but but you gotta have there's two sides to that story.
10:42
SPEAKER_01: You know, the VIP paid for their seats, they wanted to sit down and they wanted to chill, and that's great, you know what I mean?
10:48
SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, it's a concert, man.
10:51
SPEAKER_01: It's a music show.
10:52
SPEAKER_01: Like, people wanna the the artist is expecting to go out there and kill it, bro.
10:55
SPEAKER_01: It's A B, bro.
10:56
SPEAKER_01: That's like his backyard, you know what I'm saying?
10:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, of course they were gonna dance, and I'm sure that the audience was dancing, you know what I'm saying?
11:03
SPEAKER_01: Like other people out there, but just that front row, man, to have that whole front row, like man, that's frustrating.
11:09
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's really hard to deal with.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: And trust me, like in the back of my mind, I've cussed out a lot of crowds, you know what I'm saying?
11:16
SPEAKER_01: But I ain't got the balls to say anything, though.
11:18
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
11:20
SPEAKER_01: But all you people out there are you sitting down, you suck.
11:27
SPEAKER_04: That's crazy, man.
11:29
SPEAKER_04: He brought the cowboys in too.
11:30
SPEAKER_04: I was like, oh, I mean you wait, man.
11:32
SPEAKER_04: The man was frustrated.
11:33
SPEAKER_04: The men was frustrated.
11:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
11:35
SPEAKER_05: That's man, that's a cool algorithm, man.
11:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, for sure.
11:38
SPEAKER_05: Wow, and you as a DJ, you gotta read the room, you gotta read what's going on, and you can read the room, yeah.
11:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so you can't just have a mix and just boom boom boom damn, we're done.
11:46
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
11:47
SPEAKER_05: So, what's your uh mine and I were talking about?
11:49
SPEAKER_05: So, what's your go-to uh when DJing?
11:53
SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I like you know, when my whole time DJing growing up was like I'm the DJ at the club and I play for four hours or like whatever, right?
12:03
SPEAKER_01: And so I used to like be really open format that that kind of um where I'd play like all kinds of different things.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: So like I was lucky, lucky enough to play at places where they would kind of like let me program my own style or whatever.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: And um, I'd kind of like go by, you know, it's early, it's nine o'clock, I'm not gonna come out here and kill it, you know what I'm saying?
12:25
SPEAKER_01: So like play some reggae shit or play some some early cumbia or some like weird stuff, hip hop, and then you know, kind of like read the room, you know what I mean?
12:34
SPEAKER_01: Like exactly what you're saying, like just kind of play to the crowd.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: And at by 12 o'clock, everybody's like already getting drunk.
12:41
SPEAKER_01: By one o'clock, everybody's slam, so you can play whatever you want.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: And then like one to two, you just kind of like kill it, and then you know what I mean?
12:50
SPEAKER_01: But but you but but doing that for so many years like gave me an outlook of where now when I do it for an hour, like at my show, it's just kind of like flawless.
13:00
SPEAKER_01: I don't even have to think about it anymore, you know.
13:02
SPEAKER_05: Uh uh Corpus Security Horror Club says, uh, how does anyone sit down during the L Dusty set?
13:09
SPEAKER_01: Well, if their VIP is right in front of me, I might feel it.
13:17
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what's up, man.
13:18
SPEAKER_05: So yeah, you've obviously been doing it for a long time, and then so you were with Universal, and then you I guess you didn't sign another contract to continue on.
13:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so you I got I got released.
13:30
SPEAKER_01: Released, yeah, yeah.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: I got my release.
13:31
SPEAKER_01: Well, because what happens is I fulfilled my contract, I did all the songs and I did all the singles and all my my things, and then they were gonna re-sign me because our contract was gonna be expire, you know.
13:42
SPEAKER_01: Like it's just like I mean, really, like a lot of people don't finish their contracts, but it you sign this crazy ass contract that like you'll never finish, you know what I mean?
13:52
SPEAKER_01: But the one that I had wasn't necessarily like the best for both parties.
13:56
SPEAKER_01: None of us were it was it was nobody that was gonna win, it was just a thing that was just gonna happen, and it was kind of good for me in a way, but in a in a way, it was kind of like you know what I'm saying?
14:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, I like where is all this at?
14:09
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
14:10
SPEAKER_05: But kind of like, so what you what do you mean?
14:12
SPEAKER_05: So you just decided like no more?
14:14
SPEAKER_01: Well, I just didn't think that the offer was like okay, like like because dude, being signed, like it's a lot, like you gotta run uh every single thing through like a bunch of people, and I'm kind of like an independent dude, and I'm down here in Corpus, where all my peers and all my workers were in LA and like in in Miami, and so I kind of work at my own pace, but also like I was I wanted to release stuff a lot, you know, and it would have to go through this like chain of command that was just like, well, this guy hasn't heard it, and this guy doesn't think this, and this guy thinks that, and it's just like, man, I'm tired of this shit, you know what I mean?
14:49
SPEAKER_01: And like, and so whenever they asked to re-sign me, I just said, I the deal was cool, the money was fine, whatever, but it just didn't make enough sense for me to be like, you know what, let me just go through this all over again for the next 10 years, you know what I'm saying?
15:04
SPEAKER_01: So it was like it was a bear it was a very big decision for me because it like you know it changed being signed, like changed my life, you know.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: But um, but also, you know what I mean, like it's you know, I'm not 19 years old anymore or whatever, you know what I'm saying?
15:17
SPEAKER_05: When you're done, you're done, bro.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: When I was done with that, I definitely ain't done.
15:22
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm I feel busier than ever, but the but you know, the I was done with that shit, you know what I'm saying?
15:29
SPEAKER_05: So you're so you're now basically taking on the role that everybody had there yourself, yes, as an indie artist.
15:34
SPEAKER_01: Yes, and that role is not easy, but um, but I mean you know, like it it at least it's at my own pace.
15:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right on.
15:42
SPEAKER_05: That's cool.
15:42
SPEAKER_05: So you're not only doing that, you got this right here, what we're doing, and this awesome studio, man.
15:48
SPEAKER_05: And you have produce studios, you got the bar coming out, yeah, right?
15:51
SPEAKER_05: You got all that stuff.
15:52
SPEAKER_05: That that's just part of all the stuff that you're doing.
15:55
SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, that takes up a you know, the right now the the okay hi-fi is a bar that we're opening next door, but it that pretty much takes all my time right now.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: Um and fighting bar players.
16:09
SPEAKER_04: Fighting bar piles.
16:10
SPEAKER_01: Uh but uh no, like uh that takes up a lot of time, you know.
16:14
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of we're building it and we're kind of like, you know, I I like to like wire stuff myself and do shit myself sometimes.
16:21
SPEAKER_01: And um not the not the hard shit, you know, but like this the fun stuff, the turntables and all that.
16:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right on.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: But uh, but you know, um uh it's just taking up a lot of time, but it's about to open next Thursday.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna soft open or next Friday.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, we're gonna soft open.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: And um it should be good, man.
16:42
SPEAKER_01: I want to see what kind of people are gonna show up over here because it's like a a you know, DJ lounge, you know.
16:48
SPEAKER_05: There was an older lady that was walking by, she was talking about it opening and stuff.
16:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right on.
16:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, definitely.
16:52
SPEAKER_05: She I think she lives around here, she walks her dog or whatever.
16:54
SPEAKER_05: She's like, I can't wait till it opens.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
16:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, dude, it was cool.
16:57
SPEAKER_05: Right on.
16:58
SPEAKER_05: See, yeah.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying.
16:59
SPEAKER_01: Like, you don't know what who the regulars are gonna be, like, you know, like what's that gonna be like?
17:04
SPEAKER_05: Well, she was saying, she was like, Yeah, it seems like a thing where you could do after you get off work, you come in jail.
17:08
SPEAKER_01: That's exactly the mind frame.
17:10
SPEAKER_05: That's what bro, is that because you're downtown?
17:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean I mean, kind of like if you I feel like you know, like I don't go to work nine to five every day, but I feel like in the in my brain where it's like if if I had a nine to five, I would go to work at nine and like get out at nine and then like or five and then be like, you know what, I want to hit the bar, and it's downtown.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Here's the bar, like have a drink and then go home and you know.
17:31
SPEAKER_05: So when you have these ideas, that makes me I'm sorry, man.
17:33
SPEAKER_05: I I get real into the conversation that makes me think.
17:36
SPEAKER_05: So when you have these ideas, before you start it, you obviously have this uh uh a thought process before you bring it out, right?
17:45
SPEAKER_05: So you don't just necessarily okay, I got this idea, let's do it.
17:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, you think it through, right?
17:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
17:50
SPEAKER_01: Man, we've had uh so many different things that we're like, oh, we're gonna do this, and we're but it's just you know, it fizzles out.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: But like I like to like write things down or or like I have all these glasses like and I just started writing on them all the time, and we would just put goals like throughout the week write the whole year out of like things we can do, and then it kind of just like gives you kind of like a purpose of like where you know the the the the rollout and and the order of things that are gonna happen, you know what I'm saying?
18:18
SPEAKER_01: And that kind of I kind of take that like music kind of rollout uh technique and I apply it to like different things like the bar, like yo, we're gonna build the bar, we're gonna build hype, we're gonna do uh all this kind of stuff.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: And uh and um that's you know, and then we got the drop date, you know what I mean?
18:37
SPEAKER_01: And so you put it out and you hope for the best.
18:40
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so when it so you obviously got a team of people.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
18:44
SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, how do you how do you remind yourself I guess you know, coming upon that?
18:49
SPEAKER_01: I I think like um I mean just word of mouth, you know, like and and the scene in Corpus is is kind of I mean it's very big now, but it was it's been smaller and I've grown with the scene as well.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: But like the art scene is like it's like you know, everybody kind of knows each other or everybody's like heard of somebody or or whatever, but eventually everybody kind of walks in here and just to at least like figure f like to do some things or record something or whatever or and or just meet up and just talk and chop it up, you know.
19:21
SPEAKER_01: Like I'm I I love doing that.
19:23
SPEAKER_01: But the you know, like Chris, I found Chris, I heard about him like doing his uh like his productions, like yikes and stuff like that.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: And um, I started talking to him and I felt like this guy like really has a similar outlook on things, and I was I would invite him over.
19:40
SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, hey, if you want to come to produce and just kind of you know work out of here for you know what I mean, just come through or whatever.
19:46
SPEAKER_01: And uh and so he we started talking about stuff, and then I f I saw that he was a really good like producer as far as like he could organize things and follow through with them.
19:57
SPEAKER_01: Logistically, he was like good at like or arranging things because that's what he was doing with his sets, like directing and producing his own his own sets.
20:05
SPEAKER_01: And I saw his stuff and I thought it was really tight, you know.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: So I I invited him to over.
20:11
SPEAKER_01: Now he's running the bodega.
20:12
SPEAKER_01: He's basically the manager of produce.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, he introduced me to Maya.
20:18
SPEAKER_01: Um, and like all their friends are just kind of like it's exactly the way me and my friends were, you know, 15 uh 10, 15 years ago, where we were just young and like trying to do stuff and just trying to make it happen.
20:32
SPEAKER_01: We didn't uh you know, we built produce, we didn't have like a produce, you know what I mean?
20:36
SPEAKER_01: But like I just want it to be kind of like this isn't a closed door, it's not just like a private place, but um also like you can come and like learn and work and like we can all like kind of like make money.
20:49
SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
20:50
SPEAKER_05: I was talking to him earlier, uh he was working here, well, kind of like freelancing, and then you hired him, and then he was trying to figure out why you didn't ask him to work because you were looking for somebody or whatever, yeah.
21:01
SPEAKER_05: And he was like, I don't know why, but I just mentioned to him.
21:03
SPEAKER_05: Oh, you mentioned that he was too busy or whatever.
21:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I you know I I like to I don't like to like delegate too much to too many people.
21:11
SPEAKER_01: Like if we have enough, if we have people, then I like to like say, hey, look, let this person do this, let this person rest while this person's doing this, you know what I'm saying?
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and and I I don't wanna, you know, I know Chris is is able to like do stuff, a lot of different shit, but I do think that like um everybody needs a little time to like relax, you know what I'm saying?
21:31
SPEAKER_01: So gotta think about the people that work he's got a whole lot on his plate, dude.
21:35
SPEAKER_01: Like he's going to school, he's doing all kinds of stuff, he's got a lot.
21:38
SPEAKER_05: Man, that's cool of you to hold to see that in in your your workers, man.
21:42
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
21:43
SPEAKER_05: Hi Bike, right down the street.
21:45
SPEAKER_05: What's up?
21:45
SPEAKER_05: Will you be creating your own Pubia Award show?
21:50
SPEAKER_05: Um maybe Bessie continues to build Corpus Christie.
21:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bro.
21:57
SPEAKER_05: What's up?
21:57
SPEAKER_05: So what I mean, you've been building down here for a while.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: Right.
22:01
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:01
SPEAKER_05: I mean what's I mean why why?
22:03
SPEAKER_05: Like what's what's going on?
22:05
SPEAKER_01: Well, um I've always worked downtown.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Um well I used to have a a studio at Nuasis Loss back before it was Nuces Lost.
22:14
SPEAKER_01: Oh right.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: It was called the Nuasis Building.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: But um me and a couple friends like had our we had rented an office and it had a bunch of different literal rooms in it, and we all kind of like built studios in there and we would hang out and like you know, a bunch of people would come through there all the time, and um and um it was just cool, you know what I mean?
22:34
SPEAKER_01: Like and and it was kind of like produced, but it was like way smaller and the the scene was was way different.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: But it it was back whenever like stingers and all that stuff was around, so like downtown would get like crazy on the weekends, but during the week it was like super dead, and then it just everything kind of died and we found like we moved to we we stayed in Uasus House for a long time, and then uh I found like I I you know stopped working uh down here for a couple years, and then I came back in 2008 or 2009 with what we found produce and we started renting it and then uh eventually, you know, buying the building and stuff like that.
23:12
SPEAKER_05: So um but uh how do you feel about that?
23:16
SPEAKER_01: Good man, I like I like real estate, I like that game, man.
23:20
SPEAKER_01: You know, you uh when I was younger and and my vision wasn't as as broad, I used to just be like, man, I'm just gonna end up being some real estate guy.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: And like now I'm like, I want to be a real estate guy, you know what I'm saying?
23:33
SPEAKER_01: I want that shit.
23:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, man.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: We got I I I've I'm partners in the building next door.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: I own the building behind it, the the vault building.
23:42
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's me and my brothers, you know, we're we're a team, we're a partnership.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm kind of like the the the the dude who manages all of our properties and all of our things.
23:52
SPEAKER_01: So um it's pretty cool.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: That's something you learned from your dad, probably.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my dad was the was one of those ones that could just like see something and um know that it had like a value later on, you know.
24:06
SPEAKER_01: He he uh when he got hurt, he had a you know a little settlement or whatever, and then he went out and bought all this land, and um one of those pieces of land was like uh some acres in Cal Allen where um it's like up against Hazel Baysmore, which is like a national park, and then on the other side it's like the high school.
24:25
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
24:25
SPEAKER_01: So like he'll never have neighbors, you know what I'm saying?
24:28
SPEAKER_01: And it's just like, dude, how did you think about this shit?
24:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, dope, man.
24:32
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome, bro.
24:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so wow, that's crazy.
24:35
SPEAKER_05: So do you think about your dad often, man?
24:37
SPEAKER_01: All the time, man.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
24:39
SPEAKER_01: That's my that's my pops, man.
24:41
SPEAKER_01: He was like, you know, I I mean, dude, like we were really tight, you know.
24:44
SPEAKER_01: He was um like especially you know, my mom passed away in 2013, and then he's he lived till 2017, and during that time, I would just spend a lot of time with him, and he became like a homie, you know what I mean?
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Like I he really was like a human at that point, you know.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: It was like I really got to get to know him, you know what I'm saying?
25:04
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't like uh the parent filter was off, you know.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: He recognized me as a man, and it was just like yeah, it was cool to spend those last couple years with him like that.
25:14
SPEAKER_05: You mentioned the ranch.
25:15
SPEAKER_05: I was talking with my my uncle Robert, and he went to he would go hunting with Matt, Uncle Matt at the ranch.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit.
25:22
SPEAKER_05: I was like, hey uh Uncle Robert, what'd I ask Dusty?
25:25
SPEAKER_05: He saw shout out to him, yeah.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Man, those there's the a lot of those people have been out there for years, and there's some hunters out there that we have that are you know to take good care of it, and it's it's a badass ranch, man.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
25:36
SPEAKER_05: That's what's up.
25:37
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
25:38
SPEAKER_05: Do you do you still go hunting?
25:39
SPEAKER_05: Do you hunt and I don't I don't hunt.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: I I I like to go out there and chill and I know how to hunt when I was young.
25:44
SPEAKER_01: My dad, like, and my uncles, like, I did the whole thing, man.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: I skinned plenty of javelinas and plenty of deer and rabbits and all kinds of shit, and I've ate, I've I've skinned it and I've killed it and I've eaten it.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
25:58
SPEAKER_01: But like I'm a changed man, you know I don't know.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: I'm all cat by heart, but I'm a I'm a I'm a changed man, you know.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't do that no more.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: Um but you know, like I've learned how to do a lot of things growing up from my from my pops like that, you know, growing up at we would go to the ranch every weekend pretty much and go fill feeders and you know, do the whole thing.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: We and um and just like you know, just got to learn all that lifestyle.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: He taught us about guns like when I was really little.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he how to handle them, how to take them apart, clean them.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm a great shot, you know what I'm saying?
26:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, so it's cool, you know.
26:38
SPEAKER_05: He was like uh some kind of shooter in the Marine Corps or something like that.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I mean, he was just I I don't know if he he wasn't like a sniper or nothing like that.
26:46
SPEAKER_05: What would he say today?
26:47
SPEAKER_05: Um that's seen that what you're doing, all this stuff.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: I think he'd be proud, man.
26:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he he me and him worked together a lot when he was alive.
26:54
SPEAKER_01: Like he started, you know, he he he still had like business, you know, and so we would I would help him with a lot of things.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, we always had plans of like doing stuff, you know, getting these old buildings and doing things with them and stuff like that.
27:07
SPEAKER_01: And so I think that he would he would he would dig it.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: He used to come out here and roll around and check it out.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: And he was just like, man, this is a this is really cool, you know.
27:15
SPEAKER_01: And my mom did my mom and dad both saw produce, not the way it's fixed up now, but um, like, you know, they both we we had, you know, my dad, me and my dad like owned the building before he passed away.
27:28
SPEAKER_01: Um and uh and so you know he's been here and all that, but he never got to see it fixed up like this.
27:34
SPEAKER_01: But I'm sure he'd be Anthony Diaz, all Marines are grunts first his his he was that was definitely his his name, ex-grunt.
27:42
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
27:43
SPEAKER_05: It's awesome, man.
27:44
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Anthony Diaz, he's a podcaster also, uh, which man.
27:46
SPEAKER_05: So I asked so how do you feel when I first like shot out, I shot you a message.
27:50
SPEAKER_05: Hey, I want to do the book these days for the podcast.
27:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, how'd you feel about that?
27:54
SPEAKER_01: I was cool.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: I thought it was awesome, man.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: I I you know I've been trying to get people in here to kind of like you know, we did our own podcast, Dusty Crates, for a long time.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: And really, at first it was kind of like, well, let's let's get together and do a production.
28:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so now let's uh you know let's let's try to get people to come and record podcasts here.
28:13
SPEAKER_01: I didn't want it necessarily to be like this is the Dusty Crates set, it's just like this is a produced stream lab set, and you can do whatever you can have it like this, or you can pull down the green screen and kind of do whatever.
28:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I I wanted it to be a podcast room where people could feel comfortable and like if a DJ wanted to come and do a DJ set, we got a DJ set.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: Nice.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: Also, it's rigged up to where we can just have a regular podcast, and you know, you guys come in here and just record it and and pump it out, you know, and where it was easy enough to do.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: Um, so that that was kind of like the reason to sort of like do dusty crates.
28:47
SPEAKER_01: But when you asked, I was just like, Let's do it.
28:49
SPEAKER_01: That's that's cool as hell.
28:51
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
28:51
SPEAKER_05: So did you so uh do you knew podcasts were gonna be a good thing?
28:54
SPEAKER_05: Like people were gonna want to do that?
28:55
SPEAKER_01: That's what well a lot of people had asked me if they could record podcasts here, like in the studio, you know, like hey man, can we record the audio version?
29:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the audio version.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: But I was like, dude, like you know, I've naturally I need a place to practice.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: I also you know wanted to do podcasting and wanted to get into that kind of stuff and and and and still and and then you know COVID came and all that kind of shit.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: So it was like, oh man, we can like reinvent the wheel now, you know.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: I wow I wanna I I eventually well if I you know like whenever I stop touring and stuff like that, which is like you know, it's tired very tiring, like just being here, kind of like being able to like you know do my own thing, express myself or practice or DJ online and things like that.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Those are like important to me.
29:39
SPEAKER_01: So I think that like having a place like this is like it's like a dream, you know what I'm saying?
29:44
SPEAKER_05: Speaking of touring, man, how how does that how does that have an effect on your on your mental health, physical health, and how do you find yourself I guess dealing with it, you know, or or working on it, you know what I mean?
29:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, um it definitely affects me, you know.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: I'm getting older and like you know, when I was when I was younger, I was able to just like be on the road seven days a week and and and it wouldn't do anything.
30:09
SPEAKER_01: We could drive wherever, wherever.
30:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but now you know it's it's definitely caught up, and um, you know, it's like I but it's also like a big pressure thing, you know what I'm saying?
30:19
SPEAKER_01: Like you gotta expectations to like play these type of shows and like play this many shows, you know what I'm saying?
30:25
SPEAKER_01: Like I've gone years where it's like I had a show like every single weekend multiple times, and it and it's just like you know, I forget that like the average dude doesn't really do that, you know what I'm saying?
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Like so uh, so like be I'm grateful for like the the things that I've got to experience, you know what I mean?
30:44
SPEAKER_01: Like I've already done a lot of that shit.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm kind of like, all right, now how can I make as much money but from here, you know what I mean?
30:51
SPEAKER_01: And not have to like go.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: I do like traveling and I do love to be on tour.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: I love doing shows, like I'm doing shows this weekend and and all you know, they're starting to pile up like here over the summer.
31:03
SPEAKER_01: But you know, if you know, I ain't gonna lie, if I could just tour in Texas and I could be good, I would be that would be amazing.
31:10
SPEAKER_05: You can move to LA?
31:12
SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think I'll ever move to LA, but I definitely work out there a lot and I wouldn't mind having a place out there um just to just to go and work, you know, for weeks at a time.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: And I still like going out.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: I love LA, man.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: I I love LA like a lot.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: But um I just you know I have so much going on here and like you know, I I love like the the things that we've built and stuff like that.
31:34
SPEAKER_01: But don't don't get me wrong, I get I definitely go get stir crazy, but luckily, you know, I get to travel and and see other other spots and then come home.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: What's your favorite city to DJ?
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Man, honestly, Chicago is one of the best cities to DJ at because there's a lot, you know, the what I do, you know, for like Kumbia and EDM and and shit like that, like it's kind of like house music began in Chicago, you know what I'm saying?
32:01
SPEAKER_01: And so they I don't know if it I don't know what it is about it, but the people there like really respond to music of all kinds.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: It's not like whenever they go to see you, they expect you to play this or whatever.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: They you can read the crowd and go with the crowd, and they you know you don't ever you'll you don't know where you're gonna end up, but they know about dance music out there and they know how to dance to it and know how to like be in a place where that's they're gonna play nothing but dance music, you know.
32:29
SPEAKER_05: Wow, amazing.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: And so they I think that open-mindedness of like having house as like a part of the lifestyle since you're a born, you know what I mean?
32:38
SPEAKER_01: That like it's just it's just cooler.
32:40
SPEAKER_01: So they just accept a lot more different things over there.
32:42
SPEAKER_01: I love playing in San Antonio, I love playing in Houston, I love playing in LA, um uh the you know, everywhere, man.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: I I mean I couldn't really tell you I have like a favorite spot to play, but I love uh Chicago is definitely like dope as fuck.
32:57
SPEAKER_05: So if you're so yeah, we got Gabriel.
32:59
SPEAKER_01: And then Corpus, man.
33:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean Corpus is the shit, you know.
33:02
SPEAKER_01: You have to mention I have to mention corpus, like yes, for sure.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: But like, you know, like um, hey man, sometimes a crowd don't want to see me.
33:11
SPEAKER_01: No, I'm just joking.
33:13
SPEAKER_01: No, that no, we we uh um corpus is crazy because you forget how big it is, like like you know, it's it you you like everybody thinks it's like a small town, it's a small town, it is, it's a small city, but like you know, there's times when like you get so caught up in like your own shit that like you forget that how big it is.
33:32
SPEAKER_01: Like I I played like over on the south side one time, and this dude, you know, I drop music like every couple of months or now every month, but um, he was just like, hey man, you know, he's like I haven't heard any like you haven't put out music in a long time, and I was like, damn.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: I was like, actually, I just dropped something last week.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: I didn't say that, you know what I mean?
33:53
SPEAKER_01: But I'll just like into marketing.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: But see, I'm lacking in marketing, bro.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: But but the South side, it's like a whole other world, you know what I mean?
34:01
SPEAKER_01: Like, they don't know about us people down here in downtown in the trenches, bro.
34:05
SPEAKER_05: Which uh uh which H E B do you shop at, bro?
34:07
SPEAKER_01: I go to H E B on Roberts, but you know, like uh Robert and uh uh yeah the Gucci B.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: We got the best wines and cheeses of all time.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: We'll take on the super H E B anytime, any place.
34:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but if you want good Mexican spices, you go to Port and Tarleton.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: You gotta get yeah, you gotta go to Port and Tarlton.
34:31
SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, the HEB on Robert is kind of like that middle ground of like the west side and and the east side, you know what I mean?
34:40
SPEAKER_01: So it's like all right.
34:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this is uh man.
34:43
SPEAKER_05: Wow, man, you mentioned uh so uh Anthony Diaz was saying that Chicago was the birthplace of jazz, urban blues, and uh modern jazz.
34:51
SPEAKER_05: So when you're DJing there, you do you do strictly the cumbia stuff, and then somehow you end up like in stuff that's not cumbia?
34:57
SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, but there's a lot of Mexicans there, you know what I'm saying?
35:01
SPEAKER_01: So like playing cumbia full set is like okay.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: But the last time I played there, I did go into like a lot of like house music just because I felt like it was appropriate, you know?
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right, right.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: And uh and they dug it, you know, and like and like and then I go back into cumbia or play songs that sample cumbia and with house or whatever, but like yeah, like they the responses are always cool.
35:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's awesome, man.
35:26
SPEAKER_05: So so you so you're trying to drop you drop on every month, a track every month.
35:30
SPEAKER_05: Uh are you trying to drop it more, or uh do you feel like you have to drop it every month?
35:33
SPEAKER_05: How do you approach that?
35:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, I've been sitting on so much music for so long that it's kind of like all right, these songs I have to get out like right now.
35:42
SPEAKER_01: So, like that's what I kind of did is I scheduled 12 songs to be released every month, but then I've got songs that are like my album or like my EP or like songs that I'm like really want to work and like focus on, like with the maybe a video or something like that.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: Those are songs that I also have that are scheduled throughout the year, but they like I'll I'll still drop that ID and then that'll drop, and then I'll still drop a I'll drop a single or a video or whatever, and not maybe not to the next song to that song, you know what I'm saying?
36:13
SPEAKER_01: So um that's kind of my plan for the next year is just like drop a song for every month and then in between there sprinkle some singles and maybe an album or whatever.
36:23
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I always say that I'm working on an album, but it's just kind of like working on tracks that are similar, you know what I'm saying?
36:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it's true, it's mostly just to just to get it out because you have music and not some more Yeah.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I hate sitting on stuff, you know, for so long.
36:38
SPEAKER_01: And like uh me as a beat maker, it's natural for me to like stack up on beats and then show shop them, you know.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: So like that's always been my approach is like let me make a whole bunch of beats and then I'll see if people you know can get on them.
36:51
SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: Either shop them to people to for them to use or for me to use, you know, and for me to get them to do vocals on my song or you know, collaborate on the beat or whatever, you know.
37:01
SPEAKER_05: So it's more more for correct well, I guess it's for both, like you're saying.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: It's like a library, you know what I'm saying?
37:06
SPEAKER_01: It's like a locker full of goodies.
37:08
SPEAKER_01: Open it up, and here's like 50 beats.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: What kind of beat do you look for?
37:11
SPEAKER_01: Oh, this I got this.
37:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's like, What's the two brushes?
37:16
SPEAKER_05: That's a real flat dental hygiene product.
37:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, man, that's awesome.
37:21
SPEAKER_05: So you're trying to figure out who uh pink plantain is on uh oh yeah, we This is me, bro.
37:27
SPEAKER_05: Not what I was like, wait a minute.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
37:32
SPEAKER_01: Nah, all of a sudden I like really got I was like, wait a minute, the mystery unfolds.
37:41
SPEAKER_05: It's funny, bro.
37:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, your podcast was cool, man.
37:43
SPEAKER_05: I was watching your uh I think Johnny Hotcase was the one that I watched like uh one and a half times.
37:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right on, yeah, because y'all have a couple of chemistry, yeah.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, bro.
37:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: I've known that guy forever, man.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh we go back way back, 19 probably like 96, 95.
37:59
SPEAKER_01: Um, we met in Cal Allen.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: You know, he was sort of an outcast punk rock dude, and I was kind of just like this weird hip-hop guy.
38:08
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, he was saying like he oh, you you said he was mentioning you doing graffiti, and you said you were like, I introduced it to Cal Allen.
38:17
SPEAKER_01: Well, my brother did, but yeah, yeah, definitely my family brought uh a lot of bad stuff to Cal Allen.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm just joking.
38:28
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, I definitely got busted for doing graffiti a couple of times at school and you know, through there and five points a bunch of times.
38:36
SPEAKER_01: Um, so I hadn't, you know.
38:38
SPEAKER_05: So how do you like the way the dreads are coming out?
38:41
SPEAKER_01: Uh they're good, man.
38:42
SPEAKER_01: Actually, I might cut them off tonight.
38:45
SPEAKER_01: That's funny that you ask.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:47
SPEAKER_01: Seriously, wow.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh man, you know, every summer I'm like, all right, why do I have these?
38:52
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
38:53
SPEAKER_01: So who knows what what the future holds.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, uh, I get antsy and like I I'll grow them out.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: I've had them.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: This is like my second or third time, you know.
39:00
SPEAKER_01: I'll grow them out and then like I'm like, all right, I want to cut them off.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: And then I cut them off and then like you know, I grow them out again, and it's like have them for a couple years, and it's just like alright, that's enough.
39:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I don't know.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: I just kind of want to change things up.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: I think like with this next album, I'm gonna like change up a couple of things, like a little re rebrand, you know what I mean?
39:19
SPEAKER_05: That's interesting, man.
39:20
SPEAKER_05: So easy.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: I think have my hair has a lot to do with it.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: Seriously, you become that person, you know.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, I'm the guy with dreads, like everywhere I go, you know, and it's kind of like I don't know.
39:30
SPEAKER_01: I think I'm over it.
39:32
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome, man.
39:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh, so thoughts on the corpus scene.
39:36
SPEAKER_05: I think we got did we touch on that?
39:37
SPEAKER_05: What are you talking about?
39:38
SPEAKER_01: The corpus scene is crazy, man.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: Uh that it's always had like a really nice music scene.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: They really people stick together.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, we we experienced it ourselves, you know, and like we played every venue and every show, um, and every opened up for every band and all those kinds of things.
39:58
SPEAKER_01: It's really cool, you know.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: And now that people are starting to be able to like run their own businesses online and stuff like that, like it's really growing.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: And a lot of these people have their own studios or they produce for people out of town, and like it's just great, you know what I mean?
40:13
SPEAKER_01: Like, there's so many resources online that like it's dumb not to use.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that a lot of people in corpus have caught up.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: They're these young guys are like really smart getting getting big on TikTok and all this kind of stuff, and it's just like I mean, you know, it's just a matter of time, you know.
40:28
SPEAKER_05: So, what what advice would you give emerging artists who are navigating the music industry?
40:34
SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I say this quite a bit, but I said I've said like don't get married to the beat, right?
40:39
SPEAKER_01: That means like what that means is like don't sit on shit forever, like just get it out because your next beat is gonna be way better than this beat that you just made.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
40:51
SPEAKER_01: Um, and put things out, like get that stuff out of your hard drive, and also just like don't like uh don't get like in that demo mode where it's like, oh, here's the demo, and you just like that's like it's called like demo itis or something like that, where it's like you keep hearing the demo, and then when the engineer gives you the mix and master version, you're like, I don't like this, and it's like well, dude, you listen to the demo like a hundred million times because you couldn't stop listening to your own voice.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: Crazy, you know what I mean?
41:22
SPEAKER_05: And it's so keep putting out music, that's what you're saying.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: Keep putting out music, yeah.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: Don't get married to the beat.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: Just like it's it.
41:28
SPEAKER_05: What do you think about that?
41:28
SPEAKER_05: Maya, you're over there chuckling.
41:30
unknown: That's real.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: It's real.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: I've seen Maya's hard drive.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of fucking songs in there that need to be out.
41:35
SPEAKER_05: Bro, what's going on?
41:37
SPEAKER_01: All kinds of genres, too.
41:39
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
41:40
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's amazing.
41:41
SPEAKER_01: Release the Kraken, exactly.
41:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, release the Kraken.
41:44
SPEAKER_01: J Fab.
41:45
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
41:46
SPEAKER_05: Shout out.
41:46
SPEAKER_05: So so this type of advice is yeah, shout out to uh J DJ Fab.
41:50
SPEAKER_05: Do you have do you have uh I guess a favorite DJ, or is that a bad question to ask?
41:55
SPEAKER_01: Nah, man, I love all music, I love all kinds of DJs.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: Um my I think my favorite DJ producer is Armin Van Helden.
42:04
SPEAKER_01: He's a house DJ, he's like a remix sample chop DJ that like he takes like a hip hop approach to like dance music, and I like to say that that's what I do as well, you know.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: But his songs are just sick, you know.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: He's he's uh uh well, I mean he's like a guy from New York, you know what I mean?
42:24
SPEAKER_01: Like he's from here.
42:25
SPEAKER_01: Um I think he's like uh from another country, but I think he's from I think he's a US guy.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: But he like he released a song, he released an album back in the day where there was like all hip hop songs, all hip hop chopped up samples, but then like everything he was famous for was like a house song.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
42:43
SPEAKER_05: So the advice that you're giving the artists, like it's for them like to succeed as a musician in the music industry, or like because what because most of them were trying to get signed, like we were talking earlier, right?
42:54
SPEAKER_05: Or make it or whatever.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: Is that the type I mean if you're trying to get signed and I mean the the only way to get signed and the only way to to get anywhere in the music industry is to put shit out, you know.
43:05
SPEAKER_01: No AR or no like fan is gonna hear it if it's not in on Spotify, right?
43:12
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
43:13
SPEAKER_01: So put it out, you know.
43:15
SPEAKER_01: That's the only thing I can say.
43:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and I mean if you try and if you want advice on how to get signed and all that stuff, you can subscribe to my only fans and I was joking.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: Put the link.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: I can tell you how to get a Grammy.
43:31
SPEAKER_05: So is so getting signed, is it all is it everything that you thought it would be?
43:36
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, I mean, yeah, man.
43:38
SPEAKER_01: It it it you know, my outlook on life is is very optimistic.
43:43
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
43:44
SPEAKER_01: I'm very proud of the things that I've achieved, and I'm also like uh I'm also like grateful, you know, for the little things, you know what I'm saying?
43:54
SPEAKER_01: So doing something like getting signed and being in some of those rooms and and doing those things, I'm like very grateful.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: A lot of people would have a sour taste in their mouth.
44:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure I'm just not that guy.
44:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like, okay, like, you know, my deal's over.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: I got into it expecting to get fucked.
44:10
SPEAKER_01: The fact that I didn't, and I got fucked a little bit, but you know what I'm saying?
44:14
SPEAKER_01: Like the fact that I didn't was like amazing.
44:17
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
44:18
SPEAKER_01: So at least I got to learn a bunch of shit, you know.
44:20
SPEAKER_01: But you know, I I I I'm grateful for the things that I've done.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: Being signed was like a very good, life-changing experience.
44:30
SPEAKER_01: I was like, there's things that I did that I would have never been able to do uh not being signed.
44:35
SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's amazing, dude.
44:37
SPEAKER_05: So like I had so can everybody get signed?
44:40
SPEAKER_05: Like, can everybody get signed?
44:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if I can get signed, anybody can get signed.
44:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
44:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's I'm I'm not no part of no like Illuminati or anything like that.
44:49
SPEAKER_01: Like I wasn't born into shit.
44:51
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
44:52
SPEAKER_05: Like we have some speculators here.
44:57
SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know what I mean?
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Like I got signed.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Like I what the way it happened was we put a song out.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: I I I made a beat right here, like and there was a table right here, and I made this beat on my MPC.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: It was called Kelepasa.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: It was the first time I ever made a house song, and it was a chopped-up sample on the MPC.
45:16
SPEAKER_01: I made a house beat on the MPC, and then I I from there I put it into my computer and fucked with it or whatever.
45:24
SPEAKER_01: But like from the from the time that it was that I made it to the time that it was out was probably you know 20 days, you know what I mean?
45:33
SPEAKER_01: And so it came out, and then me and my like it started getting traction because it was a good song, and I got like on a compilation or whatever, but then we made a video to it, and the video like blew up on YouTube.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: This is like early YouTube, like I don't even think Spotify was around.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't even know, like, but this is in like 2002 like Wild West days of YouTube, yeah, yeah.
45:54
SPEAKER_01: And so it went, it started going like that morning.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: My phone was like blowing up, my emails, everything was just like, yo, this song is going crazy.
46:01
SPEAKER_01: And so then I got hooked, I got signed by this guy, uh um Daniel Haxman out in Germany, he had like a label that was putting out electronic music, and we redid the sample that that was on there, and then re-released it with a bunch of remixes and stuff like that.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: And um and uh and he and we put it out, you know what I'm saying?
46:26
SPEAKER_01: And then it blew up like and fucking like two weeks later, Universal calls, and they're looking to sign me and want to do all this shit, and so I was like, let's do it.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: And so then we re-released it again on Universal, and it and you know it it that it really took off.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: That that song was like a career-changing song for me.
46:43
SPEAKER_05: Were you making songs like that before that one?
46:45
SPEAKER_01: That was the first house song that I had ever really made.
46:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I tried making stuff, but not not nothing like that.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: And that was the first one I always I had put out for sure.
46:52
SPEAKER_05: With uh like the accordion sample, yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:56
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, I actually got that master back.
47:00
SPEAKER_01: That's the only one of those from the songs that I've with Universal.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: That's the only one that I own the master for.
47:06
SPEAKER_05: So two months later, after that, oh after that, all that you got signed to Universal.
47:10
SPEAKER_01: Probably about yeah, two or three months.
47:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was very quick, like so fast.
47:14
SPEAKER_05: That's blessing.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: And then going through all that, you know, was just like it was just wild.
47:19
SPEAKER_01: I got to it was a it was a brands deal, so like it was a it was a label based around a brand that Pepsi was like starting, a label.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: So they got me all these shows with different artists and at art galleries and at fucking festivals and all kinds of things that they were just trying to get the music out, you know what I mean, and and that's the way you do it is by playing at all these places, and uh and it worked.
47:43
SPEAKER_05: When you say right place at the right time, yeah.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean it was a right place.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: I put out the song and it and it didn't live in my hard drive.
47:49
SPEAKER_01: If I wouldn't if I would have put out that song two months later, like who knows what it happened, you know what I mean?
47:54
SPEAKER_01: Or if I would be sitting on it right now, still, you know what I'm saying?
47:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
47:59
SPEAKER_01: I've still got songs in the hard drive from back then.
48:03
SPEAKER_05: That's amazing, dude.
48:05
SPEAKER_05: That's so amazing.
48:06
SPEAKER_05: Wow, and it's so ever since that that type of music, that type of with having the sample on there, you just kept on making more, making more money off of that, off of that style.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: I even partnered with a label that has a bunch of samples that I've sampled before, and we just I'm able to just go through all their stuff and just kind of sample whatever I want.
48:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so so you still are you still uh a vinyl junkie?
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, I just picked up a whole giant, like I just got like 10,000 records.
48:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I literally just got 10,000 records like on Sunday.
48:38
SPEAKER_04: Are you serious?
48:39
SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, we're sorting through them right now, but there's a there's some crazy stuff in there, all these um like bootleg like remixes and stuff like that that nobody's ever like will that they'll never see the light of day because they're such bootleg like with other people's music on them and stuff like that, that they're like really cool.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: So we got a lot of them.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to DJ Dragon, man, RIP.
49:01
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow, so it was uh his collection before.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: It was his collection, and we had you know, originally we had talked about me getting it when he was alive because he knew that I collected records and he knew how how I take care of him and all that stuff.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so he was always like, yo, just come get him.
49:16
SPEAKER_01: He would send me videos of his of his garage and shit like that.
49:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and he was like, Come get him, man, come get him.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: And and when he passed, I didn't dude, he passed a few years ago.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: I didn't want to put no pressure on his family or nothing like that.
49:29
SPEAKER_01: So I just kind of left it alone, you know.
49:31
SPEAKER_01: And his wife hit me up and she was like, Hey, are you interested in taking the records?
49:34
SPEAKER_01: And I was all, yeah.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: I didn't even mention the fact that he that he had he must have been telling her like a like something, right?
49:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, yo, you need to put it in.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
49:45
SPEAKER_01: But um, I'm sure she kept um I'm sure she she kept a couple of sets and I mean she kept this turntables and he won some gold turntables one time that I was there.
49:56
SPEAKER_01: And uh so she's you know, I'm sure she kept some mementos and really good ones.
50:01
SPEAKER_05: Right on.
50:01
SPEAKER_05: What kind so do you know what kind you're gonna be playing there in the in the bar?
50:05
SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, you know, it's gonna be a chill spot.
50:07
SPEAKER_01: So definitely like some lo-fi, some like hip hop uh remixes and like old school stuff.
50:14
SPEAKER_01: Um you know, just music on vinyl.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: I don't really have like I'm not gonna say that we're gonna just play jazz there or none of that shit.
50:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's a listening bar.
50:24
SPEAKER_05: Read the crowd.
50:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, read the crowd.
50:25
SPEAKER_01: If anybody wants to hear hip hop, well, dude, let's play some hip hop, you know.
50:28
SPEAKER_01: Or if the DJ that I brought down that weekend is gonna play hip hop, well then, dude, like that's what he's gonna be there for, and the crowd needs to expect it, you know.
50:36
SPEAKER_02: That's what's uh man.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: But I don't and I also don't want it to be like a pretentious thing where it's like all these guys are pretentious, yeah, pretentious, just like like kind of like like snooty, yeah, yeah, like kind of like stuck up.
50:50
SPEAKER_01: We just want it to be like an open door, just the way the bodega is, you know what I mean?
50:53
SPEAKER_01: Like anybody can come in here, you know, even if you're a nerd, especially if you're a nerd, yeah, yeah.
51:01
SPEAKER_05: So we hear you're a big nerd on Star Wars.
51:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, I'm definitely a Star Wars nerd.
51:07
SPEAKER_05: Um you had the Sombrero Galaxy.
51:12
SPEAKER_01: I had a sombrer, I had a whole whole album basically Cholo Mandalorian.
51:16
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, man, I love Star Wars.
51:18
SPEAKER_01: Me and my wife, like my wife, like I don't know if she likes it more than I do now.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: Uh but we've we've gone to Disney multiple times to go see uh to go to like um Batu, the planet.
51:31
SPEAKER_05: Oh, that's there in Disney planet.
51:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
51:33
SPEAKER_01: Batuu East and Batuu West.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Oh shit, that's nice.
51:37
SPEAKER_01: But um, but you know, I hope to experience more of it.
51:40
SPEAKER_01: Star Wars is crazy, it's kind of like a cult, you know what I mean?
51:43
SPEAKER_01: Like uh, whenever I see people, I have like a Mandalorian sticker on my on my truck, yeah, and it's like black, and it's like a black sticker.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: Um, so it's pretty funny.
51:52
SPEAKER_04: Like when people see it, they're like, I'm all like, okay.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: I'll run it.
52:01
SPEAKER_01: Tibbs hat.
52:01
SPEAKER_01: It's a this is definitely the culture.
52:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm cool.
52:06
SPEAKER_01: Finally, somewhere, someone likes me.
52:09
SPEAKER_04: Oh man, that's awesome.
52:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no.
52:11
SPEAKER_04: Have you always been into it or yeah, man?
52:13
SPEAKER_01: Ever since I was a kid, I always loved sci-fi, I've always loved horror movies and and um cartoons, you know what I'm saying?
52:21
SPEAKER_01: Like I've just it's just cool, you know.
52:23
SPEAKER_01: And I like Star Wars a lot.
52:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I never really got into Star Trek too much.
52:28
SPEAKER_01: I like Star Wars because it was kind of funny, you know what I'm saying?
52:32
SPEAKER_01: And some humor added.
52:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, it was kind of funny, and like Star Trek to me was a little too serious, and uh Dune was like way too serious, you know what I'm saying?
52:42
SPEAKER_02: But it's so fire, yeah.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: It's so fire, but the new dude, yeah.
52:47
SPEAKER_01: But I I I mean I've re-watched everything on Star Wars a hundred times.
52:52
SPEAKER_01: So Dune, I've only seen it once.
52:55
SPEAKER_01: Uh I'm definitely a rebel.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:58
SPEAKER_01: Rebel all day.
53:00
SPEAKER_05: All day, yeah.
53:01
SPEAKER_05: All day.
53:01
SPEAKER_05: So a rebel, okay, okay.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: Also, I'm either I I lean towards rebel, but I'm definitely uh I I pledge my allegiance to no one.
53:11
SPEAKER_05: Oh wow.
53:14
SPEAKER_05: So so that's like in a bit like uh not I guess neutral.
53:17
SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, that's yeah, I'm neutral, like you know, yeah, like neutral, not not the so what is it?
53:21
SPEAKER_05: I don't really I don't really follow it that much.
53:23
SPEAKER_05: So Jedi and Jedi is and Sith, is that is that what we're talking about?
53:27
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's like light, dark stuff.
53:29
SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay, okay.
53:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
53:30
SPEAKER_01: Also, like rebels and republic are like, you know, it's like the people versus the government, you know what I mean and so the re okay, so fighting against the government or the empire that's like trying to take over overthrow in the name of the government, saying that it's all good, like we're just trying to make everything good, but if you don't do what we say, we're gonna kill you.
53:54
SPEAKER_01: No, you know what I mean, and that's why everything's fucked.
53:59
SPEAKER_01: So similar to what's going on in real life.
54:01
SPEAKER_05: Oh, I know, dude.
54:02
SPEAKER_05: Wow.
54:03
SPEAKER_05: I wonder if he I wonder if he uh the actual writer had had that in mind.
54:07
SPEAKER_05: Yes, you think so?
54:10
SPEAKER_01: Every all those guys are big, like political, you know what I mean?
54:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
54:15
SPEAKER_01: It's it it it's uh it's foreshadowing, you know what I'm saying?
54:19
SPEAKER_05: So do you get into that?
54:20
SPEAKER_05: D what I gotta bring balance to the force, man.
54:23
SPEAKER_01: That's what I do.
54:24
SPEAKER_05: Yes, what's up, bro?
54:26
SPEAKER_05: Anthony Diaz, bro.
54:27
SPEAKER_05: He always he's always on here, he's got a podcast.
54:29
SPEAKER_05: Nice uh 50 states of terror.
54:31
SPEAKER_05: He talks about like uh uh animals or like like the chupacabra in Texas, but he does it like in all different 50 states, right on.
54:40
SPEAKER_05: So he finds one, so he's definitely nerds out in here as well.
54:43
SPEAKER_01: Right on, appreciate that.
54:45
SPEAKER_05: Alright, bro, thanks a lot.
54:47
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, man, that's awesome, dude.
54:48
SPEAKER_05: So Star Wars, you're in the Star Wars, yeah.
54:51
SPEAKER_05: So and um you mentioned that you just recently started vacationing, bro.
54:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've never since okay, so this is kind of a sad story.
55:00
SPEAKER_01: But I've never gone on vacation before ever in my life.
55:04
SPEAKER_01: And um I went to Disney World uh when I when my when my when my dad had his accident, we moved to Miami for like a couple of years to like he went to like a spinal cord hospital over there.
55:16
SPEAKER_01: And when we went over there, we went to Disney World like on the move over there, and that was like in like 88 or something, 89.
55:25
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: And like I've never just never went on vacation.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: I've traveled everywhere, I've gone fucking everywhere, and I've like done all kinds of crazy shit, but I've never really chilled in a spot like for nothing, you know.
55:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and to us, like going on vacation was like, you know, my dad was a quadriplegic, so we didn't really do vacations and stuff like that when I was a kid, but we would just you know go to the ranch or go relax, or they would take us to you know, no not very far, San Antonio, Houston, you know, whatever.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but now you know, I was like, let's go, let's start doing stuff.
55:58
SPEAKER_01: Uh and you know, I had a dog for a long time that was like 15.
56:01
SPEAKER_01: And you know, when you're a dog person and you get into those last couple of years of the dog's life, like you're just like, I'm not gonna go anywhere.
56:08
SPEAKER_01: I just want to be at home with a dog, you know.
56:10
SPEAKER_01: And so, like, that was basically was our last year was like just like taking care of our dog.
56:15
SPEAKER_01: And then finally, when she passed away, like the next week we bought a ticket to Disney.
56:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we're like, We're going to Star Wars, going, bro.
56:22
SPEAKER_05: That's amazing, you know what I mean?
56:24
SPEAKER_01: And so, um, and and it was just kind of like, you know, kind of when my when my mom died, my my dad died.
56:29
SPEAKER_01: When when people die in your life, you kind of like realize like all these things that you should be doing, you know what I mean?
56:35
SPEAKER_01: And so I was it was just like, you know what?
56:37
SPEAKER_01: Like I have a lot of stuff to going on at home, but like I need like three days to like just be like just chill and not do nothing.
56:44
SPEAKER_01: And it's important.
56:45
SPEAKER_01: I didn't know how important that was until I until I did it.
56:49
SPEAKER_01: And then also just like taking breaks is like very important.
56:52
SPEAKER_01: I learned this from Justin Ganan and and John, uh, the guys that built uh OK Hi-Fi.
56:59
SPEAKER_01: They're they're amazing artists and amazing designers, but they every every night um they would, you know, like when we were working on hi-fi, they were busy all day.
57:09
SPEAKER_01: I'd hear them in the morning, like uh getting in there cutting and all this kind of stuff and doing all these things.
57:14
SPEAKER_01: And then at night, they would clean everything up and then they would sit there and have a beer for like two or three hours.
57:20
SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Don't y'all want to go home?
57:22
SPEAKER_01: Or like, don't y'all, y'all are here, like, aren't y'all getting to work or something?
57:26
SPEAKER_01: And they're like, and it was like, dude, they were working, like they would sit there and and we would talk about okay, well, tomorrow, you know, we're gonna make this thing that's like blah blah.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: And everybody he he was using the space as he was building it and and getting comfort, like it's so comfortable in there right now.
57:43
SPEAKER_01: Like, if you go in there, it's like, man, this place feels like it's been here for like a long time.
57:47
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
57:48
SPEAKER_01: But it's because those dudes have been to a lot of places and they've done a lot of things, and they went in there, and while they were building it, they took those important breaks and they like sat there and they were like, dude, this is you know, and he and we would dude like come up with things working while you're while you're while you're taking a break, you know.
58:05
SPEAKER_01: But like taking those breaks is like very important.
58:08
SPEAKER_01: That's something that I had never really done.
58:10
SPEAKER_01: Is like I've lived here, I live upstairs, and my studio is downstairs, so every single day it's just like I'm downstairs, so like hustling all the time, all the time, never turning it off, you know what I mean.
58:20
SPEAKER_01: That's one that's one bad thing about living down here above the studio is like you never really get to turn it off.
58:25
SPEAKER_01: It's always like I'm always thinking about the next beat or whatever, you know.
58:29
SPEAKER_01: And so that's like important, that was an important thing that I learned from them.
58:32
SPEAKER_01: Is it's like you gotta take breaks, you know what I mean?
58:35
SPEAKER_01: And so take a break.
58:36
SPEAKER_01: And I I took a break last year from November or from uh like yeah, like I think after October was like my last gig, and then I just said, fuck it, I'm not gonna play anymore until March.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: And so we took a long break, went on Disney World, Disneyland.
58:53
SPEAKER_05: How did it work for you?
58:54
SPEAKER_05: How did it work for you?
58:55
SPEAKER_01: It went pretty good.
58:56
SPEAKER_01: I I like it.
58:57
SPEAKER_01: I I I gotta I I will say though that I have like mad FOMO, like I always want to like do stuff and like you know, but um that's part of my discipline is like not doing things that I want to do.
59:09
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
59:10
SPEAKER_01: Like going out and like you know what I mean, like doing like going out, especially here in Corpus.
59:14
SPEAKER_01: Like I don't go, I never go anywhere.
59:16
SPEAKER_01: Like I never go, I go out every once in a while, like have a drink or whatever, but I I want to do it a lot more, but I think that like I just I don't know, I just don't do it.
59:26
SPEAKER_01: And like I s I like to just chill, you know what I mean?
59:30
SPEAKER_05: Like a homebody.
59:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm a very, very unlike the homeest homeboy there is.
59:35
SPEAKER_05: Well, it's funny because you you perform in front of a lot of people, you would think that you would you wouldn't be that way, you know.
59:40
SPEAKER_01: I I have very awkward and so social anxiety.
59:45
SPEAKER_01: Um not you know, not by choice, but it's just like either I'm either on or I'm totally off.
59:52
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
59:52
SPEAKER_01: There's like no in-between.
59:55
SPEAKER_01: When it hits, it hits.
59:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right on.
59:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it makes me think uh that in that podcast with Johnny Hotcakes that you used to go to Sound Warehouse and be there hours at a time and just read.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love doing things by myself.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: Even now, I go to eat all by myself all the time.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm always like go to Barnes and Noble and read now.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, my wife works till nighttime, so and my schedule is like pretty much all day, but like I try to work like all the way until then, and if she's gonna be busy or she's not home yet, I'll like find some time to like do something else.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go read or whatever.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_01: It's amazing, dude.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_01: Just like, but it's not like you know, I'm not like a bookworm or anything either.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, right.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_01: I like to learn a lot of stuff.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_05: No, it's almost like you gotta keep your mind up.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and your intellectual level needs to stay up.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, man.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_01: I'm also getting old.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't want my brain to like get all mushy, you know.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_05: Right on, man.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_05: Man, Dusty, this has been an awesome interview, man.
1:00:52
SPEAKER_05: Appreciate you coming on.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's been fun.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: It was a lot deeper than I thought it was gonna be.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_01: Nah, nah.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_01: I thought we were gonna be here, like, you know, talking to talking shit, getting some beers, partying.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_01: So, what do you think about this?
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: I like it.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_01: This is very good.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_01: I think it's important to cover a lot of these things, you know what I'm saying?
1:01:08
SPEAKER_01: Like, um it's it's one of those things that like it's like really therapeutic to talk about like things that you go through and stuff like that, especially like when you're when you say it out loud, it's like not as big of a deal in your head as it is in your head, you know, and like I'm always like beating myself up in my head because when you talk about it, it's kind of like it's not such a bad idea, you know.
1:01:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so yeah, that sorry man, I I say goodbye like several people say All right, we're out of your audience, so you know what happened to Like I know because I lived in like Tulsa for like a year, I had went to school over there and lived out of town.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_05: And when I do stu when I do stuff that I do here over there, like just simple stuff like cleaning or hustling or whatever, people are like more appreciative of it, as opposed to like if I'm here they're like eh, whatever.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
1:01:55
SPEAKER_05: Do you get that?
1:01:56
SPEAKER_01: Well, I think it's all about who the people you put yourself around, you know what I mean?
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: And I've definitely felt and I've seen other peers like they're from here, and I don't they don't get the kind of love they get out of town.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_01: But the thing is that you only are out of town for one day, you know what I'm saying?
1:02:16
SPEAKER_01: So if you lived there, you would feel that same way.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_01: If I move to LA and I I kill, I keep telling everybody, oh man, everybody loves me in LA so much, it's so awesome.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's not like how it is back home.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_01: Six months into being there, I'm gonna be like go back home, right?
1:02:30
SPEAKER_01: I need to go back home.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_01: And then when you go home, you're like, everybody loves you, and you're like, oh, it's so awesome.
1:02:36
SPEAKER_01: I need to go back to uh like when you go back to LA, you're like, oh man, I let everybody loved me at home so much.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's just it's the grass is greener everywhere.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: Uh I gotcha.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: So how you look at it depend is is uh it's just all yeah, I and it's whatever situation you're in.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_01: But but yes, man, you know, I've I've definitely felt like that before.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_01: You know, that goes back to like how A B was saying, you know, it's his backyard.
1:03:00
SPEAKER_01: I mean, dude, I felt I feel that, you know, like those guys are pretty big time, you know what I'm saying?
1:03:06
SPEAKER_01: And for them, like the a lot of people didn't, especially back in the day, they definitely weren't fucking with those guys, like some of the his bandmates, you know what I mean?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_01: They're definitely they fuck with A B, but their bandmates was like, you know, some of those guys were getting like fights and all kinds of shit.
1:03:20
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that they weren't starting shit either, because I know those guys personally, they start a lot of shit, but you know what I mean?
1:03:26
SPEAKER_01: It's just like you know, you like it, you know, one bad thing that they say about you and it's over, you know, especially in a town like Corpus.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
1:03:34
SPEAKER_01: So but they had a they had you know, those guys had a good run.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_01: I've had a good run.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_01: Everybody's I think that like people have supported me in this town for whatever the fuck I want to do, and it's always something weird, and it's always well like recepted, and I'm like very grateful of that.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_05: Wow, that's amazing, dude.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_05: Congrats, man.
1:03:54
SPEAKER_05: That's awesome, man.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_05: Uh appreciate you, Anthony Diaz.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_05: Best show, best podcast.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_05: Thanks a lot, bro.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_05: Appreciate that.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_05: Stay tuned for the next few, man.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_05: Well, you got anything else that you want to share, Dust?
1:04:05
SPEAKER_01: Man, that's it, dude.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_01: I've got you know the bar coming next week.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, everybody will come by and check it out and um yeah, be on the lookout for new music.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, hell yeah, bro.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_05: So that's what's in the future, man.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_05: Dust, thanks for coming on, man.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_05: Appreciate man.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_05: Thanks for coming on, bro.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_05: Stay tuned, you guys, for the next uh few episodes.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_05: Uh, I don't really know what I got lined up, but I got some people coming on.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_05: Uh, shout out to Maya back there for making this all look nice and doing the camera switching and all kinds of stuff.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_05: See you guys next time.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_05: Have a good one.