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The Funniest Alternative Music Awards · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: He's the babies.
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  Speaker 2: The number.
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  Speaker 1: To become the child. Today, we've got our friends Meg
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  Speaker 1: and Lindsay with us for the umpteenth time. I have
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  Speaker 1: no idea how many times at this point. Certainly yeah,
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  Speaker 1: certainly not enough, certainly not enough, but we all have
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  Speaker 1: you back. These are the kind of episodes that I
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  Speaker 1: really truly look forward to. And whenever Colin and I
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  Speaker 1: are like, let's do like a fun kind of game episode, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you two are like the first people that come to mind,
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  Speaker 1: because not only are you great to have on the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: but like and because I mean, obviously you guys are
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  Speaker 1: a who, but like your music knowledge is incredible, and
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  Speaker 1: you kind of have like all the music knowledge that
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  Speaker 1: I would like think that the typical audience or uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the typical listener of this podcast would also have.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, you all have like the emo knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: you have, the metal knowledge, you have, the rock knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: you have the christianology, you have the secular knowledge. Like
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  Speaker 1: you just kind of have all the knowledge about music
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  Speaker 1: that it would that would hope for one to have
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  Speaker 1: if if they're a listener of this podcast. So you
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  Speaker 1: just like you kind of fit right into the whole,
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  Speaker 1: like the whole market of what I'm what at least
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  Speaker 1: I'm hoping for in this in this podcast. So it's
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  Speaker 1: it's great to have you all back.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what Mason does. He just talks about marketability
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  Speaker 3: and ladies. He's just saying that you are marketable. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that's my job, Mason. They're more than
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  Speaker 3: pretty phases, all right.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. They've got skills as well.
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  Speaker 4: Not for me, Not true, Lindsay.
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  Speaker 2: My friend was reading through the text from earlier today
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  Speaker 2: and I could hear him audibly laugh from the other
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  Speaker 2: room of you, saying, I will not have the joy
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  Speaker 2: of the Lord in my heart.
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  Speaker 4: It is true, is the truth.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. There was like almost crash out happening
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  Speaker 1: earlier this afternoon. I know they were discussing this episode.
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  Speaker 4: Because I was going by we haven't gotten into this yet,
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  Speaker 4: but I was going by Grammy's rules, which makes a
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  Speaker 4: lot of sense. It does because I have a vast
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  Speaker 4: amount of music knowledge.
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  Speaker 3: So you were texting pretty frantically, and it scared me
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  Speaker 3: because it was like one after another. I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I need to check my phone, something's happening.
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  Speaker 4: I got Bloodbirk done today I went to Costco today.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not my mental best.
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  Speaker 3: I feel you, I feel you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Lindsay, you sort of are already eluding it, alluding
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  Speaker 1: to it. But today's episode, we are going to do
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  Speaker 1: a sort of game type of episode that I'm excited about. Basically,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to create kind of our own unique, fun
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  Speaker 1: Grammy Grammy categories. Right. So, the Grammys they have like
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  Speaker 1: best Rock Album, Best Rock Band or whatever, right Like,
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  Speaker 1: they have their you know, best Pop Performance, right Like,
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  Speaker 1: they have their own like categories that are very like
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  Speaker 1: straight and narrow, whatever kind of categories, and they do
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  Speaker 1: them every year, right, And some of our favorite artists
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  Speaker 1: sometimes win a Grammy or get nominated for Grammy. Right,
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is a fun like fun category,
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  Speaker 1: so like categories that are kind of silly, a little ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And then we're gonna each so one person will nominate
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  Speaker 1: or sorry, let me go back, one person will create
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  Speaker 1: a category. They will name a category that will be
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  Speaker 1: fun or silly or whatever, and then each one of
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  Speaker 1: us then will think of a nominee that we want
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  Speaker 1: to nominate to that category, and then we will give
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  Speaker 1: our reasons for that nomination. And then we will figure
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  Speaker 1: out who should actually win that award that category.
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  Speaker 3: I have one caveat, if possible. I think that when
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  Speaker 3: you make or when you like suggest the category, that
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  Speaker 3: you have to pick last.
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  Speaker 5: Mmm.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. I'm fine with them. Yeah, cool, that's fine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that works for me. So the reason maybe maybe to
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  Speaker 1: give some contexts. The reason why I came up with
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  Speaker 1: this is a few weeks ago, I was watching this
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  Speaker 1: NBA YouTube video and so, Meg, you might actually really
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  Speaker 1: like this. There's a very famous YouTube NBA YouTube guy
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  Speaker 1: named Jimmy Hyroller and he does these incredible like NBA
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  Speaker 1: analysis kind of videos. But he did this one that
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  Speaker 1: recently that came out a few weeks ago, and I
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  Speaker 1: was literally watching it like during lunch, and then I
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  Speaker 1: had this idea of like, oh, there's a black sheep
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  Speaker 1: version of this that we could do. And immediately I
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  Speaker 1: thought of YouTube as like two people that could totally
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  Speaker 1: just like write, you know, like run with us. So
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  Speaker 1: the basically his idea was right, like, we're at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the NBA season and all of these awards
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  Speaker 1: were about to give it, you know, given out, so
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  Speaker 1: MVP Best Defensive Player of the Year, right, all of
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  Speaker 1: these these awards, you know, most Improved Player, all these
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  Speaker 1: awards were gonna be coming out, and he had this
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  Speaker 1: idea of let's do a video of his own categories
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  Speaker 1: that he's creating, and then he would he basically gave
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  Speaker 1: out these nominees that could be nominated for this category,
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  Speaker 1: this unique category they came up with, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: he would award somebody. So for example, he had a
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  Speaker 1: category of all the all offense, no defense. So this
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  Speaker 1: was a category where he looked at the analysis of
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  Speaker 1: all these players over this last season in the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: who literally had like some of the best offensive seasons
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  Speaker 1: we've ever seen and also had some of the worst
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  Speaker 1: defensive seasons. So they were like ninety eight percent tile
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  Speaker 1: on offense, but they were like two percent tile on defense,
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  Speaker 1: Like they were really good at offense and really bad
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  Speaker 1: at defense. And then he like laid out a few
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  Speaker 1: nominees and then gave it an award for whoever won
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  Speaker 1: that award. Right, So I was like, these are great
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  Speaker 1: categories that he's coming up with. I love this for
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. There's got to be like a a music
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  Speaker 1: version of that that we could all come up with.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. So we're gonna come
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  Speaker 1: up with these fun, interesting, uh maybe even silly categories
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  Speaker 1: and then again we're going to then nominate different artists
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  Speaker 1: or bands or albums or songs or whatever it ends
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  Speaker 1: up being, and then we'll vote and figure out, you
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  Speaker 1: know what what what we'll win each one of these categories,
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  Speaker 1: each one of these awards. So that's kind of how
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna go. So each category is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a totally weird, unique thing that we'll we'll see and
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  Speaker 1: we'll run with it. So Colin, do you want to
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  Speaker 1: do like a little like, do we want to snake
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  Speaker 1: this at all? Or how do we want to do this?
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  Speaker 1: Because each one of us is going to do two,
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  Speaker 1: so there's gonna be eight total rounds.
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  Speaker 3: I think we should just jump in wherever we want.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we need to snake it today.
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  Speaker 1: That's fine too, that's fair. Okay, Well, does anyone have
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  Speaker 1: a good one to start with? I I like my
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  Speaker 1: two categories, so I'm fine with starting. But if if
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  Speaker 1: one of you want to start out with a really
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  Speaker 1: great category or award, hear it, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think you should start Mason, because the examples you gave us.
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  Speaker 1: We're pretty good, they're pretty good on you're.
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  Speaker 5: Using and they're really really good. So I think we
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  Speaker 5: should start with one of yours.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll start out with my like the one
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  Speaker 1: that I like even less, and then i'll go the
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  Speaker 1: next round. When I go up, I'll do the one
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  Speaker 1: that I like more. So for the category of And
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how the Grammys does this, Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: you said that you watch the Grammys live, forget like
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  Speaker 1: for the the the award for whatever however they do it.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, the award for best long band Names, Best
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  Speaker 1: long band names. So there are plenty of really good
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  Speaker 1: bands out there that have really good band names. Now
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  Speaker 1: this is not necessarily what band is the best that
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  Speaker 1: has a long name. It's what long band name is good.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter about whether or not they actually make
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  Speaker 1: good music. It's about do we like The quality is
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  Speaker 1: actually in the band name itself, not in the band.
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  Speaker 1: So think about the bands. Now, I think I'm nominating last.
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine one of you is probably going to
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  Speaker 1: take the band that I want to nominate, But uh,
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  Speaker 1: because there's a really good one, and that's fine. There
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  Speaker 1: is but long band names. Who wants to start first
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  Speaker 1: for a good long band name.
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  Speaker 5: I would like to for two reasons.
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  Speaker 2: One, when you first brought up this category, I was
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  Speaker 2: with some friends and read it out loud. I actually
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  Speaker 2: don't know if but when you texted us it was
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  Speaker 2: I was with friends, but I ended up reading this
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  Speaker 2: out loud and I asked them to guess what band
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  Speaker 2: I would nominate, and when one person did get it.
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  Speaker 2: The second reason is I'm not from I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: if you guys are familiar with the podcast Hard Loore, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well rest in peace? What was his name that just
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  Speaker 1: died recently? Boh yeah Peaceoh.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, yeah, thanks Mason.
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  Speaker 2: And they were doing for one of the Hard Loore
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  Speaker 2: like live episodes, they were doing a Wheel of Fortune game.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know in Will of Fortune there's all
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  Speaker 2: the all the letters right that are on the screen
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  Speaker 2: about for what the answer is right, the phrase or
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  Speaker 2: the word or whatever it is. And so I believe
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  Speaker 2: that the I think the category was like a long
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  Speaker 2: band name.
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  Speaker 5: And I just looked at all of the spaces on the.
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  Speaker 1: Screen without any letters.
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  Speaker 5: Any letters, and I said out loud.
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  Speaker 2: My friend could attest to this because he was there
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  Speaker 2: I said, the world is a beautiful place and I'm
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  Speaker 2: no longer afraid to die. So I that is a
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  Speaker 2: band that they have some really good songs.
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  Speaker 5: They're not my favorite band in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Their name frustrates me to know ed, but as far
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  Speaker 2: as long band names go, that's it for me.
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  Speaker 1: That's my nomination, you know, you know, Okay, So that
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  Speaker 1: was the nomination I was going to go with. I've
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  Speaker 1: got some other ways. Butt their their name is so
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  Speaker 1: long that even the acronym is it's hard. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: to memorized. Like I can't even memorize the acronym well
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  Speaker 1: enough because they do go by an acronym every now
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  Speaker 1: and then, and even that is too long. That's how
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  Speaker 1: long their actual band name is.
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  Speaker 4: Yep yep.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Meg, I got to say their album that came
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  Speaker 1: out last year one of my favorite albums, certainly probably
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  Speaker 1: my favorite album of last year. It is so different
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  Speaker 1: than anything else they've ever done, and you, in particular, Meg,
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  Speaker 1: would love it if you haven't listened to it yet.
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  Speaker 5: Really it's legit, like it's legit.
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  Speaker 1: Hardcore stuff, like really good hardcore. And then they also
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  Speaker 1: have like some of that really interesting indie emo stuff.
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  Speaker 1: That they've always done. Okay, yeah, it's out.
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  Speaker 5: Of this so okay, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: Excited now cool, So maybe I'll even I'll like them
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  Speaker 2: even more than just the fact that they have an
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  Speaker 2: incredibly long banding.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a good banding and like it's a great
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  Speaker 1: It's like, not only is it like obnoxiously long, which
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  Speaker 1: is the whole point of this category, but it's like
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  Speaker 1: it's like the world is a beautiful place and I'm
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  Speaker 1: no longer afraid to die, Like it's a beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: It's a phrase. It's like a mantra almost.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it totally? Is it totally?
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  Speaker 4: Is?
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah, it feels it
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  Speaker 3: does feel like a mantra. I like the way you
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  Speaker 3: put that meg. That's that's right up the correct alley.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go next and I'll pick what I think is
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  Speaker 3: maybe the next most obvious example, King Gizzard and Drink.
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  Speaker 4: I forgot about that band.
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  Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: How can you forget about them whenever? They take up
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  Speaker 4: like so much real estate in every single record store ever.
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  Speaker 1: It's just because they literally released like two albums a year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you, I think you guys are
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  Speaker 2: the ones that even told me that I saw and
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  Speaker 2: another friend of mine I remember seeing that band name
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  Speaker 2: and being like, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Not alone they truly maybe I'm missing out And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like I don't know if they're in I
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  Speaker 1: don't listen to them enough to know this, but like
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  Speaker 1: my sense is there. I don't even know if their
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  Speaker 1: music sounds like jam Ban, but like that's the world
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  Speaker 1: in my mind that they occupy because they have, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the whole point of like jam Ban culture
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  Speaker 1: to me is that there's cult following with jam bands,
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  Speaker 1: and there's something about King Gizzard where I have honestly,
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  Speaker 1: like I think there's maybe like two King Gizzard people
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  Speaker 1: in my life that I've ever met that are you know,
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  Speaker 1: like they're they're they're a fan, Like there's just so
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  Speaker 1: few of them, but yet they they are like incredibly popular,
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  Speaker 1: like they I remember when I was living now in Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: they played like three shows in a row at Red Rocks,
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  Speaker 1: Like they sold out like three shows in a row
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  Speaker 1: Red Rock, Like that's how ridiculous their cult following is.
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  Speaker 1: And yet none of us have probably ever ran into
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  Speaker 1: a King Gizzard fan, like they're the kind of bands
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  Speaker 1: that there aren't a lot of them, but the few
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  Speaker 1: that there are, they're probably just graveling around with the
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  Speaker 1: band like it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I've been working Go ahead, Lindsay, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 4: I've been working on a satirical piece and it's like
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  Speaker 4: very similar long name. The name of it is I'm
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  Speaker 4: a dad with a weed pen on the sidelines, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm here to break the culture of toxic soccer parents
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like I feel like King Gizzard is
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  Speaker 4: right in that guy's Spotify.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I have a question that maybe Lindsay can answer based
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  Speaker 2: on a podcast she was on with you guys that
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  Speaker 2: I listened to because I love all of you.
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  Speaker 5: I was not on the podcast, but I listened to it.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that. I know you didn't.
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  Speaker 2: It made me very happy, she literally did, because she's
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  Speaker 2: talking about pet, which I'm forever grateful. But I have
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  Speaker 2: a question, would you say, Lindsay or anyone that people who.
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  Speaker 5: Would be fans of King Gizzard would also be fans
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  Speaker 5: of Geese?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I literally was just thinking about this.
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  Speaker 5: I was just thinking, Okay, I feel so validated.
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  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about this. I'm like to me,
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  Speaker 1: there's like this like ven diagram that's actually closer to
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  Speaker 1: a circle. That's Geese and like King Gizzard people, And
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  Speaker 1: maybe Geese is just like the gen Z version of
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  Speaker 1: King Gizzard. Maybe that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I think King Gizzard is more like younger millennials.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think young to mid like millennial.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so instead of bot farming, they're just
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  Speaker 4: putting out so much input that they're like, maybe we
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  Speaker 4: can also flood not the internet. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's a good point. That's what's for sure for sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, lindsay, what's the what's your long man named nomination?
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  Speaker 4: Mine is a throwback and it's a band that I despise.
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  Speaker 4: So they have probably been canceled like five times since,
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  Speaker 4: so if they have been, this is not me praising
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  Speaker 4: them is not a standby the number twelve looks like.
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  Speaker 2: You good throwback, Lindsay.
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  Speaker 5: Good callback.
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  Speaker 1: We would just interviewed somebody that mentioned them as like
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  Speaker 1: one of their albums was like really influential.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, storry to that person.
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  Speaker 1: Have they truly like is there like a like they've
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  Speaker 1: got a thing where they've gotten in trouble?
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  Speaker 4: No, this is just they were from that era.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I knew she was going to say that, Lindsay,
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  Speaker 2: I knew you were going to just the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they're from that era.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, Tackles. I'm like, you've done.
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  Speaker 1: We're not actually making any accusations that they've done.
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  Speaker 5: No, we're not.
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  Speaker 3: Probably, We're just we're just putting the car ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the horse because you know, sooner or later.
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  Speaker 4: It's actually, yeah, it's I was thinking about the other
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  Speaker 4: day because I was talking about a different band that
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  Speaker 4: could have also fallen into this category. And I'm sorry
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  Speaker 4: to do this. Cute is what we aim for. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: like Tethered, you've got canceled. But like I always like
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  Speaker 4: associate all those bands and like, yeah, like.
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  Speaker 5: Number twelve looks like you was harder than kids.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean they were truly
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  Speaker 1: a mathcore band.
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  Speaker 4: And honestly, this was a point where I hadn't really
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  Speaker 4: gotten into like any scream or anything like that. So
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  Speaker 4: it could just be that I wasn't ready for it
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  Speaker 4: in my life that like I was a really edgy
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  Speaker 4: teenager and I would always say, it's more like the
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  Speaker 4: number twelve sounds like spew And I thought I was
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  Speaker 4: really like good with that one.
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  Speaker 3: But it sounds like we always talked about these hearts.
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  Speaker 3: We called them these parts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, Oh those are they?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? I will say that what's funny about the number
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  Speaker 1: The number twelve looks like you. I actually, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a really great band theme, to be honest, It's
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  Speaker 1: just like it's an interesting sounding name.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But because they were mathcore and because of their band name,
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  Speaker 1: I just always mixed them up with I Wrestle the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Bear Once, just because of like the same kind of
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: music for the most part, like very mathy kind of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you know, hardcore type of music, and the fact that
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: they have this like weird long name. I just always
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: always confused the two.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: I could see that.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Even though the names sound.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, Yeah, just the fact that they're super long,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: and I knew that like those two names were associated
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: with that kind of music that I just kind of
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: in my mind, I just thought they were the same band.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I I feel, Yeah, But I think what I think
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: what an astute listener to this podcast would maybe say,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: is so does I Wrestle the Bear once and me
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: without you remind you of the same band or made
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: you think of the same band, since they smashed words together.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: And because I knew wrestle, I wrestled the bear once
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: was like a mathcore band, as you know, the number twelve.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I was just the genre and the name like like
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: those that combination together is like why I sort of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: always confused the two.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: That's fun.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: That's fun, so that's a that's a great thing. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: will probably end up losing this category. But got another
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: band name very long. It's got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: nine ten ten words in the band name, so not
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: quite as many as the World's Beautiful Place. And I'm
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: no longer afraid to die, but up there this is
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: a band. I don't know, Colin, if you know of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: this band at all. I've actually listened to this band
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: since two thousand and four because they were in a
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: MLB baseball game called MVP Baseball one of the best
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: baseball actually one of the best sports video games of
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: all time, by the way, And that's not just me
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: saying that. That's like video game critics would often say
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: MVP Baseball two thousand and five is one of the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: best baseball video games of all time, or not even
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: just baseball sports video games of all time. They had
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a ton of like post punk bands that in that like.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Sound always did a good job with like finding good
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: post punk.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Post they had like they had like the bravery, they
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: had the strokes in this Oh yeah, they had a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: really interesting soundtrack. It's probably why like so many baseball,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: like so many millennial baseball fans are like, you know, hipsters,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like you're probably probably because of m VP Baseball. They
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: had all of these hipstery, you know, post punk fans
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that were you know, was so formative in this huge
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: video game. Anyway, one of the songs in that video
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: game I loved. It's kind of this space rock sound
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: from two thousand and four too and five. And the band
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is called dot dot Dot so like period period period,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and you will know us by the trail of I know, Okay, great,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I just always so they're an interesting band because to me,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: they actually have a very similar trajectory is like the
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Appleseed Cast, because they start out very like pop like
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: punk kind of like a hardcore punk sound, and and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: then throughoute their discography, like they kind of become more
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of this like space rock post rock kind of sound,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: which is very similar to what apples Cast did. But Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: they're like super respected in the like kind of post
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: punk alternative music world. They're just like incredible. I think
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: they're a great band, and they just have like a
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: ridiculously long band.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: You know what. I think that that band name reminds
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: me of. It's uh, it's like the kind of slogan
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: you would see on like an edgy cross country high
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: school T shirt.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Speaking of getting bands confused, I used to get that band.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: You know, you will notice by the trail of Dead
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and Murdered by Death confused just because.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's Death.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Very different band, yeah, very different bands.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm good to know that you like you both
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: at least have heard of them. But yeah, they have
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a song. I'm totally blanking on it. I've got it
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: probably saved in Spotify. But there's a song in one
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of their like it was like their two thousand and
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: four album or whatever. Very space rock. But that's the
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: song that's on MVP Baseball two thousand and five. It's
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: such a good song. It's super space rocky. It's it's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: just interesting. They're an interesting sounding band, and I feel
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: like they're kind of criminally underrated in that world.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably because of their long band name that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Was probably probably I think they're a California too, Like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: aren't they from California? Meg? I think, I don't know.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I think similar to Mason and even you, like I
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: knew about them. I heard a couple of songs and
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: then they just went out into the ether and just
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: like went out from my brain.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: No, actually they're from Austin, Texas. It was totally wrong.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: For some reason, I just associated them with the California
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: very different than caln not at all. Yeah, anyway, cool,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: all right, well, all right, so our nominees are a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: world's beautiful place, no longer afraid to die? Colum, what
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was your nominee?
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. Such what a ton coaster, lindsay,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: yours is the number twelve? Looks like you right?
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Yes? And I have checked. There are no accusations against
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: this band.
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, sorry, yeh, yeah, I love it.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna get sued and we don't we like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: we don't make enough money to get sued to get sued.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: And then my nomination is and you will know us
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: by the trail of dead. Okay again, the the category
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: is not about how each how good each one of
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: these bands are, but by how good their long band
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: name is. So I have even though I had my
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: own nomination, I do think I will refer to the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: World's Beautiful Place because it's such a good band name.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And not only is a good band name, it's the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: longest of the ones that we've picked.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think I have to agree. Okay, all right,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: but I think my I think my mind might be
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: maybe swayed a bit by the fact that I do
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: like the artist as well. So maybe maybe do we
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: need to make a do we need to make like
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: a stipulation saying we have to completely remove all.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: As best as you can, as best as you can,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: try to eliminate as much bias as possible. Okay, but
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: but I still put objectively, objectively, it's the longest name.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Like I even if you look up like long band names,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I bet like from an official standpoint, like if there
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: was actually againness world record, they probably would win that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fact it's such a long band name.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: There's a lot longer band names. Yeah, So I looked
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: this up because I was like trying to like find
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: like the craziest long band names, and there is some
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: crazy ones, especially in the metal genre.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: All Right, while you're doing that, all right, at least
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: three to one, so it is going to win. But Lindsay,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: did you have a dissenting opinion or an affirming opinion?
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I I affirm, if firm this decision. I think that
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: in the chat I was, I made a joke that,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: like they have such a long band name that you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: can't even fit on their merch, Like their merch is just.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: It just it just looks like it looks like that
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: one Explosions in the Sky album cover. Yeah, that's the.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: Place again.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Apparently there's an emo band called I wrote, I wrote,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I wrote about cannibalism in your yearbook.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a good that's a good.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a band name that Lindsay would have
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: come up with. Like that's like that's her like that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like the fantasy band. Like if if Lindsay were to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like have made like an emo movie, that would have
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: been like the band name.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, pause, you would have pause. Did you know that?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: And you will know us by the Trail of the
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Dead is not the full band name, really this is
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: the full band name, The Clouds that Fondle, jagged crags
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and raging storms conspire and you will know us by
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: the Trail of Dead. Where did you find that on
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: the interwebs? Of course?
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: So that's what the dot dot dot was missing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I mean it's well, I guess, well, now I'm the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: fault winner. So because that's definitely longer than the world
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: is ful place.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, we made our decision, no take back.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry forgive me Lindsay speaking of all right,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: all right, I have the next category then, just to
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: golf what Lindsay said. This category is the most unabashedly masculine.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Act, most masculine, abashedly masculine, like healthy masculinity or that's
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: toxic for sure.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, okay, I mean by act you mean yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean band and so like this is
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: this is the band that that that drinks regular or
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Diesel Monster all the time on stage. Uh, they're they're
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: probably talking very very terrible things about women or what
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: they would like to do to women. And yeah, they're
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: just terrible people. So just call them out, all right, yeah,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, I yeah, they need.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: To be Okay, that's a great categry.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Are just are we allowed to like just like speak
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: from experience personal experience.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Here name ye.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: The number twelve looks like you from my own Mason.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: I gotta give this one some thought.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: This is the problem with us not knowing categories ahead
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: of times New Masons and so it's easy and so
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: now we have to do all this on the spot,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and it's so stressful because I'm afraid I'm gonna give
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: an answer and then later, like tonight at like eleven PM,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: when I'm laying about I'm gonna be.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: Like, damn it.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: That's why you don't go into this prepared. I did
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: not have something prepared earlier. And that's okay. We're just
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: bubble under the dark.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what I'm gonna pick, by the way,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: because I just came up with it on the spot.
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, that makes me feel much better.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That's okay. Here's what I'm finding to be challenging as
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like sifting through the possible bands is I'm trying
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: my best to think, Okay, there's a difference between the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: band and their fans. So like there are fan categories
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: where the fans are probably worse and misogynistic than the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: band itself is, and then vice versa. There might be
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: bands where like the bands themselves are way worse than
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: their fans. So that's like the sort of sifting through
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: that I'm doing right now.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: That does make sense.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know that was a pretty good band all,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: but that's that's what I'm doing in my head right now.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: Very interesting. But their fans are like.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that literally is exactly why I like I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was thinking through. That difference is like the fans suck
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: probably way more than the band itself does.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Hmmm, oh man, what are bands?
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Wait, Linda, did you say you have one?
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I think I do. And I'm really sorry to do
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: this because this might get some people, probably no one,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: you're upset, but like it might be Red Hot Chili Peppers.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Why do you Why do you think I'm curious?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I remember we talked about them last time, about
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: how shitty they we did.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: And Lindsay would like to cancel them.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: I think everybody but the guitarist has a credible accusation
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: against them. So Anthony Keatis, like his book Scar Tissue,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: that is.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gross. I read those parts and I was like,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: jaw on the floor. I cannot believe that, first of all,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: he's admitting to this, second of all, that this happened.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: They have a song. It's like she's only eighteen. So
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: they're like so many like they have so many creepy lyrics.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Anthony Keatis, we have seen the life. He did not
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: wear a shirt for the entire thing. And he's like
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: in his fifties, and I think that he's dating like
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: a teenager or like a nineteen year old. I think, like,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: so there's still a team there, but probably in his
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: sixties actually, And I would also say a lot of
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: his fan base is kind of there too, So this
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: is just this might be my contribution.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: So I have a question.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thanks so much. I just associate them
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: with sponsor.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I have a question for Colon. I guess and you too,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Lindsay you're talking about his book. There's like gross stuff
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: in the book that he's like admitting to or what's
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the deal with that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I haven't actually read it. My husband did, Okay, Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: like apparently, so I do think that there's a lot
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: of messed up stuff that happened to him at like
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: in his most formative years.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: His dad. His dad was extremely basically put him on
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: this path at like age twelve. Yeah, it was pretty
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: pretty rough.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So and then like yeah, just lots bad stuff
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: happening with that band.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, good domination.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Also, I got the sock penis performance. I remember, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: remember flipping on MTV when I.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Was was that like Coachella's.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I think so. I turned down MTV when I was
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: a kid, and all of a sudden, here were four
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: guys with cock socks, and I was like, what is this?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I don't like this?
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Is that all?
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: They were rare?
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: They were literally just yeah, just socks around their dicks.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Man, and a bunch of Christians got mad at me.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Without you for.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: What was it wearing then and throwing flowers at people?
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: So repressive?
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, banger answer. I think I might have one. But
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: but Mason, if you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Have one, you know, I feel like, you know you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: probably should go first because I know I'm about to win.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I've got such a good Oh, I've got a good one. Yeah, Okay,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I feel very.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I have this answer for both a very.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Just completely biased and uninformed reason and for one informed
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: reason my vote is Limp Biscuit.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: That's what I was going to pick, and ye are
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: that's good.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: That's a good pick.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, here's the reason.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I was like in middle school or early high school
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: and very into Christian music at the time, and even
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: heavier Christian music, as we've spoken about on this podcast.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: So we hear this band name.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's gross, and then just their whole
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: esthetic is also gross.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: And then the only song that I've ever really known
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: from them is break Stuff And for some freaking reason,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: this song gets played at EMO.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I don't get.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: What why, And.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: It's literally just completely glorifying violence. Now that's coming from
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: someone who's about to go to a hardcore show on Wednesday,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: which is all beat down bands.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: So that's saying something like, I do listen to that.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But Lympbisca just seems to be taken to this other
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: level that like, they just seem to be taking themselves
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: too seriously and it's the most unseerious thing in the world.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And I feel like it's it created a culture of
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: like young men that thought it was cool to be
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: it is of shit.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: So that do you watch that that Woodstock nine to
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: nine concert footage.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Oh they're the reason why, like it turned into a disaster.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, But what they were, what they were doing now
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: beforehand too, was like awful, awful offul like they were
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: like they were trying to get like every like girls
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: like take her shirt off and like that. They were
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: like cheering on what appeared to be like some like
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: sexual assault and stuff like that. It was just absolutely awful.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, well my vote stands even stronger now.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: No, that's a. That's a that's a great, great pick.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Although I do think because I'm about to go next
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: because Colling, you have to go back when I think
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: mine is better in part because it's like maybe just
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: as bad from a like the band itself is just
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: as bad or the artist itself is just as bad.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: And also the fans suck and in like two different
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: iterations of suckiness, Like there's like a version of it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: back in the early days and there's like a new
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: version of it that's even shittier now, I think. And
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the artist is kid Rock.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Kid Rock was my other pick.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Damn, I swear I literally have textual evidence to prove this.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I first said kid Rock, but I was like this
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: kind of more because of recent things like Maga, and
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I was like my actual answers limb Biscuit, but I
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: kid you not that no pun intended.
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: That was literally my other pick and apparently it was
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: also Colin.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: So no, No, he sucked. He sucked in the early
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: days way before like the Maga stuff. Yeah, he, I
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: mean he sucked that. Like he literally has like lyrics
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: where he's like breaking about having yeah, statutory rape, Like
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's like he's shitty then. And then also
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I know we were trying. Like the whole
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: point is like the artist itself sucks, but like his
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: his fan base then sucked in a whole like not
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like obviously a lot of those people became a lot
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: of Maga people, but his like his fan base sucked
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: kind of in their own non magaway back then. And
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: then with like the Maga world, obviously he like turned
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: into this whole cultural culture warrior and his like whole
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: fan base did, and now he sucks inn in totally
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: different way now.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: And so I just think like he has had this
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: like consistency for almost thirty years now of just being
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: like a shitty artist who has also not only is
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: he himself shitty is like he has like inspired a
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: fan base to be shitty too for literally three decades.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: And that was also my second answer, and apparently Colin's
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, okay, so I'm last.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Here, You're fucking.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: And uh I think I have one even better on
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: just lyrical content alone. And would you believe it? But
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: they are one of the most popular bands in world history.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: The Beatles.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Nickelback has so many absolutely disgusting, toxic masculinity songs. Yeah,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: things like something in your Mouth. They have a line
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: in there that says, you're so much cooler when you
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: never pull it out because you look so much cuter
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: with something in your mouth. Oh my, So women, are you?
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: So?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Women are more appealing when they can't talk. Apparently, according
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: to Nickelback.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I'm always saying that, dare you?
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: Linday's about to get herself canceled.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: I've been waiting there.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: But there's a there's a whole bunch more. There's a
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: whole bunch more. I mean, if you go, like go
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and listen to the song Animals, which is one of
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: their biggest songs of all time, it like it actually
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: makes me feel disgusted for the human race that this exists.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I cannot believe that they have radio hits.
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: That are that are song you mentioned one.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: As misogynistic as they are so.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Radio.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Yes, animals and Animals is is, I think like their
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: third biggest song.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, it's up there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I vaguely remember someone talking about this before, and I
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: think it might have been.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't know if I've ever
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: talked about this on here. No, how about you want to?
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You want another one?
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: Animals is number five on Spotify right now?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: You want to hear another one? This one's even even
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: worse again, this is one of This is one of
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: their bigger songs. Figured you out? Is this song name?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: I like your pants around your feet, and I like
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the dirt around that's on your knees, and I like
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the way you still say please. Well you're looking up
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: at me. Yikes, what what are we doing?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's my only here's my only retor. I'm pretty
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: sure that Limpus getting kid rock.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: They do, they But I was just trying. I was
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: trying to bring my point home because my other ones
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: were taken.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fair enough, you know what? Fair all right?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: We have our nominations. So we have Nickelback, we have
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Limp Biscuit, we have h lindsay, what was yours again?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Red Hot Chili Pepper's great pick? And then uh and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: then for me Kid Rock. So all right, we have
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to we we do have to be unbiased, so we
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: have to vote amongst ourselves. So I will say, I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: do really think I have a good pick. I'll be honest,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be unbiased.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Here's my question.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Here's my question though, which we didn't do for the
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: last one because it's kind of unanimous because I know
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: that you were you were going to pick the same
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: one because they're just the longest band name.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: So it's a little more objective.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Do we want to make a rule but for something
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: like this that we can't vote for our own and
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: then see how it shakes.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, okay, I can't vote for my own.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I will vote for I'm gonna go Limp Biscuit.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going Limp Biscuit as well.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go Kid Rock.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: I'm going Kid Kay.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: All right, lindsay, what is what if the Grammys do
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: when there's a tie we should have had?
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Here's what we do. Here's what we do for this
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: specific for this specific one, I have the perfect thing. Okay,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I've got a can of Grizzly right here, which is
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: very toxically masculine. All right. If it lands heads up,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: then it's uh then it's limp biscuit. Fit lands on
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: the surgeon general side, then it's then it's kid rock Man.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: The NFL should do it this way too.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: And it is limp biscuit.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love I love that you guys had the
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: most masculine act and then you silenced women throughout it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: No mine one.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: One.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I'm here to like just make accusations at everybody.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I love.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I love that you're on a podcast right now and
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: you're getting cozy in your bed with your I'm going
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to kick my feet up in like ten.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: Minutes while she's just talking her ship.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very Lindsay, Actually very Lindsay.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: All right, what's her? So I've got my category for
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: my first one. Colin just did his first one, uh
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Meg or Lindsay. Who wants to do their their category
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: or their first one?
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: You want to go? Hm hmm do you want to go?
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Do I want to go? Sure, I'll go, But this
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: is this is I'm not. This is a little bit
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: inspired by when earlier. The best band that reminds you
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: that the world is a terrible place and makes you
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: a little afraid to die.
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: That's so good.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Oh god, I thought that the first second I opened
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: my eyes this morning. I'm like, I've got it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Oh so like a band that gives you like existential
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: dread and existential anxiety. All right, I've got my nomination.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: So this is this is based off of this is
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: based off of this, of this, of the sound, right,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: that's where you're going off of?
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, off the sound, the lyrical content, whatever, the fact
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: that they exist, whatever. I don't know, how are you
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: going to take it?
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: I think I might have one, but I don't want
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: to go first.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I'll go first.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Should I go while while you all figure out yours?
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: All right, lindsay what was the category again? Can you
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: say it again?
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Okay? The category is the best artist that reminds you
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: the world is a terrible place and you're we're all
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: a little afraid to die.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. My nomination is the world is a beautiful place,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm no longer herd to die.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: I'm dead.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you listened to them before. I don't
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: get more existentially hasty than when I listen to that baby.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It's so cheating, that is, they give me a lot
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: of anxiety.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: You found the bread crumbs and you're gonna.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, She's like, she's like giving me a softball,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and then I just like belt it out with a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: home run, Like, I mean, can you blame me?
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: Okay, my answer is way better. I'm just saying, but
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: I want.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: To sorry, why do you want me to go before you?
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: Because I might change my mind.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go with my knee jerk reaction. Then, Uh,
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the artist that I think Uh writes
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: the lyrics that don't always, at least on the surface,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: sound all that like depressing, but they kind of are.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: And I'll say the Smiths I think. I think I
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: think Morrissey has Uh has an ability to just make
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: make you feel like everything's gonna suck forever.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Mmm.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I mean I was looking for a job and then
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: I found a job, and heaven knows, I'm miserable.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: If I crash this double decker bus.
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you know what, fair point? But it's romantic.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just talking about dying romantic.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's cool. He's also consistent by also making
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: sure he sucks and is like everyday life too, like.
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: Okay, you're ready for answer.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: It's it's I was stressed about doing this like on
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the fly, because I know I.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: Have musicnology, but I'm one of those people that can kind.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Of like stutter or just get too much in my
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: brain and have decision paralysis. But this one came to
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: me almost immediately when Lindsay said that that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: Is bad religious. Yeah, because their lyrics are phenomenal.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, as a Christian, I am still a Christian,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I'm still trying to follow Jesus, but they critique Christianity
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: in a way that I can't help but agree with.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: But they all they don't just critique Christianity.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: They critique They critique capitalism, America, individualism, corporate greed, a
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: lot of the things that I agree with. But it
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: can kind of become a lot where you're just listening
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: to this constantly and you're like, you're totally right, and
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: also now I'm depressed, you know, like and so it's
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: one of those things where I'm like, man, there their lyrics,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: their politics, their ethics are like, so so good, but
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: it also just makes me really angry and a little
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: embarrassed to be a Christian because they're not wrong in
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: their critiques.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a good one for that reason, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: agree with you, all right.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Great picks. All right, so we've got our nominations.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: We've got you didn't go.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Masons are really about lindsay, You guys are.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Just problematic things. One problematic thing. Okay, this is actually
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: really hard because I was between My first thing is
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: was influenced by make shirt, which is Julian Baker, which
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: is also ways. Whenever I'm like I put on Jillian Baker,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I am heading for a crisis. But I
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: still listen to have you.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Seen the like tweet that's like Julian or uh Julian
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: No sorry, Phoebe Bridgers is happy music for people that
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: listen to Julian Baker.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: I mean that's me and Lizzy. That's literally me and Lizzy.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: I do love Julian and I still am able to
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: listen to Julian Baker. There's one artist I can no
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: longer listen to because their music told me with so
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: much dread, and that is Spianish love songs?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay.
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: Literally like there, I forget what no is? It called
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: no Joy, which was like a very apt name, but
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: it's like all about climate change and stuff that's like
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: I can't do this. I can't do this. I just like,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: what day I put down that album and I never
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: picked it back up? Fair? Yeah?
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So wait, which one's your answer is the Julian Baker?
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Is it Spanish?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: I think it's Spanish last Songs just because I can't
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: listen to them at all anymore because it's like, oh,
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: this is not good for my health.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Mm.
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I I have artists like that too, Colin, what
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: was your pick?
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: The Smiths?
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: That's right, I guess.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I guess my my pick is more like about like
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: personal existential dread, whereas you guys are more worldly. I
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: was thinking more individually.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I definitely went a little too personal with that
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: with that category, which is okay, because you guys really right,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: I didn't do.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, are we gonna are we gonna go with the
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: same thing before? Like we're trying to be like fair
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: and like unbiased. Pick someone else's to see how it
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: shakes out.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think at this point we probably should,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: so uh, I will pick uh hmm. I'm gonna go
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: with Spanish love songs because I do think that's a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: really great pick.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Lindsay, I'm actually gonna do the same.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: It's funny because I like the Smith's way, way, way
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: way more and more.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: He's a terrible person, yeah, but the Smiths listening to
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: them makes me very happy.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Now here's the catch? Oh yeah, oh, I just I
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: don't know why it's.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Nostalgic for me. I also, I'm a GoF DJ and
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: so I play them and people are dancing, and I'm like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: yay dancing, you know. So I'm gonna go with Lindsay's pick.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Now Here, here's my kind of caveat. I actually don't
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: know Spanish love songs very well. I've seen them live,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: I've listened to a few of their songs that I
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: really love, and his voice just wasn't it for me,
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: and so I kind of fell off. But because Lindsay
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: prefaced her answer with Julian Baker and Julian Baker does
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: make me feel to rest, but I'm addicted to it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: I'm going to go with Lindsay's answer. I'm literally wearing
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: a Jillian Baker shirt.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: So that's what I'm like.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, shoot, Baker, make remind me what you picked again.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: Mine was bad religion just because of.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I'll take I'll take bad religion on this one.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, Wait, lindsay, what's your pick?
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: If it's not yours, I'm actually gonna go with the Smiths.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Now what do we do?
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Spanish? Yeah, so all right, Spanish Love Songs wins. Uh,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the existential dread round.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Good call.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Congrats, Congrats Spanish Love Songs. I'm sure exactly the Grammy
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: nomination and award you would have.
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: Congrats amazing.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Meg, I think you've got your first one,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: right your okay, category, let's let's hear it. What who
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: are you? What? What's what's our award that we're nominating for?
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: So, Mason, when you texted us this, I already knew
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: what my first category was gonna be because I have
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: joked about this with my friends before, and that is, uh,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: the most hardcore sounding band name from the least.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I am looking through.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Uh, you can't do it. It's got to be off
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: the top of the doll.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I've been. I've been going to my last
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: FM throughout all of this.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: That's such a good I know exactly what you are.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I will be shocked and deeply impressed if anyone chooses
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: the band name.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: That I am.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: I have a couple other options, but.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I am picking This will Destroy You.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, destroy is the perfect answer because it's uh,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you know it is.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: It is nothing but just voluptuous post rock.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. My only argument I was, I was I was
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: thinking about this.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: No.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: My only argument is they themselves would describe themselves as
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: like like they call themselves doom Gays, which is like, yeah,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: they're obviously like playing on like doom metal there. So
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: it's like they kind of think of themselves as sort
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: of a little bit of a do metal band.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, Mason, I was playing a This Will Destroy You
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: song in class while my students were working on a
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: writing assignment, So that says what it means.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: They're not. But like it's not like they're like some
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: little fun, little pop band. That's not what she said,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Like a name that would be, but that's what.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about, a hardcore band, like like a band
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: that is not definitive not hardcore, but sounds like their
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: band name could be.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think of like what objectively sounds
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: so opposite of hardcore, which, yeah.
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: That is part of the category. You're right, you're right.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like this will destroy you, definitely doesn't. They
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: have definitely not hard literally like they have, but they
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: have like heavy ship, like some of the heaviest ship
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you'll ever hear.
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: Car work, not vocally guitar work.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but guitar work wise. It's not like they're it's
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: not like they have like tons of distortion and gain.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: They're doing like tons and tons and tons of reverb
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: and and laying that.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see both of your sides. I'm curious
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: to see what Macon's answer is.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not ready yet.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to go last. So that means lindsay
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: your next.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Okay. I don't know if this one is exactly good,
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: but it always confuses me a little bit. Have you
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: guys heard the band Daughter of Swords?
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: No?
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: No, okay, I they like it's one woman. It's a
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: one woman band. And have you ever seen that Apple
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: commercial where they're handing each other the MacBooks it's like
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: I really want to talk to you. I really wanted
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: you to do. Oh that's Daughter of Swords and like
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: their name so little metal, but they're so pod to
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: be and airy and fun, like they're a really fun
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: band to listen.
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: Okay, lindsay legitimately badass answer like I did not. I
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: did not know the band at all.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: But then you talked about the commercials like, I've definitely
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: heard that song if you if someone were to say,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: have you heard Daughter of Swords, I would think metal band,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: not hardcore per se, but definitely right next to it.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: Amazing answer.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one. I'm so excited that they're finally getting
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: their laurels a little bit, because like every time it
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: comes out, I'm like, yes, give them attention.
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: They're great.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: You're so not great at this one. That's all right, Okay, Okay,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually, you know, as much as I was
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: giving Cullen a lot of shit about this, I'm gonna
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: kind of go the same route just because it does
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it does sound. It does sound like such a metal,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: hardcore name, and they're like, not that, and I'm sure
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: this is like one of those categories where if I like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: look through like all the music I listened to, I
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: would find something where I'm like, why did I not
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: think of that earlier? But because we're we're going off
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the top of the dome. There is a band from
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Triple Crown Records that is a instrumental math rock band,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: great band, very math rocky, not hardcore really at all,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: but all instrumental. But they're called Covet, which I wouldn't
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Covet is such a metal name.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Covet.
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: We know Covet very well.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, such a metal name, like a hardcore name to
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Covet was actually it actually kind of was the That
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: was the other band I was thinking of doing and
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: ste out of this will destroy you, but this will destroy.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: You a little more on the nose. I felt like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: that's pretty crazy that we're on the same page with that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a lot of us have been on the
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: same page today apparently. Okay, I one word hardcore bands
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: is like completely thing. The other day, actually, my friend
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: had his like thirtieth birthday recently, and so we had
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people over.
• 55:21
  Speaker 5: And I was just being a pretentious jerk and was like,
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: name the four beat down hardcore bands.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: From the mid two thousands, I don't know why we
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: were talking about that, and it was all one word harderband,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: so like tear, mad, ball, hate, throw it down, and.
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: They're all they're all one word bands.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: So so I'm bringing this up because this just like
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: supports Mason's answer, Cove it would be a very good
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: hardcore band, Dave good pick.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: This one's gonna be tough, all right, Meg, what do
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: you yeah.
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: Smash mouth?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Oh oh you might win this one. That is such a.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Your son of a bitch, that's going the.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Son of a bitch. That is such a good.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Said.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: When you first brought up this idea, I was so
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: excited for literally this.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: Moment right now you thought about this making yeah, oh
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: that's such a good one.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: That was a really smaller going with so much confidence
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: that you're like, we shouldn't vote for ourselves.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: The thing that sucks for you, Maggie, You're not gonna
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: be able to vote for yourself. But the thing that
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: is great for you is we clearly really like this one.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: What like what a great like beat down hardcore band?
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Name though smash.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Exactly exactly you understand, and the.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Tune is can't get enough for you, babe, Like what
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: how how is that smash Mouth? What did they call
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: it that?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And they started And the craziest part is how they
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: started as a band.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Whoo whoa?
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's funny too? Is I think Mason did
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: you see like his last show.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Before one of his I don't think it was the last,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: but it was like he died like two weeks after
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I saw him. It was the first. It was. It
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: was like the first show I saw. Okay, my like
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: cringiest thing of cringiest fun fact about me among many.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: The cringiest though, is the first band that I saw
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: after like the pandemic or like sort of post pandemic,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: if you will, was smash Mouth. They played they played
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: a free show. They played a free show like an
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: hour from like where I was at the time, and
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: I just like there was nothing else to do that day,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: so I was like, I'll go watch smash Mouse. So
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I went to watch Smath's Mouth and then like two
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: weeks later he died.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: You called I saw them.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I killed him.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I saw them at a free show as well. Then
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: one and only time I saw smash Mouth.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Was it post pandemic or like in the early or
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: like kind of like.
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: It was twenty nineteen.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: I saw them at the Santa Cruz Beach boardwalk with
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: my mother.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: That actually that's who you would watch smash That actually
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: sounds pleasure. It was pleasant, actually very special, very wholesome.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: It was wholesome. Thank you.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's uh, let's vote and then we'll take a
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: quick break.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: So I.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like smash Mouth has got to win. This
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: is like you clearly have thought about this. You clearly
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: knew what you were getting yourself into. And congratulations Meg.
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: Thank you so so much.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: I'm voting for you, Lindsay, thank you, thank you for.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: Taking my right to vote away.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: I'm actually struggling with what I would have voted for
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: because they all make sense to me. Daughter's Swords is
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: to me more of a metal sony band, So I'm
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: gonna be very straightforward.
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I would have to pick Covet because that sounds more
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: like a hardcore band. But Daughter Source is a close second.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: That is, Lindsay, you really nailed that one. That is
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: a very MAPSONI band.
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. Now you guys all have to listen
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: to Daughter Swords. Okay, she's so pleasant.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, so here we are, second round of our different categories.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited for my category. I think I might
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: have mentioned this as my example category when I brought
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: this up Lindsay and Meg, and I'm gonna you know,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it up now, and it is my category.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate the fact that you guys didn't seal it,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: so I appreciate that. I think this is maybe the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: best category that there possibly could be, but I'm maybe
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: a little biased. This category will be the award for
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: secular band that sounds like a Christian band. So secular
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: band that just sounds Christian. This sounds Christian to you.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I've got my nomination already ready to go. I highly
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: doubt you'll steal it. I have a tweet that went
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: it went pretty well a number of years ago where
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I basically like said this same thing so you know
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of people agreed with me then when I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: tweeted this. So I'm feeling very confident about the band
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that I will be picking for this.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: When we say sounds Christian, are we talking about like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: a specific genre of Christian? Are we talking about like
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Christian worship.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Music sound lyrically, sonically, Yeah, just sounds Christian. You just
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: listen to this and you're like you're like, maybe, like, wait,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: was this Christian? It just sounds Christian.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick the Fray.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: It's a great pick, Colin. Colin, you are coming in hot.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: I love that pick. That's a great one. All right,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: let's hear your reasons though.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Uh, the first time I heard it on the radio,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: I literally thought I was listening to a Christian radio station.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: No joke, that's that's That's a great Colin. You might
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: be rivaling mine because my mind's up there.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: I think there's like there's like an element of like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: that like two thousands piano rock that just has with
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: like like sort of like a really terrible version of
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: blue eyed soul to it that that creates a very
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Christian contemporary sort of worship y but also sort of
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: not kind of kind of vibe.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: It's very hopeful too, Like there's kind of this like
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: hopefulness where you're like, God, this sounds like something like
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: that would have played with like switch Foot totally totally.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: You know what's funny, Colin.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: I was very active in my college group's worship band,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: and on I think more than one occasion, we had
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: some kind of like extended worship night, and we definitely
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: played how to Save a Life.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: There we go, just just saying just say now. I'll
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: be honest, I have no idea what the rest of
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: their discography sounds like, so I could be totally off
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: on that, but just that song at the very least
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: sounds yeah, very Christian to me.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: They're one of those bands calling like I feel this
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: a way about like Lincoln Park and maybe a number
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: of other bands. Actually I feel this way about Coldplay.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: They're oh, maybe I just give one away, but there
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: are so many bands where you're like, wow, I would
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: have never guessed I knew that many songs from that band. Yeah,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: and I guarantee you as much as like the phrase has,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, and maybe a lot of it. Well, their
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: lead singer is no longer part of the band that much,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I know. I don't know much about the history of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the phrase, but I do know their lead singer, who
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: is like a part of those big hits, he's no
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: longer a part of the band. I think he just
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: like wanted to step away from music, but he yeah,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: he stepped away. But that band, when they were at
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: their height, had so many top hits and in like
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: they're just like one of those bands where you're just like, wow,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have guessed that they just have that much
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: top hits, but they just do. Like they're just they
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: were so popular for like five years.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: They're they're like Tom Petty all of a sudden, All
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, you realize that Tom Petty has like
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: thirty hits. How is that possible?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like so many.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the phrase like that they just have so many.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: That's a great pick. I I've I've had the same
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: thought about the Pray too. I would imagine a lot
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: of other people do. And the thing is a lot
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: of these bands that we might bring up are bands that, like,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: even though they were technically secular, they might actually have
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Christian roots. Like there might be a real possibility, like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the phrase from Denver, like there's a possibility they like
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: grew up in the megatine world. I don't know that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: for certain or not, but like certainly I wouldn't be
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: like you, I wouldn't put it past them if that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: was the case.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: So would you like me to come in as the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: Fray expertian?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: I mean you clearly you do know you were they expert.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Really well, I.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Believe that Isaac Slade, who was a lead singer. This
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: is now I'm not I'm going through my kubazz right now.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: I'm not actually looking this up. So this is just
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: off i'd off the top of my head. I explained
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: he crew of Christian, I believe, and on there they
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: had an album where he basically had a song called
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: you Found Me and like basically is talking about it
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: struggles with faith. So there was faith elements in there,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: but not a Christian band. And I think that he is.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: There's one other band that I'm that I'm thinking of
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: off the top of my head that I'm like, if
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: someone doesn't pick this, uh we we failed as a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: as a foursome here.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: I already have. I already have two answers that I wanted.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: I want, like Lindsay or someone to go first.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: I'm looking because I.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: Or if you're not ready yet, we can wait, or
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: you could just go Meg Okay, Mason, you go for.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: The last.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: Oh that's right, it was it was it was your category. Okay, Lindsay,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: do you want to go?
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: I can go. There might not be a good one,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: but I'm going to go with it. Anyway, because my
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: true belief is that this is a band that's actually
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Hillsong for deconstructed youth group kids. Oh, and that that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: is me and chest Orchestra.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Oh answer, great answer.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: Actually they do struggle a lot with faith, and like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: I feel like their news stuff kind of has Christianese vibes,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: but like their early stuff is like it has the
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: Hillsong builds where like you get really emotionally attached and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: it's talking about faith a lot of times. But like
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: usually you'll find people who have way too many me
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: with that youth shirts and their closet at their shows.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Does Andy have like a Christian background? Like I know
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: he's from Atlanta? Liked did he grow up with like, uh,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: why am I blinking on his name right now? And
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: just like that that whole like that whole like.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he has the song I Am the only
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: son of a past or I.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Know, Andy Stanley, Like did he grow up in that
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: kind of world?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I can look at a hall, well, just think about
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: their first think about their first album. Yeah too, I'm
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: like the big song, like I'm like a virgin losing
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: a child.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like there's no way he didn't grow
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: up evangelical exactly. Yeah, like Atlanta at that time. I
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: mean he would have been like he would have been
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: like prime like youth group years, like like late nineties,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: early two thousand's Atlanta. Like he totally grew up in
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: that megachurch world for sure. Like there's just no way
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: you couldn't have escaped it at that point. So that's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: a great pick, Lindsay, It really actually is, And that's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: why that's what I'm saying like that, I think I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: think there is something we said about a lot of
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: these like secular bands that we would maybe associate as
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: like kind of Christian. A lot of them probably actually
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: just grew up Christian like, and so they just have
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: this like vibe.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, isn't the song where have You Been Directed to God?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: Oh? That would make a lot of.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Sense in their first album?
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. And then they they're like they
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: had an EP recently and it's like in the Valley
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: of the like it was like a hymn name. Yeah.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: Also his dad was a pastor of the longest standing
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: historic church in Canada.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: There it is.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: And then it also says on his Wikipedia. Feeling increasingly
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: isolated at his small town Georgia Christian High School, Providence
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Christian Academy, and suburban Atlanta, he spent his full senior
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: year studying at home. So his home school his senior year.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: So like this this dude, that dude knows every silly
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: song with Larry, Like.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I'm thinking though, I'm thinking that,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: like I'm thinking that we're picking up as like a
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: sixth sense as people who grew up in the Christian
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: world of like who speaks that Christians kind of language can.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: Take that up really quack. Yeah, quick story on this
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: quick story. Okay, So I did not know any of that,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: like Christian music world existed. Like my my sense of
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: like Christian music was there was secular music like Blink
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Win eighty two or whatever as a kid, and then
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: there or you know whatever else was on the retail,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: and then there was worship music that was at church. Yeah,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was sort of this like
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: cross between that existed. And then when I was in
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I just had finished third grade and I had this
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: this summer between third grade and fourth grade, I had
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: a a like babysitter. If you will even though it
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: was like third grade or whatever. She would come over
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: for like Nanny, I guess you would say she was
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: a name she she would come over like during the day.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Funny enough, her brother ended up becoming a huge megachurch pastor. Anyway,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: who's she would come over? Uh, I'm forgetting. He was
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: at embrace in in Souk the embraced guyets who falls
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: and he like he's huge, Like he's got hundreds of
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: thousands of you talk now. Anyway, his sister would come
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: over and, like Nanny me during the summer, and she,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: you know, she was like in high school at this point,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: and she would let me watch like MTV two and Infuse,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: and you know, there would be like the top like
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: music video or whatever. And that's when like I found
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: out about Relying Kayne switchfoot And I still remember having
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: this distinct memory of you know, I would watch like
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Blink Onwin eighty two and all these secular bands, and
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously really love them. But then I would
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: watch like switch Foots, you know, like Meant to Live video,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: and I like I remember asking her, I'm like, why
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: do they seem different than all the other bands? I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: have a discore memory of being a like ten year
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: old or nine year old or however old. I was
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: at that time having a distinct memory asking her why
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: why is this switch foot band different than the other bands?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: And she was like, Oh, it's because they're Christian. But
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I could pick up on that really quickly as like
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: a nine or ten year old, and I just there
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: was something about the fact that I grew up in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: the world that I could pick that up even though
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about Switch to other than to me,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: they sounded a little different than like the Blink one
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: eighty two or Newfound Glory or whoever else was big
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: at that.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Arn't that weird? That's why?
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that is a great pick, lindsay, yeah, Mike,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: let's hear it.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's the problem. I have two answers. H Mason,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: you kind of already said what was my original answer?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: And so I have a second answer. But I have
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: a reason that I don't want to choose the second answer.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: So my first initial answer when you brought this up
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: was coldplay, and for multiple reasons that I'm sure you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: all have thought at some point in your adult life.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: Realizing the correlation between these things. I don't think Coldplay
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: swears in almost any of their songs.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: First of all, I can't think of a single clore.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: Or like rarely like sexual, Like there's nothing PG about
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: any of their exactly.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: So they remind me of like, you know, when like
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: Hillsong United like first started that. It was you know,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: before Bethel, before Jesus Culture, before Maverick City, like before
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: all those things like exploded. Hillsong United was like, oh
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: my gosh, like this sounds different than like Maranatha music
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: or like the Gaither band, you know, like it just
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: it was very different.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: It was very emotive.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: It was like these chords that were melancholic but hopeful,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: like all those kinds of things. Coldplate does that, like
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: they do the same kinds of things, and they have
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: very like upbeat lyrics that are also emotionally vulnerable, which
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of Hillsong did, and so there's a lot
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: of that overlap. Similar to a corporate worship band, they
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: got progressively worse, they got progressively more corporate, more accessible
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: and way way less deep, way less interesting, more generic,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: more accessible but less interesting, and so some of those
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: songs I think, or some of those worship bands too,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: you know, Hillsong being being the prime example for me,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: just became less and less interesting, like just the song,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: song after song sounds the same. And so I feel
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: like Coldplay did the same thing in their later career.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: But in the beginning it was like, oh my gosh,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: what is this, Like this sounds different than this genre,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Like they're almost genre less, similar to the Fray or
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: Augustana or like snow Patrol, like those kind of bands,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: like the piano rock bands.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: It was very like genre less in this way.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: It's like not quite indie because it was still pop
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: and like soft rock, but not quite. So that's why
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: my pick is Coldplay because the name doesn't sound Christian,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: but their whole like ethos, is very Christian adjacent.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: A couple of things to add here, great pick. There
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: is a I have a whole joke about whatever Coldplay
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: is putting out that's like they're gonna be five years
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: ahead of whatever worship music is gonna sound like they
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: just are always ahead of like whatever worship music Like
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, let's be honest, like, you know, whatever
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Coldplay was doing in the late nineties, that's what worship
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: music ended up sounding out five years later. And then
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: like once Coldplay moved into this kind of like electronic
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: pop thing, that's what worship music turned into. You know,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: like five years we.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 5: Have Hillsong, Young and Free. Now I'm like, they're.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Just like always five years ahead of whatever worship.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Mus And do you know who passed them the torch?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Delirious five?
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: You two?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: No, Delirious five, you too passed the torch.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: Also, it's they're not called Delirious five. It's delirious, but
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: the s is a five.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: That's the joke. You were trying to make.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: A joke, right, Yes, Okay, but like come on, I.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: Don't know if you actually were. I think you were serious.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Now that you say that.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: It's kind of it's like kind of the way he reacted.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: He definitely meant that.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: My my mom is gonna listen to this podcast and
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: be like, yes, it's no.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: The secular band that passed the torch literally created all
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: of like that early two thousand's.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: YouTube did a lot of that. Yesundwork.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: They were Hillsong and Cold Hillsong United.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: I do have a really good story regarding this. I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: went to a youth camp and there there was like
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: this really trendly youth camp called Youth America and like
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: one of the past, like they wrote songs with hillsong
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 4: like this was a really big deal. And one night
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: they had a worship night and they're like, Okay, we
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: want everybody right now to just close your eyes and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: just imagine God is singing this song to you. And
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: so like everybody's closing their eyes and it's a really
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: big emotional moment. And I kid you not, they started
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: playing yellow but Cold, which doesn't.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: At all God.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Oh so good, Such a good pick again, Like there's
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: a reason why I think so much worse at music
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: at least at least at one point really just sounds
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: like cold Play. So it's a it's a great pick,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: so can't beat it. I do think I have a
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: really good pick, though. I do think I have a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: really good pick. And the reason why I think I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: have a really good pick is this is a secular
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: band quote unquote secular band that ended up so sounding
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: Christian that they ended up getting like literally adopted by
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: Christian conferences. Okay, like officially adopted by Christian conferences. If
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: anyone listening, or either one of you three, I'm sure
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: you all know about it.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say it's lifehouses.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: No, they were not.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: They were ever market they were. They were never marketed
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: as a Christian band.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: Just because they're not marketed as one doesn't mean they
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: are not.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: The song everything is actually about God, like legitimately great
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: not Jesus.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: But I mean, like John Leonard wrote wrote songs about
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: God too, and he was not a Christian.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Actually, very good question.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Johnny Cash literally had a song called God's Going to
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Cut You Down. Yeah, I mean Johnny Cash is like
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: a CCM.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: I think that you're you're flying too close to home.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 5: I don't know what the actual there is. I think
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: that it's too close.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: There is not a guarant They were never a tooth
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and nail band. They were never on any Christian label.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: They were never like, yeah, maybe maybe they're on radio.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: They were maybe today.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty good that's a pretty good litmus.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, listen, listen. I remember ying either in late middle
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: school or early high school. The song of the year
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: was either on Air One or on Caleb. I don't remember.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure it was Air One. Was Hanging by
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 5: a moment?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: That was their song, Mason You I think she might
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: be right because you you switch what also wasn't really
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: a Christian act you could switch quote, but they were,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: and they're kind of in the same boat.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: They have they had been on Christian labels.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's the difference. You're read about that one. What
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: label was Lifehouse on.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Not Capital Maybe? Okay, I don't think Life House. I mean,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: I do have a backup hand if you need me
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: to do a backup.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: But okay, what's your backup answer, because I don't. I
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: think that Life House is too close because they were
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: played on Christian radio and sold in Christian books.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: We also heard it a lot in our youth group,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Mason Well, I wonder.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Why they sounded Christian.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: But but here's the thing. We didn't do human videos
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 5: to cold Play or to the Fray.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: We did them to Okay, I gotta okay my backup band.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: There's no human videos too. But they sound they sound
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: aggressively Christian, especially their their their popular stuff Hooba Steak.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: I almost want to give you my second answer.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: So Hooba stinks sounds so Christian. If you listen to
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: the Reason, you're gonna be like the reason. Yes, you
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: listen to the Reason, and you're.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: Okay, lyrically, yeah, sure lyrically.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Not just lyrically. You're gonna listen to the reason You're like,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: this is a switch Foot ripoff?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Mm, I don't know.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a soft like switch Foot song.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: I Love You, but I don't know if this is
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this is all right.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: So we're going with Lifehouse.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: So Lifehouse answer, and I don't vote.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: For life Like.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, let's look at Lifehouses. Let's look
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: at their record labels.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 5: He's gonna push for this.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: I just like, yeah, like okay, they I mean like okay,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: they were on one Christian label once.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: No, they weren't even on it.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: Let's ask ai is Lifehouse a Christian bank?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Why does Wikipedia not have their discography?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 5: That makes no sense.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: They don't. They just they go from members to no.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: I was just about to read that. I was just
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: about to read what they were worship band Mason. That's
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: how they formed.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: They were worship but they were never Okay, they went
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: Their first album was on dream Works, literally dream Works,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: and then they went to Geffen.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: You know what? You know what happened to Joseph in
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: the jail his dreams work.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's good. It's good.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying, like, there's a reason why some
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: of these bands sound Christian, Like I mean we already okay,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: why why does the Fray work but Life House doesn't.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: The Fray his dad was like a Christian pastor.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: Is somebody getting because the Fray?
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: The Fray was not formed originally. The Fray was not
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: originally formed as a worship band. That's like saying like
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: King's Koweidoscope is not a Christian band because.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: They were like form were they actually formed as Life
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: House does a Christian band?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Life House actually probably was the.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: One here that says that they formed as a Christian.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: Life House was probably the name of their youth group.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: My youth group was called My college youth group is
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: called Oxygen.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Ours was called Booth.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I've been part of multiple and guess what. Guess what
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: are our youth group room was called the boom Room?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 4: Was it?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Actually that's what we called it.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: That's for broken, open, obedient messengers.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: That's you guys. That is worse than.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: I've totally forgot about g Force.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: Never we moved into our house, we had a room
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: downstairs that was curtained off, and apparently they used to
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: call it their boom room. And I don't think they
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: meant like, no, Okay, let's vote then.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: All right, well, so Lifehouse counts. Uh, I mean clearly
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: according to you, guys are like arguing against it so
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: much that you know it's a good pick. So you know,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: it feels like, you know, it's like Lebron James versus
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: like Michael right now, where it's just like you got
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: to do everything to discredit Lebron James right now because
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: you know how great of a pick he actually is
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: in the goat debate. So that's what it feels like
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: right now. So all right, Lifehouse counts. You're just gonna
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: have to deal with it.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 3: So, but we got some other good picks.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: The phrase a good pick. Cole plays a good pick, lindsay,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: what was your pick? That's a great pick too. We
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: had the whole thing about that, all right. I feel
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: like out of all of the categories we've done, this
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: has like this feels like the most even.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: The most divisive. Even Okay, I already know what my
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: answer is and so I'm not picking my own obviously. Uh,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick the Fray.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: And the only reason I'm picking the Fray over Manchester
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Orchestra is because Manchester Orchestra has more overtly wrestling Christian lyrics.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: And so if we're going with a definitively secular band
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: that sound Christian in their sound, like the genre sound
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: and their lyrical content without being overtly re ling with
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: spiritual themes.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: That's the except for their hit You Found Me, where
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: literally starts out with I found God on the corner.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: You have a good point. I'm still picking the Fray.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: He was smoking a cigarette, but it doesn't matter.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: It really wasn't a cigarette.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's my pick, is the Fray.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: Good pick? Good pick? All right, you pick.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: I'll go Coldplay.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: Good pick, Lindsay, Actually no, I changed a cold Play.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: I I was gonna win a category finally, and then
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: you you had.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: I meant the Fra, I met the Free, I met
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: the Fray. That's what I said the first time.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Mason tiebreaker or tie and then Colin has to flip
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: the pam again.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Wait, so Lindsay said, uh, Coldplay, right, this is.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: The pray and she said the pray then said cold Play,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: then Colin complained, and then she switched again and.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Wait, so Meg, what did you say? You said the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Fray my pick.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: My nomination was Coldplay. But I can't pick my own nomination.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: So I said the Fray, all right, So I'm going Coldplay.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 5: So we're tired, all right.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: If it's Heads, it's cold Play, if it's Surgeon General, it's.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: This.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: It feels like the best way to determine a non
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Christian band.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: You won one.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, that was that was I was right off the
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: dome right away.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 4: That was.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: That was a good That was a very good peck.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: Although I would not have won that if it wasn't
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: for my grandstanding to lindsay and I'm.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I know Colin, I will say you you have
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: something like I mean, even like the script. The script
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: could have been up there. I like all those bands
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: from that.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: Brought up August and I was like, oh, yeah, that
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: would Doughtry, Daughtry. Daughtry does genre, very different genre.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Just a lot of bands from that era that just
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: could have totally like they sounded they sounded Christians, all right.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: I love that category. I think that's a fun category
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: to mess around with. All right. So who wants to
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: go next?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: I can go next, all right. This one is a
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: little bit more uh uh wide sweeping. It can be
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: any genre because every genre has this. Just about every
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: genre interesting best shock rock act. And I know what, Mason,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: I know it. Mason's gonna pig.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: Okay, I've got mine, all right.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: I watch a lot of videos lately, so I'm boy.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: That scares me. All right, lindsay, go ahead, you had
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: it ready to what's.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: That I'm calling on?
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Garde?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Oh Landsay, that's a great pick. Referenced earlier tonight, Still
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: one of the strangest interviews that Colin and I have
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: ever done, the weirdest, so weird, and also I can't
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: believe we did that so early on when we it's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: still like I feel like that's like an interview that
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: we should only have gotten like later on after we
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: were sort of veterans, but we got that, like as
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: Like our very next episode was like Sonny from Pod
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: I was like, how does this happen?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: So weird? It was like that back to back. It
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: was so weird. It was like red jump of Red
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: jumpsup apparatus the guar and then like Sonny.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: Red that would have been a very good well but
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: he's but.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Ronnie is super Christian. He's still but.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: They weren't a worship band when they started.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Life was yeah, fair enough, fuck you all right? Is
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: a great band. Have you seen those like videos. I've
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: seen like a lot of like reels or tiktoks of
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: like people coming back from their shows and they're just
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: like sopped with all their fake blood. Yeah, it's so cool,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: it's so great.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: I think that Lards Gottich has done so much good
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 4: stuff with the like NPR Tiny Desk, but the best
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: thing that he's ever done is getting core.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: So it was so funny, so good.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: I'm such a sucker for shock rock acts, like I
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: cannot get enough of it. Like the fact that you
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: can just bring like spectacle to music is just so
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: much fun.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous of it. One of my favorite fun facts about music,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: and I've got a lot of them. One of my favorites, though,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: is the lead singer for Gwar has a PhD and
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: sociology or actually I think it's anthropology. He did. He
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: did his PhD specifically on like the ethnographic something about
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: like local music, Like there's something about ethnographic and like
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: mu local music and he has a ted talk. You'll
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: watch this ad one too. It's a great one. You
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: call go watch the lead singer from Guar talk about
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: something about like how like the Richmond music scene, like
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: is the kind of scene that would have created a
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: band like Gar because that was what literally his PhD
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: is all about. And it's like you get the like
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: real live version of the dude who's the lead singer
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: of Guar, not Mask or anything, and you just get
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: like the PhD version of him. It's so interesting.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hm, alright, who's next?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Not me?
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: I'm still I'm deliberating between two, so I need someone
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: else to go first.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Mason then oh geez, all right, well I think Colin
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: knows what I'm gonna do. Uh to me, this is
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: like the king of shockrock in a really horrific, horrible,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: disgusting way. Uh to me. Like typically shockrock is like
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: all like you know, you're just like doing things that
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: are like crazy and it's like fun at the end
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: of the day, but it's just kind of crazy or weird.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I still remember being like a teenager going literally like
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: on the Wikipedia page of like shockrock and then like
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: going down the rabbit trail of that and then finding
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: out about an artist called gg Allen, and I still
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: to this day am like so disgusted by him. And
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: also I'm like, this guy was literally doing the most
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: shockrock thing that ever, like whatever like the final version
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: of shackrock ever could have been, Like he was doing
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: all of that, like he was he was doing despicable, horrible,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: like crime evil things on stage and it was like
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: the final version of anything that could have been shockrock.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: And I just was like, even as like a sixteen
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: seventeen year old, that was like this guy was like
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: doing that, like that's what that was the final version
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: of it. So I think my nomination has got to
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: be gg Ellen. And like I'm not like trying to
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: praise him, like I really do think he's a despicable,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: evil human. And also like he was doing shockrock in
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the final version of whatever shackrock could have ever been.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no one really wants to go to Ggllen levels
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: of shockrock, right, Like there's theatricality and then there's just
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: like then there's just like debauchery, and he and he
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: did that. He was debauchery in full definition. Yeah.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been watching a lot of like interviews about
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: him recently, and like like all the people, like even
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: like respected musicians that we would respect that like used
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: to tour with him or got to know him, they
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: all said, like it truly for him is it's a
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: weird thing to like say it this way, but like
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: the shit that he was doing on stage in his
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: mind was performance because he had like a different way
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: of being in person that had nothing to do like
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: that like on stage, and yet he still would do
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: things on stage that we would still say is like
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: that's evil, that's like inhumane, that's this despicable, and it
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: was all of those things, but there was like this
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: he had this like way of like going through that
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: like dissonance. I don't know, like there was something weird
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: about that that I find like I don't know how
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: he could like just like turn that on and then
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: like turn it off. But but but there's also like
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: there was times that he like didn't turn it off
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: to Like I don't know, I find him like as
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: a it's it's amazing that he didn't murder people like
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: he often would say like if he wasn't a musician,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: he probably would have become a steiler killer, And I
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: do think that's probably true, Like he is one of
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: those people that was probably in that place. He to me,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: like when we're thinking about shockrock, I just like think
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: of like he is the ultimate form of like whatever
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: shackrock could have ever been.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: Did you know that his birth name was Jesus Christ.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, yep, Jesus Christ Allen.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: His his life was like basically set up to be
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: a shockrocker.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Yikes.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just he had like he had everything, like
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: his dad was super abusive to him and his mom
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: and his brother. Like, he like he had everything like
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: set against him at the very beginning. They like lived
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: in like one room cabin. It was it was just
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: like it was not. Yeah, they had everything set against him.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: And and he obviously still turned out to be like
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: doing really shitty you know stuff. But and probably honestly,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: the best thing that could have probably ever happened in
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: terms of his life was the fact that he died
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: so young, because he probably would have done way worse things. Yeah.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: I have known that name for years and years and years,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: had no idea anything about him until.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: Oh he's I did know that he was that gable,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: despicable things to.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: Like defecate on stage and like throw it at.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: He would like assault peace, like truly like assault people.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: I mean he was he was not a Nazi uniforms
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: like not not trying to be like a joke, like
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: actually for fun.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah yuck, Yeah, okay.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like mine is gonna be a lot less controversial,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: probably not as intense, but maybe way more obvious. I
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: have like two or three answers floating around in my head,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna go with the one that I
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: think deserves it, because because I don't think that they
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: were a bad person for all of the I think
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: they made poor choices and did very theatrical like shocking things,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: but in general, maybe that's just because they just died.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: But whatever, But that's Ozzy Osbourne. Oh oh, so that's
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: my answer. I mean, he got in big trouble for
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: literally biting the head off of the mat, so that's
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: pretty intense, and just the way he was on stage,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: in his stage presence pretty intense stuff. I remember being
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: in high school and like being kind of vaguely fascinated
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: with him, but also feeling like as a Christian, like
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: I should not like this, like I should not be
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: into this, it's like bad, And it wasn't until later
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, he got evened out a little bit,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: especially with like Karen and stuff and having kids, and
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: there's the reality show that was like bonkers, but like
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: later in life, it was kind of well known that
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: that was a little bit just for reality TV. And
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: he was like a lot more of a normal dad
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: than a normal dude than he was in front of
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: a camera or on a stage. So I think that
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: the title of shock jock fits for him because he
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: was doing that for theatrics. He wasn't actually that in
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: real life from my understanding.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I would imagine, like especially those early years,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: like there's probably so many drugs and whatnot, and then
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: my understanding of Ozzie and I could be wrong, but
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: like he kind of sobered up.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 5: Karen actually helped him do that. His wife helped him
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: do that, Sharon, I say, Karen, but oh, you know
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: what I'm doing his daughter and I'm combining. I'm combining.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: So he actually had like a medical thing, I don't
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: know exactly what it is exactly, something to do with
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: like his like his metabolism that he was able to
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: take essentially three times the amount of drugs is like
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: a normal human and still function and not die. Like
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: he was literally studied by by physicians that were like
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 3: trying to get to like the bottom of how he
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: was able to take.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Did he just have like a normal sized body or
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: was he like he.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Had normal sized body, but there was like something having
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: to do with like his metabolism or like the way
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: that he was able to metabolize illicit drugs, specifically cocaine
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: and things of that sort, where he like was not
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: affected by it basically, so like if you took like
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: a normal dose that would like knock you or me out,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't even feel it, which is crazy. It's like,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: how do you not die? But apparently he didn't until
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: you know, old age.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: You got him the most commonwe there's one drug that's
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: not going to get you.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, lindsay, what is that?
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: This is Ozzy Osbourne whenever he was arrested for drunk driving.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: Lawn hair.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: Everybody, well, it's the Sailor's.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: Blues or yeah, the Blues, the Blues.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: Sorry, everybody everybody has done this costume at least once
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 4: in our lives. Like this is just to write a past.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: That's what what'sport?
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: That's buckey.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, it looks you said, Utah Jazz, and I saw
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 5: a little it does look.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: Like that, and I thought it does you know?
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: It was Meg, You kind of have the same haircut.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: Pull it back up.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: That's your next Halloween there it is.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 5: I could do that. I do Okay, more like porn
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 5: star blonde like you know more Phoebe Bridgers.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, more, You're not that far off. Though, You're not
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: that far off. You could do it, you know what.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: I could do that. I already know my Halloween costume
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: is going to be next year.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 4: Though.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Now you've got inspiration for the next thing.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 5: Then, yeah, two years from now, I'm going.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: To be so will be great, I will say, uh,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Ozzy Osbourne great pick he. I still remember the moment
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: that he died. I was in a car with my parents.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: I was in Colorado, uh And it was sometime in July,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: I think was when he died last year. Uh. And
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I was in the car with my parents and I
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: remember like scrolling through my feed or whatever, and I
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: immediately saw and it was within minutes of like the
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: first like announcements of him dying, and I was like, wait,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Ozzi just like died. Like I was, like what it
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: was just it was just like it felt like a
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: big moment at least in the music world.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: Of it's only a couple It was only a couple
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: of days after like his like lifetime kind of achievement,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: uh remembrance.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: But like he was he had just like done a
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: show like a month before.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 3: Like it wasn't like, yeah, I don't even think it was.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he had been chair remission or anything like.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like he had been in this place where
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: He's going to do He had been a long time.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Though he had, but he had done, but he had
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: done some stuff, which is kind of crazy.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 5: So he did. But even the show he played, he
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 5: was like sitting in a chair for most.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Of that show.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: He was struggling to catch his breath a few times too,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: but yeah.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: He was like sitting on like a throat. It was epic.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: But that's a great show to go back, all right, Mason,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: you picked Lindsay, you picked who did you pick me? Lindsay?
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: And that's right?
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: And then I have no idea where I'm going to
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: go with this because I've got about four or five
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: that I really like, but I'm going to pick. I
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: want to pick one of my answers.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 5: One of my picks.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think Alice Cooper. So I've seen Alice
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: Cooper twice live, and both times I was like, this
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 3: is so much fun because his show constantly evolves and
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: it really is straight up an act. It's not like
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: he is like pretty much the most normal person ever
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: in reality, but when he's on the stage, he is
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: basically doing theater and I find that so much fun
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: and surprisingly, you know, when you think of Alice Cooper,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: you don't think of like amazing singer or anything like that,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: but he's actually legit live Like his voice sounds so good. Yeah,
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: the snakes, the the like beheadings that he does on
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: stage and stuff that are all uh for theatrical performances.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 3: So much fun all across the board. So Alice Cooper,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: I guess I'll pick.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Also, I'm like, okay, so I'm not as familiar with
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Alice Cooper other than I like, I know he's been
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: a Christian for a long time. I don't know how long.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was in those earliers. I'm just
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: looking right now. Though he like hit like the first
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: kind of run of that band was like six years,
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: and it's like essentially like been like like there then
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: there was like nothing for decades and then like then
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: there's literally just like one year little stint since then
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: that they've done anything. So like he literally what like
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: in my like imagination of Alice Cooper, I'm just learning
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: this right now, like in real time, my imaginating imagination
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: of Alice Cooper was he has been in a band
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: doing stuff for decades. Yeah, and that's not the case
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: at all, Like he did a thing for a little
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: bit and then has been like literally like decades later,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: did like a little thing for a year, and then
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: like well waited a little while and then like a
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: little decade decade, and so that's it, Like there's this
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: thing not he hasn't done a lot.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: Actually yeah, he doesn't have like a huge discography or anything,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: but they do and they did perform pretty much throughout
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: that entire time, Like there was a couple of stints
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: there where they didn't, but like for a lot of
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: that time, like they were just like his bread and
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: butter is the theatricality of it, and that's basically what
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: he lives or dies on you know.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: So also I mean I'm mad. Okay, So his last
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: so he did his studio album called Muscle of Love
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy three. Looks like that was the last
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: like album, full length album, and then his next album
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: was twenty twenty five. So what is that fifty two
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: years later? So he actually released a full length album
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: last year, last July, so almost a year ago. Yeah,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: literally a full length album. It's his eighth studio Oh
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: my god, eighth full length album. No Virgine has more
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: full length albums than Alice Cooper. That's crazy.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: That is wild, isn't it.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: Actually? I think I have to look. I think under
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Oath has more too, Like fu length albums they do,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: they do.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 3: The Beatles, the Beatles, who are only around for likes,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: had more studio albums that.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize, like Alice like. But imagine, like in
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: terms of like the gap between full length albums, that's
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: gonna be one of the largest gaps ever.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, think about how many albums King Gives Her
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: to the Lizard Wizard would have put out during that time, just.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Like a record amount of record that it would literally
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: be literally a record amount.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: It would be an impervious amount of music.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Every Oh my goodness, all right, that's a that's a great,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: great choice. All right, so let's let's uh, we've got
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: our nominations. So, h lindsay, you've got great pick. I mean, sorry, yeah, sorry.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Meg, but I said, Lindsay, my bad.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Uh Meg, you said Ozzy that is a great pick.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean he's like classic shockrocker. Alice Cooper's
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: up there too, great great pick calling. Uh, Lindsay, who
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: did who did you say? That's I mean, like, I mean,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: come on, And then I've got the like weird little
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: pick of I don't even know if he really qualifies
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: as shockrock because it's like it's its own like it
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: does it does for category does It's like its own
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: de generated category. Though it's weird, like I feel like
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: I went.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 5: He's like the newer I think he's the newer version
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 5: of I. I.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: I hope it's like not newer in a way where
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: it's like actually setting your precedent. I don't think that happened, but.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: So anyway, yeah, I picked g G Allen, So all right, well,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: all right, we've got our nominations. Uh, let's uh, let's vote.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick. I'm gonna pick Gwar.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: Such a good one, Lindsay.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh sorry, I was looking out my dog. I'm
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 4: gonna go to Osbourne.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna pick Alice Cooper and that is
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: because he's pretty much the godfather of Sean Rock.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: Alice Cooper is such a good choice. I will say, Meg,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: I do not disagree with you in terms of the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: fact that he's the godfather. He is the godfather, but
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Gwar perfected it. So I'm gonna go with Guar.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 5: I almost picked I think, Lindsay.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Gar is they are so good at what they do
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: and as much as Alice Cooper like he clearly he's
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: done what he's done and he's the godfather. And yeah,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing you said about more about that,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, Gwar is just like their next level at
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: shock rock, and it's hard to beat that. So, Lindsay,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: you absolutely nailed that. That's a perfect answer.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one where the second you said the category,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I have to get this one in.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Guar is perfect, all right, who's our who's our next one?
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: I think to do.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: Was it me or was I last? You were might
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 5: have been last? Yeah?
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So lindsay what's your next category?
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: Originally this was going to be the al Them cover
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: that you most had to hide from your youth pastor, because.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: It was a good one. But then you said, oh,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 4: it has to be a band, and you completely threw
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: everything off. So now you have to pivot. Best be
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: a name you can't say around your your youth past
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 4: That is.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 5: A great category. I know mine immediately, immediately, one of
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: my favorite bands. Immediately, I know.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: You're stealing it.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, maybe maybe not someone else. Someone else can go first,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: and then I'll go next. All right, if you still mind,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Cannibal Corpse.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: Ah.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: I don't like him enough for that to be my
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: Like them at all either, but that's the one band
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: that if I was a big Cannibal course fan, that
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: I would I would never ever say that in front
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: of my youth pastor. Yeah no, no, This one might
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: be kind of quick because I mean, there's not really
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: much to explain with it.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 4: It's just like.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: It's not no, yeah, no, yeah, are you midwestern? You
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: are You're from Saint Louis, aren't you?
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah she is?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, yeah, I'm literally yeah.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 5: Can I go next? So no one steals my answer
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 5: that came to you. And here's the reason. Here's the reason.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: I know. Okay, because so this is my this is
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 2: a little personal information, you know, make this category lasts longer.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 5: This is my last week with my current students, and
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: then the woman.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: Who was on the maternal leaf comes back, and then
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: I'm doing just some subbing, and then I'm teaching summer school.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: And the students know that I'm really into music.
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: I'm currently doing a thing for my last week where
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: I play a song and they have to rank it,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: and then they have to give their reasoning for their
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: ranking without just being like it sucks. They have to
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: like say, oh it's too slow, or it's like it's pretty,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: but it's like not heavy enough or whatever. I was
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: looking through my playlist I had of like my favorite
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: songs of all time and being like, what can I definitely.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 5: Not play for them, and then I as I was
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 5: looking through.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: It, I saw the band name that I'm about to say,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: and I laughed out loud to myself like an idiot,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: thinking how hilarious would this be if a student ever
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: saw that I love this band and that is the
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: band fucked.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: Up sure a different man.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: Then I love them, and I hate that I can't
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 5: share that with certain people because of their band name.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 5: Like they are like hardcore adjacent, but not a hardcore band,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: And they're like indie adjacent, but not an indie band.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: And they kind of sound like drunk hurts but not exactly.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: And they have a female vocalist that meshes with the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: gruff vocals of the main guy whose name I don't know,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: and like they're they're int is like crazy, like like
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: so epic and crazy, like the indie music I listened
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: to in two thousand and six and seven, but like
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: it's but it's aggressive. Also, they're a phenomenal band that
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: I can't talk about as much as I want to
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: because I feel that.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: It's a great pick.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: I would have not had this pick back when I
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: was a high school kid. I don't even know if
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: they existed then. But if I were a high school
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: kid now and I like this band, which I probably
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: would have when I was an high school kid, you know,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: if this band was around, Uh, but they've got a
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: name that I know for sure that if Jesse or
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: Luke Cullen, if I were to say like, oh yeah,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: I like this band, they would have been immediately like appalled.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: Dying fetus is that like?
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: That's a good one, though it's way worse Uh Mannequin Pussy.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, very good one.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: That is a great pick.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: There are actually not a chance that uh and I
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: love them as a band. I think they're just incredible,
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: And there's just not a chance that had I been
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: a youth group kid, that my youth pastors would have
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: really been into them. So just by the name alone,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: So that great category, by the way, perfect category. And
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: also I think uh Manic would have been, at least
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: for me, not a not a band that I could
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: listen to just by the name alone, not even.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: From the first track on their newest album, I've Got Heaven,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: not even they have a line that every single time
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: it drops, I just crack up.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not even all right, Lindsay, I think that I
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: think you're at the last pick. So let's hear it.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, you thought I was gonna steal yours?
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: R oh geez, Terry Poppy now, okay, this brings up,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: this brings up.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: A story for me.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: So wait, wait, wait, hold on, Colin, before you say that,
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: let me just say this. If you had asked me
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: this question in early high school, that would have been
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: my answer. When I was obsessed with scat and like
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 5: big band genre.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: So I was.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: I'm a history teacher, and so I was. I was
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: talking about the zoot Suit riots out in Los Angeles
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: and and all that fun stuff. And we're talking about,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: you know, rationing for wool and all that, and I
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: was like, there was even a song about the zoot
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: Suit Riots. Do you guys want to hear it? And
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: I showed them that song, and of course I played
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 3: the YouTube video because the YouTube video is weird as
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: all get out, and uh, we ended up on like
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: this like weird track where they were like, wait, what's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: the band name? And I'm like, ah, don't worry about it,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: not a big deal, and they're like Cherry Pop and
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 3: Daddy's and I'm like, yeah, that's the name of the band.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: You know, that's just the way it goes.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Uh, it is what it is.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: And then I went on like this like tangent of
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: like all these like weird band names from the nineties,
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 3: and I was like, here's a band called Presidents of
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 3: the United States of America. Here's here's a band called
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 3: the Butthole Surfers.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 5: I thought someone was gonna say that. I thought someone
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: was gonna say, but I don't know.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: That's a good one though, too. Yeah, And and my
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: students were like just dying laughing because like, how was
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: this new pornographers too, yeah, yep?
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: Or the Psychedelic porn Crumpets. Oh yeah, the psychedelic Psychedelic
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: porn Crumpets, Yeah it is.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: Are you are you confusing the psychedelic furs with the No.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: There's a band called the Psychedelic porn Crumpets.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 5: Huh okay, didn't know that.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: Colin to tag to tag onto your story. And I
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: was a sophomore or junior in high school, I don't
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: remember which one. We were learning, uh, swing dancing and
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: my performing arts class, and we were allowed to bring
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: in music that was in that genre ish for us
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: to learn these dance moves too. So I I burned
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: a CD that had like swing ska on it. I
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: had Riot gear I earned Frenzy on it.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: Obviously. I also had Zoot suit Ryot and luckily no
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: one asked.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: Me the name.
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: I would be so embarrassed. I was embarrassed in front
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: of my class when I when when they noticed the
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: band name. Yeah, you know, I was just hoping to
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: like sneak it past them, but it didn't work.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: A couple of funny stories about that, uh with suit
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: hoot is a zoot hoot.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 3: Suit Ryot zoot suit suit suit like a suit.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: So a couple of weeks ago, there's a karaoke bar
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: that I go to frequently that you know, whenever Colin
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: comes up to Minneapolis, we go to. There was a
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: guy then please do you gotta go? You gotta go
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: mag It's great. It's just like classic karaoke bar. Colin
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: Colin and I typically go there. I go there quite
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: often because it's in my hometown or where I live.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: And there was a guy that sang that song uh
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: and did a pretty good job at it. Funnier thing
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: that you will love meg. Okay, So five Iron Frenzy, Uh,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: last week played a show in Minneapolis.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: Last week.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: There's a well okay, so not this last weekend, but
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: the week whatever. Yeah, so they play they play a show, right,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: and then Uh, Leonor stayed. The saxophone player from H
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: five ran frenzy. Uh stay human great, so she play or.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: She stayed a couple of days, uh in the Twin Cities,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: and I was like, we gotta go to this karaoke bar.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: So we go to this karaoke bar.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 5: Did Leonor go with you to karaoke?
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: We go to karaoke together. Okay, ready, we have brunch
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: that morning.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: Too, hate you.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: It was great, and we have Actually it was the
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: next day.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: It was actually it was the next night.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, so it was next day. So uh, Leonor and
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: I we go to karaoke. And the funny thing, You're
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: gonna love this mag Uh literally like a week or
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: two before, just for the hell of it, because you know,
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: this karaoke bar has got like their little app they
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: use or whatever, and you can like request songs there
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: and you can find out what songs they have, and
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: they're then they're kind of playbook if you will. I
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: looked up like two weeks before five irons, just for
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: the hell of it. Not that I was interested in
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: doing it, but for the hell of it. I was like,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: maybe they have some five iron songs. Looked it up
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: five five five iron songs. Yes, not just one. They
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: have five five iron songs. Okay. So I'm like, I
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: immediately take a screenshot text Cullen and I'm like, this
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: is crazy that this karaoke bar in the middle of
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: Minneapolis has five five iron songs. Like that's a crazy thing, right,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: that's a crazy thing. So anyway, I then tell Leonor
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: about this. I'm like, by the way, this karaoke bar
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: that is my karaoke bar. Like I go here, like
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: people know me that I go there a lot.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: He goes, yeah, No, I go there a lot and
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 5: cool this summer, I'm coming to visit you.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: It's the best.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 5: Let me.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: So I So I go there and I tell and
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm with Leonor and I'm like, hey,
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: by the way, they have a number of five iron songs.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: You don't have to do them, clearly you don't, Like,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to force you. But also like, just
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: know they've got the songs that you literally helped write.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: So if you want to do any song, crazy, yeah,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: I got those songs. And so anyway, she was like,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: you know, being like all silly, silly about it. Anyway,
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: here's what's funny. So I get there. We get there
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: like early on in the carry like when they start
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: doing carry Kate, and this guy comes in and he's
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: like double looking at her, and he's like a guy
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: that I've seen before, Like he's a regular, and he's
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: double looking at uh at uh at Leonora, And I
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: was like, what's going on here? And then he goes
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: up to her and he's like, are you Leonor from
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: Five Iron Frenzy? He recognizes her? Right, And I'm like,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: oh my god, this is the thing right now?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 5: Do you know this guy's name because it might be
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: one of my two friends that live in mine.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: Appo. No, he's not a guy. You know, he's not
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: a guy.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: I know some of the guys you know here. He's
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: not one of those guys. Okay, okay, but this guy,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: he's a regular at this Carryoga bar. Right, So he
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: he recognizes Leonor and he was like, you, I literally
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: was just at the show the other night. I have
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: to do a five Iron song if they've got it.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: And I immediately tell him like they've got five of that.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: I just looked it up the other night. They got
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: five of them. And so he he was just like, well,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: I got to put it in a request. So he
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: puts in a request right away, and he was like
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: it would He goes up to Leonor. He's like, it
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: would be an honor if you sing this song with me.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: And I like, I tell Leonor, I'm like, I've he's
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: a regular, I've heard him sing. He's a really good singer.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: He'll nail any five iron song. So like if he
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: asked you to do a five iron song, like you
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: should go up there with him. He's so good at this.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: So this is so he just goes up there and
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: he nails this five ron like he what song was it, Mason,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: what song was it? It wasn't o Canada? Like that
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: was kind of maybe the most popular one on there.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: I'd have to look at the songs again.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: He doesn't a five iron song though, And like you know,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: Leonor goes up there and she like does like the
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: back you know, like backup vocals, and it's just like like,
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't, she doesn't. She she's got her
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: saxophone up. She doesn't like say anything or whatever. But
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, Okay, there's like maybe twenty
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: people in this bar right now, and there's the bartenders,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, he is singing this person's
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: song right now? How often has this ever happened at
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: this karaoke or any carryer Somebody is singing a person
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: song like while that person is there, That like never happens.
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: And I was literally like ready to just like go
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: around the room, like, by the way, the person whose
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: song he's singing right now is that person's song, right
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: the person was not singing the song that's that person's song.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: And I was about to go around the room. And
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't do it, Mason, But I was like, that's
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: he did not.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: He did not send me a video.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 5: Did you take a video of this? Please tell me?
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 5: I know?
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: I definitely, Colin. I'm pretty sure I did. I took video.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: I have it on my phone.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: I also says, it's after we're off of this podcast,
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: you're going to send this me because it's amazing.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: I am equal parts so happy for this individual and
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: for you and jealous out of my mind that this
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: did not happen to me.
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, there is so cool. I told you, Colin, I
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: got it. He's good.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 5: Uh world Yeah five iron fan here, thank you very much.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Leonora was up there. It was made so cool.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: It was so cool. But like, how many times did
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: the karaoke bar have a person in their bar that
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: nobody knows literally wrote that song? And that song is
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: being something real? Don't I should know that?
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: It's hardly ever happened.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 5: Probably not.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: M I was on a cruise with my mom last
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: month or I guess a month and a half ago,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: and I was trying to I looked up Phoebe Bridgers
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: and they had nothing. I looked up Maggie Rogers and
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: they had nothing. I'm like, what the hell am I
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: supposed to sing? I ended up singing the Smiths. Anyway,
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: that's an amazing story. I know we just derailed, but
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, my my body is like reverberating right now.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: I was like, cool, I knew you were gonna like that,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: So all right, Well, I think wait, did we vote
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: on that last one?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 4: No?
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think the band name that you can't say
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 2: around your youth pastor nor let's make Cannibal Corpse.
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 3: Great pussy Lindsay had R and Daddy's, which is why
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: shared that story. What did you have again? Fucked out?
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to vote for I forgot Mason's already,
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 3: Mannicu pussy. That's what I want. Yep, I'm gonna vote
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: for that. I would prefer it.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna vote for Cherry Pop and Daddy's. Partially
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: because Lindsay thought that that was my answer because she
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: knows I like SKA, So it's a little biased.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 5: But that's my answer.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 4: I honestly thought you're gonna go mannequin pussy it for
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 4: a second.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay, I still vote for you anyway.
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 4: You know I should have just kept it. I'm gonna
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 4: go mannequin pussy all the way.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: Oh all right, we're gonna get a tie then, because
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Cherry poppin Daddy.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: All right. If it's the Grizz, is Cherry popp and Daddy's.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 3: If it's the Surgeon General, it is Mannica pussy.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: Oh we got the Cherry Pop and Daddy.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, nice, Lindsay.
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: On you now popping Daddy's. Honestly, I feel like that
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: deserves it, actually, regardless of regardless of like literally, I
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: can assure you this. I've looked at the Wikipedia page
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: for mannekin pussy. There is not a whole category on
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: the Wikipedia page for mannequin pussy about their name, but
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: there is for Cherry Pop and Daddy's so at least lindsay,
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: you've got that argument to be made. Yes, love it
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: fair so great name? Uh?
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 3: I think is that it is more Meg's last one.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: Meg, all right, let's hear it.
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have two, but I think I'm gonna go
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: with the one that came to me first because I
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 2: think the other one's a little too intense. So so
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 2: here's my last one.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 4: Band?
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 5: Uh wait, hold on, how do it? Okay? Most Christian
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 5: band that later became the least Christian.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this a category.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 4: Two.
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: Wow, we're on the same save weight link. I've literally
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 1: thought about this category.
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: Another way of saying that is bands that started as
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 2: a Christian but fell off the Christian label the hardest.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I've got one right away. I'm glad
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: to go right away, but I have to go last,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: so I'm ready to go.
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead then, Mason.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: Uh, I feel like this band. What's funny is like
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: I think there are like a couple members that still
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: identify as Christian, but like the members that are like
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: the most interviewed or the members that are like the
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: most well known fell off Christian so hard that that's
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 1: the way the band has become or how the band
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: is known. And they're also like the singers of the band.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 1: I gotta go with under Oath. True, they just like
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: they fell off so hard from that world, and like, like,
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: if there's any band that like just immediately rejected that
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: in such an even borderline cringey way, they did that, uh,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't blame them for it, but like they
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: just like they went that hard against it. So I'm
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: going with under Oath.
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: Mm hm.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 2: So I knew that someone would steal my answer for
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 2: the reason I came up with this category in the
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: first place.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 1: Partly because like, how do and you were? Like part
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: of the category is not like, oh, they were in
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: the Christian music scene and then were not Christian. Like.
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: Part of it is they were super Christian and then
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: became Christian and went like the opposite way. That's that's
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: how I think about it, and that's why they think. Okay,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: some of the early under stuff is like aggressively Christian,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: like aggressively Christian, and then they went so opposite of that.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: The other direction right, like, and I think about like
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: and maybe other people are gonna pick this, but like
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: Pedro the Lyon, to me never felt like as much
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: as they went opposite of Christian, they never felt like
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: over the stats, you can't you.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 5: Can't name two bandsson. Yeah, sorry, I can you already
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 5: you already gave your answer. Someone better say.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: That it's not a good answer.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 3: I'll go next.
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to help you out it is.
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it is a good answer.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 3: I will pick hawk Nelson. Oh was it, Lindsey? I'm sorry,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean. I didn't mean to snipe. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 3: I think, uh, you know, John Steininguard's story is is
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 3: pretty interesting and and in in the least tragic way possible.
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 3: Uh and I think now he even like completely denounces
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 3: the existence of God, doesn't he.
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's an atheist.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 3: Ye, so yeah, I might. I might say Hawk Nelson
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 3: because they were they were full boats uh Christian worship.
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: They were making worship music, and now they're not genuinely yeah,
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 3: and now they're definitely not. So yeah, I'll pick hawk Nelson.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 4: Good pick, Okay, I'm gonna go with a band. I
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 4: don't know if you guys remember them too much. But
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 4: they were putting out stuff through out like the nineties
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: and two thousands, and they started out pretty Christian. But
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 4: that would be Paedro the Lion.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, David Basin of course.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: Oh that was a joke.
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you guy your hair blonde for fun?
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 1: Or what.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 3: If it was?
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, you actually listened to Julian Baker meg.
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 5: Oh you mean like that one? She covered Pedro the
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 5: Lion song like multiple times in her live shows.
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wow, I do. Sorry, I thought that was
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 1: I think you're just like wearing that ironically.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'd have to have to go with him.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 4: Then just a few weeks ago.
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Pedro is a good pick.
• 2:07:56
  Speaker 2: I've seen him so many times, so many times under
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: the Moniker and just Dave Bazon.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I did their house tour two weeks ago.
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 5: What year was that, Lindsay, because I saw them when
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 5: they did the house shows too.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 4: Two weeks ago.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, theya he played under under the Pedro name
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 2: at Best Friends Fest which now is defunct in Vegas
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: and it was really amazing and just to see so
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: many people come out for him. But yeah, great, answer,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: and I was mad that Mason said him before you.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 4: Could Yeah can I can?
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 1: I say?
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 4: I have one lifetime brag to my name, and that
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 4: said as I was going into the Pedro Lion show,
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 4: Dave was turning around from his van and he turned
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 4: around and he.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 5: Said, I know you and he knew me, and we
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 5: had a cover waiting from like Twitter.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Well I'm sorry link. Lindsay single
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 2: handedly got Chris Walla connected with PD so forever. She
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 2: is the most famous person in my mind that I
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: am friends with, just for that reason, if no other reason,
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: for that reason. And and you know, when people get
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 2: famous and stuff, they like, you know, forget the minions
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 2: who got them there. Obviously I didn't attribute to Lindsay
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: getting famous, but I did attribute to Lindsay knowing who
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: the hell Pit is.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 5: And still to this day she mentions my name when
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 5: talking about PD. And I owe her all the praise
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 5: in the world for even breathing my name in that
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 5: realm because she talked about PAD with Chris Walla. Do
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 5: you understand how crazy that is?
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 4: I owe her my life the nicest guy in the world.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 4: It's like the best guy in the world.
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think we all owe Lindsay
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: our life, so you know, not just so don't don't
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: try to take all that credit.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 3: Night you were all say that, hold on, hold on,
• 2:10:06
  Speaker 3: what did you say?
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 5: Wait, let's say that again.
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 4: I was all of your mom's midwife.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 5: Except for how you're I think you're younger than me.
• 2:10:17
  Speaker 2: But okay, okay, so this is my Okay everyone everyone
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 2: answered yeah, okay, So now it goes to me.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 5: Well, my original answer, I had a.
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: Feeling that Mason specifically would steal and if Mason didn't
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 2: steal it, that Colon would steal it.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 5: So I have I have two answers.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 2: I have one that is a little too obscure, so
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: I think I'm not gonna use it, But my other
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 2: one is debatable. I'm gonna say it anyway, but it's debatable, okay,
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: and I think it's a little personal for me.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 5: I might argue I'm going to say, I'm gonna say
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 5: Reliant kay specifically because in their later album there are
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 5: little two zero songs about God.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, do I know this?
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: I have a song called God and their worst album ever, Yes,
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: but they like like Collapse Belong like those songs It's
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: a lot of them are like almost glorifying like sexuality
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: in a very like confusing way.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 5: Not I'm like a like passionate, I love this person way,
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 5: but like in like a hookup way. It's wildly confusing.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 5: Now when you see them live, they still play the
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 5: old look the older songs, but so does under Oath.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 5: They still play their older songs too, and so I'm
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 5: this might be a thing I shouldn't say if I'm
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 5: you know, on a game show.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: Trying not there, What do you mean? Under Oath won't
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: play the like literally, I distinctly remember this. On their
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: their only Chasing Safety album tour, they opened up with
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: the last song, which is like and they would do
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 1: like Jesus I'm coming home or whatever they they and
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: immediately as soon as that part of the song would
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: have happened, they go into the first part of the
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: first song, so they avoided that.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 5: Jason I was there too, I always had that show
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 5: in Sacramento. I know they are whereas like rliank K,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 5: they don't play their.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 2: Most overtly Christian songs, but they do play the like
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: more palatable Christian songs, but their later stuff is hyper
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: focused on love sex relationships, which.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 5: Was extremely confusing to me.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing, I think of the music was good,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: I would have been like, eh, okay, like whatever, but
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 2: it's not good.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 5: It's just very much not good and so like they
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 5: fell off for me.
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: Musically and lyrically, and so yeah, I don't know that
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: rliank Kid was my second answer besides under Oath.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, I.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: I will disagree with your take on like that they
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: got worse musically, like I wouldn't say they got batter
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 1: like I will say like here's what I will say,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like this country verse still take Forget
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: and Not So Down. I don't think is my It's
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: certainly not my favorite Reliant K album, but I do
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: think from a musical standpoint, it's their best. Like they
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: got really good.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you on that. I'm talking about Forgetting
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: Not So Down later on post that post. Anything from
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: Forgetting Not So Down earlier is incredible. It's like those
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: were very formative albums for me spiritually, but I.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: Don't think like they got that much worse musically.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 5: But have you listened to Collapsible Lung. It's atrocious, it's
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 5: it's it's terrible.
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 1: It's not that it's not their best. I'm not going
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: to give you that.
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's compared to Forgetting Not Slow Down, which is
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: like my fourth or fifth favorite.
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: I think Collaspable Lung is better than like their first album.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 5: Oh I hard disagree, but I also like very underproduced
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 5: raw pop punk. So I'm like biased and I'm probably clearly.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 4: We should go with the person whose music got better
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 4: as a less Christianity trying to say there's like this
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 4: guy like the nineties, I want to say, who started making.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: Lindsay, this is why we like?
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 4: That? Was that was?
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were telling me that, Lindsay, you
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: are a saleswoman. If there ever was.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 3: One, you are.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 5: Okay, we got we got the all of the nominations.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 5: What what are we voting for?
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, so we've got reliant k Colin. You said hocktails.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 5: Good answer, not bad?
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: Uh, Lindsay, you said Drew And then I said, oh
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I hate.
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 5: I have to go with under us because that was
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 5: my answer beforehand.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 4: I'm going with under us because like they also like
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 4: I have you guys read the book? Where are your
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 4: boys to night.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 3: No, I just got it.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 5: Someone bought it for me for for Christmas.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 4: It's so good. They like have entire like sections written
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 4: about how underreaths would be like having Bible stories on
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 4: work tour and.
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: Like her like, yeah, hm, they were so Christian.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 4: They were so.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 5: Christians, so they have to be hyper Christian. And now
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 5: they're like, let's pack as many swear words into a
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 5: song as possible.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 4: We learned the word fuck, and we're gonna let you
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 4: know about.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 5: Literally, lindsay, that's literally what their first song that had
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 5: the effort in it.
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: We just learned this, that's literally. There was like a
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: tweet that was like under or Spencer says fuck like
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: he literally is saying it like a thirteen year old.
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 4: I think it's for non Oh my gosh.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: I think it was like almost as jarring as hearing
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: souf Yon say fuck.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Well, it sounds like I win
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: on this category. However, I will say, okay, between what
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 1: was your answer between reliant K and uh I got it? Honestly, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: if we're thinking about the category itself, I think when
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  Speaker 1: you when you go from super super Christian to not
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  Speaker 1: Christian at all, calling you like, from an artist standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: I think John is really good. However, I will say
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  Speaker 1: John left the band and then became like an atheist
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  Speaker 1: right like he was not writing music as an atheist.
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  Speaker 1: So I do think that that kind of sways my answer,
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  Speaker 1: whereas lindsay, you've got a really good point here, whereas
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  Speaker 1: I will I'll say, I do think even like early
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  Speaker 1: of Pedro stuff, he was not like as super super
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  Speaker 1: Christian in the way that we would say like Under
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  Speaker 1: Oath was. He was like obviously like transitioning in his
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  Speaker 1: music in his own like faith in his own journey.
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  Speaker 1: So I do have to give it to uh Pedro
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  Speaker 1: Lion slash David Bison agreed.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's the second best answer.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's where I'm going. Although Colin, I understand
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  Speaker 1: your reasoning. It's just like the music is not the journey,
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  Speaker 1: and if it was just like John, that would be
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  Speaker 1: a different cure, different but the music itself is not
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  Speaker 1: the the journey. So I'm going with with David here.
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  Speaker 3: It makes sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so Under Oath wins that category, But
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  Speaker 1: I do think David Bizon slash Pedro Lion is a
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  Speaker 1: really great second.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, agreed, there we go.
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  Speaker 1: There we are, send us out our own, our own,
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  Speaker 1: our own uh gramming category worries.
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  Speaker 5: If you will well obscure musical.
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  Speaker 1: G Yeah, secure music for pamments. That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, you all are the best to hang
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  Speaker 1: out with. I really I like these categories. I think
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: we I think we should around with them a little
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: bit more. And I'm sure we've got plenty of I
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: certainly have my own other categories that we need to
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: get to, and I would imagine we've got some more.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe we can do this episode sometime again. So
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  Speaker 1: thanks for hanging out. We're at two and a half
• 2:18:27
  Speaker 1: hours of recording time, so we've got plenty of time.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: So anyway, if you are still at two and a
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: half hours listening to us, congrats to you. Thanks for
• 2:18:38
  Speaker 1: hanging out with us, and we'll see you next time
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 1: whenever Meg, Lindsay and Colin and I hang out. So
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for hanging out, and we'll do it again.