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Erection Friendly Onesies: Reddit's AMAgeddon & Xbox 360 Red Ring Fix · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt it's a bit
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  ay so I don't really understand it Luke is that a little sashwat penis danam I
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  accidentally got soap in my urethra and sometimes Dave you don't understand how
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  sick it makes me feel the fact that I wanted to have sex with my own daughter
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  and occasionally Terry smallo maybe you wake up in the middle of the night with
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  a little sashwat panus inside of you
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  multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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  Things
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  nerdy that's the sync of all three of us being on highspeed
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  connections I have an erection now so uh now let's begin High spe connection
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  sounds like like a dating site for race car
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  drivers yeah or jockeys find your true
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  love on the highp speed connections so what do you guys been
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  doing this week me Batman ah you've been doing you've been doing Batman I've been doing
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  Batman you don't do Batman Batman does you and when we have a bit of breather
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  from Batman doing me I've been playing the game as
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  well he Ducks off to uh to Goth City yeah mhm
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  um well you haven't just been doing that we uh we came down to visit you this
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  weekend Jenner and I and and Jordan yes um Jenna sister we went down to CRA and
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  we visited Luke and we played a game that I would like to discuss briefly
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  okay it's called put your keys in the bowl and everyone goes home with a
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  stranger it's called drawful oh God that was a fun game it's
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  by the people who make you don't know
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  Jack that quiz game mhm mhm and it's uh
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  it's basically uh we had like five people playing you you start out and you
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  name yourself and you draw a little picture of yourself and it goes on the
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  screen and then each you play on your moob on your phone or your tablet right
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  so the the um the Xbox will load up and it will say go to this URL and the room
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  code is this four-letter code so you on your phone you go to the website type in
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  the code and then you play the game on your phone looking at the screen yeah y
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  yeah it's cool and so you draw pictures on the phone right and so it'll come up
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  and it'll say something like um like what was one of the ones I got um a
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  booger with legs is one of the ones I got and um some of them some of them
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  it's it felt to me like I don't know if it's because we got drunker as it went
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  on but it felt to me like they got a lot harder uh I don't know some of them were
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  really easy and then others were I don't know what this is
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  technically boulder dash if anyone played that old board game I haven't but it might
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  be that sounds the same but with definitions of words and you you got to
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  guess what word means but you can also Bluff so that people pick yours yeah
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  yeah okay it is like that I guess except yeah you technically have no
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  confirmation of what it actually is right until the end anyway so yeah it's
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  pretty fun and um it was a great night we instead of going out cuzz we I plan
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  to take everyone out go into reload bar which is a computer game bar thing in
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  canra but we just started playing that started drinking and we did not want to
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  leave I should clarify I said it was pretty fun it's not pretty fun it's
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  awesome I realized I just I did not do it credit with pretty fun it's
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  great so um I mean it's part of a uh a
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  pack on the Xbox which uh what else is in that pack Luke uh fibbage which is
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  sort of the same game except it comes up with a um just comes up with the
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  question and then everyone has to try and write in an answer that they think
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  other people will guess yeah that was pretty good too that was a good game and
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  then there's oh just a normal Quiz Game Y which is up to four plays and then
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  there's a couple other games which I haven't really played when you're
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  drawing on your phon it's coming up on the TV screen is that what you mean
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  yeah no well it does but you submit it like you draw and then you submit it and
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  then it'll it'll dis like one after the other you kind of it'll pop one up and
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  then it'll say what is this and then everyone types A Thing unless you drew
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  it and then it yeah and then afterwards it'll display all the options and you
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  have to choose which one you think it is and the person who uh if if someone
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  picks your incorrect one you get some points but if you drew the picture and
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  they choose the right answer that means you drew well I guess so you get points
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  and they get slightly less points because obviously it would you know
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  because you want to win if you got it if you drew well so nice it's like the uh
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  when you come back to Australia we're playing it done done and done
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  well if it's mobile I'll just play it from here well we thought that maybe we
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  could play via Skype because you need to see the screen of the Xbox though yeah
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  right probably better in person I guess sure
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  y yeah sounds like the new age equivalent of playing charades after a
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  dinner party yeah probably true I it reminded me what it is it reminded me if
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  remember the game uh what was the the the Christian game we used to play oh
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  the wrath of God um I think it was just called the Old
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  Testament yeah okay I don't know remember chanting an Xbox game that was a Bible
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  quiz with side missions right yes and we used enter really offensive names for
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  our characters yeah you could be winning and then the wrath of God would just
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  send a plague to you and you would lose that's right that's that's real life
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  kids so we used to get drunk and play that a lot so good
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  God I miss getting drunk all the time and playing games with you guys a I know
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  it sounds like you guys are still and the other stuff well not very
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  often no is it the is time true it's probably the first time
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  we've done that in years last time we did it was probably uh Mario
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  party yeah yeah at Carl's house or something yeah well yesterday I went to
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  Universal Studios ah how is it over there great because you've been
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  to the one in La I have I've been to California and now I've been to the
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  Singapore one it's a lot newer uh so some of those can feel a
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  little dated whereas this one didn't have that dated feel that said it's not
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  nearly as big and it's not attached to a real studio right well neither is yeah
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  the one in um in Florida is not attached to the studio either so it's a bit it's
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  a bit different it's probably more like that but do you know how the one in tell
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  me if this is the same in Florida but in California you go on a tour and they
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  kind of point out the New York set for example yeah in this there's a section
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  of it that is New York and you walk through it and there's attractions
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  within that yes yeah it's more like that yeah yeah yeah uh it was great loved it
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  love that H day would have been worth it just for the Transformers ride
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  oh Transformers 3D when in America they were building that
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  at the Universal Studios over there so we didn't get to go on it I went on it
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  so good yeah I wonder you think it was as good as I think it was is it is it
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  the same where you kind of you get in a in like a fake car and it's uh I can't
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  remember why but um but I mean I I assume it's the same
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  it's hard to describe it's basically the Decepticons are trying to kill you and
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  and you trying not to die because well do anything you sit in the
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  car uh yeah this sounds slightly different but I'm sure it's the same
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  premise but it's basically one of those things that they developed in the '90s
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  where you you sit in a chair and happens around you but this is just the
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  absolute best version of that I've ever seen like you know you got picked up and
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  thrown and if if you didn't know you were in a chair you know you'd question
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  your own sanity like this was so well done now I didn't know the backstory of
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  it because I had the express pass so I skipped all the
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  cues I was going on all these rides and not actually knowing the backstory what
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  The Mummy ride and there's this mommy going give me the book and I'm
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  like I don't know what book and honestly I don't have the book man I've got no
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  idea what you're talking about yeah I like as well I mean this is
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  the same with all of those rides is you get to the end of the ride and Optimus
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  Prime is there like thank you you have helped save the world the world you're
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  an honor aut I didn't do anything I I just sat here in this car and tried not
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  to die yeah yeah I literally had a grin on my face the whole time though
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  yeah I'm looking forward cuz I'm going to go next year mhm over to the states
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  so I'll go I'll get finally get to go on that ride y they've got another new one
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  at uh oh the Harry Potter stuff at
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  um at at Florida not we've been on the you've been on some of the Harry Potter
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  stuff but not the new Harry Potter stuff well I'm looking forward to by the time
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  we go next year they will have uh Star Wars Land open hopefully hopefully
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  true at Disney mhm well they're just replacing future
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  land which was is that what they're doing tomorrow land they're just going to they're
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  replacing that tomorrow land felt like 5 years ago land I
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  know tomorrow land now like the house of tomorrow basically like you've got an
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  iPad and I'm like yeah I do have an iPad taking a photo with it now yeah I'm
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  filming you telling me about it on my iPad
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  yeah but uh so but they just made a movie about Tomorrowland like yeah does anyone know
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  even what that is no I just saw posters for it and I went a it looks like
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  something I don't want to care about yeah I haven't even heard of it
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  uh I might watch it for research if if the listeners want yeah look of all the
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  Disney movies coming out this year that's that's not even on my
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  radar I'm not even going to watch it even if even if the listeners want me to
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  no I heard it wasn't very good so told all
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  right well uh God what do we what do we want what do we want to dig into this
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  um did you guys hear about the crap happening at
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  Reddit probably not look uh I I I didn't and then I tried to read an article
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  about it and I didn't really understand much of what was going on Matt so why
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  don't you take us through it all right well if you're a fan of Reddit uh as a
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  lot of of people on the internet are uh you'll know that they have uh a section
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  called um I am um which is um
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  ask me anything I am so and so ask me anything orever the they ended up
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  with that specific URL but basically cele two dicks ask me anything yeah so
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  celebrities and and just people of Interest guys with two dicks go on there
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  and they go look I've got two dicks ask me some questions or ask me anything and
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  generally it's not anything it's almost anything because they won't answer
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  certain things but anyway people come on they ask a bunch of question about the
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  second dick Jesus yeah I just want to talk about my primary dick
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  um the to be fair I focus mostly on my primary
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  dick so that as as you can imagine on the internet that normally turns into a
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  huge cluster and apparently a big part of of managing all that uh was a
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  person called Victoria Taylor who worked for Reddit um uh based in New York she
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  was and well still is asan getting old
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  timey based in New York she was just I talk I don't know what you
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  mean anyway so the celebrities often would go
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  in to her office there uh and they would she would ask the questions they would
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  answer she would type because oh okay because uh for a number of reasons she's
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  a good typer she's good at I guess communicating with celebrities and
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  handling them because as as we've discussed certain celebrities can be a
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  handful so she apparently she was very good at all that stuff uh and also um she
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  had to verify that it was them because in the past uh they had people who were
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  not the celebrities doing amas and then the publicist for the for the celebrity
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  being like whoa whoa whoa shut that down
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  like that is not my client so um so
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  apparently she did she did a really really awesome job uh people were a huge
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  fan of her you know like just people users of the website in general were big
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  fans of her uh and she all also helped a lot of other moderators on Reddit um
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  look after their sections CU there's I mean if you don't know what Reddit is
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  it's kind of like this ridiculous online community where you can have a section
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  for anything and it's come under a lot
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  of flak uh for kind of allowing a lot of
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  stuff that's illegal or questionable or whatever because you really could just
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  go on there and start a uh a section of the website about anything like be it
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  you know um breakfast cereal or uh My
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  Little Pony or child pornography or you know anything
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  and uh and they they did shut down a lot of the the last thing that I mentioned
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  recently thank godh um but uh racism and bigotry and things uh it gets a lot of
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  flak for kind of allowing but people have made the argument well if you
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  censor it then off it's like it
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  on the internet put up with racism is something we have to do as a society and
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  the internet is no different yeah and it it loses its value if you just censor everything
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  so um anyway apparently she she helped out with a lot of other sections with
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  their moderation all that kind of stuff um and the other day uh she was fired
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  with no explanation uh apparently she doesn't
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  even really know why uh and Reddit did
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  not tell anybody about it uh she just
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  was not there anymore and so a lot of people were really confused and angry
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  about it in particular the other moderators on Reddit who um apparently
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  have been complaining that their job is very hard anyway um and so a lot of
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  really really popular subreddits uh just closed down they set themselves to
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  private and they said sorry we're shutting down
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  um in par well AMA shut down um and I
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  think there's a list on here of a lot of
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  the bigger ones um art ask Reddit books
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  gadgets gaming history AMA life Pro tips movies music videos jokes documentaries
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  listen to this data is beautiful whatever that is uh today I learned
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  which is a very big one um DIY and funny so and I'm sure a lot more but those are
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  all I mean they're pretty big sections read it and uh them shutting down
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  definitely would have a financial effect on the website so uh it's it's yeah kind
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  of a big deal for them and then um oh and also sorry um sex with bears was
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  another one that shut down that's all good but I think we've
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  skipped over the interesting part about this I know you said we don't know why
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  she was fired people don't just get fired no there's normally a reason
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  behind it um apparently okay there have been a lot of things put forward as to
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  why it might have been there was this that she did a there was an AMA with um
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  Reverend Jesse Jackson recently that went very very poorly because people
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  kept asking him a lot of sensitive questions that he refused to answer why you're such a
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  bigot basically all that kind of stuff and he just kept talking about how
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  difficult it was for him and that's happened before with other on
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  like Harrison Ford even just sort of ignored right direct questions right I think
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  it's is similar to um a recent
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  Twitter uh thing where the author of 50
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  Shades of Gray um they organized you could tweet questions on a hashtag and
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  then basically everybody tweeted oh you know have you ever heard of consent um
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  you know how do you yeah how do you feel about uh you know victims of sexual
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  abuse this kind of stuff and it kind of just turned to but really at the
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  end of it that she can't be responsible for his answers no that's right and so
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  they've said no no no it wasn't because of that that was that was an absolute
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  fest yeah poor choice of words I guess
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  um but um but that didn't go very well um but that had nothing to do with it
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  and so somebody else suggested Reddit had said they wanted all employees to
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  relocate to San Francisco uh and she refused Apparently that is also not the
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  case um and now apparently um somebody
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  who works at Reddit said management was pushing her to do very commercial things
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  with the amas that she didn't want to do because she didn't think the Reddit
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  Community wanted them for example they wanted video amas and she said no people
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  don't want that they want what we have and they said um given her resistance to
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  all their ideas they eliminated her position and let her go well if that's
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  the case that sounds 100% valid yeah yeah well I don't know if it's I
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  don't know if it's true gave direct instructions and you ignored them yeah
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  well apparently yeah she she disagreed with them on a lot of things and
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  generally there were things related to them wanting to make more money so so
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  they fired her which makes sense for them I mean that's that's kind of how the world
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  works yeah I've got less sympathy for it if it's something like that well I also
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  go to work tomorrow and I was told hey guys we're moving buildings yes and I
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  went no I like my desk I'm not moving ex and I didn't move they would let me go
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  yeah probably well I mean they alternatively if they came in and said
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  look we're taking these things in a New Direction here and you your new
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  prerogatives and you said no I'm going to keep doing it the old way and I
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  refuse to uh progress then likewise I would let you go as well yeah so if it's
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  true I mean it's it's obviously more complicated than they just got rid of
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  get rid of her for no reason so but now this is all sort of theory about
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  why has she come out and said anything she said she doesn't really know she was
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  just told that she's not required anymore right for a second yeah that
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  might that might not be true so you know what you did should ask know what you
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  did so anyway the the the the the result of all this was that all these reddits
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  shut down um because they said it's not just about that it's also about the fact
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  that we've been complaining for ages that it's really hard to to re
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  in the chaos that is the internet and and the management has not been doing
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  anything about it um they just keep trying to make more money as I guess you
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  know and and ignoring and ignoring and ignoring the fact that everybody's jobs
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  just keep getting harder so uh but to me it's not the business's fault that the
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  job's getting harder it's people on the internet are dicks that's probably very
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  true so I don't know yeah I don't know I don't know how this is going to get
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  fixed I'll be honest cuz it sounds like I mean and also I don't also don't
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  really understand it either because I don't know what their job is moderators
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  I kind of do I can imagine that it's involves making sure people aren't
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  posting pics of you know people animals and stuff on the on there all
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  the time like amongst a lot of other things don't you sensor me Matt don't
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  you dare sensor me I did I didn't I didn't list your subreddit Dan I made I
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  know I know you like to keep it off the podcast so Fox
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  animals.com I have to register another domain just go to Dan naked.com we're
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  going to change the picture we need to update the picture we do Dan naked.com
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  I'm serious listeners go to Dan see what happened just say Matt I said we need to
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  update it you said okay we do and you're going to do it as opposed to
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  uh Victoria Taylor who would have said no fine the way it is so you're implying
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  that you're in charge here and and you would fire me if I was to not do
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  it look all I'm saying is look what happened to Victoria
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  taylored her notice she's not on the podcast anymore Matt I my case that's
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  true she's never been on previously but matter it's not
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  point yeah you no fair point uh but again that it could all be untrue anyway
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  we don't really know but reddits as far as I'm aware still all up and
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  weird it's I mean it's definitely costing the money to have all this m uh
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  stuff shut down sh going it's interesting yeah so anyway I'm sure if
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  you're a a a Reddit user you know about it already so um and if you have any
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  more information RIT once well I don't know what it is I definitely like I
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  check Reddit uh you know a couple of times a day because there is interesting
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  stuff on there it's kind of like a filter for all the um you know this if I
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  if I I just check my RSS feeds there's a lot of stuff in there I'm not interested
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  in whereas if I go on Reddit then it's if it's been voted up to the point that
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  I can see it on the front page it's probably interesting you know
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  interesting I've gone to redit twice ever once for serial
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  spoilers and once for the AMA with a guy with the two
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  dicks right they're the two times well that was that was third times I went
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  when Joe Dante did a AMA as well oh yeah okay well yeah I've seen a few of them
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  on there Jeff Goblin did one a little while ago that was good um who else I
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  mean lots of people have done them it's uh it's been pretty cool so yeah it'll
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  be interesting to see how they handle it this will go away in a week you're
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  probably right yeah yeah one way or another yeah the internet forgets
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  quickly yeah it does and then they remember and everyone remembers together
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  and then they forget again yeah I'm trying to remember what they oh hatred
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  though have pissed off for about a little while ago
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  and um oh and that um that role playing game that was set in historical Bulgaria
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  and didn't include black people um they they were mad they were mad about that
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  for a while yeah and oh and Mad Max being feminist they were mad about that
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  for a while yeah yeah anyway and then nothing changes and
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  then they forget exactly jump on another bandwagon and
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  then they'll use that as an example of something in about a year's time and
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  then they'll forget exactly Go internet woo I'm a little
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  high I'm sorry what you're
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  high oh I had some painkillers right all right oh we yeah
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  we made you walk around a lot this weekend I'm sure yeah that wasn't good for your
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  leg that's why yeah painkillers all prescription All Above boards okay yeah
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  yeah we know we know well the okay the listeners maybe don't yeah yeah call the cop
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  in Italy so do you want to talk about
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  Michael Jackson um any Michael Jackson news are we don't get much Michael
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  Jackson news anymore there's not a lot of Michael Jackson news but I I think we
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  should have a jingle for it for when it does come all right what what are the uh
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  what's the creative brief for the for the Michael Jackson jingle you would
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  like I like it Thriller oh Thriller all
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  right that's it and it has to incl well if it's Thriller it has to include a
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  little bit of the wacko Jacko voice in there but also a little bit of the
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  Vincent Price narration all right all right I like it I like it all right cool
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  uh that's probably going to sound a little something like [Music]
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  this now it's time for all the latest
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  news regarding the world's most famous
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  [Laughter]
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  babysitter I miss him I miss I miss both of them yeah I miss Vincent Price a bit
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  more but uh I I guess I miss Michael Jackson as well cuz he was Enter he was
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  he was entertaining on on several levels and I mean Vince Price or Michael
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  Jackson Michael Jackson yeah yeah for sure I do love it how he kind of became
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  a Marty after he died like and I was working I'm working at the Record Shop
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  when he died I think I was but it's it's that phenomenon of everyone going a it's
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  a dirty pedophile and then the day he dies he was a musical genius and he
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  represented us all with his songs right yeah I mean I don't we might have
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  discussed this before but obviously there things he did that you know
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  weren't right allegedly allegedly did that weren't right right but on the
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  other hand he lived a very very different life to anybody else in the
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  world so I mean you didn't meet Michael
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  Jackson did you no I never met him I'm only asking because Luke is the kind of
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  kid Michael Jackson would have wanted to meet yeah no you know what I mean like
• 27:48
  if Luke said I've met Michael Jackson we wouldn't go what how we'd go oh yeah
• 27:54
  because you were 10 right around the fact right around the time he was well
• 27:58
  into 10 year olds yeah and you had cancer like and cancer and so I think if
• 28:04
  you ever had to come to Australia around that time I probably would have met him
• 28:07
  yeah wow yeah you definitely would have so you could have been involved in that
• 28:10
  whole lwuit yeah he would have you and you would have been like having
• 28:14
  to describe his penis to the police and and on this podcast right
• 28:19
  right now yeah all right well what else did he do
• 28:26
  well Michael Jackson's in the news this week uh Russell
• 28:30
  Crow actor Russell Crow has come out and said that Michael Jackson used to prank
• 28:36
  call him for years what yeah two or
• 28:41
  three years he says I never met him never shook his hand but he found
• 28:46
  out the name I stayed in hotels under so it didn't matter where I was he'd ring
• 28:51
  up and do this kind of thing like you did when you were
• 28:54
  10 which is just weird I mean here's what he'd say he me and in a strong
• 28:59
  voice he'd say there's an emergency and you need to leave the building and he'd
• 29:04
  say who is this and he'd say oh not to worry just kidding it's Michael now
• 29:10
  that's weird right that's weird yeah that's that's weird there's
• 29:15
  another one where he said it it was and
• 29:18
  I just love how like childish this is is
• 29:22
  Mr wall there is Mrs wall there are there any walls there well then what's
• 29:27
  holding up the roof the only problem I have with all of this
• 29:33
  MH is he said this went on for two or three years just change the name you
• 29:37
  stay under in hotels it goes away yeah fair enough yeah but if you've got a
• 29:43
  really good name that you stay under like for example I've got a really good
• 29:47
  password that I like to use and occasionally some website or something
• 29:51
  will make me change it and I will get so irritated because I don't want to change
• 29:57
  it I like my password well you realize that's for your benefit that they ask
• 30:03
  you to do that yeah yeah I do but having a good passw is also for my
• 30:09
  benefit well uh I mean I don't want to I don't want you to say what it is but how
• 30:13
  do you define a good password cuz I think what you think of as a good
• 30:17
  password might not be what is actually a good password to have something that I
• 30:21
  can remember even when I've changed it that's that's what I want because I
• 30:26
  don't want like apple needs me to sign in no that's not your password remember
• 30:30
  you changed it and when we asked you to change it you were out somewhere and you
• 30:33
  just came up with something on the top of your head and now you can't remember
• 30:36
  what it is that's why you use a password manager well that's why I use a password
• 30:42
  manager Matt do you want to be my password manager I can't believe out of all the
• 30:48
  jobs that's a job and that you've employed someone to be that not you're just a cultural
• 30:53
  imperialist man yeah what happens if you forget your password to the manager
• 30:58
  well you just don't you have to make sure that your master password yeah
• 31:01
  that's what it's called it's called a master password no you're the master and
• 31:05
  he's the manager you got to make sure it's a strong password that you won't
• 31:09
  forget and in fact you can the best thing to do is to write down that
• 31:13
  password and put it somewhere because it's actually better like literally
• 31:17
  better for you to have a really strong password written down and stuck to a
• 31:22
  Post-It note on the screen in front of you then to have the password be your
• 31:26
  middle name or some thing that thatone on the internet could literally guess
• 31:31
  yeah chances AR sitting next to you looking at your screen that's right so
• 31:36
  if if if if it's something that you can't remember that might be better as
• 31:41
  long as you can write it down so long as you have some way to
• 31:45
  recall it right exactly yeah yeah so I I I use soft I use software for that but
• 31:52
  yeah you got a little Indian boy doing it for you don't
• 31:55
  you little s hurry Sanic does so much for us do we have a jingle for my Indian
• 32:02
  password manager yes we do Matt I will remember your passwords for you Indian
• 32:09
  password manager.com I have no idea what I'm going to do for that but that's what it
• 32:15
  was nice um you know I actually met someone called Sanji did you yes I did his last name
• 32:22
  was not MCU it was something slightly less Scottish but yeah I was going to
• 32:28
  say I don't think anyone from India's name is McCurry if you're one of our Indian
• 32:34
  listeners and your last name is McCurry right in for a special
• 32:38
  prize the only Ginger Indian that sounds like a movie that
• 32:44
  should really exist do we have an Indi oh we maybe we should play the Indian
• 32:48
  news jingle as well oh man you are you've got a busy weekend coming up no
• 32:51
  no we've already got an Indian news what
• 32:58
  W welcome to Indian news that's right no
• 33:02
  no no it's India India the country I'm sanjit marari and this is
• 33:09
  India news that is the Indian news how did you get a genuine Indian to do the voice for
• 33:16
  that map well I just asked my password
• 33:20
  [Laughter] manager you know I actually I met
• 33:27
  somebody not an Indian but a Filipino person down in Philippines where they
• 33:31
  also have centers uhuh
• 33:36
  who had to go to American accent
• 33:41
  training so that they could pretend they were in America and not being
• 33:45
  outsourced to a call center in Manila wow
• 33:50
  yeah well I mean they don't do the best job no offense to them because I mean
• 33:56
  you know they it's ridiculous that they why why are
• 34:00
  they bother trying to pretend yeah yeah like it's obvious what happens is no the
• 34:06
  reason why they do try to pretend is um some people will just straight away go I
• 34:10
  want to complain yeah about about your
• 34:14
  accent yeah no he's right they do yep fair enough they hear an accent they go
• 34:19
  I don't want to talk to you I want to talk to someone else even though that
• 34:22
  person on the phone can probably help you yeah might be an everything you need
• 34:27
  because the person you transferred to is a Filipino guy doing an accent yeah
• 34:31
  that's right howdy partner I heard you got a complain and the thing about normally
• 34:37
  the person you get transferred to they don't normally have the technical
• 34:41
  knowledge they have the manager the manager so they can handle a complaint
• 34:45
  and go yes I understand yes yes yes and then they're going to give it back to
• 34:49
  the same person to fix it for you reached San McCurry and I I can't really
• 34:53
  help you with this yeah that's fine yeah I'll beat I'll make sure he's beaten
• 34:58
  tonight yeah I used to work at a call center if you can't guess uh I did too
• 35:02
  actually for a short while I didn't have to learn an accent the the irony was
• 35:07
  that you worked in call centers in Australia filtering calls from India and
• 35:10
  you had to uh pretend you were Indian which is why Matt you do such a good
• 35:13
  Indian accent now that's true that is
• 35:18
  true yeah otherwise they' complain and I'd have to put them on sun okay so I
• 35:23
  hear you've got a trouble with your unflushable toilet oh you became a
• 35:28
  robot that wasn't a robot that was that was me trying to do an Indian
• 35:33
  accent hello I'm still a robot aren't I oh this is you're a little bit
• 35:37
  of robot it's not too bad it is for me maybe it's maybe it's my
• 35:42
  connection no no he definitely is a robot but whoa whoa yeah I'm definitely
• 35:47
  am I still a robot didn't you know I'm finding out a lot of on this
• 35:52
  podcast about myself while we're waiting for it to come back in TV I just put my
• 35:56
  new wheelchair in all right I'm going have a look at it
• 36:01
  I'm going to I'm going to out bid you it usually fixes it that's a good
• 36:06
  wheelchair he yeah cool no bits so yeah everyone's just watching where is
• 36:13
  it it's a 4 and 1 half hour drive away for me to pick it up so I'm going to
• 36:17
  have a very long weekend s is there a certain irony in the fact that you have
• 36:20
  to go and pick up a wheelchair clearly I'm still a robot cuz
• 36:26
  that was hilarious can't hear understand a word you're
• 36:30
  saying at the moment sorry me either okay I've got to I'm just looking at my
• 36:35
  Skype I've got a request from Doodlebug miss4 she'd like to add me as a contact
• 36:40
  I add her immediately I don't think I don't think that's Dan that's
• 36:45
  Dan I mean I wouldn't think so you guys are just going to have to translate my
• 36:51
  texts the rest of the podcast Dan's going to do the rest of
• 36:55
  the podcast via text
• 37:00
  he says he's typing no he stopped typing no he's typing do we want to maybe end
• 37:05
  the phone call try it again give it a couple of minutes all right thank God Dan he fell
• 37:12
  off the internet for a bit there yeah I really did maybe I I don't mean to sound
• 37:19
  melodramatic but that was the scariest thing that's ever happened to me like
• 37:24
  just the fact that like you guys couldn't hear me or like I had no way of
• 37:28
  like even saying to you like go on without me because nothing seem to work
• 37:32
  for a bit I was like totally cut off well just so you know we were prepared
• 37:37
  to go on without you yes yeah well that's good I'm glad I'm glad you you
• 37:41
  know were willing to go do that contingency a lot of people go with the
• 37:45
  whole no Leave No Man Behind we'll leave you behind yeah yeah yeah we figured
• 37:50
  even look back we thought maybe Singapore sank or something I mean I
• 37:54
  don't know a whole lot about Singapore I'll be honest is that it is an island
• 37:57
  so I mean it could sink I mean we all know what happened to uh Atlantis
• 38:02
  Atlantis yeah is it a is it ahead of it time in the world is it a futuristic
• 38:07
  city of of Hope and opportunity that that might become a bit uh big too big
• 38:12
  for its britches and sink into the ocean as your joke but it kind of is a bit
• 38:17
  like that so um yeah you know all
• 38:22
  right now if I sound different it's because I'm no longer in a little quiet
• 38:26
  room anymore so so I'm out in the big room and there are things that make
• 38:29
  noise here so I apologize if my audio suddenly sounds all right there's things that make
• 38:36
  noise are singaporeans Dan is that what you call them speaking
• 38:41
  of which yes they're singaporeans yeah okay cool they want to be racist I
• 38:45
  thought I thought you meant to you call them [Laughter]
• 38:51
  things um can I move on to something speaking of
• 38:55
  singaporeans um So I listened to your podcast from two
• 39:02
  weeks ago that I was not present for um and enjoyed it immensely as I always do
• 39:07
  when I've missed out on one and I listen to it back uh and I was I was
• 39:11
  particularly interested uh when you guys started talking about the book at tea
• 39:15
  monkey man right oh yeah because obviously book at tea monkey man are a
• 39:19
  real problem over here you know like in in our daily [Music]
• 39:26
  lives but you remember how uh a few weeks ago
• 39:32
  Matt you played us an episode of Terry small shoes new TV show Sasquatch
• 39:38
  watch well I was flicking through channels here the other night and really
• 39:44
  late at night just flicking through the local channels and I I noticed that
• 39:48
  they've actually got a show here that's very similar to Sasquatch watch really
• 39:54
  yeah and I I taped a bit of it um because I thought you guys might might
• 39:58
  want to have a a bit of a sample of it yeah all right Matt I've given you the
• 40:03
  link there is that something you can play for us now yeah yeah I'll queue it
• 40:07
  up right now just a sec hello and welcome to this week's
• 40:14
  episode of Sasquatch watch Asia I'm your host fam Sasquatch Hunter Lee
• 40:20
  smallo on tonight's episode I'll hit deep into the jungles of buet tea where
• 40:26
  I'll attempt to look K trapped and eventually killed the fame bookie teer
• 40:30
  monkey man Singapore's very own s Squatch Lee boards the train in
• 40:37
  Singapore's Central District and prepares to embark on the grueling
• 40:40
  15minute journey into the Heartland dark jungles of booket tea booket tea isn't
• 40:46
  so much a jungle as it once was in fact it's mostly private housing businesses
• 40:52
  and eateries but in the 1.6 square kilm of remaining rough lens there have been
• 40:58
  several sightings of the legendary monkey man so far only about 100% of
• 41:03
  those sightings have proven to be false monkeys common in the region and
• 41:08
  not the monkey man itself the facts don't lie except when they do ticket
• 41:14
  what oh want to book tea please what
• 41:17
  about those guys who film CA Oh dma uh
• 41:22
  can we get a family real pass the crew pulled together their money the between
• 41:27
  could only collect about half the fair needed to take the entire unit all the
• 41:30
  way to book at tea yeah it's a bit of a setback but there's always research to
• 41:35
  be done so I'm going to head back to my parents basement where I work and live
• 41:40
  and live and we'll regroup from there without even a basic Transportation
• 41:44
  budget Lee doubts if the money he raised from Kickstarter is really enough to
• 41:48
  fund the entire 12-part series as he left the station he Amed to himself how
• 41:53
  he wasn't even sure how he was going to pay the voiceover artist for what oh
• 42:00
  [Applause] this startlingly similar as you can see
• 42:05
  that's amazing well I mean it's got a lower budget obviously than Terry does for some some
• 42:11
  somehow Terry makes it to the pigga scrub every week for the episode right
• 42:16
  right well he's uh he he's managed to somehow pull together the funding to get
• 42:20
  over to the himas so yeah oh wow yeah I mean I don't want to say too much but I
• 42:26
  think he said he's going to try and get me some of the some of the footage to um
• 42:30
  to if we could air it on this podcast before it goes to TV that would be a
• 42:34
  real Bo you yeah four for both of us because you know our listeners are are
• 42:40
  his fans as well I think yeah so that's right yeah so we'll see yeah so I I
• 42:46
  don't know if there's any legal problems with us playing uh a clip from Sasquatch
• 42:51
  watch Asia uh I assume it's fine I assume yeah I assume our lawyers go over
• 42:56
  everything that we put on this podcast yep so y yeah unfortunately it's after
• 43:03
  it's got out into the world yeah generally
• 43:08
  speaking uh well we were going to talk uh when we didn't think you were
• 43:13
  available on the internet anymore we're going to talk briefly about some uh some
• 43:17
  game stuff did you want to do you want to take us through that Luke well um
• 43:22
  destiny was a game that Bungie released that was meant to be this great game
• 43:26
  that everyone's going to love I didn't enjoy it okay mhm I found it very boring
• 43:30
  what might have made it a bit more interesting for me is if they had a
• 43:34
  writer from say arrest development working on it okay that seems totally
• 43:40
  implausible Luke why would they possibly do that I don't know but but this is
• 43:45
  actually something they did they went out they hired David Cross to come out and write
• 43:51
  jokes I I see and they're actually just punch it up and make it a bit bit of fun
• 43:57
  they were going to do they were going to yeah fix up the dialogue for um dinky's
• 44:02
  character Peter dinklage's character yeah wait they were going to get David
• 44:05
  Cross to write lines for Peter Dinklage yeah
• 44:10
  wow but the weird thing is they hiired him flew him out got him to write all
• 44:16
  the stuff and they used nothing interesting yeah but I can just imagine
• 44:20
  the kind of jokes that he would have written like if it's what I'm imagining
• 44:25
  they probably couldn't use any of it yeah censorship I mean right but I might
• 44:31
  have made that game a bit more interesting for me because all D really
• 44:34
  did in that game was go here kill that yeah his delivery I mean I don't know if
• 44:39
  it's his fault or whoever was giving him the the lines to read but it's
• 44:42
  very flat and you know like not very interesting
• 44:47
  so I don't know cuz Destiny wasn't really it wasn't a funny game it wasn't a fun
• 44:54
  game well I enjoyed the time that I they played it but as as was pointed out to
• 45:00
  me when I just we BR uh brought this up earlier in the weekend I I did stop
• 45:04
  playing it a long time ago so um and and not that it's not that I got sick of it
• 45:11
  or anything like that it's I stopped playing it because I didn't have time
• 45:13
  and then just never thought of it again yeah do people still play it is it still
• 45:18
  out there oh it's still a very big thing they just even release some more DLC for
• 45:23
  it and but it's a t it's it's an MMO
• 45:28
  yeah you go out and then you do the same Mission over and over and over to get
• 45:32
  better gear to level up to go do another mission yeah yeah and that's not for me
• 45:37
  it's for some people yeah it might have been fun if we
• 45:41
  were playing together but we don't true but yeah um I I think I'm if they did
• 45:47
  have this bit of human in it I might have stayed with it a bit longer than what I did
• 45:53
  yeah yeah well yeah especially I mean I mean David Cross is a funny guy so yeah
• 45:59
  and uh he and Brian Pon as well apparently they got out that's such a so
• 46:03
  strange why wouldn't they use any of the material I assume they paid
• 46:08
  him well assuming cuz I assume this is one of those things where at kind of a
• 46:14
  lower level it sounded like a good idea and then when it went to Upper manag Li
• 46:18
  they were like no way
• 46:21
  no yeah maybe well like playing the
• 46:25
  game yeah I can't imagine his him having jokes in there yeah with what I played
• 46:31
  of it yeah maybe that's what they're like ah I mean it's funny but everything
• 46:35
  else in this game is so uninteresting it just doesn't work it just stands out as
• 46:41
  being good and we don't want that here that's right oh and this is some
• 46:47
  other news that sort of came out this week Peter Mo who uh used to be the
• 46:52
  former Xbox boss he sort of come out to talk about remember we we all had that
• 46:56
  big red ring of death with the Xbox 360 yeah oh yes yes come out given a bit of
• 47:02
  an interview about that and what they went through when they found that out
• 47:06
  cuz they didn't release that on purpose well you I wouldn't have thought so no
• 47:11
  that's the type of thing that you don't want out there you mean they weren't
• 47:14
  just with me specifically that's good to know cuz I went through about three Xbox
• 47:21
  360s before I finally got one that just worked I eventually eventually
• 47:28
  had to throw out my Xbox 360 because it it red ringed so many times and they
• 47:33
  they eventually said nah sorry and I just had to buy another one yeah like
• 47:38
  that's what happened with me too yeah yeah cuz I think they were very good
• 47:42
  like they did replace it for a year or two and then they finally went no yeah
• 47:47
  yeah right which you can sort of understand especially when it cost them 1.15
• 47:53
  billion wow to fix this yeah
• 47:58
  that's taking everyone's back shipping
• 48:01
  fixing them returning them well just I
• 48:05
  mean yeah sorry but that's what happens when you really when your product
• 48:10
  doesn't work properly I mean I'm sure I know that they didn't do it on purpose but I
• 48:14
  mean that's that's just how it is like if you release a product and it
• 48:21
  doesn't work properly you have to have to pay for it to be
• 48:24
  fixed yeah essentially how it works you know that's how it should work I
• 48:31
  think but he he goes on and just explains like cuz he had to go in and
• 48:35
  talk to the head of Microsoft at time Steve bulmer and go this has happened
• 48:40
  yeah a bit of a problem and basically if
• 48:44
  we don't fix this the brand is dead yeah and then he's gone so how much will it
• 48:51
  be he's gone bit over a billion dollars and he's just going to fix
• 48:55
  it like no hesitation no anything just
• 49:00
  fix it cuz yeah if they didn't fix this we wouldn't be playing an Xbox one today
• 49:05
  no no but I just thought that was quite interesting definitely I also I remember
• 49:11
  um they mentioned at the top here uh all the various fixes that people put online
• 49:16
  you know wrapping towels around the Xbox and letting it overheat um that would
• 49:22
  yeah you know then suddenly it would work again all that kind of stuff I remember all that
• 49:25
  stuff such a strange who comes up with an IDE honest I think that I think that
• 49:30
  did work for me for a little while rapper wet tail yeah right yeah I did
• 49:34
  try that and it and it did start working again for a short
• 49:39
  time but I'm sorry with something breaks I don't think I'm going to wrap a wet
• 49:43
  towel around it and turn it back on well some thankfully the internet is there to
• 49:49
  sort these things out for you Luke so somebody did have that idea so
• 49:53
  somebody's who just puts wet tails on everything accidentally put one on a red ringed
• 50:00
  Xbox so the internet also tells people
• 50:03
  to put iPhones in water yeah that was
• 50:08
  funny that was very funny
• 50:12
  idiots oh dear well uh one amusing
• 50:17
  gaming story I read this week was about
• 50:21
  um players in a game called Arc survival evolved which is a dinosaur hunting game
• 50:27
  it's like an MMO sort of thing I believe well it's more like Minecraft I think
• 50:32
  you can ride a dinosaur yeah it's like sorry it's like Day Z and rust and all
• 50:36
  that kind of stuff but with Dinosaurs so it's a survival game you jump on and
• 50:39
  everybody's kind of trying to survive in this world and everybody each
• 50:42
  other over CU that's how these games end up working mhm yeah so there was a
• 50:49
  player uh barbaric seagull no sorry barbaric seagull is the person who did
• 50:55
  this there was a troll uh
• 51:00
  Ricky his name was Ricky uhuh yeah um and he was he was very well known in the
• 51:05
  game for being a dick and everyone kind of got sick of him and so as a part of
• 51:10
  the mechanic in this game you you can be knocked unconscious right yeah but um
• 51:16
  like you don't die to C raped well the way the mechanics in the game mine goes
• 51:23
  straight away they got they managed to this guy
• 51:27
  unconscious in game carry him to a uh a
• 51:32
  a cage that they had constructed put put him in it lock him
• 51:38
  in and then basically he'd wake up and they would beat him uh and then actually
• 51:44
  he he kept trying to kill himself by punching the wall so they would
• 51:47
  tranquilize him and then feed him um Health until his HP was full again and
• 51:53
  then just and then just left him in there like that wouldn't let him die
• 51:57
  exactly so um apparently it took 30 minutes for them to trap him after they
• 52:04
  uh they informed him that he'd been arrested and and put him in a cage wow
• 52:11
  uh and and yeah I don't know how long he was in there but he he is out now and
• 52:15
  apparently he has learned the error of his ways but I just thought this was
• 52:18
  awesome like yeah just due to the mechanics of the game they would um
• 52:22
  yeah they they tranquilized him carried him put him in the cage and then
• 52:25
  wouldn't let him kill him self so basically anytime he logged onto the
• 52:28
  game he was stuck in the cage what what game is it what online
• 52:34
  game where there is a prison and it's just an endless desert and you can just
• 52:38
  be sent there if you do bad you guys know what that is no must
• 52:44
  been cool one of the other nerd podcasts I uh listen [Music]
• 52:51
  to
• 52:54
  Desert game this dream that I just want
• 52:59
  to read this one comment a lot of people were thought this was funny and were
• 53:03
  like oh that'll teach him a lesson one person says this is a commenter on on I
• 53:07
  guess the article on the Forum you are beyond the worst scum in the game Mr
• 53:11
  seagull that's the guy who built the prison yeah like the absolute worst if
• 53:15
  the police actively held a man in a one by one by one prison repeatedly
• 53:19
  tranquilized him and force fed him blood for a reported 10 hours against his will
• 53:24
  and without trial then yes I would call them scum as well and kick them in the
• 53:29
  nuts the point stands you are effectively Banning this player for
• 53:32
  little more than ruining your pixels yeah but no not even gonna no no
• 53:39
  who cares it's hilarious and it's it's
• 53:43
  that's great yeah uh other hilarious
• 53:47
  rants on the internet include uh guy who hates
• 53:52
  CGI yeah and I I found this video quite entertaining yeah I wonder what you think of it
• 53:59
  because I I started to watch it and I kind of get what he's coming at but also
• 54:05
  I don't know look this this guy's basically come out and said movies are
• 54:10
  now and the reason they're is because CGI is getting better and I
• 54:16
  think what he's done is he's he's it's a confirmation bias you know what I mean
• 54:20
  he's noticed that movies are and CGI is getting better and he's right
• 54:26
  he's done what every great scientist would do in this situation and go on
• 54:29
  well there must be a correlation uh but there isn't is a very simple reason why
• 54:36
  movies are being watered down and it's because uh they need to uh appeal to
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  more people so right Studio movies are now going for the lowest common
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  denominator whereas once they used to kind of drive for a certain high
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  brownness that just doesn't exist in modern marketing so uh but he's got a
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  very very uh detailed I guess you'd say
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  um argument here where he Compares um there's a really great part in this
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  video where he compares the the old Hulk with the new Hulk and he says the old
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  Hulk is much better uh because it doesn't look as good as the new Hulk and
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  I put it to you number one that the new Hulk I actually thought was a lot better
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  than the old Hulk I'll say that um right but also my favorite quote from
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  um was um have a look at the frame on the left and the frame on the right
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  which one do you prefer it's actually the one on the left and I was like wait
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  a minute wait wait whoa whoa whoa yeah how is that quantifiable well his his his argument
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  was that uh in the shot on the left
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  which is from the the Eric Banner Hulk the the background behind the Hulk is
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  actual footage of a city I assume that it kind of looks like San Francisco to
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  me I don't know where it is it kind of looks like San Francisco to me but and
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  and that does appear to be true like it is actual footage and and the Hulk has
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  been been popped in there he CGI yeah and then the one on the right which
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  shows the Hulk uh in the Eric Norton Eric Norton Edward Norton I've combined
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  Eric banner and Edward Norton oh that's that's that's their son yeah
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  um you want to watch them ring that
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  in front of a live background Eric norton.com Eric norton.com I hope
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  there's something at Eric norton.com I can hear typing everyone's [Laughter]
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  checking all right we'll sort that out um the one on the right is the Edward
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  Norton Hulk and the background is prob well he doesn't really know burning City
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  yeah it's probably almost entirely CGI and he thinks that that your supension
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  of disbelief is better uh encouraged with the one on the left because it's
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  actually footage of a real thing and your brain knows even though he's
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  presented no scientific evidence for this not that but that's not what the
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  suspension of disbelief is the suspension of disbelief is knowing it's
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  fake and deciding to go with it right it's not tricking your brain into thinking it's
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  real right yeah so I mean I can see
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  there are there is there's some nuggets of of truth and and interesting
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  observations in the video but I think overall he's wrong yeah like it's as you
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  explain there there are a lot of reasons that films are arguably not as good now
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  um and it's I mean saying it's all because of CGI is just silly it's coming
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  down cuz the that's what the audience wants yeah and if a film like people
• 57:51
  someone in the comments and and and on YouTube and elsewhere have said oh for example
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  I think that the Lord of the Rings films were much better than The Hobbit films
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  because The Hobbit films used way more CGI and I'm like well I agree with that
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  but not because not just because they use CGI I think because the CGI was used
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  in stupid ways but not only that the Lord of the Rings films were much better
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  than The Hobbit films because there were much better
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  films take all the effects out there're still better movies well you take all
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  the effects out of the hob there's no film I haven't actually watched this but
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  just been streaming across in the background but he uses RoboCop as an
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  example of how movies gotten worse yeah that was just made for a different
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  audience yeah exactly right and all movies now are made from a different
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  audience than they used to be yeah yeah like the original robotex or Robo
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  Robotech RoboCop were R-rated lowbudget
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  movies yeah exactly and then the new one was made
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  for teenagers yeah yeah yeah well I I mean it was an
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  interesting video and like I said I did find some stuff in there that I was like
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  maybe I kind of agree with you there but overall I think he's
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  just just made some people lazier with making um what is it the that Facebook
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  movie yeah exactly right we discussed a few weeks ago where they just instead of
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  just making a sign that said where they were oh social network yeah yeah social
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  network cuz they in a different School they got CGI to replace all the name
• 59:29
  well one of the special effects in The Social Network cuz I mean there there
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  were like you said it's a ridiculous number of special effects in that movie
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  for what it was which is just a film with people talking a lot
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  almost and one of the special effects that people really really panned in it
• 59:41
  is there's a scene where um it's it's Mark Zuckerberg and um uh the other
• 59:48
  guy's name escapes me it doesn't matter they're outside talking it's very cold
• 59:51
  and the the the Mist like not Mist but you know the steam from you the
• 59:57
  breath yeah is ridiculous like it's
• 1:00:02
  really is and so but I mean and also because they were supposed to they're
• 1:00:06
  supposed to be in a film in Connecticut but they're actually shooting it in
• 1:00:09
  California where it's not cold so they put in some CGI Frosty breath but they
• 1:00:15
  could have just left it out and no one would have question because the actor's
• 1:00:17
  performance is actually pretty good in that in that scene like they look like
• 1:00:20
  they're cold but theous breath yeah so
• 1:00:25
  look I mean here the thing saying that movies are worse
• 1:00:29
  because of CGI is like saying that music is worse because of synthesizers you
• 1:00:35
  know what I mean like sure if you don't like that kind of music then yeah you'll
• 1:00:40
  think it's worse but it's not because of that it's because your taste is
• 1:00:43
  different yeah sure I agree and and yeah like he uses uh King Kong as an example
• 1:00:49
  of where uh the film see I'm not quite sure exactly what his point was the fact
• 1:00:55
  that that the actors were comped in on in front of fake backgrounds made the
• 1:00:59
  film bad like I I thought King The King Kong remake was pretty good personally
• 1:01:04
  so did I and not only that go back and watch the Old King Kong now right oh
• 1:01:09
  yeah right and you tell me if that still looks great because I'm telling
• 1:01:12
  you now it doesn't it looks like f Ray is in a huge mechanical hand that
• 1:01:17
  doesn't move right and then in the next
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  shot it's a like a stop motion doll
• 1:01:25
  right yeah yeah and then it's closeups out of context yeah it's so you're
• 1:01:30
  saying it so you're saying it looks like what it is exactly
• 1:01:34
  right yeah yeah well and that sort of
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  brings me to this next article yeah uh about CGI sort of Um Zack Snider has
• 1:01:46
  finally I guess responded to um criticisms about Man of Steel
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  where people said Superman wouldn't allow a city to be
• 1:01:56
  destroyed like like it did in the in the film cuz the whole point is that he's
• 1:02:01
  supposed to try and save people and a lot of people killed a lot of people
• 1:02:05
  yeah and so he's come out and said oh well I mean uh that I didn't think
• 1:02:10
  people would be annoyed about that uh and we address it in Batman versus
• 1:02:14
  Superman oh okay like apparently in Batman vers Superman uh the reason that
• 1:02:19
  lik Superman is because he destroyed a whole City and and and injured a
• 1:02:23
  bunch of people and in particular that's Batman's issue is with him so I mean and
• 1:02:28
  that's all well and good but that doesn't I mean I think he is he is kind
• 1:02:32
  of using that to avoid the greater issue which was that it wasn't a very good
• 1:02:36
  movie yeah well that's right like my issues with Man of Steel weren't just
• 1:02:42
  necessarily they destroyed the whole city it's just that that happening was
• 1:02:46
  boring yeah and I'll say by the time it got to that scene I was already well
• 1:02:51
  bored yeah I was so bored I haven't even
• 1:02:55
  watched it yet I think it's and like I we've talked about this
• 1:03:00
  before like I feel like the action in in Man of Steel was just so mind-numbing
• 1:03:05
  and ridiculous yeah like and and kind of I guess this relates to that guy's
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  article in that you they wouldn't have made a movie like this without the CGI
• 1:03:16
  because they would have been able to because you couldn't right and and my
• 1:03:19
  suspension of disbelief just wasn't having it CU it was just ridiculous yeah
• 1:03:24
  but that on every level to I mean in the the first scene of the first Christopher
• 1:03:30
  ree Richard Donna Superman movie right
• 1:03:33
  where um jorel is putting Kalel in the craft and sending him to Earth and it's
• 1:03:40
  this beautiful poetic scene and it goes for about 4 minutes and in this one it's
• 1:03:46
  Russell Crow instead of mar and Brando it goes for 25 to 30 minutes and he's
• 1:03:50
  riding the dragon and kicking ass and it's like that is not more interesting
• 1:03:55
  that is way less interesting I know why you think it's more interesting but
• 1:03:59
  you're wrong yeah yeah well I mean I think there are some people who think
• 1:04:04
  it's more interesting and maybe there were I mean clearly there were enough of
• 1:04:07
  them that made enough money that it's fine but for us and I I absolutely agree
• 1:04:12
  with you the the scene from the original is so memorable yeah and to be honest I
• 1:04:18
  I mean I remember bits about the the new the Man of Steel intro and I remember
• 1:04:22
  that looked cool at first but then I was like oh man
• 1:04:27
  like just nobody's in any danger when when all that shit's going on like it's
• 1:04:32
  like the bigger issue with with the ending where the whole city got
• 1:04:35
  destroyed and we just never saw the fact that these people were dying was just
• 1:04:39
  that it it's meaningless like Superman knocks down a
• 1:04:45
  skyscraper right but if we don't see or know that there's people in there even
• 1:04:49
  though we do because people said afterwards of course they were full of
• 1:04:51
  people they killed those people yeah but we didn't see any of that so it's like
• 1:04:55
  it's like there's no no one's in any danger it's not interesting or or tense
• 1:05:00
  or anything it's a it's a guy who can't die punching another guy who can't die
• 1:05:05
  like I don't know that's why I'm I'm not a fan of Superman mainly because of that
• 1:05:12
  well I mean his the best argument for that would be well that's Superman and I
• 1:05:17
  would say yeah okay fair enough like you did what you could Superman's
• 1:05:20
  boring yeah well he is a little bit he he is a bit boring yeah
• 1:05:26
  he can do everything and he can't die you know who's not boring though Batman
• 1:05:31
  and now they're combining the two and did you guys know this because I don't
• 1:05:34
  think we've discussed this on the podcast right but you know Batman v
• 1:05:37
  Superman's coming out right yeah yeah yep if that does well at the box office
• 1:05:43
  and I'm sure it will then they've already pre greenit
• 1:05:49
  the new Batman Solo movie Next it's called the Batman
• 1:05:56
  and it's going to be directed by Ben
• 1:06:01
  Affleck ah um but I I find that kind of interesting because the other two movies
• 1:06:07
  that Ben affect has directed uh the town
• 1:06:10
  and Argo we're both really good
• 1:06:14
  yeah H okay this great movie
• 1:06:21
  interesting well they're going cuz they want to do Justice League yes I think I
• 1:06:26
  I think Studios want to do justice league and they're obviously moving
• 1:06:29
  towards that by doing their own thing basically they want a Marvel Universe
• 1:06:33
  with the DC cast yeah right oh but but I have a feeling that Ben Affleck signed
• 1:06:38
  on to do Zack cider's shitty Batman v Superman because he's got a vision of
• 1:06:44
  how he wants to do his own Batman well look I'll say this uh I haven't what's
• 1:06:49
  the other one you mentioned that he direct okay I haven't seen the town I've
• 1:06:52
  seen Argo and yeah that was really good but it was not one of these films it was
• 1:06:57
  definitely not like Man of Steel or or like I think they're moving away from Man of
• 1:07:04
  Steel I don't know that's I don't know I just a feeling I get they're going more
• 1:07:10
  from a movie I haven't seen I think they're basically starting fresh with Superman V
• 1:07:16
  Batman well they that's going to be the start of their Universe well the problem
• 1:07:20
  with that is from from the article that I've put in here the the plot of versus
• 1:07:26
  Superman heavily heavily relies on what happened in is that Batman's pissed off
• 1:07:30
  and comes and tells Superman to go back to his own country right because one of
• 1:07:34
  the buildings that was destroyed in in Man of Steel was a was a Wayne
• 1:07:39
  Enterprises building and he knew people who work there and they're dead now wait
• 1:07:43
  a minute wait a minute so it's personal it's not just that he's morally against
• 1:07:47
  it yes well that's even more
• 1:07:51
  that's what Ben Affleck said uh hang on a minute where is the
• 1:07:56
  quote one of the okay this Ben affle one of the things I liked about Zach's idea
• 1:08:01
  of showing accountability and the consequences of violence and seeing that
• 1:08:03
  there are real people in those buildings and in fact one of those buildings was
• 1:08:07
  Bruce Wayne's building so he knew people who died in that black zero event is
• 1:08:11
  what they call it right black zero yeah I don't know
• 1:08:17
  man look I'm still going to watch it yeah there's no way I'm not going to
• 1:08:22
  watch it I'm probably this is where I'm going to start watching
• 1:08:26
  super I haven't seen a Superman movie since Christopher
• 1:08:29
  Reef yeah well you haven't missed a lot that's what I've heard but this time
• 1:08:36
  I might go back cuz I I do like Batman probably the only character I
• 1:08:41
  like out of the DC Universe so this might be might be stepping stone to May
• 1:08:46
  getting into you'll be eating your words when the Martian Manhunter movie comes [Laughter]
• 1:08:52
  out cuz they're like I play all the Lego games and I've played Lego Batman games
• 1:08:56
  and a lot of the characters in there I'm just I have no connection to these
• 1:09:02
  characters yeah Batman's The Riddler
• 1:09:09
  yeah although I am thinking about dressing as the Riddler for packs this
• 1:09:13
  year oh please do that would be awesome the 1960s Riddler do it in the in the
• 1:09:18
  onesie in the onesie onesie I love it I watched the uh
• 1:09:24
  please do that please I beg you do that it may happen I
• 1:09:28
  don't want to commit to anything just yet well you just did live on this
• 1:09:33
  podcast that's pre-recorded I will be the Riddler at packs nice yes I do
• 1:09:38
  love I watched the old film the uh the Batman movie from the 60s recently and
• 1:09:44
  Riddler is wearing like a green suit and he's looking pretty sharp and then he
• 1:09:50
  goes to the lair and puts on the onesie look like his house clothes yeah
• 1:09:57
  right casual what I'm so fixated about that movie and about the old series that
• 1:10:01
  I just never noticed when I was a kid is I just can't stop looking at Caesar
• 1:10:07
  Romero's mustache that's painted
• 1:10:11
  over what do you know yes the Joker has
• 1:10:16
  a big bushy mustache cuz Caesar Romero refused to shave it off and they just
• 1:10:20
  paint the Joker makeup over it I don't think I've even noticed let me have a look
• 1:10:26
  let me have a look oh man
• 1:10:31
  I know this where you go this is where you go sorry we're going to go
• 1:10:37
  find someone else yeah shave the mustache if you want the job
• 1:10:43
  yeah oh man I need to watch this show now I didn't even I mean obviously as a
• 1:10:48
  kid I just didn't even think of it but looks awful yeah I bet these I bet
• 1:10:55
  these look awesome on Blu-ray is this available on
• 1:10:59
  Blu-ray it was meant to be I I forgot to check I was kind of holding out for it
• 1:11:03
  and then it just kind of slipped under the
• 1:11:08
  radar B man Blu-ray there are some that you can watch online I watched the episode with
• 1:11:15
  Bruce Lee in it at some point last year oh when I was on a Bruce Lee
• 1:11:21
  kick there is a box set awesome so I
• 1:11:26
  will be looking for that oh and I will be I will be dressed
• 1:11:31
  at dressed up at packs this year as well I'm not going to say what it is yet
• 1:11:35
  it'll be a surprise does it also involve a onesie uh no I'll try and think of
• 1:11:41
  something that does for one of the days though because Luke's going to look
• 1:11:44
  pretty sexy in his one I know so you're going to have to sex it up well I'm
• 1:11:49
  going to have to wear something that kind of conceals the erection that I'm
• 1:11:53
  going to have from walking around with Luke as he's a onesie that's the problem
• 1:11:56
  with a onesie it's not very erection friendly no no no that's ask that's that
• 1:12:03
  problem have it the conventions all the time also I'll just let you know now you
• 1:12:08
  find this at packs we'll give you a prize oh it'll be an is
• 1:12:14
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• 1:12:18
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