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Supergirl Is Basically the WNBA · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews you need to start
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Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to The West Carol Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Monday morning, twenty ninth day of June. I'm Wes, thanks
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Speaker 2: for joining me. This is week two fifty, right, this
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Speaker 2: is the lead up. We're in the final days to
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Speaker 2: the big celebrations coming up on Saturday for the two
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Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth birthday or anniversary or whatever you want
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Speaker 2: to call it of this country. And it's big, big
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Speaker 2: celebration for some. For some it's a big deal. For others,
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Speaker 2: it's you know, fuld your arms and poke out your
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Speaker 2: lip and be sad and frustrated and hate the president
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Speaker 2: and all those things. But that's just what they're going
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Speaker 2: to do. Sometimes people do what people are going to do.
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Speaker 2: And look, I understand, and you may not like the president.
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Speaker 2: You may not feel like, oh, it's just not worth
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Speaker 2: celebrating when he's the president, and that that may be
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Speaker 2: the case. But here, here's the thing you have to
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Speaker 2: realize is we've had a lot of presidents, and we
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Speaker 2: have had I guess forty five, right, because two of
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Speaker 2: them have had the job twice, and we have not
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Speaker 2: collectively as a country always liked whoever the president was right,
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Speaker 2: you just I mean, even you want to get technical.
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Speaker 2: In those early days, it was it was pretty pretty universal.
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Speaker 2: But I know there were a lot that still you know,
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Speaker 2: there were some didn't like it. But my point is,
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Speaker 2: think about this from the standpoint of those uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: original founders, the people who put everything on the line
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Speaker 2: by signing the Declaration Dependence Independence that were putting everything
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Speaker 2: on the line. Many of them had come from places
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Speaker 2: where they had already had to put things on the
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Speaker 2: line and lost them. I have ancestry who went through
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Speaker 2: that path and got to the States from Ireland and
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Speaker 2: had to do it again. There was a lot. Think
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Speaker 2: about that, right, Just think about the idea of you know,
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Speaker 2: you got to put something on the line, you lose it,
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Speaker 2: you end up in the US. Well that wasn't the US.
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Speaker 2: Then you end up in the colonies, but you end
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Speaker 2: up here and you're struggling. You're trying to make things work,
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Speaker 2: You're trying to do what you can do to make
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Speaker 2: it work. And then you get to this point where
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Speaker 2: it's like it's now or never. We're either gonna make
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Speaker 2: this declaration or we're going to continue on and be
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Speaker 2: right back where we were with an oppressive government, so
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Speaker 2: they put it all on the line again. I don't
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Speaker 2: know that I could do that. And I've got it
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Speaker 2: in me genetically, somewhere deep down in my wiring. It's there.
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Speaker 2: Just don't know that I could do it twice. It's tough.
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Speaker 2: So think about that, Think about people that died. I
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Speaker 2: know we'll do more of this as we lead up
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Speaker 2: to Saturday, but I can't help but just think about
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Speaker 2: people who were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice and
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Speaker 2: did in the name of this idea that this country
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Speaker 2: could become what they intended it to be from the beginning.
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Speaker 2: And we have so many people who just they don't
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Speaker 2: like they hate it. They're just here and they hate it,
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Speaker 2: and they don't want it to be what it is.
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Speaker 2: They want to change it, they want it to be
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Speaker 2: something else. And I understand if you go we want
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Speaker 2: to be better, but you can't make it better by
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Speaker 2: making it worse. You can't make it better by trying
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Speaker 2: to change it into something that's never succeeded anywhere in
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Speaker 2: the world. And yet that's what we're doing, not us,
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Speaker 2: that's what some are doing. There's tweaks you can make
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Speaker 2: tweaks along the way. We've had lots of tweaks. We've
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Speaker 2: had significant jumps that weren't just tweaks. We've had lots
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Speaker 2: of milestones. Anyway, we'll talk more on all that fun
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Speaker 2: stuff as the week goes on. I want to start
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Speaker 2: today because I touched on this sum and I think
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Speaker 2: there's a good parallel this morning with a couple of things.
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Speaker 2: I want to start. First of all, Supergirl is a flop.
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Speaker 2: This is a movie that this you know, they started
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Speaker 2: this new DC Cinematic Universe was the idea they're gonna
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Speaker 2: come in, they're gonna make uh.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: They they get James Gunn, who directed the Guardians of
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Speaker 2: the Galaxy movies, and they said, we're gonna get James Gunn,
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Speaker 2: and he's gonna be the guy. You know, he's he
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Speaker 2: had already done some stuff for for uh, for d C.
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Speaker 2: And they say he's gonna come in. He's gonna make
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Speaker 2: the he's gonna give him a new Superman or give
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Speaker 2: him a new Batman, or give him all the all
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Speaker 2: the characters pretty much are gonna be all new, and
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Speaker 2: he's gonna make these movies and he's gonna finally make
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Speaker 2: DC something to be proud of, right, And look, they
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Speaker 2: tried it when Marvel came in, and Marvel did the slow,
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Speaker 2: steady build. They took characters like Iron Man, who at
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Speaker 2: best before they did it was like a C level character,
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Speaker 2: turned him into the guy that the whole Marvel universe
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Speaker 2: really you know, orbited. There were a couple others in
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Speaker 2: there too, but they took him, and they took Captain America,
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Speaker 2: they took Thor. They built this, the three of them
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Speaker 2: into this, this whole universe did the slow build, and
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Speaker 2: they got to eventually to like a huge payoff, and
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Speaker 2: it was just amazing. Like the Wark, you look at
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Speaker 2: the ten years, eleven years, whatever it was, and you go,
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Speaker 2: this is unreal. And they they found a way to
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Speaker 2: bring it all together into this huge climax, you go,
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Speaker 2: well done. Star Wars tried to do that a little
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Speaker 2: bit of that with their their sequel trilogy, and you know,
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Speaker 2: they tried to have like a big moment at the end,
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Speaker 2: and it just you know, now didn't quite work because
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Speaker 2: you didn't have the full build up. And then you
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Speaker 2: had DC that said we're just gonna jump right to
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Speaker 2: the to the end. We're not gonna We're not gonna
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Speaker 2: have the slow build. We'll have a couple of movies
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Speaker 2: and then we're gonna go go for all of it
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Speaker 2: didn't work, so they said, well, now we're gonna do this.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna jump in, we're gonna do this slow build,
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Speaker 2: and we're working on this long story and we got Superman.
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Speaker 2: Superman was successful. It wasn't the monster hit that they
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Speaker 2: wanted it to be, but it was certainly enough of
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Speaker 2: a hit of success for them to go, all right,
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Speaker 2: we're back. We're going to follow that up with Supergirl. Now,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this, I don't there's layers to
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Speaker 2: to some of this stuff with Supergirl, as far as
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Speaker 2: the actress that was cast in it. The first thing
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Speaker 2: that you have to understand, and you can this is
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Speaker 2: a new thing that you can do with movies, is
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Speaker 2: you know, if they're expecting it to flop, like if
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Speaker 2: you've got if you've got a movie that like like
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Speaker 2: a Supergirl type movie or the Marvels or some of
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Speaker 2: these movies, and you go, this is probably not going
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Speaker 2: to do well, and they kind of get the idea,
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Speaker 2: maybe it's not going to do well. What really tips
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Speaker 2: you off that they're giving up on it is when
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Speaker 2: the studio starts talking about or peete actors involved in it,
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Speaker 2: or some of the critics start saying things like, you
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Speaker 2: just wait and see the trolls online are going to
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Speaker 2: trash this movie and it's not going to do well.
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Speaker 2: And they had the girl who plays Supergirl, Millie Alcock.
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Speaker 2: She's been in the Game of Thrones universe, an Australian actress.
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Speaker 2: She's she seems like a fine actress. I got nothing
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Speaker 2: against her as an actress. I think for some there
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Speaker 2: were some criticisms about she doesn't kind of she's not
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Speaker 2: like a stunner for some people. I don't. I don't.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's some unflattering pictures of her, but she's
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Speaker 2: a she's like a nice looking woman. There's nothing. Some
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Speaker 2: of the photos they look unflattering. But I don't know
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Speaker 2: what people were expecting. I don't know what their thoughts
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Speaker 2: were when the Supergirl gets cast, but you know they
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Speaker 2: cast her, Okay, Well, she starts doing the rounds about
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Speaker 2: and she's men feel like they get to own women's
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Speaker 2: bodies in these movies and they get to women owe
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Speaker 2: them something or whatever. And then you know, so they're
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Speaker 2: probably not gonna let this movie do or whatever. She
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Speaker 2: said some version of all that right away if you
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Speaker 2: want to get men to like completely lose interest in
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Speaker 2: a movie that they typically don't have a big interest
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Speaker 2: in anyway. And Supergirl was never written for men. It's
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Speaker 2: never been written for men. So the movie made thirty
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Speaker 2: eight million dollars I think for the weekend, which is
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Speaker 2: was it thirty eight Was it even that high? It
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Speaker 2: fell short of forty. It didn't do much better than
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Speaker 2: Masters of the Universe, the he Man movie that they
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Speaker 2: immediately were like, this thing is a flop, this is
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Speaker 2: a stinker. Now the difference is critics for Masters of
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Speaker 2: the Universe have said that the movie was great, the
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Speaker 2: audience just wasn't there. Supergirl is like, there was a
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Speaker 2: little bit more audience, but for the most part, everybody's
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Speaker 2: saying it best. It's mediocre, it's all right, it's not great,
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Speaker 2: it's not terrible. It's somewhere in the middle. And it
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Speaker 2: kind of has me thinking about another topic that we
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Speaker 2: talked about the end of last week, which is a
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Speaker 2: WNBA and I think there's some parallels here if you
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Speaker 2: think about it, because Supergirl it's you know, like the
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Speaker 2: audience originally this like it's like he Man and Sira.
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Speaker 2: They wanted a female he Man, they made Shira. They
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Speaker 2: didn't expect boys to you know, be ah, yeah, Shira.
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Speaker 2: It's great. And for the most part, that's what happened.
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Speaker 2: They stuck with he Man, girls went to Shira and
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Speaker 2: that was that. So and I even saw where someone
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Speaker 2: online posted it was a gay gentleman who said Supergirl
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Speaker 2: was for us and women, it's not for men. Don't
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Speaker 2: be surprised that men didn't come out to watch it.
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Speaker 2: And to me, it's like, especially if you're going to
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Speaker 2: insult the men before they even get a chance to
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Speaker 2: watch it. So there's that. Then there's a WNBA. And
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Speaker 2: the criticism about the WNBA has always been men aren't
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Speaker 2: coming out to watch this. A lot of women don't
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Speaker 2: go watch it. It's had a build up of an audience.
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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark has given it a little bit more footing.
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Speaker 2: You got a few people in the league now that
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Speaker 2: are starting to get some interest. But let's be honest,
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Speaker 2: it's a league for women to go watch, and women
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Speaker 2: don't really go watch it. They're not enough to make
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Speaker 2: this thing a mega hit. Same for Supergirl. It's just
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Speaker 2: the audience just isn't there. And I'm just telling you
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Speaker 2: the reality of it. It's not like I'm saying I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying anything controversial or new or you know. I
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Speaker 2: know people want to say, well, men should go and
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Speaker 2: watch both of these things, and if they don't, it's
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Speaker 2: because they think women owe them something. And it's saying,
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Speaker 2: just a good product, that's what men want. If this
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Speaker 2: movie was amazing and it just you know, blow your
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Speaker 2: socks off good by the end of the weekend, they
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Speaker 2: would have been line. And I'm not saying men didn't
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Speaker 2: go see it. I'm just pointing out the fact that
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Speaker 2: somebody didn't go see it. Somebody looked at this and went, ah,
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Speaker 2: wait till it's streaming. It's Warner Brothers. It'll be on
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Speaker 2: you know, HBO Max in a couple of months. I'll
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Speaker 2: watch it at home. No rush, It's the reality. If
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Speaker 2: they think, man, I've got to go see this in
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Speaker 2: the theater and have that experience, that's different. But this
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Speaker 2: is what it is. And then you got the WNBA,
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Speaker 2: and we talked about this a little bit last week.
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Speaker 2: They're actively allowing players in the WNBA to just beat
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Speaker 2: up on Caitlin Clark in games. Whatever they want to do.
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Speaker 2: They knock her down, they hit her, they run up
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Speaker 2: and just like cheap shot her over and over again.
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Speaker 2: They finally the girl who just you know last week
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Speaker 2: fell like put her knee on Caitlin Clark on the
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Speaker 2: floor and then her fist in her throat. They suspended
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Speaker 2: her for one game. When are they going to spend
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Speaker 2: the referees, That's what I want to know of the
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Speaker 2: referees account. Did anything happen? I didn't see anything. Did
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Speaker 2: the referees? Are they gonna be held to account for
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Speaker 2: just allowing it to have to watch it happen and
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Speaker 2: then allow it to happen and act like nothing happened.
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Speaker 2: And then you got the coach for Kaitlin Clark's team,
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Speaker 2: the Fever. I gotta tell you the team because honestly,
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Speaker 2: maybe you know it, maybe you don't, but she's their
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Speaker 2: star player. And the coach for the team is like,
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Speaker 2: what are you doing? And when I say she's their
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Speaker 2: star player, I don't mean the Fever, I mean the league.
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Speaker 2: She's the only real thing they have going for him
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Speaker 2: right now as far as something new and a fresh face,
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Speaker 2: and like this is your window for her to really
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Speaker 2: help it catch fire. If it's going to this is
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Speaker 2: your best shot, the best attendance. When she's playing, she's
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Speaker 2: the messy of the WNBA. If she's there, people are watching.
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Speaker 2: If she's not, they may not be there. And this
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Speaker 2: is what's happening with Supergirl. And it's just this, this
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Speaker 2: thing that we're seeing playing out is something that they
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Speaker 2: want men to be interested in, but they're not delivering
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Speaker 2: fully on the product. The first thing the WNBA needs
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Speaker 2: to do on delivering on the product is go, hey,
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Speaker 2: this is our superstar. Treat her like superstar. They put
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Speaker 2: out their thirty years of Star Players poster or something,
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Speaker 2: and they didn't even have Caleb Clark on the poster.
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Speaker 2: They think we're stupid that we're just gonna pretend to
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Speaker 2: and other players that are contemporaries. It's not like they
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Speaker 2: only had Cheryl Swoops in there or whatever. I didn't
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Speaker 2: have Cheryl Miller was the only person. Like, No, it's
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Speaker 2: thirty years of their elite players and you're not going
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Speaker 2: to include the one that has gotten more draw and
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Speaker 2: more attention than all of the others combined. And again
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Speaker 2: I said this Thursday or Friday, whatever it was. I'm
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Speaker 2: not this. This is not a Jason Whitlock thing. There's things
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Speaker 2: he can say about all of this that I can't say.
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Speaker 2: But Jason Whitlock has addressed this, probably to the point
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Speaker 2: where he's tired of talking about it. But the reality
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Speaker 2: is there's a certain player that they think this is
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Speaker 2: who we want to promote, and it's not her. We
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Speaker 2: don't want someone who looks like that, we don't want
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Speaker 2: someone who acts like that. He argues that she's straight
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Speaker 2: and white, and that's why they're not going to promote her.
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Speaker 2: They're not going to put her on any posters, and
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Speaker 2: they're not going to do those things. But you can't
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Speaker 2: expect this to become better than a thirty eight million
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Speaker 2: dollar movie by having your star tell everybody that I'm
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Speaker 2: in or I think they own women's bodies. Just make
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Speaker 2: a good movie. Stop giving us the excuse before the
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Speaker 2: movie comes out, and if you got something good in
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Speaker 2: the movie, a good product on the basketball court, don't
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Speaker 2: actively let the other players physically abuse her during games.
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Speaker 2: I've seen calls online for people saying that Kaylyn Clark
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Speaker 2: needs to just leave, leave the country, go take a
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Speaker 2: huge payday to play in Europe where people will actually
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Speaker 2: watch her play, and she's not gonna get knocked around
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Speaker 2: because people are gonna go, wait a minute. People are
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Speaker 2: here to see her, and while she's here, they get
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Speaker 2: to see me. That's what's missing. That's what doesn't make
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Speaker 2: any sense. If they're there to see someone else, that's
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Speaker 2: your chance to win them over. You know what you do.
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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark's at your stadium. They're coming to see her
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Speaker 2: at your home game, and there's all these new people
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Speaker 2: there in attendance. You know what you have an opportunity
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Speaker 2: to do because I see it all the time. After
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Speaker 2: these games, the players walk around and meet fans and
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Speaker 2: sign autographs and take pictures. That's your chance. Maybe they
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Speaker 2: go buy your jersey. Missing opportunities. And this thing with
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Speaker 2: the movies, it's this built in excuse for why the
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Speaker 2: movies aren't gonna do well, and it really centers around
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Speaker 2: we see it's not gonna do well, so we have
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Speaker 2: to find someone to blame. So we're gonna blame the
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Speaker 2: men for not coming out. It's the same exact thing
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Speaker 2: that happened when the WNBA just wouldn't quite get over
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Speaker 2: after the break. So this is an interesting trend in music.
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Speaker 2: It's there's a new study that's been done and it
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Speaker 2: shows there has been a significant shift, a very dark
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Speaker 2: shift in pop music. And this study says that the
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Speaker 2: tone of pop music has gone darker in the last
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Speaker 2: sixty years. So researchers analyze hundreds of thousands of English
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Speaker 2: language songs from the sixties through today and probably not today.
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Speaker 2: This research could have been done at this point, like
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Speaker 2: if the study has been finished and completed, it can't
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Speaker 2: be songs that were released today or technically tomorrow. That's
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Speaker 2: but that's Tuesday, it's when the songs come out. But
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Speaker 2: they have found with their research that lyrics have steadily
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Speaker 2: shifted away from love, care, decency towards negative ideas conflict, cheating,
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Speaker 2: rule breaking, ex boyfriends, Taylor Swift, things like that. Uh sorry,
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Speaker 2: I know it's like been title of two of us.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I could think of the title of two of
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Speaker 2: her songs and it's not I don't have I'm not
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Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift hater. I just it's not my thing.
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Speaker 2: But basically it says it hits today more likely focused
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Speaker 2: on what researchers call moral vices harm anger, deception, cheating, boyfriends,
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Speaker 2: Taylor swift, then the virtues that dominated earlier decades. Researchers
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Speaker 2: say that music often acts like a mirror for society,
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Speaker 2: so the evolution of song lyrics could offer a window
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Speaker 2: into changing values and attitudes over time, the virtues of
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Speaker 2: earlier decades. I remember that song, Oh What a Night?
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Speaker 2: I remember that song. What about the under the boardwalks?
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Speaker 2: What were they doing under the boardwalk? Virtuous things? Anyway,
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Speaker 2: I know that it's a big shift because you have
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Speaker 2: a handful of those songs and then you have it
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Speaker 2: feels like most songs are that now. Not that I
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Speaker 2: haven't been I programmed pop music. I were programmed top
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Speaker 2: forty music for a long time, and I was seeing
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Speaker 2: those shifts happening back then, and it's been a long
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Speaker 2: time since I was programming that. So all right, there's
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Speaker 2: a city in if you're wanting to relocate and you
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Speaker 2: like cheese boy, have I got some news for you.
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Speaker 2: A Wisconsin city trying to lure new residents. Fond du Lack,
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Speaker 2: I guess or Lock. It's about an hour north of
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Speaker 2: Milwaukee and it's offering up ninety five hundred dollars to
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Speaker 2: people who will relocate and live there. Here there's some catches, though.
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Speaker 2: The package includes a cash stipend plus perks like local
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Speaker 2: memberships and community experiences. City Leader states aim to attract
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Speaker 2: younger workers and families as they deal with a labor
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Speaker 2: shortage and an aging population. Program part of a national
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Speaker 2: effort to match workers with smaller communities looking to grow.
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Speaker 2: To be eligible, you must be at least eighteen years
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Speaker 2: old currently live outside Wisconsin. Now here's the catch. You
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Speaker 2: have to have an annual household income of at least
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Speaker 2: fifty five thousand dollars. So they're not looking for like
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Speaker 2: somebody to come in and completely mooch like. They want
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Speaker 2: you to come in and contribute. It sounds great. They
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Speaker 2: want you to come in to their state, to their
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Speaker 2: community and help make the community a better place through
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Speaker 2: your experiences, through your I don't know, job capabilities, your skills.
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Speaker 2: They want you to, you know, contribute back, like in
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Speaker 2: taxes and all these things. And they don't want you
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Speaker 2: to just come in and just mooch, just take the
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Speaker 2: ninety five hundred dollars and not contribute anything. It's What
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Speaker 2: a crazy idea, What a revolutionary thought of If you're
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Speaker 2: going to allow someone into where you live, you want
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Speaker 2: them to contribute and not just you know, just suck
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Speaker 2: it dry and just be there and then complaining and
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Speaker 2: living in hotels and mad at the food that you
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Speaker 2: get and for free? And what a concept? Could anybody
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Speaker 2: even comprehend something like this? What an idea? A new
25:48
Speaker 2: study found that people consistently prefer to negotiate with women,
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Speaker 2: not because they get better deals, but because the experience
25:57
Speaker 2: they say felt better. Women score higher trust, fairness, and communication,
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Speaker 2: which leaves their counterparts feeling more satisfied and open to
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Speaker 2: working together again. What's especially interesting is that this preference
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Speaker 2: showed up even when participants didn't know their partner's gender,
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Speaker 2: suggesting that it's tied to behavior and not just a
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Speaker 2: stereotype situation. In the end, men and women achieved similar
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Speaker 2: financial outcomes, but women had an edge in building relationships,
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Speaker 2: and that can lead to more repeat opportunities. So the takeaway,
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Speaker 2: how you negotiate, I guess, can matter just as much
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Speaker 2: as what you gain from it. It's a nice thought,
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Speaker 2: and certainly the tests of the study seems to show
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Speaker 2: that to be the case. That'll do it for this
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