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Best of Chuck & Buck 10-3 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of Chucking Back in the Morning Sports Radio
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  Speaker 2: ninety three point three KJRFM. And not any Tuesday. It's
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  Speaker 2: Free Agency Frenzy Tuesday. That's right, Day number two of
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  Speaker 2: the forty eight hour extravaganza known as Tampa Fest twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six. Today we will spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 2: recapping Day number one, which was indeed as designed frenetic.
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  Speaker 2: So much to recap from yesterday from the National Football League,
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  Speaker 2: And we have a special guest in studio today which
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  Speaker 2: will tell you about and what's on tap that is
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  Speaker 2: going to make that happen. We will also cover the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the Seattle sports scene for you as well,
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  Speaker 2: which got a little spicy late last night. More on
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  Speaker 2: that coming up here in a moment. But we welcome
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  Speaker 2: you into our four hour radio program. Ashley Ryan is here.
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  Speaker 2: Former Mariner Bucky Jacobson is here. My name is Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio program. And maybe I should say
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  Speaker 2: it more this way. Stepping into the ring today, former
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  Speaker 2: Mariner Bucky Jacobson, fresh off of his professional wrestling outing
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  Speaker 2: with the family last night. Did you get Did you
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  Speaker 2: go home giving each other super lexus? Because that's usually
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  Speaker 2: what happened. No, but I did put both the kids
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  Speaker 2: in a sleeper hole night. It was a nice quiet
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  Speaker 2: ride home. You go to sleep anyway.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Gracie is tough boy.
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  Speaker 8: She did the whole cogan, you know, arm up and
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  Speaker 8: then you know when she was about to go out,
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  Speaker 8: still up there. She was not going Yeah, she wasn't
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  Speaker 8: going out. Easy Bear, on the other hand, total pushover. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: he might want to reassess his goals.
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  Speaker 5: He has.
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  Speaker 8: He has told me now multiple times that he's planning
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  Speaker 8: on playing in the big leagues after I'm done playing
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  Speaker 8: in the big leagues at twenty nine, because that's when
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  Speaker 8: I was done, not because I wanted to be done
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  Speaker 8: by the way son, because the game told me I
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  Speaker 8: was done. He's like, what I'm done, then I'm going
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  Speaker 8: to go be a pro wrestler.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and it happens a lot. Yeah, and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do that until I'm fifty. Is that right? Fifty?
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  Speaker 2: So thirty twenty one years of wrestling, Yeah, and just
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  Speaker 2: just a few years basically. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, I think he's planning on doing that, you
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  Speaker 8: know here soon, probably starting the big league career here,
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  Speaker 8: I don't know, after Little League twelve thirteen or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing on getting there quick.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think he quite understands difficulty in either one
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  Speaker 8: of these things.
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  Speaker 5: But he's eight.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna be in
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  Speaker 2: a cheeriop.
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  Speaker 7: I think he should think it's all easily at his fingertips.
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  Speaker 9: He can achieve it all. Yeah, you believe you can
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  Speaker 9: achieve well, any thing is possible. Kevin Garnett.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he thinks at this point.
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  Speaker 8: And the cool thing is, I think there will be
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  Speaker 8: some crossover his finishing moves all have to do with baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, well that'll make it easy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So like coming off one of his finishing moves, coming
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  Speaker 8: off the top rope, but like a head first slide
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  Speaker 8: but double punch.
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  Speaker 2: To the face.
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  Speaker 8: Nice, So the Pete Rose knocked you out type of thing.
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, And then he actually thinks another one.
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  Speaker 8: Physics is getting where he's just going to pick the
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  Speaker 8: person up by the ankles and swing them into the corner. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: you know, like a bat. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Homer, the
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  Speaker 8: human bat move. Yeah, the human bat move like human batflip.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And so I don't have it in me to tell
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  Speaker 8: him it's a rough go all the way around, but.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, do you think you can do it? Go
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  Speaker 2: do it? I get I get why he's sitting there
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  Speaker 2: saying all the show heo tani attention. I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: doing two things, but it's in the same word.
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  Speaker 9: That's hard.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine how big a deal I'll be once I'm a
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  Speaker 2: superstar major leaguer, and then a long twenty year until
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  Speaker 2: I'm fifty careers professional wrestling. Yeah, it's a great plan.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I don't know if I've Seena did it.
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  Speaker 8: Sena just retired, and he's like almost fifty.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I.
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  Speaker 9: Don't see any holes in the plan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, get it down and I'm going to tell you
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking him to the event. Didn't do anything to
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  Speaker 2: like quiet now those goals? No, no, not. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: surprised you got him to sleep.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's probably plotting out how he's going to start
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  Speaker 7: this whole thing.
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  Speaker 8: So the first half of the drive home went off
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  Speaker 8: the turd buckle and giving his stuffed animals headbutts. He's like, Dad,
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  Speaker 8: when we get home, I want to do a workout.
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, what, yep, I want to do some bench press.
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  Speaker 8: I gotta get my pecks bigger, because I think that's
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  Speaker 8: one of the things he noticed was they all have
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  Speaker 8: big pecks wrestling most of them. He wanted to do
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  Speaker 8: some bench press. And then we're getting on ten minutes
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  Speaker 8: from home and I hear a yawn. I'm like, you're tired.
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  Speaker 8: He's like, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to
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  Speaker 8: have enough energy to do a workout tonight. Dad, tomorrow tomorrow.
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  Speaker 8: Mom goes, you got jiu jitsu tomorrow. He's like, oh, okay.
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  Speaker 8: Then Wednesday. I said, you got baseball on Wednesday. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: we'll figure out a time for the workout.
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  Speaker 7: You'll get one in it in the next two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: By professional wrestling practice in there anywhere.
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  Speaker 8: That must be Sunday. Yeah, because he's booked until then.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a course provided at the why. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 8: know at least some online top turnbuckle. Yeah, yeah, practice.
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  Speaker 8: He just loves the acrobatics. To him, Like, dude, if
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  Speaker 8: you are a pro wrestler, acrobatics ain't going to be
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  Speaker 8: your thing.
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  Speaker 2: A black belt and professional wrestling, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: something Kate that's achieved. I'll tell you that. Yeah. Where
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  Speaker 2: you at on that one? Mom? Well that's fun fun.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, and I could probably talk about it
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  Speaker 2: for four straight hours, but we do have some other
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  Speaker 2: things to get to here on the radio program. Suddenly
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  Speaker 2: our Mariners team, with all of its hype, has turned
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  Speaker 2: into a professional wrestling drama scene. I don't know who
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  Speaker 2: the heel is, but don't go online if you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to hear you know your favorite catcher talked about poorly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because cal Rawley has kind of stepped in it. I
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  Speaker 2: guess with some Last night during the WBC game against
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  Speaker 2: Mech Mexico, he's catching Randy a rose Arena comes to
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  Speaker 2: the plate. Randy a Rosarina wants to say hello, wants
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  Speaker 2: to give knuckles to Cal Raleigh before a bat, and
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  Speaker 2: Cal just stone cold denied him. Nope, we're not teammates
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  Speaker 2: right now. Therefore I am not going to shake your hand. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And it's caused all sorts of anger on social media.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you disrespect a teammate like that? I don't
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  Speaker 2: care if it is WBC and at the time, you're
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  Speaker 2: wearing different uniforms, and so we got a we got
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  Speaker 2: a controversy on our hands here before the season even
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  Speaker 2: gets started. Courtesy of the WBC.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I don't know, I don't fully understand the
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  Speaker 8: crazy negative it's a it's not a good look. I
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  Speaker 8: mean the look just on the surface. You see Randy
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  Speaker 8: reach out to like shake hands or give knuckles or
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  Speaker 8: whatever he's wanting to do.
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  Speaker 2: I think he wants to shake.
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  Speaker 8: Hands, and and Cal just kind of denies it, and
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  Speaker 8: he says something to him.
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  Speaker 2: He said something. Apparently Randy did not was not pleased
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  Speaker 2: with it.
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  Speaker 8: So I basically went to bed last night, thinking well,
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  Speaker 8: it's not a beef. It's just we're getting ready to compete.
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  Speaker 8: We can shake hands and play grab ass afterwards. It
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  Speaker 8: used to be back in the day you would get
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  Speaker 8: in trouble for fraternizing with every team you like.
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  Speaker 2: Nowadays, I don't know if you saw.
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  Speaker 8: I think it was Puerto Rico and Dominican, like they
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  Speaker 8: had like a sore out behind second base before the game,
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  Speaker 8: Like everyone hugged everyone. It was a full blown, you know, session,
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  Speaker 8: like a party they had out there like that. Used
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  Speaker 8: to be like, no, it's it's game time. I played
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  Speaker 8: with plenty of buddies like that. I was really good
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  Speaker 8: friends with whether I played with them before we were teammates.
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  Speaker 8: At one point when we were going against each other
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  Speaker 8: right before the game, there was no there was no hey, buddy,
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  Speaker 8: what's up. It was we're playing and then afterwards, we're
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  Speaker 8: gonna go out and have some beer. So I didn't
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  Speaker 8: think there was much of it. Now it seems that
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  Speaker 8: Randy was not happy about it afterwards and had some
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  Speaker 8: words where I didn't think there would be beef. I
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  Speaker 8: thought it would just be no, they we're getting ready
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  Speaker 8: to compete against one another, and I guess.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: If there is some beef there that's not necessarily a
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  Speaker 8: good thing, I think they'll be able to squash it
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  Speaker 8: just simply saying, hey, dude, we were getting ready to
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  Speaker 8: go out here in battle on another you know this
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  Speaker 8: isn't this isn't fun and games. Then again, on the
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  Speaker 8: flip side of it, not a whole lot is going
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  Speaker 8: to be heard it to reach out and shake his hand.
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  Speaker 8: I will also say, I don't know if there was
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  Speaker 8: something said amongst players like hey, let's make this serious.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think that they would have to say that,
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  Speaker 8: or that they would have some email go around. But
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  Speaker 8: I know there was one another one with Randya rose
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  Speaker 8: Arena earlier this WBC. It might have been with Harry
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  Speaker 8: Ford against Great Britain where he reached out same thing
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  Speaker 8: leading off a game, reached out to shake hands and
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  Speaker 8: the catcher for the opponent for the other team was like, nah, no,
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  Speaker 8: not right now, not right now to do it. And
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  Speaker 8: so I don't think it's anything against Randya Rosorina specifically,
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  Speaker 8: but I know it's happened twice to him just in
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  Speaker 8: this w.
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  Speaker 2: Well to your point, I mean that was the old
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  Speaker 2: school mentality and that's just it. It depends on how
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  Speaker 2: you were raised in baseball, and if you were taught.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if Cal's dad, who hugged Randy in the
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  Speaker 2: hotel just earlier in that day when they ran across
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  Speaker 2: each other, if Cal's dad tells Cal, hey, when you're
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  Speaker 2: between those lines, if that's how he was raised, he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna handle it differently. And who knows if Mark de
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  Speaker 2: Rosa said something. Who knows what the marching orders were.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're going to be facing your teammates, but
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  Speaker 2: we're about winning a gold medal, and I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to hear any see any grab ass who knows what
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  Speaker 2: fed Col's actions yesterday. But there could be a very
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  Speaker 2: good explanation, And there could be that explanation might have
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  Speaker 2: already been given overnight to Randy, and maybe things have
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  Speaker 2: already smoothed over all of that said, I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like that look for Cal. I don't I
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  Speaker 2: think that you can put your game face on and
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  Speaker 2: in an exhibition tournament see a teammate. I would have
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  Speaker 2: liked to see him stand up and like pat him
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  Speaker 2: on the butt, I mean, just to show we're boys.
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  Speaker 2: But then you turn the page and then you get serious.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like it. I wish you would have just
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  Speaker 2: done it, because I personally, as a fan, like to
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  Speaker 2: see that sort of thing in a baseball game. It's
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  Speaker 2: not the World Series we're talking about the WBC. I
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  Speaker 2: mean we're being We're having family members ripped apart and
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  Speaker 2: then having to face one another when they were just
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  Speaker 2: sharing a clubhouse five days earlier. So I think those
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  Speaker 2: rules go out the window for me in that situation,
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  Speaker 2: and I prefer to see cal Rawley actually acknowledge this
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  Speaker 2: is my guy. You know, I can pat him on
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  Speaker 2: the butt, I can stand up, and then I can
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  Speaker 2: get behind the plate and we can try to strike
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  Speaker 2: him out. That said, those that have anger towards Cal
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  Speaker 2: on the internet, you clearly don't follow the Mariners and
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  Speaker 2: you have some sort of political agenda going on right
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  Speaker 2: now because you are out of your fing mind if
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  Speaker 2: you think cal Raley is an a hole like some
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  Speaker 2: of you are accusing him of being. He is the nicest, purest,
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  Speaker 2: coolest superstar in the history of professional sports. He is
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  Speaker 2: as good as it gets. He's the type of guy
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  Speaker 2: that we want to root for. You want your kid
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  Speaker 2: to have his Jersey number, and he will smooth things
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  Speaker 2: over for Randy. So all this vitriol that's existing right
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  Speaker 2: now on social media, I'm just going to chalk it
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  Speaker 2: up to you being ignorant and not idiotic. You're just
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  Speaker 2: ignorant to who you're talking about, because you are out
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  Speaker 2: of your mind if you're going to go from he
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  Speaker 2: snubbed Randy or Rose Arena with a handshake and a
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  Speaker 2: WBC game before in it back to Cal Raley's the
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  Speaker 2: worst person on earth. Calm the f down.
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  Speaker 7: Well, And I think that's why I when I brought
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  Speaker 7: it up yesterday, like that's what hurt me, I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 7: it's Cal. I just don't want that for Cal, because
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  Speaker 7: he is such a nice guy, such a leader. I
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  Speaker 7: would have, like you said, I would have at least
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  Speaker 7: liked to see him, like just put his glove up,
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  Speaker 7: give a little tap something to acknowledge him. I obviously
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  Speaker 7: we saw he said something to Randy. Apparently he said
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  Speaker 7: nice to see you. Randy really did not like that,
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  Speaker 7: apparently because he told him he could shove it somewhere
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  Speaker 7: or said that in this postgame rant about it.
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  Speaker 9: I just the one thing you don't want as.
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  Speaker 7: A Mariners fan is there to start off the season
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  Speaker 7: with any animosity between any of the guys in the clubhouse? Right,
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  Speaker 7: You definitely don't think you're gonna get any of that
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  Speaker 7: in the WBC. And I do think that if it
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  Speaker 7: was somebody other than Randy, they might not have taken
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  Speaker 7: it so personally. But Randy, I think, tends to overreact
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  Speaker 7: at times, and this is a situation where I think
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  Speaker 7: he's overreacting to the situation. But I wish that Cal
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  Speaker 7: would have at least seemed like, well, that's Randy. He
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  Speaker 7: might I don't want to make him mad, because he can,
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  Speaker 7: he can get a little angrier than some people.
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  Speaker 9: And then just tapped him up.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I think this is important to state as well.
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  Speaker 2: Do we really know what Randy's mindset was in that interview? Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I think he did say Cale can shove it or
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  Speaker 2: go to Hell or something like that. Yeah, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: he is angry. Maybe he is angry. I mean, Randy
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  Speaker 2: or Rose Arena is an emotional player and he has
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  Speaker 2: not always had great relationships with those in the clubhouse. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: now that maybe he did ruffle the feathers. Maybe Randy
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  Speaker 2: was embarrassed and he took it personally, and he stewed
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  Speaker 2: the entire game and could not wait to throw him
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  Speaker 2: under the bus. But there was also a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of a ry smile on his face. And there is
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  Speaker 2: a cultural gap. And I mean, are we interpreting it
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent the way that Randy meant it? Maybe
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  Speaker 2: that was him saying, as a WBC player with a
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  Speaker 2: Mexico jersey on, he can go to hell. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: do that to me. Maybe he wasn't as serious and
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  Speaker 2: nasty as what he what it sounded like, because he
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  Speaker 2: did sort of bucky. He had this little grin on
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  Speaker 2: his face as he was saying it, and in the
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  Speaker 2: same breath he was talking about how much he loves
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  Speaker 2: Cal's parents for goodness sake. So I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it's much to do about nothing. Maybe Randy sort of
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  Speaker 2: understood where Cal was coming from. And he's not as
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  Speaker 2: angry as what people interpret him.
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  Speaker 8: I guarantee he's not as angry as it came across
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  Speaker 8: just based on the words, right, I mean, it's all
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  Speaker 8: translated down to, yeah, he can go to hell, or
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  Speaker 8: he can stick that stick that good to see you
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  Speaker 8: up his butt or whatever. I mean, it's there is
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  Speaker 8: a little bit of a rice mile I can, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: none of us. Like everybody's put their hand up for
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  Speaker 8: a high five and you get left hanging right and
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  Speaker 8: it's kind of embarrassing, right if people see it. You
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  Speaker 8: don't want to do that on national TV and keep
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  Speaker 8: doing there. And so I think that they'll probably have
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  Speaker 8: a little bit of something if they haven't already, like
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  Speaker 8: some sort of that's not cool, dude, leave me hanging
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  Speaker 8: right there in front of the world. On the flip
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  Speaker 8: side of it, I can guarantee you it is just
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  Speaker 8: it's just as simply it's based simply on on how
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  Speaker 8: are you raised and what are you thinking?
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  Speaker 2: Like when do you get into game mode?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 8: I mean I see guys bs in at first base
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  Speaker 8: in the middle of playoff games and.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, how are you?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I would talk to guys at first base,
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  Speaker 8: but I was trying to get in their head. I
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  Speaker 8: was trying to I was trying to get them out
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  Speaker 8: of what they're doing. Josh Naylor talks about I don't
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  Speaker 8: talk to guys at first base. I'm thinking about what
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: I'm doing. That's why he can steal thirty bags when
• 16:25
  Speaker 8: he's slow, you know, is he's thinking about things that
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: are going on in the game. This isn't it's weird
• 16:30
  Speaker 8: because it's an exhibition, it doesn't really count. But in
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: a way it counts more than most certainly more than
• 16:36
  Speaker 8: some regular spring training game that you would be playing
• 16:39
  Speaker 8: against a buddy of yours.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't drawn Kala draw on the
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: lines of competition. Yes, that's it.
• 16:47
  Speaker 8: And if he doesn't, if he if he thinks that
• 16:49
  Speaker 8: it was a slight then yeah, maybe they'll have a
• 16:51
  Speaker 8: conversation about it. It is not going to be beef
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: in the clubhouse. I don't think there's not going to
• 16:55
  Speaker 8: be any And I saw some other people talking about, well,
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: he didn't want to get pine tar in his hands,
• 17:00
  Speaker 8: you know, give the ball, so schemes would have pine
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: tarn like that is.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Just absolutely ridiculous.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: You know, he would love to get pinetar in his
• 17:07
  Speaker 8: hands and put that on the ball to give to scheme. So,
• 17:10
  Speaker 8: I mean, the whole thing is a bit of an overreaction,
• 17:12
  Speaker 8: which is social media in and of itself is typically
• 17:15
  Speaker 8: going to be an overreaction if there's any seriousness to
• 17:18
  Speaker 8: Randy Rosea being irritated or bitter about it. I guarantee
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: it gets smoothed over because it's and by cow, yes,
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: by cow, because it is just simply a I drove
• 17:27
  Speaker 8: line where my competition starts. And it isn't when the
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: first pitch is being thrown. It's when I step on
• 17:33
  Speaker 8: the field and we're getting ready to stay play ball.
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: It's you know, we're not teammates at this point in time,
• 17:38
  Speaker 8: even though even though you are, so it's a bad look.
• 17:40
  Speaker 8: I wish that he hadn't done it as well.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I just wish he would have done it. I get it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, but there is old schoolman. I mean, Jackie
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: Robinson quit before he put he got traded to the Giants,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: and he was like, nope, I quit.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: No.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the old school mentality is like no,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I do hate them, I do hate the opponent. And
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: so and I know that Kyl doesn't hate Randy, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I know he doesn't hate Mexico. But if you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: if his head that you have to draw the lines
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: of competition beforehand, and that includes not fraternizing even with
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: friends and teammates of your major league team, then so
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: be it. There were a lot of people by Mike
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Cameron responded on social media with laughy face like emoji's,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: like he thought it was hilarious. So there are a
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: lot of old school people that saw Cal's snubbing of
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Randy in that moment as hilarious. Dudes drawn the lines
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: of competition. Obviously a lot of other people, though, were offended.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was interesting to watch just to see
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: how people got so bothered by it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: I kept looking for another video of a different angle
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: because I wanted to see Randy's face after it, to
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: see if he was like smiling or you know, kind
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: of giving that like half smile that you were talking about,
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: to see how he had reacted to it. And I
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: wish I would have known what Cal said, but you
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: could see that Cal said something pretty lengthy to him
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: not and it was and it seemed good nature, just
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: like hey man, you know whatever you could assume you
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: would say. It didn't seem like anything of like where
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: enemies are? You know, shove it up your butt? And
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: so I don't know. I think it all got blown
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: way out of proportion on social media, for sure, But
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: then it is hard to see Randy tell him to
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: go to hell in two languages and then shove it
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: up his butt in another language, I mean or not
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: you know, into the Cubans, the Mexicans in English. When
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: he says I'm going to say this in four languages,
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: I don't know. It is hard to fix.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: You don't know. Maybe he's being cheeky himself. Maybe that's
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: his version of snubbing him, and he's trying to, you know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: tongue in cheek it. I mean, who knows. And even
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: if he's not to Bucky's point, it'll get smoothed over.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: If Cal's a leader at all, he will reach out
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to Randy, and maybe he already has and say, dude,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: that was nothing personal. That was just me getting into
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: game mode. I love you. Can't wait to win a
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: World Series with you. I'm gonna buy you a watch. Well,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: something like that will be done and it will be fine.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I thought there was a lot bigger concern of them
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: last year. Yeah, talking by each other. Yeah. Then I'm
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I'm worried or bothered by what I saw last night.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And maybe it won't be the end of it. Maybe
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: there'll be some other examples of this going forward. All right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: let's find out what's on tap for the rest of
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the show today. What's on TEP.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: What's on TEP.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't planning on that being such a big
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: topic today because we have a football show planned for
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you today, Tampa Fest Crazy Day number one. We'll recap
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: it with Greg Bell from the Seahawks perspective at seven
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: o five and then at eight o'clock we clear the
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: decks for our NFL insider, Mike Sando is coming into
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: studio from the Athletics. So two hours with Mike recapping
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: day number one, keeping you up to date with what's
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: going on in day number two two, and also trying
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: to figure out how the Seahawks plug the holes. So
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: we're going to have a lot of football talk. It's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: a free agency fringy frenzy specialty tampering show starring Mike
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Sando today here on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Raiders went nuts yesterday in free agency. So did the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Titans to a degree. The Rams had another active day,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: adding another good defensive player to their secondary. Meanwhile, the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers signed Mike Evans. All things that we'll
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: discuss with Mike Sando. Cracking are in action against the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Predators tonight. They are at home the Crack and I
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: thought for sure, with this kind of gap in the schedule,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: they were heading on the road, but nope, it's at
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Climate Pledge Arena this evening. So we're gonna wake up
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Everett a little bit earlier today. He'll join us at
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: seven point thirty. We'll talk about the addition of Bobby McMahon,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: me and Bobby McMahon and whether or not McMahon is
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: scheduled to make his debut for the Crack and tonight.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: College basketball Big Tourney starts today at two pm. The
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Big Ten Tourney, I should say, and you dub won't
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: play until tomorrow at eleven thirty am against USC. Meanwhile,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the Zags did win last night. They took out in
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the WCC Oregon State sixty five to fifty six. Meanwhile,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Saint Mary's was upset by Santa Clara seventy six to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: seventy one. So the conference tournament championship game will be
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: played tonight between the Zags and Santa Clara at six pm.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And if you're wondering if there's a lot on the line,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: might be for Santa Clara. According to Joe Lonardi, they
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: are one of the last four in in his bracketology. Meanwhile,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: despite the Los Saint Mary's is in easily according to Lenardi,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and we know the Zags are in easily right now.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: He has them as a four seed in his bracketology selection.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Sunday is in five days, so March Madness is nearly here.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And from the WBC, US did win the game last
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: night five to three against Mexico, but it wasn't easy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Kind of like to have that Jared Durant on our
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: team this year. They'll take on the US that is
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Italy tonight at six o'clock. So we'll see if Cal
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: snubs dominant canzone and Miles Masterbony tonight he will he
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: will fine, or he'll just like bear hug them. He'll
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: go the other way, the other extreme. All right, Coming
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: up next though, we recapped Tampa Fest Day number one.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: What did the Seahawks do? What did they not do?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: You probably already know, so we'll provide analysis. Sports Radio
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: ninety three point three kh A r F M. Damn
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: me for my mistake right there. I didn't mean to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: mistake you for a hole.
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: Are you surprised I didn't pick up on that one? No,
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: I didn't know what garbage or the song was named.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: Whole.
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: The band is whole.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, Holy Lewis Lewis, Okay, that's Courtney Love.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Courtney Love. Oh yeah, not to be mistaken for garbage ever. Okay,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you at all. I do like the response
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell at seven oh five headlines at seven o'clock.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: We do have a hole and it's garbage. We don't
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: have a running back right now. How are the Seahawks
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: going to fill it here in the coming day. Something
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: tells me they're not all that worried about it. Kenneth
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Walker is now a Kansas City chief, and something tells
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: me John Schneider and Mike McDonald have a pulse that
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: has not raised over this particular issue. But certainly we
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: are trying to figure out who's going to carry the
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: ball for the Seahawks next year. I can almost guarantee
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: they're going to draft a running back. I think they
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: will end up with more than four picks before all
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: this said and done. I doubt they're going to draft
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in the first round, so I would imagine it'll be
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a Day two running back once they fill their stores
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: with more second and third round picks between now and
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: draft days. So I think that's something they're certainly going
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to do. But I think they'll add a veteran as well.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: How crazy will they get. Let's discuss one name that
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: certainly has been thrown out there is Alvin Kamara. The
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints added Travis Eten yesterday, added him for
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: even bigger money than what ken Walker had in terms
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: of long term and so Alvin Kamara doesn't seem to
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: have a job. Alvin Kamara also is no longer Alvin
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Kamara three point six yards per carry last year. He
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: had four hundred and seventy one yards on the season
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and only had five point six yards per catch just
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: across the board like devastatingly all time lows for Kamara,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: who at age thirty might have hit that wall. Or
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: at age thirty is playing on the worst team he's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: ever played for, and teams aren't going to let Alvin
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Kamara beat them. And maybe he does have a little
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: bit left in the gas tank and you can get
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: him for dirt cheap, probably would have to give up
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: a seventh round pick. As a matter of fact, most
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: people think he's just going to be waived and entered
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: into free agency. But if you didn't want to risk
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: that you wanted a trade for him. You can probably
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: get him for a sing round pick.
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: Today, he seems like I got I mean, I've always
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: liked him, but then again, he was crazy. I mean
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: I probably run it through the filter of having him
• 26:08
  Speaker 8: on my fantasy league a few times and catch him
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: all out of the backfield. Yeah, so I think that
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: he does have something. He does bring something. You're very
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: rarely are you going to be out there looking for
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: even if it's in the draft. You're not looking for
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: somebody that you're going to hand the ball to thirty times.
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: You're looking for a piece to the running back puzzle. Uh,
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: and you've got to fill who the number one spot is,
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: or the one A or one B whatever it might be.
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: Hoping that uh, Charbonny comes back and is the same
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: guy that you had there. I think he could bring
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: something to the table. I would be interested based on
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: where the new offensive coordinators coming from, having watched Christian
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: McCaffrey catch the ball out of the backfield and be
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: as effective as he is. Alvin Kamara can do that.
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: I mean, yet, you're right, the numbers were way down,
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: but he was hurt. He maybe has lost a bit
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: of a step, but as a as an option where
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: I think that that's.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Where they're going to go.
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: Oh, they just weren't going to go out there and
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: say we're paying top of the market free agent money.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to do that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: Period.
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: You can find a guy that you think can be
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: a contributor and then if you get more out of him, great,
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: If not, then you're obviously you're going to have somebody
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: else in the mix contributing as well well.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: If you want to clear cut RB one, I mean,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: pay the freight for Devin h Chan from Miami. I mean,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: how exciting would it be to add him to this offense.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Offense with his explosive, big play making ability. And he's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: not some smurf. He'll run between the tackles. As a
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, Mike McDaniel ran him between the tackles
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: way too much so far in his early career. But
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins are clearly rebuilding. He's only got one year
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: left on his deal. You probably have to give up
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a third round pick, maybe a second round pick in
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: order to get him, But that solves the running back issue. Yeah,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: right there, We're not worried about running back anymore, right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: And then you still get Zach sharbone back at some
• 27:52
  Speaker 7: point in the season, so yeah, you're set.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: And then you draft a bruiser kind of you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: one b running back, change of pay rookie, you do that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: So that's an option. Josh Jacobs I mentioned last week,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: may be able to get him on the cheap. Of course,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: he comes with a really big salary. Joe Mixon's a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: free agent, Rashad White's a free agent. Isaiah Pacheco as
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: a free agent, might kick the tires on that. Something
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: tells me, I doubt anyone on that list is going
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to be a Sea Hawk, but I will throw some
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: name out there at you. As a matter of fact,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about this one. Keaton Mitchell. Keithon
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Mitchell is the speedback that just hasn't been able to
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: stay healthy with the Baltimore Ravens. But in terms of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: you know, when you watch him play and he gets
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: in the open field, I mean there's juice. Like there's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: juice and few running backs out there. And so where
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: did Mike McDonald come from. He came from Baltimore, where
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I know they loved him. In Baltimore. They just couldn't
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: keep him healthy, and suddenly Derrick Henry was demanding twenty
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: five touches a game. But they're going to release Keith
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Mitchell and Baltimore this week. He's going to become an
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: unrestricted free agent. He's not like your number one workhorse
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: kind of guy. But if you do draft a number
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: one workhouse, a workhorse type of guy, and then Mitchell
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: is your speed change of pace, that's pretty interesting. Think
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: you could get him financially on the cheap. He's just
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: looking for an opportunity to show what he can do.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And maybe Mike McDonald, who remembers him from his Baltimore days,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: maybe there's an affinity there.
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: Who knows, Yeah, I would be willing to bet that
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: he you know, he knows well. He definitely knows him,
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: And you're right, he is fast. I can remember watching
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: him kind of break loose a couple different times. He
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: hasn't gotten a ton I mean, I don't know if
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: he's even been a starter yet. I mean, he just
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: is a guy that gets a couple of snaps in there,
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: you know, doesn't play a whole heck of a lot.
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: But I think that's the way in which they're u.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Becoming the starter in Baltimore before they got Henry, and
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: then he got hurt right as he was starting to
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: ramp up, and then he's been rehabbing and sitting behind
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Henry ever since. Yeah, well it'd be interesting to see.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think that's the way that they're gonna
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: address it is basically some sort of approven commodity which
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: maybe they're hoping still has some gas in the tank,
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: maybe another guy like this that they think hasn't reached
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: his potential yet, and then drafting somebody they're gonna have.
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: I mean, the running back room right now maybe feels
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: like it's not doesn't have anything. Is that the Jacardia?
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: Is that how Jaccardi a right? That kind of was
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: out there last year, that's in house at this point
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: in time, they're gonna have options. It's not like they're
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: they're just like, oh wow, well, I guess we just
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: don't have a running back at this point.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: They have some guys that they like, and they're just
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: not gonna spend the big money on them.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 30:39
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• 31:07
  Speaker 7: I don't know this was I mean people, we told people.
• 31:11
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• 31:14
  Speaker 8: Well, that's better than tamp on, better than waiting too
• 31:17
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• 31:20
  Speaker 8: would you wait too late? I mean there's a time
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• 31:28
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• 31:32
  Speaker 2: free agents out there, and uh, still some unknowns. So
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: we'll get into it with Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: at seven o five, So in a couple of minutes here. Also,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: our NFL insider is going to join us in studio today,
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sando's going to be with us. Really kind of
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: feel like, uh, I should have like bought bagels or something. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: our bagel shops open when we drive in, they're not
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• 32:28
  Speaker 2: has to decide between the two. No, he's definitely not
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: going to decide between the two. He's going to do both. Yeah.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: First, he's going to play in the big leagues just
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: till he's twenty nine, and then he wants to have
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: a twenty one year professional wrestling career. And he's got
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: all of his finishing moves worked out right.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: And he will.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: He actually the wrestlers he doesn't like right now, he
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: has already said I am going to do this to
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: him when I get there.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That dude's not going to still be there.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, not after a twenty nine year or not after
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: a thirteen year major.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Twenty one years from now.
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you got a long time.
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: It's a long.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Time for mankind to hold on.
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: Mankind still there now out.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: There WBC US one over Mexico yesterday five to three.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Weren't that easy, but the US does win. They remain
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: undefeated in pool play, and they conclude pool play tonight
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: against Italy. It'll be Cal and Gabe Spire against dom
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Canzone and Miles Mastra Bony and the first pitch will
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: be thrown out at six o'clock. Yes, there was a
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: little bit of controversy yesterday. Cal Raley did not shake
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the hand of Randy A. Rose Arena when he came
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to the plate. It has made all sorts of people
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: livid on social media. Of course, we'll try to find
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: more time talk about it later in the show. I
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: didn't like it. I didn't like it for Cal. I
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: think he should have done it, But clearly he's just
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: a guy that had drawn the competitive lines in the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: sand and wasn't gonna do that, not for Randy A
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Rose Arena or any of his former Mariner teammates throughout
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: this process. But of course people live to overreact. I'm
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: sure they will smooth it over. Even though Randy rose
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Arena did seem to say some choice words in his
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: postgame comments yesterday about cal I think there was a
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: little bit of an element of tongue in cheek, but
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of people disagree with that. They think he's angry.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Certainly something worth monitoring. College basketball. The Big Ten Tournament
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: starts today at two o'clock. U doubill play tomorrow against
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: usc and they'll tip that off at eleven thirty at
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the United Center in Chicago. Meanwhile, the Zags are back
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: in the championship game. They played for the first time
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: in their tournament last night. They won, so they'll take
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: on Santa Clara, who upset Saint Mary's last night. Seventy
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: six to seventy one was the final score there. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: tip tonight and the WCC Championship at six o'clock. Although
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Joe Lenardi seems to think that all three of those
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: teams are going to get into the NCAA tournament field,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Santa Clara might actually need a victory tonight in order
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: to secure their place in the NCAA tournament. Going to
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: take on the Predators tonight. They're gonna drop the puck
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: at seven o'clock. Everett fits, you will join us later
• 35:05
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• 35:09
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• 35:11
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• 35:14
  Speaker 2: point thirty. Is this the night that Bobby McMahon, the
• 35:17
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• 35:21
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• 35:25
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• 35:31
  Speaker 2: My goodness, you don't have to tell NFL teams to Tampa.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: That was one busy frickin' day. Yesterday the Raiders signed
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: like nine guys. The Tennessee Titans were incredibly active. The
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Rams added another defensive back in their quest to try
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to defend JSN going forward, first Trent McDuffie the Husky,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and then Jalen Watson yesterday the koug So they have
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: gone all Pacific Northwest in their secondary in Los Angeles. Meanwhile,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers signed Mike Evans, pretty significant to
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: move there by the forty nine Ers, the veteran wide
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: receiver leaving Tampa for the first time in his career.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Seahawks re signed Rashid Shaheed and Josh Job. They watched
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker leave for Kansas City, Kobe Bryant for Chicago,
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: and boy A Mafe for Cincinnati. And now we get
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: ready for day number two of the Tampafest. Joining us
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: as our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell with the bell tolls.
• 36:32
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• 36:52
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• 36:53
  Speaker 2: That's good to hear Greg Bell survive Tampafest. It was
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: a little close, a little touch and go. He didn't
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: answer the phone for the first the first ring, so
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: maybe he was just exhausted, Maybe he was laid out.
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: You know it probably was trying to mix it. He
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: was getting it all mixed up with his six other phones,
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: because I think he has a Tampa phone, all free
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: Tamper phone, a Tampa phone, a free agency phone, a kid's.
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: Phone, phone, paper phone.
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, guys, I didn't mean to put you through that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You all right, Greg, everything good, I'm good And I
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: wrote six stories yesterday. That's just another day.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no big deal, No big deal. Uh well, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: would think that the headline revolves around losing Walker but
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: keeping Rashid Shahhed. What do you make of that exchange?
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Greg, Well, when this whole process started, I thought that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Shaheed would be the first one to sign.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Yes, I did. I think I said that numerous I
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: know I wrote.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: It, and it was because one, I know he wanted to,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and too, I know they wanted to, and I thought
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: they you and equally valued him different than the rest
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of the league. But I didn't expect him to pay
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: seventeen million dollars a year for him. So what ended
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: up happening, obviously was mc schnyder made it the priority
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and the resources towards she Heed in lieu of everybody else,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: almost everybody else. We also talked to us about how
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Josh Job was the most resignable at the lowest cost.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: They got good value there at eight million.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: A year for three years for a corner still in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: his twenties, as a starter who they really like. His
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: man de man coverability, McDonald basically thinks with Job, he
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: can just keep him on his own against the guy
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and scheme everything else around the rest of the defense.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: And Josh Job, you got this guy. So I was certain.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I was pretty sure they were going to keep him.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: But with the money they ended up paying she Heed
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: at seventeen million a year for it basically a specialist,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that's a lot.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: And that's why they didn't even.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Come close to offering kind of twalk or something to stay. Although,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: as I wrote yesterday at the News Tribune, I started
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: to think in September that he would leave for five dollars,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: let alone fourteen and a half million, fourteen point three
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: million a year. Once that job share with Jack Sharbonnay
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: came in during a contract year, he wasn't exactly thrilled
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: with that. And then when Kobe Bryant gets a contract
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: from the Bears that was well above the safety mark,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: he reset the market. Cam Kurr with the Rams this
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: past weekend was twelve million a year at three for
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: thirty six million, and Brian got above that from the Bears.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks were not even Snyder had no interest in
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: resetting the safety market. Maybe one of the most ridiculous
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: contracts as far as overpaying in the entire league gets today.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: There were three hundred and thirteen transactions, most of them
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: teams signing outside free agents. Maybe the most ridiculous one was.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Boy Mafy for twenty million to the Bengals.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: He played fifty percent of the stabs for Seattle, he
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: had just two sacks. He has had nine sacks before
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: in one of his previous seasons with the Seahawks, But
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars for a part time player. The Seahawks
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: were never going to even approach that. He might not
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: even be worth a third of that to them. So
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: the Bengals losing Trey Hendrickson just went beyond anything Snyder
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: would have been comprehended to have. So you can see
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: how all the other guys leaving made sense. The Shaheed
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: deal is interesting to me because now with Tory Horton
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: coming back, they have two speed guys at receiver. How
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: much can Shahe get that much better with a full
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: training camp, with Sam Darnold establishing a report in the
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: past game and will we see a more offensive impact
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: from Shahed Shihit Rashid steat in twenty twenty.
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: Six well, I guess I would have to think based
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: on the fact that they went to seventeen. I mean,
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: we were all kind of thinking, boy, when the market
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: was talking about fourteen, that makes be a little bit more.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: But that was kind of basing.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: I was based in my opinion on things that i'd heard,
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: and then just kind of where his numbers lie. And
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: yet the numbers maybe they're obviously thinking.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: You would think with the seventeen.
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: Million dollars that there's there's room for growth, not just
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: as a as a specialist or as a guy returning kicks,
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: but as a guy that can take the top off
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: the defense. So I mean, what is the probability of
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: him being a legit number two receiver because that's what
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: they're paying him as.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, I mean, well they're paying him for
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: both of his skill They're paying him primarily for his
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: kick return skills. But it's seventeen million not just going
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: to put him on the field for kicks.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: He is going to be in the offense.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: He's making more than Cooper Cup, former NFL MVP sup
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: A role MVP and Offensive Player of the Year. So yes,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: they're going to feature him with the offense and the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: role will be deep shots down the field, loosen defenses
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to keep him from ganging up on Smith and Jigba,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And now they have two guys who do that. And
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Schnyder will tell you that when they traded for Shahed
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in November, that was the plan. He saying that when
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: they really got into the negotiation with the Saints on
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: who to take to acquire Shhed, they envisioned him and
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Horton together being two speed guys to deep threat stretch
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the defense. And then, of course Horton was out for
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the year with the shin injury about the same time
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: they ended up consummating the deal with Shahed. So this
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: goes back to what at least Snyder said the original
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: intent of acquiring Shihed was. When he gave two first
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: third day picks to the Saints, his intent was to
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: sign him. He talked to his agent before this even
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: went down and before they even acquired him in a trade,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: what it would take salary wise to keep him, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: then he exploded. He did what he did the Rams
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: game we've talked about, the forty nine Ers Divisional playoff game.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: The whole world got to see him on a super
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Bowl stage, and the value wet way up. This is
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: another example get another of a Super Bowl tax, a
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl inflation of a team having to pay more
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to keep its own championship players once it wins it all.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: There's no way Rashid Schaheat would have been fetching seventeen
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: million dollars if the Seahawks went out or didn't even
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs or went out for one game.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider again. His
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: complete coverage of Day one of Tampafest available to you
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: there at the Newstribune dot com and of course you
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: can follow Greg on x at gmail Seattle. He's with
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: us here again this morning to talk about everything going on,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: what he's hearing, and let's talk about that running back situation.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: So here's who came off the board yesterday, Ken Walker,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Travis atn JK Dobbins, Kenneth Gainwell, Tyler al Jeeir, and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Rico Dowdell. They're all gone. They're all with the new
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: teams at this point. So here are the Seahawks without
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Zach Charbone a while as well. What is the plan
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: at running back?
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. They thought it was going to
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: be back Sharbona coming back and being the heir parent
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to Kenneth Walker, and now he may not be back
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: to November. So Brian Robinson's still out there available. He's
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: just he's twenty six years old. He fits the profile
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: of a second wave free agency acquisition that wouldn't cost
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: as much and still in his twenties.
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: But with this position and the injury.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: History that we've talked about, who knows, they could draft
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and they could go with committee. They could go draft
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: running back. I mean, Chris Carson was a seventh round pick.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls, the multi year starter for them, wasn't even drafted,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie free agent. There's all kinds of ways
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: they can go. They've they've gone high in the draft
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and not highest, not first round, but the second round
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: on back to back years with Walker and Charbonnet. And
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: they've gone to the back of the draft with Chris Carson.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: So they do have to have a plant. They do
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: have to. I can't see that. I'm not augmenting that position.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I just don't see it for a ton of money.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: What's weird about this free agency stuff now is we're
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: already in the second wave. The second wave I was
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: joking with a writer friend of mine.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: At that happened yesterday a lot.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this Dangles writer and I was talking to my
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati friend and we were joking that the second wave
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: of free agency is now four pm on the Monday.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: It used to be a couple of weeks into it,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: but now we're already into the second wave. They were
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: dudes yesterday signing who were barely on rosters a year
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: or two ago. I mean talking about secondary free agents.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: They were a ton that signed yesterday. They were not
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: at all considered to be first wave prime free agents.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: And there wasn't anything that happened really last night. It's
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: like they got tired. We've done enough today, let's call
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: it a day.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of it's at Some of it's that the
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: agents that leak deals that aren't yet official to the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: media pack.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: It up and don't do it in the middle.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Of the night and back on the East Coast attends
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: around eight o'clock or so. Some of it's that too.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: We haven't talked about.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Is Riek Wallen's still available and he's a wild card
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: in the whole cornerback market. How much is he going
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: to get paid? Is he going to get paid based
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: on his skill, a physical skill, and perhaps it's still
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: ceiling as somewhat of a raw talent that remember, he
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: didn't start playing cornerback go halfway through his college career
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: at Texas San Antonio. It is interesting and the way
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: this breaks, the longer he goes unsigned, I would think
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the more chances rise that he could come back to Seattle,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it would have to be a discount well beyond what
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: the top of the market for the cornerback position. But
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: it is at least intriguing that Riek Wallen. It's funny
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: to say still available only one day agency the last
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: all year, but he is still out there.
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: I got one more just on the running back round.
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: I just wondering what your thoughts are on some of
• 47:07
  Speaker 8: the guys that are in house. I mean the Vilas, Jones,
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: Junior Jaccardi A right, those guys very limited amount of
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: touches last year, but do they like what they saw
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: out of them before they either got dinged up or
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: just didn't get the opportunities.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Well, cam acres Is also was there on the practice
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: squad and they've signed him back to a futures contract.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Dallas Jones is someone they've signed to a futures contract.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Those futures guys are guys they've signed for the off
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: season and training camp. Doesn't mean they're going to be
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: on the roster, but it means they're under club control
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: under the ninety man offseason roster. So cam Acres was
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: a number one back with the Rams a couple of
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: years ago. I always had in the back of my
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: mind of someone that at least has done it in
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: game plan. And then the guy for a short period
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: of time inside the NFC West, George hallani me and
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the more importantly the Seahawks coaches when he was pressed
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: into a higher role coming off injury at the end
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: of last season. I mean, he was making dudes missing
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and he wasn't just a third down
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: blocking back. They were actually throwing him. Sam Darnold was
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: throwing him the ball in the Super Bowl. He's an option.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Kenny McIntosh, he's coming off the ACL tear that he
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: got in late January. At the beginning of training camp
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: last year was a couple of days in twelve months.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Is that would be the start of training camp this year?
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: What can they count off with Kenny McIntosh. They really
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: love him, but he's been uninjured reserve two of the
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: three years he's been in the NFL with them. He
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: can't count on him, but he at least is an
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: option if he comes back healthy from that injury. It's
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: not like they have nothing, but none of it's proven
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: except for camp Akers, so he could go that way.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Snyder and McDonald could go to the committee route at
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: running back with in house options and until they hope
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Charvonny comes back.
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: No.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: At the league scouting come by a couple weeks ago,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: McDonald was sounding optimistic about sharbone is, saying they're coming
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: out of the surgery. There was talk he may come
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: back on the shorter end of recovery time, but even
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the best case of ACL tears are usually eight to
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: twelve months. Eight months from January is mid September, and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that's well into this season than without any training camp.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: How much could they put him in in mid September
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: once the games have started and expect him to make
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: lateral cuts and do everything at running back needs to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: do without any training camp. That's not very realistic. So
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it is it is a puzzle for them, and that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: was the price of letting Kenneth Walker go was they are,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? I'd normally say, oh, they're
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: definitely draft in a running back, and they may still.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: But again, remember they only have four draft picks this
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: year in a draft that they've already deemed this week,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: and three of those four at the bottom of each
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: of the first three rounds. It's an interesting situation. Now
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: they put themselves in I mean, if they were like
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: most NFL teams, yeah it's running back, they'll thrown one
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: in there. This team runs the ball as much more
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: than anybody in the league. It's put their offense is
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: entirely predicated on and they have big, big question marks
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: at the first running back spot.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Now he wasn't kidding. Greg Bell wrote an article on
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: just about everything yesterday ken Walker leaving, Kobe Bryant leaving,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: boy A Mafe leaving, Josh job staning, Rashid sha Heed staying.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: So you can check it all out at the Newstribune
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: dot com and easily have access to it there on
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: X at g Bell Seattle. All right, great stuff. You
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: don't get a snack in you car bub. You got
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: another day of Tampa Fest. Even though we do seem
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: to be on like a wave number four.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: At this stage.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for twenty four hours. Yeah, you've got a whole
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes without mentioning Randy Rosarina and Kyl Rowley and
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Potter's Box etiquette and well, thank you.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about it, and I'd like to talk
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: about it more, but you know, we kind of had
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: a show dedicated to free agency, so you know we're
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: gonna have to ask Mike Sando about it. I think
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: later on in the show.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Bucky, that was bizarre? Was it not by baseball at
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: a good circles? I don't mean, I know it's an
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: exhibition tournament, but that was bizarre.
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  Speaker 8: It's bizarre. Nowadays it would have been run of the mill.
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  Speaker 8: It's exactly the way it would have been done twenty
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: years ago. I mean, there just used to be no
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: handshaking and you know, fratternizing, and nowadays the guys will
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: hug the borderline make out before the game.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: It makes you think there's some kind of inside joke
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: there and the thing is taking it very far.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: Might be, might be all right, Greg, we'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: you tomorrow.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Right happy to today?
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: I seahawks inside of Greg Bell with us. His segment
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  Speaker 2: signing with Coppola Diamond Collection Prosecco coming up next. Yeah,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: we're going to talk almost all NFL free agency today,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: but we do have to chat with Everett fits You
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: is coming on early today. Bobby McCann is McMahon Is
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: he going to make his debut tonight? Sports Radio ninety
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM. We needed reinforcements, so from eight
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: to ten we have our NFL insider Mike Sando with
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: us right here in studio. Excited about that, but it
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: forced us to make a few adjustments. We asked kindly
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: if the great Everett fits You would adjust his schedule,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: get up a little earlier, talk some crack and hockey talks,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: some Bobby McMahon with us this morning, and he was
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: happy to do so, or at least he did it. Yeah,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll find out if he was happy.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: He's probably happy.
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: He's one of the nicest people ever too, so he's yeah, sure,
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: whatever you want, Ashley. I mean, deep down inside, he
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: probably doesn't like getting up earlier. But yeah, did you
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: do Did you do it? Because it's okay or you're
• 53:03
  Speaker 8: just trying to be nice every for.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: You guys, I will do anything you asked. But I
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: will say there was an eight am class that I
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: had in college back in two thousand and eight, and
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: I had to wake up at seven fifteen, seven thirty
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: for that class. And let's just say my attendance was
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: not perfect that year. So I don't think I've seen
• 53:27
  Speaker 6: seven thirty am probably since two thousand and eight nine.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: So we of the.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Guys, I'll do it. We won't ask you to do
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: it a lot company.
• 53:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I was you can maybe a kick off the
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: show starting Tuesdays at six am, moving forward to what
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: I was thinking.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: You want to entertain that?
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that on Tuesdays.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a thing. Yeah, I'm looking at your
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: eye lids with the guys.
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: That's totally what. But it's over my head, this thing
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: that I can't I got to keep the thing.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know, things do happen they do come up. Yeah,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: they Everett fits you voice of your Seattle Kraken. He
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: joins us every Tuesday at eight thirty. We're having him
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: come on at seven thirty here today to accommodate the frenzy.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: So let's get into it. The trading deadline man. They
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: pushed it all the way to the midnight hour. I
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: thought the coach was going to turn into a pumpkin,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: and instead they had Bobby McMahon right at the last second.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: What did you think of the addition?
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: You know that this is a He's a player that
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: I likes. I've liked his game a lot. I mean
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: this team got faster, that's for sure. Bobby McMahon. I mean,
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: he's probably one of the top three four fastest players
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: in the NHL and the kracket. You know, Leyne Lambert
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: was talking about this last game out against Ottawa, against
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: a rush team like the Senators, the Kraken would never
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: have not given up a lot of odd man rushes
• 54:51
  Speaker 6: this season. They've always been able to slow down other
• 54:55
  Speaker 6: teams three on two opportunities, and I think McMahon helps
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: out with that. Offensively, I mean, he loves to shoot
• 55:02
  Speaker 6: the puck. He loves to crash them. That this is
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: a guy who I think a lot of teams would
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: have loved as as that extra piece to push them
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: over the top. Plus he's you know, he's a hard
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: working player. Reminds me a little bit in terms of
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: his work ethic. Reminds me a little bit of a
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: Yanni Gord who wasn't drafted, who played in the ECHL,
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: He played in the American Hockey League. He had to
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: work his way up. He's earned every second of NHL
• 55:31
  Speaker 6: ice time that that he's gotten. And I think there's
• 55:35
  Speaker 6: there's a very underrated quality about those type of players.
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: So I like the move and and I know a
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: lot of people, you know, probably were expecting that bigger splash,
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: that top line, you know, seventy eighty ninety points splash.
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: But those players weren't there. And the guys that were there,
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: you're Robert Thomas's and Jordan Kyrue. Number one, they would
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: have had to have waived their no move clause and
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: number two, I mean their asks were astronomical. Elliott Friedman,
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: who is pretty much the Adam Schefter of the NHL,
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: who breaks all these news, all these trades and all
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: this news, Elliott Friedman said that the ask for the
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: Cayrou and Thomas trade out of Saint Louis, I guess
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: Buffalo was a willing dance partner. And he said that
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: a rival GM told him that they would have basically
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: had to have given up everybody in their American Hockey
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: League system, all of their prospects, plus a couple of picks,
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: and it's just not worth it this time of year. Now,
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: we'll see it the draft, We'll see it in the
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: summertime if a lot of these bigger names move. But
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: this is the deal that made the most sense for Seattle,
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: and I'm excited to see him play and to see
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: what he can do for this team.
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: Fitti, I mean six fifteen, that's pretty big. I was
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: not expecting you to say that he's one of the
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: fastest guys in the NHL. So that's that's good news.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: Where do you expect them to pencil him in?
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: What line? Is he going to be playing center or
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: is he going to be a wingeror what's he going
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: to be?
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: So yesterday he was talking about how this year he's
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: played more right side right wing up a lineup this year.
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: I the last couple of years the Cracket have played Toronto.
• 57:20
  Speaker 6: You've seen him on the left side. He does play
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: really well with more skill than offensive guys, quick guys.
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: So you know, with Jaden Schwartz out indefinitely after a
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: very scary skate collision the other night, I think he
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: slides in on that second line with Chandler Stephenson and
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Ellie Tolvenan. So I don't think you're gonna break up
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: the mccan Vanier's every line that's been driving a lot
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: of your offense. Your fourth line has been giving you
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: a lot of energy lately. So I think the natural
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: fit for me is on the left side of that
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: second line, him and Stevenson and and Tolvenan. So you've
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: got three really good shooter skaters. Rather on that team
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: you've got toln and who's your shooter. You now bring
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: another guy in McMahon who likes to shoot the puck,
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: who likes to drive and crash the debts. So I
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: think there's a bit of an element on that line
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: that you're gonna get. You're maybe I don't want to
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: say you're upgrading on James Schwartz because he's a very
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: valuable piece of this team. But you're not losing a
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: whole lot without Schwartz in the lineup now that you
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: can plug in Bobby m McMahon.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: All right, So no chance at the McFly line. McCann,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: McMahon and uh, I don't know mcmatdie.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: I told Lane, I said, go easy on me, Okay,
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: I can only have a couple of McMahon McCann's back
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: to McMahon again. Oh my goodness, listen, if I can
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: do if I can do the Pederson's three in Vancouver, Elias,
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: Elias and Marcus and and do that rather smoothly. I
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: think McMahon to McCann and back to mcmanaghan. I think
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: I can do that pretty well too.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: I haven't gotten through it once, and I'm not even
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: calling play by play. Every time I've brought it up,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I've stumbled ever Fits.
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: There was a game a few years ago we had
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: Jaden Schwartz, Justin Schultz and Jimmy Schult in the same game.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: So that was not fun.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: They can't all be capoo. I'll tell you ever Fits,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: you with us voice of your Seattle crack, and they
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: will play tonight against the Nashville Predators. Will McMahon debut tonight.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: It does not appear so unless the the The annoying
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: thing about trade deadline being on a Friday is you
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: have to do all of your immigration work and all
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: your immigration paperwork and well on Sunday the Lord rested,
• 59:49
  Speaker 6: so nothing was open and nothing got processed on Sunday.
• 59:52
  Speaker 6: But it sounds like he will make his debut on Thursday,
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: unless some magic happened over the last twenty four hours.
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: But he was out with the team yesterday practicing, getting
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: used to his new linemates and checking out the systems
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: and becoming activated to the crack. But I think it
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: looks like everything's pointing sort of Thursday debut with Colorado
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: against Colorado.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I like that they made an addition
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I would have hated to have gotten at the end
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: of the year, missed the playoffs by a point or two,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: and you did nothing at the trade deadline. So I
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: liked that they did the addition. But bottom line is,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, here we go. They're back in this little
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: wave of having lost to one of the worst teams
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: in the NHL, and by Lane Lambert's own admission, playing
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: one of their worst games of the year. Against Ottawa.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting crunch time right now here, Everett,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: and so Bobby McMahon better make a difference. This team
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: just flat out has to start playing better hockey starting tonight,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: in more consistent hockey.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: No, they do, and that's honestly, that's the biggest thing
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: for Leie. Lambert was talking to us the other day,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: you know, after the first Saint Louis game on the road,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: when they came back home to play Vancouver and then
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: it was Carolina, I believe it, and going into that
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: Carolina game, he was telling myself and now that listen,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: we have to work harder. You know, the the effort
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: out of the break was unacceptable. We have to work harder.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: We have to compete. You know, these are important games.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: You know you're coming up on must win territory or
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: minimally going to points. And I think the same thing
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: happened for the crack end after these last two games
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: against Saint Louis and Ottawa. You know, the effort needs
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: to be better, the compete needs to be better. You know,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: Brandon Montur comes out and says they just wanted it more.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: And when you hear someone say that, that's the wake
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: up call, especially in a hockey locker room. Nobody wants
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: it more than we do. Nobody should want it more.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 5: Than we do.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 6: So when you've got a guy calling out, you know,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: we weren't good enough tonight. They wanted it more those
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: words resident inside of addressing room. So I think tonight
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: against Nashville, against a team that's right on your heels
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: that you need to beat to stay ahead of them.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 6: I mean, you're one point up right now on LA
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 6: and San Jose. So I mean it's it's not like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: you can afford to take these losses. And after the deadline,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 6: a lot of these games in the NHL, you're going
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: to start seeing they turn into three point games. A
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 6: lot of games go to overtime and go to shootouts
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: right now, a lot of teams just playing for as
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: many points as they can get. This league goes from
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: a four to three league to a three to two
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: league overnight. You know, the offense starts to dry up
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: because teams don't want to make mistakes. And especially this
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: season where it seems like the entire league, especially in
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: the Western Conference, the entire Western Conference is only separated
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: by six points between getting in the playoffs, and not
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: if you're the crack in you're six points back of
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: first and you're one point above the cut line. So
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: I mean these things, these standings can change week to week,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 6: especially this year, so the cracking, I mean, this is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 6: about as close to must win territory as you're gonna
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: get these finals six weeks of the season.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: All right, man, thank you for waking up early for us.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I know this is ideal pillow talk for you and
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: the missus to come on with Bucky and and talk
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: cracking hockey.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 11: So she just looks at me very longingly, like that's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 11: my man talking hockey seven in the morning. How did
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 11: I get so lucky?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: Yep, yep, yep. I have a great call, I say
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: from the guest room downstairs.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Ah, alright, man, all right, fits joining us right here
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: on Chuck and Buck. Of course, game tonight, seven o'clock.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: They'll drop the pucket is it Climate Pledge Arena. There's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: a big league six game road trip coming up, so
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: got to take advantage of these home ice games. So
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: they'll take on the Predators pregame at six thirty, and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: then it's the Everett and A'll show at seven. All right,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: coming up next on our radio program, before we bring
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: on Mike Sando at eight o'clock, we'll talk about a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: couple of other free agent holes that the Seahawks suddenly
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: have to fill. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Hey,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: good morning to you, Happy Tuesday. It is Chuck Buck
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: and Ashley with you Chucking Buck in the morning. Sports
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three kjr FM. We roll into
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: our third hour here on a Tuesday, the second day
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: of tampering and the National Football League, Yes, Tamperfest twenty
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: twenty six going down. In my goodness, was there a
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: record setting amount of tampering yesterday, all sorts of and
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: so much to have to discuss to deal with. We
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: had to bring in reinforcements outside help, you know, kind
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: of a hit man of NFL acquisitions, and we will.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: It is our NFL insider from the athletic We've got
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: him for the next two hours on our first ever
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: specialty tampering show, Mike Sando and studio with us. How
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: are you man?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Oh man, it's great to be here, Great to see
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: you guys in person. Then, and it's we did it
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: recently at the Super Bowl too. Yeah, So this is great. Yeah,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: thanks for having me.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, next thing, you know, we'll be you know, invited
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: up to Bucky's house for barbecue and fishing. Sounds good.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: And wood chopping yeah, yeah, you got to chop some wood.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: But then I'll repay you with meat, meat of your
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: choice and whiskey.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: That sounds great, That sounds good to marry Yeah, then
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: sorry I didn't.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know how many meat grilling searing devices I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: have on my deck, but I think it's one, at
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: least three, at least three there, so big meat seer,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: are you? Oh yeah, yeah, lots of stuff going on there.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: Okay, maybe we go to your patio good? Yeah, I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: mean I have just fire and blackstone I got. I
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: do have a smoker.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: I got the.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Blackstone yeah, and then the trigger smoker and then the
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: you know, the the the charcoal grill.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, what's every time we talk food, you always
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: bring up how missus Sando makes this amazing dish fill
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: in the blank.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: So I was driving in today, I stand, I wish
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: we could have some bagels brought, and I was like,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: she's just recently my wife made bagels.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: They're great, just the bagel make They're really good.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you can have you know, you can get some cheese. One.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 10: I actually sprinkled the cheese on there.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: You know, Oh, that's your contribution. That's my contribution.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 8: She made the actual bagels and you sprinkled the cheese.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: Well, this is.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Going to be in your theme with you guys talking
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: about a hole. Actually made the holes on the bagels too.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Oh so you got to put your you put your
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: fingers down in the middle of spinning around like you're
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: spinning a frisbee around on your finger.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not very good. I had some misshaping ones. But uh,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: but the holes were garbage. Holes were garbage, definitely holes garbage.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, save the day. But I actually found that.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: If I you know, if you if you ran your
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: finger into the cold water in the in the sink,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: then I could each one that I wouldn't stick on there.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: And I actually made good strategy, made good holes in
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: the bagels. Good hole maker, good hole maker, improved hole maker,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: hole maker, hole maker, coachable, coachable. But those bagels, we
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: give a bunch of them away because to eat them,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it would be a lot.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: It's it's a lot. It's probably not good for you
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 10: to eat a ton of bagels, but.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Just eat the holes. Yeah. Those are really yeah, those
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: are really nutricious.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Tell me what you're looking for to bring in and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: I'll see what kind of strings I can pull.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Last thing, and I'll just ask this of the group
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: and then we'll get into some football. I don't know
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: if my mom was the only person in the world
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: to do this, but she used to make like these,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: like ghetto donuts. She would get like those, you know,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: Pillsberry biscuit things, and then she would pop a hole
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: in them, and then she would fry them, and she
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: do the holes, and then she would do the actual
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: donuts and then she would fry them, and then she
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: would roll them in like cinnamon and sugar. And they
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: were outstandings. Great, they were outstanding. But I don't know
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: if she might have been the only mom in the world.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: That did that.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: Have you ever had fried bread? Fried Bread's good. I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: not with the cinnamon and the sugar in it, but
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: fried bread is a thing, really really good, and you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: dip it in honey.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I did, just toast and butter and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: then sprinkle sugar and cinnamon on it.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah that as a kid, Yeah, yeah, Mom wasn't
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: watching the I don't remember really having cinnamon around, but
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: the sugar you'd put so much better on that thing,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: and you'd be looking around and you just be pouring spoonfuls.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: It'd be like a thick thing of sugar.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: It was so good. As Mom was one, I was
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: bouncing off the walls for the next hour. Yeah, really good.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: Well I'll make the hols. I'll make the holds. All right. Well,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: let's talk some NFL football, actually, because Mike Sander is
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: not our donut insider, he is our NFL insider from
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: the athletics. So let's get it and let's talk about
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks here. As far as you can tell, I mean,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of people a little bit worried
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: about the donut hole created by the loss of ken Walker. Yeah,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: your reaction to him leaving him signing with Kansas City,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: give me your ken Walker break down here.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: So like to me, he doesn't just solve what the
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Chiefs issue is, which is is more than just a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: player running back. To me, it's it's valuing the run game.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: So hopefully for them this is going to make them
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: be under centered a little bit more and actually be
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: committed to a real run game. I think for the Seahawks,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: they're going to be that anyway, and so they can
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: find other people to do that. I think that they
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: lose some explosiveness, That's number one thing I think that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: could be. You know, one reason you're willing to go
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: a little bit higher on Rashid Shaheed is because you
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: do need explosive plays in this league to win, and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: especially win the way they want to play, which is,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: you know, playing great defense, being really good on special teams,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: and having an offense that conflects when it needs to,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: but is gonna run the ball a lot, and you
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: have to hit explosives. So I think they're gonna miss
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: him what he became the second half of the year.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: But the valuation is the whole thing. That value for
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: really a second half of the season. It wasn't like
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: he was just consistently the guy every year, right or.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: Even during this last year.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: During this last year, and I think that, you know,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: it would be a bit of a luxury with what
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: the other things they have to do on this team. Okay,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: so like they're gonna pay JSN, They're gonna pay Winterspoon,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: and those guys are gonna probably get to the top
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: of the market, you know, certainly jsn Ish. So yeah,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: so I don't think you're really going, you know, that
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: high with you know, with the Kenneth Walker, just the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: consistency that he didn't bring over the course of his
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: career here and so it would have been a luxury.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: I think it's disciplined to let him go, even though
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: you don't you know who's on deck. I mean, I
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: think they have an issue now. They need to find somebody,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: and they probably will.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: So you think they'll try to go out and tackle
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: this problem with from multiple facets. I mean, try to
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: go get somebody that's a three million dollar proven like
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: some sort of veteran or the draft or yeah, a
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: combination of.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 10: Both of those things.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: I think that, you know, I don't necessarily you could
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: see them in some cases, maybe a trade. I know
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: you guys talked about the Miami back a little bit
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: when I was driving in, But they don't have a
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: lot of picks, so maybe you can manufacture picks and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: do something like that. I would love that type of
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: a move, you know, get somebody who's a home run
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: thread in there and maybe just as good as Kenneth Walker, right,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: even if he's not quite as young or you maybe
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: ideally rad or have Kenneth Walker and keep it going.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: But I think that type of a move would be
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: really nice and it is something they can probably do that.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's the guys that have come off the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: book already Walker obviously, Bettien, Dobbins, gain Well, Dowdell Algier.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, those guys have already come off the board.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: There's not a lot left, like running back wise in
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: free agency. Are we at a stage in the National
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Football leagu where we just teams just don't worry about
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: that that much. I don't want to turn it into
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: a running backs or a dime a dozen conversation. But
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: there doesn't seem to be any panic over there in
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: rent And over Ken Walker not being a Sea Yawk
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think they knew they were going to
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: have to make choices this off season and that price
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: was going to be a little bit high, especially after
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: the way he finished and then it was the MVP
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl and all that. So I think
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: if they had signed him to what he got with
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs, we'd be saying, wow, you know that seems
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: you're happy to have him, but yeah, I don't know
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: if that would have been, you know, the best use
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: of that money when they've got these other things to do.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm with you, though when I look at
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: what's available, you know you're not like super excited.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well called Brian Robinson, I mean, being a Niner
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: new offensive coordinators from there. I mean he's not an
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: outstanding but he's filled in Abramley. He's one of those
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 8: guys that a lot of people go, well, Kyle Shanahan
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: is just so great because even if if you have
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: an injury to McCaffrey, look at what he does with
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 8: you know, Brian Robinson.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: And that's another reason why you don't probably overpay for
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: that position in this offense, right, there's a history of
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: being able to get good production and so yeah, maybe
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: there's somebody they get who has, you know, some history
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: with the forty nine ers, has a history with him
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: that could make sense. But whatever they do is probably
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: not going to be Wow, I think it's going to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: be easier to find the Charbonnet fill in Yeah, that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: type of running back than it is. As you said,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: the explosive abilities of Ken Walker that's not easy to find,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: plus a guy with that kind of power, and that's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: probably going to have to be found.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Through the draft, right.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: I guess the Sharburney's injury is the one made an
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: interesting factor here. You know that if they would have
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: done and paid, if they would have paid Kenneth Walker,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: you'd be saying, well, it's because of that, right, they
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: needed to have something. That number just wasn't where they
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: were willing to go. And they obviously prioritized Rashi Shahid,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 4: you know who they'd given up a couple picks for
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 10: That could come into your thinking, well.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Let's transition to that, because certainly when the season ended,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: the thought was, well, we didn't just rent this guy, right,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: we like him, We're going to keep him. And then
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden the figures started coming out about
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: what his value might be be and it was between
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: fourteen and eighteen million dollars. And I think we, certainly
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: on this show, including all of our insiders, were like,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: no way, not for a punt returner who wasn't all
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: that active in the passing game, and yet they end
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: up paying him seventeen million dollars. Do you think he's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: worth that or do you think that is a reaction
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: to losing Walker. We can't lose them both. We can't
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: lose that much explosion from our offense.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So as whether he's worth it or not, I
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: think we are coming to grips. There's like a lag
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: in our minds over what these numbers are because the
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: cap just keeps going up so much. And so I
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: can remember not that long ago, you know, the top
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: receiver could be sixteen million a year, right, and so
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: it is a sixteen million dollar receiver now what the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: eight million dollar receiver was. Because you're going to be
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: forty at the top of the market, so you're getting
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: somebody at less than half the top of the market.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: I think we need to think of it a little
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: bit that way with these guys, and I'm going to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: do that as we as the dust settles on this.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: I think we just need to, you know, take a
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: look at the whole picture in terms of, Hey, just
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: as simple as this, what's the average salary divided by
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: the cap limit for the teams?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: That is a that is sort of a way to
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: look at these deals to see that maybe seventeen million
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: is what we used to think twelve million was or
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: ten million was? That really could be where we're at.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: And I think also, you know, special traits. I think
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: when you're going to pay a little bit more, you
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: want to have special traits. And you know Kenneth Walker
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: has some, but as at a running back position that
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: that probably you know that's not where you're going to
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: generally philosophically want to do it unless he's just an
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: amazing three down back game changer. McCaffrey right, that's a
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: different type of a player and Kenneth Walker's not that.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: But but what Shaheed brings to two phases of your team,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: I think goes beyond his statistics, especially on offense.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 10: Obviously they're going to use him more now, but there's.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: A value to that. There's a value to that, and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: I think they were still kind of figuring out this
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: last year how it all fit together.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 8: How often do you when you see somebody join a
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: team mid season. I mean, he had impact more so
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: probably on special teams with some of his special traits
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: that you're talking about. He had a couple of big plays.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 8: There was a big reverse in that comeback win that
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: he that he had as well, so, but I mean
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 8: was what you saw out of him offensively just kind
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: of par for the course, considering he just joined the
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: team at the deadline, and and so you you two
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: are thinking, there's the ceiliing is much higher what he
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: could be as a receiver.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not convinced that the seilings can be much higher
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: in terms of a ton of production. I don't necessarily
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: feel that. I think he's a presence out there, and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: he could have more production than he had last year,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: but I still need to see it to believe it
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: that there's a lot more there in terms of just
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: consistency play to play as a wide receiver. I do
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: think he brings a threat though, just being out there,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 4: and you just got to use him enough, right, You
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: got to throw it to him enough to keep the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: defenses honest.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Mike Sander is with us our NFL Insider. He's here
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: in studio with us for two hours. This is our
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: first segment with him. So you've joined our radio program
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: at a really good time if you were wanting to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: get your Mike Sando fill today, because we're just getting
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: started with him here on the Chugging Buck in the
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: mornings and we're kind of locked in in this first segment.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: We'll get to some things around the league later on
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: in the show, but kind of locked in on this
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: first segment with how the Seahawks were impacted by day
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: number one of the tampering period. They also lost Kobe Bryant.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: He got paid top of the market safety money. I
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: think you heard my analysis from a little bit earlier
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: in the show. I really thought they liked Kobe Bryant
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: more than any other team was going to like Kobe Bryant.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: But when we play this game of finance, ye, well,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure we should be surprised that Mike McDonald
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: and John schneiderre considering how good they seem to be
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: at finding defensive backs and then McDonald coaching up defensive backs,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: that they're not going to pay top market for anybody
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: Well, they're going to pay top dollar for the weather
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: and those types of guys the really different difference makers
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: talent wise.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: But I think you're rym and worry when the time comes.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: I just was so impressed with their ability to develop
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: players last year. I think that is a huge part
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: of this decision making process. With a player like that
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: who's a good player but not a great player, and
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: so almost all of the players that they've had in
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 4: their system have gotten better. And you mentioned Tyo Kotta.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: I mean, he looked like he was in over his
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: head when he first got there, and then by the
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: end of the year he's They changed the defense. When
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: he's out there. He can't do some of the things
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: that the Utters could do. Uh, but they can still
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: win and they can still be good. So I think
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: we're going to see more of that, just the meshing
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: between the front office and the coaching staff to get
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: the most out of the guys they have there and
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: see who the next Kobe Ryan is.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: So uh.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: Nick even wore even though he drafted as a safety,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: he didn't. He played more like the linebacker, so you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: wouldn't think he would be one that would be thrust
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: into that opening at safety. It's going to be more
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 8: Ocata at this point.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 10: I would think.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: So I think he's I think em and Worry's probably
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: at his best, you know, near the line of scrimmage,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: and he can just do so many different things.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: But he's playing the position of Emon Worri this upcoming year.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly starting at and I can't exactly
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: what it is I can't. You know, we forget that
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: he missed it. You know, he's a rookie last year
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: and he missed some of the start of the season,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 4: but he was by far the guy they were most
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: excited at about the kind of unknown players coming into camp.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: And you couldn't go to practice with that team standing
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: next to Jeff Howard, they're you know, coaching position and
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: uh just being a huge part of it. So I
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: think that we're going to see him hit the ground
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: running in it even probably another dimension to how good
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: he is.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to clarify, I do think they will
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: spend top of the money on Witherspoon and when the
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: day comes em and worry. But yeah, spending great money
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: on great players, that's one thing. Spending great money on
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: good players. That's where I think people get in trouble,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: including the quarterback position. I think Miami's facing that, I
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: think Arizona's facing that you paid great money to maybe
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: not even good quarterbacks and look where you are right now.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: And you know what happens is the ones you mentioned
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: were all paid by the teams that drafted a number
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: one or number five or whatever high in the draft,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: and they it's like they just have to justify their
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: decision a second time, and so they give them the
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: top of the market. Look at the guys who changed teams,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold or whatever. Sam Donald's better than Tua. You'd
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: rather have Sam Donald than Tua or Baker Mayfield's better,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: right than some of these guys. But Sam and Baker
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 4: aren't at the top of the market even though they're
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: better players, because they weren't drafted by the hometown team
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: that they're on. And so that's just a huge mistake.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: I think, Trevor Lawrence, maybe they get away with it,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 4: but you know, maybe not.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: All let me slip in Mafey before we're done with
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: our first segment, just to close out the Seahawks day yesterday,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: he goes to the Cincinnati Bengals. I see the talent there,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: But does it not strike you as strange that the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Bengals fought Trey Hendrickson for every single dollar a more
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: proven pass rusher and then kind of just handed boy
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Mafy twenty million a year.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Yes it does, but I'll tell you this, Trey Hendrickson
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: wears out the teams that he's on in terms of
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: always wanting more money, he's never had this contract. That
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: was the reputation in New Orleans, reputation obviously with the Bengals,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: and he's gonna win that battle with the Bengals in
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: the court of public opinion because the Bengals have their
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: own reputation in terms of spending. But but I think that, uh,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: that's a that's a factor with Trey Hendrickson, and it
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: was one of the reasons that he didn't stay in
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: New Orleans as well. So for whatever reason, he's known
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: as you know, whatever his deal is, not being super
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: happy with it, and so I think they were probably
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: happy to move on from that conversation, just never having
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: him be happy, you know. And he's also getting up
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: there a little bit as well with money.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: As much as the activity there was yesterday, and he's
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: still unsigned. Guy can't get signed for the money he
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: thinks he's.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: Worth, That's right, Yeah, And I think everybody knows too,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: you know that even after you sign him, he may
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 4: want more after that. So we'll see what happens with him.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: But the MAFE money is uh, it's a lot of money, but.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: Good for him.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 10: It kind of this is sort of.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: I look at his signing is more from the player's
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 4: standpoint of, Hey, you got your Super Bowl ring and
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: now go take care of what hit the top dollar.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: You can't blame him at all. I think it's a
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: great move for him, and uh, you know, as far
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 4: as the angles, I don't know if it says if
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 4: it's as great of a move, but you got to
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: spend your money on somebody, and I'm sure they had
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: a slot there for Hendrickson in that position.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 10: They may have more leftover.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Even Mike Sando is with us our NFL insider. He's
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: going to be with us for two hours, going to
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: have all sorts of ways to break down what we've
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: seen so far in the tampering period. We'll preview a
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: little bit of what's left out there. But coming up next,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: I do want to get to Mike's thoughts and all
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: of our thoughts really on what happened with the NFC
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: West yesterday. Did the Rams and forty nine ers get
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: better while the Seahawks were just fighting to keep their
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: own We'll discuss at Sports Radio ninety three point three KHARFM.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: You realize that you do not warrant the respect you
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: seem to think.
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  Speaker 8: My name is Cornelius buckhole Jacobson the sixty third.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 9: Did you say maybe if you were the first too?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 8: Sure that warrants just a stand, at least like a
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 8: fake stand. I kind of act like you're getting out
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 8: of your chair.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: Get I'm pretty tall seated, so it's almost like I'm standing.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are tall. He was faking the funk. Yeah
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: he thought you thought he was standing. No, he was
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: like all right, he didn't even look up. That's right,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: I alone standing talking. They could have been a signing.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: You know, he's here for free agency frenzy.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: I've never been more proud of him.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Well, we are going to have a session with the
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: old judge, a free agent session, if you will, with
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: the old judge. Mike Sander has been with us here
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: for the last hour and a half. He has participated
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: in this uh segment before from the radio row that's
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: right with Hugh Millon. So here's how we're going to
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: set it up. But it'll be Mike and Ashley discussing
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: the topics. I'm just going to bring them up, and
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: then the judge will be the judge's right.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 8: When you guys are done, well, when I say you're
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 8: doney on the table right, the judge gabble, gabble, and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 8: you guys zip it.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: Hell, yeah, there you go. You can bribe me bribes. Yeah,
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: this is kind of a Southern courtroom.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm a.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 9: Relatively new lawyer. I am not. I'm not used to
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 9: having the lawyer.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: Dollars over there. At least you get to see the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: actual gavel and the whole setup, the big one and
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: the robe.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 9: Right, is awesome.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: Little gavel that Ashley bought me, a little teeny tiny one.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 9: It's not always about size, but it is.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: It is.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: This is my gabble. Powdered wig is powdered wig. That's hiring, right, Mike,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. First one, I'm going to
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: bring something up. Mike and Ashley will discuss. Whenever the
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: old judge is hurt enough, he slams his gavel, he
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: weighs in, whatever he says.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: Goes sorry, bicking up this microphone, walking over to face
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: her as we face off here.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that thing's strapped down.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: All right, here you go. First one. Ken Walker will
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: not only be good in Kansas City, He's going to
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: win a rushing title with the Chiefs. No, that is
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: not happening, Okay, because Andy Reid is in love with
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: the forward pass.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 10: I mean, we should look up.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: I know he's had some great running backs over the years.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: If you go back to Fremont was pretty good with him.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: Freemont was pretty good. And they do have the first
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: version of Kat and they do have to hand it
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: off more. I believe with you know, with Patrick Mahomes
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: coming off the injury. But we know Mahomes is going
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: to be ready like tomorrow, you know, And I think
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: that they just won't give him the ball enough.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: I don't think he's going to be winning a rushing title.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: I think he'll be serviceable for what they need him
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 7: to be. But I don't know that any fantasy owners
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: are going to be like, oh my god, why didn't
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 7: I pick up Ken Locker this year.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: It'll be inconsistent, but I do think he'll have big
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: games and big plays and he'll add some juice to
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: that offense for sure. But you just can't They're just
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: not going to feed him enough, in my opinion.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: Gvel Gavel Gavel.
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  Speaker 8: I hope, first of all, that doesn't have some crazy
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: career there being a Bronco fan, I don't really want
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 8: him to, but I do think there's a chance that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 8: he impartiality, I don't have it. It's my court room.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 8: I will not be in. I will be in partial
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 8: went off Fiel. Yeah, I don't know why.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's the way I wanted to be.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 8: So I think there's a chance he's gonna go off,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: but I don't think there's a chance that he's going
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 8: to consistently go off. So I basically I'm kind of
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 8: in the same boat as Sando. I think that he's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 8: going to have some He's gonna have some games. You're like, whoa,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: that's the which. We saw that here from time to time,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: but you also saw inconsistency here. The patience that he
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: showed in the Super Bowl was amazing. People were lotting it.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: But if you get tackled for a one yard loss,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: that's tiptoeing up to the line, and we saw that
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 8: and heard that a whole bunch too. So I think
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: he's going to end up having a good career, but
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 8: I'm not sure if he's in a winning rushing titles Areen.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Hunt did lead the league in rushing as a rookie,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: led the league with Andy Reid twenty seventeen, So we
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: got to give him that. Yeah, that's also before Mahomes,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, that's right quarterback.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: All right, next one. The next one's up, Judge.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: As Sanda is talking out a turnover.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm glad when I hit my gavel you were Wyatt, San.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: There's a button here. Just turn off the mic.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 9: We don't give him any respects to talk whenever you want.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: JSN will not only become the highest paid wide receiver
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, he will make fifty million dollars per year.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 7: Ashley, fifty million. What's the highest contract right now? Forty Yeah,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: and I don't think it's gonna jump that much. I'd say,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 7: like forty five maybe wants still a big jump, Yeah,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 7: but I do think yes, he is definitely gonna be
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 7: the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL for at
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 7: least a year, no, three months, I don't know till
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 7: the next wide receiver signs a contract.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: Basically see what happens with Puka and Nakua.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: But he will not get to fifty. If I had
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: to pick the over under on forty five, I might
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: even lean under, just figuring he's gonna go to the top.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: But would he go by that much? Yeah, but yes,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: he'll be the number one highest paid receiver in the league.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: Gavel Gavel Gavel.
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  Speaker 6: I agree.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: I think he'll be number one.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's you always see this nowadays, it's the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 8: next brick in the road. It's like, when do you sign?
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 8: And yet he you know, the season that he had
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 8: last year coming off of his rookie season, which was
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 8: good but not to the point of leading the league.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: If he ends up, I mean, he's gonna end up
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 8: getting signed over that. But I think it's going to
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 8: be the next brick in the road. It's under forty five,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: but it's over four.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: That's not according to him and his agent. They don't
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: want to just be the highest paid. They want to
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: set a new bar for everybody else.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 9: Well, you know what you can do. You can do
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 9: something and you can wish in this se I have
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 9: a gavel in one hand, and you can do something
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 9: else in this hand. See which one works out?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, just tell me that, all right? Next one here
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: in the judges' courtroom. The Randy and cal handshake gate
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: is going to end up being a problem, Ashley.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: I don't think it's going to be a problem by
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: the time the season starts. I do think that they're
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 7: going to have to have a conversation, because clearly, whatever happened,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 7: there was a miscommunication on both sides. I would like
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 7: to think that Randy was, you know, joking when he
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: said his postgame comments yesterday, but I really don't think
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 7: he was. He brought up Cal's parents, and then he
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: told Cal you could go to hell in two languages,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 7: and then told him to shove it in another language.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 9: I don't know. Seems like a lot of work for
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 9: a joke.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: Then again, because he was so over the top, maybe
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: it was a joke.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: Mike, what do you think. I've only heard about it.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: I didn't see him, and I speak one language, so
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: I don't have the to me. It just seems like
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: I want to hear what cal rally says about this.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: It sounds like one of those deals where he by
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 4: the time they were done talking to him right probably
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 4: before this came out, that it was a big deal.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 10: So I can't imagine that that's.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 4: If this becomes a big problem, then there was already
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: a big problem.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 9: That's fair.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 8: Yeah, this is not a problem. I mean, they I
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: think they have had their problems. I don't think I
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 8: think the way Randy rose Arena handles his business is
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 8: probably not the same way in which cal Rawley wants
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 8: his team to handle his business. But they also understand
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 8: one another. They also understand you can be different. You
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: don't have to be you know, you don't have to
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 8: have a bunch of clones out there. I think that
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 8: this team is too tight for anything like this to
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 8: become an issue.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: I would be willing to bet.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 8: I'd be willing to bet that whatever you got cash
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 8: on the table right there, that they've already discussed it
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 8: right that they've already discussed it, whether it was after
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 8: the game after Randy ended up having his conversation with
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: the media, which I think that with the rice mile
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: that he had, it could have bene you know what.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 8: I was just talking to his parents and and they're great,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 8: So he's great for having a great upbringing. But I'm
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 8: gonna go ahead and say it in Cuban style first,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 8: he can stick it up as you know what, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna say it in Spanish, and I'll say it
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: in English. And I think that there was a part
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 8: of it, like you left me hanging out there in
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 8: front of everybody, and you made me look like a jerk.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: What screw you? That type of thing.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 8: I guarantee they've already discussed it and it's already water
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 8: under the bridge.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, then just act like it's the.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 10: Worst thing than it is, just to string along the media, you.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: Know, just make yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 8: Well today they'll be playing Italy, which will have Canzone
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 8: and Miles Master Bony on it. And I thought that
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 8: what they should do is be like, hey, you come
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 8: up and try to handshake, and I'm going to flip
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: you off.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna do something. We're going to make it
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: even bigger deal.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: One time, very early in another marriage story, early in
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: our marriage, we were losing money at at Binyon's Casino
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: down in in Vegas, you know, the old school blackjack.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 4: And there was this huge guy sitting next to me,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: just tough looking guy. And so when my uh my wife,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: you know, went to the restroom or something, and so
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: I told this guy said, hey, when she comes back,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to just start talking smack to you, you know,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: and I want you to just play along and act
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: like you're afraid, you know. And so it was this
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: type of a thing, you know, So wife comes back,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: you know, and and this big old muscled guy you
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: know's there and I start like commenting on his how
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: he's playing, you know. I was like really disrespectful, and
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 4: I'm doubling down on these comments, and and.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: The guy's like, oh, hey, hey.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: I don't want any trouble, you know, put your hands
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 4: up like this, Hey, I don't wantny trouble.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 10: And we played along with it. I think that's what
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 10: the Mariner should do.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: This thing is act like it's a beef, kind of
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: like a you know, like you're a heel in wrestling.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 4: I think Roddy Roddy Piper and those guys really hated
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 4: each other. No, they should just go along with it,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: like a huge chemistry issue.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: You know, great idea. Yeah, that's a great idea. Fake
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: a chemistry issue all right quickly, because I got to
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: get this one in. Uh, in the modern day, you
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: just have to dip your Wendy's fries into your frosty.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, what's the point of getting them both?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 10: Oh no, I'm not I don't need to do that
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 10: in the ketchup.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well well.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: Gravel, cavel, cavel, you can do both. You can go
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 8: ketch up with one and then the next one. Now
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 8: you have to grab at least three, and they got
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 8: to be the shorter, crunchier once to where you can
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 8: get a full scoop of the frosty with all. You
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: can do both. You don't have to choose one or
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: the other. Yeah, so you don't have to do it. No,
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  Speaker 8: you don't have to do frosty with every bite of
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  Speaker 8: fry or with every fry.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to do ketchup.
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  Speaker 10: It's I guess that. I just yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 10: just wouldn't. I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know somebody that wins. You never have you
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  Speaker 2: ever done it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, you've tried.
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  Speaker 4: I've tried it, but I think I'd rather I do
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  Speaker 4: like the handfuls of the fries though, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: then separately then chase it, probably.
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  Speaker 8: With oh okay, so you chase it. Oh okay, so
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  Speaker 8: you mix it. You just don't use the fry as
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  Speaker 8: the spoon. I get it, okay, all right?
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