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Top 3 people SWALLOWED ALIVE by the forest Missing 411 (Part 23) · Crime and Horror

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  Speaker 1: Hundreds of people go missing under baffling conditions in the
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  Speaker 1: woods of North America every year. I'm talking about people
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  Speaker 1: that are right in front of their loved ones and
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  Speaker 1: then in an instant they're just gone. Or in other cases,
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  Speaker 1: people disappear and then are found again in places that
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  Speaker 1: are seemingly impossible to get to. One former police detective
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  Speaker 1: named David Politis has investigated thousands of these strange disappearances,
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  Speaker 1: and he documents what he finds in his incredible book
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  Speaker 1: series called Missing four one one. Today we're going to
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  Speaker 1: take a look at three missing four one one cases
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  Speaker 1: that even amongst strange disappearances, he's rank as particularly bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: into today's stories. On June twenty third, nineteen sixty three,
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  Speaker 1: seven year old Bruce Farron, along with his aunt, uncle,
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  Speaker 1: and cousins, began the two mile hike into the Uinta
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  Speaker 1: Mountain Range in Utah. They were headed for Pyramid Lake,
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  Speaker 1: where they planned to do some camping for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days. After they arrived, they decided they would head
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  Speaker 1: down to the water to cool off. But right before
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  Speaker 1: they got in the water, Bruce told his aunt and
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  Speaker 1: uncle that he needed to use the bathroom, and so
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  Speaker 1: his family got into the water and Bruce walked over
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  Speaker 1: to a grove of trees and bushes to relieve himself.
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  Speaker 1: After a couple of minutes, Bruce did not come out
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  Speaker 1: of the woodline, and so his aunt and uncle started
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  Speaker 1: yelling for him. He didn't come out again, and so
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  Speaker 1: the uncle walked up and walked into the trees to
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  Speaker 1: go find his nephew, but he was not there, and
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  Speaker 1: so his uncle starts yelling for a nephew, but he's
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  Speaker 1: nowhere to be found, and so he yelled back for
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  Speaker 1: his wife and his kids to come help him look.
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  Speaker 1: And the next hour they searched the entire area yelling
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  Speaker 1: for Bruce, but there was no sign of him, so
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  Speaker 1: they contacted the authorities. That day, a huge search was
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  Speaker 1: launched for Bruce, but just like his family, nobody could
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  Speaker 1: find any trace of him. The following day, at four pm,
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  Speaker 1: Bruce had still not been located, and at this point
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  Speaker 1: his family is starting to lose hope. And it was
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  Speaker 1: around that time that a searcher who was several miles
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  Speaker 1: away from where Bruce had last been seen, was walking
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  Speaker 1: up this very steep trail heading up towards this cliff.
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  Speaker 1: And the searcher knew this cliff was five hundred feet
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  Speaker 1: and there was no way a child could climb up
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  Speaker 1: it or down it, and so he was about to
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  Speaker 1: turn around and go search somewhere else when he happened
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  Speaker 1: to look up and he saw a child walking down
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  Speaker 1: the trail towards him, and the child was Bruce, and
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  Speaker 1: Bruce was totally fine, albeit a little bit hungry. According
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  Speaker 1: to David Poliitis, all of these search and rescue models
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  Speaker 1: that predict where missing people will end up after they
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  Speaker 1: go missing say that boys aged seven to nine will
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  Speaker 1: be found within a seven point two mile radius ninety
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  Speaker 1: five percent of the time, and that distance could be
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  Speaker 1: covered over a week's time.
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  Speaker 2: In order for Bruce to be found.
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  Speaker 1: Where he was, he would have needed to cover twenty
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  Speaker 1: miles along a rugged ridge line before scaling down that
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  Speaker 1: five hundred foot cliff without the aid of climbing gear,
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  Speaker 1: and he did all that within thirty hours, a seemingly
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  Speaker 1: impossible task for a missing seven year old boy. When
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  Speaker 1: asked what happened, Bruce said he didn't remember. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: understand why or how he had gotten lost.
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  Speaker 2: In the first place.
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  Speaker 1: The only things he remembered were sleeping between two down
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  Speaker 1: logs and drinking from a waterfall, and many animals, including
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  Speaker 1: one that was so close to him at night that
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  Speaker 1: it would jump over him. Bruce was followed up with
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  Speaker 1: as he got older, but he never could regain the
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  Speaker 1: memory of what actually happened to him. Some have speculated
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  Speaker 1: that Bruce might have been abducted when he went to
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  Speaker 1: the bathroom, and that's the only way he was able
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  Speaker 1: to cover that grade of a distance in that amount
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  Speaker 1: of time, that his abductor basically physically moved him at
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  Speaker 1: least part of the way, and that perhaps his abductor
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  Speaker 1: was one of these animals he saw at night. In
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, Barbara Bullock was a fifty five
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  Speaker 1: year old, fit, happy, healthy woman living in Montana with
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  Speaker 1: her husband of fourteen years. In July of that year,
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  Speaker 1: her husband's cousin named Donna and Donna's boyfriend named Jim
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  Speaker 1: Ramaker came to stay with them for a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: On the evening of the seventeenth, Barbara offered to take
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  Speaker 1: the couple hiking with her the following morning at her
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  Speaker 1: favorite hiking spot, which was this totally unspoiled wilderness.
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  Speaker 2: Area on the border of Idaho.
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  Speaker 1: Barbara liked to hike a particular trail that brought her
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  Speaker 1: up to the Bear Creek overlook that had this incredible
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  Speaker 1: view down to the valley below. The couple happily agreed,
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  Speaker 1: but the following morning, Donna was not feeling so good,
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  Speaker 1: so she couldn't go on the hike, but her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: Jim was still feeling up for it and said I'd
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  Speaker 1: still like to go, and so he and Barbara wound
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  Speaker 1: up doing the hike on their own. At one point
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  Speaker 1: thirty that afternoon, Barbara's husband got a phone phone call
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  Speaker 1: from a police officer saying his wife was missing, and
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  Speaker 1: her husband just couldn't understand that Barbara hiked in that
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  Speaker 1: area all the time and she had been with Jim,
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  Speaker 1: so where could she have gone. But the police officer
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  Speaker 1: didn't have a great answer, and he just told him,
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  Speaker 1: you should come down here and hear Jim's explanation about
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  Speaker 1: what happened. When Barbara's husband arrived at the park, he
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  Speaker 1: rolled right up next to the officer and Jim.
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  Speaker 2: He got out, and Jim, who was in total shock,
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  Speaker 2: began to explain what happened.
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  Speaker 1: He and Barbara had made it up the trail successfully
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  Speaker 1: to the Bear Creek overlook. They'd stayed up there for
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  Speaker 1: about thirty minutes. They had a picnic and they were
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  Speaker 1: enjoying the scenery, and then at the end of it,
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  Speaker 1: they packed up and Barbara began walking down the very
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  Speaker 1: well marked trail and she was about twenty feet ahead
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  Speaker 1: of him when he decided to turn around and take
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  Speaker 1: one more look at the beautiful view.
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  Speaker 2: And he said he was looking at the.
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  Speaker 1: View for about forty seconds before he turned back around
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  Speaker 1: and Barbara was gone, and he.
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  Speaker 2: Hadn't heard her call out for help. He hadn't heard
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  Speaker 2: her fall. There was no sound of other people.
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  Speaker 1: There was no sound of other animals, there was no
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  Speaker 1: sound of any struggle whatsoever. It was just complete eerie silence.
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  Speaker 1: And as he took a few steps down the trail,
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  Speaker 1: he said, he started looking around, expecting to just see
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  Speaker 1: her behind a tree or something, but she was nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: And as he walked, he noticed that the ground underneath
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  Speaker 1: every step made a lot of noise because there was
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  Speaker 1: lots of loose rocks and shale all.
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  Speaker 2: Over the ground.
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  Speaker 1: And so he stopped, and he's listening really intently to
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  Speaker 1: see if he can hear where Barbara's gone, but he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't hear anything, and he's thinking, how could she have
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  Speaker 1: gotten away from me without me hearing the sound of
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  Speaker 1: her footsteps? And then he also began looking around and
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  Speaker 1: realized the area they were in, this trail, it was
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  Speaker 1: well trafficked, and so it was not very densely forested.
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  Speaker 1: You could actually see a pretty good distance in all
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  Speaker 1: directions because there was enough space between the trees. And
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  Speaker 1: so he's looking around, thinking, there's almost nowhere to hide,
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  Speaker 1: And so Jim started to feel scared and just began
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  Speaker 1: walking down the trail, expecting to run into her at
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  Speaker 1: any moment. But he didn't, and he kept turning around
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  Speaker 1: and looking behind trees and rocks, and he's thinking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is it's impossible.
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  Speaker 2: I should have seen her. I should see her. Now,
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  Speaker 2: where could she have possibly gone?
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  Speaker 1: And so he made his way all the way down
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  Speaker 1: the trail, the whole time turning around and looking for
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  Speaker 1: her and yelling for her, but never getting any feedback
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  Speaker 1: from her. And he got all the way to the
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  Speaker 1: parking lot and he saw her car was still parked
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  Speaker 1: in the parking lot.
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  Speaker 2: And he's looking around the parking lot. She's not out there.
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  Speaker 1: And he noticed a crew was working in the road,
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  Speaker 1: and he went up to them and he asked if
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  Speaker 1: they had seen her or anybody come out of that trail,
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  Speaker 1: and they said no. And so Jim's starting to panic,
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  Speaker 1: and he ran right back up the trail all the
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  Speaker 1: way back up to the Bear Creek overlook, hoping that
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  Speaker 1: along the way he would see some indication of where
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  Speaker 1: she went. But again, there was nothing on the trail.
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  Speaker 2: He gets up to the overlook, he's looking around, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Yelling for her. Nothing and so he ran right back
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  Speaker 1: down again and he contacted authorities. Over the next forty
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  Speaker 1: eight hours, a huge search was launched all around this
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  Speaker 1: area for Barbara. It included helicopters and huge search teams
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  Speaker 1: and highly trained snipping dogs, but nothing was found. There
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  Speaker 1: was no sign of foul play, There was no signs
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  Speaker 1: of an animal attack or some sort of abduction.
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  Speaker 2: There was nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Not even her scent was found, despite the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the dog's handlers knew exactly where her last position was,
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  Speaker 1: but none of the dogs picked it up, which is
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  Speaker 1: highly unusual. It really was like she had vanished into
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  Speaker 1: thin air. At first, Jim was obviously a suspect because
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  Speaker 1: he was the last person to see Barbara alive, but
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  Speaker 1: he never changed his story, despite how far fetched it seemed,
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  Speaker 1: and he was very cooperative and was very quick to
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  Speaker 1: offer to take a polygraph test, and so the police
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  Speaker 1: ruled him out as a suspect, and shortly after the
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  Speaker 1: search started they shut it down because there was no
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  Speaker 1: sign of this woman anywhere, and so unfortunately, her family
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  Speaker 1: had to face the awful reality of getting zero closure.
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  Speaker 1: She was just gone and nobody knew what happened, And unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: to this day, we still don't know what happened, because
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  Speaker 1: no trace of Barbara has ever been found. In nineteen ten,
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  Speaker 1: twenty three year Oldville Tuttle worked as a locomotive engineer
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  Speaker 1: in Whitehall, Montana. While he loved his job and loved cars,
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  Speaker 1: his real passion was hunting. His friends would describe him
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  Speaker 1: as being a fearless hunter, a crack shot, and very
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  Speaker 1: cool under pressure.
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  Speaker 2: In October of that year.
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  Speaker 1: Orville, along with his younger brother and his cousin, headed
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  Speaker 1: off to a river valley just outside of Yellowstone National
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  Speaker 1: Park to do some hunting.
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  Speaker 2: When they got there, they made their way into the forest.
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  Speaker 1: They found a decent clearing, they brushed off some snow,
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  Speaker 1: and they set up their campsite. They stayed up for
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  Speaker 1: a bit around the campfire that night, but everybody went
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  Speaker 1: to bed early the following morning. Orville was the first
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  Speaker 1: one to wake up, and while he was outside of
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  Speaker 1: the campsite, he noticed some elk tracks that had passed
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  Speaker 1: by in the night, and so he woke up his
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  Speaker 1: brother and cousin and told them he was going to
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  Speaker 1: go and track this animal for no longer than about
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  Speaker 1: an hour. The two men said that was fine. They
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  Speaker 1: knew Orville was a very accomplished outdoorsman, and so they
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  Speaker 1: weren't worried about him. An hour later, the brother and
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  Speaker 1: the cousin were now awake and they were sitting around
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  Speaker 1: the fire waiting for Orville to return.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: The men waited another hour, and another hour and another hour,
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  Speaker 1: and still Orville never showed up. And this whole time
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  Speaker 1: the men are considering should we go out and go
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  Speaker 1: looking for him? And every time they'd stand up to
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  Speaker 1: go begin their search, they'd say, you know what, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure he's fine. We're overreacting, and they'd sit back down again.
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  Speaker 1: But by nightfall, when they still had not seen Orville
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  Speaker 1: or heard from him, the pair was starting to get
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  Speaker 1: really nervous, and so they decided they would go to bed,
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  Speaker 1: and Orville was found to turn up in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the night. Early the next morning, the two men
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  Speaker 1: got up hoping to see Orville, but he had not returned,
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  Speaker 1: and so the two men left the forest. They got
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  Speaker 1: two more family members to come back with them, and
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  Speaker 1: then the four of them began a search for Orville,
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  Speaker 1: and very quickly they found Orville's tracks leading out of
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  Speaker 1: the camp, meandering their way through this very thick forest
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  Speaker 1: and through all the snow, all the way down to
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  Speaker 1: this very shallow river that at its deepest point was
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  Speaker 1: no higher than your ankle. Orville's tracks stopped at the
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  Speaker 1: edge of this river and continued for three miles walking
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  Speaker 1: away from the campsite, right alongside this river, until they
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  Speaker 1: stopped in this little clearing in the snow, where there
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  Speaker 1: was a very small campfire set up, but the logs
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  Speaker 1: and the kindling in the campfire had not been burned,
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  Speaker 1: and so the search party figured that Orville when he
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  Speaker 1: got here must have had wet matches or something because
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  Speaker 1: he couldn't get the fire going. And then from the campfire,
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  Speaker 1: they continued to follow Orville's tracks a little bit farther
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  Speaker 1: down the river until they turned and walked directly into
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  Speaker 1: this very shallow river. And then from there the search
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  Speaker 1: party looked for miles and miles and miles downstream and upstream,
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  Speaker 1: and they never found any tracks leaving the river, even
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  Speaker 1: though alongside the entire river on both sides was plenty
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  Speaker 1: of snow, so anybody who walked into the river and
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  Speaker 1: then walked out again would leave tracks.
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  Speaker 2: But there were no more tracks.
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  Speaker 1: As it started to get dark and they still had
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  Speaker 1: not found any sign of Orville, one of the men
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  Speaker 1: left the forest and contacted authorities who.
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  Speaker 2: Launched a formal search.
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  Speaker 1: The Sheriff's department, along with hundreds of volunteers, descended into
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  Speaker 1: this area where Orville got lost, and they started by
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  Speaker 1: searching even farther downstream and upstream of this river to
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  Speaker 1: see if they could find where Orville stepped out of
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  Speaker 1: the river. But they too couldn't find any tracks, and
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  Speaker 1: so for a couple of days they searched this river,
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  Speaker 1: then the surrounding forest, but there was just no sign
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  Speaker 1: of Orville. Then on the third evening of the search,
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  Speaker 1: one of the searchers was up in the mountains in
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  Speaker 1: an area that was relatively close to the last area
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  Speaker 1: where Orville had tracks in the snow, and the searcher
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  Speaker 1: saw there was a little campfire that had been set
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  Speaker 1: up in the middle of nowhere. He walked up to
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  Speaker 1: it and he saw it had been recently extinguished, it
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  Speaker 1: was still warm, and next to this fire was a
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  Speaker 1: pair of boots, but there was no person anywhere in
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  Speaker 1: the vicinity. And then the searcher noticed there were tracks
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  Speaker 1: leaving this campfire, and these tracks were made with bare feet,
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  Speaker 1: and so the searcher just began following these tracks, and
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  Speaker 1: so the searcher went up a mountain. He went down
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  Speaker 1: the other side, down into this deep ravine, and then
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  Speaker 1: he stopped because he's looking straight ahead of him and
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  Speaker 1: it's another mountain going straight up, and that's where the
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  Speaker 1: tracks continued to go, and it's very thickly forested, and
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  Speaker 1: it starting to get dark, and so he's thinking to himself,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is it a good idea to just continue
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  Speaker 1: walking on my own? Or should I go back and
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  Speaker 1: get some help. And so as he's weighing out what
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  Speaker 1: he should do next, he catches movement out of his
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  Speaker 1: peripheral vision and he kind of glances up into the
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  Speaker 1: mountain right ahead of him, and he sees this dark
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  Speaker 1: figure kind of slowly moving up the mountain quite a
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  Speaker 1: ways away from him, but from his perspective, even though
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a good view, it looks like a man.
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  Speaker 1: And so if it's a man walking up this hill,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably the same guy that left that campfire and
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  Speaker 1: therefore is leaving these barefoot tracks.
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  Speaker 2: Up this mountain.
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  Speaker 1: And so the searcher thinks, that's gotta be Orville. Something's
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  Speaker 1: wrong with him, you know, who knows what's going on
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  Speaker 1: with him? But I got to get his attention and
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  Speaker 1: so the searcher yells out to this guy to try
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  Speaker 1: to get him to stop, but even though he was
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  Speaker 1: clearly an earshot, this guy just did not stop moving.
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  Speaker 1: He just methodically continued moving up the mountain. And so
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  Speaker 1: the searcher is confused at why this person wouldn't stop,
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  Speaker 1: and so he pulls out his pistol and fires three
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  Speaker 1: shots into the air, which is like the universal stop
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing and turn around. But again, this figure,
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  Speaker 1: this person, this guy didn't stop. He didn't react, no flinching.
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  Speaker 1: They just kept moving up and over the top of
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  Speaker 1: the mountain and out of sight. And so now the
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  Speaker 1: searchers thinking to himself, you know what did I just see?
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  Speaker 1: Who is that? What were they doing out here? And
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  Speaker 1: he's thinking, you know what, it's too dark. I can't
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  Speaker 1: just continue up this mountain towards whoever this is.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta go back.
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  Speaker 1: And so the searcher marked where he was turned around,
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  Speaker 1: and he ran back to the search party and he
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  Speaker 1: told them what he had seen, and they said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well we'll go looking tomorrow. And so the next morning early,
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  Speaker 1: this huge search party gets to that ravine where he
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  Speaker 1: marked that spot.
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  Speaker 2: But at this point, so much snow had fallen.
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  Speaker 1: All the tracks of this barefoot man who was walking
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  Speaker 1: around the night before have all been covered up, and
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  Speaker 1: so despite doing a very extensive search with a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people in that area, they couldn't find any trace
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  Speaker 1: of the shoeless man. Many believe the shoeless man was Orville,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact the local newspapers.
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  Speaker 2: At the time speculated as much.
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  Speaker 1: But if it was Orville, why didn't he turn around
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  Speaker 1: when someone was yelling his name, or when multiple gunshots
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  Speaker 1: were fired into the air, And where was he going
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  Speaker 1: walking barefoot in a snowstorm in the middle of the night.
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  Speaker 1: Others have speculated this was not Orville, that it was
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  Speaker 1: some other person or some other creature lurking around the
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  Speaker 1: woods at night, and that perhaps they had something to
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  Speaker 1: do with whatever happened to Orville. But regardless of who
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  Speaker 1: or what that figure was, no one ever found any
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  Speaker 1: traces of Orville or the shoeless man ever.
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  Speaker 2: Again, so that's going to do it, guys.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to learn more about the Missing four
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  Speaker 1: the Missing four one one books as well as check
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  Speaker 1: out their documentaries.
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  Speaker 2: And all this information is linked in the description below.
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  Speaker 2: It's linked in the description below.
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