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Steve Price | 28 February · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live.
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Speaker 2: This is Steve Price, thanks to Deniki. You welcome to
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Speaker 2: Friday Night Steve Price with you. Last day of the month,
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Speaker 2: March tomorrow, and that of course means this federal election
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Speaker 2: date creeps ever closer. We'll have an update on that
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Speaker 2: for you during the program. There is some development on
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Speaker 2: that during today, Labor gets ever more desperate. More on
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Speaker 2: the traveling circus is what it is. That is Tony
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Speaker 2: Burke and his mass citizenship tour of Australia. This time
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Speaker 2: he's been in Perth. Now coming up on Price tonight,
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Speaker 2: the chickens coming home to roost. On Labour's rush to
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Speaker 2: green energy, with two of the leading energy company CEOs
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Speaker 2: this week warning that we are headed for a cliff.
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Speaker 2: I'll chat to The Australian's Graham Lloyd, the Environment editor,
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Speaker 2: on hold ups on Woodside's Northwest shelf gas lease extension
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Speaker 2: and model mean for you at home and your energy bills.
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, Campbell Newman is back our Friday Night regular
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Speaker 2: for Mcqueensland. I'll get his view on the industrial scale
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Speaker 2: citizenship voting turnouts that look like a vote buying exercise
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Speaker 2: to me With Tony Burke, plus this awkward moment in
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Speaker 2: the Oval Office today with Donald Trump seemingly not knowing
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Speaker 2: what UCAS is.
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Speaker 3: He discussed in aucus with the Prime Minister the sun
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Speaker 3: but what does that mean?
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Speaker 2: He didn't know, But I think there's also there and
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Speaker 2: equally worrying him. Just after that, it seemed to me
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Speaker 2: the President's knowledge of the British Australian connection and the
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Speaker 2: fact that Britain colonized Australia might have missed him in
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Speaker 2: his education. First up tonight we have have we ever
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Speaker 2: witnessed a more blatant attempt to convince New Australians to
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Speaker 2: vote Labor in the upcome federal election whenever that might
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Speaker 2: be Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke has embarked on a
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Speaker 2: national citizenship swearing into a weeks out from polling day now.
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Speaker 2: It started a week ago today. We talked about it
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Speaker 2: last Friday in Western Sydney, where there are a clutch
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Speaker 2: of seats Labour need to hang on to in the
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Speaker 2: face of a combination of a revitalized coalition the Greens
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Speaker 2: and of course a disaffected Muslim voting cohort that are
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Speaker 2: angry about a lack of support for Palestine posts that
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Speaker 2: terror raid on Israel on October seven. Now, Tony Burke
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Speaker 2: himself is under pressure in his own seat and Labor
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Speaker 2: would love to snatch Fowler off the Independent Lee. So
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Speaker 2: last week and over the weekend at Olympic Park, as
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Speaker 2: we knew, thousands of new migrants became Australian citizens.
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Speaker 1: Now Labor disputes.
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Speaker 2: This, but Die Lee was not invited to attend that
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Speaker 2: function while all the Labor candidates in the surrounding areas
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Speaker 2: were all there. Now Burke explains this a way as well.
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Speaker 2: I can't attend these things while Parliament is sitting, so
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Speaker 2: I've organized them around my diary.
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Speaker 1: Now no one believes that.
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Speaker 2: Now I must say I thought Homebush was the beginning
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Speaker 2: and end of this bid for migrant votes off the
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Speaker 2: back of becoming a proud Ossie.
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Speaker 1: But now how naive was I? Now?
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Speaker 2: As reported in The Australian Today, along with stage photos
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Speaker 2: of Tony Burke upfront looking like he's builting out the
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Speaker 2: national anthem, we learned that this is a nationwide mass
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Speaker 2: citizenship roller coaster, with Burke the circus master. Hundreds of
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Speaker 2: people in Perth yesterday and again today tomorrow. Guess what
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Speaker 2: it's Melbourne's turn, so watch out if you live in
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Speaker 2: the western or northern suburbs of that city. It's Brisbane's
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Speaker 2: turn on Sunday and to Woomba next Thursday. Now, well,
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Speaker 2: he's a very busy man, our Minister Burke. He needs
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Speaker 2: to get all of these migrants over the line signed
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Speaker 2: up before Parliament is forced into caretacer mode in preparation
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Speaker 2: for election day. Now, how's this for a fun fact?
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Speaker 1: Listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Those Western Australians sworn in on Thursday come from wait
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Speaker 2: for it, sixty six to Ozho. Different countries. Not bad
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Speaker 2: considering they're only one hundred and ninety five countries in
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Speaker 2: the world, including Vatican City, so roughly a third of
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Speaker 2: the world represented in that Thursday mass swearing in Perth,
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Speaker 2: and The Australian reports today their ages ranged from two
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Speaker 2: years old to ninety three. Now, Labor MPs hoping to
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Speaker 2: hang on to their seats at the election were all
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Speaker 2: in the crowd, with Hasluck MP Tanya Lawrence pointing out
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Speaker 2: to the freshly minted Australians that the electoral boundaries in
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Speaker 2: her own seat had changed. Then we had the Tangy MP,
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Speaker 2: both by the name of Sam limb who hangs on
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Speaker 2: by a thread in that seat. He was telling the
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Speaker 2: crowd how he came to this country from Malaysia. He
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Speaker 2: grew up back in his homeland in a house with
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Speaker 2: no toilet, kerosene lighting and a mud floor. He had
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Speaker 2: a worse upbringing obviously than even the Prime Minister. And
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Speaker 2: what of rags to riches story to inspire the crowd
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Speaker 2: to follow his lead into politics of the Labor brand,
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Speaker 2: of course, and turn their new nationhood into a proud
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Speaker 2: life life of service to the people of Australia. Now
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Speaker 2: to help all these new Aussies out on the voting thing.
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Speaker 2: You know where to vote and what you have to
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Speaker 2: do with preferential voting. The room was full of AEC
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Speaker 2: Australia and Electric Commission officials in purple t shirts wandering
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Speaker 2: around the room telling people about the voting process. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's really hard not to be cynical about this industrial
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Speaker 2: scale operation and what it does do in the middle
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Speaker 2: of a housing crisis again is shine a light on
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Speaker 2: how many migrants we're actually bringing in to our country.
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable funny to get to let's get stuck in
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Speaker 2: joining me. I'm pleased his his back my Friday regular
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Speaker 2: former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Good to see you again, Campbell, welcome.
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Speaker 2: Let's just stick with Tony Burke's shameless use of citizenship
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Speaker 2: ceremonies to try and corral more labor votes.
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Speaker 1: It's cynical politics.
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Speaker 2: But considering in some of these electorates it could come
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Speaker 2: down to a few hundred votes.
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Speaker 1: Could this actually work in labours?
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Speaker 4: Well, Steve, great to be back with you.
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Speaker 5: And as a former local government official, the Lord Mayor
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Speaker 5: of Brisbane, I've done a lot of citizenship ceremonies in
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Speaker 5: my time, so yeah, I think it really could make
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Speaker 5: the difference in critical electorates and I think when we
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Speaker 5: dissect this, we first we got to ask has there
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Speaker 5: been any sort of selection of locations or people who
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Speaker 5: come from locations to sort of get through the queue.
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Speaker 5: That'd be an interesting question to ask of the AAC
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Speaker 5: or indeed the Minister's office, not that he'd tell us.
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Speaker 5: I'll make another observation as well. This has been traditionally
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Speaker 5: delegated to local government, So what I'm saying there is
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Speaker 5: normally these ceremonies are undertaken by local councils and the
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Speaker 5: mayor of the local area presides. That's why I've done
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Speaker 5: an awful lot of them. And I'm not saying that
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Speaker 5: the minister hasn't come and done them before, but that
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Speaker 5: was that was the rule, and the exception was one
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Speaker 5: when a minister would be doing it. So the idea
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Speaker 5: that the actual minister is trapesing around Australia so close
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Speaker 5: to an election, a critically close election and undertaking the
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Speaker 5: MC sort of role or the presiding officer role, is
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Speaker 5: really really off. It is just doesn't satisfy the pub test.
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Speaker 5: And I could tell you now, under some provisions of
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Speaker 5: the law in Queensland, if he was a Queensland official,
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Speaker 5: I certainly be coming through the queens and Criminal Code
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Speaker 5: TOCY if for somehow a misuse of office. The queens
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Speaker 5: and Criminal Codes very powerful piece of legislation, so as
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Speaker 5: the Crime and Corruption Commission Act in this state. And
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's breached any law. I've been very
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Speaker 5: careful about that, but I'm saying that this looks like
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Speaker 5: a misuse of his office for political purposes. And on
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Speaker 5: one other observation as well. Look, it's quite normal for
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Speaker 5: the AAC to be there at those ceremonies, but the
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Speaker 5: minister using it as a platform instead of letting the
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Speaker 5: local mayors run it. That's really suspicious.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's on his way to Brisbane and then
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Speaker 2: to Woomba so you'll be able to see it up close.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Jim Charmers. He's a Queenslander. You've known
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Speaker 2: him a long time. He obviously worked for Kevin Rudd
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Speaker 2: and then he is now the nation's Treasurer. It looks
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Speaker 2: like some of the incumbent Labor MPs, those in marginal seats,
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Speaker 2: they're getting a bit nervous about how the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: is going out on the fake campaign trail, and so
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Speaker 2: they're asking Treasurer Jim to turn up. He's been called
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Speaker 2: to campaign into marginal seats he was in yesterday, I
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Speaker 2: think in the Hunter Valley. Do you think the Treasurer
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Speaker 2: might be able to have more success convincing locals to
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Speaker 2: vote Labor than perhaps PM Alberzi, who's having a rough trot.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm certainly not a fan.
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Speaker 5: It wouldn't convince me, mate, because I think Treasurer is
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Speaker 5: the role gold bs artists of the Federal Parliament with
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Speaker 5: that cheesy smile and frankly, he's skated through the last
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Speaker 5: three years without really hard questioning. If I turned up,
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Speaker 5: like Peter Kredlin used to to Daniel Andrew's press conferences,
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Speaker 5: if I turned up as a journalist, I would certainly
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Speaker 5: expose him to some questions he wouldn't be able to
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Speaker 5: answer because he is one inch deep and five miles wide,
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Speaker 5: Jim Charmers. But I will say this that he's obviously
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Speaker 5: got a higher level of personal popularity and appeal than
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Speaker 5: the Prime Minister, who now they net favorability rating of
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Speaker 5: minus twenty one.
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Speaker 4: That is toxic territory, that is deeply unpopular.
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Speaker 5: People have worked out, I'm afraid the PM and they
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Speaker 5: just don't believe him.
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Speaker 4: Or trust him, or even want to listen to him anymore.
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Speaker 5: So I suppose they've got to try that. But I
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Speaker 5: find it extraordinary that Charmers has just been to the
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Speaker 5: United States speaking to the American sort of Treasury Secretary, etc.
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Speaker 5: And I mean, you know, if i'd been a fly
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Speaker 5: on the wall, sitting there on the corner couch, I've
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Speaker 5: been going, do you know, I'd be saying to the Americans,
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Speaker 5: you know these guys, you know this blake, He's absolutely
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Speaker 5: totally against everything you stand for. He doesn't understand what
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Speaker 5: makes business tick. He's brought in or been involved in,
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Speaker 5: a cabinet that's brought in terrible ir laws, cranked up
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Speaker 5: the price of electricity, increase the red tape and green
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Speaker 5: tape on Australian businesses.
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Speaker 4: Here's your absolute class enemy.
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Speaker 5: And everything you're going to do in the United States
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Speaker 5: is going to sharp his flawed policies over the next
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Speaker 5: few years. Australia will go backwards. Meanwhile, the United States
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Speaker 5: is going to go forward in leaps and bounds, with
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Speaker 5: lower taxes and less regulation and abandoning this net Zerrei rubbish.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point, Jamke. And you know he's
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Speaker 2: everything Donald Trump hates. Just quickly with before you go.
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Speaker 2: I can't let you go about talking twenty thirty two
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Speaker 2: Olympics and Cold Coast says he, we'd like some of
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Speaker 2: the swimming. Brisbane says, hey, you're not getting any of
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Speaker 2: the Olympic Games. What's going on here? Is this a
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Speaker 2: genuine fight between the two locations to have the swimming.
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Speaker 5: I'd say so, but look, I'm just sick of the
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Speaker 5: me me me in this country these days. Steve Look,
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Speaker 5: we've got really significant pressures on the federal budget.
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Speaker 4: The NDS is out of.
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Speaker 5: Control, Chinese warships cruising down the Australian coast moons that
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Speaker 5: we do have to increase defense spending significantly. And meantime
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Speaker 5: we've got people squabbling over who's getting money for the Olympics,
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Speaker 5: while I say, if the Gold Coast can utilize the
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Speaker 5: great facilities built for the Calm Games and save a
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Speaker 5: bucket load of money, good luck to them. And frankly,
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Speaker 5: we should be looking at the Games through a prism,
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Speaker 5: which is how do we save as much money as
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Speaker 5: possible and put on on respectable games. And I say
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Speaker 5: not to crazy expenditure on new stadiums and new infrastructure.
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Speaker 4: Look, the world has changed in the last four or
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Speaker 4: five months.
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Speaker 5: We really have to get real that the great days
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Speaker 5: of the nineties and the two thousands are behind us.
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Speaker 5: We have to actually get real about balancing budgets and
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Speaker 5: spending money on the right priorities and more money on stadiums.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry to the sporting codes. You need to sort
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Speaker 5: of pull it in a bit as well. Everyone's going
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Speaker 5: to have to do their bit because you know tough
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Speaker 5: times are coming actually.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good point. A good point, Campbell, thank you very
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Speaker 2: much for that. Interestingly, I note today that the Organizing
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Speaker 2: Committee has stuck Greg Norman on the committee. I think
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Speaker 2: Greg knows more about spending money than saving it. Cape
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Speaker 2: will be back with us next week. Let's look at
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Speaker 2: this prospect of a hung parliament. We know that's really
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Speaker 2: what we're staring down the back, and it could be
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Speaker 2: a Labor Green minority government and along with the Teals
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Speaker 2: they could become the kingmakers. I mean that would be
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Speaker 2: a disaster. The Greens have started already on a wish
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Speaker 2: list they want to see scrapped, and they've got Woodside's
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Speaker 2: Northwest Shelf extension in wa. That's the first on the
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Speaker 2: chopping block now. Writing in the Australian, Woodside c Meg o'
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Speaker 2: neil and she was very tough this week. Lamented the
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Speaker 2: prospect of a hung parliament. She said it would progress
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Speaker 2: extreme ideology and that the Greens and Teals do not
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Speaker 2: have a pragmatic, educated attitude to policy. The reality is
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Speaker 2: Labour needs to get on with approving this extension.
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Speaker 1: Anyways, here's what she had to say.
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Speaker 6: It's taken six years already now, it took the state
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Speaker 6: government six years to go through all the appeals process.
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Speaker 6: But it really is hard to understand why the Commonwealth
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Speaker 6: Department of Environment needs more time since they've had the
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Speaker 6: same information for that whole six years.
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Speaker 2: Who'd want to be trying to run a mind company
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Speaker 2: in this country. Environment editor with The Australian, Graham Lloyd
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Speaker 2: joins us Graham welcome. Can you explain that project in
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Speaker 2: the Northwest Shelf? How important, how big it is.
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Speaker 4: Good and extend well?
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Speaker 7: Certainly it is a major, major resource project for Australia.
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Speaker 7: The Northwest Shelf was the first of the big export
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Speaker 7: LNG projects to get underway. Its processing facilities there will
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Speaker 7: be extended to take gas from other fields that are
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Speaker 7: discovered offshore WA and pumped down to it.
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Speaker 4: It has been a.
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Speaker 7: Controversial process for the extension, both for environmental reasons and
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Speaker 7: also for heritage concerns over petroglyphs and other things on shore.
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Speaker 7: But what we're seeing from the federal government really is
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Speaker 7: an inability to.
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Speaker 1: Make a tough decision.
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Speaker 7: Tanya Plevu SEC has a decision to make regards to heritage,
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Speaker 7: but the real agenda of environment groups is to stop
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Speaker 7: projects that are going to admit CO two and greenhouse
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Speaker 7: gas emissions. Tania Plubisect should be able to make a
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Speaker 7: decision very swiftly on this in the national interest, but
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Speaker 7: she's dragging her feet.
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Speaker 2: Well, you suspect to suspect Graham giving this two elections
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Speaker 2: coming up in Wa state election next week and then
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Speaker 2: the federal election, that maybe she's been told by Anthony
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Speaker 2: Albanezi or Cabinet or whoever sit on your hands, don't
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Speaker 2: make a decision against this project before an election because
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Speaker 2: we don't want to lose seats in Wa.
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Speaker 7: We're seeing the same thing playing out in Tasmania over
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Speaker 7: salmon farming. Certainly the federal government doesn't want to rock
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Speaker 7: the boat here, but this is the wrong approach. I
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Speaker 7: think they really need to put a stake in the
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Speaker 7: ground and say what they what they do support, not
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Speaker 7: be too scared to make a decision because of the
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Speaker 7: advantage that their opponents may take.
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Speaker 2: You'd be very well aware of the policies of the
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Speaker 2: Greens and the Teals.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got wat L K.
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Speaker 2: Cheney, she's all over the place on this woodside project.
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Speaker 2: How disruptive to Australia's environment and its energy production. Would
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Speaker 2: a minority labor government dependent on tills and Greensbury.
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Speaker 7: Well, I think you saw the comments from the woodside
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Speaker 7: chief this week. The industry is very very concerned about
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Speaker 7: what the prospect of a hung parliament would be. The
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Speaker 7: Greens have made absolutely no secret of the fact that
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Speaker 7: their demand is for an end to new fossil fuel projects,
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Speaker 7: and we're seeing that the tells straying into the same
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Speaker 7: area on this. If there is a hung parliament with
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Speaker 7: those two groups, it's a deadly recipe for the fossil
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Speaker 7: fuel industry, starting with gas and extending the coal and
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Speaker 7: it will be very, very difficult for a labor minority
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Speaker 7: government to manage.
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Speaker 8: Ye.
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Speaker 2: I look, Victoria's already facing major shortages of gas. I
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Speaker 2: mean simply as we head toward winter, there could be situations.
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Speaker 1: And this comes from you know, places.
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Speaker 2: Like AEMO that our energy could be under threat because
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Speaker 2: we don't have enough gas.
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Speaker 7: That's right, And this is a situation that has unfolded
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Speaker 7: over a long period of time where the state government
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Speaker 7: has been reluctant to take on minority pressure groups. They
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Speaker 7: always thought that the gas would come from somewhere else.
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Speaker 7: But those chickens are coming home to roost now. They're
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Speaker 7: looking frantically for ways to repair the situation, and extraordinary
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Speaker 7: that might include importing the gas from overseas. This is
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Speaker 7: a state government issue where they are causing lots of
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Speaker 7: problems for manufacturing and that would be a tragedy to
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Speaker 7: see that played out at a national, national level.
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Speaker 2: Just before you go talking about production and what we
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Speaker 2: make in Australia, Anthony Albaneze's running around the country saying
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Speaker 2: he supports made in Australia. There's a crowd in Victoria
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Speaker 2: and Dandenong Oceania glass it's going to shut down. Everyone
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Speaker 2: working there is going to lose their jobs. They are
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Speaker 2: in administration at the moment. Graham I was absolutely staggered
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Speaker 2: to find out that Oceania is the only place left
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Speaker 2: in Australia that actually makes glass.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, extraordinary, isn't that. We're always talking about losing these
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Speaker 7: heavy industries to overseas, two factors that play high energy
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Speaker 7: costs and competition from Asia. This has been the story
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Speaker 7: of Australian manufacturing and we're making every decision to make
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Speaker 7: things tougher. It's glass today, It's possibly going to be
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Speaker 7: other industry, including steel and aluminium. Sometime in the future.
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Speaker 2: Crazy stuff, Graham, all is a pleasure to catch up
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Speaker 2: with you, Thanks very much. All right, Coming up after
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Speaker 2: the break, the Victorian suburb that is being lost to
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Speaker 2: drug dealers and drug users. I've talked about it before.
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Speaker 1: I've been there myself to have a look.
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Speaker 2: It is absolutely horrendous and there are fears that businesses
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Speaker 2: there are going to be forced to pack up and
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Speaker 2: move out. Plus, how concerned should we be that President
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Speaker 2: Trump today he didn't seem to know what Orcus actually was.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Price with you and the world. According
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Speaker 2: to Rowndine, coming up at the top of the hour,
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Speaker 2: I've talked a lot about this injecting facility in Richmond.
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Speaker 2: It's a North Richard suburb and I've been sounding the
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Speaker 2: alarm on this forever. Last time I went out there
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Speaker 2: a sort of bloke sitting in the gut injecting heroin
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Speaker 2: into his foot.
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Speaker 1: I mean a.
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Speaker 2: Government department, now we learn this week has decided it
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Speaker 2: wants to move out because of the violence and the
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Speaker 2: general havoc that is around the injecting room. It's right
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Speaker 2: next to a school. I mean, it was the most
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Speaker 2: ridiculous place to ever put a drug injecting facility. Now,
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Speaker 2: it was designed to give the already prevalent drug users
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Speaker 2: a place to go, but it's still leaking out onto
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Speaker 2: the streets. You've had people brawling, defecating in the street.
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Speaker 2: The facility is in the focus this week because there
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Speaker 2: are reports the Victorian Gaming Casino Control Commission, who have
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Speaker 2: an office there with a couple hundred people working out
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Speaker 2: of it, are going to vacate their North Richmond office
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Speaker 2: when the lease runs out because the staff are scared.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now to discuss this and more about Victorian politics.
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Speaker 2: Shadow Planning and Housing Minister Richard Reid, and good to
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Speaker 2: see you again. Last time I was there someone injecting
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Speaker 2: in the street. I think there've been dead bodies that
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Speaker 2: was put next to a school. It's the most ridiculous
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Speaker 2: place to have that forcility. Now you've got a government
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Speaker 2: department too scared to work there.
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Speaker 9: It just goes from bad to worse here in Victoria,
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Speaker 9: doesn't it stay. I mean, it's it's hard to imagine
21:09
Speaker 9: everyone who criticized the fact that you're going to put
21:12
Speaker 9: an injectioning set next to a school where demonies.
21:15
Speaker 1: As unsympathetic and not caring, and.
21:17
Speaker 9: You know, the Liberal Party, we put up the argument
21:20
Speaker 9: continually that you know, if you have to have it,
21:22
Speaker 9: put it somewhere sensible, somewhere that would make sense.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Sydney ones in I used to live in
21:27
Speaker 2: King's Cross, Sydney Onan's in King's Cross. Yeah, they have
21:29
Speaker 2: never had any trouble. Well, it's an area which is
21:31
Speaker 2: full of nightclubs and drug users.
21:33
Speaker 9: But it's the grand irony that the Liquor and Gambling Commission,
21:37
Speaker 9: two hundred state government employees, the very sort.
21:40
Speaker 1: Of can't make industry. You can't make this stuff up.
21:42
Speaker 9: I mean they get protected, but the families, the school children,
21:46
Speaker 9: the teachers, the school others in the community who have
21:49
Speaker 9: to live there, their concerns are considered hyperventilating.
21:53
Speaker 2: You know, protests, collapse, real estate prices, and the street itself.
21:57
Speaker 2: And you'd know this, you know, go back fifteen years.
22:02
Speaker 1: That's Victoria Street.
22:03
Speaker 2: Richmond was a high of Vietnamese food in this town
22:07
Speaker 2: and people used to love it.
22:09
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go there if you paid me.
22:10
Speaker 9: And now you've got a building of most likely half
22:14
Speaker 9: of them stay at home workers. Now it's too safe
22:17
Speaker 9: for them to come in to go to work. So
22:19
Speaker 9: this is what it's like in Victoria now, and it
22:22
Speaker 9: just rolls on and of course the.
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Speaker 1: Week remind me, what did you do with it? You
22:26
Speaker 1: would shut it, move it.
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Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 9: Our proposal has been that we were prepared to have
22:30
Speaker 9: the trial in somewhere sensible and it has to be
22:32
Speaker 9: done with consultation with the community. And it's certainly not
22:35
Speaker 9: something that's appropriate next to a house, I mean next
22:38
Speaker 9: to a school. Quite frankly, in my own portfolio with
22:43
Speaker 9: special needs housing at times, I've got a situation I'm
22:46
Speaker 9: dealing with my own electorate where some special needs housings
22:49
Speaker 9: right next to a school too. I don't know why
22:51
Speaker 9: they always seem to be next to schools, but it's
22:54
Speaker 9: at the point where the school has had to council
22:57
Speaker 9: school events because it's unsafe for the families to attend. Now,
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Speaker 9: this is the type of thinking that's just got to
23:03
Speaker 9: get fixed in Victoria. Everyone wants a safe and fair
23:06
Speaker 9: Victoria and a place that looks after vulnerable people. But
23:09
Speaker 9: you can't put that cost on particularly school children in
23:12
Speaker 9: primary schools. It doesn't make sense that.
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Speaker 2: On your portfolio. Speaking of it just Senta Allen. This
23:17
Speaker 2: week she's come out with a new housing plan. Have
23:20
Speaker 2: a listened to this and today.
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Speaker 11: We're releasing a new townhouse code. I want Victoria to
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Speaker 11: beat the townhouse capital of Australia. It's why today's townhouse
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Speaker 11: code adds to that word in providing more options for
23:35
Speaker 11: more Victorians to find the home that they want.
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Speaker 2: She did that with a smile on their face and
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Speaker 2: said that she wants to make Victoria the townhouse capital
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Speaker 2: of the world.
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Speaker 1: What do you take what is she talking about?
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Speaker 9: Well, diabolically, what she's talking about ultimately is not only
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Speaker 9: a housing plan, but a tax plan, because what Victorians
23:57
Speaker 9: are yet to find out is this will require rezoning,
24:00
Speaker 9: This will lead to windfall gains tax, this will lead
24:03
Speaker 9: to more property taxes, and in doing all of that,
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Speaker 9: this government plans to fundamentally change the character of Melbourne.
24:11
Speaker 9: Everyone understands the need for more density and sensible medium
24:14
Speaker 9: density in streets and apartments, but this plan talks about
24:18
Speaker 9: we're going to make it easier to build six story
24:21
Speaker 9: apartment towers in otherwise quite suburban, leafy streets. It's talking
24:25
Speaker 9: about twenty story apartment towers right throughout our suburbs. And
24:29
Speaker 9: if you look at the map now sixty five centers
24:31
Speaker 9: across Melbourne.
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Speaker 1: It's everywhere.
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Speaker 9: And what this plan hasn't done, Steve, It hasn't mentioned Ballarat, Geelong, Bendigo,
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Speaker 9: anywhere in regional Victoria, all of whom have a housing crisis.
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Speaker 9: There's nothing in any of those communities for these announcements
24:46
Speaker 9: this week. And to say that people only want to
24:48
Speaker 9: live in townhouses and small apartments in twenty story towers
24:53
Speaker 9: is to really misunderstand why people live where they live
24:57
Speaker 9: and where they want to live. And people want to
25:00
Speaker 9: have their place that they can call there, and they
25:02
Speaker 9: want it affordable. The fact is every developer, every builder
25:06
Speaker 9: in the state is saying most of these houses the
25:08
Speaker 9: government's talked about today, these apartments, you won't bring to
25:11
Speaker 9: market for under a million dollars. Well, if you think
25:13
Speaker 9: about that, the average Victorian is not in a position
25:16
Speaker 9: to be spending one to two million dollars on a
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Speaker 9: two bedroom apartment.
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Speaker 2: And you know how language is so important. You notice
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Speaker 2: they don't talk about houses anymore, they talk about homes.
25:25
Speaker 2: That really annoys me because when Australians talk about a house,
25:29
Speaker 2: they're talking about a suburban block with a backyard. Yes,
25:34
Speaker 2: and that's not what we're talking about here.
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Speaker 1: No.
25:36
Speaker 9: In fact, we heard this week that in the suburban
25:38
Speaker 9: railroop plans there's no car parking. I mean the government
25:42
Speaker 9: now is bringing this in. They think that the Victorians
25:45
Speaker 9: of the future won't want a car, won't want to
25:47
Speaker 9: get around, They're going to be perfectly happy being on
25:50
Speaker 9: public transport, living in a tower in the city. You know,
25:54
Speaker 9: there is more to life than that. That is a
25:55
Speaker 9: solution for some people. The Opposition absolutely agrees this in part.
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Speaker 9: Some of this is needed. But the city now is
26:02
Speaker 9: full of potential sites for high rise towers, medium density apartments.
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Speaker 9: People aren't building them, Steve, and they're not building them
26:09
Speaker 9: because they're too expensive. And they're too expensive because this
26:13
Speaker 9: Victorian government has overpaid and supercharged the construction.
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Speaker 1: I just wonder what's making it a social fabric of
26:19
Speaker 1: those areas as well well.
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Speaker 9: There's no talk in any of the plans. It was
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Speaker 9: one of the biggest press releases ever released by the government.
26:25
Speaker 9: Four pages and nowhere did it say if you're going
26:27
Speaker 9: to put the city of Adelaide in sixty five existing
26:30
Speaker 9: suburbs in Melbourne. So it's eight hundred thousand people over
26:33
Speaker 9: the next ten years, who's paying for the extra schools,
26:37
Speaker 9: the extra childcare. What are we doing with already congested
26:40
Speaker 9: suburban streets. Who's paying for the car parking facilities? Where
26:44
Speaker 9: are the extra sporting and recreational facilities. None of that's
26:47
Speaker 9: been planned for in this Steve. This is saying, Melbourne,
26:50
Speaker 9: we don't agree with the way you're living now. We
26:52
Speaker 9: want to change it forever. Good Bye leafy suburbs, goodbye
26:55
Speaker 9: heritage streets. This is the future under Labour.
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Speaker 2: It's not sort of Melbourne I want to live in.
27:00
Speaker 2: Just briefly before we go, and no, it's not your portfolio.
27:02
Speaker 2: A deal's been done to give Victoria police a pay rise,
27:05
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty million dollar deal. You wonder why
27:09
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, when you and I were sitting here,
27:12
Speaker 2: Shane Patten had had to had his contract not renewed
27:15
Speaker 2: and he walked their way. Why couldn't they get this
27:18
Speaker 2: deal done when he was there? How has it suddenly
27:20
Speaker 2: changed two.
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Speaker 9: Weeks Well, who knows why it's changed, but I do
27:23
Speaker 9: note we're still missing over a thousand police in Victoria's ranks.
27:28
Speaker 9: We've still got forty three police stations closed. There is
27:31
Speaker 9: a lot of work this government has to do and
27:33
Speaker 9: the fact that they've made Victorian's wait while crime continues
27:36
Speaker 9: to go out of control with the catch and release policies,
27:39
Speaker 9: with the bail laws. There is so much that needs
27:41
Speaker 9: to be done to keep Victorian safe. And yet you
27:44
Speaker 9: know the government's now trumpeting something that quite frankly, a
27:47
Speaker 9: pay deal.
27:47
Speaker 1: Should have been done two years ago.
27:48
Speaker 9: Should have been done two years ago.
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Speaker 2: Richard, thanks for coming and appreciate it very much.
27:51
Speaker 1: Thanks Richard.
27:52
Speaker 2: Ridden Then now to the growing concern around our ORCUE alliance.
27:56
Speaker 1: We talked about this at the beginning of the program.
27:58
Speaker 2: It seems the President President and Trump seemingly unaware of
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Speaker 2: what UCUST was or is.
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Speaker 3: Have a look be discussing UCUS with the Prime Minister
28:08
Speaker 3: Sun But what does that mean Aucus the Australia US
28:12
Speaker 3: defense line so well, did.
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Speaker 4: We discussing there?
28:17
Speaker 2: Both sides of politics sort of seemed to say today, oh, well,
28:20
Speaker 2: we'll give him a bit of slack there.
28:22
Speaker 1: Have a look at that.
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Speaker 7: There's a lot of acronyms in this business, and you
28:28
Speaker 7: know we all get thrown at them from time to time.
28:33
Speaker 4: Not everyone gets the acronyms and all the rest of it.
28:36
Speaker 5: But there's no doubt in my mind that the President
28:39
Speaker 5: strongly supports the alliance between our three countries.
28:43
Speaker 2: Joining me now, Senior analyst at the Australia Strategic Policy Institute,
28:47
Speaker 2: Malcolm Davis, Malcolm, welcome, good to see you again. Should
28:50
Speaker 2: we be concerned that Donald Trump didn't know off the
28:53
Speaker 2: top of his head what UCUS.
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Speaker 8: Was, look, I think the optics are bad. He should
28:58
Speaker 8: have known. But I think we should be too concerned
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Speaker 8: in the sense that the key power leaders in terms
29:07
Speaker 8: of defense and national security in the Trump administration, Pete Haxf,
29:12
Speaker 8: Mike Weltz and Mirco Rubio all understand what Orcust is
29:15
Speaker 8: all about. The key US leaders in the Pentagon understand
29:19
Speaker 8: what orchis is about. So I think that this one
29:21
Speaker 8: slip on the part on Trump's part probably can be allowed.
29:25
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's not a good look. If the President
29:27
Speaker 8: doesn't know what a key defense technology sharing agreement is
29:32
Speaker 8: all about.
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Speaker 2: You wonder why Starmer hadn't raised it with him in
29:38
Speaker 2: their talks. Would appear that he hasn't, Otherwise he would
29:41
Speaker 2: have said, well, the British Prime Minister and I spoke
29:44
Speaker 2: about that today and I get it, and we're going
29:46
Speaker 2: to go full steam ahead.
29:48
Speaker 1: With it well.
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Speaker 8: You know, the UK's role in aucust is very important,
29:52
Speaker 8: certainly in Pillar two with technology sharing, and most importantly
29:57
Speaker 8: in Pillar one with the British role in producing ssn
30:01
Speaker 8: ucas that will acquire way out in the future in
30:04
Speaker 8: the twenty forties. But I think that Prime Minister Starma
30:09
Speaker 8: probably had really more important issues to discuss with President
30:12
Speaker 8: Trump in the form of ensuring europe security against a
30:16
Speaker 8: Russian attack, responding to the needs of Ukraine, and trying
30:20
Speaker 8: to convince the Trump administration not to walk away from
30:23
Speaker 8: Ukraine and do a very foolish deal with President Putin.
30:27
Speaker 8: So I think once again Prime Minister Starma probably saw
30:31
Speaker 8: orcas as fairly low on his list of subjects to
30:34
Speaker 8: bring up.
30:36
Speaker 2: We've seen the Albanesi government struggle to give us a
30:40
Speaker 2: proper explanation of what they knew and when they knew
30:43
Speaker 2: about these Chinese naval ships off the coast of Australia
30:47
Speaker 2: doing these drills using live fire. This series that a
30:50
Speaker 2: Virgin Airline pilot tipped the government off. Anthony Albanesi has
30:54
Speaker 2: been all over the.
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Speaker 1: Place with this.
30:56
Speaker 2: How concerned should we be with what they're doing? And
31:01
Speaker 2: you is your assessment that they're just making it very
31:06
Speaker 2: clear to us and to our allies that they're in
31:09
Speaker 2: the region and they treat the region like it's their own.
31:14
Speaker 8: I think the latter point in terms of their determination
31:17
Speaker 8: to project power into our region and to dominate the
31:20
Speaker 8: region as the correct one. The Prime Minister and the
31:24
Speaker 8: government have been making a lot of emphasis on the
31:27
Speaker 8: fact that what the Chinese naval flotilla was doing was
31:30
Speaker 8: legal in the sense that they were in international waters.
31:32
Speaker 8: But the Chinese did not give any indication ahead of
31:37
Speaker 8: time that they were going to do these live fire drills,
31:39
Speaker 8: as they should have done, and they certainly should not
31:42
Speaker 8: have done these live fire drills underneath a busy commercial
31:45
Speaker 8: air corridor. So I think you can actually challenge China
31:49
Speaker 8: in regards to their actions on this, but I think
31:52
Speaker 8: we shouldn't get to hung up on the legality of
31:54
Speaker 8: their actions. I think the more important issue here is
31:58
Speaker 8: the message, the strategic signaling that the Chinese are sending
32:02
Speaker 8: by deploying these warships. Essentially, what they're saying is we
32:06
Speaker 8: can deploy powerful naval forces into Australia's air and maritime
32:12
Speaker 8: approaches whenever we want to project our power and project
32:15
Speaker 8: our influence, and I think that the message that sends
32:18
Speaker 8: to the Australian government and whomever is in power after
32:22
Speaker 8: the election is that we need to take defense far
32:25
Speaker 8: more seriously than we've done so far. We need to
32:28
Speaker 8: have another look at defense spending and our acquisition strategy
32:32
Speaker 8: in terms of capabilities and accelerate everything and increase defense spending.
32:38
Speaker 8: And we need to do it now rather than waiting
32:40
Speaker 8: until the mid twenty thirties as is currently the plan.
32:43
Speaker 8: So this is a shot across the bowels. We need
32:46
Speaker 8: to take it seriously. I mean, we should not get
32:48
Speaker 8: hung up on debating whether it's legal or not.
32:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an excellent point. I mean average
32:55
Speaker 2: Australians looking at this, they don't go into the minutia
32:58
Speaker 2: of it. What they do is they so, you know,
33:00
Speaker 2: you're standing round down at the pub, you go, well,
33:02
Speaker 2: what's going on with Chinese ships off Shurean. Are we
33:05
Speaker 2: actually prepared in any way to repel a Chinese aggression
33:10
Speaker 2: against Australia. I mean to average people, it seems like
33:14
Speaker 2: we're not.
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Speaker 8: Look, you know, the government has a bi annual defense
33:20
Speaker 8: policy process with the next National Defense Strategy and Integrated
33:24
Speaker 8: Investment Program documents coming out in twenty twenty six. I
33:28
Speaker 8: think if those documents merely restate what was in the
33:32
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four NDS and IP, then we'll have a
33:36
Speaker 8: missed opportunity to really respond to the rapidly growing challenges
33:42
Speaker 8: and deteriorating strategic environment that we're facing. So I do
33:45
Speaker 8: think that this Chinese deployment is a wake up call
33:49
Speaker 8: for us. Whichever party is in government after the May
33:52
Speaker 8: elections does need to actually take a long, hard look
33:56
Speaker 8: at defense planning. They do need to bump up defense
33:59
Speaker 8: spending well above what is currently planned for. And I
34:02
Speaker 8: think the plan the figure that so the current government
34:05
Speaker 8: is thinking in terms of is getting to about two
34:08
Speaker 8: point thirty two point four percent by the mid twenty thirties.
34:11
Speaker 8: That's not nearly enough. I think we need to be
34:13
Speaker 8: looking at a floor of three point five percent GDP
34:17
Speaker 8: as soon as possible. But we also need to spend
34:19
Speaker 8: that money wisely, and so therefore we need to invest
34:22
Speaker 8: in capabilities that we can get rapidly, that we can
34:25
Speaker 8: produce in large numbers, in other words, generate mass, and
34:28
Speaker 8: we need to do that in terms of low cost.
34:31
Speaker 8: And I think this is where the next defense planning strategy,
34:34
Speaker 8: the next National Defense strategy and integrated investment program needs
34:38
Speaker 8: to focus on.
34:40
Speaker 1: Great stuff.
34:41
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Malcolm, appreciate it. Coming up after
34:44
Speaker 2: the break, we have a larger side. We do this
34:46
Speaker 2: every couple of weeks on a Friday. Our favorite cartoonist,
34:49
Speaker 2: the best cartoonist in the country, Mark n id will
34:51
Speaker 2: be with us plus a bit later on could the
34:54
Speaker 2: NRL really get President Trump to the Magic Round in
34:58
Speaker 2: Las Vegas?
35:02
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Price with you.
35:03
Speaker 2: Our panel coming up shortly, but let's check in with
35:06
Speaker 2: our Herald Sun cartoonist Mark Knight. They's had so much
35:10
Speaker 2: fodder this week it's not funny.
35:12
Speaker 1: Mark.
35:13
Speaker 2: Great to see you again. I've written a column about
35:15
Speaker 2: Nick Grease in the paper for tomorrow. You drew a
35:19
Speaker 2: cartoon about our.
35:20
Speaker 1: Lord Mayor of Melbourne during the week.
35:22
Speaker 3: Well, I thank you for that because I haven't had
35:24
Speaker 3: a chance to draw the Lord may yet first time.
35:28
Speaker 3: And let me say I enjoyed it. And you pointed
35:32
Speaker 3: out that Melbourne has a bit of a graffiti problem,
35:34
Speaker 3: and of course the biggest ticket item in Melbourne's is
35:38
Speaker 3: Pam the Bird, and I think Pam the Bird is
35:41
Speaker 3: actually more prolific than Nick Reees and the media. So
35:44
Speaker 3: Pam the Bird for Lord Mayor, I reckon.
35:48
Speaker 2: Well, Pam the Bird actually does ail of a lot
35:50
Speaker 2: more work than what the current Legor of Melbourne, Nick
35:54
Speaker 2: Grease does. The Chinese that's given you a bit of
35:57
Speaker 2: fun during the week. They've got these ships. We'll get
36:00
Speaker 2: to Malcolm Davis about it. Three of them off the
36:02
Speaker 2: coast and you know, you would have thought it would
36:05
Speaker 2: have been the Admiral in charge of the Navy would
36:08
Speaker 2: have been the first person to sidle up alongside and
36:12
Speaker 2: say what the hell are you doing?
36:13
Speaker 1: Turns out it was a Virgin pilot.
36:15
Speaker 3: Well, isn't it reassuring to know that Virgin Airlines are
36:20
Speaker 3: patrolling our borders and keeping us safe from I am
36:28
Speaker 3: actually a Virgin club member, so I feel I'm part
36:32
Speaker 3: of keeping Australia safe. But yeah, I think in the
36:36
Speaker 3: cartoon my pig is saying Virgin on ridiculous this story.
36:42
Speaker 1: That was a very nice line, very cute. Senator Allen.
36:45
Speaker 2: The Premier of Victoria, she's decided that she wants to
36:49
Speaker 2: make Melbourne and Victoria the townhouse capital of the world,
36:54
Speaker 2: or Australia at least she's also sidling up to the
36:58
Speaker 2: unions saying.
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Speaker 1: Well, what are the tattoos on her arms? Saying what
37:04
Speaker 1: have you drawn there?
37:05
Speaker 3: Well, I think if you're going to be one of
37:07
Speaker 3: these tough builders workers, you've got to have the arms
37:10
Speaker 3: and you've got to have the sleeves to go with it.
37:12
Speaker 3: So Old George has center now as a sort of
37:15
Speaker 3: tough sort of cfmy you like Bonny Decker with this
37:21
Speaker 3: fantastic sleeve. She's got the Townhouse capital on there. There's
37:24
Speaker 3: a nice tat that says the finger up to vcat
37:28
Speaker 3: because as we know now in Victoria, planning permits for pussies,
37:32
Speaker 3: and she's developed or die. All those sorts of great
37:36
Speaker 3: old CFM. You tats are now on the premiere.
37:41
Speaker 2: I Love you sticking her head on John Secker's body
37:44
Speaker 2: works brilliantly. Donald Trump Vladimir Putin, they're the best of mates.
37:50
Speaker 2: Depicture of those two getting on.
37:53
Speaker 1: Mine chess.
37:55
Speaker 4: Well, there's nice to.
37:56
Speaker 1: See they're calling it four dach.
38:00
Speaker 3: Yes, the way Donald Trump operates, it's way beyond the
38:04
Speaker 3: sort of mere mortal comprehension. And so there he is
38:08
Speaker 3: playing four D chess with Vladimir Putin and of course,
38:13
Speaker 3: you know it all looks very tough on the surface,
38:15
Speaker 3: but below the table we know what's going on. They're
38:17
Speaker 3: having a good old footsie contest because these guys just
38:21
Speaker 3: love each other, and.
38:25
Speaker 2: I love your cartoon on that. I think they give
38:27
Speaker 2: you plenty to draw. Thank you, mate, you're in fine
38:30
Speaker 2: form this week. We'll talk to you in a couple
38:32
Speaker 2: of weeks now before the break. Clarification around some comments
38:35
Speaker 2: I made on Shari Markson's program on Monday Night this
38:39
Speaker 2: week now, in a chat about claims Peter Dutton had
38:42
Speaker 2: been voted Australia's worst ever health minister. I'm mistakenly called
38:46
Speaker 2: the magazine the poll Doctors about this doctor's magazine. It
38:51
Speaker 2: is in fact called Australian Doctor. I'm happy to clarify
38:55
Speaker 2: that approximately eleven hundred people apparently took part in this poll,
38:59
Speaker 2: which was run in twenty fifteen, not in twenty thirteen,
39:03
Speaker 2: as I said. The readership of the magazine at the
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Speaker 2: time of the poll was around twenty thousand. Finally, a
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Speaker 2: doctor I quoted did not specifically describe Peter Dutton as
39:14
Speaker 2: the worst ever health minister. Rather, that was the finding
39:18
Speaker 2: of the actual pole coming up after the break, the
39:21
Speaker 2: panel will weigh in on Tony Burke's citizenship blitz around
39:25
Speaker 2: the country, plus the Sheikwassim Shaikhawi. He's been clear to
39:31
Speaker 2: return to work despite concerns about the school's allah Appa protest.
39:41
Speaker 2: Steve Price with you roundin coming up at the top
39:43
Speaker 2: of the hour. Let's bring in our favorite panel, the
39:46
Speaker 2: Friday Panel, Small Business Women Australia CEO Amanda Rose and
39:50
Speaker 2: Skyne New's contributed Joe, hild A Round. Great to see
39:52
Speaker 2: you both at the end of another week. Joe, I
39:56
Speaker 2: just want to start with you. We saw today President
40:00
Speaker 2: Trump and Keir Starmer. There was a media conference in
40:04
Speaker 2: the Oval Office and the President didn't seem to have
40:08
Speaker 2: a real handle on what Orcus was, but something else
40:12
Speaker 2: I picked up because after that he turned to Keir
40:15
Speaker 2: Starmer and said, wow, we have a great relationship with Australia,
40:19
Speaker 2: just like you've had great relationships Prime Minister with Australia
40:24
Speaker 2: as well. Apologies for my American excit you reckon Donald Trump?
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Speaker 1: Do you reckon?
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's got any clue that Britain colonized Australia?
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Speaker 10: Quite possibly?
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Speaker 12: I mean, the thing with Donald Trumps, it's always just
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Speaker 12: a matter of who he spoke to last, who got
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Speaker 12: in his ear last, and suddenly he just loves them.
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Speaker 12: And I don't think he is this ogreish, fiendish kind
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Speaker 12: of pantomime villain that people paint him out to be.
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Speaker 12: In fact, it's been shown time and time again even
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Speaker 12: when his critics actually go and meet him and talk
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Speaker 12: to him and give him, you give him the time
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Speaker 12: of day. And you know, I suck up to him
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Speaker 12: a bit, and I to him he's the leader of
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Speaker 12: the free world. He then just is more than prepared
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Speaker 12: to just.
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Speaker 10: Gush, you know, lavish praise on people his man.
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Speaker 12: And you know he called the Prime Minister Anthony Aberinezi
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Speaker 12: a very fine man after their phone call about the
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Speaker 12: US steel tariffs and other things. And he's done the
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Speaker 12: exact same thing with Keir Starmer. You know, you shake
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Speaker 12: Donald Trump's hands, suddenly your best friends.
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Speaker 2: It's great, Amanda, what I loved about that we saw
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Speaker 2: in the vision there Starmer handing Donald Trump an envelope.
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Speaker 2: In the envelope was a letter from King Charles inviting
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Speaker 2: him to have a state visit. Trump's not just you know,
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Speaker 2: he doesn't accept that on face value. He says I
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Speaker 2: just got to check on the back that the King's
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Speaker 2: actually signed this to make sure it's real.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, I.
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Speaker 13: Actually think I think Trump is a master businessman, and
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Speaker 13: you don't know what he's thinking, You don't know what
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Speaker 13: he's going to do next, and I think that's how
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Speaker 13: he keeps people on the toes. But I also think
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Speaker 13: he's a master latterer, so he flatters a lot of people,
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Speaker 13: which helps with them not knowing what his next movie is.
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Speaker 13: I always say flattery comes before the ask or the attack.
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Speaker 13: So if someone's flattering you, they're about to ask something
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Speaker 13: of you because you feel all hyped up and you
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Speaker 13: think he loves me, or behind your back, they're about
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Speaker 13: to do something, so you're about to find out.
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Speaker 2: Joe, I reckon that Amanda has been reading too many
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Speaker 2: of those how to be a Successful business Person books.
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Speaker 12: Manages to try taking my previous relationships, taking not much.
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Speaker 1: Out of those. Now.
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Speaker 2: One of your labor mates, Tony Burke, we talked about
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Speaker 2: this last week. He was plowing six hundred odd people
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Speaker 2: through Homebush Stadium, turning them into Australians potentially labor voters,
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Speaker 2: he hopes. I think there was twelve thousand people in
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Speaker 2: total over three days. And now he's in Perth doing
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Speaker 2: the same thing. Then he's in Adelaide, then he's going
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Speaker 2: to Brisbane and he's going to Woomba. Being too cynical.
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is this just industrial scale branch stacking.
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Speaker 10: Well it's not just branch stacking. It's it's electorate stacking.
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Speaker 12: It's Australia stacking, it's country stacking, nation stacking.
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Speaker 10: This is fantastic. So finally Labor is thinking big.
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Speaker 12: You know, I was accused of not having enough vision before,
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Speaker 12: you know, being too much for.
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Speaker 10: A small target.
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Speaker 14: And then you know, Lane's got Oh we can do
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Speaker 14: what we did in southwest Sydney to the whole country.
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Speaker 10: It's ingenius, it's inspired. I absolutely love it. Plenty of
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Speaker 10: you know, hand on heart singing of the.
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Speaker 1: National Oh my goodness.
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Speaker 14: And you know I just cut out the middle of
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Speaker 14: who needs to go around, you know, selling your policies
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Speaker 14: where you can just grab the voters.
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Speaker 12: You know, policies, policies no wa wait wait wait wait
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Speaker 12: wait pop a bony.
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Speaker 10: Bus sent them to the policy. There you go. It's
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Speaker 10: a fishing. There are nonders.
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Speaker 13: Let's be clear, there are no policies. There are headlines
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Speaker 13: and propaganda, but no real policies. And he's talking about
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Speaker 13: being a patriot. Here's an idea, how about you don't
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Speaker 13: hate the ninety seven percent of businesses in Australia small
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Speaker 13: businesses that are small businesses in Australia. Because it was
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Speaker 13: really interesting that if anyone pushed back on the activities
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Speaker 13: that he was doing right now of going out and
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Speaker 13: meeting all these new migrants, you know you're not a
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Speaker 13: patriot if you don't support this. You have not a
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Speaker 13: single policy to help small businesses. And we know migrants
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Speaker 13: built this country. Farmers and migrants built Australia, So why
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Speaker 13: did they not support small business? And all of a
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Speaker 13: sudden they're saying to you're not a patriot if you
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Speaker 13: don't like my branch stacking.
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Speaker 1: Joe.
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Speaker 2: I was amazed that the group in the group in
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Speaker 2: Wa today and yesterday they represented sixty five different countries
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Speaker 2: and were aged from two years old to ninety six.
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Speaker 10: Yeah. Look, I actually like that.
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Speaker 12: In fact, I wrote just finished writing my column today
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Speaker 12: in sead of in defensive multiculturalism all this and quite
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Speaker 12: sincerely too.
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Speaker 10: I'm absolutely all in on it, and.
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Speaker 12: I think it's fantastic that Australia can take on because
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Speaker 12: we are so beloved around the world.
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Speaker 10: People want to share in our lifestyle and our values.
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Speaker 12: You do get just staggering numbers of people from a
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Speaker 12: staggering varieties of countries. And for the most part, I
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Speaker 12: know there's always bad stuff that pops up from time
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Speaker 12: to time, but for the most part we get along
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Speaker 12: incredibly well. And you know, if it wasn't for the
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Speaker 12: first wave of Greeks, we'd have no fish and chip shops,
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Speaker 12: no car mechanics, no snowy hydrome.
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Speaker 10: It's just gotten better and better since then.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not putting migrants in a little box, are you.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Amanda if we can. Western Sydney this
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Speaker 2: week controversial school support officer and the Muslim vote founder
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Speaker 2: of Voke by the name of Sheikh Wesm Shaikawi. He's
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Speaker 2: now being cleared by the department to go back to work,
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Speaker 2: so he's got his job back despite defending those two
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Speaker 2: nurses who allegedly threatened to kill Israeli patients. Shakhawi's initial
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Speaker 2: work from home order of that course led to a
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Speaker 2: disturbing teacher led protest. Have a look at this, you're
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Speaker 2: a huge supporter of Western Sydney. That's really disturbing to me.
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Speaker 13: What's disturbing is when any child is involved in a protest,
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Speaker 13: and especially during school hours. So yes, I believe in
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Speaker 13: a right to protest, but my theory is, okay, well,
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Speaker 13: on the weekend you can go with your family do
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Speaker 13: your protest because you know you believe in something and
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Speaker 13: you're pushing something whether people believe it or not. But
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Speaker 13: to encourage children to use school time in the school
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Speaker 13: uniform to chant and don't forget their children. Often children
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Speaker 13: don't understand what exactly it is that they're supporting, and
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Speaker 13: that is also very concerning, whether it's this or whether
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Speaker 13: it's any other protest. As soon as I see children,
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Speaker 13: I see red flags.
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was a state school too, Joe. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's not as if it was an Islamic school or
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Speaker 2: you know, a single you a school that was from
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Speaker 2: one religion. There's supposed to be no religion in state schools.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 12: I really don't like the idea of teachers in the
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Speaker 12: public education system ideologically influencing kids they're not supposed to,
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Speaker 12: and that's not what it's there for. I will say though,
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Speaker 12: Granville Boys High School is one of the greatest success
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Speaker 12: stories of state education I have ever seen.
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Speaker 10: I actually went out there to do a story and
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Speaker 10: a video on it. I know the principle there.
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Speaker 12: He has turned that school around from basically a sort
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Speaker 12: of a no go zone where parents were pulling their
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Speaker 12: kids out because it was violent, had poor academic outcomes.
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Speaker 12: He's turning around to the point where now parents are
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Speaker 12: pretending they live in the district catchment so that they
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Speaker 12: can actually get their kids back in. It's overachieving in
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Speaker 12: all these incredible areas. It just sent a robotics team
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Speaker 12: to this international competition in the US where they're literally
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Speaker 12: building robots stuff that I have no idea how these
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Speaker 12: kids do it. So it's really, I think sad to
47:55
Speaker 12: see the incredible work that that school has done is
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Speaker 12: doing and how it is honestly miraculous this turnaround, and
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Speaker 12: then the principle deserves absolute plaudits for being able to
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Speaker 12: do it. And then there, you know, one appropriate decision
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Speaker 12: is made to try to stop this kind of fervor
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Speaker 12: from being whipped up by the student support person who
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Speaker 12: works there, and suddenly it's on our TV screens for
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Speaker 12: this kind of reason. Looking like it's a hot bed
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Speaker 12: of you know, extremism or radicalism or whatever, when in
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Speaker 12: fact it's actually a hot bed of just incredible educational outcomes.
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Speaker 12: But because a certain group of teachers wanted to put
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Speaker 12: their politics ahead of the school's reputation, we are seeing
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Speaker 12: it on the TV in a completely different light. And
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Speaker 12: that is an absolute goddamn tragedy.
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Speaker 2: Absolute pleasure to have you both, and we'll all be watching,
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Speaker 2: of course on Sunday night. Paul Murray, We've got Las
48:54
Speaker 2: Vegas Rugby leagues back, baby, two games back to back
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Speaker 2: afternoon and night. How good is it going to be?
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Speaker 2: And how good will it be if Donald Trump turns up?
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Speaker 2: Thank you both for joining us. Also some news this
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Speaker 2: afternoon that we may have a mini economic statement coming
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Speaker 2: up in the next couple of weeks or even maybe
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Speaker 2: next week, which means the election might be a fair
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Speaker 2: way away. Let's see what the world, according to Rwandine's
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Speaker 2: all about tonight