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- 0:16Speaker 1: I do Part two.
- 0:18Speaker 2: I'm back.
- 0:20Speaker 3: It's your celebrity mentor and single gal, Kelly ben Simone.
- 0:26Speaker 1: I'm so excited today because I'm going.
- 0:28Speaker 3: To chat with a writer who's been featured in the
- 0:31Speaker 3: Huffington Post, Vogue, Oprah Daily, and she's got a monthly
- 0:34Speaker 3: column in play Girl magazine.
- 0:37Speaker 1: She's a woman.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Behind the viral TikTok account where she does woman on
- 0:41Speaker 3: the street conversations with real men called anthropology.
- 0:47Speaker 1: You cannot make this up.
- 0:49Speaker 4: It's Holly Sulm Hey, Holly, Hi, how are you.
- 0:55Speaker 1: I'm well, we got the memo. We're both wearing blocked.
- 0:58Speaker 2: Of course, all the all the cool little girls are all.
- 1:02Speaker 3: The cool girls. Yeah, how are you excited to meet you?
- 1:08Speaker 3: I'm I'm Kelly ben Simone. I I know that you're
- 1:10Speaker 3: your next model because you're really gorgeous. So we're not
- 1:13Speaker 3: going to talk about modeling.
- 1:14Speaker 1: But we are.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I'm so excited to meet you too.
- 1:17Speaker 5: I've I've see I've watched you on TV. It's so
- 1:21Speaker 5: great to meet you. I'm a fan.
- 1:23Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm oh my god, I'm a fan
- 1:26Speaker 3: your Oh my god, your TikTok is Literally I was like,
- 1:29Speaker 3: I was I just moved into a new apartment and
- 1:31Speaker 3: I was I was listening to them and I literally
- 1:34Speaker 3: is almost crying. I was like, this girl is amazing.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Oh my god, you are so funny.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Let's get into it, Holly, because you get a lot
- 1:44Speaker 3: to talk about.
- 1:45Speaker 4: I'm sure to say, yeah, I want to know everything.
- 1:53Speaker 3: So you're making this really really interesting content which is
- 1:57Speaker 3: thought provoking on the Internet and just literally on the street,
- 2:00Speaker 3: simply asking men why they are the way they all.
- 2:08Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you start making this content?
- 2:10Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a very simple question, but ilicit's very
- 2:14Speaker 5: strong reaction.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:17Speaker 5: I'm a writer and so I was just like writing
- 2:21Speaker 5: about my life very quietly, behind the scenes. Yeah, And
- 2:26Speaker 5: my lit agent was like, you should start, you know,
- 2:30Speaker 5: putting yourself on camera more build up your social media profile.
- 2:34Speaker 2: It'll help to sell your book. So I started like.
- 2:37Speaker 5: Kind of talking to the camera about what I was
- 2:40Speaker 5: writing and about what I was going through, and by
- 2:42Speaker 5: about about my girl life, being a girl, being a woman.
- 2:46Speaker 5: And it got like inundated with men, Like I got
- 2:51Speaker 5: all these male followers and they just they started sort
- 2:55Speaker 5: of infiltrating all of my socials, my sub stack and
- 2:58Speaker 5: my Instagram my TikTok, like it was just all men,
- 3:01Speaker 5: and I was like, ah, why are all these men here?
- 3:04Speaker 2: Like right, this isn't it's not for you. But after
- 3:08Speaker 2: a while I realized.
- 3:09Speaker 5: Like there's something here, like if I appeal to men,
- 3:13Speaker 5: maybe I should.
- 3:14Speaker 2: I should do something with this, I should lean into it.
- 3:17Speaker 5: So I thought it would be funny to make a
- 3:19Speaker 5: show for men. And then I was like, people just
- 3:22Speaker 5: want to see themselves represented. That's what we're all interested in.
- 3:26Speaker 5: So I thought, I'll just interview men about being men
- 3:30Speaker 5: and it'll be kind of like a funny, a funny bit.
- 3:33Speaker 5: So it started kind of just as a joke, and
- 3:36Speaker 5: like I just started going around town like with my
- 3:40Speaker 5: phone and like a bad microphone and just being like.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Hey, I'm asking men, why are you like this?
- 3:45Speaker 5: And asking them dumb questions about being men, and it
- 3:50Speaker 5: just kind of like weirdly took.
- 3:53Speaker 1: I love that.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I love when things happen organically and you can just
- 3:58Speaker 3: really tell that you were literally just walking up to
- 4:02Speaker 3: these guys and being like, tell me why you won't
- 4:05Speaker 3: date an old woman, Like tell me why you're you'res
- 4:08Speaker 3: in your late fifties and your age range is like
- 4:11Speaker 3: twenty two.
- 4:12Speaker 5: To thirty what so much of this stuff too, I
- 4:18Speaker 5: just like stumble upon, like someone like the age rage range.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Things started because like one guy said.
- 4:25Speaker 5: Something about, oh, I was dating this woman she was
- 4:27Speaker 5: younger than me, and then I was like picked up
- 4:30Speaker 5: on it.
- 4:30Speaker 2: It was like why do you date younger women?
- 4:33Speaker 5: And then that just turned into like a question that
- 4:36Speaker 5: I regularly asked, like what are.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Your age ranges on your apps?
- 4:39Speaker 5: And then I'm like why, And then you know, it's
- 4:42Speaker 5: just feeds off of itself.
- 4:45Speaker 3: I love the age range so much because like the
- 4:49Speaker 3: way these guys respond and like, listen, I'm like, I'm
- 4:53Speaker 3: I love men, and I like find I'm a twin brother,
- 4:56Speaker 3: like I fend find men to be really fun. Yeah,
- 5:00Speaker 3: but I just was shocked at how they how they responded.
- 5:06Speaker 1: I mean, I just was like, I was shocked.
- 5:09Speaker 5: I love men too, so like people think I'm like
- 5:13Speaker 5: some angry feminists, I'm a feminist and I'm angry, but
- 5:17Speaker 5: I'm not mad really like at men in general. Like
- 5:20Speaker 5: I love men, but I have had, you know, as
- 5:25Speaker 5: a woman, a lot of weird experiences with them my
- 5:29Speaker 5: whole life, as we all have. And I just was
- 5:34Speaker 5: surprised by how like men treat me a certain way
- 5:39Speaker 5: in the world with no cameras, and I was surprised
- 5:42Speaker 5: that it actually seems like amplified when the cameras are on,
- 5:45Speaker 5: Like they're almost emboldened to be even weirder and like creepier.
- 5:50Speaker 5: So like, you know, getting hit on by a man
- 5:53Speaker 5: is not that crazy, but the fact that they're willing
- 5:56Speaker 5: to like do that on camera. I think a lot
- 5:59Speaker 5: of a lot of men too, like think I'm just
- 6:02Speaker 5: like a kid with a camera, Like they don't really
- 6:05Speaker 5: Now they're starting to catch on because people really are.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Seeing the show, but it's a lot of people would
- 6:10Speaker 2: be like.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Oh, is this your school project, And I'd be like, yeah,
- 6:14Speaker 5: it's still a project.
- 6:17Speaker 1: That way, I'm dead you know, that is hilarious.
- 6:26Speaker 3: So I mean, I just I still just I loved
- 6:29Speaker 3: what you just said about how like being you know,
- 6:32Speaker 3: having the camera, like you know, it's kind of amplifying their.
- 6:35Speaker 4: Reactions and you can see that.
- 6:39Speaker 3: I just feel like, you know, these online conversations like
- 6:42Speaker 3: they they are that you're having.
- 6:44Speaker 1: Are just like eye opening.
- 6:45Speaker 3: I mean, you're just you are you know, You're you're
- 6:48Speaker 3: saying things that women are thinking and I just feel like,
- 6:52Speaker 3: what do you think.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Just gets under men's skin? Like what is it?
- 6:57Speaker 2: So I'm sure sure you've heard the phrase.
- 7:03Speaker 5: A man's greatest fear is being humiliated, and a woman's
- 7:08Speaker 5: greatest fear is being like, you know, murdered by a man.
- 7:13Speaker 5: And I think this somehow like taps right directly into
- 7:18Speaker 5: the vein of that is a lot of these men
- 7:23Speaker 5: think I'm like intentionally trying to humiliate men, or they're
- 7:27Speaker 5: surprised by my line of questioning that I'm coming up
- 7:30Speaker 5: to them. They think maybe, oh, this girl's going to
- 7:32Speaker 5: like flirt with me, and then I'm like, why are
- 7:35Speaker 5: you like this? And like they think it's they think
- 7:39Speaker 5: I'm trying to embarrass them, and they just something in
- 7:44Speaker 5: them short circuits. It's not there's so many men that
- 7:48Speaker 5: are so cool and that are in on the joke
- 7:52Speaker 5: and that they think it's so funny and they're fans
- 7:56Speaker 5: of the show, but they're not the ones that go viral.
- 8:00Speaker 5: Like I put those videos up too. I'm like, you, guys,
- 8:04Speaker 5: there's plenty of cool guys out here just you know,
- 8:06Speaker 5: taking it all in stride, but yeah, the ones that
- 8:10Speaker 5: really blow up are the ones that get super upset
- 8:12Speaker 5: and like offended by.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Right, how about the It's like it's I think you
- 8:17Speaker 3: have it pinned on TikTok And it's like the guy
- 8:19Speaker 3: is like, you know, just in his like late twenties
- 8:24Speaker 3: and early thirties, and he seems to be really really
- 8:28Speaker 3: offended by you, but then he's like smiling at you
- 8:32Speaker 3: and asking questions back. So I'm like, I'm like, is
- 8:35Speaker 3: he I was like, is he flirting? Oh?
- 8:38Speaker 2: Is that the guy? That's like, why the would you
- 8:41Speaker 2: ask me that? That guy? Yeah, he gets very upset. Yeah,
- 8:47Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 8:47Speaker 5: Again, like it's it's it was the strangest thing because yeah,
- 8:52Speaker 5: when I walked up to him, he was totally friendly,
- 8:54Speaker 5: and then I said that, and it was like I
- 8:57Speaker 5: could see like a cloud, the storm cloud come over him,
- 9:01Speaker 5: Like his whole demeanor changed and he was so filled
- 9:05Speaker 5: with like hatred and rage towards me in that minute,
- 9:09Speaker 5: like I had really pushed something deep deep within him
- 9:14Speaker 5: that So it's a little scary sometimes.
- 9:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely, especially like you're in public and
- 9:22Speaker 3: they're just kind of like getting like all a nerve.
- 9:24Speaker 1: You're like, it's just a TikTok video.
- 9:28Speaker 3: You're like you're not trying to like short circuit him.
- 9:41Speaker 3: What's the biggest takeaway that you've had after speaking to
- 9:44Speaker 3: so many different men, Is there just like one continuous theme,
- 9:49Speaker 3: like what is it that they are they're they're saying?
- 9:52Speaker 3: Because there they are saying something. I heard it many times.
- 9:56Speaker 3: I'm just wondering what are they angry? Are they just
- 10:01Speaker 3: mad about being men? Are they lonely?
- 10:09Speaker 6: Right?
- 10:12Speaker 2: I think it's all of the above.
- 10:14Speaker 7: I mean I think, yeah, I don't know where this
- 10:18Speaker 7: like thing. I do think there's something to do with
- 10:23Speaker 7: like the manosphere, like these men that have started podcasts
- 10:28Speaker 7: talking about how they're mad at women for whatever, for
- 10:32Speaker 7: not wanting to sleep with them, or because I think
- 10:34Speaker 7: there is, you know, some entitlement that comes with being
- 10:38Speaker 7: a man and living in a patriarchal society.
- 10:42Speaker 2: And I think.
- 10:46Speaker 5: To have their place being questioned is like it's really
- 10:54Speaker 5: messing with some people that I think thought maybe it
- 10:58Speaker 5: was going to be easier or that they should just
- 11:01Speaker 5: like yeah, that that life should be easier and they
- 11:03Speaker 5: should get things more than they are getting them.
- 11:08Speaker 2: But I am always like confused when a guy's like
- 11:12Speaker 2: men don't know their place anymore. I'm like what do
- 11:14Speaker 2: you mean?
- 11:14Speaker 5: Just like be like just so y'all, don't I know
- 11:18Speaker 5: it's so hard, just like do your be cool?
- 11:22Speaker 1: Just do you?
- 11:23Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not about being men or women.
- 11:25Speaker 5: It's just like about living your life, like why is
- 11:28Speaker 5: there a place in society?
- 11:30Speaker 2: But basically my whole.
- 11:32Speaker 5: Point is I think that's kind of like a like
- 11:35Speaker 5: a manisphere rhetoric is like men being confused by their place.
- 11:40Speaker 4: It's like, man, do you think too?
- 11:42Speaker 3: It's because like in the workplace they're now they're being
- 11:46Speaker 3: challenged with you know, with women and with all these
- 11:50Speaker 3: different variables. And then now like you're asking this like
- 11:54Speaker 3: very this question that you know men men recognize themselves
- 11:59Speaker 3: by the cars they drive, the work that they have,
- 12:03Speaker 3: what's in their bank account.
- 12:04Speaker 4: You know, that's how they identify themselves. So do you
- 12:07Speaker 4: think that like you're just.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Like who are you? And they're like what?
- 12:13Speaker 2: Right?
- 12:13Speaker 1: Right?
- 12:14Speaker 2: They haven't. I mean a lot of but I don't
- 12:16Speaker 2: think it's just men. It's people.
- 12:18Speaker 5: Like a lot of people just aren't terribly introspective. So
- 12:21Speaker 5: I think it like really throws someone off their game
- 12:26Speaker 5: when you're like asking this very like open ended, kind
- 12:31Speaker 5: of abstract question and maybe they're confused, and so that's
- 12:36Speaker 5: like frustrating. They just go immediately to frustration and rage
- 12:40Speaker 5: because they don't know how to answer it. But yeah,
- 12:44Speaker 5: I think men do you know, so many people do
- 12:48Speaker 5: define themselves sort of by their external world and what
- 12:51Speaker 5: they have and how much money they have.
- 12:54Speaker 2: And women, now are you know, we are we.
- 13:00Speaker 5: Had to work harder to get to where we are
- 13:03Speaker 5: and we are killing it. So I think that is
- 13:06Speaker 5: like intimidating for some guys.
- 13:10Speaker 1: I have a question to you this.
- 13:11Speaker 3: There's this concept of the male loneliness epidemic. Like I'm like,
- 13:17Speaker 3: wait a minute, wiremen alone, Like, what do you mean
- 13:19Speaker 3: they're lonely?
- 13:20Speaker 1: Go outside? Like you're the you're guy, you know, Like, yeah,
- 13:24Speaker 1: talk to me about that. What are your thoughts on
- 13:25Speaker 1: this epidemic.
- 13:26Speaker 5: I think it's just like I think it's probably real
- 13:31Speaker 5: among some men.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I think a lot of men.
- 13:32Speaker 5: Are lonely because they're just like they grew up just
- 13:35Speaker 5: playing video games and they don't know how to like
- 13:37Speaker 5: interact with other people, and they have just like poor
- 13:40Speaker 5: social skills and they're spending all their time listening to
- 13:46Speaker 5: you know, andrew utate instead of like going out into
- 13:50Speaker 5: the world. And meeting people, and yeah, it's it's people
- 13:55Speaker 5: not learning social skills. But I think people are lonely.
- 13:59Speaker 5: I mean women are lonely too. Everyone's lonely. We are
- 14:04Speaker 5: all having to learn how to live in this society
- 14:06Speaker 5: where we're like more comfortable behind a computer screen.
- 14:10Speaker 1: I know.
- 14:11Speaker 3: And I think that's a direct correlation from COVID. We
- 14:14Speaker 3: were alone, people were on their screens.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Dating and apps are bigger.
- 14:18Speaker 4: So this podcast is all about, you know, finding love
- 14:21Speaker 4: in your chapter two?
- 14:22Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think and do you think that women
- 14:28Speaker 3: should be asking men out on a date?
- 14:32Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 14:32Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think I don't do that.
- 14:35Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I am in my forties, so I
- 14:44Speaker 8: guess this could be considered chapter two.
- 14:47Speaker 3: And I and well have you wait, have you been
- 14:50Speaker 3: married before?
- 14:51Speaker 5: I wasn't married, but you know I did have you know,
- 14:57Speaker 5: a lot of life changes in my thirties and kind
- 14:59Speaker 5: of to start over in my forties. And I ran
- 15:05Speaker 5: up to my current boyfriend.
- 15:07Speaker 2: But that's because I was doing interviews, So.
- 15:11Speaker 1: It's really about me.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, why.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Are you like this? What do you think about wine?
- 15:19Speaker 4: Do you like it?
- 15:20Speaker 1: Do you like to have a class of wine with me?
- 15:21Speaker 1: That would be hilarious if.
- 15:23Speaker 2: You know your video. I wasn't hitting on him.
- 15:29Speaker 1: He just ran up to him and were like, you're hot.
- 15:32Speaker 5: But it really works. I do think so few women
- 15:36Speaker 5: approach men that. Now that I have like a job
- 15:40Speaker 5: where I approach men for a living, they love it.
- 15:43Speaker 5: Men love being approached by a woman. I think so
- 15:47Speaker 5: many men are so afraid even like you know, interesting, cool, successful,
- 15:54Speaker 5: powerful men, it's really intimidating for them to like go
- 15:58Speaker 5: up to a woman and talk to her. So women,
- 16:01Speaker 5: if you want to go up to men, you.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Can like they'll like it.
- 16:05Speaker 2: No man is going to be like, What's I.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Going to change the dynamic of the hunt, because like
- 16:12Speaker 3: so many men talk to like, you know, when I
- 16:15Speaker 3: talked to me, I mean, I'm just say on this podcast,
- 16:17Speaker 3: and I talked to men a lot about dating as well,
- 16:21Speaker 3: and on my new show, we're talking a lot about
- 16:24Speaker 3: my dating journey.
- 16:25Speaker 1: And I was in Palm Beach and it was absolutely hideous.
- 16:29Speaker 3: These men are like, hello, be nice, be nice to
- 16:33Speaker 3: me number one. Yeah, nice, Just be kind, Just be nice,
- 16:38Speaker 3: Just be kind like this, questions, ask questions, Ask me
- 16:42Speaker 3: how my day is, do you know? Just be kind,
- 16:45Speaker 3: Just be nice, and I just I'm just like, really,
- 16:48Speaker 3: I just would never ask.
- 16:49Speaker 1: I mean, there were guys and I was like, oh god,
- 16:51Speaker 1: is kind of cute.
- 16:52Speaker 4: And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm not asked.
- 16:54Speaker 1: Came out.
- 16:56Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody just came on my show and she was
- 17:01Speaker 5: saying that you should just like give a man like
- 17:06Speaker 5: a look and that's how men should know that it's
- 17:10Speaker 5: okay to come to you.
- 17:11Speaker 1: And I like, so like, let's just a look.
- 17:13Speaker 3: Ready, like's a world play, It's okay, what's what's your look?
- 17:18Speaker 2: I looks like this, Okay.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Ready for mine? Yeah?
- 17:23Speaker 6: Mine?
- 17:23Speaker 2: Like yeah, that's good.
- 17:29Speaker 1: They always say touch your hair.
- 17:30Speaker 3: If people are like your hair, I'm like, yes, I'm
- 17:32Speaker 3: trying to trash men.
- 17:33Speaker 2: You gotta like, yeah, like touch your mouth.
- 17:37Speaker 5: And you just well you can be like yeah, then
- 17:41Speaker 5: you start laughing, you giggle.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Exactly, winking exactly, and then.
- 17:45Speaker 2: The men know that it's okay to talk to you.
- 17:47Speaker 2: But if you don't do that, So let's just.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Let's just run through those because this is this is
- 17:52Speaker 3: an audio podcast, and just tell me like, okay, so
- 17:55Speaker 3: winking is good, touching your hair is good?
- 17:57Speaker 1: What are yeah?
- 17:58Speaker 5: So I kind of like, you know, you put your
- 18:01Speaker 5: put your head down and you kind of like look
- 18:03Speaker 5: up and you smile.
- 18:05Speaker 2: You got a smile. People need to smile more, man,
- 18:09Speaker 2: really a smile more.
- 18:10Speaker 4: But smiling smiling is really really good.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk about red flags because I think the
- 18:16Speaker 3: people think when they think of red flags, they think
- 18:18Speaker 3: of them as pink.
- 18:20Speaker 1: They're not pink, they're red. Red is red. Red is red?
- 18:25Speaker 2: Yeah, red as red.
- 18:26Speaker 5: But why would you even want to mess with a
- 18:28Speaker 5: pink flag? Like, no flags, No flags are good unless
- 18:34Speaker 5: it's green.
- 18:36Speaker 1: I know, I'm like, what are they?
- 18:38Speaker 3: Like?
- 18:39Speaker 4: So what are some of the red flags that you've
- 18:40Speaker 4: come across?
- 18:41Speaker 2: Okay, so.
- 18:43Speaker 5: Lying he was obvious, but you know so many people
- 18:49Speaker 5: are like, oh I caught him in this little lie, Like,
- 18:52Speaker 5: well then what else is he lying about?
- 18:54Speaker 2: Right? Lying is not good, even like lying about age
- 18:59Speaker 2: I think is really weird.
- 19:02Speaker 5: Like I had a guy that I met on on
- 19:06Speaker 5: Hinge a long time a while ago, a couple of
- 19:08Speaker 5: years back, like lied about his age and then I
- 19:13Speaker 5: like found out he was older, and he was like, well,
- 19:18Speaker 5: he got defensive and he got.
- 19:19Speaker 2: Mad at me when I called him out. Yeah, someone
- 19:22Speaker 2: getting mad at you?
- 19:23Speaker 5: Someone getting defensive defensive a red flag if anyone's like defensive.
- 19:27Speaker 6: About anything, and I agree, I agree, Like nom.
- 19:41Speaker 4: So what are like the positive things like that?
- 19:44Speaker 3: You'll be like, oh, he's saying that he's kind, And
- 19:47Speaker 3: then you're like, why is he saying that he's kind of? Like,
- 19:49Speaker 3: give me some of the things that you've you've you've
- 19:52Speaker 3: seen that like a petty positive but actually, and by
- 19:58Speaker 3: the way, after this, I would have write down a
- 19:59Speaker 3: whole list.
- 20:00Speaker 2: Okay, I think if a guy says he's kind, that's weird.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Why does he need to say it? Or like my dad,
- 20:11Speaker 2: I think he.
- 20:12Speaker 5: Gave me some advice when I was a little girl,
- 20:14Speaker 5: and he said, never trust anyone who says trust me.
- 20:17Speaker 2: And I'm like, you know, that's really true.
- 20:21Speaker 5: Like if someone, especially if someone says that unprompted, you're like,
- 20:25Speaker 5: why why are you saying that?
- 20:26Speaker 1: Why are you asking me to trust you?
- 20:28Speaker 5: Have you done anything when people try to tell you, oh,
- 20:31Speaker 5: I'm this kind of person or I do this or
- 20:33Speaker 5: I'm like this, like.
- 20:35Speaker 2: No, no, no, just me just show me, like be it.
- 20:40Speaker 3: I love that and consistently be it, consistently be it
- 20:44Speaker 3: not just like oh I was nice once. No, no, no,
- 20:46Speaker 3: it's it's it's an all the time kind of thing.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Yeah. Consistency is so crucial.
- 20:54Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 20:54Speaker 5: If somebody like is a certain way and then they
- 20:58Speaker 5: just like you see, like a glib or something like
- 21:01Speaker 5: very opposite of what of what they're portraying themselves as
- 21:05Speaker 5: run because they're just trying to hide something.
- 21:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I love that.
- 21:13Speaker 3: I'm going to add cheating because cheaters are.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Going to cheat.
- 21:19Speaker 3: If they cheated once or if they have cheated in
- 21:21Speaker 3: the past, they're going to cheat again. I mean even
- 21:25Speaker 3: if they say they don't, they they will do things
- 21:28Speaker 3: that they do not feel as qualifying actual cheating, like
- 21:33Speaker 3: emotional relationships. You know, emotional relationships are not physical, YadA, YadA, YadA.
- 21:38Speaker 1: But cheating is hard.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Now yeah, hard now hard? No, Yeah, Or somebody being like.
- 21:47Speaker 5: Being like cheap with you, like like anyone any guy
- 21:50Speaker 5: who's like split the check like just no sorry.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Or like oh my god, like literally when Palm Beach,
- 21:58Speaker 3: I was but I went on a date with this
- 22:00Speaker 3: guy and I said, you know, I was like, oh,
- 22:04Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, can you blow can
- 22:06Speaker 3: you pay? I do have my hair blown out because
- 22:08Speaker 3: it's Florida because event and he was like, oh, so
- 22:12Speaker 3: now you want me to pay for You're going to
- 22:13Speaker 3: pay for my shave.
- 22:15Speaker 1: I'm like, what, I'm going to an event for you?
- 22:18Speaker 1: He goes, I paid for your ticket. I'm like, ho, there, Nelly.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Now you're asking me to pay for a ticket to
- 22:25Speaker 3: an event that I did not want to go to
- 22:27Speaker 3: and zero interested going to?
- 22:30Speaker 1: Like no, thank you? Yeah, no, awful. I don't like
- 22:33Speaker 1: cheap because I'm not cheap and I do not like cheap.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Yeah, cheap is so on a track.
- 22:37Speaker 4: I would never split. I would never split a bill
- 22:40Speaker 4: for no.
- 22:42Speaker 5: No, I'll just I'll just pay for it and then
- 22:44Speaker 5: we'll just never hang out again.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, exactly totally.
- 22:50Speaker 1: Do men do good men exist?
- 22:52Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 22:52Speaker 2: Yeah they do. There I'm going to have to I'm
- 22:55Speaker 2: going to do like a features reel of like the.
- 22:59Speaker 3: Good man I've met streets here, Kelly, here's some good men.
- 23:04Speaker 2: They do?
- 23:05Speaker 5: The good men exist? You know, I you know, my
- 23:09Speaker 5: boyfriend is amazing. He's a good man. I was a
- 23:11Speaker 5: little skeptical about like somebody like really like ticking all
- 23:16Speaker 5: my boxes.
- 23:16Speaker 1: But he does.
- 23:17Speaker 2: So now I'm like love is real, y'all.
- 23:21Speaker 1: Okay, So where is this?
- 23:22Speaker 3: Where where do these good men hang out because I
- 23:25Speaker 3: need the GPS.
- 23:26Speaker 4: Like yesterday, I'm I'm going to be stalking them like
- 23:30Speaker 4: a spider monkey.
- 23:31Speaker 2: I interview like a spider monkey.
- 23:35Speaker 5: I interviewed pro skiers and they were all really nice.
- 23:41Speaker 5: I was like, why are all of these boys so amazing?
- 23:45Speaker 5: And yeah, the Olympian athletes are really sweet. Go for
- 23:52Speaker 5: the Olympians, Girls for the Olympians.
- 23:57Speaker 1: You guys have to wait for.
- 23:58Speaker 5: You, but not like not like athletes, like not ones
- 24:04Speaker 5: with egos. Right, I feel like maybe guys that are
- 24:08Speaker 5: like doing like really dangerous things like athletically have less egos.
- 24:14Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if there's one decispect
- 24:19Speaker 2: of men. Yeah, just like guys with egos are not good.
- 24:22Speaker 3: Holla, you are so funny. I have a couple of
- 24:26Speaker 3: more things to ask you on I do part two.
- 24:29Speaker 1: We'll be right back