Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Gordon Chang | Author & Geopolitics Expert | 05-11-26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Joining me right now. The man himself, Gordon g. Chang
- 0:04Speaker 1: on Twitter, the Great Gordon Chang, as President Trump gets
- 0:08Speaker 1: set to go meet Gee Thursday and Friday in China. Gordon,
- 0:13Speaker 1: good Monday morning, buddy, How are you?
- 0:15Speaker 2: I'm fine, said, and thank you so much.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Great to have your back before we get to this
- 0:19Speaker 1: big China visit. I'm gonna be honest. I took a
- 0:22Speaker 1: vote about thirty minutes ago. My guys are on the show,
- 0:25Speaker 1: you know, Gord, Lou and Noel and Justin. I said,
- 0:29Speaker 1: if I ask Gordon Chang in thirty minutes, which is
- 0:32Speaker 1: now the hunt of virus? Did that originate in some
- 0:37Speaker 1: wet lamb in China like the coronavirus? What do you think?
- 0:42Speaker 2: He says?
- 0:43Speaker 1: And do you know? It was unanimous four to four
- 0:47Speaker 1: said that Gordon will say that yes, this virus was
- 0:52Speaker 1: created somewhere. Also not very long before the midterms, good timing.
- 0:59Speaker 1: What do you think the truth is about this latest virus.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I hate to disappoint you guys, but I don't know
- 1:06Speaker 2: the answer to this. Oh. I mean, we don't have
- 1:09Speaker 2: any evidence that it popped out of China. Now, if
- 1:12Speaker 2: this were a bola, I would say almost certainly it
- 1:16Speaker 2: came from China, because we know that the Wuhon is studentroology.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Those friends who gave us COVID nineteen are now weaponizing
- 1:23Speaker 2: a bola, and we know that they're working on other
- 1:26Speaker 2: diseases as well. But hintavirus, You know, I just I
- 1:30Speaker 2: wish I knew the answer.
- 1:31Speaker 1: All right, at least you're honest. Let's get to all
- 1:34Speaker 1: what's going to happen on Thursday. This trip was supposed
- 1:37Speaker 1: to happen last month, but of course the Eiron War
- 1:41Speaker 1: made sure that Trump didn't go. But he is going
- 1:43Speaker 1: this Thursday. It's a big two day meeting with she
- 1:47Speaker 1: Trump posted on social media recently, President, she will give
- 1:51Speaker 1: me a big bathog when I get there in a
- 1:53Speaker 1: few weeks. We're working together smartly and very well. Doesn't
- 1:58Speaker 1: that be fighting? So Trump is telling everybody things are
- 2:02Speaker 1: all good. But I'm hearing reports that China is still
- 2:05Speaker 1: supplying Iran with weapons, maybe through the Caspyan c that
- 2:11Speaker 1: China is very involved in keeping Iran afloat in this
- 2:15Speaker 1: war against America. Does Trump not know that? Is he
- 2:18Speaker 1: just being very nice? What's the truth China and Iran?
- 2:23Speaker 2: I don't know what Trump actually knows, but he does
- 2:27Speaker 2: have the US intelligence communities. So my answer would be,
- 2:31Speaker 2: he must know the Chinese are supplying the Iranians with
- 2:34Speaker 2: weapons that the Iranians are using to kill Americans. So,
- 2:38Speaker 2: for instance, those six Americans who were killed on March first,
- 2:42Speaker 2: those who are Iranian drones. Every Iranian drone has Chinese
- 2:46Speaker 2: microchips or microchips that the Chinese sourced from others. So yeah,
- 2:52Speaker 2: I'm sure Trump knows, but it's you know, and I
- 2:56Speaker 2: actually think that it's incumbent on him to tell the
- 2:59Speaker 2: American what he knows because these are the lives of
- 3:03Speaker 2: American service people at risk.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, you know, I know what he does.
- 3:08Speaker 1: He's trying to make sure that he gets there. It's
- 3:10Speaker 1: all nice and he can get stuff done. He's he's
- 3:13Speaker 1: a brilliant, brilliant tactician when it comes to that, especially
- 3:16Speaker 1: with people you don't get along with. Right North Korea,
- 3:18Speaker 1: China putin, he's the best at that, maybe the best ever.
- 3:22Speaker 1: But the truth is is that China is helping the enemy. Now,
- 3:26Speaker 1: China is in a tough spot here because the US
- 3:29Speaker 1: blockade at the Strait of Hornmuz is preventing China from
- 3:33Speaker 1: accessing Iran's oil, which they need. I boy, believe correct
- 3:37Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. The majority of their oil comes
- 3:40Speaker 1: from that strait. So they're in a tough spot in
- 3:42Speaker 1: that A they're actually helping Iran, but b they need
- 3:47Speaker 1: Iran to back off the straight because they need the oil.
- 3:50Speaker 1: They're kind of playing both sides here.
- 3:52Speaker 2: No. Oh, yeah, China gets first of all takes. Last
- 3:57Speaker 2: year took eighty seven point two percent I think of
- 4:00Speaker 2: Iran's exports of crude. China gets somewhere between forty five
- 4:04Speaker 2: to fifty percent of its seaborne imports of oil from
- 4:09Speaker 2: the Strait of Formus. And also, you know, we know
- 4:12Speaker 2: that China is the world's largest importer of crude oil.
- 4:16Speaker 2: So yeah, they're hurting. We saw this in the April
- 4:18Speaker 2: CPI numbers from Beijing which were released a few hours ago.
- 4:22Speaker 2: And so yeah, Trump has an important card that he
- 4:26Speaker 2: can play. You know, Trump goes to Beijing, and you
- 4:30Speaker 2: got to look at the context. He goes to Beijing
- 4:33Speaker 2: carrying certain built in disadvantages. So, for instance, the Chinese
- 4:38Speaker 2: view every foreign leader who comes as no more than
- 4:40Speaker 2: a tribal chieftain coming to pay homage. Si Jimping is
- 4:44Speaker 2: especially arrogant to make that worst Segemping is now Security's
- 4:48Speaker 2: propagating a lot of anti American narratives. And of course
- 4:52Speaker 2: Trump didn't go for the March thirty one summit because
- 4:56Speaker 2: of the Iran War. But the Iran War is still ongoing,
- 4:59Speaker 2: and so the Chines view this as Trump coming to
- 5:02Speaker 2: ask for their help. That's not a good look. But
- 5:05Speaker 2: you know, Trump is Trump. He can change and defy
- 5:07Speaker 2: conventional wisdom. He can do something that puts the Chinese
- 5:11Speaker 2: on the back foot. And he absolutely needs to do that,
- 5:13Speaker 2: sid because he needs to show setim Ping that he's
- 5:17Speaker 2: not afraid of America, that he's not afraid of China.
- 5:21Speaker 2: And right now the Chinese think that Trump is afraid
- 5:24Speaker 2: of them. That is not good. I'm not saying the
- 5:27Speaker 2: Chinese are right. I'm saying that's the way they're looking
- 5:30Speaker 2: at it.
- 5:30Speaker 1: Yeah. No, this is why Trump is mad at you, Gordon,
- 5:32Speaker 1: because he's even though you're even though you're probably accurate,
- 5:36Speaker 1: I know I'm right, even though you may be accurate.
- 5:38Speaker 1: So then tell me to put the Chinese on their
- 5:41Speaker 1: back foot. As you just said, is that taris is
- 5:45Speaker 1: that trade? He's not going to threaten them with any
- 5:47Speaker 1: military involvement. So practically, what does President Trump do to say?
- 5:51Speaker 1: Does she hate tough guy? Calm down, I'm about to
- 5:55Speaker 1: put you in your place.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Two things. First of all, remember Trump warned that any
- 6:01Speaker 2: country that would supply Iran with weapons during the course
- 6:04Speaker 2: of the war would be hit with an American additional
- 6:07Speaker 2: fifty percent tariff on their goods. Trump needs to do that.
- 6:11Speaker 2: I mean, the evidence is there for everyone to see.
- 6:15Speaker 2: So I think Trump needs to make good on his threat.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Otherwise the Chinese will think he's just hollowman. The other
- 6:22Speaker 2: thing he needs to do is we know that Chinese
- 6:25Speaker 2: banks have been laundering money for the Chinese Kangs. They've
- 6:30Speaker 2: been complicit in this. Secretary Ves Treasury Secretary has been
- 6:35Speaker 2: warning about employing Section three eleven of the USA Patriot Act,
- 6:40Speaker 2: which would disconnect the Chinese banks from their dollar accounts. Look,
- 6:44Speaker 2: we need to do this regardless of Trump's visit or
- 6:47Speaker 2: no visit, because China right now has a free pass
- 6:51Speaker 2: to violate American laws. If we're not going to enforce
- 6:53Speaker 2: our laws, we need to repeal them. But the worst
- 6:56Speaker 2: thing is today, and that is we say we got
- 6:58Speaker 2: these laws, but we Base say to China, come here
- 7:01Speaker 2: and violate our laws because we're happy for you to
- 7:04Speaker 2: money launder. We didn't let Pablo Escobar launder money through
- 7:07Speaker 2: New York, but we will let you. That's really wrong.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Is that really happening?
- 7:13Speaker 2: One hundred percent? The Chinese money laundering gangs have taken
- 7:19Speaker 2: over the money laundering business around the world, not just
- 7:21Speaker 2: for the Mexican cartels. We know that these Chinese money
- 7:25Speaker 2: laundering gangs use Chinese banking apps, They use the Chinese
- 7:29Speaker 2: banking system to do this. China's banking system is tightly controlled. Remember,
- 7:33Speaker 2: China is basically a totalitarian state. The Chinese know exactly
- 7:37Speaker 2: what these Chinese gangs are doing. So yeah, these Chinese
- 7:41Speaker 2: banks are complicit in money laundering for Mexican drug lords
- 7:45Speaker 2: and for other bad actors around the world. And you know,
- 7:48Speaker 2: Bessen has been warning them over the last couple months,
- 7:51Speaker 2: well actually the last couple of weeks, but we haven't
- 7:54Speaker 2: seen anything happen. And this is not just a Trump issue,
- 7:57Speaker 2: this is a Biden issue, this is Obama issue. We've
- 8:01Speaker 2: known the Chinese have been doing this stuff, and we
- 8:03Speaker 2: have not had the courage to enforce our own laws.
- 8:07Speaker 2: So this is on US SID.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Gordon Shang Gordon g. Chang on Twitter. I know ideally
- 8:12Speaker 1: she would love to have his Chinese car makers here
- 8:17Speaker 1: in the US market, and we want those rare earth minerals, right,
- 8:20Speaker 1: I mean those things are used everything from your smartbones
- 8:24Speaker 1: to depend systems to AI. Those are two major topics
- 8:30Speaker 1: on the table on Thursday and Friday, Chinese car makers
- 8:33Speaker 1: and rare earth minerals. Where is he that going?
- 8:37Speaker 2: Well? I don't know what Trump will do, but Trump
- 8:39Speaker 2: absolutely should not allow Chinese evs into our country. They
- 8:43Speaker 2: are rolling spy machines. They transmit data back to China.
- 8:47Speaker 2: In other words, you know, you drive a Chinese EV
- 8:49Speaker 2: onto a US military base, they see everything. Also, you know,
- 8:53Speaker 2: the Chinese can remotely control these cars, so if they
- 8:56Speaker 2: want to, they can drive your car off the cliff
- 8:59Speaker 2: with you in it. So this is just wrong. The
- 9:03Speaker 2: Biden Administration, to its great credit, in January twenty twenty five,
- 9:07Speaker 2: issued regulations that effectively prevent Chinese evs on America's roads.
- 9:11Speaker 2: We need to put that into legislation, as some Republican
- 9:15Speaker 2: congressmen are trying to do, because this needs to be
- 9:18Speaker 2: more than just an executive order. It needs to be
- 9:21Speaker 2: permanent legislation. And the last thing we should do is
- 9:23Speaker 2: allow Chinese to make cars in our country. And that's
- 9:27Speaker 2: a long conversation. There are a lot of reasons, but
- 9:31Speaker 2: we do not want China to take over Detroit, and
- 9:34Speaker 2: that's what would happen because of Chinese subsidies.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I don't want that. I don't want them buying land
- 9:39Speaker 1: in New York, you know, and I don't want any
- 9:42Speaker 1: of that. Now, what about these are rare earth minerals? Currently,
- 9:44Speaker 1: China controls the majority of the manufacturing supply chain of
- 9:48Speaker 1: these minerals. It's bad enough you can't get an antibiotic
- 9:50Speaker 1: in the United States about the Chinese. What about these
- 9:52Speaker 1: rare earth minerals.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Yeah, China has a near monopoly on the processing of
- 9:58Speaker 2: rare earths, processing ninety two percent of global rare earths.
- 10:02Speaker 2: It also mines a lot of them. But you know,
- 10:05Speaker 2: here give great cut it to the Trump administration for
- 10:08Speaker 2: taking very important steps to reduce our vulnerability to Chinese
- 10:12Speaker 2: rare earths. So this is really good news. And also
- 10:15Speaker 2: a lot of Americans are coming up within genius ways
- 10:19Speaker 2: to reduce or eliminate our need for Chinese rare earths,
- 10:23Speaker 2: so you know, two years down the road, we won't
- 10:26Speaker 2: have this vulnerability. We'll still have vulnerability on pharmaceuticals. We
- 10:29Speaker 2: need to do a lot more. Senator Rick Scott Florida
- 10:33Speaker 2: is working on this problem, but we need to have
- 10:36Speaker 2: president and President Trump has been helping on this, so
- 10:40Speaker 2: that's good too, but we need much more focus on it.
- 10:43Speaker 1: I'm surprised too that one of the topics of conversation
- 10:46Speaker 1: looks like on this big Trump trip and he's taking
- 10:49Speaker 1: the guy from Boweling with him. I know that, so
- 10:51Speaker 1: there's a lot of business I'll be dealing with, but
- 10:52Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Taiwan will still be a topic of discussion.
- 10:56Speaker 1: I guess the Chinese know that we supply them with weapons,
- 10:59Speaker 1: and we know that they'd love to absorb Taiwan, have
- 11:02Speaker 1: given the opportunity, so I guess Taiwan is delay.
- 11:04Speaker 2: Discussion in any conversation with Chinese officials, it is Taiwan
- 11:11Speaker 2: is something that they will bring up, and yes, they
- 11:16Speaker 2: do want to annex Taiwan, but no, the people in
- 11:19Speaker 2: Taiwan don't want to be a next and it's our
- 11:22Speaker 2: interest to make sure that China keeps its midst off
- 11:25Speaker 2: of Taiwan, because Taiwan is really important for the United States,
- 11:30Speaker 2: not only microchips, but it's other things as well. You know,
- 11:34Speaker 2: after Biden's catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan, Taiwan became the test
- 11:39Speaker 2: of American credibility and resolve around the world. So this
- 11:42Speaker 2: is not just a Taiwan or not just an Asia issue.
- 11:45Speaker 2: This is an issue that transcends just East Asia.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Something discussion with somebody last week, and they claim they
- 11:54Speaker 1: vote for both parties, but I don't trust them. No,
- 11:57Speaker 1: I don't like Trump. And they were saying that there
- 12:00Speaker 1: there's no superpower. The United States is not a superpower. Now.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I said to you on this show a couple of
- 12:04Speaker 1: weeks ago, on you agreed that the United States is
- 12:07Speaker 1: still a superpower. Why because we still have a great
- 12:10Speaker 1: economy around the world. Our economy is far and away
- 12:14Speaker 1: the best. You can't put Russia and China in the
- 12:16Speaker 1: same category, not even close. So I maintain and say
- 12:20Speaker 1: by what I said a couple of weeks ago that
- 12:22Speaker 1: the only world superpower right now is US and not
- 12:26Speaker 1: the Chinese or the Russians.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Your thoughts, You're one hundred percent right, Sid We are
- 12:32Speaker 2: energy independent we are food independent, the Chinese are not.
- 12:37Speaker 1: That's a big one. So tell me about Russia quickly.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Last one and Ukraine. Putin said this war could be
- 12:43Speaker 1: over very very soon.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Is that what you're hearing, Gordon, Well, the Ukrainians are
- 12:48Speaker 2: having their way with the Russians. So yeah, I think
- 12:50Speaker 2: Putin is signaling that he's just had enough of this
- 12:54Speaker 2: and that's good because Ukraine is founding the you know
- 12:57Speaker 2: what out of the Russians.
- 12:58Speaker 1: They are final fifteen second and so again, just to
- 13:00Speaker 1: wrap this up in a nice little bow, Gordon Chang,
- 13:02Speaker 1: what do you want to see from Trump when he
- 13:04Speaker 1: goes to Beijing on Thursday.
- 13:06Speaker 2: I want Trump to tell the world that there's a
- 13:09Speaker 2: war in Iran because China has transplanted its nuclear weapons
- 13:12Speaker 2: program to Iran. Trump needs to say all this stuff
- 13:16Speaker 2: in public to show that he's not afraid of the Chinese.
- 13:19Speaker 2: He does that, it's a big win for the United States.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Gordon, You're amazing. You know that already. Thank you so
- 13:25Speaker 1: much for hopping on today. I always love having you
- 13:27Speaker 1: on this show. Gordon, Thank you so much.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Thank you, Sid, I really appreciate it.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Paw blessed Gordon Chang, Right, there follow him on Twitter.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Gordon g Gordon G. Chang and another great segment with
- 13:38Speaker 1: Gordon will take a break still to come. As I
- 13:40Speaker 1: mentioned one of the great pictures Atlanta Brave New York
- 13:43Speaker 1: met Tom Glavin, his former skipper for the Atlanta Braves.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Bobby Cox died this weekend. We'll talk to the president
- 13:50Speaker 1: of the dee A, Scott Monroe. Cats will be here too.
- 13:53Speaker 1: The Monday edition of Sid and Friends in the Morning
- 13:57Speaker 1: rolls on.
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