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- 0:00I'm recording I am just getting my authenticator out so I can log into
- 0:04something don't get that out welcome to multiple
- 0:10nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
- 0:14Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
- 0:20Things
- 0:27nerdy um I just want to check something I've get every now and again I forget
- 0:30that I subscribe to Humble Bundle and I get three games every month
- 0:35oh that forget about it yeah you should probably check that yeah they take money
- 0:41from you a all the time you don't do it for the games you just do it to support you're
- 0:48gonna buy those games anyway they probably there a lot of games I already
- 0:53own they're all on Steam and stuff I'm never gonna buy them what I mean so
- 0:58they're just like amassing in your yeah library on there unplayed
- 1:04unplayed oh straight God last time I bought Humble Bundle it contained Super
- 1:08Meat Boy if that puts anything into perspective of how long ago it was I buy
- 1:13the book bundles like every now and then like fairly frequently every of the
- 1:18Galaxy yeah oh okay that was a good game didn't finish it but it was good it was
- 1:22a good game I think the reason why G Galaxy didn't do well is because it came
- 1:26out sort of roughly around the same time as that Marvel game came out The
- 1:30Avengers one oh that live service one the [ __ ] one
- 1:34yeah well not that we played it let's not let none of us play it I did cuz I
- 1:39heard it was [ __ ] oh you did play it right they told us it was [ __ ] yeah it
- 1:43was on Xbox Dan of course he played it it was an okay game until you got to the
- 1:48end of the story and then it became the life service part of it which is just
- 1:53replay the same stuff over and over and over again with our story right I don't
- 1:58get life servers I don't why they trying it somebody must be playing them yeah
- 2:04well the problem is with the life service model is yes people do play them but they play
- 2:11one life service model they don't play multiple and there's only lure him away
- 2:17small as if nothing's going to happen it's probably a large Market but there
- 2:21there's only particular Market that likes that game and they're not going to
- 2:24be buying 20 different ones yeah it's like when you speak of things
- 2:30on Xbox though that aren't going to be on Xbox is um the Silent Hill 2 remake
- 2:36at least not for the first year I saw that disappointing not for you because you've
- 2:42got a PlayStation Matt right yeah but I don't play games on it it's at this
- 2:47point like yeah until you said that I forgot I
- 2:53had it yeah fair enough yeah this is just Sony being Sony yeah to be fair I I
- 3:00think I've only ever played the Silent Hill games on a PlayStation so it's not
- 3:05like I have any right to be up in arms I just used to own one and I don't anymore
- 3:10but wasn't at the time there was only the PlayStation that you could get them
- 3:13on mean well that you could get them on yeah sure of course like it wasn't like
- 3:18there was I don't think wasn't Xbox when Silent Hill 2 came out maybe when Silent
- 3:22Hill 2 came out certainly not when Sil Hill play one game wasn't Silent Hill
- 3:26one but Silent Hill 2 was PlayStation 2 wasn't it correct y yeah
- 3:30sent Hill 3 was on 360 and PS3 I [Music]
- 3:36think I think so need just keep trying to do this like I still want to play
- 3:41Final Fantasy 7 and I still can't you go to Matt's house you can play it yeah I
- 3:48I've replayed Silent Hill one on my um retroid this year earlier this year it
- 3:53it's a great game still once you get used to the controls it's still a great
- 3:57game and it's [ __ ] terrifying it's scary as all [ __ ] it's got mostly
- 4:02because it you know how long it takes you to turn around yeah like that's part
- 4:07of it clunky controls are part of the fear like the first Resident
- 4:12Evil yeah to replay that you can see him coming but what do you do
- 4:18about he may be slow but you're slower he's all the way behind
- 4:25you yeah no not that one not that one that would be instinctual no though
- 4:30you've got to turn with the other one and then go forward that's what I like when they did
- 4:35the remakes they fixed the controls yeah yeah except that I also find it strange
- 4:41because of the fixed camera so you're going forward but you're coming from the
- 4:46back you know it'll cut oh yeah when and there those times where it would like
- 4:50switch screens and you and then you just turn around again then you to load again
- 4:55and mind you that's how horror looked when that came out like when you play it
- 4:59now that looks like '90s horror movies The Silent Hill games had that a lot of
- 5:04that stuff where the camera would be in like a kind of interesting location and
- 5:08kind of Follow You Through the alleyway or whatever that kind of thing and then
- 5:12yeah the controls are odd because if as long as you keep holding it he'll keep
- 5:16going in the direction you're holding but if you stop all bet
- 5:20off that's right yeah yeah yeah um I think wasn't at a time like this is
- 5:26probably one of the first games like third person games that wasn't like a
- 5:29game like most of them so probably maybe they weren't used to having that style
- 5:34with camera follow you and they trying to show off like look at all this cool
- 5:37art we've done what which came out first Resident Evil one or Silent Hill one I
- 5:42feel Resident Evil one but only just yeah I think so I think Silent Hill
- 5:47improved ever so slightly on on that I remember being at a store and
- 5:53some guy showing off Resident Evil I think Resident Evil was the first one
- 5:58and he was going like the game was great don't worry about the voice acting oh
- 6:03terrible yeah yeah because C that was bad mind you Resident Evil 2 [ __ ]
- 6:10game changer I was like games can't get better than this Graphics Can't Get Better Sound
- 6:16can't get better this was it I was convinced speaking of horror
- 6:21games we have a dilemma in this house now because yes I noticed that there was
- 6:26a a Divergence yeah mentioned so um this week's been a bit interesting
- 6:32Jenna's had some minor minor surgery everything's fine but she's just not
- 6:36able to do a lot of stuff so she's been resting and playing Alan Wake too
- 6:42finally and but she has to play as the wife yeah that's should be how it works
- 6:48she is there's but apparently what happened is right you play through the
- 6:53beginning section you play as Saga then you play as Allen right y you don't
- 6:56really get to choose at that point and then after that they meet yeah and then
- 7:01you get popped back into Saga mhm and I continue to play as Saga and I've only
- 7:07played a saga to be honest I've I've not done any Allan Wake stuff I hadn't
- 7:12thought about it to be honest you saving all the weird [ __ ] to do it playing and
- 7:16playing and playing she I think I think L immediately after that switched to
- 7:20Alan went into the the the the laundry room or whatever and oh what's that on
- 7:25the floor and has been playing with Allen the whole time so now we can't
- 7:28talk about the game yeah yeah I think Luke and I played it
- 7:32the same way which is to do one Mission One mission back and forth to get a
- 7:36little break should do no there's no should there's no should I
- 7:42reckon but well now we can't discuss com
- 7:47because yeah I know but isn't that the sign of a great game yeah yeah and cuz
- 7:53she was like I mean I've the stuff I've been doing is Al's quite elaborate so
- 7:58how you know I wonder how much the stuff I've been doing a saga is quite [ __ ]
- 8:01elaborate too so apparently this is an they both got some [ __ ] going on yeah
- 8:07they're both elaborate in very different ways yeah only a couple of weeks until
- 8:12the new DLC comes out yes the one that made Petri Leno
- 8:17cry apparently this links even closer into um
- 8:22control interesting
- 8:26interesting control two coming soon mhm coming eventually if if there's still
- 8:31some stuff to to makebe not soon yeah the Mex pain remake coming soon coming
- 8:37sooner yeah yeah oh I recently played through max
- 8:42pain one Game Boy Advance and I stand by it as a fantastic game really it it is
- 8:48it is the exact game as it was on like PlayStation but it is isometric so
- 8:54they've just they recreated it that's pretty neat yeah so it's it's like Diablo
- 9:01presents uh Max Payne that's probably they probably hold up better to be
- 9:07honest yes yes wouldn't have been as impressive
- 9:13back in their time but probably more playable now like playable now because
- 9:16for some reason we have romanticized pixel art and we never romanticized
- 9:21polygons well on that note it's kind of on that note I'm playing another game
- 9:25now uh with lra we finished links Awakening the remake of links
- 9:32Awakening um which she loved and I loved cuz I play she watches apparently she's
- 9:38content to do that so everybody everybody wins and uh Echoes of wisdom
- 9:43the new Zelda game okay in that style I'm I guess Luke I'm looking at you you
- 9:49might be interested in that I don't know oh I am but I won't play it okay Dan did
- 9:54you play links Awakening no remake I never did links yeah they're very good
- 9:59yeah they're like the link to the past was the last one I played it's more like
- 10:03that it's 3 but it's like that style where it's kind of top down and
- 10:08everything yeah so this's a new one echo's wisdom came out what like uh
- 10:11yesterday I think and uh she's been asking me every day is the new egg game
- 10:16out yet egg game yeah cuz Link's Awakening you trying to wake up the
- 10:22egg the windfish is asleep in the egg how are you going to break it to her
- 10:26that there's no egg well she knows now now it's the horse game
- 10:30and I showed her the trailer like two weeks ago and she was telling Jenna the
- 10:33other day oh yeah the guy in the green shirt gets sucked into this purple hole
- 10:37and then the princess has to save him and Jenna's like what that's true that's
- 10:42what's in the trailer yeah yeah yeah you play Zelda you play Zelda this time M
- 10:47trailers are tricky when they're that age because um the Moana 2 trailer is
- 10:52has dropped and so now hara's like put can you put on Moana too and I'm like
- 10:58it's not out and she's like I've seen a trailer for it I'm like yes but that
- 11:04means it's not out and it'll be out of the movies and you're still too little
- 11:08for the movies yeah that was designed to have you doing this to me yes so right
- 11:13so the second it comes out I give them my money well that's what she keeps
- 11:17asking me she's like is can we play the the new egg game yet and I'm like oh
- 11:21it's not out yet and then I turn on the switch and she's like it's there it's
- 11:24there I'm like yeah it's preloaded that's so that and click on
- 11:28that Dad and I click on it it comes up with text and she's like what's it say
- 11:31what's it say I'm like it says it's not ready yet like I told you yeah like I
- 11:34[ __ ] told you yeah yeah she's yeah I've uh I've got some
- 11:40followup as well um I've just put down here um all of my dreams have come true
- 11:47and I let you guys know during the week um my daughter is officially old enough
- 11:51to play board games now and pretty much the day she was born I said to H I'm
- 11:56just holding out for her to be old enough to play board games because
- 11:59because H doesn't like board games right so I can't play them on my own I've got
- 12:04quite a collection of pretty good games that are just sitting there right and
- 12:10uh play Settlers of Katan yeah yeah
- 12:13yeah no we um we play oh [ __ ] what's it called I can't remember you play as a
- 12:18unicorn you're all unicorns you're on a rainbow your your goal is to get to the
- 12:23other end of the rainbow to the pot of gold um by matching up uh colors of unic
- 12:29heads with their bodies and um I thought [ __ ] I'm just going to try it like even
- 12:35if even if she's too young still and she doesn't understand the rules or doesn't
- 12:38want to play rules just wants to play with the cards at least it'll be an
- 12:41introduction and then like six months from an now I can be like [ __ ] it this
- 12:44is munchkin but
- 12:48um which is my favorite game so uh but no she gets it she she gets it and she
- 12:55she plays like yeah like two two goes through and she like yeah okay I
- 13:00understand the rules let's [ __ ] play and now like I wake her up in the
- 13:03morning and she'll be like unicorn game yeah let's go all right it's better
- 13:09I get I get oh can I watch Sheriff C do we have
- 13:17to I swear I get um Stockholm syndrome with these shows right because you'll
- 13:22find some new show on Disney plus and I be oh God what is this [ __ ] and it's
- 13:27like the animation is terrible and it's ridiculous theing garbage yeah but then
- 13:32like after I've seen this every episode five times I'm like ah this is a good
- 13:37one yeah like have you also we watched a couple like we we're watching D and
- 13:43friends in Oz on Netflix at the moment which is actually very good the music is
- 13:48fantastic in it it's like it's like an
- 13:51urban Wizard of Oz retelling right um
- 13:56but I also found myself like going oh wait where what's going on I think I
- 14:01missed one I'm G to have to go back later and catch up on
- 14:08this the only trouble I have when I wake up in the morning is a cat will wake me
- 14:12up wanting to get under the cover on top of me and then go back to sleep right
- 14:15not not a wife wife doesn't try to wake you up and get on top of you no she just
- 14:19gets up and goes the cats are the ones that she knows he's not waking up
- 14:26yeah I like my sleep we know we know
- 14:31it's the only time I'm not in sleep now it's all right sorry why you have to do
- 14:37that to us I was going to make a joke and now I can't because now it's all
- 14:41serious that was my joke I um it reminds me of an article I
- 14:47read with Jonathan Davies being interviewed years ago like 30 years ago
- 14:51whatever um and they were like why do you perform he's like performing on
- 14:56stage is the only time I'm not wanting to kill myself because my dad raped me
- 15:01as a child and um the interview goes but but a lot of your songs are about your
- 15:05dad raping you as a child he's like Yeah ironic isn't
- 15:09[Laughter] it
- 15:15therapy everybody I guess
- 15:19yeah yeah um I wanted to ask Luke again I know we touched on this briefly
- 15:25there's some news this week uh Assassin's Creed Shadows is not coming
- 15:29out soon no well it is but it's it but not as soon as it was going be coming
- 15:34out in November yeah and it's been pushed back to Feb
- 15:39because apparently Star Wars Outlaws was [ __ ] enough that they worried about it
- 15:46and so because these are similar like the complaints about it they were like
- 15:50oh you don't like that maybe they're based on the same kind of engine gaml
- 15:57it's not just cuz you play as a woman is it both like we're past this surely play as
- 16:02a man in Shadows to you're not a white man I was about to say yeah okay I'd be
- 16:08surprised if there's a lot the Lord God stopping me from saying
- 16:15what I was about to
- 16:20say um look it wasn't a terrible game but it wasn't
- 16:27great oh my God it was a terrible game luk Charlie
- 16:34has corrected I'm sorry uh a messy Masterpiece is what I
- 16:38read and describe okay looked nice how I
- 16:41describe my SE just missed the mark it
- 16:46just a lot of stealth lot of yeah I always want to go and guns a
- 16:53blazing yeah and it's I think it's maybe it's too big I think is maybe the
- 16:58problem with it yeah yeah I get that he still still talking about my sex life
- 17:03L but yeah so they decided to put it back and do some polish on the game I
- 17:08don't think it's that many old games like um Unity such
- 17:14cre unity and stuff they release with terrible bugs this they haven't had that in a
- 17:20while specifically says it's no it wouldn't be bugs because like if it was
- 17:26bugs they delay it anyway or release it they wouldn't go oh another game got
- 17:31shitty reviews we'd better fix our bugs it must be it must be something
- 17:35analogous to both unless it's a speculation but seen a lot of the
- 17:39reporting said that it's been delayed because of the bad reaction to Outlaws
- 17:43which implies to me that there's some similarity otherwise why would why would
- 17:48you give a [ __ ] I don't know what I heard was Ubisoft just said hey we
- 17:52decided that we need a bit more polish
- 17:53on the game okay maybe they're just
- 17:59going to come out and go oh this game is [ __ ] so we're going to spend more time
- 18:02on this one they're not going to say that I mean the articles are saying that
- 18:06is what they said let me or again is that speculation I think might two
- 18:11things that happened they did you s acknowledged that STS didn't do well
- 18:16like didn't meet their expectations and now they've also delayed the game and I
- 18:20think people putting two together I mean you can you can see why they made that
- 18:25stretch right but look I'll say I thought this game Outlaws look very good
- 18:31the only reason I didn't play it is cuz I [ __ ] hate Star Wars now and I've
- 18:35I've just got a bitter taste on my tongue they did specifically reference
- 18:41Outlaws what they said was uh we realized we need more time to polish and
- 18:45refine The Experience pushing further some of our key features while the game
- 18:48is feature complete the learnings from the Star Wars Outlaws release led us to
- 18:52provide additional time to further polish the title okay okay interesting
- 18:57Wonder Maybe did you complete Outlaws Luke obviously you did if you oh you
- 19:02didn't no no I will
- 19:06okay don't force yourself I completed a game this week I
- 19:11completed Tomb Raider 2018s Tomb Raider Tom the first one the first well not the
- 19:18first one but yes the first one of the uh first one of the new Trilogy because
- 19:23I started playing the third one and it's a sequel It's not a standalone game like
- 19:27scene one act one they're just talking about people that have died and where
- 19:31are they and and I'm like I've forgotten all of this I'm going to just do a
- 19:35little crash course and then when I put on Tomb Raider I realized oh this is a
- 19:39really [ __ ] good game like this is so fun and um so I played through in a week
- 19:45um and I mean I wasn't like trying to 100% with the items and the hidden cases
- 19:50and whatever but what a great game and what a great reboot last scene she
- 19:55finally gets her dual pistols you know and you're like [ __ ] yeah school and
- 19:59there's this one scene where she's like I [ __ ] hate tombs and like it's just
- 20:03it's so good and you know you're talking about guns blazing Luke what I like
- 20:08about this is that you can use stealth to a point but then at a point it's just
- 20:13a fire fight yeah and in games I've played in the past I've tried to be as
- 20:17stealthy as I can put my bow stats up this I was like [ __ ] I've got the
- 20:21machine gun I'm going to use it it's a good game because you could do both you
- 20:25could do there's no you're not penalized if you want go g blazing or you want to
- 20:29do stealth and you don't alert an entire base full of
- 20:34enemies by by being seen by one dude like anyone on screen or with an earshot
- 20:39will come at you but then it's back to stealth again and and it resets I like
- 20:43that so I've completed the first game I'm playing the second one which is just
- 20:47even better it's just the same bit better and uh yeah I mean I've completed
- 20:53both of these before but I'm going to go through again so that I can do the third
- 20:57one completed it on Thursday yeah and I don't know if you can see but
- 21:02I got a handful of achievements and I signed up to trueachievements.com so
- 21:06that you could actually see what I I've been getting although when I signed up
- 21:12it still had only a couple listed on there and I knew I'd gotten some that
- 21:15day that weren't updated yet so yeah but yeah I can see you I can now track you a bit
- 21:22more MH get sign up for pro one day then I can really track you stealth thing
- 21:27always makes me think of the most egregious example inoc an Ubisoft game
- 21:32just as we were talking about them too is uh Watch Dogs and Watch Dogs 2 even
- 21:37more so because it was so out of
- 21:41character for that that that guy to just go in and murder all those people and
- 21:47there were literally no consequences for any of it like Mission would end and it
- 21:51was just like it never happened no one mentions it like yeah I just murdered
- 21:57100 people today yeah yeah his daughter died or no his SCE
- 22:03died I don't remember remember the story yeah yeah no I just remember that it was
- 22:07always so strange to me that that that I could be doing stealth you know like
- 22:12trying to knock people out not kill anybody someone sees me well then that's
- 22:16everyone has to die you have to kill everybody you just have to cuz that's
- 22:19how it works in that game and then afterwards he's like go back and hang
- 22:23out with my friends yeah yeah it's just that one was very yeah yeah jarring
- 22:28you're trying to you're trying to climb a fence one dude sees you're like well
- 22:32I'm sorry mate but you and all your friends are dead yeah you've made me do
- 22:35this yeah I find I mean in Tomb Raider at least they're all evil but I she
- 22:41kills a lot of people like she's a killer of men you
- 22:45know and women no I don't kill any women
- 22:48in this you're I don't are there any women that I don't think there is in the
- 22:53first one no trying think second there's only two other women in the game they're
- 22:57both on your team one of they're both Shipwrecked with you one of them is like
- 23:02sus against you until the end and then one of them gets kidnapped and they're
- 23:06going to try to resurrect a dead Queen inside her and you've got to uh you got
- 23:11to rescue her no you just kill men to counter that though I watched a
- 23:17movie this week where a lot of women get killed right I
- 23:22haven't it's not a new movie but I rewatched Girl with the Dragon Tattoo oh yeah David
- 23:29[ __ ] this is a good movie and it's strange because I read the book when it
- 23:32came out and I thought it was fine and then I saw the Swedish movie when it
- 23:36came out and I also thought it was fine but I love this movie I love this it's
- 23:40such a good movie I I really like Fincher like yeah he just makes good
- 23:46stuff like not always like no pretty
- 23:51pretty consistent but you know I wasent I had uh Spotify just on while I was
- 23:56working the other day and it know it's got that AI thing now just kind of it's
- 24:00like oh some stuff that you were listening to you know whatever a couple
- 24:03years ago and this this music came on and I was like oh I know this what is
- 24:07this mind Hunter soundtrack oh yeah it's a [ __ ] great show by by Fincher like
- 24:12mind Hunter is great yeah you probably did you ever watch House of Cards Matt
- 24:17no no the first season's done by Fincher and it's it's [ __ ] excellent
- 24:22obviously there's reasons to not watch it if you but you can tell it's Fincher
- 24:27if you know I can I can ignore the reality of yeah him I know who you mean
- 24:33but they all it's not just the reality of him because they had to it happened
- 24:36during that show so the the later Seasons they had to write him out they
- 24:40had to write the lead character out of the show that be evidentally Fincher was
- 24:45signed to do three all three of the um dragon tattoos um and the only reason it
- 24:51didn't happen was because Daniel CRA became too big a star and they couldn't
- 24:53afford him huh so the whole thing fell apart did they ever do any sequels
- 24:59no they did a reboot because oh a fourth book written by somebody else but it's
- 25:05it's the official canonical book came out and they had dibs on that so they
- 25:10remade that with new actors instead of continuing
- 25:14on but in the in Swedish the the book is called men who hate
- 25:21women all right okay
- 25:28bit extreme isn't it very extreme speaking of horror movies one of the
- 25:32better recent horror movies was Barbarian great movie very good directed
- 25:38by Zack craigger from The Whitest Kids
- 25:41you know [ __ ] uh the uh the um
- 25:46incredulous guy from The grapest Grape you in the mouth he's going to I think it's too
- 25:52much he's going to rape them yeah yeah I'm going to rape you what no I'm saying
- 25:58that's what it sounds like you're saying get your mind out of the
- 26:02gutter I like it hey race War what we're
- 26:07always talking about doing the race war no we didn't that's the guy who directed
- 26:14Barbarian amazing so um he's he's now up apparently for the
- 26:19new Resident Evil I'm not talking about a dick I'm just talking about balls I
- 26:24know why you think it sounds gay I just want a woman with balls
- 26:28not that guy that guy died no that guy yeah yes he did yeah and they did a
- 26:33eulogy for him online Zack cger and the other guys where they said yeah we just
- 26:37feel like the public should know that he did die trying to suck his own
- 26:43dick just so you know Matt if you go first that's what Luke and I are going
- 26:46to do for you yeah that's fair that's fair but anyway yeah Zack Gregor
- 26:51barbarian was amazing excellent and he's up for the new um two very it was two
- 26:57very good movies switch together yes yeah in in a very I might actually watch
- 27:02these cuz I really tuned out of the other Resident Evil movies after I tuned
- 27:07out and then I tuned back in again I must admit they got so bad that they
- 27:11were good they just kept coming out yeah and I don't know why mil Jovovich was
- 27:18married to the director of those movies so that wasn't going anywhere it made
- 27:22enough money that they could fund the next one yeah they're just cuz the first
- 27:27one was they have an audience and they know the audience and they just it's in
- 27:31the same yeah the first one was good it to me it's the same as the underworld
- 27:34movies just like the first one very good genre movie second one okay I I see what
- 27:39you're doing here making more of this yeah yeah and then it's like wait how
- 27:43many are we up to now well the third one was the rise of the lyans or what it was
- 27:48it was a different director different cast and it was well mostly different
- 27:52cast another example of when the director and the actress get married and
- 27:55they're just like let's just keep doing these yeah
- 27:59and the the actress's husband is also in the
- 28:03movie yeah yeah mind you he's arguably more famous than any of them now Michael
- 28:08Sheen I reckon oh then Kate beckin sale yeah maybe but was she in other than the
- 28:13underworld movies yeah I suppose and my my masturbation
- 28:20fantasies I mean the Total Recall remake directed by her husband Lenn wisman well
- 28:25ex-husband actually I think I think they divorced oh is that right well just
- 28:31reading this so craer was originally directing the proposed reboot of the
- 28:35clue but passed on that for Resident
- 28:38Evil I understand that uh your mate Luke
- 28:45um my mate Luke [ __ ] brain was the guy from [ __ ] two guys
- 28:51and a girl in a pizza shop [ __ ] Deadpool ran Reynolds Ryan Reynolds
- 28:56wants to do the I don't know the other guy's name so hopefully you mean him
- 29:00yeah I don't know the other guy's name either no one does
- 29:05okay but he got to act in it clue is a great movie though yes I assume he'd
- 29:10want to be the butler would he like Cur don't remind me about Tim
- 29:16Curry oh man you know I learned a fact this week heavy spoilers did a deep dive
- 29:21in Batman 89 right oh yeah and like I thought I knew a fair bit about the
- 29:25behind the scenes of that movie but there was stuff I didn't I didn't know
- 29:28like the fact that it was in the in uh Jack Nicholson's contract that if the LA
- 29:34Lakers were playing an at home game production shut down so he could go and watch it like
- 29:40just just weird [ __ ] like this but originally and I knew this originally um
- 29:47Harold Ramos wanted to direct it and it was going to Star Bill Murray as Batman
- 29:52right they really wanted a comedian didn't they and Eddie Murphy as Robin
- 29:56because Robin was in the script right until the end even even when Burton was
- 30:00on board that got canned next they approached Spielberg right and Spielberg
- 30:06said yeah I'll do it but I want Harrison Ford as Batman Michael J Fox as Robin
- 30:12and Tim Curry as the Joker I would have watched the [ __ ] out of imagine that I
- 30:18mean I love what we got but imagine that yeah D they really wanted comedians
- 30:24didn't they though like really yeah but up until then the only Batman
- 30:30anyone knew was it's funny when you look back at the behind scenes stuff and you
- 30:34hear about how controversial it was cuz we were kids we didn't understand at the
- 30:39time how controversial it was that Michael Keaton was Batman and the the
- 30:44death threats and the like insanity that that he got as a result it's just seems
- 30:49weird and this isn't the back in the day people just logging onto Twitter or
- 30:52something these were people were mailing physical desperates yeah because he was
- 30:57go out of your way threaten someone in those days didn't you yes cuz he was not
- 31:00a serious actor I guess or or well he was that we just didn't know it yeah
- 31:05right right right that's what I mean like people thought he was a joke and
- 31:08then yeah it's interesting to look back it's ballsy though that Burton had made
- 31:13pe's big adventure and Beetlejuice and then he got Batman somehow off the back
- 31:19of that and then he was like I'm bringing the guy from Beetlejuice like
- 31:22he must have they must have been like no way and he'd be like it's either that or
- 31:25it's PeeWee Herman fine fine it's it's yeah Prince
- 31:29is doing the soundtrack and he was like [ __ ] all right it was originally going
- 31:34to be Prince and Michael Jackson co-writing the songs and he was like I
- 31:38[ __ ] I'll take Prince but I draw the line at Michael
- 31:42Jackson but I'm bringing Danny Elfman yeah yeah who they also didn't want he
- 31:47had to really no no I know and there was an article written about um there's
- 31:51actually quite a famous letter that Danny Elfman wrote and it was printed in
- 31:55some magazine like I don't remember the specifics but it was somebody's review
- 31:59of Batman maybe some famous film critic reviewed and said something about Danny
- 32:04Elfman obviously had somebody orchestrate the score for him while he
- 32:09plunked it out on a guitar or something like that and then and then yeah and Dan
- 32:13wrote this big thing about like thanks mate but I um I actually yeah I'm
- 32:16actually wrote that score yeah right yeah yeah I'm I'm not just Oingo Boingo
- 32:21also I wrote all of the instruments in Oingo Boingo not just the
- 32:25[ __ ] kind of a big deal at the time yeah controversial movie apparently just
- 32:30none of that was apparent to me as a kid though no it's a lot different at the
- 32:34time cuz like there wasn't the internet so you weren't getting a lot of these
- 32:37stories you maybe someu magazines but it's all sort of Word of Mouth in
- 32:41people's memories but the funny thing is I don't remember people going it's not
- 32:45serious enough you can't c a comedian I remember people going why is he all in
- 32:50black and why does he have a gun like because hardly anyone had read you know
- 32:57Frank Miller Batman and you know like it it those were the people who were
- 33:01writing death threats to uh Michael Keaton I assume but but then you have
- 33:05everyone's mom going my kids aren't going to go and see Batman if he's
- 33:11[ __ ] K yeah I remember people walking out of the cinema with his shark
- 33:16repellent bat spray yeah yeah I mean there's some Dopey [ __ ]
- 33:21in this movie too though like it's high camp as well it's just dark high camp
- 33:25it's like get to pass though because as a kid I just absorbed it and it's like
- 33:30no that's just oh I think what happens I I try to separate myself because I still
- 33:35love it and I I do believe I honestly believe it's not just Nostalgia I think
- 33:39it's a good movie but like that scene where he electrocutes the guy with the
- 33:44buzzer if they put in that in a movie now I'd be like come on come on yeah
- 33:49yeah except it's a [ __ ] dumb buzzer but it burns him to death like I know
- 33:56and then to the corpse and then he [ __ ] tiens the tie on the corpse like he they
- 34:02lean into it but like if if in [ __ ] what's he what's his name the Batman
- 34:08right the oh yeah yeah yeah um the rec what's Rob Pat Matt Reeves yeah Matt
- 34:13Reeves Rob Paton If he if that happened in that movie I'd have turned it off
- 34:18true yeah mind you this is the bat WIS flying down the street that's sick and
- 34:24and Joker is there the Batwing has dual come and just start sh completely miss
- 34:31the Joker The Joker pulls out this ridiculous and shoots the backwing out
- 34:37of the sky one shot and then also the Joker's got these balloons that have
- 34:41poisonous gas and the Batwing just happens to have a balloon scissors on the front yeah
- 34:46scissors on the front and then a store it in the back so we can and lets them
- 34:50and drift and I remember the Mad Magazine Batman Vicky veils in the in
- 34:54the batwing with him and she goes won't they just fly over another city and he's
- 34:58like not my [Laughter]
- 35:03problem great movie I I want to watch that again it's been a long
- 35:09time you
- 35:12should what else has been going on
- 35:17um we've got some like weird Tech news this week um this I thought this was
- 35:23quite funny there's a company uh called what was it called do not pay and
- 35:29they've been fined by the FTC this was
- 35:33a that said uh yeah
- 35:37they AI lawyers they
- 35:40said uh the you'll be assigned an AIW I mean it's only a matter of time if this
- 35:46is a scam now oh a year from now this is probably just going to be something we
- 35:50all have yes so they've said that um that you know the world's first robotic
- 35:56lawyer with the ability to sue any one with the click of a button uh the FDC
- 36:00find them because they made no attempt to validate whether this thing could
- 36:06function as could in fact work yeah or whether it could legally yeah yeah it
- 36:10was nonsensical mhm mhm so they've been fined 193,000 that's not that much it's
- 36:16not that much considering how much did they make well I don't know according to
- 36:20the FDC if it was more they still come out on top is what I'm saying they were
- 36:24charging 36 bucks every two months which is quite an odd like a subscription
- 36:30service is it yeah yeah they started it in 2019 uh while making several false
- 36:36claims in ads to drive up subscriptions uh subscription to an AI
- 36:42lawyer mind you if lawyers come to $36 a month I'm telling you right now that is
- 36:47a considerable drop in price I'm paying a human lawyer this is a this is an ad
- 36:53uh this was in the the Los Angeles Times what this robot lawyer can do is
- 36:57astonishingly similar if not more to what human lawyers do that's want that's
- 37:03not even a good sentence simar the lawyer that sentence
- 37:09yeah terrible yeah that's great that's
- 37:14excellent do not pay who is that referring to do not pay a lawyer do not
- 37:20pay us do not pay your subscription it's just bad marketing no matter do not pay
- 37:24your parking fines our robot loyal
- 37:29yeah like I could they sort of do have sort of a good business model like $36
- 37:35is pretty cheap you get a lot of people to sign up for that mind you Americans
- 37:39don't need to be [ __ ] have any more incentive to quote Sue anyone with the
- 37:45click of a button like you guys need to settle down on that stuff that reminds
- 37:50me have you been following the Billy Mitchell trial oh what's going on there
- 37:53Billy Mitchell news yeah the trial's actually been going onil in it's not
- 37:58going well for him [Laughter]
- 38:04oh it's really not I think he's just cuz he's always been very litigious and I
- 38:10think his plan has always been and it's always worked that he just keeps going
- 38:14with it and get gets people to settle because they can't afford to go on with
- 38:17it I've just found a Blog that's got a day byday rundown I'm this afterwards
- 38:22yeah okay I'm got to get on this yeah listen to yeah cuz he's got his he's got
- 38:25his his restaurant money to to to back him up he can just keep suing and
- 38:30suing or something Luke um there was a a YouTube channel that just had a day
- 38:35byday rundown I forget what it was it just popped up and I've been listening
- 38:39to it and it's just a very short five minute things like this is what they did
- 38:42through today and yeah it's not looking good for him
- 38:47cuz great defense that Co jobs has got like you're saying that in your lawsuit
- 38:52against Twin Galaxies you said they caused all this and now you're coming at
- 38:55me saying I caused all of this caused all this like who did what and
- 39:01where's the actual impact because you're still going to conventions you're still
- 39:05getting booked is it l or Lu us I don't know how you meant to say this but that
- 39:10seems to be the one that's coming out with a daily yeah that might be it just
- 39:16popped up and it's just just a really nice breakdown of what it is and so
- 39:20they've finished for the moment I think they go back on October
- 39:245th exciting stuff been but I'm yeah I think he this is going to
- 39:30be the first time I think he's going to realize he's going to have to pay cuz
- 39:33it's not like in America no wait what do you mean Australia it's not like yeah it's
- 39:40not like us for in America yeah yeah this is happening in Queensland right
- 39:43yeah because he had to do it in Queensland and so if he loses he's going
- 39:46to have to pay costs and it's not cheap
- 39:51yeah I think KL was saying he maybe he probably didn't realize that at a
- 39:57certain point it became too late for him to just walk away and now like he's he
- 40:03lives in Queensland does he is that why yeah right okay I didn't know that okay
- 40:07yeah he su in Australia I normally Billy Mitchell yeah
- 40:12okay so Mitchell's going to find that things might not just be as easy for him
- 40:17to just drag kyl jobs is actually going to make money he's still going to lose
- 40:21like that's not the point though but that's not the point he was making a
- 40:25stand and Billy Mitch was finally going to have to it it's just more difficult to bully
- 40:29somebody with a lawsuit in Australia because you can't walk away
- 40:33consequence-free at the end of it if you do that yeah you're liable that's why we
- 40:37don't have people Su people left and right
- 40:40here yeah the the cols near me has when you got the elevator these big pictures
- 40:46on each level of like the farming areas
- 40:50where their fresh project comes from and the the farmer who supplies to my
- 40:56particular calls just happens to be named Billy Mitchell and so it's like
- 41:01it's like you can thank Billy Mitchell for the fruit you're buying today I'm like
- 41:07okay watch the tapes carefully so I'm definitely going to be
- 41:12following this and yeah bring on 5th of October very I think there's only like
- 41:17two more days of the tri go Billy Mitchell should subscribe to the AI
- 41:22lawyer then for $36 a month see if that gets him there you go cuz he's gone
- 41:27through a lot of lawyers as well throughout the case he's gone
- 41:32through a lot of lawyers has he been sucking them or have they been walking
- 41:34away imagine he's a pain in the ass yeah I think it's a bit of like like you
- 41:40they're probably advising like you're not going to win this is bad like you
- 41:43need to stop can't you just say this no we can't just make [ __ ] up
- 41:48yes this is the evidence we're arguing yeah we have to go with the facts and
- 41:53the facts are it doesn't look like you did it legit yeah
- 41:59yeah and yeah it's not it's it's not
- 42:03slant it's it'sing on a liel right yeah they're not even litigating whether or
- 42:08not he did or didn't cheat that's not what what whether or not we can people
- 42:11can say KL jobs harmed his reputation by reporting on the fact that he was
- 42:18accused of cheating I think that's he should be thanking Carl jobs for keeping
- 42:22him in the [ __ ] news one of the other things is um and I think get glossed
- 42:27over a little bit is one of the things he did say there was another content
- 42:30creator Apollo I think it's Apollo who' also accused of him of cheating right um
- 42:37they had a lawsuit they settled um Apollo was also having some sort of
- 42:41medical issues as well and sort of took his life a little bit after that and kle
- 42:47sort of reported on that and sort of like didn't say like that was the cause
- 42:52of it but like this would have been added stress in his life with
- 42:58settlement May yeah and so that's part of the litigo but that's not the that's
- 43:03part of it but I can't believe any judge is going to allow this even to go to
- 43:08court because honestly it is so it is such common knowledge that Billy
- 43:14Mitchell [ __ ] cheated like yeah yeah he has no
- 43:19reputation to to in that regard everybody knows yeah and here's the
- 43:25thing like he is still it's not like he's a terrible what year did King of
- 43:29Kong come out when I saw that I was like well he cheated
- 43:33like he did it to himself you got to remember though he he's still a good
- 43:39gamer like it's not like he that's what so sad about it yeah that's what's so
- 43:43sad the he finishes Pac-Man on a regular basis but then he lies about getting a
- 43:47perfect score like why just don't just don't lie about that bit at the end
- 43:52still be known for being as good as you are which is very good like
- 43:57I'm not saying he's never gotten a perfect score I'm what I'm referencing
- 44:00is a particular example he get video doing on that day correct the day that
- 44:04he claimed he got a perfect score he [ __ ] didn't because it's on video you
- 44:08can see that he didn't it's the Amber herd thing I swear this is what happened
- 44:11with Amber herd I'm like I bet he did Bash you cuz he seems like a right [ __ ]
- 44:16but the fact was he didn't do it on the day you took pictures because that was
- 44:19makeup and we have proof look on uh on on legal matters there's another one in here that I
- 44:26thought was funny there's a uh a it's a a library website
- 44:32a pirate Library website Library the library TGA Oh I thought you meant it it
- 44:38just had uh copies of uh Treasure Island
- 44:42yes no it's called libgen and it's uh it's got a bunch of books and stuff on
- 44:47it I think is it just books library Genesis maybe it's all sorts of stuff as
- 44:51in like for your Kindle yeah like EB yeah I mean actually you know what I
- 44:55think you can just go on this website and download things it's not even Tor
- 45:00PDFs of books I think it's I think I think that's what it is but anyway they
- 45:04they recently a judge ordered yep guilty of piracy they'll have to pay $30
- 45:10million to Publishers the problem is they don't have any money nobody knows
- 45:16who runs the website they've done they've made this decision yeah right to
- 45:21who so they had a court hearing W with no no defendant correct
- 45:27wow no one knows who this website whoever it is is going to have to pay
- 45:31and this has happened before they've had a ruling against them in uh was it
- 45:352017 they were told you got to pay Publishers 15
- 45:41million well no it never happened because no one knows who they are wow
- 45:45it's just this website's just doing its thing people are suing winning getting
- 45:51[ __ ] all cuz it's like how do you Su a ghost then you've got Pirate Bay people
- 45:55sitting in Sweden going why did we tell everyone who we were yeah exactly should
- 45:58have kept them yeah it just looks like um it looks like um books magazines and
- 46:04stuff like that yeah okay yeah so it's still online well like
- 46:09Pirate Bay then I think once somebody sets it up it's actually just kind of
- 46:13peer generated right people just start uploading stuff I think yeah and I think
- 46:17it just one dude pirating everything and putting it up there what this this
- 46:22article says that the the the only way or potentially the only way this website
- 46:27will ever be destroyed is if Google or whoever was to pull their ad accounts
- 46:33because then they wouldn't make any money there's no ads on it no but then I
- 46:38was thinking like would they care yeah I was about to say at this point yeah no
- 46:43no there are no ads there's nothing there's not even like but you want I'm
- 46:49looking at a white screen are they are torrent they are torrent so yes exactly
- 46:53well they're torrent so there's no there's barely any infrastructure costs
- 46:57associated with it I assume so I don't think that would work either yeah cuz
- 47:03torrent you're downloading directly from other you don't need a server yeah yeah
- 47:07so they basically just an index what they need to do is just stop going after
- 47:12them suing them and bringing attention to them yeah because all that's
- 47:15happening with this is we now know about it yeah i' never heard of them now I'm
- 47:20gonna oh Stu up my Kindle yeah I mean there's a not not government not not or
- 47:26whoever yeah I'm not going to do that that's a joke I'm not going to do
- 47:30that Luke is not currently on the site right now I've already closed off I
- 47:35don't even have a Kindle I have a Kindle but I've
- 47:40rekindled oh so to speak my my love of actual books
- 47:45yeah store Master you mean you mean books not the boooks actual book not
- 47:50books yeah yeah still keen on a boooks but yeah I'm kind of keen on it too is
- 47:56there a chicken it's
- 48:03Watson what you a cat just for I'm just
- 48:06patting her not his manservant
- 48:14yeah she's cold I'm reading a book at the moment non-fiction book where some people have
- 48:21valet and I'm like G of the [ __ ] days aren't they like you know like we were
- 48:27really men in in a in a world where that no longer really means what it used to
- 48:33mean you know oh we didn't talk about this yet The
- 48:38Grand Tour oh yeah I haven't watched yet
- 48:42did you watch it Luke yeah I did yeah I won't ruin anything because if you Haven
- 48:47watched Dam but it was good it you can it was a nice send off spoilers for GR
- 48:51tour is absolutely fine it had less um I mean I know it's largely like
- 48:57manufactured and played up for television it is like but this this had Le this felt more
- 49:04natural than you than the last few had and I think that's also part of the
- 49:07reason why it is sort of ending I think they're too old for that Builder bridge
- 49:12to go over but I quite liked this because it did seem more just genuine
- 49:16like whether it I know that they probably do multiple takes and some of
- 49:20the stuff is set up or whatever but there was there a producer right there
- 49:24except for that bit I did laugh about the [ __ ] Volkswagen
- 49:27that made me laugh a lot where he's like get the back the backup Beetle and then
- 49:34itly it cuts and Jeremy's like you've got to help me I I was I was turning the
- 49:38corner and I came off the road and then this plank of wood fell onto the
- 49:41accelerator and now the only thing stopping the car from caring off this
- 49:46Cliff is this piece of rope that's tied to the handbrake and it's now in the dog
- 49:50of that M that the the mouth of that dog over there but James May is about to
- 49:55open a can of dog food
- 49:59that made me laugh that was funny but no I think ni end off and it it's a it's
- 50:04sort of sad but also the photos at the end when you see the amount of crew that
- 50:10follows them is insane and that sequence [ __ ] Xbox is
- 50:14on it's turning itself off when they go back to so they go back to where they
- 50:19began yeah basically on their first ever very first special they go back to the
- 50:25same place same tree and every in Botswana yep and uh then you see
- 50:31footage of one interspersed with the other and it's like [ __ ] man looking how
- 50:37little they are in the old footage and stuff just yeah it's it's good YouTube
- 50:42knows it's out because it's been bombarding me with um just two three
- 50:47minute clips from Top Gear yeah and it's funny I don't remember it yeah yeah but
- 50:54I but you know what the we always complain that grand tour is just a
- 50:58little too staged and set up mate Top Gear was like that too like I mean even
- 51:03even as in the chat show environment like you're like you've rehearsed this
- 51:08you know like you're setting him up to make his comment yeah but I I think but
- 51:13I never noticed that when I was younger watching it no but I still think they do
- 51:16it well yeah I think when people have tried to do the same show they don't
- 51:20have the chemistry amazing yeah yeah exactly yeah that's exactly right and
- 51:24then because there was a clip I saw the other day of um
- 51:27it was it was early Top Gear it was James may he still got brown hair he's
- 51:32not he's not all white he's looking young and slim and then Clarkson doing
- 51:36like a review just a review of a car on the show and like just the back and
- 51:41forth and the report and the like the ribbon each other and stuff like that
- 51:45it's just so good man and the [ __ ] they used to get away with too like this car
- 51:50looks a bit gay would you drive this car are you gay like yeah I know that people
- 51:56have said that yes there was a problem but it's of its time like yeah that's
- 52:02not an excuse but that it is what it is like that's I keep saying as you can't
- 52:07watch friends now if you're afraid of a little casual homophobia yeah that's
- 52:10what I mean it's just it's just how people were as long as you learn going forward
- 52:17it's okay it's not okay but it's you got to yeah
- 52:22change sad to go and now Clarkson's Farm continues I
- 52:28hope because I like that
- 52:34show I couldn't get into it it's great I
- 52:38just I F it like I don't know it's like how how how do we make it hard for
- 52:45Jeremy this week you know yeah yeah it is he does it so well
- 52:50though you're right like it's it's clearly all stage but he just he he
- 52:55plays it off so if those really all if that cast of characters really just
- 53:00happens to be the people that he hired like [ __ ] hell because everybody in
- 53:06that show is is just amazing like all the the characters
- 53:12you know like the guy what's guy builds the walls yeah I can't remember his name
- 53:16yeah and then what's the [ __ ] young guy's name Caleb Caleb yeah like him
- 53:21like if he really was just somebody that they stumbled across you know while
- 53:25filming season 1 I'm telling you he wasn't yeah I'm sure I'm sure he wasn't
- 53:30but but the fact that you have to ask means it's successful yeah
- 53:35yes the only one of them that doesn't have stuff still on get that chicken out of
- 53:41here try to keep quiet the only one of them that doesn't
- 53:46have doesn't still do stuff I like is Hammond yeah he's just very much uh like
- 53:52he's doing stuff but I don't think it's taken off CU James May's got a new
- 53:55special out man in India on Prime and his travel shows are great yeah and his
- 54:02his YouTube channel is funny too like just his own his own stuff that [ __ ]
- 54:07the the Japan series was so funny I think I think ham just wants to
- 54:14be young you think he he had his brush with death and now he's like craving youth
- 54:21again I think he's trying to do the fun young stuff whereas the other two are
- 54:25going me yeah yeah he was
- 54:30always try I don't know if he was trying to be the cool one but I think he always
- 54:34thought he was the cool one and I think he still thinks he is y but he's just as much
- 54:41a man as the others are like no no no we're daughtering old Brits let's do
- 54:46that yeah yeah yeah but he's still like I've got a funky
- 54:51haircut I've still got I'm cool I'm still cool yeah look at my leather
- 54:55jacket yeah yeah I've got a couple leather jackets I shouldn't talk I've
- 54:59got one I've got two leather jackets and no
- 55:03hair that makes up for it yeah my my neighbor my elderly neighbor
- 55:09has a gray leather jacket that must be left over from the80s because it's cut
- 55:16in that kind of triangle back like like what you would
- 55:20imagine Michael Jackson might have worn in red but you know what but this is
- 55:24gray which I'm I think doesn't EX exist in real life anyway you you know what I
- 55:28mean like it's just an unusual color for a leather jacket but every time I see
- 55:31him I'm like this guy just thinks that's still cool he doesn't realize how retro
- 55:35cool he is you know I've got my red one that I got in
- 55:41London cuz that guy just wouldn't [ __ ] wouldn't let it go I've tried it
- 55:47on and he was like this jacket's perfect for you it was like I don't think it was
- 55:50like 300b I was like a no no good he's
- 55:52like 250 I'm like no 240 220 210 200 180
- 55:57150 and I was like no no it's fine and then I think Jordan or somebody says oh
- 56:01let's just go have a look next door and he goes oh you think you're going to
- 56:03find a jacket next door you're not 120 last off fine fine
- 56:11yeah uh just to bring it back to David Fincher it's the
- 56:16um the uh [ __ ] hell Fight Club yeah
- 56:21Fight Club yeah I've I've looked for that kind of jacket I
- 56:26think like I I would probably look ridiculous in it but I that is a cool
- 56:31jacket that he has in that movie but I think that was probably made for the
- 56:36movie yeah there's um there's costume like jacket websites where they just
- 56:42copy any jacket from any movie which I have seen that on cuz actual yeah I
- 56:47guess it would be like 7 it's got big collars and stuff on it but I think
- 56:50actual 7s ons don't look that cool didn't really have that I mean certainly
- 56:54not on me anyway so maybe it's just you have to be Brad Pit that could be a
- 56:58factor maybe it's just that he looks good in stuff that we don't look good in
- 57:01it's possible I as I'm talking I'm like is it really surprising that something
- 57:05Brad Pit looks good in might not good me my like style Guru that I don't copy but
- 57:12the just that I love is Kean Reeves and I'm just like [ __ ] I wish I could dress
- 57:15like Keanu but it's like but you'd look like a right [ __ ] you know sure yeah
- 57:21I used to think Johnny Depp looked cool but he doesn't anymore no he doesn't at
- 57:25some point he crossed over into sad like yeah yeah yeah I don't know
- 57:32when that happened few years I don't like him he's not a nice
- 57:34person oh I'm not not so much that but he used to look cool he doesn't look
- 57:40cool now he looks like but he didn't change it's just that time changed
- 57:45because I remember seeing there was an interview with him um well in the late
- 57:49'90s any [ __ ] long hair and his face and he's doing having a rly and he's
- 57:53wearing a vest in like a pirate shirt and I'm like yeah that's [ __ ] cool
- 57:57but I saw him recently wearing pretty much the exact same thing and I'm like
- 58:00you look like a [ __ ] with mate dress your
- 58:05age yeah something I don't
- 58:10do um so I'm saying he Trump's GNA save
- 58:14us is he by demanding Apple yeah yeah
- 58:20listen to him yeah yeah now the um the the uh both of the would be assassins uh
- 58:26the FBI have not been able to unlock their phones because you know phones
- 58:29have a lot of security these days to prevent that and Y uh apparently at a
- 58:34rally the other day Donald Trump was saying you know we've Apple's got to get
- 58:39on this they've got to do something about it you know they've really got to
- 58:43open this guy's phone so he's just going to sort it out he's going to get apple
- 58:47to unlock the guy's Samsung Galaxy
- 58:52phone they'll take care of that I'm sure yeah um I mean and even if it if it was an
- 58:58iPhone which would be more appropriate I think they can't that's the point no
- 59:03like and I think cuz they've been through this before remember with the
- 59:06Boston Bomber yes where they trying to get locked and by Design they can't and
- 59:12unless they're lying that's the end of it because and cuz that wen't they looking at like
- 59:17we're going to force you to create a back door and they're go no if we create
- 59:20a back door there is a back door to all phones and we can't do that like
- 59:26I my understanding is that there isn't and there isn't a way for them to do it
- 59:30and so it's kind of silly to just even discuss it at this point like they
- 59:34designed it so you can't the only way that this would be feasible is
- 59:38if the government compelled them to put a back door in and then in which case he
- 59:42shouldn't be talking about it in public no you know what I mean like like what
- 59:46they what ended up happening is I think they went if fin came along went uh
- 59:51don't worry about it we've worked it out and that was done they didn't come
- 59:57out and say what they did or how they just went it's sorted don't worry about it
- 1:00:02anymore yeah don't cuz I learn this week that the um oh my my phone is actually
- 1:00:07filming me right now you know on the iPhone Dan you've got an iPhone right I
- 1:00:11do yeah you know when something's using the microphone or the camera there's a
- 1:00:16light that pops up and in fact when the microphone in particular it's like an
- 1:00:19orange thing that pops up mhm on the
- 1:00:23phone that orange thing on the phone is controlled by a completely different
- 1:00:29chip on the on the in the phone right it's not part of any other video display
- 1:00:36system or or anything like that no software on the phone has any control
- 1:00:40over that if something's using the microphone that bit of the screen will
- 1:00:45be orange yeah right they can't [ __ ] around so that's why was this was in
- 1:00:50relation to people talking about you your phone listens to you and that kind
- 1:00:53of thing if that light if that phone's on that lights on they can't prevent it
- 1:00:59yep apparently oh it's still yeah the phone
- 1:01:03doesn't listen to you doesn't need to it's yeah there's yeah yeah there's a a
- 1:01:10wider net being cast yes yeah cuz it's like it just knows that you in a room
- 1:01:15with five other people and one of them Google you know yeah that's what oh
- 1:01:21someone's pregnant like yeah thing it gets the information from sharing data
- 1:01:25from the phones like and then that's why you have these things oh we're just
- 1:01:27talking about this the other day I didn't search anything so how does no
- 1:01:31must be listening no the person you with searched it yeah a guy who said that he
- 1:01:36went hiking without phones to the to the top of a mountain had a conversation
- 1:01:41about some hiking gear came home and then got ads for the gear it's like how
- 1:01:47did that happen it's like cuz she posted photos of you and your friend and then
- 1:01:50that person you talked to about it probably Googled it yeah and so they
- 1:01:56it's not like you talked about something so completely out of the blue and
- 1:01:59honestly you're probably researching stuff before you went and buying even
- 1:02:04yeah it's it's actually scarier that they don't have to listen to you they
- 1:02:09can figure it out anyway that's should be more also people that say no it can't
- 1:02:12be a coincidence Mick West did the maths and discovered that once every 3 weeks
- 1:02:17you should encounter a fairly convincing coincidence and once every 3 months you
- 1:02:23should encounter a mind-blowing coincidence like that's how often things
- 1:02:27coincide yeah it's like when you oh you're thinking about somebody and then
- 1:02:32they text you with the phon or whatever but like because you don't notice you
- 1:02:35think about don't you think about people constantly your [ __ ] brain's always
- 1:02:39thinking like yeah yeah the uh it's like I I always notice when the clock says
- 1:02:447-Eleven cuz I'm like huh 7eleven but it's like but it's not the only time I
- 1:02:48look at the clock yeah it's just that you've made it but Mick West was
- 1:02:52watching Jeopardy with his wife and a question was about something they were
- 1:02:55talking about during the day and she went huh what are the chances and he
- 1:02:58went yes what are the chances and he figured it out quite quite High apparently yeah
- 1:03:05actually pretty high yeah higher than you would think
- 1:03:09um and that's how our brains work yeah
- 1:03:14because we like patterns yeah speaking of pattern of behavior we've got some
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