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- 0:00Melissa Hortman led the House Democratic Caucus in Minnesota.
- 0:05Speaker Emerita, a woman who spent two decades doing the unglamorous work of state government, budgets, committee hearings, the stuff nobody puts on a poster.
- 0:18On June 14, 2025, a man named Vance Luther Belter put on a police uniform.
- 0:25He got himself a fake badge, drove to her home.
- 0:29He knocked on her door the way a cop knocks on your door, with the implied authority of the state behind his fist.
- 0:36And he shot her.
- 0:38He then shot her husband Mark.
- 0:40They both died in their home.
- 0:42That same night, he shot state Senator John Hoffman and his wife, and they survived.
- 0:48When investigators searched Balter's car, they found a list, nearly seventy names.
- 0:53Democratic lawmakers, abortion providers,
- 0:57People he'd researched, people he'd planned for.
- 1:01Here's the thing about that list.
- 1:03It wasn't a fantasy.
- 1:05It was a logistics document.
- 1:07He had names, he had addresses, and he had a uniform that let him walk right up.
- 1:13He had done the work, he had driven the routes.
- 1:16This was operational.
- 1:18And I want to be clear about what kind of moment this is.
- 1:23The US Capitol Police investigated nearly fifteen thousand threats in twenty twenty five.
- 1:30That's a sixty percent jump in one year.
- 1:33Pennsylvania's Governor Josh Shapiro, you might remember him as a presidential candidate in the Democratic process early on last time, his family was asleep when someone set his
- 1:45mansion on fire.
- 1:46Didn't vandalize it, set it on fire while the governor's children were inside.
- 1:53So the people who run this country are scared.
- 1:55Genuinely.
- 1:57Materially scared.
- 1:58And I'm not going to pretend that fear isn't real.
- 2:02But here's what keeps coming back up.
- 2:05When the powerful get scared, they don't build a moat around all of us.
- 2:10They build it around themselves.
- 2:28Welcome to the Overlap.
- 2:29This is the show about systems of power, labor, and American injustice.
- 2:34The places where those three things rub up against each other until something catches fire.
- 2:40I'm Joshua.
- 2:40Thank you for being here.
- 2:42And a quick word to my partner in this thing, Will, who I know is somewhere right now with about four tabs open, fact checking something that I'm gonna say wrong.
- 2:51Will, I hope you've eaten an actual meal today.
- 2:53Save some energy for the fact check.
- 2:55Okay.
- 2:56I want to talk about a moat, not a metaphorical one, or not only a metaphorical one.
- 3:04I want to talk about the actual physical fortification of the White House.
- 3:10The fences, the bunkers, the ballroom that turns out to be a shed sitting on top of an entire military industrial complex.
- 3:20The closed parks, the snipers who can see a thousand yards in every direction.
- 3:25And here's why now.
- 3:26Here's why this week.
- 3:28Here's why the first week of june twenty twenty six.
- 3:32Because as of late May, workers were laying the foundation for a ninety thousand square foot ballroom, where the East Wing used to be.
- 3:41They demolished the East Wing in October, you might remember that, demolished a bunker that had stood since nineteen forty two.
- 3:48This was the one Franklin Roosevelt built after Pearl Harbor, the one that sheltered Dick Cheney on september eleventh.
- 3:56To make room.
- 3:57And on the first of June, a major outlet ran a piece with a headline I haven't really been able to stop thinking about.
- 4:05The White House is the new green zone.
- 4:08The green zone.
- 4:10Like in Baghdad, you might not be familiar with green zones.
- 4:15They have blast walls and they have checkpoints.
- 4:18The occupying power walls itself off from the people it claims to govern.
- 4:24That's the comparison.
- 4:25American journalists looking at the seat of American power and they reach for Baghdad, Iraq.
- 4:33So here's the thing I want to do today.
- 4:35I want to take the history seriously because this didn't start in twenty twenty five.
- 4:41It didn't start in twenty twenty four or in twenty sixteen.
- 4:47It started with Roosevelt.
- 4:49It accelerated under Obama, believe it or not, and became a performance under Trump in twenty twenty.
- 4:56And I want to take the the present seriously, right?
- 5:00The dollars, the lawsuits, the judge who said stop, and the appeals court that said, no, just keep going.
- 5:07Because both things are true at once, like our White House press secretary likes to say.
- 5:14The threat is real.
- 5:16Melissa Hortman is dead.
- 5:18That's real.
- 5:19And the response that the moat, the wall, the underground complex, the bunker is not about protecting democracy.
- 5:28It's about protecting a person from people.
- 5:32And these are very different projects, right?
- 5:36Those are very, very different projects.
- 5:38Let's get into it.
- 5:40I want to take you back to nineteen forty two.
- 5:43The United States had just entered World War II.
- 5:45Pearl Harbor was December.
- 5:48The country is genuinely afraid.
- 5:51Afraid in a way that's for once proportionate to the actual threat.
- 5:56There are real enemies.
- 5:57There are real bombers.
- 5:59The fear has a return address.
- 6:02And Franklin Roosevelt's administration starts digging under the east wing of the White House.
- 6:07They built a bomb shelter.
- 6:09Reinforced concrete, secure communications, a place where basically the president could just keep on governing if bombs fell on Washington.
- 6:20Where the chain of command could survive, where the constitutional order could persist even if everything above the ground was just broken down into gravel.
- 6:31It gets a name eventually the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, the POC.
- 6:36You've probably heard it without knowing the acronym, because it's where they took Dick Cheney on september eleventh, two thousand one.
- 6:43He was reportedly underground within minutes of the second tower being hit, the vice president of the United States sitting in a chair in a bunker built by a man who'd been
- 6:53dead for fifty six years, watching the f towers fall on a screen like most of us were.
- 7:00And the continuity of government, the idea that the Republic
- 7:04A form of democracy keeps running, was supposed to live down there.
- 7:10That's what the room was built for.
- 7:12Now, think of the logic of 1942 for a second, because the logic actually holds up.
- 7:18There's a war, there's an external enemy, you build one secure room so that the constitutional order survives a decapitation strike.
- 7:28That's honestly, I mean, that's that's a defensible thing.
- 7:32For a country to do, you protect the institution so that the institution outlives the person, the man in this scenario.
- 7:41Well, if it's a president in every scenario, it's been a man.
- 7:45The institution outlives the man.
- 7:48Hold on to that, because we're gonna need it, right?
- 7:50Cause here's what happened to that nineteen forty two bunker.
- 7:55In October of twenty twenty five, they tore it down.
- 7:59The whole East Wing just demolished to build a ballroom.
- 8:03The thing Roosevelt built to keep our republic alive through bombs was knocked down to make room for a venue.
- 8:13Now that's a sentence I want you to like really absorb for a moment.
- 8:19The bunker built to preserve democratic governance through a world war demolished for a party room.
- 8:30But I'm getting ahead of myself.
- 8:32Let me give you the part of this history that nobody talks about because when we think about fortifying the White House, we think about Trump.
- 8:40And Trump is a huge part of this story, but the digging, right?
- 8:44The secret digging, that is bipartisan.
- 8:46That is institutional.
- 8:48Twenty eleven, when Barack Obama was president, there's a construction project at the White House, and the media starts calling the White House Big Dig.
- 8:59Now, what's the big dig?
- 9:02Officially, it's it's a utility upgrade, right?
- 9:05Routine maintenance, nothing to see here.
- 9:07Unofficially, the AP
- 9:10Takes a look and says, No, this is like way beyond a utility upgrade.
- 9:14We're talking about sprawling, multi-story underground structure near the West Wing.
- 9:19Truckload after truckload of concrete, steel beams, heavy structural work that doesn't have any obvious utility justification.
- 9:29And the scale of it, right?
- 9:30The footprint, the depth, the materials involved, none of it matched what the administration was actually describing it to be.
- 9:38And there's a detail in there that's easy to miss.
- 9:40The subcontractors, the guys like pouring the concrete.
- 9:44They were ordered by law not to talk to anyone.
- 9:48They were told to tape over the company information on their trucks, tape over the logos, make yourselves invisible.
- 9:55You are here, but officially you are not here, and the work you are doing does not exist.
- 10:00Tape over the logos.
- 10:01So you've got a secret underground facility being built at the seat of the company.
- 10:06Of American power, and the workers are just told to make their own employer invisible under a democratic president, a constitutional law professor, a guy who ran on
- 10:17transparency.
- 10:19And look, I I have uh I have affection for President Obama.
- 10:24He is the first president that changed my mind to the political standing that I came from.
- 10:32The the i i it it began to open my views about.
- 10:36The Democratic Party as a whole, but but liberalism on the left side of the center.
- 10:42But he gave speeches about how sunlight is a good disinfectant, and he ordered them to tape over the logo.
- 10:50Did they tell us what it was?
- 10:52No.
- 10:52I mean they they said utilities, right?
- 10:54The AP says no, it's not really utilities.
- 10:57And we don't fully know.
- 10:59Whatever's underneath the West Wing was built in twenty eleven, and we still, to this day, we don't have any sort of public accounting of what it actually is.
- 11:09I mean there are I'm sure there have been people down there.
- 11:11There there's gotta be cleaners and and you know, toilet scrubbers and maintenance and engineering technicians who handle.
- 11:18you know, utility lines and things.
- 11:20But we have no idea what is actually down there.
- 11:24And I'm not telling you to do like a it's both sides thing.
- 11:27I'm not.
- 11:28I'm telling you this because the impulse to like dig down to build secret to to to wall off yourself is not a partisan issue.
- 11:39It's an institutional one.
- 11:40The executive branch, the presidency, the seat of the presidency
- 11:46As a body, as an apparatus, has a permanent appetite for fortification, for protection, right?
- 11:54It just gets louder or quieter depend on depending on who's the person occupying that seat and what's happening in the country around them.
- 12:04Under threat, the institution's first instinct is dig, pour concrete, go deeper.
- 12:10Now Obama did it quietly, with tape over the logos.
- 12:14You barely notice the project because it was presented as kind of boring and and the trucks were anonymous.
- 12:21It was just, you know, concrete truck after concrete truck.
- 12:24Trump now Trump does it like a carnival act.
- 12:28It's a show, and that's the real change here, right?
- 12:31That's the thing I want you to sort of track from here.
- 12:35Not from like no wall to wall.
- 12:38We've had walls, we've had bunkers since nineteen forty two.
- 12:42There've always been fences.
- 12:43There's always been barriers, always been layer after layer of security between you, just a normal person and the Oval Office.
- 12:52The shift is from security as like this quiet institutional necessity to security as a performance of power.
- 13:01From the thing you do because you have to, to the thing you do because you want everyone else to see you doing it.
- 13:09Because the wall itself sends a message, and the wall is the statement.
- 13:15And the cleanest example of that shift, the founding document really of security as performance is
- 13:22Is june first, twenty twenty.
- 13:24You remember December of twenty twenty?
- 13:27Yeah.
- 13:27George George Floyd was killed on May twenty fifth, and protests erupted in every American city within days, all at the same time, on a scale that on a scale the country has never
- 13:39seen since the nineteen sixties.
- 13:41And in Washington, protesters had been gathering in Lafayette Square, which is the park.
- 13:48Directly in front of the White House if you've not been there.
- 13:51It sits on the north side of Pennsylvania Avenue, like across from the North Portico.
- 13:56And it is by design, like by historical purpose, by like the physical logic of its location, the place where Americans go to make the president hear them.
- 14:10That's its whole purpose, its whole function.
- 14:12You stand in Lafayette Square and you yell at that White House, and that and that's what it's for.
- 14:17Thomas Jefferson designed it that way.
- 14:19Its proximity is intentional.
- 14:22And on June first, about 30 minutes before the city's 7 p.m.
- 14:26curfew, so before anybody was even technically breaking curfew, before they'd even been given a legal reason to disperse, federal law enforcement moved in.
- 14:37Park police, Secret Service, Bureau of Prisons personnel, the National Guard, and they cleared Lafayette Square.
- 14:45How'd they do that?
- 14:46Same way they're doing it now.
- 14:47Tear gas, pepper balls, smoke canisters, riot shields, batons, people who were standing peacefully, right?
- 14:54Who really hadn't violated any law, who were still inside the window when they were legally permitted to be there.
- 15:02Those people got gassed.
- 15:04The order came from the Attorney General, Bill Barr, the convicted criminal, the served as time felon.
- 15:13He walked through the scene himself, surveyed the crowd and said attack.
- 15:18And then minutes later the president walks across the cleared square, walks across the ground they had just poured tear gas onto, past the smoke still hanging in the air to
- 15:28Saint John's Episcopal Church, which sits on the north side of Lafayette Square.
- 15:32The church that has held prayer services for presidents since James Madison.
- 15:37The church whose own rector.
- 15:40was one of the people the gas had had gotten to and driven away.
- 15:46And he holds up that Bible for the photo.
- 15:48That's it.
- 15:50That's what it was for.
- 15:52That man walked across a park and held up a book for a camera.
- 15:57And here's what they didn't want you to know.
- 15:59Earlier in those protests, Trump had spent time in the bunker, the Roosevelt bunker, right?
- 16:04The Peac.
- 16:05While their protests were their loudest outside, while the crowds were the biggest, the president was underground.
- 16:12Now that lootin that news, like news anywhere, it didn't sit well with somebody, and it was leaked.
- 16:21Somebody told a reporter, right, and that's the image, right?
- 16:25The president of the United States hiding underground with his hands covering his widow eyes, his widow hands covering his widow eyes while the country burned above him.
- 16:36And that image got out.
- 16:38And apparently he was pissed.
- 16:41Not at like the danger of it all, at the the leak, at the image of himself as a man who hides.
- 16:47A man who goes underground, a mole man, if you will.
- 16:51So the gas, the Bible, the walk, read it again, right?
- 16:55That's not security.
- 16:58It's the opposite of the bunker.
- 17:00It's a man who got called out for being a coward, staging a performance of dominance on the specific spot where days before he'd been humiliated.
- 17:11That bunker was weakness.
- 17:14The screen.
- 17:14Like square clearing out was the correction.
- 17:18That's that's that's the logic.
- 17:19There's no chess here.
- 17:20Like this is just just as bad checkers.
- 17:23And by the end of that week, one point seven miles of new fencing around the White House complex, one point seven miles of new fencing around the ellipse, around Lafayette Square,
- 17:37described the time a as without precedent in the modern era.
- 17:42Era, era, era.
- 17:44The kind of perimeter that had never been set up.
- 17:48Around the people's house outside of an active military emergency.
- 17:54No precedent.
- 17:55Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer demanded he take it down.
- 18:00I'm assuming they wrote a sternly worded letter.
- 18:03They called Lafayette Square a place, and I want to quote this, where Americans can gather to freely exercise their constitutional rights in close proximity to the White House.
- 18:16In close proximity to the White House.
- 18:19The proximity?
- 18:20Yeah, that's the whole thing.
- 18:22That's what was being walled off.
- 18:24Not a threat, a proximity, the ability of people to stand close enough to our seat of power that the people inside could not just pretend that they didn't exist.
- 18:38And everybody said, well, it's temporary.
- 18:41All of the Trump apologists, well it's an emergency measure.
- 18:44The fence comes down when things calm down.
- 18:47Things were calmed down by August.
- 18:49But by September the protests had largely moved on.
- 18:52That fence was still there.
- 18:54The fence did not come down.
- 18:56And now in twenty twenty six, that fence is permanent.
- 19:00That's how it always goes, right?
- 19:02The emergency measure that becomes furniture.
- 19:06The temporary fence that's still there six years later, except now, it has a name, it has a budget line, and much like the monkeys in the electrical ladder room, nobody can really
- 19:22quite remember the official moment.
- 19:24It stopped being temporary and just became the way that things are.
- 19:28And investigators later confirmed it.
- 19:29The Interior Department's own inspector general, a House Committee report.
- 19:34The square wasn't cleared for security, it was cleared to install fencing and stage a photo op.
- 19:40The inspector general's report found that officials had been coordinating on the fence installation before the order was clear.
- 19:49Like before the order was even given.
- 19:52The protesters were moved so the fencing crew could come in, and that's the whole story.
- 19:58So the institution didn't outlive the man.
- 20:01The man rearranged the institution around himself.
- 20:05And then he made sure that that rearrangement stuck.
- 20:08And that's the bridge to now because everything that happened in twenty twenty was a one off, right?
- 20:13It w as an outrage, but without precedent emergency.
- 20:17All of this has now been built in concrete.
- 20:19Literally.
- 20:20I mean, they're pouring the foundation as we're having this podcast, as you're listening.
- 20:25So let's look at this machine that they're building.
- 20:29So, what does the moat actually look like in 2026?
- 20:33Let me walk you around it.
- 20:34I'll give you the full picture because when when you see all of it together, not just the ballroom, not just the fence, but the whole collection.
- 20:43It kind of lands differently.
- 20:45In January of twenty twenty six, more fencing goes up around Lafayette Square, and not new fencing replacing like old fencing, additional fencing.
- 20:54The perimeter expands, the buffer zone grows.
- 20:58May the ellipse.
- 21:00That big open lawn on the south side of the White House complex, the one where they they light the national Christmas tree every year.
- 21:07The one that is by law, by by the statute that created it supposed to be open to the public, closed.
- 21:14Barriers installed, like full vehicle barriers.
- 21:17And the lawn where families have stood for decades to watch the tree lighting, the lawn where citizens have gathered for inauguration crowds visible from the South Portigo is
- 21:27closed.
- 21:28Now sure, they're erecting an annoying UFC octagon on the White House lawn right now.
- 21:35But that's not about America.
- 21:37Entry from the east side of the White House, that is currently impossible.
- 21:40The construction barriers and the ballroom project have made it physically inaccessible.
- 21:45You cannot approach the grounds from the east direction.
- 21:49At least half a dozen of Trump's cabinet members and senior staff have moved into military housing.
- 21:55Think about what that means.
- 21:57The people who run the federal government, like the secretaries of major departments, senior White House officials, no longer feel safe living in the city that the government
- 22:05runs.
- 22:06They have retreated inside military perimeters.
- 22:10They have decided that Washington DC, the capital of the country that they administer, is not safe enough for them to sleep in without a fence and a guard and a gun between them
- 22:21and the city.
- 22:22The Secret Service is investigating forty percent more cases than the same period last year.
- 22:29Seven more times more cases involving people with mental health issues.
- 22:33The deputy director, um, man named Matthew Quinn, said the threat environment had, and I'm gonna use his exact words, gone exponential.
- 22:44That's not not a bureaucratic word, right?
- 22:46Like that's not like a legal term.
- 22:48This guy is scared.
- 22:50Or he's at least alarmed.
- 22:53Three times in four weeks, gunfire broke out near the White House while agents were protecting the president or the vice president.
- 23:00Three separate incidents in four weeks.
- 23:04By the time they added up the third one, it wasn't a pattern, it was just like a routine, it was a condition.
- 23:11And on the roof you can see snipers that can see a thousand yards in every direction.
- 23:17Now look, I'm not gonna stand here and tell you that there's no threat.
- 23:21I opened this episode with a murdered state legislator, right?
- 23:25The threat is real.
- 23:26The numbers are real.
- 23:27And Matthew Quinn he might be a butthead, but he's not wrong.
- 23:31And here's the question that keeps popping up over and over.
- 23:35And look, I want to be honest that I'm genuinely chewing on this, not just like performing the answer that I already have.
- 23:42When the threat goes up, who gets protected?
- 23:46Because here's what the moat is not, right?
- 23:49The moat is not more protection for state legislatures and their homes.
- 23:54Melissa Hortman didn't have a sniper on her roof.
- 23:56She had a front door, like the rest of us.
- 23:59The moat is not a protection for healthcare providers on Beltler's hit list.
- 24:04The clinic workers, the doctors, the nurses who show up every day knowing that their name might be on some spreadsheet somewhere.
- 24:13And you know, I mean, these people have to use Excel, they're not using modern solutions.
- 24:17It's not protection for the school board members getting death threats over library books.
- 24:24It's not protection for the election workers who are
- 24:26Who have now started needing police escorts to count ballots?
- 24:31The moat is protection for one building, one office, one man.
- 24:38And it is expensive.
- 24:39Let me give you the dollars because the dollars are where the story becomes uh undeniable.
- 24:45The ballroom.
- 24:4790,000 square feet.
- 24:50When Trump first announced it.
- 24:51in July of twenty twenty five, he said two hundred million dollars, and this is important, right?
- 24:56This is the part I need you to kind of remember.
- 24:59He promised it would be at no charge to the taxpayer whatsoever.
- 25:03He said it would be privately funded.
- 25:05He said it will cost the American people nothing.
- 25:09By October, the estimate was three hundred million.
- 25:13By this year, four hundred million.
- 25:15The project that was going to cost taxpayers zero dollars in six months of planning doubled in cost before a single pound, a single yard of concrete was poured.
- 25:28And then the no charge to the taxpayer thing just falls apart completely because the Senate Judiciary Committee, Republican controlled, not one Democratic opposition play,
- 25:40requests one billion biblion dollars in additional security funding tied to this project.
- 25:49two hundred and twenty million of that sum is specifically labeled ballroom security improvements.
- 25:57So the thing that was gonna cost you nothing now has a one billion dollars security ask attached to it.
- 26:04Moving through a Republican Senate, the math on no charge to the taxpayer doesn't work anymore.
- 26:12It's funny how that works, right?
- 26:14And then in March of this year, 2026, Trump again said the quiet part out loud.
- 26:20He says, and I'm quoting this directly, the military is building a big complex under the ballroom.
- 26:26He describes the ballroom as essentially a shed.
- 26:30A shed.
- 26:31His words, not mine.
- 26:33The four hundred million dollar ballroom with the chandeliers and the tacky gold finishes.
- 26:38And the venue capacity for heads of state, that's the shed, right?
- 26:42That's the cover story.
- 26:43That's the the tape over the truck logo.
- 26:46The real project is the military complex underneath.
- 26:50The one we're not getting dimensions on.
- 26:53The one we're not getting line by line budget items for.
- 26:56The one we're not getting a public description of just a big complex.
- 27:02The military is building it, that's all we know.
- 27:05Same playbook, right, as Obama's big dig, routine sounding project on the surface, secret structure below, no transparency about what's actually down there.
- 27:15And if you ask too many questions, you're told you don't understand the security implications.
- 27:19Here's this th the thing about how they they push this through, right?
- 27:22There's a process for changing the White House grounds.
- 27:26Especially if you're all about the rule of law, there is a process for how that happens.
- 27:31They're supposed to be, anyway.
- 27:33The National Capital Planning Commission reviews major construction projects in Washington.
- 27:38The Commission of Fine Arts weighs in on the projects that affect historic and architecturally significant sites.
- 27:46Environmental review is required.
- 27:48Congressional authorization is required for spending of this magnitude.
- 27:53Those aren't bureaucratic obstacles, they are the designed mechanisms by which the public retains some influence over what happens to its property.
- 28:01The White House is public property.
- 28:03Those processes exist because of that fact.
- 28:07They blew past all of it.
- 28:10No prior review for the Planning Commission, no environmental impact statement, no congressional authorization.
- 28:16They literally tore down the East Wing, a historic structure, before any of the required review processes had finished.
- 28:24Before they'd even been properly initiated, the bulldozers just went in and before the paperwork.
- 28:31They also cut down two magnolia trees in the process.
- 28:34Trees that were planted in nineteen forty two and nineteen forty seven.
- 28:39Trees that had been on the White House grounds for almost eighty years were
- 28:43About the same time that Trump's been alive, just gone.
- 28:46Because they were in the way.
- 28:48The Commission of Fine Arts opened a public comment period.
- 28:51They received two thousand comments.
- 28:53Now this is a record number for this process.
- 28:55Ninety nine percent of those comments were opposed to the project.
- 29:00Two thousand people took time out of their lives to formally register their objection.
- 29:05Ninety nine percent of them said no.
- 29:07And it didn't matter.
- 29:09You want to know how it cleared the National Planning Commission?
- 29:12Eight to one.
- 29:13On April second, and here's the detail that should stop you cold, the chair of that commission, the man presiding over the vote to approve Trump's ballroom, is a man named
- 29:24Will Sharf.
- 29:25Very close to Sharp, who also happens to be Trump's staff secretary.
- 29:30The president's own staffer chairs the commission that approves the president's project.
- 29:35He literally presides over that process.
- 29:37He calls the vote, he announces the outcome.
- 29:39That's not oversight.
- 29:41That's a man approving his own boss's homework while sitting in the chair that's supposed to belong to the public interest.
- 29:49Did the public get a say?
- 29:50Well, technically yes.
- 29:51Two thousand comments.
- 29:52Did it matter?
- 29:53No.
- 29:54Eight to one.
- 29:55The record number of objections produced the same result as zero objections.
- 30:00Would it?
- 30:01And look, there's more coming, I apologize.
- 30:04On march fourteenth, twenty twenty six, a proposal emerged for a thirty three thousand square foot underground security screening center beneath Sherman Park, southeast of the
- 30:16White House.
- 30:18Seven screening lanes, before you could reach the White House grounds at all, you would have to enter a park, descend underground, pass through seven lanes of security screening,
- 30:29and then surface somewhere near the building.
- 30:32The operational target is July 2028, six months before Trump's term would end.
- 30:38No cost estimate, just the design, just the intent.
- 30:43Under a park, you enter the people's house by tunneling under a public park through a facility the public had no meaningful voice in actually approving.
- 30:54There was a judge who tried to stop it.
- 30:55His name is Richard Leon.
- 30:58The federal district judge in Washington.
- 31:00The National Trust for Historic Preservation sued.
- 31:04The lawsuit was filed in December.
- 31:06It was December twelfth, twenty twenty five.
- 31:09And Judge Leon issued a preliminary injunction.
- 31:12He looked at the project, looked at the authorizing statutes, and ruled very clearly that no law gave the president the authority to demolish and rebuild the White House grounds
- 31:23without congressional authorization.
- 31:25He said stop construction.
- 31:27Whatever you're building, stop until this is sorted out.
- 31:30Of course, as is the MO now, the administration immediately appealed this, and the DC Circuit Court of Appeals issued an administrative stay, keep building.
- 31:42The stay ran through June fifth, which when I recorded this was this week.
- 31:47So while the lawsuit about whether any of this is even legal is still actively pending, the foundation is being poured.
- 31:54Concrete is going into the ground, work is continuing.
- 31:58Because once the concrete's down, the question becomes more academic.
- 32:03You can win the lawsuit.
- 32:04You can get a ruling that says the whole thing was unauthorized and illegal and never should have happened, but that concrete will still be there.
- 32:11The structure will still be there.
- 32:14Being right after the fact doesn't unbreak a plate.
- 32:18The violation becomes permanent, and permanent violations have a way of becoming facts on the ground that everyone eventually works around.
- 32:28So that's the mechanism, right?
- 32:29That's the whole mechanism in its simplest form.
- 32:32Move faster than the law, build it before the courts can get a ruling, make the violation a done deal so any additional rulings after the fact is in your favor, arrives in a world
- 32:43the ruling can't really change.
- 32:45When the argument after it stops mattering.
- 32:48And I sit with this and I I do.
- 32:51Because part of me wants there to be like a villain cartoonish enough.
- 32:56You can just point and say, look that guy, get rid of that guy, and we're done.
- 33:00But the big dig was Obama.
- 33:02The original bunker was Roosevelt.
- 33:05The impulse to fortify, to dig underground, to make the executive safe and hidden, that's institutional.
- 33:15That predates any single president, whether it be the first or the last.
- 33:21What Trump added wasn't the digging.
- 33:23What he added was the contempt, the the openness of it, the what are you gonna do about it kind of genus quaavit.
- 33:33Ninety nine percent of you filed comments saying no.
- 33:36Eight to one approved, concrete's poor, and what are you gonna do about it?
- 33:40The judge said stop, the appeals court said keep going.
- 33:42What are you gonna do about it?
- 33:44That's the machine.
- 33:45That's what it looks like when it's running full speed ahead.
- 33:48Take a breath.
- 33:49I want to tell you about April twenty fifth, twenty twenty six.
- 33:54Because this is the event that the administration reaches for to justify all of it.
- 34:00This is the proof they offer, and I want you to actually understand what happened.
- 34:03I I want you to understand what the administration does with what happened because those are very different things.
- 34:10They're two dim diametrically opposed, unrelated, correlated but not causated things.
- 34:16A man named
- 34:17Cole Thomas Allen, thirty-one years old from Torrance, California.
- 34:21He bought a 12-gauge pump action shotgun on August 17th.
- 34:26So he'd been armed, had been equipped for eight months before he actually did anything about it.
- 34:31Whatever he was planning, he had time to think about it.
- 34:34On april twenty fifth, he took a train from Los Angeles to Washington, DC, cross country, days on that train.
- 34:41And when he got there, he checked into the Washington Hilton, which is the venue for the White House Correspondence Center.
- 34:48The big event every year was
- 34:51The one that's been a Washington institution for over a hundred years or whatever, where the president and the press corps and about twenty six hundred people informal wear all
- 35:01sit in this hotel ballroom on Connecticut Avenue and they ate chicken and they listen to jokes.
- 35:06Trump was there, Vice President Vance was there.
- 35:08Senior cabinet officials, twenty six hundred people in a single room.
- 35:12And around eight forty PM, Allen ran through the magno whatever device that detects metal.
- 35:20Carrying the shotgun.
- 35:22And he shot a Secret Service officer in the chest.
- 35:25Now look, that officer lived because of a you know, a bulletproof vest.
- 35:30The round hit him center mass and the vest stopped it.
- 35:34That officer went home.
- 35:36That officer's family got to keep their their dad, you know, their husband, whatever, because somebody at some point made sure that that he was wearing a bulletproof vest.
- 35:46Before the attack, Allen actually sent an email to his family and and his uh old boss and it's and he signed it Cole friendly federal assassin Allen.
- 35:57Now, the DOJ found that Trump was the intended target.
- 36:02Now, I want to be careful here because this is exactly the kind of moment where it would be easy to lose the point.
- 36:10And I don't want to do that.
- 36:11This was a real assassination attempt.
- 36:13A man with a loaded shotgun inside the security perimeter of an event where the president was present, an officer took around in the chest.
- 36:21That officer has a family who received a phone call that night that it
- 36:25That it's not nothing, right?
- 36:27It's the opposite of nothing.
- 36:28The threat is real.
- 36:30And I keep saying it because I need you to to understand that I it's it's true and I believe it's true.
- 36:36And I want you to hear that in your ears when I say what comes after this.
- 36:41So here's what comes after this within days.
- 36:44Some say it was within minutes.
- 36:46Trump called this shooting as justification for the ballroom.
- 36:50The ballroom.
- 36:52The four hundred million dollar ballroom with the secret military complex underneath, the one being poured right now.
- 37:01He pointed at Cole Allen and said, See, this is why.
- 37:04This is what we're protecting against.
- 37:07And then his acting attorney general, Todd Blanch, got on X and
- 37:13Created an excretion publicly calling on the National Trust for Historic Preservation to drop their lawsuit.
- 37:20Not a private communication, a public letter to the editor.
- 37:24The sitting attorney general of the United States posting publicly calling on a historic preservation nonprofit to abandon civil litigation against the executive branch, using an
- 37:35assassination attempt as the leverage.
- 37:38Basically, a man tried to shoot the president, your lawsuit's getting in the way of his safety, drop it.
- 37:43You see the move?
- 37:45The shooting happening in a in in a hotel, the Washington Hilton on Connecticut Connecticut Avenue Northwest.
- 37:51Not the White House.
- 37:52Cole Allen didn't try to breach the White House fence.
- 37:55He didn't he didn't approach the new perimeter or test the new barriers.
- 37:59He just bought a ticket to an event the president was attending at a hotel across town.
- 38:04Walked in through the front door and shot an officer.
- 38:07At the metals detectors.
- 38:09ballroom being built at the White House would not have stopped Cole Allen.
- 38:13The underground screening facility would not have stopped Cole Allen because Cole Allen wasn't at the White House.
- 38:20I'm gonna say that again.
- 38:21Cole Allen wasn't at the White House.
- 38:25The threat and the proposed solution are not in the same location.
- 38:30But it doesn't have to make any sense.
- 38:32It just has to be available.
- 38:34A real tragedy available to justify a project that was already in motion long before april twenty fifth.
- 38:40The foundation was being poured before Allen bought that train ticket.
- 38:45Cole Allen gave them a better story to tell while they poured it.
- 38:49The concrete and the moral justification arrived in the same news cycle, and that's all that the administration needed.
- 38:57That's the thing about real fear.
- 38:59Legitimate, genuine fear is the most powerful political tool in the world for people who want to build walls.
- 39:08Because you cannot argue against it without sounding like you don't care that an officer took a round in the chest.
- 39:14And I do care.
- 39:16Genuinely.
- 39:16Like I I deeply care about this country.
- 39:19That officer's survival is not incidental to this story.
- 39:24It's the best thing in this story.
- 39:26But caring about that officer and questioning whether a four hundred million dollars ballroom with a secret military complex at the bottom of it approved by the president's
- 39:37staff built without congressional authorization, over the objection of ninety nine percent of public commenters, caring about the officer and questioning the product, the project,
- 39:52the ballroom, the
- 39:54Bunker are not in conflict.
- 39:57They were made to seem like they're in conflict because somebody needed them to be.
- 40:02Somebody needed you to feel like skepticism about the ballroom meant indifference to the shooting.
- 40:09That's the work the fear is doing.
- 40:11That's what it's for.
- 40:12That that's that's what Fox News sells to all of the sheeple sitting around watching it twenty four hours a day.
- 40:20Now I want to go back to Lafayette Square because there's a case there too.
- 40:25And it's the other side of this exact same coin.
- 40:27Black Lives Matter DC and a coalition of other organizations sued the federal government over june first, twenty twenty.
- 40:35That clearing of the of the Lafayette Square.
- 40:39First Amendment claims, Fourth Amendment claims, the right to peaceably assemble, the right against unreasonable force.
- 40:45The case argued that what happened in Lafayette Square that evening was not a security operation, but a constitutional violation.
- 40:53The government used the instruments of force against people, citizens, for exercising the rights those instruments were supposed to protect.
- 41:03And there's a detail from the litigation that I want to point out.
- 41:07The Defense Department's lead military officer, the senior official in charge of the operational response that night, wanted to go further.
- 41:17Before that clearing began, he had asked about deploying two specific weapons on the protesters.
- 41:24One was an active denial system.
- 41:26That is a directed energy weapon that works.
- 41:31Like a microwave by heating the water molecules beneath your skin.
- 41:36It makes the person receiving this directed energy weapon feel as though their entire body surface is on fire.
- 41:45It's designed to cause unbearable pain instantly, which drives people away from the area.
- 41:53Without actually leaving visible marks.
- 41:55The military calls it a non lethal crowd control tool.
- 42:00The other was an LRAD, long range acoustic device.
- 42:05You can look up videos on YouTube of several people creating their own and testing them in various ways, but
- 42:11The way that it works is that it takes focused sound at physically painful intensity levels, which disorients the person and makes the area around the device unbearable to
- 42:26physically exist in.
- 42:28He wanted to use these weapons on peaceful Americans standing in a public park exercising their constitutional right to assemble in front of the House, the White House, the
- 42:41people's house.
- 42:44Now they didn't use them, right?
- 42:47But the the reason that they didn't use them is not because somebody said no.
- 42:51The reason is that the National Guard units deployed that night
- 42:54didn't physically have those weapons in their inventory that day.
- 42:58Inventory, logistics, not policy, not restraint, not somebody in command who looked at a crowd and said, These are citizens, I'm not gonna do this.
- 43:09Just well, it's not in the truck.
- 43:12That case settled in April of twenty twenty two.
- 43:15The Park Police and Secret Service agreed to revise their protest policing policies.
- 43:20The Interior Department's Inspector General had already figured out that the clearing was done in direct consult consultation with Attorney General Bill Barr, specifically to
- 43:30install fencing.
- 43:32A House Committee report found that Trump likely directed the entire thing for the photo op.
- 43:38The settlement was real.
- 43:39The policy revisions were real, but the square is still fenced.
- 43:44The perimeters stayed expanded.
- 43:46The precedent of federal force clearing people from the public space in front of the White House, that precedent was set.
- 43:54And precedents are important because they have gravity.
- 43:57So here's the pattern.
- 43:59I've laid it bare across two cases.
- 44:01Cole Allen, man with a shotgun in a hotel, gets used to justify walling off the people's house, justifies the ballroom, justifies the billion dollar security ask, justifies
- 44:13billing building a military complex bunker underground beneath the venue where the president wants to entertain.
- 44:23Greatest show on earth, people.
- 44:24And the people in Lafayette Square, the people exercising the exact constitutional right that the square was designed to protect.
- 44:33The right that Nancy Pelosi described as happening in close proximity to the White House, as though that proximity were the whole point, which it is, those people got gassed, and
- 44:43someone wanted to hit them with a heat ray.
- 44:46It was just bad planning that stopped it.
- 44:50One group is the reason for the wall, the other group is who the wall is against.
- 44:55And they're not the same group.
- 44:57That's the thing I need you to hold right now because it's the center of everything I'm trying to say today.
- 45:03The threat that justifies the moat and the people the moat keeps out, those are different populations.
- 45:11The murderer travels by train to a hotel, the protester
- 45:14Stands in a park with a sign.
- 45:17The wall doesn't distinguish between either of them.
- 45:21The wall is not designed to distinguish between them.
- 45:24The wall was designed to keep the second group away from the first building, and to use the first group as the reason.
- 45:32That's the architecture of it, physically and politically.
- 45:36Let's pull this all the way back and show you the shape of it because when you lay the whole timeline out, right?
- 45:4142 to 2026, Roosevelt to the foundation being poured this week, a shape emerges that I think is worth naming.
- 45:501942, Roosevelt digs a bunker so the Republic survives the bombs.
- 45:56The logic is explicit and genuinely noble.
- 45:58Protect the institution so the institution outlives the person.
- 46:02Build the room that keeps the constitutional order order going if the worst happens.
- 46:06The president matters less than the presidency.
- 46:09The man dies, the office endures, that's the design.
- 46:12twenty twenty five, they demolished that exact bunker to build a ballroom for one man with a secret military complex underneath.
- 46:19The logic has inverted completely.
- 46:22Now it's rearranged the entire institution so it serves a man.
- 46:28Remove the structure built for continuity of democracy and
- 46:31and replace it with a structure for the comfort and power of a very specific occupant.
- 46:39That's the the through line, right?
- 46:41Like that's the the the needle that we're threading here.
- 46:45The institution outlives the man.
- 46:48That was the whole American idea.
- 46:50Presidents come and go, the office indoors, the building belongs to the people.
- 46:55That's why it's called the People's House.
- 46:58That's not a slogan.
- 46:59That's not like, you know, flowery language.
- 47:02That's the architecture of all of it.
- 47:04The building was designed to be accessible.
- 47:07The square in front of it was designed for closeness, proximity.
- 47:11Jefferson didn't leave Lafayette Square there by accident.
- 47:15The closeness was the design, it was the point.
- 47:18And that's what we're watching in real time, with concrete being poured this week, is the conversion of the people's house into a personal fortress for the man that currently holds
- 47:29it.
- 47:30Not a fortress for the office.
- 47:32A fortress for the man.
- 47:34Every piece fits together.
- 47:35The fence that was without precedent in twenty twenty becomes permanent by twenty twenty six.
- 47:41The square where Americans gathered in close proximity to the White House is closed, the ellipse closed, entry from the east closed, visitors will soon either enter by tunneling
- 47:52under a park through a seven lane underground screening facility before they're allowed anywhere near the grounds.
- 47:59The cabinet has moved to military bases.
- 48:02Deciding that the capital city is just too dangerous for them to live in, and the snipers see a thousand yards in every direction.
- 48:08And the public said no.
- 48:10Well, two thousand people said no, a record number.
- 48:13Ninety-nine percent of them said no.
- 48:15And they were overridden eight to one by a commission chaired by the president's own employee.
- 48:21Here's what that means.
- 48:23When you follow it to its conclusion, the fortification isn't just physical.
- 48:28The physical wall is downstream of a different wall, the harder wall, the one that actually matters, the one that determines whether any of this can actually be stopped is
- 48:38the one around the decision making process itself.
- 48:42The blowing past the planning commission, the ignoring of public comment, the building before the court can rule, the using of a real shooting to publicly pressure a nonprofit
- 48:52into dropping a lawsuit.
- 48:54That's the moat.
- 48:56That matters most, not the fence.
- 48:58The fence is a symptom.
- 49:00The real moat is around accountability, around the ability of anyone, a federal judge, a planning commission, 2,000 citizens filing formal comments, a nonprofit withstanding to
- 49:12sue, to say no.
- 49:14And it actually means something.
- 49:17To say stop and the bulldozers actually stop to win the argument.
- 49:23And have the argument matter.
- 49:25And here's why I reached for the green zone at the beginning of this podcast.
- 49:30Why those American journalists looking at their own capital city reached for Baghdad?
- 49:36The Green Zone in Baghdad wasn't just walls, it was a way of seeing the world.
- 49:42It was an occupying authority that had made a fundamental decision.
- 49:46The population is a threat to be managed, not a people to be served.
- 49:53The blast walls were the architecture of that decision.
- 49:56The checkpoints were the architecture of that decision.
- 50:00The walls said in reinforced concrete, we are separate from you.
- 50:06We are above you, we are not accountable to you, and you cannot reach us.
- 50:11That is what blast walls mean, not just protection, a relationship.
- 50:16When the people who govern you wall themselves off from you, when they move into military bases, when they close the public parks,
- 50:23When they make you tunnel underground to get near them, when they clear the square with gas and L RADs and acoustic weapons so that a man can walk across it for a camera and a
- 50:35photo op with a Bible, they're telling you something about how they see you.
- 50:41You are a threat.
- 50:43And look, maybe some of you are.
- 50:45I mean, Cole Allen was, Vance Belter was, the threat is real.
- 50:50And I'll say it one final time because it has to stay true.
- 50:54The threat is real, but a democracy that responds to threat by walling off the powerful from everyone, rather than protecting everyone.
- 51:05That democracy has already made a choice about who matters.
- 51:09It was decided that the safety of the office, or or more accurately, the safety of the person currently in the office.
- 51:16matters more than the openness of the office.
- 51:20And the openness was the whole point.
- 51:22The openness was not a vulnerability that needed to be fixed.
- 51:26The openness was in the design.
- 51:30The proximity was intentional.
- 51:31Jefferson left the square to be there on purpose.
- 51:35You cannot have a people's house behind a thousand yard kill zone and still call it the people's house in good faith.
- 51:42You cannot have a public square
- 51:44That the public is not permitted to enter.
- 51:46You cannot have a government of, by, and for the people accessed by tunnel, screened underground, approved eight to one by the president's own secretary clerk, built over the
- 52:00objections of two thousand voices who exercised the exact process that was supposed to empower them.
- 52:07When the executive branch fortifies itself against the people, democracy is already losing the argument because the argument was supposed to be settled.
- 52:17The argument was supposed to be you can reach us.
- 52:21You can stand in the square and yell at the house.
- 52:24You can stand close enough that the people inside can't just pretend that you're not there.
- 52:29We are yours.
- 52:31you.
- 52:34That proximity, that ability to yell through the fence to hold the sign within sight of the window was the operationalization of the whole idea.
- 52:45And the moat is the response to that argument.
- 52:47The concrete foundation being poured this week is the answer to that argument.
- 52:52The moat says no.
- 52:54You can't reach us.
- 52:56We don't have to see you, and we don't have to hear you.
- 53:00Because we've built something between you and us that you cannot cross.
- 53:05That's what concrete means.
- 53:07That's what's being poured this week.
- 53:09Not just a foundation for a ballroom, a foundation for that answer.
- 53:14That answer made permanent, made physical, made ours to live with.
- 53:20So what do you do?
- 53:21Because I don't I I hate to leave you just angry, you know, just pissed off.
- 53:25Anger without a door is just despair with extra steps.
- 53:29And we've got plenty enough to spare.
- 53:31Let me give you three doors.
- 53:32Three things.
- 53:33Each one's different.
- 53:34Each one is doable.
- 53:36Each one is connected to a specific lever in this specific fight.
- 53:41First thing, personal, and and you can do it in five minutes today.
- 53:46Look up the National Trust for Historic Preservation versus Trump case.
- 53:51Read the filing.
- 53:53Savingplaces.org has it, uh, and it's more readable than you'd expect from a legal document.
- 53:58And I'm not asking you to become a lawyer.
- 53:59Will shout out to you, brother.
- 54:02I'm asking you to just know the thing.
- 54:04I mean, put it into Chat GPT and get a summary or whatever you're gonna do with it.
- 54:09I want you to be the person in the conversation who understands it and can say, look, here's what the judge found, here's what the appeals court did, here is the specific legal
- 54:17question that is still pending while the concrete is drying.
- 54:21The single most powerful thing you can do against a moat around accountability is refuse to be ignorant of what's being decided with your name on it.
- 54:33Know the case, know the name, read the filing.
- 54:36Second thing.
- 54:37Community and financial the legal fight here is being carried by organizations that spend every single day fighting and litigating the limits of executive power, historic
- 54:50preservation groups, civil liberties organizations, public interest law firms.
- 54:55These are the same kinds of of organizations that fought the Lafayette Square Clearing and won a settlement that produced real policy changes.
- 55:03They were doing the work that formal oversight processes have failed us on because the processes have been captured.
- 55:10Will Sharf chaired the commission.
- 55:13Now remember, and the courts are the remaining lever.
- 55:17Find one of these organizations, the National Trust for Historic Preservation, the ACLU's DC chapter, throw them twenty bucks or five or whatever you got.
- 55:27Because these cases are
- 55:29Expensive.
- 55:29They cost real money.
- 55:30And the other side has a a one billion dollar security request moving through a Republican Senate, right?
- 55:36You tilt the scale by making sure the people doing the legal work can keep doing it.
- 55:41Voting's not enough anymore.
- 55:43I want you to show up and vote.
- 55:44I really do.
- 55:45Believe me, I want you to vote.
- 55:47But voting by itself now has not really turned out the way that we all hoped.
- 55:52Third thing, the political one, and this is not this is the specific.
- 55:57Contact, call your senator, both of them, and ask them one specific question.
- 56:01Don't rant, don't give them a speech, just a question.
- 56:03Will you vote against any appropriation that funds White House ballroom security?
- 56:08Given that the project bypassed the National Capital Planning Commission and was undertaken without congressional authorization.
- 56:15Make them answer that specific thing.
- 56:17Don't let them pivot to whether the threat is actually real.
- 56:21You already know the threat is real.
- 56:22I've told it to you.
- 56:23You can even tell them I told it to you.
- 56:26That's not the question.
- 56:27The question is whether your senator will let a billion dollars flow to a project that was approved by eight to one by the president's staff over the objection of ninety-nine
- 56:37percent of the public, while a federal lawsuit about it being legal is still pending.
- 56:45The one billion dollar security ask runs through the Senate.
- 56:48The Senate, you can call them and bug them to the end of the earth.
- 56:52The Capitol Switch Board is, and write this down.
- 56:55two zero two two two four three one two one five minutes, one question.
- 57:03That's it.
- 57:04Read the thing, fund the fight, make the call.
- 57:09So the thing ab this week that uh pissed me off was Lafayette Square.
- 57:14Not the gas or the Bible.
- 57:16Not not the image of a man walking across the cleared ground.
- 57:20I think about the name the people's house.
- 57:23That used to mean something, right?
- 57:25You could you could stand on the lawn and see the windows and yell.
- 57:28The distance between you and power was supposed to be small enough
- 57:32To walk.
- 57:34That was the design, that was the point of the design.
- 57:37They're pouring concrete to make that distance permanent, to make it measurable in yards, to make you tunnel under a park, to make the people's house something you can see from a
- 57:47distance but can't actually reach.
- 57:49Something you can comment on but can't stop, something that belongs to the people in name and to whoever holds the office in every material fact.
- 58:00Don't let the wall become the furniture.
- 58:02That's how it always wins.
- 58:03Not one catastrophic moment, not a single vote that everyone agrees was the turning point, but by accumulation, by becoming the thing that was just always there, that nobody can
- 58:16quite remember being built, that feels too permanent to question.
- 58:20The fence that was without precedent in 2020 feels normal now.
- 58:25That's the mechanism.
- 58:26That's how permanence works, right?
- 58:29It wasn't always there.
- 58:30Roosevelt built one room for the Republic to survive the bombs.
- 58:35They built a fortress for a man to survive the people.
- 58:39And we are allowed.
- 58:40No, we're required to remember the difference between those two projects.
- 58:45One was for the institution outliving the man.
- 58:49The other is for the man outliving the institution.
- 58:52And right now, this week
- 58:54With the foundation going in, we are watching the second project get poured in concrete.
- 58:59I am Joshua.
- 59:00This has been the overlap.
- 59:02You can find everything we do at FOF.foundation.
- 59:05Well, thank you, and thank you to all of you.
- 59:07Stay close to the house.
- 59:09It's yours.
- 59:11We'll see next week.
- 59:12Bye.