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The Greatest ChatGPT Romance Ever Told · Outside Issues

• 0:00
  Speaker A: Come, let's mix Where Rockefellers walk with sticks or Rumbarellers in their midst. Welcome to Outside Issues with Audrey and Patrick.
• 0:16
  Speaker B: It was funny. On Friday, I, like, go into the office. I don't have many clients, but they're like, I don't really feel like talking about anything serious today. I was just like, I have cat ears on. Like, for fuck's sakes. Of course we're not going to talk about anything serious.
• 0:34
  Speaker A: That was. Your clients came in with that. That's funny.
• 0:37
  Speaker B: Yeah, they're like, I just don't want to talk about anything serious. Can we talk about, like, I don't know, Halloween candy? And I was like, sure, yeah.
• 0:45
  Speaker A: The Dodgers.
• 0:46
  Speaker B: The Dodgers. Winning is one of those things where it's like, I. Like, I would be more cognizant of it if it was like. If I was there, but here, like, nobody cares.
• 0:58
  Speaker A: So, like, yeah, it's a different universe out here. Like, everybody's walking around in the merch, and I'm a little bit of a poser because I'm not a big baseball guy, but I just love the communal positivity surrounding this. And so, like, whenever I see somebody walk by with, you know, a jersey or a hat or whatever, I'm just like, go, Dodgers. And it's a little fedora tip that we do to each other. What's going on? You said there's an ICE raid outside.
• 1:22
  Speaker B: Your building, this office that just got raided. Not my office, but, like, still very, very, very close. This is in a wealthy suburb of Seattle. Apparently, like, a lot of clients saw it and were triggered. And so they're just kind of like. They're hanging out in our lobby right now, waiting for ICE to leave, which who knows when that will be.
• 1:47
  Speaker A: So it's a bunch of tacked up peanut heads like we're used to seeing in the videos. But now their vehicles pulled up outside your building, and they're just in the lobby, or they're monitoring the facilities for somebody.
• 1:59
  Speaker B: They're monitoring the facilities, and they're going around the residential areas. I wish I was there, but I also wish I wasn't there, because if I was there, I feel like I would get, like, I would have a violent tendency within me and be like, hang on a second. Client, who I'm talking to about your feelings. Like, I want to go outside and, like, punch an ICE agent.
• 2:23
  Speaker A: Yeah, like.
• 2:24
  Speaker B: Like, steal the. Steal the face mask off of them.
• 2:27
  Speaker A: There's no, like, positive utility to this agency. It's really. It's just a gestapo. I Go to so many places where there's Hispanic workforce. You know, like, they're just. That's. That's the thing about LA in particular is that they. They are part of us. And just the idea of somebody. Goons cruising by to, like, abduct your friends, you know, like, I went to the Portuguese Ben Riding Club out in Palos Verdes to go. I've been learning how to take care of horses. And it's like almost entirely Hispanic people work in the stables out there. And I don't have the heart to ask. Like, it's. One of my clients is a friend who has a horse that we play with. And I don't. I don't have the heart to ask her, like, what. Have you seen those guys around? You know, like, have they been. Has ICE been fudgeing with Portuguese Bend? Because I don't want to know the answer. I mean, I don't know. Like, it seems like. Seems like a place that they would like to come and make a scene because there's a. There's a Trump golf course not too far from there in pv. You know, I mean, I'm sure there's.
• 3:32
  Speaker B: Where my parents live. My parents live in Rancho pv.
• 3:36
  Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm over it too. I'm over it. And I want to do something. And, yeah, we got to figure out what to do. We spend so much time talking about the crisis, the mess, the pain that's happening inside and outside with politics and how to navigate that. Um, but we, you know, we should give some lip service at least to the healthy ways that we detach and like, the ways that we find our joy. You were going to, like, take a walk, and it might have been on your lunch break at work or something like that, but you wanted to see just a little bit of Seattle. And I thought that, like, that was just something we say. We tell ourselves we're going to do a lot of the time and then just don't make the time for it.
• 4:18
  Speaker B: It was a really hot week here, and so, like, you know, I kind of got. Oh, it was Labor Day weekend. Labor Day week. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna, like, take a walk around the neighborhood that. Both neighborhoods that I work at. Like, one of them is very nature y and the other one is city. So I had a really good time. And it was. Yeah, it was a really, really, really good time. And, like, I love wandering, to be quite honest. I loved. I loved walking around the city more because I just. I'm a. I love walking around Cities.
• 4:53
  Speaker A: Me too. I'm more that kind of guy. Yeah.
• 4:56
  Speaker B: Yeah. I like to be in nature, just to be quiet, I guess. But I'm not kind of like a, like a like intense hiker or walker or anything like that. But yeah, that was a good way to decompress and get, get tanner. But now I'm clearly. We're in. We're in what we called the, the big gray, the long way. It's gray outside, it's raining. It's not going to be sunny for the foreseeable future, so that's okay. And I'm now like embracing my, my skin color, my paleness. I'm embracing my, my pastiness and I'm like, you know what? I live in the Pacific Northwest. I don't live in Southern California anymore. I don't have to be tan all the time. Like just, just whatever, whatever.
• 5:52
  Speaker A: You work a lot, you do a lot of hours. What's your little joyful pocket of life? And like, what does that look like?
• 5:57
  Speaker B: I really like to. I really like to go on this is. Sounds so Gen Z. I really like to go tick tock and like look for inspiring quotes, I guess. And just things that make me, that are, that are designed to make me emotional. Like lately I don't know if I've unlocked some sort of estrogen like floodgate or something, but I've been like very emotional and like able to cry, which is not normal for me. I'm really excited about that. Like this morning, like I think there was. Which of course we're not the biggest fan of Gavin Newsom and everything, but like he was there at a conference for, you know, labor and I was just. Then they were like, Californians are this, like we're. We're Californians. And then I started getting a little emotional and I was just like, I'm a Californian, I'm not there. But it, it's good because. Makes me have emotional release. Otherwise I like to, I like to watch really random things over and over and over again because I have, you know, a little tiny bit of like the tism.
• 7:23
  Speaker A: Oh yeah, you do like to kind of like write repetition right there is this.
• 7:30
  Speaker B: So I don't know, you know, like virtual reality games, like, and like, I guess hangout spaces. There's like virtual reality hangout spaces where tons of people just like will like, you know, do their, do their thing and like, you know, come and meet each other kind of like meta. But I think it's better. There's this, there's this. I've Been watching, like, replays of. Of these. Of these, like, hangouts, and there's this one character. Its name is. It's. I don't know what gender it is, but it's definitely. It's like a worm. And his name is Marcus. And it says the most random things you could ever say. And it's like he goes, there's an issue. I have fueled my Toyota Camry with 1% milk.
• 8:26
  Speaker A: Marcus is an adorable worm name, by the way. It has to be in the top five worm names.
• 8:31
  Speaker B: Yeah, I would. I. I mean, if anybody wants to look up Marcus the worm or Marcus, he also kind of looks like a sardine, but who knows what he is. But, like, what he says is just the most random because my. My humor is extremely random. Like, he's like. He'll say something like, I found out that I cannot wire money from the mafia through a locally owned Greek restaurant.
• 9:01
  Speaker A: Yes, you can. Absolutely. The local Greek restaurants will. Will work with you on that. Yeah, I should talk to Marcus.
• 9:09
  Speaker B: Right? Exactly. They. I think they would. And like, I think a viral one where he's like, standing at a campfire and, like, there's rocks around the fire. He just is looking and he's like, I don't like this rock. It's pissing me off. Like, so that's kind of what I do in my free time is I watch these.
• 9:33
  Speaker A: Crack yourself up.
• 9:35
  Speaker B: I crack myself up. I really enjoy seeing the most random I could ever imagine. I also really like going down to the local beach, which is like, it's like the quintessential PNW beach kind of little area. It's got like, driftwood and like, you know, you can see the islands because it's a ferry terminal as well. It's just beautiful. And so I like going down there and stepping on the rocks and seeing different sort of like marine life. I always. And because, like, you know, there's the sound. It's not the ocean or anything like that, but it's still. It's like still water kind of. And I don't know, I'm a little bit of like a like, spiritual woo woo sort of person. And whenever I think of. Whenever I think of folks I love who have passed on, whenever the sound kind of like whooshes a little bit, a little bit more, I keep thinking like, oh, that's them. That's them saying hi. Or if I like, I'll throw a rock into the sound as like, you know, in memoriam or something. Like, this one's for you. Like, I love You. And, you know, I'll maybe say a quote that they've said to me. Like, I had a friend who tragically passed away and a friend from the rooms named Thomas, who. He was only 26. He OD'd maybe three years ago or something like that. And in early sobriety, probably well within my first three to four years sober, I felt I did not feel attractive or I felt like I was like the. Like. Like if I went out into public, people would make fun of how I looked. Like, that was the cognitive dissonance. Dissonance I was going through that I hadn't worked on. And Thomas, I remember he and I would stay after this meeting every Wednesday night. And one day he told me something like, you know what? It must be really hard to be pretty. And I was like, that's so nice.
• 12:00
  Speaker A: I remember the compliments. I really remember the compliments. Yes, they will keep me warm many a winter. The nice things that people said to me, however, off the cuff or. I don't think people realize how much that can mean sometimes when they're just generous like that. If I can get to a movie, I'm. I try to get to a couple a week. That's like my tomb, where nothing can really. I don't get any messages, and I'm not on the phone. It's. It's just a kind of liminal space where it's just me and the story. And I really love that. That's a really restorative practice that I do. And then I like to write my little letterbox reviews and. And that could be fun. It's kind of like the closest I. I've gotten these days to. To doing a diary. It's just like, you know, I write about the movies I'm into, and then, you know, when I'm driving, I catch up on calls with people in the fellowship, you know, or with just people in general. I'm always wary of calling you because I never want you to feel like you're giving out free therapy.
• 13:03
  Speaker B: Oh, no, no, no, no. You can ask me advice. You're one of the. You're. You're on the good list. You're on the list of, like, people. I would.
• 13:12
  Speaker A: I guess people do that probably with you, and it's just like they do all the time.
• 13:16
  Speaker B: And some people are just like. I'm like, either you give me a hundred bucks or, like, I'll give you a referral. Like, that's as much energy as I'm giving you, but you're. You're on the list of like, oh, I would help anytime.
• 13:30
  Speaker A: Oh, well, thank you. That's really sweet because, yeah, I really get so much out of chat with you and the horse. His name's Iggy Flash. And yeah, like I said, one of my clients AS has IG and I'm learning mostly just ground techniques now. It's really interesting with horses because it's very energy based. I don't, for lack of a better term, what do they call those? Like, the Segway scooters, where you just kind of lean and then the Segways. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like. Right. It feels like that with the horse, where it's like, if I kind of start with this intent, there's almost just like a mind meld that happens with the horse. And it's like. Yeah, I literally can't get him to do anything unless I kind of begin with, like, a. A conscious decision to, you know, have him do this or that. And so lately, you know, I try to see him two times a month because it's kind of a track to get down there and to. To do it. And I'm usually there for a couple hours, but we groom him and I. I work with him on the ground, and it's. I don't know, it's feeling pretty. Pretty damn therapeutic. And like, we don't talk about politics, we don't talk about work. We're just catching up on personal stuff and horse. Horsemanship, so that's great.
• 14:44
  Speaker B: Equine therapy.
• 14:46
  Speaker A: Yeah, equine therapy. And then, yeah, like, I. This. The podcasting is what I've been doing for my creativity and my fun. And, you know, it kind of like, touches a lot of different areas of stuff, you know, that kind of like, releases me somewhat from, you know, just all the. All the negative stuff that I'm always seem to be involved with. But, you know, when it's not podcasting, you know, then it's writing, you know, creative writing that I do, and just making something, you know, like, the making of something feels like a liberation from, you know, the stress, the despair, all that.
• 15:24
  Speaker B: Me and my ChatGPT romance novel. That is a copy of mine.
• 15:30
  Speaker A: Are you writing one?
• 15:32
  Speaker B: Yeah, I started writing one back in, like, spring or something like that. And it's really hard to get. Like, I don't know what I've been doing. I've just been like, like, punching in things. Like, this character likes this, this character likes that, and it, like, really, like, gets a story going. So it's like, yeah, I don't want to give away the. The plot because it might be embarrassing. I guess that's a. That's another hobby of mine, is to use AI to write romance novels. When I'm not a novel writer whatsoever, I just write therapeutic notes.
• 16:07
  Speaker A: It'll be the next 50 Shades, I'm.
• 16:09
  Speaker B: Sure at some point there's some 50 Shades for sure.
• 16:13
  Speaker A: Is Bo Burnham in there?
• 16:14
  Speaker B: The main character looks like him. Okay, I like it, but is not the thing I really like. Bo Burnham is definitely my celebrity crush, but he's too tall and too skinny for me.
• 16:28
  Speaker A: You like somebody with more meat on their bones and a little bit more.
• 16:31
  Speaker B: And shorter and shorter. So that's like, I guess, the main male character, but it's like. It's like a little semblance, and you can create, you know, images, and it's pretty. It's pretty cool. It's like, imagine like, Bo burnham in his 40s, but, like, shorter, stockier, and, like, just. Just looks a little different. Like a. Like a different face. It's interesting.
• 16:55
  Speaker A: Love it. Yeah, You're. You're optimizing.
• 16:57
  Speaker B: I'm optimizing. I have some funny, weird little Halloween questions.
• 17:04
  Speaker A: Sure. Yeah.
• 17:05
  Speaker B: What's the most underrated Halloween candy?
• 17:08
  Speaker A: Like gummy spiders, gummy gummy worms, the different creepy crawlies, bats, you know, anything. You know, anything gummy, I think is just tops for me.
• 17:19
  Speaker B: I would say the flavored Tootsie Rolls. Like, the flavored. Like the flavored Tootsie Rolls.
• 17:26
  Speaker A: That's perfect. That's actually much more particular to the holiday because you get gummy all around year round. But, yeah, ye. I used to. I would never. Because, you know, sometimes we sift through the bags, and there's definitely some Halloween candy that I will leave untouched. Some Halloween candy that I'm just not feeling, you know, and it'll just kind of collect in a sad reservoir, you know, to the side of where the other rappers are that I'm discarding. But, yeah, no, the flavor. Tootsie Rolls. Cherry and orange.
• 17:52
  Speaker B: Yeah, I love those. Which classic monster, vampire, werewolf, mummy, ghost do you think would make the best roommate?
• 18:02
  Speaker A: Because I just saw the. The movie of Guillermo del Toro's version. I think Frankenstein would be, like, a super nice roommate because he's just misunderstood. You know, he's really strong. Like, if you had a home invader or something, no problem. He'd be just, like, pounded into vapor and. Yeah. You know, and amazingly eloquent. You guys could. You know, you can. You can go. You go. Go singing around the neighborhood, and, you know, the locals will give you cider. And, you know, if anybody asks why, who's that weird guy? You know, it's my cousin.
• 18:33
  Speaker B: Yeah, it's your cousin. Frankenstein.
• 18:34
  Speaker A: Yeah.
• 18:35
  Speaker B: I want to say, like, Casper, but I feel like he.
• 18:38
  Speaker A: Oh, that's good.
• 18:39
  Speaker B: I feel as if I would corrupt him with my. I feel like I might, like, you know, he's a little too innocent for me, so maybe.
• 18:50
  Speaker A: You know, it's funny you're just remembering when he turns into Devon Sawa at the end of the movie, because suanne was just reminding me about that she had a big crush on when Casper turns human at the end of Casper when she was a kid. And so, yeah, definitely. Incorruptible young man, what would your witch.
• 19:06
  Speaker B: Or warlock name be?
• 19:08
  Speaker A: Oh, it would be Steve.
• 19:13
  Speaker B: Steve. Steve the warlock. Yeah, I think it fits sister Natasha or something.
• 19:22
  Speaker A: Natasha is good. Yeah, there's something about that. It feels like deep occult ancestry.
• 19:27
  Speaker B: Yes. Yes. Would you rather fight a hundred tiny zombies or one giant spider?
• 19:34
  Speaker A: Oh, my God. That is a. That's a pickle right there.
• 19:37
  Speaker B: I'm going with zombies.
• 19:38
  Speaker A: I mean, because giant spider, I'm no match for it. I mean, you know, those things are the behemoths, you know, like, the best I could do is run away, but I've only got two legs, you know, one I'm still rehabbing. You know, the spider's got eight. And giant mandibles. So, yeah, I'm sticking with the zombies. And maybe we need to reopen our discussion on firearms, because I'll probably need one.
• 20:02
  Speaker B: Let's see. If you could talk to ghosts, but only on Halloween. Who would you call? I don't know if you've been watching Monster. The monster series.
• 20:13
  Speaker A: Oh, you watched that? See, I thought you didn't like scary stuff like that.
• 20:18
  Speaker B: I like watching that kind of stuff. Well, so my favorite serial killer is Jeffrey Dahmer.
• 20:25
  Speaker A: My least favorite is John Wayne Gacy. I watched a little thing about him a couple of weeks ago, and I did not finish it. I was just like, dude, that's.
• 20:32
  Speaker B: No, I don't blame you. I really like. I really like Jeffrey Dahmer because he was just so, like, you know, unsuspecting. And then all of a sudden, it's.
• 20:43
  Speaker A: Like, whoa.
• 20:45
  Speaker B: I have a thing if. A thing about Wisconsin. Jeffrey Dahmer had that thick Wisconsin accent even though he was a serial killer. I'm just like, this is comforting in a way. But anyhow, I watched both the Jeffrey Dahmer monster series, and then now it's. Right now. What's playing Is the Ed Gein series?
• 21:07
  Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. The hottest Ed Gein, you know, that has yet to grace the screen at this point.
• 21:13
  Speaker B: Oh my God, right now, Charlie Hunnam.
• 21:16
  Speaker A: I'm just like, no, not in the top five uses of Charlie Hunnam in my opinion.
• 21:19
  Speaker B: But it's interesting to see his character. He's just kind of like.
• 21:26
  Speaker A: Well, he's kind of a bumpkin, right? Isn't that kind of like Ed Gein's deal is that he's like, where is he from?
• 21:31
  Speaker B: Wisconsin.
• 21:32
  Speaker A: Oh, he's from Wisconsin. Okay. I thought so.
• 21:35
  Speaker B: Dahmer, Both from Wisconsin.
• 21:37
  Speaker A: Damn. I don't know if I'm gonna go to Wisconsin, but yeah, I know.
• 21:41
  Speaker B: Well, here in Washington state we had Ted Bundy at first, which, which ironically is the. His. He found his first victim probably about a mile or two away from the place I work in.
• 21:58
  Speaker A: Wow.
• 21:59
  Speaker B: Lake Sammamish, you know.
• 22:01
  Speaker A: You know your serial killer facts.
• 22:03
  Speaker B: I do know a lot of serial killer facts. I'm sure that your girlfriend does too.
• 22:07
  Speaker A: She does. You know, it's the, it's the people you suspect the least. I gotta say.
• 22:13
  Speaker B: Yeah, my partner loves. Loves true crime and like, probably more than I do. I mean, maybe my, my true crime thing was really short lived in my 20s, but I know a lot of.
• 22:29
  Speaker A: Information on it that's perfect the way that works out. That means you guys, your programming habits are the same, more or less.
• 22:35
  Speaker B: If you found a book of spells, would you open it or burn it?
• 22:39
  Speaker A: Oh, I'm opening it. I mean, there's just me too. Yeah, you know, it's that addict thing. You know, I'll try anything once, right? And I'm pretty sure there's a carve out in the big book. You know, spells are. Okay, you can indulge in that and keep your sobriety date.
• 22:53
  Speaker B: I keep Guy. I watched Hocus Pocus on Halloween and I keep thinking of like Winifred Sanderson's book with the Eye, like, oh, I want that book. I wonder what I could do. I don't know. Well, I just might be kind of an easy question, but would you rather give out king size candy bars or scare every trick or treater instead?
• 23:14
  Speaker A: Damn, that's like a real like Rorschach test for how fucked up are you? In the interest of making the world a better place, you know, tooth enamel be damned. Give them the king size candy bars.
• 23:27
  Speaker B: Give them the king size candy bars. I don't. I don't know how I would scare a trick or treater. Maybe just be Like, I'm in my late 30s and I'm a like radical progressive.
• 23:40
  Speaker A: Right.
• 23:43
  Speaker B: That would. Sure. That would probably scare some parents of trick or treaters.
• 23:47
  Speaker A: I would love to see. And I'm sure somebody did it like some RFK costumes for Halloween. And it's just basically like a. Like a rotting corpse.
• 23:56
  Speaker B: Oh, my God. I can only imagine a bunch of.
• 24:01
  Speaker A: Oh, no. And you do the blue tongue because he's always taking that like, supplement where you like do drops of the blue stuff.
• 24:08
  Speaker B: I think it might be iodine.
• 24:10
  Speaker A: Yeah, it's like some kind of like, I don't know, bullshit about this. This will make you age in reverse if you.
• 24:17
  Speaker B: Yeah, I used to take iodine as a supplement and it didn't really do anything for me. It just like. But I did read that it's possibly good for like, pregnant women. So there's a study on that. Like a legitimate study, not an rfk Junior. There's a study on. There's. There is a study on this. God. If you could invite three horror movie characters to dinner, who's on your guest list?
• 24:51
  Speaker A: Ichabod Crane from Sleepy Hollow. You know, he could teach me some kind of like, old timey forensic techniques. Ed Wood from It's a movie about a horror filmmaker. It's not, but not precisely a horror movie, but it's another Johnny Depp character. Okay. If you're noticing a theme. Okay. And then, I don't know, since we're on Johnny Depp, there's some scary stuff that happens in Pirates of the Caribbean. So Captain Jack Sparrow too. So Ichabod Crane, Ed Wood and Captain Jack Sparrow. And, you know, making no apologies for Mr. Depp's personal conduct. But the tricky thing is that we always think of horror movies in terms of their monsters. So. Yeah, no thanks. I'm not going to invite somebody over to butcher me. So. No. Freddy, Jason, Mike Myers, none of those guys stay out, I guess.
• 25:36
  Speaker B: Like maybe Dr. Jekyll.
• 25:39
  Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And just, you know, keep him off the sauce or, you know, whatever that.
• 25:43
  Speaker B: Potion is, Whatever that potion is, just keep him off of that. I kind of would like to see Edward Cullen. Like, why not, dude?
• 25:52
  Speaker A: He. I mean, Edward would be like the best possible vampire to have over because, like, he spends his whole. His entire waking hours trying to not eat people.
• 26:02
  Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he's. He's great. And he's sparkly.
• 26:04
  Speaker A: Yeah, he sparkles.
• 26:06
  Speaker B: So what? And, you know, he's not too far away from here in Forks. What's scarier? Dolls that blink or paintings whose eyes.
• 26:15
  Speaker A: Follow you dolls that blink.
• 26:17
  Speaker B: Me too.
• 26:18
  Speaker A: Yeah. Because a two dimensional image, as creepy as it is, you just turn it around, you know, you, you turn it towards the wall and problem solved. But if one of those dolls were to become possessed somewhat, you know, they could run around on the little legs and there's little chubby legs and you know, cut your own legs from out from under you. No. No, thank you.
• 26:38
  Speaker B: Nope.
• 26:39
  Speaker A: You're with me on that one.
• 26:40
  Speaker B: I'm with you on that one for sure. Plus if you've ever, you know, Disneyland and the Haunted Mansion, the, the, the statue's eyes follow you. Anyway, so I'm kind of used to that.
• 26:51
  Speaker A: I, I used to love the, the gag. I think it's in a couple Mel Brooks movies where the eyes would follow like the painting eyes would follow the characters and then he would actually switch out the paintings. You know, like he would cut like, you know, he would do the reaction shot. So we'd cut to a reaction shot of like one of the actors and then when you cut back to the painting, it's got like a different facial expression on or you know, you can imagine the joke. Yeah, yeah. So I would always laugh at that.
• 27:15
  Speaker B: I think you need to make me a list of movies that I need to watch because I'm one of those. Because of my tism. I watch things over and over and over again that I discovered in the 90s or the early 2000. So if you could same, you're the movie genius. So like, you know, if you could make me a list of like you must watch these movies. I've seen, I've seen, I've seen the Godfather, so you don't have to put that one on there.
• 27:44
  Speaker A: The longer we do this, I'll get that list going and you know, I'll, I'll make one, I'll tailor one to you. And so when I get a healthy amount of movies on there, I'll share it with you and you can, you know, go hunting at your, at your discretion.
• 27:57
  Speaker B: Awesome. I'm excited.
• 27:59
  Speaker A: God, I sure hope that ICE came up empty handed. Where, where they are.
• 28:03
  Speaker B: Me too. I'm going to have to. I'll check back in with people tomorrow and I'll see, I'm going to monitor. I'll, I'll keep you updated if, if there's more activity. So you know, if I hear about more activity. But fuck ice.
• 28:18
  Speaker A: Yeah, fuck ice. Defund the police and Medicare for all.
• 28:22
  Speaker B: Exactly.
• 28:23
  Speaker A: Yeah. Go Mandami, Go Mondame. Yeah, well, we'll know soon. Soon.
• 28:29
  Speaker B: Yep, yep. To ish, I think. Hopefully.
• 28:32
  Speaker A: All right. It's looking good.