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8-19-26 Hour 3 - Important to play in preseason/Chargers gon Charger, Lakers & Dodgers drama/Final thoughts · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: It's football, it's getting me ready for the games coming up,
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  Speaker 3: and it's a physical practice out there, played by physical people.
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  Speaker 3: So it got intense and we were just really enjoying it.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes in the dog days of summer, practice gets
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  Speaker 3: long and the intensity runs high, free solid.
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  Speaker 4: Back out here at Broncos Park.
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  Speaker 2: out at camp before they kick us out of here.
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  Speaker 4: Chad Brown with us today.
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  Speaker 2: The fights. Talked a lot about them today. That happened
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  Speaker 2: yesterday in camp, and I think for good reason it happens.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember the last time that there wasn't some
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  Speaker 2: sort of a skirmish we'll call it scuffle scuffle at
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  Speaker 2: a Broncos camp. It's it's not something that coaches want, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but it's something that's just I guess part of what's
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  Speaker 2: ingrained through it now. Chad, you said in your years
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  Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, you played for super physical Steelers teams that
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  Speaker 2: fights weren't a common occurrence or didn't happen every year,
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  Speaker 2: We're not correct. Yeah, it feels like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: these places, especially when he gets to joint practices. And
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  Speaker 2: let me ask you this, because it's one thing to
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  Speaker 2: have a little scuffle between your own teammates because you're
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  Speaker 2: doing this over and over and over again. It's another
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  Speaker 2: thing where I've heard multiple coaches around the league talk
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  Speaker 2: about they're hesitant now to do joint practices because they
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  Speaker 2: think it's almost unproductive with the amount of fights that
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  Speaker 2: do seem to happen and joint practices. Did you enjoy
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  Speaker 2: that stuff, the joint practice.
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  Speaker 5: Or I did not. Now, the Steelers, we did them
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  Speaker 5: against Buffalo, and Buffalo was in there heyday with Jim
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  Speaker 5: Kelly and Bruce Smith and so those guys didn't even practice,
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  Speaker 5: so we practiced against their backups. So I think after
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  Speaker 5: a while coach Kyra decided it wasn't worth the time
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  Speaker 5: and effort to put into it to go up to
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  Speaker 5: Edinburgh and drive the buses and do all that because
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  Speaker 5: we weren't going against their ones, and they practiced in
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  Speaker 5: a complete different way than we did, and so to
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  Speaker 5: mesh those together and for it to be productive for
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  Speaker 5: both sides. In the end, it didn't work for Bill
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  Speaker 5: kyr That's why he stopped doing it. And I think
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  Speaker 5: that's why some of these coaches are beginning to look
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  Speaker 5: at this joint practice thing, which was initially I thought
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  Speaker 5: a great idea. This is a way we can script
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  Speaker 5: up things. Hey, coach, we want to work on short
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  Speaker 5: yards and goal line, Well, great, so do we, So
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  Speaker 5: you can script those periods out that you may not
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  Speaker 5: get the opportunity to do in a preseason game. But
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  Speaker 5: at the players are going to fight. If we're gonna
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  Speaker 5: have two different practice styles that we can't bring together,
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  Speaker 5: then we're wasting time.
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  Speaker 6: The reason that I liked him when they were here
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  Speaker 6: obviously it just broke up the monotony for a guy
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  Speaker 6: like me, you know, And it's always.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 6: I don't care if it's good for the Broncos, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: but it would break up the manati, you know what
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  Speaker 6: I mean. And then, of course, a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 6: I fall in love with Jordan love throwing the football.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, he's got a beautiful arm and so you
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  Speaker 6: know what, I love it, love, I love love, love love.
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  Speaker 6: But you know, I mean, but it's funny we would
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  Speaker 6: sit here.
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  Speaker 2: Was one of the cowboys in here? How long ago
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  Speaker 2: was that?
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  Speaker 6: That was.
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  Speaker 2: Two or three years? But it cracks me up. Eighty
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  Speaker 2: seven buses. Yeah, I'm like, well, who are they? Who
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  Speaker 2: are they bringing the entire city of Dallas? What are
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  Speaker 2: we doing here? So it's it's probably more painting the
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  Speaker 2: butt than it really is worth.
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  Speaker 5: I think if you do it correctly and everyone's on
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  Speaker 5: the same page, and both coaches issue warning to their
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  Speaker 5: teams about fighting, it can be productive and it can
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  Speaker 5: test where you are. When the forty nine Ers came
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  Speaker 5: here and did two practices before a preseason game, I
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  Speaker 5: was with the forty nine ers that offseason with an internship,
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  Speaker 5: was not here for training camp, was not with them
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  Speaker 5: for training camp. But they came the first day and
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  Speaker 5: they blew the Broncos off the field with their energy,
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  Speaker 5: as I expected that they would. But the Broncos responded
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  Speaker 5: the next day and brought their own energy. So sometimes
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  Speaker 5: it's great because we've been practicing at this level, we're here,
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  Speaker 5: comes in another team that's at a different level. Oh
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  Speaker 5: my goodness. We got to find a way to match this,
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  Speaker 5: and the Broncos did the next day.
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  Speaker 6: Was that the time that you and Vic, we were
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  Speaker 6: all standing there and here comes Jimmy Garoppolo and you
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  Speaker 6: guys just about fond all over yourself for Jimmy Garoppolo.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember that it's a good looking guy. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you have, I would.
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  Speaker 5: I get that he's a very good looking man.
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  Speaker 2: I get that, But.
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  Speaker 6: These two are like, these two are like you know,
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  Speaker 6: at a boy band con.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they were just going. It's the same thing
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  Speaker 2: that happened the first time I saw Sierra walk by us.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that's a beautiful human being. What do
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  Speaker 2: you want me to do? Stow it, Alice?
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  Speaker 5: Never mind, you didn't watch that show, Alice.
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  Speaker 2: No, well, I'm thinking to Honeymooners, Rolf Gram. Stow it, Alice.
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  Speaker 4: Wait, you you hit me about to say anything reference
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  Speaker 4: and you go back to the give me.
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  Speaker 6: It did not land well, It landed poorly. It was
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  Speaker 6: a shanked field goal. I completely admitted.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, though, Chad, because you you
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  Speaker 2: spent a decade and a half in the league, been
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  Speaker 2: through training camps, preseasons, all this different stuff. You're a veteran,
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  Speaker 2: you're a proven guy, very good player in the league,
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  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl player, All Pro. Did you feel like you
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  Speaker 2: needed to play in the preseason?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely? Did I need all four? Nope, but I needed
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  Speaker 5: at least two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I needed at least too. The first time you put
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  Speaker 5: pads on in practice, I would at some point I
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  Speaker 5: would smash my thumb between my helmet and someone else's helmet.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, Ricky Bobby Talladega Knights, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know what to do with my hands. Yeah, my
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  Speaker 5: hands aren't going to the right places. And then after
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  Speaker 5: a couple of days, I get my hand placement down. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 5: we've done a little bit of tackling, but I haven't
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  Speaker 5: done full speed tackling. Now I can see it in
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  Speaker 5: the game, and I can see, Oh, my angle was
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  Speaker 5: a bit off. I didn't drive through the thigh, I
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  Speaker 5: hit the hip. You know, let me improve that for
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  Speaker 5: this next game. You can't replicate football in a practice
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  Speaker 5: situation the same way you can in games. So I
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  Speaker 5: needed that. There were some other great players who I
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  Speaker 5: was around who didn't need it, but for me, absolutely,
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  Speaker 5: every season I wanted to play in at least two
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  Speaker 5: preseason games.
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  Speaker 2: My assumption is going to be because we're only a
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  Speaker 2: couple of days away now from the second preseason game
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  Speaker 2: against Green Bay, my assumption is that I think Bonnix
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  Speaker 2: is gonna play in this one.
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  Speaker 4: It's at home. It's he's gonna you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: He's gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: And and Sean Payton is somebody who is obviously a
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  Speaker 2: fan of getting his guys at least a few reps.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what did the starters play in that first game?
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  Speaker 4: Was it three? Three drives? Or two drives in that
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  Speaker 4: first game?
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  Speaker 5: At least two?
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  Speaker 2: It was at least two. He wants to get them
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  Speaker 2: at least some reps. And I think that's a smart
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  Speaker 2: thing to do. Like I believe there's something too, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you can't go full bore what we were just
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  Speaker 2: talking about in practice, a lot of times fight stem
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  Speaker 2: from somebody's going ninety percent when you're going seventy. And
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  Speaker 2: then it's you get into a fight about how how
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  Speaker 2: are we going to go here? Man, Let's make a decision, right.
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  Speaker 2: But in a preseason game, like you're going like you're going,
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  Speaker 2: that's a game and so question. I think getting your
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  Speaker 2: your body calloused to that kind of stuff matters too.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, get your your thumb smashed in between
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  Speaker 2: a face mask or something like that. I think sometimes
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  Speaker 2: just feeling the hit of a full one percent tackle
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  Speaker 2: gets you in a better mindset heading into the season.
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  Speaker 5: You have to develop a tough skin. So for the
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  Speaker 5: players who hold out all trading camp long, they don't
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  Speaker 5: get a chance to do that. Those first couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 5: they are incredibly sore. A hit that would not cause
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  Speaker 5: a bruise week ten is some massive bruise on someone's
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  Speaker 5: tricep or thigh because they haven't developed and callous their
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  Speaker 5: body to with and the riggers of playing professional football.
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  Speaker 5: You have to toughen yourself up to do this.
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  Speaker 6: Which is why we go back to that hacket camp.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, oh my god, no callous, no nothing, man, nothing
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  Speaker 2: they were doing from the get go. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying that you need.
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  Speaker 6: To tackle, because again I think it was that that's
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  Speaker 6: the year that the Lions run hard knocks, right If
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  Speaker 6: I'm not mistakes, and I'm like, I've seen more tackling
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  Speaker 6: in the first minute and a half of hard knocks
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  Speaker 6: than at all of Broncos camp for two weeks, right,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm not seeing the Dan Campbell wayte the way
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  Speaker 6: to do it. But there's how you can't prepare for
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  Speaker 6: football without hitting somebody, can you?
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  Speaker 4: Well that's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said in that that first episode is
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  Speaker 2: he goes, I know you guys are looking at me
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  Speaker 2: crazy that we're going full pads and tackling, Goes, I
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  Speaker 2: believe in getting your body calloused, and how do you
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  Speaker 2: practice tackling without actually tackling?
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  Speaker 4: Was his whole thing. Now I almost saw it, like you, Moje.
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  Speaker 2: We talked to Leggy, I think a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: after that first episode came out, and I was like.
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  Speaker 4: What's more normal?
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  Speaker 2: Is it what Hacket's doing or is what we watched
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  Speaker 2: on HBO? And he goes, I think they're both pretty extreme,
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  Speaker 2: and it felt that way. But I mean you look
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  Speaker 2: at the team, like, you know, it's been really good
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  Speaker 2: over the last few years. The rams have been pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: Yea mcvaiga, he bubble up everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Stafford doesn't take a snap of the preseason.
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  Speaker 6: And but he's mad.
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  Speaker 2: But none of them, none of them. I almost guarantee
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  Speaker 2: you if Aaron Donald signs today with the Rams. He's
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  Speaker 2: not playing a snap until that season starts.
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  Speaker 6: I'm sure he's Aaron Donald, he's Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been out of the game for is it
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  Speaker 2: two you're right, You're right, like that's a long time.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be curious what the Rams first four game win
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  Speaker 5: loss record is over the over Sean mcvay's time when
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  Speaker 5: he's done this, because we know what the seventeen game,
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  Speaker 5: and now with the eighteen game on the horizon, coaches
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  Speaker 5: are beginning to treat the first quarter of the season
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  Speaker 5: as an extension of the preseason, and so they are
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  Speaker 5: more comfortable with going to Sean mcavay route because we'll
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  Speaker 5: get our guys up to speed in those four But
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious with what the MS record is, and I'm
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  Speaker 5: curious about from an injury standpoint, to put guys out
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  Speaker 5: there who haven't toughened and cows themselves again. I would
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  Speaker 5: feel uncomfortable with that if that was asked of me.
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  Speaker 5: If Sean McVay said, chat, I don't want you to
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  Speaker 5: play some entire preseason, I would push back and say, respectfully, coach,
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  Speaker 5: I need some reps. You can give me two series
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  Speaker 5: in game two and two series in game three and
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  Speaker 5: I'll be out. That'll be good enough for me.
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  Speaker 2: Get out of your hair.
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  Speaker 5: But I gotta get that. I gotta get some of
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  Speaker 5: that done.
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  Speaker 2: So it looks like McVeigh in his first six seasons,
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  Speaker 2: in the month of September, he was sixteen to four
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  Speaker 2: woo wow.
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  Speaker 6: So he found something that works for him obviously with
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  Speaker 6: those guys. But I mean, look, I talk about this
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  Speaker 6: and I think at least twice a week I look
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  Speaker 6: at the Rams roster. Do you know how good they're
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  Speaker 6: gonna be if Aaron Donald, if Aaron Donald is inserted
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  Speaker 6: back into the middle of that line, do you realize
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  Speaker 6: how good this team is. I don't know that anybody can.
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  Speaker 6: But there's a reason feel unbeatable to me.
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  Speaker 5: There's a reason why if you have a cup of
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  Speaker 5: coffee with Sean McVay, you get a head coaching interview. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's an incredibly good coach. And for college football, with
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  Speaker 5: Kirk Signetti, with they do an hour and a half practice.
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  Speaker 5: They're very efficient with their practice style. So not every
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  Speaker 5: not everyone can replicate some of the basics of that
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  Speaker 5: and still meet the level of success because you're not
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  Speaker 5: Kirk Signetti. You're not Sean McVay. So you want to
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  Speaker 5: take this thing that they do and think that's going
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  Speaker 5: to bring you the same success. It does not work
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  Speaker 5: that way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, chats around with us.
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  Speaker 6: What are you doing on? This is gonna die? I
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  Speaker 6: didn't even realize it wasn't plugged in, so I have
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  Speaker 6: to was down between.
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  Speaker 2: Just crawl around.
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  Speaker 6: Chads Chad's caves. There's no great deal. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 6: it's normal.
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  Speaker 2: It was. It was like diving backwards, diving back underneath
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  Speaker 2: the table, is like, what's going on here? What was
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  Speaker 2: better that or me dodging that b In the first hour,
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  Speaker 2: I had moves. I had moved.
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  Speaker 5: I had showed leticism here because you had to bend
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  Speaker 5: good point. Yes, you're true ability to shake the bee?
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  Speaker 5: Hey you want it very good.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting up there a little, but you're still in
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  Speaker 2: great shape. Fifty five you want to do exercise?
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, fifty six I had a birthday.
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  Speaker 4: Are you at a breath?
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  Speaker 2: No? Okay, do I sound out a breath?
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  Speaker 6: It?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Bending over, get up off the ground without using your hands.
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  Speaker 6: That's a good exercise.
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  Speaker 5: It is a very common metro bro sexual kind of YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm coming now, you know that's what I'm
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  Speaker 2: be coming. Metro bro influencer.
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  Speaker 5: That's you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's got a cameo. Now just ask him
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  Speaker 2: about it. Charge him twenty bucks though, if you want
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  Speaker 2: him to say anything. Um, I'll give your birthday shout out.
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it for you.
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  Speaker 4: I'll do it for fifteen quickly here before you get
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: to a break. I saw this yesterday. What do you
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  Speaker 4: guys think of this?
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  Speaker 2: North Koreans are being told to drink one liter of
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  Speaker 2: beer to handle the country's heat wave. Officials have said
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  Speaker 2: it's an effective health drink for dispelling the heat, even
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  Speaker 2: though that's been disputed by doctors.
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  Speaker 6: I gotta tell you, pretz moving to North Korea.
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  Speaker 2: Been outside on really hot days and I've had a
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  Speaker 2: glass of water and I've had a beer.
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  Speaker 4: Beer hits better, It cools me down more. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: telling you, mos, you've been in those.
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  Speaker 6: I think a psychological, psychological thing.
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  Speaker 2: But if if you.
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  Speaker 4: Believe it, look at my skin tone.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the kind of guy that could sit on
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  Speaker 2: the first base side of Coors Field and have a
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  Speaker 2: great time with it.
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  Speaker 4: You know what, I mean you start to cook over there.
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  Speaker 2: You're a third base, third base side and party deck
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  Speaker 2: at night when the sun set.
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  Speaker 5: They used to serve beer at the Tour de France,
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  Speaker 5: did they really? Because it was thinking was that it
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  Speaker 5: would help you with hot days and assurance.
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  Speaker 6: Wait, you mean the cyclists they have beer in.
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  Speaker 5: Those water cups.
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  Speaker 2: You're kidding me.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, there's a long time ago.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, nineteen thirty seven. Yes, guys get all hopped up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's those those monks in like Tibet. Some of
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  Speaker 2: them have gone on forty day fast where they all
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  Speaker 2: they drink his beer, no water, know nothing, They just
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  Speaker 2: drink beer drunk.
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  Speaker 4: And they've they've lived through it. Sounds like the Moses diet.
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  Speaker 5: Beer is like.
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  Speaker 4: Wait a minute, No it doesn't. What do you I
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  Speaker 4: said a fast mode.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's about supplementing whatever you're eating with that.
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  Speaker 6: Since the end of the season, I'm down about twelve.
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  Speaker 5: Congratulations, thanks buddy.
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  Speaker 4: Uh three oh three, five, four nine to two five
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  Speaker 4: Back after this, back.
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  Speaker 2: Out here a Broncos park Our, final day out at
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  Speaker 2: training camp this year until the Broncos kick us out.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: But it is all brought to you by Ramos Loss.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: We have an update here from Adam Schefter. Remember, in
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  Speaker 2: the hour yesterday of joint practice between the Chargers and
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  Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers, the Chargers lost three players due
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  Speaker 2: to injury, including their center Tyler Bidaz, who is out
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  Speaker 2: indefinitely after suffering damage to his a cl additional injuries
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  Speaker 2: to his left knee during that joint practice yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: He will meet with more.
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  Speaker 2: Doctors to try and get more clarity, but it looks
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  Speaker 2: like he's likely out for the season. That is un.
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: Chargers are going to Charger h.
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: Dude, I mean again, Quentin Johnson got hurt too? Correct, Yes,
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: Quentin Johnson got hurt. Who else got hurt? Somebody else?
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: I forget somebody else got banged up?
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Canard their their linebacker?
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, so he he did too. I mean no, I
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: don't know the extent of those injuries. It doesn't seem
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: like it's as bad as this one, but who knows. Well.
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: I'm not gonna cry for the Los Angeles Chargers of
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: Anaheim or whatever they are nowadays. I'm not gonna I'm
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: not gonna be sad for them. But it feels like
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: that franchise can't catch a break. I mean, when did
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: Slater go out last year, he was out. Joe Joe
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: was Joe ald first immense later I think, yes.
• 15:49
  Speaker 5: Something like that, and then all came back for a
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: bit and then it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Was out again again.
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: God, God, if you're justin Herbert, are you just like,
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: can catch a brisk somebody? Can I just have like
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: three people in front of me, stay alive?
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: He can just if he's feeling bad about it, he
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: can just sit on the field and have his girlfriend
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: pet his head, pet his hair.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: That's a new thing, by the way, the hair petting.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Well, it's there's been this, uh, this criticism of quarterbacks
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: now that all have their their girlfriends or their wives
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: out there on the field and they're being very touchy feeling.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: In his defense, she's hot, no oh sorry, in his defense,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: that all the families a run on the field.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: Everybody had their their their families out like it's a
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: picnic or whatever after practice.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: All these quarterbacks are dating musicians and actresses.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: Now you're talking now you're talking about brosexual stuff, right,
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: I mean you were just talking about it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: All these young hotshot qbs that Jackson. I think you
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: can act however you want to if you got I.
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Mean, but there's a there's a concerted effort to put
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: the photos of Justin Herbert and his girlfriend's lash wife
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: She's a famous Yeah.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: Over the last couple of months, that seems to be
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: a major push. Someone's behind that. There's dollars behind that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: I quite haven't figured out who or what.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I would imagine it's not coming from the Chargers, but
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I would imagine.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: That she right her who she is.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: She's got a she's got a pr apartment that probably Yeah,
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: you know, she's with the star quarterback and he's a
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: pretty boy and she's a pretty girl.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: And that's what it is.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, So it is Herbert in Madison Deer is his
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: uh girlfriend, fiance whatever. Joe Burrow and his girlfriend have
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: been on the field like that, Jackson Darton his girlfriend obviously.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen's married to the Steinfeld girl.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Allen. Yeah, there's been a lot of that going on.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I guess it's a new thing.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: If you are a quarterback in the NFL, you need
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to have a very famous person that you were.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: Once upon a time, family wasn't allowed anywhere near training.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Camp, so it was it was almost like you guys,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: literally you went to summer camp. Yes, like a little kid,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: like you send them the summer camp and we see, yes.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Your family your Your family's only participations was if you
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: won the Super Bowl and you got to bring your
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: kid out to the media interviews. Now family is a
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: part of their on the field. My kids would have
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: loved that, My wife would have loved that. So yeah,
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: this is it's a brand new NFL. I can't be
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: mad at it. I suppose I can be a little
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: bit jealous of the easier practice schedule and the fact
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: that they get to stay in a hotel, not in
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: a dorm room, and their families get to come and
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: participate in some way in training camp. When I you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: I came to my home and the coaching staff and
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: see I was like, hey, my family wants to come.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Well they can sit in that family section over there
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: and you can see them after practice. So it's like
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: I can't even have my son on the field.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: You know the the team report cards that come out
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: every year where every team gives their their teams a
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: letter grade. The NFL just the one that just lose
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: every year.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: That the owner tried to block the release up was
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: so mad they scored so poorly.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: But it feels like treatment of families was always at
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the bottom of the list. Everybody was getting like d's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and f's in those and maybe that's part of the
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: concerted effort to change all this stuff. Who knows, I mean,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: what is treatment of families? Is it what you're talking
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: about with them being allowed to practice and stuff? Is
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: it more than that? What do you think it is?
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: It is at the home game experiences, where does the
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: family meet you after the game? Are they forced to
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: meet you in the parking lot? And it's a cold
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: weather city and so you've got your media obligations, you
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: got a shower, you gotta do everything else. So the
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: family sitting around for an hour an hour and a
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: half after the game at least have a lounge of
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: some sort, access to something most they do now they
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: do now. I think the Bengals still have a tent
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: outside the stadium. I was at a Raiders game last year.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: They've got a section in the bowels of the stadium
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: that set up like a lounge with couches and recliners
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: for the family to sit in. I think the Broncos
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: have an area underneath by where the media enters in
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: this stadium where families can hang out.
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: Speaking of the Bengals in training camp, have you have
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: you been to Cincinnati's place before?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Did you? Guys?
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Ever, when you're in the same division, you didn't go
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: there right to I mean for joint practice, Yeah, anything
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: like that. This is awesome. They're outside of their where
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: the stadium is. That's where their whole practice is. And
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: it's literally underneath an overpass, right, same thing. I mean,
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: as you cross the river on the bridge, you look
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: down to your right, and they that's where they practice,
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: sucking in fumes and you know, the traffic and me
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: and all this crap, and I'm like, really, I mean
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: there next to the river.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: In the overpass, what are.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: You doing there? It's there are those elevated highways that
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: go over their facilities.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: We have that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: We have that same thing in Pittsburgh and sometimes people
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: would pull over on the side of the road and
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: watch practice.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: Hey Brown, you suck driving from.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: The highway A. Pittsburgh's move facilities. Since thence they've got
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: a more modern update. When Bengals are still kicking an old.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: School hey crap. I mean when I saw it, I
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: was like, this can't be real. No, that's that's where
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: they do their thing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So I do want to give you a second moge
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: to talk about the ownership group of the Dodgers, but
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I'll intro this with the battle that's happening in LA
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: for the Lakers right now, which is Jeenie Buss is
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the only of the five other siblings to be like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I do not want to sell our remaining steak in
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: the Lakers. And I don't know how this works. I've
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: watched Succession. It's a great show. I don't understand the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: business aspect of this, but they had seventeen point eight
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: percent of Lakers ownership steak that was left. Jeanie Buss
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: has now hired an attorney to basically go after her
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: own siblings right to go against the sale of this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Well, it's always my favorite line.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, when Pat Bollen had his Succession playing for the Broncos,
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: I know in his heart of hearts, it was all
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: drawn up with the very best of intentions. Okay, because
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: you're trying to find an equitable way to do this thing. Boy,
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: could I see that coming a mile away?
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: What? What? What was gonna go down?
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: I know that doctor Jerry Buss, he wanted Jeanie Buss
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: to run this. He wanted her to be the one
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: in charge. And the other siblings are just like, I
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: don't want to say hangers on or whatever, but he
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: wanted her. She's been the most involved. She's she's very
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: smart about things and so on and so forth. And
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: now she's got herself a legal mess. And I don't
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: know if you're a If you're the owner of the
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: team and you pass on and you have this succession
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: plan in place, I don't know how you make it
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: un suable, you know what I mean. Somebody's always going
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: to find a way to sue to try to get
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: more of what they want. Yeah, so I don't know.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: She Dobby.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: She does not want to.
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: Give up the shares and the other sibling, the four
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: of the siblings do. But she was the one that
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: he wanted to run the joint.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Well, and I'll be honest, I had no idea she
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: had five other siblings.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: I thought she was just in charge. She is in charge,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: and I can understand why she's passed, so can I.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's weird though, because that that ties into the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: other Los Angeles sale that's happening, and you know more
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: about these details than I do, because you read the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal most.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I advise Brett to pick up the Wall Street
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Journal pass. Has anybody in this tent ever picked up
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: the Wall Street Journal? Everybody but you, Brett Todd heard
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: so what you know?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You know why? You know why?
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Some stupid So this article today is fast if you
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: want to realize. And again I saw a great tweet
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: from a from a baseball guy too that all these
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: baseball sick of fans like you know, Jeff Passing and
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: all these guys, well, anybody could do what the Dodgers
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: are doing, they just do it best.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: When you read the kind of money move.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: That this guy allegedly has been doing, and I'm not
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: saying there's anything criminal about it at this point, but
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: the government, the government is up his tailpipe right now,
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: big time.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: On it sounds uncomfortable exactly.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: So he had to sell the Lakers because he reportedly
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: needs twenty billion dollars in cash by December thirty first
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: for what to pay off. He's taking money from insurance
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: policies and he's loaned that from that company to these
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: other companies. But he doesn't have the cash on hand
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: to pay off these insurance policies, so he's basically moving
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: stuff around.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Sounds like a Ponzi scheme.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Well, so the Feds are like, dude, you're gonna have
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: to pay these off with with You're not you're not
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: borrowing again from here to pay these pay you know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Robert Paul, to pay Peter and all this kind of thing.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: So this guy right now needs to come up with
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: tangible funds immediately. So and the Dodgers are are going
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: to be a part of this. I don't know if
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: you guys want.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: There was a Netflix documentary on that dude that ran
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that firefest that thing. Huh, this sounds like what happened
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: with that that he had to pay off guys, but
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: he would take loans from other people to pay off
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: the people he took a loan from, and then he'd
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: had to owe that, so then he took another loan
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: to pay off that person, and then it all blew
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: up obviously if.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: You look at what the Dodgers have done. Look, man,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: if you want to put me in charge of a
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: sports franchise, like a baseball franchise with no cap or
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: at this point is because it doesn't even really matter
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: if you learn in LA caps don't matter if you
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: want to do that with me. If I could just
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: borrow money from here and just keep shell gaming it
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: around to different entities, I'll get all the good players too,
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: and I'll defer a billion dollars worth of contracts, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: I'll win a World series back to back to back
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: and whatever else. But this article is fascinating because again
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: there's no alleged wrongdoing yet, but they're in there in him.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: But here's he needs to come up with this cash.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Here's the problem.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: What if you want to sell the Dodgers, you have
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to sell somebody on the idea that you're gonna owe
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: somebody seven hundred million dollars after they're done playing for
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the same if you that's a pretty tough sell.
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: If well, if you have the money to buy the
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: if you have the money to buy the La Dodgers.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: By the way, there's also a report that he went
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: to the cable company because the Dodgers have the.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Richest year TV deal.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he offered to let this company get out of
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: the broadcast contract by paying a lump sum to him
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: right now because he needs money right and they and
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: that if you guys, won't out pay me right now,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: thinking that'd be good, maybe they'll do that, and they're like, no.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: We're cool. So he's reverse mortgaging his reverse mortgage.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: It's it's blowing my mind. And people can't do what
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: the Dodgers did because they they're not doing this.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: And again I'm not saying, what do you know about
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: a helock homeack?
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Wut he line a credit?
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: I'm all over it, baby, but no, it's uh, it's
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: it's really fascinating. So no, ever, but he can't do
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: what the Dodgers are doing because he's doing it in
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: a way where he doesn't have the really the money
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: on hand because it's always owed to one of his
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: other companies.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Does this taint any of the Dodgers' victories for you?
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Does this matter to the fans? It feels very very
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: insider training, like it's in a Wall Street journal, not sports.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Dodgers fans love it because they're winning. I hate the Dodgers.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: I think I think it's crap and plus baseball is
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: broken and I hope we missed the entire year.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Next year, I want to see this guy deck out
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: the entire Dodger Stadium in solar to try and save
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: a few bucks.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Well, dude, anybody who buys the Dodgers is going to
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: have the money and will find a revenue stream to
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: pay show hey, seven hundred mill down the road. But
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: they've got they've got over a billion dollars worth of
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: deferred money on the books. So when you buy the
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: LA Dodgers, if you're paying whatever it is, ten million
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: dollars for the Dodgers, maybe more, you're an astillion, You're
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: then you're paying you're paying ten billion, You're paying eleven
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: billion because that money is going to do.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Jan You made an interesting point.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Has anybody defaulted on a contract before? Like has has
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: any owner not had the money to pay his player?
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I don't think so, not in a major sport. I know,
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: like some of those spring football leagues have folded, and
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: coaches and trainers and hotels and all that didn't get paid.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: But I don't think the NFL, I don't think baseball,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: I don't think the NBA.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I don't think hockey survived.
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, leagues that have survived. But Danissel, the Great
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: Danissel tells the story when he was playing in the ABA,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: was at the Baltimore clause something like that that on
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: pay day, the players would get their checks and they
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: would literally race to the bank.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: To cash the checks that they would get paid. Okay,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: so here I got a couple examples for you. In
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: twenty ten, the Texas Rangers, the team filed for Chapter
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: eleven bankruptcy due to owner Tom Hicks massive personal debt
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: outside the franchise. Large deferred compensation obligations were owed to
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: players like a rod and they were in the unsecured
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: creditor process. Though the league and incoming ownership stabilized day
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to day operations, so the Rangers had that. In twenty
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: ten the Pittsburgh.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: The league stepped into yes moving.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: On the Pittsburgh Penguins in nineteen seventy five and nineteen
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: ninety eight, franchise famously struggled with cash flow and missed
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: or delayed payroll obligations to players during ownership crises before
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: filing for bankruptcy and being rescued by Mario Lemieu and partners.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: I do recall that, yeah, and Lemieux came out because
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: they owed him a lot of money. So this is
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: he was owed a lot of money. So Lemieux became
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: essentially the owner, and then when the team was again sold,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: he was made whole and then some for sure.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: So lower tier in global soccer clubs in European soccer,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: such as English lower leagues or regional rugby and hockey clubs,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: cash strapped owners frequently default on payroll, leading to administration
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: point deductions or the club folding entirely. Now, how leagues
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: prevent that is? It says if an owner goes completely broke,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: major leagues like the NFL, NBA, or MLB will use
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: emergency powers to step in, remove control from the owner
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: and appoint a receiver to fund payroll in honor contracts
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: until a forced sale is completed. Which if that's happening,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I guess this is what's going to go down with
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers right now. Well, I mean, I'm sure there
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: are a lot of people who would like to own
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: I'm sure does baseball allow private equity like the NFL's allowing.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Them they do?
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, what the Dodgers, that's what sort of what they've
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: been doing with this guy running the show, this Mark
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Walter guy. It's just again when you see how the
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: sausage is made with the La Dodgers. It's it's not
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: just Hey, this is great sausage. That's great, you know,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: it's all Dodgers fans. I love this sausage. But when
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: everybody now can see the way the sausage was made,
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: it'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Well, and you pointed this out, Why can't anybody do
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: what the Dodgers are doing? I will say, in the
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: most recent case, the Scoopball trade was different. Anybody could
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: have traded for scooball given him a contract on that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: But as far as the entire roster that they've assembled,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: that's not just what anybody can do. Turns out, not
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: even the Dodgers can do that. But pretty I mean
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: pretty much.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I gotta give them credit because the creative
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: way they've gone about it in deferring the money and
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: the way they've assembled that team to win, now, it's
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: it's pretty creative. But it was not done in a
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: way from what I'm reading that is sustainable number one,
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: and number two maybe not ethical.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: Well, you wonder, like for all the third team, if the.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: Feds are up your backside, bro, they don't just go
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: wander and around looking at people's backside for fun.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: They are serious about this. Well, how many times have
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: we seen this over the last couple of years, Like
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics win a championship and then they sell.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: It's like, well we have to pay all these guys
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: now because we want a championship. All right, off in
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the sunset, you guys can deal with the payroll down
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the road. Like it's just it's it's a very odd thing.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Right here at Broncos Park, another day of Broncos training camp,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the last day for us here for training camp twenty
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: twenty six.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: Get her some final thoughts here when we come back.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I'll see all right one final time this year out
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: here Broncos Park for Broncos Training Camp. All training Camp
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: coverage is brought to you by Rama's Law And just
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: a reminder to everybody out there, football Chad, you know
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: this better than anybody.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: Football hurts. It hurts.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Uh. I was sent a picture this morning from Mike
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Sanford and it's the same photo that you see from
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of other people this time of year. My
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: daughter just had it this morning going to school, taking
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the first day of school picture on the front porch. Whatever, right, Well,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Mike Sanford's son had his It was his first practice,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: first game, and on the second play.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Busted both rists.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh oh my god.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Second, poor kid, Mike Sanford son is now in two
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: casts on both arms.
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: Who's wiping him, who's feeding him?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Here's my grapes on the table, and he just picks
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: him up with hungry, hungry hip hop.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: If I was I'd be doing this, I'd be like,
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I got which one do you want?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: You want? Tanya Tucker Conway Twitter either, I mean, unbelievable
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: first year of tackle football? Right, second play, first year
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: of tackle football. Both wrists, both risks that happen.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: I remember Mike Quick from the Eagles tore both buttell
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: attendons on that turf in the old stadium in Philadelphia,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: but both wrist. I'm curious about the did you put
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: both hands down?
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: What you had to be like falling, trying to brace yourself.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Somebody on top of them, Yeah, something like that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: Wow, that turf, that turf at the old Veteran Stadium
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: was It's like the old turf the Astronaut. It was
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: the junkiest, crappiest turf of all time.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: Michael's career.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, people, that turfing I'm sure amputated people and ended
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: a lot of cruise was awful.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Well, boys, this is our last day out here.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Uh and Chad, thanks for sitting in with us for
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the last three days very much.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: The reason I'm I'm not I'm not super sad because
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: you know we're missing things. But we've been out here plenty.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: I'm really happy that I don't.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Have to anymore.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: We listen, Listen, we've been out here for a few weeks.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Now. What's the biggest takeaway you've had from camp this
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: year with the Broncos. Start with you, Chad.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I think we saw in that first preseason game Davis
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Webb replacing Sean Payton as the play caller. It seemingly,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: at least upon first reports, gives us offense more rhythm,
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: more run pass balance, takes the best parts of Sean
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Payton's offense, and then brings a guy who was just
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: under center not too long, brings that touch to it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: What does a quarterback want? Give me the play in
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: enough time where I'm not doing the hand motion of
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: hurry up in the huddle. Give me time at the
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. Give me some run pass balance so
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: I can take a playoff, because if you ask me
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: to throw the ball forty times, then I can't take
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: a playoff. But to turn around and hand the ball off,
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: I get to breathe mentally for it and get to
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: reset my mind a bit. So I think that's probably
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: the biggest takeaway that I can take from training camp,
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: other than you know, being here and watching coaching tape.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: But based on a couple of days I've been, based
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: on the preseason game, that seems to be the biggest
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: major move.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: There is a serious nature about this camp. There's no
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: tickle fight, you know, grab butt going on, that kind
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: of thing.
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: These guys are putting.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: You know, lots of backsides.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're now right now, there is there's not a
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: lot of that going on.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: This is I mean, they're putting in the work and
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: they're I think this camp has been very efficient.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: That's what I've noticed.
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: There's a just a level of professionalism that a team
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: that went to the AFC title Game last year has
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: about what their mission this season is and what they
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: think they can accomplish. So I think that that has
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: permeated through all of these practices every single day, and hell,
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: we saw it against Atlanta last Friday, one team looked
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: serious about getting in football shape and getting football ready,
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: and one team looked like they were like they like
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: they just got off the plane from Cancun, knew what
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: the hell was going on. And the Broncos took advantage
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: of that, and they should have because in those the
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: early stages of that game, the Broncos dominated the Falcons.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I think if if you're looking for something that you
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: want to see the Broncos improve on from last year,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: because let's be honest, you make the AFC title game,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: you're the number one seed in the AFC, number one
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: seed in the NFL, you win fourteen games, there ain't
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: a lot to complain on. But I will say I'll
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Echoa Chad said that I think that the rhythm and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: tempo of the offense this year seems to be different
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: and something.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: That is more conducive to calm.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: We'll say within the offense, I think finding depth in
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the places that you needed to find them. One spot
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that I think is maybe lacking his tight end. I
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: haven't seen a lot of that through camp, and hopefully
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that shows its face here in the next couple of
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: weeks and into the regular season. But getting depth at
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: the linebacker spot. I think Red Murdoch and how he's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: performed in this it's been really good.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Your boy at.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: York is another one that I think can provide some
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: of that. And I'm super encouraged because I think to
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: me it was a priority of the offseason. It didn't
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: happen in free agency, and so you're crossing your fingers
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: and hoping that a backup running Mac that you can
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: believe in if Slash win JK. Dobbins goes down emerges.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I love to see what Jonah Coleman's put together here.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: And if you guys missed it, this is Davis Webb
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: yesterday on Jonah Coleman went out, had only four carries
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: in that first preseason game and then went to the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: bench for the rest of the game.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Why well, here's what Davis web said.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So this quote, all.
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: Right, put you back after that one run. We all
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: said on the headset, we're good. He did what we
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: needed to do. And he's been great the last three weeks.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Just like Sean said, he's been consistent and we've been
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: throwing a lot of installs at him and he's been great.
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: He's been handling that and yeah, We're satisfied with that
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: Tyre rootbout that they all ran really good the other
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: day because he aligne did a good job.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: There is something to the idea to me of if
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: you lose JK. Dobbins, who's a very effective runner, you
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: need to have confidence in people behind them.
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: And so far throughout camp.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: In the first preseason game, Jonah Coleman is shown to
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: be one of those guys.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: Hey, man, uh, I'm into Red Murdoch. I'm a big
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: murder guy. Number one, he's got a great name.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: True.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Number two, he's got great hair. True easy to spot.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Fifty with the hair. Easy to spot.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: This guy's at fifty with the good hair.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: This guy's also he's probably one of the smartest ever
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: Broncos in the history of the franchise. This guy was
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: just reading all about him. He was mister relevant right.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: He achieved perfect score in the Standards of Learning through
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: English exam in Virginia. He's a four Union Military Academy guy.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: This guy graduated.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: This guy was in college when he was in high
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: school at sixteen. He graduated at sixteen and started college.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: And this guy is smart as hell. Man, If he's
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: half as smart on the football field as he is
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: in real life. He's gonna make this damn team.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I am twenty twenty four. He earned a Bachelor of
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Arts in psychology. This guy's incredible.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: This guy, I think he's already smart from a football perspective,
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: because what's the most important thing on the field the ball?
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: What did he set an NCAA record at forcing fumbles
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: seventeen to fourth fumbles at Buffalo, So sacks are important,
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: tackles are important. Ball production is the most important thing
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: you can do as a defender, either forcing fumbles or
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: taking the ball away. So we got Red Murdoch forced
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: to fumble last week in practice, had got this great
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: record in college. We saw two interceptions in the first
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: preseason game. So the Broncos defense had a ton of
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: sacks but did not have great turnover numbers last year.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: So if Red Murdoch can they make that whole linebacker
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: room a more ball hungry, have higher levels of ball production.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: The dbs can catch the ball like they did on
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Friday night. This defense, which was great last year, can
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: be even better because if you take the ball away
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: versus a sack, we're really taking away forty yards of
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: field position. Because if you sack them on third down,
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: they still get to punt and they're gonna kick the
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: ball forty yards down. If you intercepted, you eliminate that
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: forty yard field exchange. You get your offense better position
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: the score.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: Drew Sanders has also missed the last couple of days.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: He's been held out. I don't know what is going
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: on there, even though we did play last Friday. So
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: hopefully he's fine. This is just a precaution everything. But
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: I just I like this kid. I want I want
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Red to make this team.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Man. I like that guy.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: In the meantime, having a fact checker, Nelly.
• 41:27
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• 41:39
  Speaker 8: You're an American, so you can plead the fifth if
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: you'd like to. But multiple times during today's show, we've
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: been talking about the scuffle between Bo Nicks and Nick Benito,
• 41:48
  Speaker 8: and you said that in your playing days, you saw
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: your teammates fight butt naked, soaking in water in the shower,
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: and what could have possibly possessed your teammates. What was
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: so important that you you couldn't wait till your shower
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: was over to start throwing bows.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: The fight on the field spilled into the locker room,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: and then it gets separated its shower time, and then
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: the two adversarial guys coming to the shower together, and
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: suddenly it's two naked men fighting in the shower well
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: on a soapy, slippery floor. And I'm like a team
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: captain trying to figure out how how do I get
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: in there? I mean, you see these referees with hockey
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: fights trying to figure out how to get in there.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: How do you get in there with two naked men
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: pustling in a shower? Where do you grab? What's your process?
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: What I'd do, I'd have I'd have another teammate, Right,
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: you grab one foot on the guy and you grab
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: the other foot on the guy and just slide him
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: across the floor that way apart from each other.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Uh, don't, don't get them.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Try the showers to cold.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Just start. You're not getting in the middle of that thing.
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Like put a but your your hot hose on a
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: two dogs that are stuck together in the front yard.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Whatever it takes, well, seems like you got it done.
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: So they were they had beef all season long. It
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: just didn't happen in the shower again. Thank you. Let's
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: keep the shower for showering purposes only.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: Big thanks to Chad Brown to join us the last
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: three days. Thank you, Chad. Appreciate the time.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow, I am not sorr final day out here at
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Broncos camp, but it continues here. D mack raj Columbus coach,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: all the different boys giving you the live stuff during practice.
• 43:31
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• 43:33
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• 44:01
  Speaker 2: learned with Chad two. You know what he is. He's
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: an a set.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: You are a total asset.
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: He's not an asset. I didn't mean to put the
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: emphasis on the asset part. He's an a set. You're
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: in a set song when you're in the booth this
• 44:16
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• 44:18
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• 44:21
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• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Brett Kane, have a wonderful Wednesday.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Love you see him