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Mac & Bone Show - Terrence Oglesby Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I'm Teraris Ogilsby from the pre and post game shows
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  Speaker 1: on the Hornets TV network. On Fandal, he joins us
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  Speaker 1: here on the Mac and Bone show, t what do
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  Speaker 1: you think of the news of this trade?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I'm just as shocked as you are.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here. I love nas Reed. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: one of the most underappreciated players in the NBA. And
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  Speaker 3: that is an area where the Hornets need to get bigger.
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  Speaker 3: You see the need for physicality and the play in
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  Speaker 3: tournament this year. They need to get a little bit bigger.
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  Speaker 3: They need to get a little bit more physical. Nas
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  Speaker 3: Reed certainly fits that mold. And it also puts a
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  Speaker 3: notice on like how much the Hornets appreciate Kobe White. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it also says how much faith they have in
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  Speaker 3: Christian Anderson. And guys, I saw Christian Anderson before he
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  Speaker 3: was at Texas Tech, playing with the U nineteen World
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  Speaker 3: Cup team in Switzerland, and he is really, really stinking good.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just he is on the smaller side. But really,
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  Speaker 3: what this does to me is it says how much
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  Speaker 3: the Hornets love Kobe White, and it looks like they're
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  Speaker 3: going to hitch their wagon to the Kobe White Continent
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  Speaker 3: and Brandon Miller Express because it doesn't have the flash
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  Speaker 3: that LaMelo brings. But there's a whole lot of substance
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  Speaker 3: there and you get bigger and more physical with nas
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  Speaker 3: read I like the pick swaps. Here's I'm scared. I'll
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  Speaker 3: be honest with you, gentlemen. After my Mark Williams debacle,
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  Speaker 3: I'm scared to death to say anything without absolutely going
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  Speaker 3: through first. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.
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  Speaker 3: With Lamello and his injury history and how narrow he
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  Speaker 3: has built, is this a cell high situation? Yeah, he
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  Speaker 3: played seventy two games. This is a cell high situation
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  Speaker 3: because he played extraordinary basketball this year. Did they think, well,
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  Speaker 3: this is as good as it gets for LaMelo? That's
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  Speaker 3: what my curiosity is. I have talked to nobody in
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  Speaker 3: the front office there in Charlotte.
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  Speaker 2: This is me speculating the same way you guys are. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Is it a little weird to you on the Minnesota
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  Speaker 4: front too? They just signed a sumu and now they
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  Speaker 4: go get Is that kind of a weird fit for Mellow?
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  Speaker 4: Does it make sense for him?
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  Speaker 3: The whole on their side of the ordeal, like they
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  Speaker 3: just shipped out Julius Randall. They signed assuming to a
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  Speaker 3: big year, a big, big deal, and then it's Lamello
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  Speaker 3: and Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is better dominating the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Lamello is better dominating the ball. Uh, it's a cure.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's a curious ordeal. How do they manage that?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how that's going to go. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: sitting here, I'm looking at all this stuff. Guys without
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  Speaker 3: without my rosters in front, you go ahead together. It's
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  Speaker 3: that's that's two ball dominant guys on their end and
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  Speaker 3: assumed it's kind of in the same mold. So curious
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  Speaker 3: how that works.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? Okay, So here's been our stance
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  Speaker 1: all day, and we've had all day. Right, the rumors
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  Speaker 1: started breaking last night, and credit to Sham's man, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of us were doubting, really this is something like
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  Speaker 1: this is going to happen this quickly, and he said
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  Speaker 1: it last night, could happen twenty four to forty eight hours.
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  Speaker 1: And here we go. But you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: our stance on it had been too that. Hey, this
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  Speaker 1: team is after so many frustrating years and in the
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  Speaker 1: injury plague years. Man, they really put it together, and
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like the new health staff kind of found
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  Speaker 1: a way along with the you know brass there, found
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  Speaker 1: a way to keep LaMelo healthy. LaMelo seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: you know, coachable, right, It seemed like they were getting
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  Speaker 1: more defense out of them, and it just we finally
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  Speaker 1: had momentum. So it's hard for a Hornets fan to
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  Speaker 1: want to break that up, Like, how do you feel
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  Speaker 1: about doing this when it feels like we have momentum?
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  Speaker 3: You know, the only thing I can come back to.
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  Speaker 3: And again, I want to be absolutely clear that this
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  Speaker 3: is me speculating. Yes, this is a cell high situation
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  Speaker 3: with a mammoth contract with what LaMelo had, and it
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  Speaker 3: gives you room to resign Kobe for what he wants.
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  Speaker 3: It gives you room to operate a little bit thinking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Minnesota is not going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: those first shroud pick swaps are going to be big,
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  Speaker 3: because I think the Hornets have faith that they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be really tough. I really do. And you look
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  Speaker 3: at the collective collective size, I think you know LaMelo
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  Speaker 3: was he's narrowly built. He's tall, but he's narrowly built.
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  Speaker 3: That type of frame. Typically it sends the message of well,
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  Speaker 3: he could get hurt a little bit more. Guys, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just as shocked as you are trying to figure this out.
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  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I do think. I do
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  Speaker 3: think if you're Charlotte and you're looking to get out
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  Speaker 3: of the LaMelo business, which would make sense if you're
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  Speaker 3: trying to build something sustainable in the long term and
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  Speaker 3: not worry about injury. Because he has shown the propensity
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  Speaker 3: to get hurt. This is a cell high situation. If
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  Speaker 3: you're the Hornet, what.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think of the Honests draft pick? Just to
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  Speaker 4: go a different direction momentarily, what do you think of Honess?
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  Speaker 2: Want me to keep this?
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  Speaker 3: You guys want me to keep this ten seconds or less? No,
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  Speaker 3: I love honest einboch he was the second best big
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  Speaker 3: man at you nineteen Worlds in Switzerland. He goes up
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  Speaker 3: to Washington and he gets a forgot about a little
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  Speaker 3: bit because the Pacific Northwestern College Basketball. Do they like it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Do they love it? I would say no. I will
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  Speaker 3: say this. I've heard comparisons to Steven Adams. He's a
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  Speaker 3: better passer than that. I don't think he's quite as
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  Speaker 3: big as Steven Adams, but he really rebounds, he's tough,
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  Speaker 3: he's got a lot of skill. So is he an
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  Speaker 3: absolute upgrade at the five spot? They've drafted really well.
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  Speaker 3: I do think he's better offensively than Ryan Kulkbrenner, and
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  Speaker 3: he's put together, wider than Kaulkbrenner. He's put together. He's
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  Speaker 3: a lot heavier than Musa Diabat. I think he's a
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  Speaker 3: starting quality big man. But guys, there's part of me
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  Speaker 3: that thinks the Hornets aren't finished with this whole ordeal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of taking that too. Like, that's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of picks they've collect. They already had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of picks. Now they've got they've got a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Now you bring in like Bridges as could go right now,
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  Speaker 1: because you brought in nas Reed, he's your starting four,
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  Speaker 1: drafted in Steinbacher Bridges in another trade at some point.
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  Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, I hope there's more
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  Speaker 1: to come, to be honest with you, all right, t O,
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk more about Anderson, because all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: now yesterday, at this time I was hoping we re
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  Speaker 1: signed Kobe, we have LaMelo, and Anderson can ease into
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  Speaker 1: things right as kind of the third ball handler. Now,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, this very well might show. Hey, we
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  Speaker 1: love the way our offense played when Kobe was on
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  Speaker 1: the court. We can save money and he's our one.
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  Speaker 1: We drafted Anderson. They were probably thinking he's ready to
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  Speaker 1: be our two on the offensive end. I love Anderson.
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  Speaker 1: The shooting's ridiculous, the pick and roll, the savviness of
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  Speaker 1: the way he runs a pick and roll is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: But you mentioned the size, like is he a target
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  Speaker 1: on defense? Like, what do you think about the pros
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  Speaker 1: and cons of Christian Anderson?
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  Speaker 3: He's much better than kJ Simpsons. Okay, we got that ut,
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  Speaker 3: and so that's good news. You know, he played on
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  Speaker 3: the German national team with Hannes Steinbach, so there's some
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  Speaker 3: connection there and they were really good and pick and
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  Speaker 3: roll together. The other portion of that is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he is six y two, but he's got six six
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  Speaker 3: six seven wings fans, so he's a little bit longer
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  Speaker 3: than giving credit for. He's had some big rebounding moments
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  Speaker 3: during the course of the season last year. He competes
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  Speaker 3: at a really high level and he could very well
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  Speaker 3: be the best shooter in this year's draft. So that's
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  Speaker 3: kind of where I'm at with him. I've always been
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  Speaker 3: a big fan of his game. There's a certain toughness
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  Speaker 3: about him. He's played with the senior national teams, and
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  Speaker 3: that Germany.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't just do that, so you have to have some
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  Speaker 2: game about you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I think he could come in and play minutes
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  Speaker 3: right away. And I don't think they're going to be
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  Speaker 3: like figure it out minutes. They're going to be come
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  Speaker 3: in and bust a couple shots minutes. So, like I said, though,
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  Speaker 3: do I have faith he could play immediately?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: This is a strong draft class. What was he picked
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  Speaker 3: at eighteen? Like you, there's quality players at eighteen. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I think he's a guy that can come in and
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  Speaker 3: play minutes immediately and he going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: knock down shots for you quickly.
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  Speaker 4: We're talking to Terrence oglesby FanDuel Sports Network here on
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  Speaker 4: the Macking Bone Show. Looking up right now, it's surreal
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  Speaker 4: all the TVs right now t O are all about
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  Speaker 4: the Hornets trading mellow ball to the Timberwolves. We came
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  Speaker 4: in to day Terrence thinking, yeah, this will be a
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  Speaker 4: pretty easy show. As of last night, this will be
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  Speaker 4: an easy show. No Hornets. Second rounders. Our biggest concern
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  Speaker 4: this morning was why did Henry Vasar drop solo in
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  Speaker 4: the draft for.
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  Speaker 1: The Heels and now look at us? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: this is crazy. I appreciate you reacting on the fly.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody said Teo's the designator reactor to trades in town.
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  Speaker 1: Remember Mark to even made that same joke, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Thee.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh shoot, hey, I would bone brought
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  Speaker 1: up the Vassar situation. And also Isaiah Evans in I
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  Speaker 1: just want to ask you that, because you're at college
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  Speaker 1: basketball nut and you cover it so much as well
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  Speaker 1: field A sixty eight ESPN and elsewhere, what do you
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  Speaker 1: think when you see in the NIOA where Isaiah Evans,
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  Speaker 1: whether at Duke or somewhere else, they saw Carolina somewhere else.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like Carolina he could have got five million
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  Speaker 1: plus to play. It's just maybe this is the maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm showing my age and I feel like I want
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  Speaker 1: to act like their dads. But it kills me that
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  Speaker 1: some of these guys they take the risk, will we
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  Speaker 1: get a first round guaranteed deal? And then they don't?
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  Speaker 1: Why not stay in school, make millions and keep working
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  Speaker 1: on your game? Does it hit you the same way
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  Speaker 1: or no.
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  Speaker 3: As a guy who declared early. Yeah, it hurts me
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  Speaker 3: for them even more because you know, you get bad advice,
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  Speaker 3: and they happened to me. You know, I left after
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  Speaker 3: my sophomore season thinking I'd go over to Europe and
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  Speaker 3: then come back, and I ended up going over there
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  Speaker 3: and getting lost. And the chance for development is fine
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  Speaker 3: over there, but it wasn't what it could have been
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  Speaker 3: in college. So I say all that to say this,
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  Speaker 3: now that they have money, now that they are making
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  Speaker 3: extraordinary amounts of money, five million dollars, I think Pick
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  Speaker 3: is like number sixteen in order to like, if you
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  Speaker 3: have to beat five million dollars, you have to go
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  Speaker 3: in the top sixteen or something like that. Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: not sure what theysar is thinking you can get one
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  Speaker 3: track minded, which is what I did.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I have to make it. I have
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  Speaker 2: to go. I have to go.
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  Speaker 3: But it comes to point where somebody has to pull
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  Speaker 3: you back and be like, hey man, college life isn't
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  Speaker 3: that bad. It's not like your classes are all that hard. Like,
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  Speaker 3: go go back to school, collect checks, and then we'll
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  Speaker 3: see how it all works.
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  Speaker 1: Dan, all right, and that's that's good. Yeah, I forgot
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  Speaker 1: all about your situation. That was a pretty good honest
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  Speaker 1: answer there.
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  Speaker 4: And you're saying Ryan Windhors loves the trade on get
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  Speaker 4: up right now hot for the Hornets?
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  Speaker 3: Really yeah, yeah, Like I said to me, I just
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  Speaker 3: want to make sure the trade goes through. But it's
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  Speaker 3: to me, I love the trade because it's a so
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  Speaker 3: high situation. You get draft picks involved, and I think
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  Speaker 3: nas read Is.
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  Speaker 2: I have a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Respect for what he does and he deserves to be
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  Speaker 3: a starter.
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  Speaker 1: He's a winning player, man, and we have missed that
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  Speaker 1: profile right of the stretch four miles, very inconsistent shooting
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  Speaker 1: it from outside. He's a true four size wise. All right, brother, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: we appreciate you. We did not have a crystal ball
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  Speaker 1: and know that you would be on here live reacting
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  Speaker 1: to the trade. You did an amazing job of it,
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  Speaker 1: my friend, have a great summer and thanks for coming on.
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  Speaker 2: Man, appreciate you absolutely. Thante guys,