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Football at Four: One Final Look at Eagles Matchups, Injuries vs. Giants · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Footbar and board powered by the Inside the Birds podcast,
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  Speaker 1: Casino Resort in Atlantic City. Adam Kaplan's here today. We
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  Speaker 1: got the breaking news AJ Brown. He is out for
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  Speaker 1: the game. He has been officially ruled out. Along with
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  Speaker 1: a laundry list of Eagles. Let's dive right into an
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  Speaker 1: Adam the big news obviously AJ Brown. Today, Nick Sirianni said, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's one guy that doesn't have to practice. Well, they're
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  Speaker 1: not even waiting. He will not play.
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  Speaker 2: It's good. So let me give you what we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do here, Mike, because we're gonna give you all the
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  Speaker 2: lineup changes and listen to listen to our pregame show.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna tape it today. We're gonna put it up
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  Speaker 2: tonight for Patreon members and everybody else. Can hear it
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  Speaker 2: or hear it, you can watch it. You can just
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  Speaker 2: listen if you want. It's six am Eastern tomorrow. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll have way more in depth. But let me
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  Speaker 2: just give you a cliff right version of what the
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  Speaker 2: lineup is going to look like. So it'll be John
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  Speaker 2: Johnson starting for a jund and look like the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: are not a heavy eleven personnel team. They've been switching
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  Speaker 2: off and on depending on the opponent, but they only
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  Speaker 2: have four healthy receivers. So they have till tomorrow, which
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  Speaker 2: is Saturday at four pm Eastern, to add somebody, and
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  Speaker 2: most likely should be it should be Terris Marshall, the
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  Speaker 2: veteran receiver who had a really good offseason. They got hurt,
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  Speaker 2: they do it. Britain Covey, they could always do that,
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  Speaker 2: but he's been here and they haven't used him, and
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  Speaker 2: they also have Quest Watkins who just got back here.
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  Speaker 2: Ris Marshall makes the most sense. I know people have
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  Speaker 2: been pining for Britain Covey, but he's just a punt
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  Speaker 2: returner in today's NFL. He's really a punt returner, not
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  Speaker 2: a kickoff for Turner, though we can do it. So
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  Speaker 2: that's the first lineup change. That's the first thing we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see. Brenton Grahant will not play, which we expected.
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  Speaker 2: This is just a ramp up period. Despite what Vic
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  Speaker 2: Fangiol said, he hates the ramp up period, as he
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  Speaker 2: let people know, Jory Jackson won't play. Now, Mike, here's
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  Speaker 2: what we think is going to happen because the coaches
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  Speaker 2: will make that decision. But you're probably gonna continue to
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  Speaker 2: see which we have recently Cooper Dejean and as a
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  Speaker 2: corner in their base defense. When they go to nickel,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see most likely they'll see Dejean play nickel, which
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  Speaker 2: is what he does. He's great at it. And then
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  Speaker 2: you could see Keeley Ringo because that's what they've done.
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  Speaker 2: Now if the look Ringo, the one thing he has
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  Speaker 2: not done is get getting burned over the top. But
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  Speaker 2: he's certainly not look great. You'd rather not do this,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't have anybody else really might At this point,
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  Speaker 2: they've shown no comments at our guy, Mack McWilliams. He's
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  Speaker 2: really drafted to be a nickel player, but he can
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  Speaker 2: play outside. He was crosstrated training camp. Parry Nickerson is
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  Speaker 2: more of a nickel now. If the Eagles want to
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  Speaker 2: do this, now, there's a guy that I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it very briefly. Then we're going to move on.
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  Speaker 2: Ambry Thomas. He's on Eagles practice squad. He started for
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  Speaker 2: a bit for the Niners years ago. He's had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of injuries out of Michigan. The Eagles love getting
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  Speaker 2: these former forty nine ers draft picks. They'll have. Terique
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  Speaker 2: castro Fields has been on and off the roster for
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  Speaker 2: two years. Ambry Thomas has not probably been here long enough.
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  Speaker 2: But Mike, they probably have to add one corner. So again,
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  Speaker 2: they have till tomorrow at four pm Eastern to do that.
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  Speaker 2: But we kind of give the outline of what it'll
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  Speaker 2: look like at corner. The depth is the is the
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  Speaker 2: major concern there. Kim Jurgens is out. We expected that
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  Speaker 2: with a knee injury. With Jurgens, it should be Brett
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  Speaker 2: toatht he here now. Now, the good thing is Landon
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  Speaker 2: Dickerson has been clear to play with ankle and back problem.
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  Speaker 2: He does not have a game statistic designation. He will play. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the question with Landon Dickerson is we know he could
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  Speaker 2: play center because he's really good at it when he
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  Speaker 2: does it, he did in college. But he's nursing two
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  Speaker 2: injuries ankling back. Do you want him in that croptic
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  Speaker 2: position as a center that that that's what that would
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  Speaker 2: be the issue, Mike. And finally here Zezosi Lai will
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  Speaker 2: not play, which we knew. Vic Fandoid broke the news
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  Speaker 2: to reporters with a hamster injury. So right now, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: this is what they have. And then we'll give you
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  Speaker 2: one more nugget. We'll give you one more note. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's lt Son who obviously will dart he starts anyway,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Uche who will start. Patrick Johnson, who's done a
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  Speaker 2: nice job, Mike. I mean, ideally you want him as
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  Speaker 2: your fifth edg rusher and only playing special teams. But
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  Speaker 2: now John Campbell Greg co Sell actually kind of explained this.
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  Speaker 2: He really didn't. John Campbell really was not an edge
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  Speaker 2: rusher last week. He lined up as an add in
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  Speaker 2: defender against the run, kind of like Zach Bond did
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  Speaker 2: last year against New Orleans. When you first saw it,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't. He really didn't get any true edge rushes.
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  Speaker 2: They have no choice, Mike. He's got to play edge
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  Speaker 2: rush here. I know Vick would rather not do it.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, this helps Nacobe Dean get on
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  Speaker 2: the field. Nakobe Dean did look good in an extended
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  Speaker 2: time last week. Now, going to their their Mike, here's
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  Speaker 2: the problem with their practice squad. The only edge rusher
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  Speaker 2: they have who knows their system, they have two of them.
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  Speaker 2: This tightest LEO side this week. But you don't know,
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  Speaker 2: he's not ready Anton Powell Island Mike, but they've already
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  Speaker 2: cut him once. So that's all that they have now
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  Speaker 2: is edge rushers. They're really thin there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot there obviously. So the plan without
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  Speaker 1: AJ Brown, you know, you'll see everybody kind of jump
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  Speaker 1: up one. And the question would really be last week
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  Speaker 1: we saw them kind of feature the pass. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of that was big plays to AJ Brown, So do
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  Speaker 1: you feature that same similar sould offers or do you
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  Speaker 1: have to now change your you know, dynamics and try
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  Speaker 1: to lean on Saguon Barkley. I get the giant team
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't stop the run.
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  Speaker 2: All that well, all right, so that's my next point.
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  Speaker 2: So their game plan every game, as it starts with
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  Speaker 2: the run game as it did last year, we know
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  Speaker 2: they're they're there. They're as great as their run game
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  Speaker 2: was the best in NFL history for running back to
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, it's been the exact opposite. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's been embarrassingly bad. As one leak Sour said to me,
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  Speaker 2: it's seventy five percent their offensive line in twenty five percent.
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  Speaker 2: Bark Land, I said, really Barkley. Why do you see
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  Speaker 2: it that way goes from watching their tape. He tries
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  Speaker 2: too hard sometimes because he's got that fever like he
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  Speaker 2: had last year. He just wants to break one badly.
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  Speaker 2: You can't press it. You gotta have to be very careful.
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  Speaker 2: And then look, Mike, the good thing is you saw
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  Speaker 2: Tym Bigsby on that one yard one carry for eleven yards.
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  Speaker 2: Will Shipley's healthy. Andrews check wh and I. We have
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  Speaker 2: a local radio show and we interviewed Will Will explain Kinmy.
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  Speaker 2: He'splained to us his role. They could lean on the
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  Speaker 2: run more. They could try, but Mike, don't forget Devine.
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  Speaker 2: They spend that a career day. They threw to him deep.
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  Speaker 2: He did everything. So John Matchi, who dressed but didn't play.
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  Speaker 2: He'll be the fourth receiver and Dodson has got their
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  Speaker 2: confidence of the coaches. But heavy twelve personnel, Mike, now
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  Speaker 2: Grant coup terror has been cleared. They still don't use
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  Speaker 2: cam Lot too as a tight end. They're using more
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  Speaker 2: as a fullback. I don't understand it. He needs to
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  Speaker 2: play more in line. But overall, Mike, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be heavy twelve personnel with two tight ends, two receivers.
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  Speaker 2: They'll try to get Barkley the ball early. But you're right, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: it worked last week. Now shot plays worked somewhere off schedule,
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  Speaker 2: but hurts through the ball unbelievably well in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Is about as good as you could see him throw it.
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  Speaker 2: But the issue, Mike now is before we get out
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  Speaker 2: of here, what's the hash rush going to look like?
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  Speaker 2: Do not be surprised if you see Jalen Carter play
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  Speaker 2: wide nine. He's done that a little bit lately. Broo
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  Speaker 2: Joma did it last season. And if he does that,
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  Speaker 2: you can see Ty Robinson play a little bit. By
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  Speaker 2: the way he slashed a little bit when he's got
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  Speaker 2: a chance to play number ninety five the fourth round
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  Speaker 2: on everybody's excited about. Oh, by the way, Nikobe Dean
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  Speaker 2: is an outstanding blitzer. You can do that with him.
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  Speaker 2: And look, Drew mccooba could do it. Degen could do it.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen him do it. I mean, there's certain things
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  Speaker 2: that Vic can do to be resourceful here. They're just
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  Speaker 2: down in numbers. Mike. There, my buddy Jordan Roannon said,
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  Speaker 2: and I totally forgot that's the game. Two weeks ago
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  Speaker 2: that queen. Now Mitchell got hurt, he's fine, obviously, he's
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  Speaker 2: not even on the injury report this week might start
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  Speaker 2: off the week, but it's going to be hard, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: It's not quite what we were thinking during the week
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  Speaker 2: and the dreaded pop up injury with aj brown Man
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  Speaker 2: that it sucked for fantasy A J. Brown started getting going,
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  Speaker 2: then he doesn't play the next week.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and he just had Jordan on about half an
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  Speaker 1: hour ago here he talked about this, their secondary, their problems.
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  Speaker 1: They're just as banged up, if not more than Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 1: though Philadelphia is injured report today was pretty h pretty lately,
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  Speaker 1: but you know they're pretty banged up in this one
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, here, Mike, here's the thing, Mike. With the Giants,
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  Speaker 2: Paulsen de Deebo, the best corners out, Deontay Banks has
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  Speaker 2: essentially gotten benched a first rounder. It is not worked out, Mike.
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  Speaker 2: They're in trouble. Like So here's the thing. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like you have to pass more, but when you pass it,
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  Speaker 2: you should be more successful. So I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 2: seeing what the Eagles approach is because they have so
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  Speaker 2: many injuries on both sides of the football. It's this
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  Speaker 2: might be one of these games where all it's not
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  Speaker 2: quite what we expected for a good thing or bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, Mike, it's kind of weird. I still
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  Speaker 2: think they win, I really do, Mike. But you so
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  Speaker 2: what happened two weeks ago. You would think we're vengu
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  Speaker 2: would be on their mind. I'm sure it is, but
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  Speaker 2: it's with all these players out, Mike. Look, honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: was going to pick the Eagles to block them out
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  Speaker 2: if they were totally healthy, but they're not, and it's
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  Speaker 2: not easy. And and look, the Giants are super competitive
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  Speaker 2: despite the record. It's been surprising.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I agree with that. That's the big thing is
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  Speaker 1: that the Giants last week went on the road to
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  Speaker 1: Denver and had a you know, three score lead in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of that game. So they are no
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  Speaker 1: longer this pushover to not have aj Brown out there
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  Speaker 1: to get Jalen quarterback. He didn't play the last time.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned Queen Ya Mitchell. He went out the last time,
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  Speaker 1: but Noah Dorri Jackson. So we'll see it all unfold here.
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  Speaker 1: See if the you know the Eagles, their playing this
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  Speaker 1: week is going to be very interesting. Do they turn
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  Speaker 1: to saguon Barkley, or do they turn their attention to
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  Speaker 1: Devonte Smith and say, hey, we're gonna get you more
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  Speaker 1: involved this time around. That's what I'm intrigued by, because
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  Speaker 1: a debo being out is a big loss for them.
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  Speaker 2: It is Paulson Diebo's a good player cover from the
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  Speaker 2: Saints and Deontey Banks. It is amazing when when a
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff can't stand a player, they don't care what
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  Speaker 2: their front office things like. They won't play him. Brian Burns,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, is expected to play. He told the
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  Speaker 2: media there and he got some work of today on
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  Speaker 2: Holland won't play their their best safety signed the big
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  Speaker 2: free agent youa coming from the Dolphins. That's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, they are a big twelve personnel team.
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  Speaker 2: But Darius Slayton at times, by the way, he's been cleared.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's been an injury. He's been an Eagles
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  Speaker 2: killer over the years. He's their best deep threa at
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  Speaker 2: number eighty six. But graham Cano, by the way, we
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  Speaker 2: don't talk about kickers much. Graham Cano should be kicking.
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  Speaker 2: He's listen as questionable, but he took all the reps
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  Speaker 2: this week and they cut the kid before mctammany who's
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  Speaker 2: back on the practice squat, So they're gonna know back
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  Speaker 2: who's been hurt a lot in his career. But this
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  Speaker 2: is an intriguing game, whether it's gonna be good in
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  Speaker 2: mid fifties very little win here at the link. I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe I'm saying this, Mike, but I'm sort of
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  Speaker 2: intrigued by this game.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean well, and listen, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: this earlier before you got to get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Dallas is a dog this week, Washington's a dog. If
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  Speaker 1: you could win this game, you would separate yourself by
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  Speaker 1: a couple of games now. Because the back end of
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  Speaker 1: the schedule after the buye. Yeah, not easy.
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  Speaker 2: It's harder, much hard Funny. I already looked at that
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  Speaker 2: because they got to buy next week. Yeah it is
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  Speaker 2: much harder. Yeah, you're you're absolutely right mate.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Adam kappled everybody at quick football at four
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  Speaker 1: here on the Sports Bush Bash. The big news. AJ
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  Speaker 1: Brown is out. Thanks Adam, thank you,