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Live From Oregon: 4 Storylines To Watch In Buckeyes vs. Ducks · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's tom A quick note before we get
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  Speaker 1: into today's show.
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  Speaker 2: We had a.
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  Speaker 1: Weird glitch with our streaming software as near as we
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  Speaker 1: can figure, and so Tony's voice and my voice on
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  Speaker 1: this show are going to sound very weird, much deeper
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  Speaker 1: pitched than usual, a little like we've been hit with
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  Speaker 1: franquilizer darts. We don't quite understand it. It kind of
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  Speaker 1: comes and goes throughout the course of the show. So
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  Speaker 1: if you're wondering, is it just me? Are my speakers weird? No,
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  Speaker 1: it's some weird issue. Just wanted to give you a
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  Speaker 1: heads up. Show itself is fine. The audience on the
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  Speaker 1: live episode found it extremely amusing. Hopefully you will as well.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully you still enjoy the show with or without the
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  Speaker 1: weird voices.
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  Speaker 2: All right, with that, on with the episode, Hello and
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  Speaker 2: welcome to a very very special live episode of buck
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  Speaker 2: Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, October eleventh. I'm your Style
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  Speaker 2: more the oring game in one day, the game against
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  Speaker 2: Michigan in fifty days. We are live in the state
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  Speaker 2: of Oregon, the Evergreen State, Tony. That's what it says
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  Speaker 2: in the license plates. We will we are just outside Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be down in Eugene tomorrow. We had a well
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  Speaker 2: tony through the day of travel out here. It was
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  Speaker 2: many things, most of them were long. So we're here.
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  Speaker 2: There is some news that we landed to report from
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  Speaker 2: the Oregon on three site Scoop Duck that Jordan Birch,
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  Speaker 2: the defensive end that we've been talking about all week long,
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  Speaker 2: apparently got banged up at practice on Thursday. Reports on
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  Speaker 2: the severity have varied a good bit, which is very
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  Speaker 2: typical of this type of situation. But boy, in a
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  Speaker 2: game where it feels like there's a lot of areas
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  Speaker 2: where Ohio State is kind of even or maybe slightly ahead,
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  Speaker 2: if Jordan Birch isn't able to go and we have
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  Speaker 2: we don't have any idea right now whether he will
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  Speaker 2: will or won't, but that could be one one more
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  Speaker 2: significant piece to how this game ends up on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jordan Birch, leading the Big Ten in sacks five
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  Speaker 3: had two and a half against Michigan State alone. Even
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  Speaker 3: if he's not one hundred plays, that still helps Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, this is pretty big news when the one
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  Speaker 3: of the few spots that you look at Oregon and
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  Speaker 3: think you know, there's there's a possibility of an advantage
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  Speaker 3: there against Josh Friar, against Josh Simmons. He's just a
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  Speaker 3: really big, powerful guy and also very athletic. We're Chip
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  Speaker 3: Kelly talking about how athletic he is and his ability
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  Speaker 3: to cover ground and things like that. So if any
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  Speaker 3: of that is compromised, that's definitely a bonus for Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: So it's can be something to continue to monitor. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get the availability report. Big Ten will release that Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Friday night. When are they Saturday. I feel like we
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  Speaker 3: generally we can't talk about it until Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, And I want to put all of
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  Speaker 2: this in a little bit of historical context. You may
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  Speaker 2: remember the last time Ohio State played Oregon back in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Cavon Thibodeau, big defensive end, was not
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  Speaker 2: able to play due to injury, didn't dress. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that was a game that a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: looked at and thought, well, Ohio State probably has a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of advantaging. Boy. If Oregon's best pass rusher
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  Speaker 2: isn't playing, boy, they are clearly doomed. Ron Howard narrator voice,
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  Speaker 2: They were not clearly doomed as that game played out.
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  Speaker 2: So this is not even if Birch doesn't play, and
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  Speaker 2: that's far from a given at this point. That's not
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  Speaker 2: game over drive Home safe by any means.
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  Speaker 3: No, And they've still I mean, it's organ number three
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  Speaker 3: in the nation for a reason. They have talent across
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  Speaker 3: the board, But you lose. If you were to lose him,
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  Speaker 3: then that everybody else has to step up and do more. Now,
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  Speaker 3: when you try to do more, then you might not
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  Speaker 3: be doing your own thing. And sometimes and sometimes we
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  Speaker 3: see defenses come together and next man that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But in a game like this, where every every play
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  Speaker 3: is going to matter, you might see players start to
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  Speaker 3: stress and try to do more than they need to
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  Speaker 3: be doing. You know, just do your one to eleventh.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're down arguably your best defensive player, that
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  Speaker 3: creates some shortfalls for for not just the defensive line,
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  Speaker 3: but for everybody else that he generally impacts, and the
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  Speaker 3: impacts the past defense starts with the past rush, and
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  Speaker 3: we know that there's some concerns with the secondary for Oregon,
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  Speaker 3: and you have so many offensive weapons for Ohio State
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  Speaker 3: in the passing game to lose that if in any
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  Speaker 3: way he's compromised. The initial piece of the past defense
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  Speaker 3: will be very significant.
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  Speaker 2: Very significant because you mentioned the past defense and the
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  Speaker 2: secondary and potentially concerns there. One of the storylines that
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  Speaker 2: some of the Oregon players were getting asked about this
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  Speaker 2: week was Jabar Mohammad, who is one of the outside
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  Speaker 2: courters for Oregon, very very talented player, but listed at
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  Speaker 2: five to ten, which is five inch. Who's sure than
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith is listed and he's someone who may be
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  Speaker 2: asked to convert Jeremiah Smith even if he can stay
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  Speaker 2: with him speed wise, technique wise, all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith can go up and get it again. It's
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  Speaker 2: just about anyone if he has a five inch or
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  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes sometimes you kind of have to put
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  Speaker 2: the air quotes around five to ten when guys are
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  Speaker 2: listed at five to ten in the notes, that is
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  Speaker 2: potentially a concern. That's one of those things where the
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  Speaker 2: longer the secondary has to cover, the more you potentially
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  Speaker 2: see issues cropping up for organ and if the pass
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  Speaker 2: rush is hampered because Birches less than one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: or not able to play, or whatever the case is,
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  Speaker 2: that you might see that play out in terms of boy,
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  Speaker 2: now you're seeing issues in the secondary.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can maybe stretch the field more with
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  Speaker 3: that and get a little bit deeper, get away from
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  Speaker 3: some of the safeties that sort of thing. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we will continue to monitor this.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that the organ boards are going crazy with
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  Speaker 3: this news, and it's one of the few players that
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  Speaker 3: they really really don't want to lose. And it's always
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  Speaker 3: fascinating when you see reports like this because it ranges
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  Speaker 3: from stretcher to he walked off on his own, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and everything in between. Because for some people that are
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  Speaker 3: seeing this, it's like it's the end of the world.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how they're going to project it, and that's
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  Speaker 3: how others are going to receive it. And then then
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  Speaker 3: you've got to get some adults in room to be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: well it was just this is all that we saw.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay.
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  Speaker 3: But also sometimes you're some of those adults are trying
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  Speaker 3: to put out a fire that is an actual.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do have also the football coach tendency towards
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  Speaker 2: not letting information get out that might be beneficial to
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  Speaker 2: the opponent to know that, hey, this guy can play,
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  Speaker 2: can't play. He might be limited whatever. So then the
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  Speaker 2: tendency is a lot like in the weeks before any
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  Speaker 2: pro draft. You know, oh, this team is looking at this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is that what they're telling you? Okay? Sure? Are
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  Speaker 2: they directly incentivized to not tell you the truth? Why? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they are, so even if you do get you know, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this might be a little hysterical on one side. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: this might be a little misleading on the other side.
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  Speaker 2: And frankly, how often does it seem like a big
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  Speaker 2: game like this, a game that everyone's all hyped up about,
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  Speaker 2: there's always a rumor about oh, so and so broker's
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  Speaker 2: leg in practice, And every time it feels like there's
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  Speaker 2: a rumor like that, and eighty percent of the time
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  Speaker 2: it's no. That was just a just with someone. Some
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  Speaker 2: random person on Twitter with twelve followers tweeted something out
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  Speaker 2: and everyone freaked out because everyone's so on edge at
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  Speaker 2: the edge of a big game like this, So there
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  Speaker 2: seems to be more credence to this than there is
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  Speaker 2: just random Twitter guy. But you know, the severity of
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  Speaker 2: that we will see that feels like something could impact
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  Speaker 2: things quite a bit, because boy, the game in the
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  Speaker 2: trenches is going to be that's gonna be where this
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  Speaker 2: game is won and lost. Can Ohio State run the
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  Speaker 2: ball on Organ if they can, boy, that opens some
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  Speaker 2: things up for the Buckeyes. And you look at the
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State offensive line, they've been better, they've they've really
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  Speaker 2: improved over the course of the last month. The Organ
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  Speaker 2: defensive line is good, but not world beating. And it
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  Speaker 2: feels like if Ohio State just they don't have to
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  Speaker 2: be able to run the ball for seven yards to carry.
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  Speaker 2: If they can just run the ball for five yards
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  Speaker 2: to carry, that feels like that goes a long way
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  Speaker 2: towards making this an Ohio State win.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's controlling the line of scrimmage. It's control first down,
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  Speaker 3: allowing you to do whatever you want on second down,
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  Speaker 3: being a non predictable offense in that way, and so
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  Speaker 3: the defense does not can't lean one way or the
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  Speaker 3: other as to what you're gonna do on second down,
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  Speaker 3: third down. And so yeah, it's start starts with the run.
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  Speaker 3: And what I think will happen and what what I
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  Speaker 3: know can happen is whenever run is effective early on,
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  Speaker 3: it just continues to get more effective as as the
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  Speaker 3: game wears on. And unless unless there are second half
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  Speaker 3: adjustments where things just get shut down.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just looking at the comments. I just I
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  Speaker 2: just found the the Yeah yeah sorry, the lighting in
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  Speaker 2: our hotel room is super weird and there's three different
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  Speaker 2: colors of light, not including the natural light. Yes, so sorry,
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  Speaker 2: are they? Well? All right?
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  Speaker 3: Well then that happened uh one of the post games
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, but it was for everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just there was. Yeah, so like talking about loud. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so we're in organ and everything's different here. Yeah, what
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  Speaker 3: we need is some helium balloons.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. When isn't that the solution? Yeah? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so our our voices, our voices sound the same to us,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to I'm assuming, as always this is
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  Speaker 2: probably a Kevin problem, So nay, we sound great camera
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  Speaker 2: either way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't mind having a deep voice. Do we want to
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  Speaker 2: spend a few minutes singing some Verry White songs while
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  Speaker 2: we wait? Well? A lot of all? All right? So well,
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  Speaker 2: h well, sorry, sorry about gestures vaguely towards whatever. We'll
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  Speaker 2: just keep talking and maybe our voices will get normal,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe they won't, and this will be a wonderful
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  Speaker 2: set up. Open a diaphragm. There you go it. My
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  Speaker 2: voice sounded it deep as well. So okay, all right,
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  Speaker 2: well flames stream is flame straining or Tom, we just
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  Speaker 2: need to speed the video up and we'll get the
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  Speaker 2: Alvin and the Chipmunks effect and then so yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe maybe we just sound like this now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who's to say anyway, West Coast Tom,
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  Speaker 2: West Coast Tom, Yes, this is uh anyway, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: gonna I was gonna get into the Bad Boy Records thing,
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  Speaker 2: and then I thought, you know what, Tony, that there's
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  Speaker 2: been some news on that front. We're going to just
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  Speaker 2: steer clear of that whole thing. Let's let's not if
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  Speaker 2: we've learned one lesson Tony. Moving on to the other
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  Speaker 2: side of the ball, in terms of the other side
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  Speaker 2: of the trenches, where one of the other big pieces
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  Speaker 2: of this game is going to be how well Oregon
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  Speaker 2: can run the ball and how well Oregon can stroll
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  Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, because if you get pressure and
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  Speaker 2: you can't get you can't pick up runs in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the wills are super chat. Here is five
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  Speaker 2: for Barry White, Thank you very much. Can we be
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  Speaker 2: who was the guy who did chef on Isaac Hayes. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we'll give you Isaac Hayes. Yeah, never a dull day
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  Speaker 2: on the Ohios back. Moving back once again, circling back,
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  Speaker 2: circling back to football. I'm really trying to keep this
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  Speaker 2: one on the rails. The Oregon offense. If they're not
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  Speaker 2: able to run the ball, that feels like that might
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  Speaker 2: be I don't want to say instant doom, but an
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  Speaker 2: almost instantly deciding factor, because if they can't run the
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  Speaker 2: ball and their one dimensional, they don't have the downfield
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  Speaker 2: passing game that Ohio State has, they don't have the
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  Speaker 2: big playmakers on the outside that Ohio State has. Necessarily,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like if Oregon can't run the ball, that
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  Speaker 2: is instantly going to be a AE or major problem.
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  Speaker 2: And you look at the interior of the Oregon offensive
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  Speaker 2: line this year and it's better, but it's still a
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  Speaker 2: question mark. And boy, having Tyler Williams bag might be
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  Speaker 2: a deciding factor for all hostin as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think not running wouldn't be instant doom.
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  Speaker 3: It would be time release doom. So it would be
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  Speaker 3: an assured doom coming, but secondary fourth doom in a
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  Speaker 3: new time release Capsus very much.
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  Speaker 2: So extended release doom PM.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think the talking with Oregon reporters over
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  Speaker 3: the week, the concern on the offensive line is that interior,
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  Speaker 3: which is a new starting center who was a guard
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  Speaker 3: and two guards who have never really been all that impressive,
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  Speaker 3: and so those are the guys that are going to
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  Speaker 3: be handling Tyler Williams and ty Hamilton and whoever else
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  Speaker 3: gets in there. And the rush men, whether you know
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  Speaker 3: it's Kanen Curry or Kenyatta Jackson or whomever Jack Sawyer,
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  Speaker 3: that they're throwing there on passing down. So I think
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  Speaker 3: the more that we talk to people, the more we
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  Speaker 3: hear from people, it seems like both sides of this thing,
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  Speaker 3: both the organ media and Ohio State media, are leaning
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  Speaker 3: towards Ohio State in this one pretty decidedly, which is
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  Speaker 3: a little surprising to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I started the week thinking Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: very close twenty four seven twenty four, relatively low scoring,
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  Speaker 2: very close game, pretty evenly matched teams. And I think
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  Speaker 2: as I've gone through the week, you keep seeing people
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  Speaker 2: who are not the people who always pick Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: no matter what, or you know, even organ people saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, this is a concern. Hey, this is a concern,
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  Speaker 2: and that is a at some point that means something.
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  Speaker 2: And when you look at the PFF grades on the
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  Speaker 2: injury of the offensive line, it's like, hmm, that feels
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  Speaker 2: like that's a little bit of a concern. And there's
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  Speaker 2: just a lot of little stuff. And I think the
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  Speaker 2: line is kind of slowly taking up towards Ohios Dame.
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  Speaker 2: The last time I looked at it, Ohios it was
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  Speaker 2: favor by four, but this had been a one or
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  Speaker 2: two point line a little while ago. This is this
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  Speaker 2: is an organ thing that's very, very talent, one of
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  Speaker 2: the best, most talented teams in the country. But this
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  Speaker 2: is also an Ohio State team that might be more
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  Speaker 2: talented than anyone in the country.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess we'll watch that line and see
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  Speaker 3: if it starts creeping more towards Ohio State, even more
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  Speaker 3: towards Ohio State. Maybe that lends some credence to the
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  Speaker 3: Jordan Birch thing along the way, But.
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  Speaker 2: The people in the chat are very disappointed that apparently
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  Speaker 2: the issue is starting to resolve it. Yeah, sorry, sorry, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: well darn it.
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  Speaker 3: No, you remember that episode of Friends where Phoebe has
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  Speaker 3: a call and she's singing, and people love the new
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  Speaker 3: singing voice because it's a deeper voice with the cold,
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  Speaker 3: and then she loses it and starts to like sound
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  Speaker 3: like she did before. People are like, She's like, I
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  Speaker 3: need this, I need this voice bag. And so then
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  Speaker 3: Rachel Harmonica had a cold and she was drinking a
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  Speaker 3: cup of coffee and then Phoebe grabs a cup of
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  Speaker 3: starts looking at you try to get a cold voice back.
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  Speaker 3: Can you remember that episode?
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  Speaker 2: I don't, Tony, can you sing Smelly Kat in the
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  Speaker 2: Phoebe cold voice? I could, and.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna say super chats and something like
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  Speaker 3: many dollars and super chats?
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  Speaker 2: Would it take? No? No. I did see someone asking
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: about a Hungry Hungry Huddle episode. We are planning on
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: doing that while we're out here. Kevin sort of addressed
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: this in there. There's a lot of moving parts with
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: this trip because we're staying a little ways away from
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: from Eugene and there's a lot of stuff and we're
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: trying to center our day around getting to the Ohio
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: State team arrival on Friday, so there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: moving parts here. We are planning on trying to do
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  Speaker 2: something while we're out here, because we know those are
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  Speaker 2: always popular segments and we you know, we enjoy them
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  Speaker 2: as well, and we do have to eat at some point,
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  Speaker 2: so it doesn't this is not really taking a lot
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  Speaker 2: of extra time out of our day to do that,
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  Speaker 2: so we what we will work on that. The other
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  Speaker 2: thing I wanted to ask you about was special teams
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  Speaker 2: because special teams is the one area that you sort
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  Speaker 2: of look at and you go other than turnovers, this
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  Speaker 2: is the one area where you could see Oregon hit
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  Speaker 2: it popping a big play, whether it's a kick return,
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  Speaker 2: punt return for a touchdown. They've done both of those
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  Speaker 2: this year already. You could see that. That feels like
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  Speaker 2: one of the areas that for Ohio State, you just
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  Speaker 2: have to not screw it up. You just have to
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  Speaker 2: be fine on special teams and not have a bad
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  Speaker 2: day because that's one area where if it is a
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  Speaker 2: close game, if this is a one score game late
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  Speaker 2: or a three point game later, or a tie game
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  Speaker 2: lad that could be a deciding factor. We could see
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  Speaker 2: special teams decide games against Ohio State in the past.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know how great do you feel
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  Speaker 3: if it comes down to Jaden Fielding needing to kick
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  Speaker 3: a forty eight yarder or Jenneralguire needing to pin Organ
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  Speaker 3: inside the ten, these are things that neither guy's really
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  Speaker 3: had to do. Certainly not Maguire, who is punning for
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  Speaker 3: the first time this you know, as a Buck guy
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  Speaker 3: this year, and Fielding for the consistency that he's had,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: has never really been asked to do something special or spectacular.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: And we saw that the kickoffs a couple of weeks
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: ago that did not go well. And the return game.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Brandon Innis has all kinds of potential he's flashed here
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: and there, but really nothing in terms of the kickoff
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: returns that we've seen from Ohio State and since since
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to book his freshman year basically, and
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: so I don't expect anything from Ohio State's return game.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: But the best thing that they can do is not
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: let anything happen with the Organ return return game and
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: just don't put the ball into the end zone. You know,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Pint and Wight where he can, but we haven't even
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: seen like Jim mcguart, I don't even know has he
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: ever outkicked his coverage because he's he's pretty nested, like
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: forty yards every time.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Well, when they were talking during fall camp about what
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they wanted out of the punters, they talked about consistency
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and a certain hanngtime in kicking the ball between forty
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: and forty four yards down the field because they don't
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: want you. They don't want to have thirty eight and
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: then sixty three, because when you kick at sixty three,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: it's like, wow, that's great. The ball way down the field.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's when the returner gets a chance potentially to get
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: a head of steam up before the coverage you can
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: get there, and that's where you kick at sixty three,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, the net is twenty five
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: because the guy rips off a thirty something yard return.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's if this is if this
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: is a game where we do our postgame show and
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: we really don't bring up special teams at all, which
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: has has happened always in the past. I mean, that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: one of the reasons that Jaden Fielding and Joe maguire
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: are kind of a little bit unknowns. This year we
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: brought up special teams in the game where they kicked
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: three kickoffs side of bounds. But if it's just you know,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: the kickoffs are going for touchbacks and the punts are
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: netting thirty eight yards and there's you know, the other
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: team has a long return of fifteen yards and maybe one,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe you go one for one on field goals.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: That's kind of like it's just there. It's just that's
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: that's that's just special teams is there. And it's like
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: commenting on the game where the center doesn't have any
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: bad staff, it's like, well, yeah, that's that's the job.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do. If we're not talking
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: special teams, that's probably good news for Ohio State. One
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: thing that is interesting in terms of what they might
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: ask the special teams to do is Ryan Day's fourth
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: down decision making because he's been very aggressive this year
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: and it's worked out really well. And he has this
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: new analytics company that he's working with that is is
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: kind of giving him new data and new information to
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: work on, and so far, it feels like that information
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: has been saying go for it more. He has been
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: going for it more. But it's very easy to do
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: that when you're playing Western Michigan. It's very easy to
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: do when you're playing Acron or Marshall or Michigan State,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: it's not quite as easy. If you're on the road
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and it's fourth and one and a half from the
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: fifty yard line and there's six minutes left in a
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: seven point game in the fourth quarter, that's a whole
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: different thing. And he has tended to be more conservative
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: in the past. I am super interested to see if
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: he gets in that kind of a situation, does he
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: get does he stay aggressive in those situations or is
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that a function of lesser competition earlier in the air.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they do want to be more aggressive,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: but also the analytics gets cross you know, gets cross
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: reference by gut feel, you know, that sort of thing,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: and the gut field can always overturn anything that the
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: analytic say, and that's what coaches will do. I tend
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to believe that this is the aggressive Rand day, that
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: this is the Georgia Ryan day that we're going to see.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: But is it going to be the aggressive Ryan day?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: On your own forty five fourth? And you know, what
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: is an acceptable distance to put Is it fourth and two?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Is it fourth and three?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: You know, like on your own yeah, on your own
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: side of yeah, minus territory, you're there depending on which
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: analytics system you know. They have the ESPN Analytics, and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: I think those are for probably well that's generally fourth
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and three or shorter. It always says go for it,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and it's like, well, that's that's probably broadly true. If
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you average out every program in the nation and you
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: don't take into account personnel, opponent, your team's talent, your
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: team's defense, the numbers that Brian Day's working off of
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: are probably much more specificallyailored to the Ohio State team.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: So I don't think you necessarily look at that and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: go this is gospel. That's that's not quite right. That's
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: it's a little to me like when you're watching one
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: of the ESPN baseball broadcasts and they have the win
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: probability on the thing on the screen, and you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: someone grounds into a double play and the team's win
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: probability goes up, and it's like, no, that's not no,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: that is not how that works at all. You know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: there's still there's still a lot of junk science and
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: junk data out there around this kind of stuff, So
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you can't look at it as absolute, hard and fast. No.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: But if it's fourth and one anywhere, you know, fourth
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and one, even at your own forty five and you
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: have a chance to put the game away, you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you pick up one first down and you put the
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: game away, that one you probably should be going for.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: We've seen Sun Lao from Michigan be very aggressive, even
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: his in his own end, going forward on his own
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: thirty five yard line and fourth and one. If you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: believe in your team and you want to do the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: toughness thing in both Ohio State and Michigan have kind
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: of made that a thing, then you should be probably
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: going for a lot of those. If it's fourth and inches,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: fourth and one kind of thing.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, My thought on it is, unless it's the first
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: drive or the second drive, you you' have had a
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: couple of drives to see if the team's got it
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: or they don't have it. And I think that really
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: is a major contributing factor to the decision making. If
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: if you've been picking up third and two, third and three,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem in minus territory. You know,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: at jern forty going forward on on a on a two.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: If if you feel that you have shown that you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: picking these up now, if you've been getting stoned and
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: we are in Oregon. But if you if you constoned,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: maybe you don't do that. Maybe maybe you don't do that, Yes.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe do you do you run a Mackey book
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: on the jet suite into the boundary to so arguably
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: argu too soon. Yes, Yeah, there's just this is a
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: team that has so many options that I think it's
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: going to be hard to stop everything. I think you've
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: got if the line is blocking reasonably well, and you've
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: got your choice of Traveon Henderson or quin John Judkins,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: and you've got Will Howard in a run game, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: you've got hey, maybe it just zip one out to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: your choice of Carnel Tate and Mecca Abuka Jeremiah Smith.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of stuff that the opponent has to
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: defend all at the same time. And we talked about
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: this on one of the shows this week. I think,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: but defending the RPO, and you can defend the RPO,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: but it involves you got to play man now, because
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to trust their cornerbacks to play man against
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: press man in a fourth and short situation against Jeremiah
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Smith a Mecca Abuka maybe, but I don't know that
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I necessarily think that they do.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Do you think that Will Howard has it like a
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: fifteen for thirty four game in him the season, because
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: he's been very consistent and what he does when his
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: completion percentage does flex way, he goes from like sixty
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: seven to eighty four.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I'm just wondering if.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: He's got one of those bad games and it's below
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: well below average, if like fifteen for thirty four, one
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy yards, one touchdown, one interception, and it's
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: just like this is reminiscent of a Kansas State Will
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Howard more than an Ohio State Will Howard.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: He hasn't shown signs of that. As we've talked about before,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: one or two bad throws bad plays per game is
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: what he's averaging right now, which means, you know, sixty
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: four good plays.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think a fifteen for thirty four seems
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: unlikely to me because unless they're losing and they have
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to throw, if he's not effective in the passing game,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you simplify the throws. They have guys who you can
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: make simple throws and they can make, you know, make
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: a short throw turn into a long gain in space.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: But if even that, that's not working. Unless you're down
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: by multiple scores, which is a challenge for a team
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: to get them down by multiple scores. You just at
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that point you're gonna run the ball and you're gonna
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: it's just gonna be Okay, you can't do This isn't working,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: so we got to do something else, and you don't
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: have This is not the Dwayne Haskins twenty eighteen buck guys,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: where it's you know, boy, they can't run the ball,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the defense isn't very good. They constantly have to score points,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: so they just have to throw and Dwayne Haskins is
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: thrown for four hundred yards of a good week. This
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: is That's not this team. This team has a diverse
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: enough offense that I don't think you're going to be
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: painted into that kind of a corner. I don't think
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: unless they fall way behind, if they fall way behind tomorrow,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: or they fall way behind at Penn State or something
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like that. Sure, maybe we get into that, into that conversation.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: I just I don't see a situation where Ryan Day
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and Chip Kelly see will Howard throw twenty incompletions and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: go more from more of this please.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, even if even if he has you know, forty
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: seven percent or whatever for a portion of the game,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: there's always that potential for it. That next row is
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: going to be the one, you know, to Jeremiah Smith
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: or Amaka Buka that goes the distance. Same with any
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: of those Russians from Quinjohn Jenkins or Traveon Henderson. That's
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: that's why, even if this offense is struggling, the chunk,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: the chunk yardage that they can get, can even so
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: many things out and some of these drives that will
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: go three and out or you know, four or five
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: and out, you're going to have those, but you got
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: to capitalize when you do get those big chunk plays
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: to put those into the end zone because you're not
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: necessarily going to get too many thirteen play drives in
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm greatly enjoying everyone in the comments
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: talking about how tired we look. We have been, Well,
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: we've we've been, We've been up for a little while.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: We get up at Uh yeah, I think I think
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: my alarm was set for two forty five am. Yeah,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: and uh.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel I feel fine. Yeah, No, I don't.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I I'm not normally drinking coffee on these evening live shows,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: but here we are.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that we do look very tired. That explains
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: maybe that explains the deep voices earlier. That's let's just
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: travel man, all right. So we want to hit a
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: couple of questions.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can hand it jumping? And so it was birch
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: heard or just a rumor, so, yeah, you may have
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: hopped in a little late. So here's what we know.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: We're not going to say, oh yeah, we have impeccable
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: sources on this, impeccable sources within the organ football program.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: We're going to defer this to the organ. On three
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: site that's scooped Duck and they said the report said
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: that they were told he did get nicked up at
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: practice and they held him up the rest of the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: practice as a precautionary thing. It didn't sound alarming, but
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: take it how you will. And we talked about this earlier.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: You get the reports where this person is on the
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: verge of needing to go into intensive care, and then
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you also have the thing that, oh it just turned
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: out it was just a hangnail and we didn't have
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to hold Yeah, yeah, everything is precautionary and generally you'll
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: have the the initial reports will come out and everyone
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: will get hysterical, and every report gets worse and worse
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and worse, and then the team You talk to someone
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: from the team, and the team is incentivized to minimize
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: it because they want they don't want Ohio State to
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: know that this is a serious thing, you know, whether
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: it's a serious thing or not. They want to communicate
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to you that it's not a serious thing and it
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: won't impact his availability for Saturday because they don't want
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: to Ohio State to be able to game plan around. Hey,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: this guy isn't playing. If he's not going to play,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: So the information you're getting is it's information? Is it accurate?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: We compared it earlier to the information you get from teams.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: You know, before the Major League Baseball draft, the team
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: is going to tell you, hey, we're really looking at
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: this guy. Are they really looking at that guy? Well,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you know they are they trying to float someone else
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: down there? Are they trying to mislead you so that
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the team behind who's picking behind them, doesn't trade up
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: and get ahead of them to take the guy they
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: really want. I mean, you're not incentivized to tell the truth.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Here you're not under oath. So all of this information
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I always take with a real grain of salt. On
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: these big game week day before the game, two days
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: before the game, there's always a rumor about someone or
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: something getting hurt and boy it's very serious and oh boy,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: it's going to really change everything. And sometimes it is,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but a lot of times it's not.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: When we talked about that earlier in the show, I
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: just had flashbacks to the twenty twenty COVID season. Oh man,
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: but every single.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Day there was.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Heard about this test result, and it's like, we got
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: to go chase this stuff down. Yeah, I don't want
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: to go back. I don't want to go back to that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: For it av a number of reasons, no respectfully declined. Yet,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: well that was the season where we didn't get to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: come out here. We thought we were going to get
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: to come out here in twenty twenty and didn't, and
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: that was one of many disappointing things that year. But yeah,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: very glad we're out here hoping. I have not heard
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: any reports of the game being canceled, which is good.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: That is positive for that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get all the way out here. Seventy two hours
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: of travel.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yep I trade and Kevin posted just read the organ
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: issue two hundred and twenty media credentials, which I think
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that was a John Canzano put that out from the
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: from I think he's just Johncanzono dot com now, but
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: he's a longtime newspaper reporter, very very plugged in. Just
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to put that in perspective, there were organ interviews that
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: we put out a video of earlier today, just a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: bunch of clips with the Oregon players and you can
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: see a reflection in the window behind the players. How
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: many people were there and it was like eight. There's
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: like eight people standing around Dylan Gabriel asking questions. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: tweeted out a picture on Wednesday night from inside the
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Woody Hayes of Josh Fryer and how many people were
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: standing around him and it was probably thirty thirty five something.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I mean it was. It was a big, big media gathering.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: This is going to be an enormous number of people,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: not only because of all the Ohio state people who
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: are out here, a bunch of national people are here
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: for this game. This is this is you know, the
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: center of the college football world.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: This weekend and I do wonder does that also did
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: the credentials also include the NFL scouts or is that
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: all stuff? Probably yeah, but I mean that's that's that's
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: why they're putting people on the roof.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: I believe it is an open air press box, which
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: is going to be I've never experienced that before. Apparently
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: that's the word is. Yeah, but this is it's not
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: open air. It's not open air outside. It's open air
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: inside of Donald Yeah. But neutral site NFL stadium, is
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Kevin get out of my face with that. This is
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: a road game or just a home game for a
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It is not neutral nine to at all. So I
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: heard listening to some of the Michigan podcasts that I'll
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: listen to every note again, people that were out there
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: were just blown away by the Washington scene. And yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: the noise, the constant noise. So I'm looking forward to
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: this one on Saturday.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Definitely. It's gonna be a lot of fun. It's a
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: really is a great venue. It's one of those places
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: you've seen games for years and years and years. I mean,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: like my really iconic moments in college football, and a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: campus that Ohio State has not played in. Did you
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: know I put I wrote it our piece this afternoon
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about interesting things from the game notes. Ohio State played
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: in the second ever game at Aultin Stadium in nineteen
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: sixty seven and has not played here since. They won
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: that game. They did win that game thirty to nothing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: They won the other half of the home and home
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty eight. I think that was twenty one
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: to seven. Those are your Ohio State won the National championship,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: but they have played six times in Columbus. This will
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: be the second at time in Eugene. Played a couple
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: of times in the Rose Bowl and once in the
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: National Championship game at Jerry World, So this is this
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: is a little bit of a This is an unfamiliar venue.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Josh Fryer talked about the fact that he had been
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: out here for an official visit when he was in
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: high school, so he's seen a game here. He knows
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: kind of what the atmosphere is like. Carlos Lachlan has
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: obviously been here. Chip Kelly has obviously been here when
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: they were coaching for Oregon. But there's a lot of
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: people that this is going to be the first time
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: they're coming out here. A lot of I think that's
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: true of the media folks, a lot of the players,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of the coaches. So yeah, that's gonna be
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be a really really exciting game.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And it's the same it's fifty two fifty four thousand,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: which I believe is like the it's like the exact
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: same as like Maryland. Maybe like it's it's the thirteenth
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: largest stadium capacity wise, But yeah, I'm sure we're gonna
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: look get there and be like this, this is it,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: you know, like, yeah, I was expecting I'm not, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not expecting anything bigger. But you look at it
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: and you're like, how could this be one of the
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: five loudest stadiums in the nation. But there aren't enough people, but.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Acoustics well, and it's laid out really interestingly too, because
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: there's a really big stands on one side, and then
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: there's another spot where in the corner it looks like
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: there's about fifteen rows. So I'm really interested to see it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I read something on our board this week there was
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: an audio an acoustic engineer who designed it to make
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: the loudest place in the stadium the visiting bench area.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: That the way the stadium is designed, it focuses all
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: of the noise towards the visiting bench area.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: So and where where did that person get hit their degree.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: From the Ohio State University? That has been that has
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: been a big topic. They believe Ohio State, Ohio State
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: engineers secretly or you know, through professional through professional work
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: decades ago when there was no reason to think that
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Ohio State in Oregon would be or there was. There
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: was also some very funny moments during the Oregon interviews
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: because James Krepia, who works for the Oregonian newspaper or
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: is an Ohio State grat, and both Dan Lanning and
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel gave him some kind of good natured crap
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: this week about it. Yeah, Landing, Yeah, well he's Oregon
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: normally has practice open for at least a short period
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: of time. And he said, well we had to close
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: practice because James is here didn't want to and yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and uh, Dylan Gabriel asked him who he was rooting for.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was you know, I mean, it's good,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: it's it's funny.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: So it's it's funny when you coach can joke with
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: a smaller beat and can I get away with that
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: whereas you know, I don't know if people understand the
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Ohio State beat is, in my opinion, the largest sports
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: beat in America. Yeah, as large as on the other end,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: as you know, as competitive and all of that. But anyway,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: that's that's neither here nor there.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Brian says, you won't be able to hear yourself think
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: he I'm guessing an Oregon fan. That's how a lot
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: it will be, Go Ducks. This is a place where
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Washington and Oregon. I've never seen a game in either
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: of those stadiums, but I can go back to the
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Keith Jackson years and Keith Jackson telling telling you this
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: is the loudest place in the Watsky Stadium is the
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: loudest place in America. And you look at it and
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it's open on both ends. It's like, how could that
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: be the loud you know, because a lot of the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: stadium designed. Michigan Stadium, for example, is a bowl terrible and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: it just doesn't keep the it doesn't keep the noise in.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: So just it is not that loud at Michigan State
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: and Beaver Stadium. At Penn State, Ohio Stadium much more
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: vertical that keeps the noise in in you know, kind
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: of in that bowl. This is. These are stadiums that
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: don't look like they should be loud, but people just
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: talk about them as being so consistently loud. It must
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: be loud, and I'm just I'm really looking forward to it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: We may have all these memories of like the foghorn
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: going off, and how loud is that going to be?
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: In person, there's a lot of and you're going to
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: be down there like that, feeling the full brunt. If
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: it isn't an opener, and I believe I've been told
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: it is. We don't really get to experience that because
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: we have some open windows here and there and it's
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: very quiet. You're you're disconnected from the game. Oh yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: sinse yeah. Whereas if there's no no blocking of the
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: noise and we're going to be right in it. So
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely looking forward to that one. Now, I probably
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: won't be able to be heard, as you know, because
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: we're up in the press pot. We're all just chatting,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: were chatty. Kathy's if I tell these youngsters below us
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: to like keep it down, we're trying to talk about
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: the game, I'm sure to be well received.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm so so so amused by the constant
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: comments about the the audio and the we can't get
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: the audio right. We're in a perfect acoustic environment where
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: it's a hotel room. There's not a lot of hard
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: surfaces around here. It should be echoing around. It's a
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: bluckye Weekly podcast. There is no no this is the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: morning it is the morning show. Everything should be perfect.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: It should be time.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: You even said, and this annoys me a little bit.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: When we do a live morning show Bucky is Tomorrow
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Morning presented by Tim More, you say it's a very
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: very special Bucky Tomorrow Morning. When we do a live
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: buck Eye week that just hey, it's Bucky Weekly.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's on you. That's true now that you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: bring it up. In fact, it is. Well, let's change
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: the subject, all right, before we find out why it's
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: very special. Why don't we uh it comes get Yeah,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: I hit the thumbs up. We have other questions we
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: want to get to. Okay, wet Fort Wayne Buckeye. Back
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: to the game with Gabriel having issues in the red zone.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: I think this is the game where Downs gets his
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: first I tis a Buckeye by baiding him into it
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: bad throw.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I you know what if Cale Downs didn't get his
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: first interception as a buckye against agelse, he's never getting
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: an interception time. That's it's never happening. But uh, I
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: think with Dylan Gabriel that the interception that he's thrown
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: have been out routed getting jumped by quarters. But also
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: like this, what's the second one? I mean the one
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Indians Zone was against Michigan State was a quarter dropping
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: like off of this guy and making a really good catch.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to be shot for Klee Downs
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: gets an interception at some point. What Dylan Gabriel has
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: going deep a little bit, it's you're kind of throwing
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: it before. He's not waiting like three seconds. He's trying
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: to get rid of it quicker and just throwing it up,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: trying to get somebody to run under it. Maybe that's
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: something that Kyle Downs can run under. But who is
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: more likely to throw two interceptions this week?
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: It's interesting because both guys have talked about the fact
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: that they know they need to be more careful in
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the football and they can't. You know, they don't want
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to make mistakes. I think the guy who's more likely
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: to throw two interceptions. Is the guy whose team is down,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: not that the interception are causing his team to be down.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Then if you're Dylan Gabriel and you're coming into this
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: game thinking, I just threw two interceptions in the red zone,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I can't do that again. I have to be more
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: careful with the ball. You're going to be more careful
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: with the ball because this is a guy who has
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: played a million games of football, six year player. This
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: is not someone who's new to the big game environment.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: He's not going to be overwhelmed by the moment, so
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: he's probably going to be a little more conservative early
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: in the game. If they're down ten points in the third,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: late third, early fourth quarter and you get to apartments
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: a point. We got to get points on this drive,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: then you start throwing it into tighter windows and then
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: you are more likely to have an interception. And that's
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: true if that's Ohio States down ten points, and Will
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Howard has to be in that mode as well. Well.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: It's what Will Howard said when I asked him about
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: towing the line between making a play and doing too much,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: and he said, you got to capitalize on what is there.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: You can't force anything. You got to take advantage of
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: what they give you. It's just it's a lot to
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: ask in a quarterback to go up to the line
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: and stop and don't go beyond that line that now
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: you've done too much. That's a lot of the art
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: of being being a quarterback. And both of these guys
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: have been able to stop at that line, but also
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: have also gone beyond it because they've done it all, they've.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Seen it all.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Both guys have said that. But this is still a very,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: very big game, and regardless of how much experience you have,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: there's going butterflies in this one for at least the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: first quarter.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but then maybe you get into the fourth and
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: sometimes it just takes getting out there and getting hit once.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: You know. Will Howard talked about the fact that sometimes
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: get out there, get popped once. That kind of gets
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: the blue the blood flowing, and gets ready. We were
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: talking earlier about false precision, and I'm looking at the
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Ohio state line. Is Ohio State minus three and ESPN's
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: FPI has the Buckeyes sixty four percent likely to win
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: and Penn State is a three and a half point favorite.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: And ESPN's FPI has USC is fifty two percent likely
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: to win, which, okay, maybe.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Because maybe that's the half point I think is the
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: difference there.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Uh huh. Maybelton's husband says, I think our running game
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: will get us third and shorts more often than third
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and long time. I'm assuming that's from the Ohio State perspective.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And if so, you know, if Ohio State can stay
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: in third and short, then you can just stay on schedule.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: That's going to go a long way towards getting them
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a bunch of points.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you can do whatever you want to cut down,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: whether it's a short throw, whether it's intermediate, because the
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: way Will Howard throws those intermediate throws, those have been
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: very accurate this season, so it's not like you just
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: need to throw a three or four yard out to
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: What are you reading that is affecting you?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I'm reading Ryan's reviews and overviews saying Tony sounds like
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Andre the Giant. They keep waiting for him to challenge
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Hulkoga into a match at this convention center. Brow Tony,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: We're going to sell you the whole seat. You're really
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: going to need the edge.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: The thing about Andrea the Giant plus the French accent
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: that made it very difficult to here. I cannot do
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: a French accent. That is very difficult to here. I
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: apologize for the voices. The more that I talk, I
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: can feel my voice going away. But the deepness comes
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: from See. The Internet is a series of tubes and
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: things get compressed, and that's not how we really sound.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: It's like anytime you back, when you playing your tape,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: you're recording on the tape and it's like, is.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: That really my voice? Ones and zeros? It's ones and zeros,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it's mostly zeros.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Fort Wayne Bucky says, is this the game we see
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: either qu or Trey get twenty carries which everyone has
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: the hot hand? I think this is a game where
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: you can see both guys get fifteen carries. If there
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: is one who's running, you know one of them is
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: running for nine yards of carry and one of them
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: is running for three yards of carry, they are going
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: to probably stick with the hot hand. I don't. This
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: is not one where you're trying to spare people's feelings.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: And based on what everyone has said, including both of
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: those guys, they're not that worried. Trevan Henderson has had
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: a bunch of games where he's gotten seven carries, and
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: he's perfectly fine with it because they're winning. They're moving
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the gate, you know, they're moving the ball. If one
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: of these guys is running for two hundred yards, no
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: one's getting No one's going to be saying, but what
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: about me? No, that's not how it's gonna work.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: Try and Henderson didn't come back for his senior year
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: to get twenty five carries against Oregon or there's so
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: much more to this season. I think they both know
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: if one guy gets twenty five carries in this one,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: the other guy is probably going to get twenty five carries,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: you know, at Penn State or against Michigan or in
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: the playoffs like their their time will come. And as
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: long as they're winning and running like there are no
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: bigger supporters of each of those guys than the other guy.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: When you watch some like when you watch quinch On
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Judkins go eighty six yards carry gett and Henderson's right
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: there a sideline, you know, celebrating with him. He's not
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: thinking that it should have been me. And we have
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: seen Tom in our years of covering this. Where do
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: you remember what was Mike Weber in the locker room
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: of one of them. Oh yeah, theigten championship game or
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: the Bowl. They might have been a Cotton Bowl where
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: he was legitimately angry that he had like maybe three
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: carries in the game.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Like, so we've seen reactions. And I've seen Mayan Williams
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: a few years back, like not get a carry in
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: a game and you can see him on the on
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: the sideline at the end of the game.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Like not happy at all. Yeah.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that with either Vista this
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: year and and I'll say Tom when he quits. You
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: on Judkins transferred to Ohio State, all the all this
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: people told you locker room cancer. Everybody's happy to be
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: rid of them. I've not seen anything like that from
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: the midde Ohio State.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Well, they also said they could replace him with a
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: series of tubes or whatever they said, and that hasn't
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: necessarily worked out zero Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so that hasn't
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: necessarily been true either. There's if you're familiar with the
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Boston Red Sox and what happens to players when they
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: leave the Boston Red Sox, there's always leaks to certain
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: reporters about how secretly this guy is. You know, I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: don't want to say a Nazi, but you know, not
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: not a great human being. You know, it's actually it's
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, when guys leave, it's sometimes there's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: there's a little bit of ret conning to explain things away.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Big Chevy says, definitely enjoying the extra content for this game.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: I drive a semi and you've kept me occupied with
• 48:17
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• 48:20
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• 48:22
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• 48:33
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• 48:35
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• 48:40
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• 48:44
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• 48:48
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• 48:53
  Speaker 2: interview clips from Brian a and Denzel Burke and Josh
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Fryer and a bunch of the organ players. Some really
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: really interesting stuff on the organ side. Dylan Gabriel, very
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: good interview, very you know, has some interesting stuff to say.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Johnny Cornelius, they're starting right tackle for Oregon. He was
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: he came down to Ohio State or Oregon when he
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: was in the transfer portal a year ago transferring out
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: of Rhode Island. In terms of where he was going
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: to go, obviously chose the Ducks. So I had a
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: couple of soundbites from him including why he you know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: what was it about Oregon that made him decide to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: go with the Ducks instead of the Buckeyes. Jabar Mohammad,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: the corner we talked about earlier, talked a little bit
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: about the challenge of covering Jeremiah Smith. Also talked about
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: the fact that hey, he played for. One of his
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: previous stops was at Oklahoma State where he played for
• 49:38
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• 49:41
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• 49:45
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• 49:46
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• 49:49
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• 49:51
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• 49:55
  Speaker 2: we have and then Friday, our plan is to being
• 49:58
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• 50:00
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• 50:03
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• 50:06
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• 50:09
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• 50:11
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• 50:12
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• 50:14
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• 50:17
  Speaker 2: the Buck guys arriving at their hotel, the traditional Friday
• 50:23
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• 50:27
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• 50:30
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• 50:36
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• 50:42
  Speaker 2: all of this is their flying cross country and then
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• 50:48
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• 50:52
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  Speaker 2: team is. After this isn't team. I mean, this is
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: an Ohio State team that is going on the road
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  Speaker 2: against the number three team in the nation, and the
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: consensus seems to be Ohio State is more talented despite
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: a very difficult road venue there. Broadly, it feels like
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the consensus is that Ohio State is likely to win
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  Speaker 2: the game. That in and of itself tells you, hey boy,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: in a year when there's been a lot of fluctuation
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: at the top of the sport, I think there are
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: people who view Ohio State is the surest of you know,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: not an absolutely sure thing, but the most sure of
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: the different things different teams in the nation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and showing it to everybody. I think Josh Friar
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: said it'll be They would like to show that they've
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: gotten better over the years, over the season, let everybody know.
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: And I don't think he was the only one that
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: was talking about just showing the college football world that
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Ohio State is what people think they are and doing
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: it in a place that not a lot of programs
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: will go. And of course Ohio State has been forced
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: to go, but they've tried to go before. But it's
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: not a place that is easy to win. And especially
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: if organ is as good as they are, you know,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: it's different if they're down and whatnot. They're not down.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: They are as in tune with national title hopes as
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: about seven other programs in the nation. They believe they
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: can win it. And they're certainly not just going to
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: let Ohio State come in and run all over them.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: But it might happen. It might happen, but it might not.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: And we're talking about the fact that there's this consensus
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: that Ohio State is likely to win and all that
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff. State it's still favored by three points.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: This is not a this is not a game where
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you know this is this is an absolute lead pipe
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  Speaker 2: loock that is going to winness by any means. And
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: I still think there's a real possibility. This is a
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: one score game into the fourth quarter, and there's a
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: real possibility that you get one play on special teams,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: you get one turnover from the from the Ohio State offense.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: This is absolutely a losible game for the Buckeyves. That
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: not even a question. This is a losible game. Bili says,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I truly believe this is going to be Caleb Downs
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: type of game. He's going to come up big Saturday night.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Well, this is an all eyes on you type of game.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: And I don't think Kale Down's minds that at all.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: And this is going to be a game where the
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: secondary is going to have to tackle and probably within
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: five yards of the line of scrimmage on a lot
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: of these pros, and if you don't, then something big
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: might happen. So Leith and Ransom, Caleb Downs, those two guys,
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know that there's a better duo of any
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: type of position in the nation. And I'm saying that
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: knowing that Ohio State has a duo with Jeremiah Smith
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: and Amca Luka Quincha Judkins and Trevion Henderson, Denzel Berki,
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Davis nig Noosen. I don't think anybody's playing as well
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: as Caleb Downs and Leath and Ransom in terms of
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: a pair.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: And we haven't heard them talk about this being a
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: safety driven defense this year, which is weird because they've
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: talked about it incessantly the entire time that Jim Mills
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: is there, and now that they have safety to really
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: drive it, it feels like that's almost getting taken for granted.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: That these are guys who are doing everything that could
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: possibly be asked, and they're getting asked to do a lot.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: This is not an easy defense to play safety in,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: but they're doing it and doing it just so not effortlessly,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: but just so consistently that you almost feel like they're
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: getting taken for granted a little bit. Market Act says,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: this game is going to be exciting, but is it
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: leading to an inevitable Part two in Indianapolis. Maybe it's
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's inevitable because if one of
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the you know, whoever loses obviously has one big ten loss,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Penn State could run the table. Penn State could you know.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: If Penn State beats Ohio State, then Penn State could
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: run the table. And then if Ohio State beats Oregon,
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: then Ohio State is gonna have the tiebreaker of Oregon.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: So it's gonna be Penn State, Ohio State. In in Indianapolis.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: I would tell people to root for USC tomorrow against
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Penn State or Saturday.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a this is Indiana, Yeah, this
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: is honestly, Indiana could be a one loss team. Indiana
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: could lose to Ohio State and no one else. That's
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: that's a real possibility as well. So yeah, there, this
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: is It's not inevitable. I still think the odds that
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Ohio State and Oregon. If you're giving me how many
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: times are they going to play this year and you
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: give me one and a half, I'm gonna take the
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: over on that. But it's not I'm not taking the
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: over on two and a half. I think it's I
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: think it's certainly possible, but not a guarantee. Final score
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: from Major League Baseball the Clfland Guardians five, the Detroit
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: Tigers score at the Alds going to Game five, Boy
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: and and there were the market acts had had one.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Tom and Kevin need to fight like men. If it's
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Dodgers versus Mets. I have a Guardians fan in my house.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: I have a Tiger's fan in my house. There is
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: a way that this this World Series, we're a long
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: way away. But boy, there's a way this world series
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: leads to some domestic strife in my house.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: I was going to say something about the last one,
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: but I've I've now missed.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: It the multiple times playing Oregon. Yeah, it's not important,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: never is. Barbart day Fisch says, these guys are the
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: most entertaining dual reporting in the Buckeyes. We just need
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: to hear Kevin Newton. Kevin speak to put the cherry
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: on top. Hilarious, noon, Thanks Barbara. I really am the
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: blue that holds a show together. Kevin Newton the glue factory.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: That's why I'll call him the glue factory. I got nothing.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: You're correct, Thank you, Kevin, Thank you, everybody? Anything else good?
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, So Drosey Dragon says, what if Indiana, Oregon, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Penn State all have one law?
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: The one thing I wanted to say, Just imagine, Curtis
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Rourke quarterback Indiana, came from Ohio. You had to transfer
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: to Indiana to win a conference championship. I couldn't do
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: it at Ohio. You know what I'm gonna do. I'm
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: gonna go to Indiana and I'm gonna win a Big
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Ten championship. That dude is playing really, really well and
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: it has been a great find for them, and that's
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: what they found him.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: They know who he was.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: But in terms of these three way ties, it comes
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: down to, like your record against common opponents, then your
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: record against the top level opponents of the Big Ten.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: So Ohio State having Northwestern and Purdue on the schedule
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: hurts them because you want to have a more difficult
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: schedule with better teams on it. But Indiana has UCLA
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: and you know, lester teams, Penn State, I don't know
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: exactly what they have, but basically, if you have a
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: better record against the top of the line, this is
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: like the fourth or fifth tie breaker, It gets pretty
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: it gets just stilled all the way down to a
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: coin flip after like the eighth tiebreaker. And so it
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: just depends on common opponents, what they've done against the
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: best teams in the conference and that sort of thing.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: So Indiana does not play the Penn State or Oregon,
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: and they don't think Oregon doesn't play Penn State. So
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: none of those three teams will play each other. So
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: you could potentially if Ohio State runs the table, each
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: of those teams could have one loss and it's two
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Ohio State eight, and then you get you get into
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: these really complicated tiebreakers. Of course, Tony, if it is
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: in Ohio State, Indiana tie and Indiana it comes out ahead.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: The Big Tank can always just change the rules. That's
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: the thing that could. That's the thing.
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: I apologize to the Hoosier fans that are watching this.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: That's just that's too low time.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Come on, anything else we need to get to before
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: we market x says, if Lathing was healthy against Michigan
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: last year, I'm almost sure we end up winning that game.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Safeties are the best in the country. That's that's up
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: there with Christian Bryant getting hurt in twenty thirteen, where yeah,
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: you had because if he's there and not sunny styles
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: on that blake Korm touchdown, maybe there's not a Blake
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Korm touchdown. And you know you can if in the
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: if an end and but any any of a number
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: of plays in that game. But that's certainly one where
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: you saw a couple plays pop against Ohio State, and
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: that was one of them, and that's where you would
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: have had Leath and Ransom.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: I can also go back to two thousand and six
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: Anderson Russell going down and then having to put Jamario
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: O'Neal in and or urban Meyer take advantage of that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: one big time against in the national championship game. Not
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: that was not at that point too. They were already
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: believing they had won a national championship before that game
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: was ever even played, So they were gonna lose that
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: one regardless. I believe Jamorio O'Neill but not do a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: great job blocking what's his name on?
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: Jarvis? Mall Jarvis? All right, Michael Lauria says, please say
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: you got to dart in your neck?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I laughed my butt off. Boy, we're not the members
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: of the traveling crew that I thought about that today. No, yeah,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: that was what it was at old school. Yeah, they
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: wrote that's awesome. Yeah, I think, uh oh we just
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: an hour? How about that? You're thinking? Good? There we go.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: We hit an hour live show. Kevin signals touchdown. Must
• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: as well do a bunch of content, That's what I say, Tony.
• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:59
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