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Malcolm “The Machine” Wellmaker Breaks Down MMA vs Boxing Debate · The Baller Alert Show

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  Speaker 1: It sounds like you rarely just whoop somebody. I'm interesting
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  Speaker 1: to get it that bro, I'm not like somebody wooped.
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  Speaker 1: I get this last fight.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to ask you this question, but I always
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: wanted to interview a fighter to ask this question. Do
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  Speaker 2: you just want to fight people all the time? Or
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  Speaker 2: can you control yourself to where you know, sometimes a
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  Speaker 2: situation you can get mad at a specific situation and
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  Speaker 2: control yourself there and then take it out in the
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  Speaker 2: ring when you fight somebody else, or it's it depends.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's like an evolution a lot of
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  Speaker 3: us go through because like I was a hot head
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  Speaker 3: growing up, you know what I mean. I got in
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  Speaker 3: the fight and like, oh I can handle myself. I
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  Speaker 3: love to bang and like do all that stuff. But
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  Speaker 3: like as you get better, you know, especially as a
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  Speaker 3: martial artist, you have to mature to compete at the
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  Speaker 3: highest levels.
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  Speaker 1: It's so much more of fight IQ involved and.
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  Speaker 3: Now like IQ, yeah, now my desire to fight is
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  Speaker 3: not just rooted in my desire for violence. It's like
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  Speaker 3: I want to be tested. I want to be challenged.
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  Speaker 3: I want to show the world how good I am.
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  Speaker 3: I want to you know, feel that feeling of the
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  Speaker 3: adversity and.
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  Speaker 1: The challenge in front of me.
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  Speaker 3: So a little bit of both, but much less of
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  Speaker 3: the hot headed, young, young young bull stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now one more question, who has the highest fight IQ
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  Speaker 2: that you've seen as a fighter?
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  Speaker 3: I mean you talking about that I met personally or
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  Speaker 3: all the time, I don't know. I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 3: Floyd bro Like I got to give him his respect,
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  Speaker 3: I mean even and I say that because he one
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  Speaker 3: of the first fighters that I watched, you know, on
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  Speaker 3: a deeper level, as far as a lot of interviews,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of you know, documentary and different content like that,
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  Speaker 3: where the one thing he said was his most valuable
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  Speaker 3: trait was fight i Q. Like a lot of other
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  Speaker 3: fighters will be like, oh my jab's great, my counterfighting
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  Speaker 3: is great, my time is great, my cardio work harder
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  Speaker 3: than everybody. Yeah, he say all that, but like the
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  Speaker 3: one thing that he said that made him who he
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  Speaker 3: is is fight out.
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  Speaker 1: He can make an adjustments on the fly.
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  Speaker 3: And so I feel like it's it's Floyd, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure there's other people that's the greatest time as well.
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  Speaker 4: Push you up in the robbery with for Robert and
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  Speaker 4: traffic Sliine. Welcome to the Greatest shown Earth. Yeah it's
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  Speaker 4: it's the Bottle of Alert. Welcome to the Greatest shown
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  Speaker 4: Yeah it's the Battle Alert.
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  Speaker 5: Broadcast live from the Nago Love Firm Studios. I go
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  Speaker 5: by the name of Ferrari Simers. I go by the
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  Speaker 5: name you know, BT.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Ball Alert Show, Malcolm the Machine, Well
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  Speaker 2: make her to do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to the show. What's going on.
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  Speaker 2: I've been waiting on this interview because when we are
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  Speaker 2: done with the interview, I need some tips because I'm
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  Speaker 2: trying to get the Rari. Now that's a Paul to
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  Speaker 2: get some tips making my ra gut go away.
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  Speaker 1: That's all that's crazy. I got you, bro, I got you, bro,
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  Speaker 1: and I know you know I can make it happen.
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  Speaker 5: I need I need a good food, so I need
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  Speaker 5: to work out playing shut up? How you doing, my brother.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good, bro. I'm happy to be here, man, glad
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  Speaker 1: to link up with y'all. Danny put me on with y'all.
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  Speaker 2: You know Danny's you know that we we we are
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  Speaker 2: Danny Nagel Law Firm employees.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, oh really, yeah, I didn't know that. You hear
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  Speaker 1: the Nago Law Firm Studios.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's all, Okay, Danny understood, understood.
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  Speaker 1: I like that shirt though, Man appreciate it. Brother appreciated
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  Speaker 1: Malcolm X Man.
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  Speaker 3: He I read his autobiography probably like maybe like five
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  Speaker 3: or six years ago, probably one of the only books
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  Speaker 3: I really really enjoyed, but it was it was powerful man,
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  Speaker 3: and ended up embracing his law about a year or
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  Speaker 3: two ago in Yeah Man, love him.
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  Speaker 1: Man. So you've been faster? Yeah, I'm fast right now?
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  Speaker 1: How hard is it that? Too fast?
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  Speaker 2: Is it entered fasting or is it so?
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  Speaker 3: It's just the daylight hours. So right now we're fastening
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  Speaker 3: from about six am to six thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Pm up to sunrock Yeah, sturdy daylight.
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  Speaker 3: I was that's it up sun up the sundown, and
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's tough, especially as an athlete, you know, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Can imagine because you still have to work out and everything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. But last year I did it.
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  Speaker 3: I was working in construction, so it was harder than
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  Speaker 3: but you know, I can't complain.
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  Speaker 1: It's good.
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  Speaker 5: How was it like going from construction to now UFC? Right, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: you'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Life's good, brofe was good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's real real.
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  Speaker 3: Before you know, I'm working, working full time, and I
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  Speaker 3: was fighting locally and it's like for the love of
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  Speaker 3: the game and you hoping that one day you make it.
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  Speaker 1: But now, like you know, my bills paid.
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  Speaker 3: I wake up at you know, a decent time, going workout,
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  Speaker 3: have some downtime. The time is year to wake up
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  Speaker 3: really about nine ten o'clock whenever the wake up hit
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  Speaker 3: us with the four.
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  Speaker 1: Am no no, no no. I mean well right.
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  Speaker 3: Now for fasting, like I'm waking up around five am
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  Speaker 3: and going and lifting. But typically, you know, I wake
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  Speaker 3: up whenever my baby wake up, and that's like nine
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  Speaker 3: ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: We chill. We have a good time. You got a
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  Speaker 1: good scheduling. It's great.
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  Speaker 5: Still your baby schedule a little bit, hector, yeah, man, listen.
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  Speaker 2: Man, five kids, man, five kids, bro, four daughters, one boy.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, at least you got one boy though. You
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  Speaker 1: got the boy.
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  Speaker 2: You know the boys in the middle. Oh, okay, okay,
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  Speaker 2: my last two are younger and their girls. Yes, I
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  Speaker 2: got a son.
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  Speaker 1: My first one is son. I'm good, you know.
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  Speaker 2: My first one was a daughter. My first two was daughters.
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  Speaker 3: If I had daughters, I have to keep going till
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  Speaker 3: I got a son. I ain't good.
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  Speaker 2: Daughters take care of their dads, though. Daughters are very
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  Speaker 2: Daughters are very special preachers on the planet to their dads,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you're for sure, they make you very emotional.
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  Speaker 2: Your son, you're not really that emotional. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why we do that, because we should be. It's very
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  Speaker 2: very important that he understands his emotions because then that
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  Speaker 2: could lead to other issues later in life. I'm learning
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  Speaker 2: that as a forty three year old man now though,
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  Speaker 2: but we always learn it though. Yeah, for sure, going
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  Speaker 2: to stop now, when's your next fight?
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  Speaker 3: Hopefully April. I was talking to my manager. That's what
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  Speaker 3: we're looking at. We're seeing what they're working on. It's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of how do you decide? That's what I
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  Speaker 3: was about to say.
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  Speaker 4: Bro.
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  Speaker 3: It's so many moving parts to the fight game, especially
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  Speaker 3: at this level when it's a business. You know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like they it's so much to them trying
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  Speaker 3: to make sure they're developing talent. Talent, they have a storyline,
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  Speaker 3: they're putting you on a card where they can place
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  Speaker 3: you where they get infused, and you know they have
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  Speaker 3: to like distribute they talent the right way.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's more than I care to know, because honestly.
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  Speaker 2: You never do a fight, bro You just want to
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  Speaker 2: fight anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to fight bro to. But I see.
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  Speaker 2: The more wins that people get, the less inclined they
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  Speaker 2: are to fight anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, well, I don't know if you notice, but like
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  Speaker 3: my last fight, I thought somebody on forty eight Hours
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  Speaker 3: noticed like it was like ridiculous, and I had an
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  Speaker 3: undefeated record at the time and that was my first loss.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was a bunch of curveballs going on.
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  Speaker 3: But like I say that to say, like maybe it's foolish,
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  Speaker 3: but like that's how I am.
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  Speaker 1: Bro I, I.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you don't care about the record.
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  Speaker 5: That's why you don't care about your business talking about
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  Speaker 5: because he's like listen, man, yeah, you know, because you
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  Speaker 5: even see, like like Rober saying, the more wins that
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  Speaker 5: people have, the more like I feel like business comes
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  Speaker 5: into place like we don't really want you to fight
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  Speaker 5: that person, or you know, like it doesn't make business
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  Speaker 5: sense to jeopardize a record.
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  Speaker 1: We ain't gonna make that your body, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, yeared percent. I agree with it, and I understand
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  Speaker 3: I said about new word, I understand it now.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was. It was a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot to get my head wrapped around, man,
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  Speaker 3: But you know it's it's a blessing in the curse.
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  Speaker 3: It's more money involved, you know, I mean, more attention.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot more payoff when I win my fights.
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  Speaker 3: But it's times like these. We was like, man, I
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  Speaker 3: wish they'd just go ahead and get me something, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: So it sounds like you rare just whoop somebody in
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  Speaker 5: that bro, I'm not like somebody getting whooped. I did
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  Speaker 5: his last fight.
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  Speaker 2: I hate to ask you this question, but I always
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  Speaker 2: wanted to interview a fighter to ask this question. Do
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  Speaker 2: you just want to people all the time, or can
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  Speaker 2: you control yourself to where you know, sometimes a situation
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  Speaker 2: you can get mad at a specific situation and control
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  Speaker 2: yourself there and then take it out in the ring
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  Speaker 2: when you fight somebody else, or.
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  Speaker 1: It's it depends.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it's like an evolution a lot of
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: us go through because like I was a hot head
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  Speaker 3: growing up, you know what I mean. I got in
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  Speaker 3: the and like, oh I can handle myself. I love
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  Speaker 3: to bang and.
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  Speaker 1: Like do all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: But like, as you get better, you know, especially as
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  Speaker 3: a martial artist, you have to mature to compete at
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  Speaker 3: the highest levels.
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  Speaker 1: It's so much more fight IQ involved and now like IQ.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now, my desire to fight is not just rooted
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  Speaker 3: in my desire for violence. It's like I want to
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  Speaker 3: be tested, I want to be challenged. I want to
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  Speaker 3: show the world how good I am. I want to
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: you know, feel that feeling of the adversity and the
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: challenge in front of me. So a little bit of both,
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  Speaker 3: but much less of the hot headed, young, young young
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  Speaker 3: bull stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Now one more question, who has the highest fight IQ
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  Speaker 2: that you've seen as a fighter?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're talking about that I met personally or
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  Speaker 3: could be all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I guess Floyd bro Like I got to
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  Speaker 3: give him his respect, I mean even and I say
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  Speaker 3: that because he one of the first fighters that I watched,
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  Speaker 3: you know, on a deeper level, as far as a
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  Speaker 3: lot of interviews, a lot of you know, documentary and
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  Speaker 3: different content like that, where the one thing he said
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  Speaker 3: was his most valuable trait was fight.
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  Speaker 1: I q like a lot of other.
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  Speaker 3: Fighters will be like, oh my jab's great, my counterfighting
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  Speaker 3: is great, my time is great, my cardio work harder
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  Speaker 3: than everybody. Yeah, he say all that, but like the
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  Speaker 3: one thing that he said that made him.
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  Speaker 1: Who he is is fight out. He can make an
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  Speaker 1: adjustments on the fly.
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  Speaker 3: And so I feel like it's it's Floyd, but I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure there's other people just as great as him as well.
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  Speaker 5: Now they're trying to say he's coming out of retirement
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  Speaker 5: because well he's coming out of They're saying he's coming
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  Speaker 5: out of retirement because he needs the money for the fight.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, bro I don't know. It's always those
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  Speaker 3: kind of rumors jumping around. You know, you see his
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  Speaker 3: name and headlines about not thinking by the way, but
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  Speaker 3: this is what I will say. It's broken all broke though,
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  Speaker 3: you know, right, yeah he got a few ms. He
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: might feel like he broke and if we had a few,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, life is good. So I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know his situation. Maybe he do feel like
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  Speaker 3: he want a little bit more in his reserves. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: but for him, it's easy money. He coming back, coming
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  Speaker 3: back and fighting.
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  Speaker 2: What maney or, I don't want to see that though,
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  Speaker 2: you say, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Watching everybody he gonna make That's what I'm saying. For him.
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  Speaker 1: Why not, That's what I'm saying. Why would you not
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  Speaker 1: go on the rings?
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  Speaker 2: You guys think that they gave him an offer he
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: couldn't refuse, so he was like, all right, cool, I'll
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: I think all his.
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  Speaker 2: Offers are hard to refuse. Yeah, the type of money
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  Speaker 2: he assuming that he's gonna be fifty one to know,
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  Speaker 2: because is this counting as a professional fighter, Yes, if
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  Speaker 2: you come out, he's doing fifty one.
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  Speaker 1: Because this is not an exhibition fight right now. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's not all.
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  Speaker 2: It's so he's gonna be fifty one of those we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be bro okay's.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna be man? You think so? Absolutely? Man.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, when money like this, that's what I think, Uh,
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  Speaker 5: fighting gets tricky because when that type of money.
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  Speaker 1: Is on the line. We talked about business.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's like, hey man, you know we can
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  Speaker 5: dance around the ring a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Let me know when you get tired. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. Because Floyd to get knocked out in that fight.
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  Speaker 1: Put it like that.
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  Speaker 2: I've been watching Floyd for a long time. When he
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  Speaker 2: knocked many out, he did he knock.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: Out, made knocked out before that fight. Yeah it was bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when he was in the sleep. Okay, So
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  Speaker 2: Floyd didn knock him out, you know.
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  Speaker 5: You know when they talk beat him decisively though, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that money get involved. Man, ain't nobody getting knocked out
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  Speaker 5: no more. We're gonna see that sure.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I heard rumors about where uh where Anthony Joshua and
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: Jake Paul that like Jake Jake Paul wasn't supposed to
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: get physically hurt like the way that he did with
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: the broken jawn that it was. It was like, hey,
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: problems behind the scenes about you see that josh and
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: you see that.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much youth is you see that
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: punch that was John two places? Yeah, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of surgery. He had to have cerch on
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  Speaker 1: his face.
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  Speaker 3: And I've heard rumors that Anthony Joshua was not supposed
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: to injure him to that point, So it might be.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: Some stuff going on behind closed doors. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: that's what That's what I'm saying. With the with the money,
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  Speaker 1: mega money, That's what I'm saying. It's like Floyd and
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  Speaker 1: many pack you off in the day.
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  Speaker 2: I want my job broke BROI that ship.
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: And it's like and it's like, all right, if were
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: making fifty million dollars a fight, you may tell me.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: Your manager not gonna be like, Hey, we're gonna dance.
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: You don't get this fifty million, were gonna dan believe
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: it and we're gonna go celebrate after this.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: Crawford just did an interview with Joe Rogan and he
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: said that he thinks Tyson and Uh Jake Paul was scripted.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: I think too. I think too.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Tyon is a different that warm up stuff that Tyson
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  Speaker 2: was doing. I was like, ain't no way he Jake
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  Speaker 2: Paul gonna last that.
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  Speaker 1: That fight, wasn't it broke? Looking for all?
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  Speaker 5: Tyson was tired after the first round. Absolutely like Jake
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  Speaker 5: Paul could have knocked him out.
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  Speaker 2: He's my favorite boxer. I remember growing up in the
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: eighties watching him. I was just like, he is anal.
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  Speaker 5: His workouts made him look like he was about to
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: do something. And then when I was like, I'm like, Dade,
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: I forget he owed sixty.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, yeah he's in shape though he's in shape
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  Speaker 1: for a sixty year old. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But I was like after the first round, like, damn, Jake,
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  Speaker 5: Paul can knock him out right now.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: He could have if he wants. I think he could
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  Speaker 1: have just off a brute strength.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Now in the UFC, you can kick. That's a little
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  Speaker 2: different than.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: You can kick. You can do elbows.
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: You get elbow, knee kick, all the most dangerous, just
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: many more dangerous, way more and more entertaining.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: That that's why I'm so popular. Now, I gotta ask
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: you all this.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Have y'all seen the discourse between Terrence Crawford and Joaquin Buckley.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: H so, uh, I guess Joaquin Buckley went on a
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: live and addressed your course Stevenson and Terrence Crawford, and
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  Speaker 3: he was he was pretty uh aggressive.
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: With the words he was using, but he was mad
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  Speaker 1: that you cour said.
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  Speaker 3: He thinks boxing is more entertaining and higher level fighting
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: than m M A JOA King.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Buckley is an mm A fighter fighter.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: He'd knocked a lot of people out he was just saying,
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: it's not you know what I mean. And he made
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: this point he said, if we took y'all outside in
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: the parking lot and we thought, I kill you right,
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: And Terrence Crawford responded and it was in bad taste,
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: but he was like, they make switches for big guys
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: like you, and so.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Like it was like talk about it was this big.
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Back and forth between mm A and boxing community. But
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: I think it's almost undebatable. Like mm A is unpredictable
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: and exciting.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: For that reason.
• 14:42
  Speaker 6: Boxing absolutely because because when U f C, if you
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: went enter the fight, your record doesn't even matter at
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: all because somebody can kick you with a pinky toe, brother.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: And knock you out.
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know he was gonna do that change to you.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: You know you can only use these now. Somebody said, hey,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: we about to start kicking in boxing.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: It's never gonna happen.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: No, I never, bro.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: And and then like with that being said, you see
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: an m m A m m A fight across over
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: the boxing, but the box is not gonna cross over
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: because that's.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: What I did with the Connor made it look easy. Bro.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Connor mc bro and and Connor at the time
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: he was gonna be Floyd. He was pinnacle of nobody
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: in mm A ever had hands and knock out power
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: like Connor and.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: He ain't couldn't do nothing with Floyd. Bro, couldn't do
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: nothing with.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Because you can't kick and knee and elbow and that's it.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, And Floyd is the master of what master fight.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna get him, bro, You're not gonna get him, bro.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: And it was just it was just a big demonstration
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: of levels to boxing, you know what I'm saying.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: But in mm A, it's not even a question.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Floyd doesn't make it out of the first round, not
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: even the first round, one hundred percent. Mm A different
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: way different Like the highest level boxer, like I honestly believe,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: gets finished by like professional MMA fighters that nobody knows.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Like I got some professional fighters in my gym that's
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: not even undefeated, that like would beat the brakes off
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: your court just because like kicks, takedowns, chokes, Like it's
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: such a versatile game.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Man, Like it's scary.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: It's scary because you could be amazing at fighting, then
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: you might you might go against somebody who's like.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Grappling and like they Finna twist your leg up.
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: You're like completely different, not today. I never want to
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: fight with them type of people.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, bro.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: And then this is another thing, like your training. I
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: like your training, though training is way better than to
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: me a boxer in what ways. I just feel like
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: you guys training a little You're training your whole body
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: versus a boxer.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: You're just you're doing other stuff. But I've just seen
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: a little bit more aggressive training with you guys.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Cut no, no, you're good.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I agree, because there's two ways I look at the
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: big differences in MMA and boxing. Like boxing strength and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: conditioning like is very limited on the necessity for it
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: because it's not a lot of wrestling and grappling. But
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: in MMA, like I saw one of the biggest changes
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: in my success when I started lifting heavy because I
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: stopped getting bullied by the wrestlers, you know what I mean.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Like people wasn't able to keep me down, take me down,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: do what they want to.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: So, like, the training is a lot more linear in boxing,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: but boxing culture too is a lot more like selfish, right,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Like they hire training partners to come in ins spare
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: with them, they come in to gym. It's focused on
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: their workout for that day, so on and so forth.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: Like with MMA, like we have like a community and
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: a gym where it's like a bunch of team members
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: that are all sparring.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: With each other, training with each other, teaching each other.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: And I feel like it's much more of a less
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: lonely sport in MMA than boxing. Boxing just seems so
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: much more like focused on one person in an individual
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: versus mm A, Like, bro.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Those guys, my family, Damn.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: In MMA, the rain does not last long. In boxing,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you can, you can stretch out your wins. Yeah, Mma, brother,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: you got small. What's the girl? She was on top
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: for the while for.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I thought she was the best. Changed she got lumped up. Boy,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: she was like hell no, I'm there.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And then and then it's another thing too, like MMA
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: is so young that that was like a point in
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: time where the metal for the sport was changing. Like
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: at one point it was like the jiu jitsu and
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: the judo, and then it became the karate style, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: now it's becoming like the.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Or the dagger standis.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: For a while, like the wrestlers, like they was dominant
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: and now you got people that's like super high level
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: boxing with great wrestling defense, like the meta is constantly
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: changing versus boxing.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: For the medal was reached of years ago.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: They a good jab, good footwork, the defense champion, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: keep your belt, you know what I mean. But with MMA,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: like every few years like something new is being introduced
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and it's just completely changing the game.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It's crazy. I'll be scared to catch on them kicks.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I to watch mm A fights where somebody gets kicked
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: and shatters somebody whole shin.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I was like, I.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Get scary, bro, and it's and it's like you can
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: do it a thousand times in one wrong time, Bro,
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it's all it takes.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And like, yeah, you're not walking out of there because
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: then Conor McGregor break break his foot trying to kick.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Let it at the right the shin at the angle
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: split completely and.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It's like the fight doesn't stop. Then, no, protect yourself.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: That's a scary.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: It's like coming from what that fight. I said, Damn,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I think he broke his foot and then it's like
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: dude is like he on him, He on him. Man,
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: if that would have happened in boxing, it's like nah, broye,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: mm A.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: You don't stop until the reft pull you off of him.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: It's a lot more brutal for sure.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Now, how'd you link with Danny Nagel?
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So? I fought in Atlanta?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: My second UFC fight was in Atlanta again eleven days notice,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: crazy crazy, but I got a wild not just knockout,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: but the whole experience of that night was crazy. I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: walked out to oh, let's do it by walk a
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: flock a crowd went stupid, Yeah stupid. I fought, knocked
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: him out in two minutes, jumped on the cage, crowd
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: goes crazy. I do a post fight interview and it
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: was it was a funny quote where I can't remember
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: what an interview got it from, but I said it
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: in one of my previous interviews or something.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: He was like, we getting Ratchet to night and I
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we're gonna get Ratchet.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: And Danny saw that clip and like when he saw
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: me say that, he was like, I want to work
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: with this guy.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And so Danny reached out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: We had a couple of conversations and man, he is
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: by far one of the people I have a closest
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: working relationship and friendship with that I've I've linked up
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: with in the fight business.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Since I got in Danny.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Danny's already got into the beyond. Yeah, it's crazy. It
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: ain't never met nobody like him.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: So hopefully your next fight we can uh be there.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Bro, Please be to a UFC fight. Bro, you would
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: love it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Bro.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: It's nothing like Bro when you in person and they
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: got microphones over the cage so you can hear the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: audio and everything. But like when somebody get hit with
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: the UFC leather like four ounce glove, like you can
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: hear it, just like the crowd, the m m A crowd.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know how boxing crowds are, but mm A
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: crowds are just like a fun place to be. Bro,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: it's a great time. I want to go, definitely, Bro.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I'll get your information in there. Let's make something happen.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: BRO. It'd be awesome. Bro, let's be fun.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you the Machine. Now before we go, what
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: brought up that name for you? The Machine?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: All right? So I'm gonna be real. I don't like
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the name. I thought it was change the game. But
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to be real, this is exactly what happened.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: There was one guy that I was in construction with
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: before I ever did any fighting.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: He was one of the people that encouraged me to try.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: A real good friend of mine taught me a lot
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: about nutrition and lifting and stuff like that. But also Pops,
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: he's the guy who is the founder of figlers m
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: that I train at, looks like a father to me.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: These two people, before my very first fight, both said
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: to me they don't even know each other. One day,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: the first guy from construction texts me like, bro, I
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: know you should be the machine.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And I texted back a little. I was like, that's cool, alright,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I think about it. I was not gonna run with it.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And the day before my fight, I'm in the gym,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I'm cutting weight and while I'm cutting weight.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Pops come up to me. He said, I got it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I said what you're talking about?
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: He said, Malcolm the machine well Maker, And I said, god,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm the machine.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So since that day, I just been the machine. They
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: love it. I love it because of it, and it
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: is what it is. Bro.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you this, you whoop the right person's ass.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: You can change your name to whatever you want.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I tell you that that's right, that's right, make somebody names.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Listen. We hope to join your next fight for sure,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and we appreciate you pulling up to the Danny Nagel
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Law Firm Studios show for Simmons.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Is you know BT the machine, Kay,