Latest / Morning Medical with Dr. Chow / Maternal Mortality, Gene-Editing for Cholesterol, and Shadow AI in Healthcare
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- 0:00Welcome to Morning Medical with Dr.
- 0:02Chow, where we dive into the latest in medical and health news from around the globe, all
- 0:07powered by artificial intelligence.
- 0:09I'm your host, Dr.
- 0:11Chi-Ming Chow, a cardiologist and professor of medicine at the University of Toronto.
- 0:16Today, we're going to explore a very important topic that may challenge what many of us think
- 0:21we know about maternal health.
- 0:26Today, we're discussing some surprising findings about the top causes of maternal
- 0:32death.
- 0:33Traditionally, when we think of maternal mortality, we might think of medical causes
- 0:38like cardiovascular disease, hypertension, hemorrhage, and infection.
- 0:44However, a recent analysis of data from 2018 to 2023 suggests a different picture.
- 0:52This study, led by Dr.
- 0:54Hooman A.
- 0:55Azad and his colleagues from Columbia University Irving Medical Center, shows that
- 1:00drug overdoses, homicides, and suicides account for more than a quarter of all deaths among
- 1:06pregnant and postpartum women.
- 1:09Over the six-year period analyzed, there were 7,901 maternal deaths.
- 1:15The leading cause of death was unintentional drug overdose, responsible for 1,152 of these
- 1:22deaths.
- 1:24Violence, which includes both homicide and suicide, was the second leading cause, with 866
- 1:31deaths.
- 1:32These numbers highlight a critical, yet often overlooked, aspect of maternal health.
- 1:38Dr.
- 1:39Azad points out that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention typically excludes
- 1:46homicides, suicides, and overdoses from their definition of maternal mortality, focusing
- 1:53instead on more traditional medical causes.
- 1:56But by doing so, we may not be fully addressing the broader spectrum of risks that pregnant and
- 2:02postpartum women face.
- 2:04Including violence and overdose in maternal mortality discussions could improve our
- 2:08understanding and approach to reducing these deaths.
- 2:12The study also highlights disparities in pregnancy-associated mortality by race, ethnic
- 2:18group, and age.
- 2:20Homicides were most frequent among Black women, especially those aged 15 to 24, while suicide
- 2:27and unintentional drug overdoses were more common among white women.
- 2:32Hispanic women showed lower incidences of homicide, suicide, and overdose compared to
- 2:38non-Hispanic women in certain age groups.
- 2:42Maeve Wallace from the University of Arizona emphasizes that these findings should not be
- 2:47surprising, as research has long shown that violent deaths often surpass obstetrical causes
- 2:52for pregnant women.
- 2:54She asserts that pregnancy and the postpartum period offer a "critical window of opportunity"
- 2:59for intervention.
- 3:01Many women experiencing violence, substance use, or severe mental health issues may only
- 3:07come into contact with healthcare providers because of their pregnancy, providing a chance
- 3:11for support and intervention.
- 3:14Dr.
- 3:15Azad calls for enhanced screening for intimate partner violence, drug dependency, and mental
- 3:20health issues, along with systems to support those who screen positive.
- 3:25This comprehensive approach could be key to reducing maternal deaths in these vulnerable
- 3:29populations.
- 3:32Today, we're delving into a groundbreaking area of research that could potentially
- 3:37revolutionize the way we manage high cholesterol and, by extension, heart disease.
- 3:42Scientists are exploring gene-editing as a novel treatment approach, which might offer a
- 3:48one-time fix for high cholesterol.
- 3:50This research is still in its early stages and has been tested on only a few dozen individuals
- 3:55so far.
- 3:56However, the initial results from two companies show promise that switching off certain genes
- 4:01could significantly lower levels of artery-clogging cholesterol.
- 4:05This raises the hope that one day, we might prevent heart attacks without the need for
- 4:10daily pills.
- 4:12Dr.
- 4:13Luke Laffin, a preventive cardiologist at the Cleveland Clinic, highlights the desire for a
- 4:18permanent solution rather than a temporary fix.
- 4:21After co-authoring a promising study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, he
- 4:26received numerous inquiries from individuals eager to participate in future clinical trials.
- 4:31The need for cholesterol is undeniable, as it plays a crucial role in the body's functions.
- 4:38However, excessive amounts, particularly of low-density lipoprotein cholesterol, contribute
- 4:43to plaque buildup in the arteries, leading to heart attacks and strokes.
- 4:48Cardiovascular disease remains the leading cause of death globally, and while millions
- 4:53rely on cholesterol-lowering medications like statins, many struggle to maintain optimal
- 4:59cholesterol levels due to side effects or the challenge of lifelong adherence.
- 5:04Genetics plays a significant role in how the body manages cholesterol.
- 5:10According to the American Heart Association, the liver produces the cholesterol the body
- 5:14needs, but some people inherit genes that cause very high cholesterol levels.
- 5:20Conversely, others have genes that keep their cholesterol naturally low, reducing their risk
- 5:26of heart disease.
- 5:27Years ago, Dr.
- 5:29Kiran Musunuru, a cardiologist now at the University of Pennsylvania, discovered that
- 5:35some individuals have a mutation that turns off the ANGPTL3 gene, resulting in lower levels of
- 5:41both low-density lipoprotein cholesterol and triglycerides.
- 5:45Similarly, geneticists at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center identified
- 5:51that other individuals' extremely low low-density lipoprotein levels were due to the
- 5:56loss of function of another gene, PCSK9.
- 6:00Dr.
- 6:01Steven Nissen from the Cleveland Clinic, alongside Dr.
- 6:05Laffin, oversaw a study funded by CRISPR Therapeutics that explored the potential of
- 6:10altering these genes.
- 6:12Currently, there are injectable medications that block proteins produced by the PCSK9 and
- 6:18ANGPTL3 genes in the liver, aiding in cholesterol clearance.
- 6:22The new research employs CRISPR, a Nobel Prize-winning gene-editing tool, to attempt
- 6:27switching off one of these genes in individuals at high risk from uncontrolled cholesterol.
- 6:33In one study, 15 adults received a single infusion of particles carrying the CRISPR tool
- 6:39to the liver, which successfully switched off the ANGPTL3 gene.
- 6:44Within two weeks, those receiving the highest dose experienced a fifty percent reduction in
- 6:49both low-density lipoprotein and triglyceride levels.
- 6:54Boston's Verve Therapeutics, a subsidiary of pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly, previously
- 6:59reported that their PCSK9-targeted editing infusion achieved a similar reduction in
- 7:05low-density lipoprotein cholesterol in a small study.
- 7:10Initial studies by both companies were conducted in Australia, the United Kingdom, and
- 7:15other countries, with United States study sites now opening.
- 7:19Dr.
- 7:19Nissen anticipates that the next phase of CRISPR Therapeutics' research will commence
- 7:24later this year, with sites yet to be announced.
- 7:28Both companies are exploring multiple gene targets to enhance treatment efficacy.
- 7:33While individuals with naturally nonfunctioning ANGPTL3 or PCSK9 genes do not appear to suffer
- 7:39adverse consequences, longer and more extensive studies are essential to fully understand the
- 7:45gene-editing approach's implications.
- 7:48Dr.
- 7:48Musunuru, who co-founded Verve Therapeutics, notes that participants in an earlier study
- 7:53have been monitored for two years, with consistently lowered cholesterol levels.
- 7:58Gene editing is considered a permanent solution, as edited liver cells replicate,
- 8:03passing the altered genes to their progeny.
- 8:06This permanence has been observed in mice, where the edits have lasted a lifetime.
- 8:12However, there are significant safety questions that need addressing.
- 8:16Dr.
- 8:17Joseph Wu from Stanford University, who was not involved in the studies, cautions that
- 8:22CRISPR-based therapies for any disease have not been used extensively enough to ascertain
- 8:28long-term safety.
- 8:30The particles used to deliver the gene-editing tool can potentially irritate or inflame the
- 8:35liver.
- 8:36Additionally, there is the concern of ensuring that gene-editing precisely targets only the
- 8:41intended genes.
- 8:43As a result, current studies are primarily focusing on individuals at very high risk to
- 8:48mitigate potential risks.
- 8:52Today, we're diving into a study that reveals some startling connections between body mass
- 8:56index and infection-related outcomes.
- 9:00Researchers from the University College London and the University of Helsinki have found that
- 9:05obesity may be a contributing factor in more than ten percent of infection-related deaths.
- 9:11This extensive study, published in The Lancet, analyzed medical data from nearly five hundred
- 9:17fifty thousand adults in Finland and the United Kingdom over a fourteen-year period.
- 9:23The findings suggest that individuals with a body mass index of thirty or above, which
- 9:28classifies them as obese, are seventy percent more likely to be hospitalized with or die from
- 9:34an infection compared to those with a healthier body mass index.
- 9:39The study highlights a particularly concerning trend among those with class three obesity,
- 9:45defined as a body mass index of forty or higher.
- 9:49These individuals were found to be three times more likely to be hospitalized for infection,
- 9:54to die, or to experience either outcome compared to those with a body mass index
- 9:59between eighteen point five and twenty-four point nine.
- 10:03Startlingly, the researchers estimated that obesity played a role in about nine percent of
- 10:09infection-related deaths in two thousand eighteen, about fifteen percent in two thousand
- 10:14twenty-one, and around eleven percent in two thousand twenty-three.
- 10:19One of the intriguing aspects of this study is that the association between obesity and worse
- 10:24infection outcomes was observed even in obese individuals who did not have diabetes, heart
- 10:30disease, or metabolic syndrome.
- 10:32Physical activity levels also did not appear to significantly alter this link.
- 10:37The study encompassed a wide range of infectious diseases, including influenza,
- 10:43COVID-19, pneumonia, gastroenteritis, urinary tract infections, and lower respiratory tract
- 10:50infections.
- 10:51Nearly all types of infections were linked to higher risks of poor outcomes in individuals
- 10:57with obesity.
- 10:59Professor Mika Kivimaki, the study's lead author, pointed out that while obesity is
- 11:04already a well-known risk factor for metabolic syndrome, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and
- 11:10other chronic conditions, this study provides robust evidence that it is also linked to worse
- 11:16outcomes from infectious diseases.
- 11:18According to Professor Kivimaki, recovery from infections is markedly harder for individuals
- 11:23with obesity, as their body's defenses against infections are weakened.
- 11:28The study also revealed that certain conditions, such as skin and soft-tissue
- 11:33infections, were most strongly associated with obesity.
- 11:38Furthermore, those who managed to lose weight after being initially classified as obese
- 11:43reduced their risk of severe infections by approximately twenty percent.
- 11:47This underscores the importance of implementing policies that support weight loss and healthy
- 11:51living, such as providing access to affordable healthy food and opportunities for physical
- 11:56activity.
- 11:58Dr.
- 11:59Solja Nyberg, the first author from the University of Helsinki, emphasized the urgency
- 12:04of addressing obesity to reduce the risk of severe infections, as well as other health
- 12:09issues linked with obesity.
- 12:11She noted that as obesity rates are expected to rise globally, so will the number of deaths and
- 12:17hospitalizations from infectious diseases linked to obesity.
- 12:21Dr.
- 12:22Nyberg also highlighted the importance of obese individuals staying up to date with their
- 12:26vaccinations to further mitigate these risks.
- 12:30While the study provides compelling evidence of the link between obesity and infection
- 12:35severity, it's important to note that it does not prove causation.
- 12:41Additionally, the study's reliance on body mass index as a measure of obesity has been a topic
- 12:47of debate, as body mass index may not fully capture an individual's health status.
- 12:53The study's findings are based on data from adults in Finland and the United Kingdom, which
- 12:59may limit its applicability to other populations.
- 13:03Nonetheless, the research, funded by Wellcome, the Medical Research Council, and the Research
- 13:09Council of Finland, provides a crucial insight into the health challenges posed by obesity.
- 13:17Today, we're exploring a topic that has sparked debate for years: when it comes to heart
- 13:22health, is a low-fat diet better than a low-carbohydrate diet?
- 13:27A recent study published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology adds an
- 13:32intriguing layer to this discussion.
- 13:34The study suggests that the emphasis on either low-fat or low-carbohydrate diets might be less
- 13:40important than focusing on the quality of the foods consumed.
- 13:45Researchers compared the effects of different diets on heart health by examining over ten
- 13:50thousand adults over a period of several years.
- 13:54They found that individuals who followed a diet rich in high-quality carbohydrates, like whole
- 13:59grains and vegetables, had better heart health outcomes than those who consumed processed
- 14:03foods, regardless of whether their diet was low in fat or carbohydrates.
- 14:09Dr.
- 14:09Lydia Bazzano, a lead researcher from Tulane University, explains that the focus should
- 14:14shift toward the overall quality of the diet rather than strictly limiting fat or
- 14:19carbohydrates.
- 14:21She emphasizes that whole foods, which are minimally processed and rich in nutrients, can
- 14:25support heart health more effectively than simply reducing one macronutrient or another.
- 14:31The study also highlights the role of dietary patterns in heart health.
- 14:35It found that people who adhered to a Mediterranean-style diet, which includes plenty
- 14:40of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and healthy fats like olive oil, tended to have
- 14:45better heart health outcomes.
- 14:48This suggests that a balanced approach incorporating a variety of nutrient-rich foods
- 14:52can be beneficial.
- 14:55Dr.
- 14:56Bazzano points out that while low-fat and low-carbohydrate diets can be effective for
- 15:02weight loss, they might not always align with what's best for heart health.
- 15:07She notes that the key takeaway from the study is the importance of prioritizing whole,
- 15:13unprocessed foods rich in fiber, vitamins, and healthy fats.
- 15:19This research challenges the traditional view that dietary fat is the main culprit in heart
- 15:24disease.
- 15:25Instead, it encourages a broader perspective, focusing on the types of foods consumed rather
- 15:31than just macronutrient content.
- 15:34This means that a diet high in healthy fats from sources like avocados and nuts could be
- 15:39more heart-friendly than a diet filled with processed low-fat options.
- 15:44In conclusion, the study suggests that for heart health, quality trumps quantity.
- 15:50It's not just about cutting out carbs or fats; it's about choosing the right kinds of foods.
- 15:56This finding could help guide future dietary recommendations, emphasizing the value of
- 16:01whole, nutrient-dense foods for maintaining a healthy heart.
- 16:06Today, we're discussing a fascinating and somewhat controversial topic: the quiet, yet
- 16:12widespread, use of artificial intelligence by doctors, often without formal approval from
- 16:18their institutions.
- 16:20This phenomenon is known as "shadow AI." In bustling clinics, it's not uncommon for a
- 16:25clinician to use a chatbot to summarize a long consultation note or to draft an appeal letter
- 16:31for an insurance denial.
- 16:33Although hospitals might not officially sanction these tools, many physicians are
- 16:37incorporating them into their daily routines.
- 16:40A survey conducted by the American Medical Association in early 2025 found that
- 16:46approximately two-thirds of physicians had already started using some form of healthcare
- 16:51artificial intelligence, primarily for documentation and messaging, rather than for
- 16:57making autonomous diagnoses.
- 17:00This is a significant increase from the previous year.
- 17:04Similarly, in the United Kingdom, about thirty percent of general practitioners reported using
- 17:10tools like ChatGPT for documentation help, diagnostic brainstorming, or exploring
- 17:16treatment options, often without formal training or explicit permission from their
- 17:20employers.
- 17:22Despite the lack of formal approval, large health systems are beginning to implement
- 17:27officially sanctioned tools.
- 17:29A multi-center quality improvement study found that clinicians who used an ambient AI scribe
- 17:34spent less time on documentation and reported significantly lower levels of burnout.
- 17:40Health systems such as the Permanente Medical Group have documented millions of patient
- 17:45encounters using ambient AI, reducing the amount of "pajama time," or after-hours work,
- 17:51for doctors.
- 17:52However, much of AI usage in the medical field is still happening in the shadows.
- 17:58"Shadow AI" refers to the use of artificial intelligence tools without institutional
- 18:03approval or oversight.
- 18:06This can include using a public chatbot to clean up language in notes, employing a free
- 18:11mobile scribe app during patient visits, or asking a consumer chatbot for help with complex
- 18:17portal messages or discharge instructions.
- 18:20Until recently, most information about shadow AI came from information technology leaders and
- 18:27security firms.
- 18:28However, a clearer picture is now emerging from the clinical side.
- 18:33A recent survey by Wolters Kluwer Health revealed that around seventeen percent of
- 18:37healthcare workers, including clinicians and administrators, admitted to using unapproved AI
- 18:43tools at work.
- 18:44Among those who did, the primary reasons were the faster workflows and better functionality
- 18:50these tools offered compared to the organization's official options.
- 18:54Interestingly, this isn't just a problem among early-career clinicians; even more experienced
- 18:59doctors are turning to shadow AI to handle the pressures of their workdays.
- 19:05Security researchers have flagged shadow AI as a potential contributor to data breaches, and
- 19:10enterprise vendors are selling tools to detect and manage its use.
- 19:14However, the health sector still tends to treat shadow AI as a behavior to reprimand, rather
- 19:20than a reality to govern.
- 19:22Current AI policies often assume that governance begins when a health system decides
- 19:29to deploy AI, but by that point, the tools are already in use by individual clinicians trying
- 19:37to manage their workloads.
- 19:39Banning AI tools or sending out memos warning against the use of public chatbots hasn't
- 19:44stopped shadow AI's spread.
- 19:47In fact, prohibition tends to drive these practices underground, making them less safe.
- 19:54Rather than focusing solely on the tools that are officially purchased and integrated, health
- 19:59systems need to acknowledge the broader reality of AI use in healthcare.
- 20:04There are three practical shifts that could make a significant difference.
- 20:09First, make AI use speakable.
- 20:13Create non-punitive ways for clinicians to share what they're actually doing, like
- 20:18anonymous surveys or focus groups.
- 20:21This would help identify which workflows clinicians are trying to improve and where
- 20:25unsanctioned tools are filling real gaps.
- 20:29Second, build a safe "front door" for AI.
- 20:34Offer a governed, easy-to-access interface for generative AI that keeps data within secure
- 20:40infrastructure.
- 20:42Provide templates for common tasks so that clinicians don't have to rely on public
- 20:47chatbots.
- 20:48If the official tools are clunky or less effective than public options, shadow AI will
- 20:53continue to thrive.
- 20:55Finally, treat shadow AI as a discovery tool.
- 20:59If many clinicians are using an unapproved tool for a particular task, that's a signal to study
- 21:04that workflow, evaluate safer alternatives, and help people transition to vetted options.
- 21:11Early trials of ambient scribes have shown that they can reduce documentation time and burnout
- 21:16without compromising the quality of notes.
- 21:20In conclusion, shadow AI isn't going anywhere.
- 21:23The choice isn't between using AI or not; it's about how we manage its use in healthcare.
- 21:29Ignoring shadow AI or trying to ban it out of existence only risks creating unmeasured
- 21:34clinical influence and unmanaged security exposure.
- 21:38A more realistic approach is to acknowledge that unsanctioned AI has become part of the
- 21:44infrastructure and to build governance that reflects this reality.
- 21:49For health systems, this means making AI use visible and guiding it through safer channels.
- 21:56For clinicians, it means being honest about how we're using these tools and pushing for
- 22:02policies that catch up to the reality of AI in healthcare.
- 22:07Thank you for joining us on Morning Medical with Dr.
- 22:10Chow.
- 22:11I hope today's discussion has provided you with new insights into the evolving role of
- 22:16artificial intelligence in healthcare.
- 22:18Until next time, stay informed and stay healthy.