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Episode #3980 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive October 2001 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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  Speaker 1: Hello, it's Phil Henry with another Radio Archive Hour from
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  Speaker 1: the world-famous Phil Henry Show Hall of Fame show at philhenryshow.com.
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  Speaker 1: About five, six weeks after 9-11, we went to New York,
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  Speaker 1: and we did about a week's worth of shows there
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  Speaker 1: from the Museum of Television and Radio, which today is
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  Speaker 1: known as the William Paley Center. It's on 52nd Street.
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  Speaker 1: And it was quite a moving week, obviously, to be there.
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  Speaker 1: It was so soon after such a tragic event. But
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  Speaker 1: we did have on Lloyd Bonafide, a great patriot, a
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  Speaker 1: Korean War veteran, who will not put up with anybody
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  Speaker 1: desecrating the American flag, even if it was some kid
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  Speaker 1: wearing an American flag diaper or a little tiny kid
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  Speaker 1: wearing an American flag T-shirt.
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  Speaker 2: He'd pull it off the kid and set fire to it.
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  Speaker 1: So Lloyd was on the show talking about this and
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  Speaker 1: starting up with some of the parents of little kids
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  Speaker 1: with American flag diapers. Oh, and by the way, Rocky
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  Speaker 1: Road Ice Cream reminded him of the mud of Korea
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of his buddies, you know, died.
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  Speaker 2: So here's Lloyd.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I'm a Korean War veteran. But 1950, 1952,
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  Speaker 3: and I was, during the Korean War, I was on
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  Speaker 3: a destroyer for the United States Navy.
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  Speaker 2: You're a Navy veteran.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a Navy veteran. And I will tell you.
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  Speaker 1: And if you're on a cordless, you need to get
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  Speaker 1: a little bit closer to the base there, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: I will tell you that I don't mind seeing people
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  Speaker 3: fly flags, but... flag etiquette according to the United States
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  Speaker 3: Marine Corps code of conduct for the American flag is
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  Speaker 3: as follows. You don't let it touch the ground. You
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  Speaker 3: don't spill things on it. You don't use it to
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  Speaker 3: wipe things up. Now, that's the military code of conduct,
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  Speaker 3: United States Marine Corps etiquette for the flag. And what
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  Speaker 3: we have been seeing in this country over the last
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  Speaker 3: month to two months are flags being desecrated at a
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  Speaker 3: record clip. And what I have tried to do is
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  Speaker 3: to educate people, and of course it got me into
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  Speaker 3: that problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you think that a flag on a T-shirt,
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  Speaker 1: I'll ask anybody listening, is a flag on a T-shirt,
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  Speaker 1: is that a flag? I mean.
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  Speaker 3: You better believe that's a flag. And what I saw
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  Speaker 3: at 31 Flavors made me sick.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this has nothing to do with Baskin-Robbins.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. I was over, but I saw the boy,
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  Speaker 3: and I had spoken to his father.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the kid was wearing, and just so you guys know,
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  Speaker 1: this gentleman's saying he was over, you were over at
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  Speaker 1: the ice cream store.
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  Speaker 3: I was over getting some mint, you know, the chocolate
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  Speaker 3: chip my wife likes. Now, I see this kid who's
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  Speaker 3: probably about six years old. He's wearing an American flag t-shirt.
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  Speaker 3: And he's eating Rocky Road. And I want to tell
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  Speaker 3: you a little bit about Rocky Road ice cream. I
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  Speaker 3: don't like it. And I've never liked Rocky Road ice
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  Speaker 3: cream because it reminds me, Of the mud that our
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  Speaker 3: American boys dyed in in Korea. A t-shirt is a cloth,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a flag on it, and that technically is
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  Speaker 3: a flag.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I've got
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  Speaker 2: to back up on the Rocky Road thing. The kid was.
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  Speaker 3: Right away, I'll admit to you, I was angry because
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  Speaker 3: I saw the kid eating Rocky Road. Rocky Road has.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds you of the mud that American soldiers dyed
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  Speaker 1: in in.
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  Speaker 3: in korea rocky road has always remind me of what
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  Speaker 3: comes out of the end of a horse and it
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  Speaker 3: looks like the mud that our boys fought and died
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  Speaker 3: in in korea yes sir the frozen mud of korea
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  Speaker 3: where my pals died and there's a kid eating it
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  Speaker 3: and then on top of that it was spilled down
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  Speaker 3: the front of the t-shirt that was emblazoned with the
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  Speaker 3: flag that i love.
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  Speaker 2: Dearly okay lloyd Can I say something?
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  Speaker 3: That was a flag that a lot of guys died for.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know that, sir. Can I say something?
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  Speaker 1: The flag on the T-shirt, okay. You're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: six-year-old boy eating ice cream. Six-year-old, do you have any grandkids?
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  Speaker 3: I've got a grandson. Oh, I know the kids get sloppy.
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  Speaker 3: Of course I do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you know a kid's going to slop some
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  Speaker 1: ice cream onto it. But the fact that he's wearing it,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that a nice thing?
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  Speaker 3: It's a nice thing, yes. But if they don't show
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  Speaker 3: any respect... by eating an ice cream that is reminiscent
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  Speaker 3: of the very frozen mud that our men died in.
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  Speaker 1: Are you, you got a problem with Rocky Road or
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  Speaker 1: what the kid did to the flag?
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  Speaker 3: I don't like what he did to the flag. I
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  Speaker 3: am telling you, it's personal for me because he was
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  Speaker 3: eating the Rocky Road. I don't think the kid should,
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  Speaker 3: of course he has the right to eat any ice
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  Speaker 3: cream that he wants, but when I saw that, it
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  Speaker 3: could have been, for instance, vanilla.
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  Speaker 2: If he'd spilled vanilla on the flag.
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  Speaker 3: It wouldn't have been as painful, but I still would
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  Speaker 3: have felt it was a desecration, yes.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so what we're talking about here is a
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  Speaker 1: flag getting stuff spilled on it.
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  Speaker 3: Getting stuff spilled on it. You know, you can go
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  Speaker 3: out to the malls, you can go out to the
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  Speaker 3: different locations where the families are. Excuse me, I am really... Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I understand.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: You can go out to see all the little kids
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  Speaker 3: with the flags, and what are they doing? They're waving it,
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  Speaker 3: and then they throw it on the ground because they're
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  Speaker 3: tired of it and it's a toy. They're waving a flag,
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  Speaker 3: and then they wipe their face with the dirty, filthy
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  Speaker 3: baby food that they're eating. They're wearing American flag T-shirts,
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  Speaker 3: and then they're spilling or drooling slop down the front
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  Speaker 3: of it. Now, the United States Military Code of Conduct
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  Speaker 3: states that if an American flag is desecrated, it must
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  Speaker 3: be burned. And spilling Rocky Road on an American flag
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  Speaker 3: is like putting the flag in mud.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the first thing you've got to do is get
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  Speaker 1: over the problem you've got with Rocky Road.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not a problem. That's not the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, but you got angry because a kid was spilling
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  Speaker 1: Rocky Road. Spilling anything on the flag you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't like, right?
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  Speaker 3: I don't like. And I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hold on. Number 1-800-449-8686.
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  Speaker 1: This is a Navy veteran we're speaking with, Lloyd Bonafide.
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  Speaker 2: United States Navy veteran. Is that correct, sir?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's not the British Navy.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know. It was the U.S. Navy in Korea.
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  Speaker 1: And you, basically what you did is you pulled a
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  Speaker 1: T-shirt off the kid and burned it.
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  Speaker 2: Is that right?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did.
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  Speaker 2: And that was the problem you got into with his father?
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  Speaker 3: I got, well, the police. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 3: If it means saving an American flag, the police can
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  Speaker 3: charge me with battery from here until Sweet Jesus. Because
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  Speaker 3: the fact is.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you pulled the shirt off.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I did, sir, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You pulled the T-shirt off of the boy and then
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  Speaker 1: lit it with a Zippo lighter, right?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that what you did?
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  Speaker 3: Let me tell you about the men who died for
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  Speaker 3: that flag.
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  Speaker 2: I understand. Isn't that what you did?
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  Speaker 3: You're G.D. right, I did. I pulled it off of him,
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  Speaker 3: and I pulled out the lighter, and I burned it.
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  Speaker 3: And I told the man that that's what you're supposed
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  Speaker 3: to do with any flag that is desecrated. And I
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  Speaker 3: have done that for the last month, burning flags all
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  Speaker 3: over the San Gabriel Valley when I see a kid,
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  Speaker 3: especially the kids, desecrated.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see adults desecrating flags? Do you see.
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  Speaker 3: Not the way the children... The children have the little
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  Speaker 3: plastic flag that they wave, and then they get bored
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  Speaker 3: and they go, I don't care. On to the ground
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  Speaker 3: it goes.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Now, your wife... We spoke to your wife earlier,
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  Speaker 2: and we talked to a Dr.
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  Speaker 5: Newman.
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  Speaker 3: Uh... Alright, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's private...
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  Speaker 3: That's private.
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  Speaker 1: No, but you are taking some kind of a nerve medicine.
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  Speaker 3: No, whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't even go there, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Well, your wife was concerned because, as you indicated, for
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  Speaker 1: the last month, you've been taking flags away from kids
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  Speaker 1: and setting fire to them.
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  Speaker 3: And... According to the Code of Conduct, when an American
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  Speaker 3: flag is desecrated, it must be burned.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: So you consider.
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  Speaker 3: The kids' parents are pressing charges... Because I chased the
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  Speaker 3: kid down. And I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the kid's running away from you because he's afraid
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  Speaker 1: because he sees some man chasing him with a lighter
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  Speaker 1: in his hand, okay?
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't going to hurt that boy.
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  Speaker 1: I know that, but if I'm a father and I
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  Speaker 1: see my son being chased through a mall by a
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  Speaker 1: man with a lighter, what.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think I'm supposed to think?
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  Speaker 3: I would think if you were an intelligent man, you'd say,
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  Speaker 3: my boy desecrated that flag. Obviously, that man wants to
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  Speaker 3: set fire to it.
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  Speaker 2: With my kid in it?
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  Speaker 3: I mean... That is ridiculous. I would never do that. Well,
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  Speaker 3: he did.
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  Speaker 2: Did this guy know you?
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  Speaker 3: No, sir, he did not.
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  Speaker 2: So, when he sees you chasing his son, holding a lighter....
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  Speaker 3: Well, what, does he think I'm going to set the
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  Speaker 3: boy on fire? I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 1: No, I know what you're doing. You're trying to burn
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  Speaker 1: properly a flag that's been desecrated. The other question that
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  Speaker 1: I would have is, is it necessarily desecrated because there's
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  Speaker 1: been crap spilled on it?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And if it touches
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  Speaker 3: the ground, it's desecrated. If you spill something on it,
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  Speaker 3: it's been desecrated. If you fold it the wrong way,
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  Speaker 3: it's desecrated. If you go... Like, I see so many
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  Speaker 3: of these babies... Well, I don't like it anymore. And
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  Speaker 3: they throw it onto the ground, then you burn it.
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  Speaker 2: How many flags in the last month and a half
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  Speaker 2: have you burned?
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  Speaker 3: Probably into the hundreds. I've picked up flags and set
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  Speaker 3: fire to them. When I see a child... And.
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  Speaker 2: Getting into trouble all the time?
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  Speaker 3: No, not necessarily. A lot of the flags on cars
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  Speaker 3: that fly off, I burn them on the spot. My neighbor.
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  Speaker 4: uh.
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  Speaker 3: bill elliott who is a very dear friend he's a
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  Speaker 3: marine corps veteran but he forgot to uplight his flag
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  Speaker 3: one night.
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  Speaker 1: Now i i know that because we have a flag
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  Speaker 1: in front of our house and.
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  Speaker 2: And we are uh... we are are uh... keep it
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  Speaker 2: lit at night as well you should sir yeah we
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  Speaker 2: keep it lit at night Well, your friend didn't have
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  Speaker 2: it lit.
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  Speaker 3: No, he did not. The flag had not been uplit
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  Speaker 3: for about three nights, so I set fire to it.
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  Speaker 2: But Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Elliott complained to the police that when you set fire
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  Speaker 1: to the flag, it was still hanging from his house.
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  Speaker 2: And he had somewhere in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: Of $ 3, 000 of damage on the rain gutter.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: He ought to get the flag down.
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  Speaker 1: No, but you damaged a rain gutter and you damaged
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  Speaker 1: some roofing tiles setting fire to the flag on his house.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I can understand his anger.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're going to burn a flag, at least
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  Speaker 1: take it off of... You know, that's why that guy
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  Speaker 1: was upset, because he thought maybe his kid.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. You don't... No, I wasn't going
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  Speaker 3: to set fire to the kid. Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 3: Him eating the Rocky Road, I should have set fire
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  Speaker 3: to the kid.
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  Speaker 2: You should have set fire to... The kid's eating Rocky Road.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't know that that Rocky Road represents the frozen
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  Speaker 1: mud that your buddies died in in Korea.
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  Speaker 2: And how you made that connection... When I.
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  Speaker 3: First saw Rocky Road ice cream, I said, G.D., there
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  Speaker 3: it is. It looks exactly like the rotten, stinking mud
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  Speaker 3: that Marines crawled in in Korea. And I will never, ever,
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  Speaker 3: ever allow Rocky Road to be served in my home.
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  Speaker 3: I will never eat Rocky Road. And when I go
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  Speaker 3: to a birthday party or I go to a child's
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  Speaker 3: birthday party at Farrell's where they're having the ice cream
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  Speaker 3: cake like my grandson... He had his big party, and
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  Speaker 3: they brought out Rocky Road. I said, mister, that's your
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  Speaker 3: first mistake. You want to make your second mistake, you'll
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  Speaker 3: leave it on the table.
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  Speaker 2: What did he do?
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  Speaker 3: He picked it up.
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  Speaker 2: He picked it up.
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  Speaker 3: You're G.D. Wright.
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  Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686, Phil Henry Show.
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  Speaker 2: Here is Bill. Bill, go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Phil, I got to say first that I respect
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  Speaker 6: all the veterans that fought for this country, but at
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  Speaker 6: the same time.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 5: The father.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but as a father, I've got.
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  Speaker 3: To tell you one other thing.
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  Speaker 6: I respect the American flag, but if I see you
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  Speaker 6: or anybody else coming after my six-year-old kid, I've got
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  Speaker 6: to clean your clock.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to take you out.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: You're welcome to take your chances.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, and I will clean your clock without even trying.
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  Speaker 3: You pay your money, you take your chances. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you ought to clean my clock. Why don't you clean
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  Speaker 3: your son's shirt? Why, in the name of God.
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  Speaker 4: I will apologize for my son's shirt.
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  Speaker 6: I'll apologize for anything.
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  Speaker 3: That he did.
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  Speaker 2: I have to ask my caller. Hold on.
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  Speaker 1: I've got to ask my other caller to get closer
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  Speaker 1: to the phone because I can hear your phone.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Bill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just saying that I.
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  Speaker 6: Respect the fact that he's upset about the flag, you know,
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  Speaker 6: being dirty and stuff.
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  Speaker 3: There's desecration of the flag going on all over this
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  Speaker 3: country with little kids dragging it, you know, through their potty.
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  Speaker 3: I found my five-year-old. He stuck the flag into his
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  Speaker 3: potty bowl. Now, what am I supposed to do with that?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not arguing about that point. What I'm telling you
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  Speaker 6: is you grab a shirt off my six-year-old son, I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to clean your car.
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  Speaker 3: No, you're not, because that's the United States American flag
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  Speaker 3: being desecrated by some rugrat eating the mud that our
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  Speaker 3: soldiers died in.
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  Speaker 6: So that gives you the right to go after my
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  Speaker 6: six-year-old son?
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  Speaker 4: Grow up.
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  Speaker 3: Are you an adult or are you a little kid?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how about asking the father, hey, look at
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  Speaker 2: the flag. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, because you get a guy like this
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  Speaker 3: who thinks that he's King Kong. It's not King Kong.
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  Speaker 4: You wouldn't protect your own son.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me you wouldn't protect your son if someone came
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  Speaker 3: after him. I'm not hurting your son. I'm taking that flag.
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  Speaker 6: You took a shirt off his back, and I'm supposed
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  Speaker 6: to think you're not hurting him?
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  Speaker 3: How am I hurting him when I'm taking the shirt
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  Speaker 3: off the flag and I'm protecting the flag by setting
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  Speaker 3: fire to it in a mall?
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any idea what you're doing.
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  Speaker 6: All I see is a man pulling a shirt off
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  Speaker 6: my six-year-old son. A man comes after my son, he's
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  Speaker 6: going down.
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  Speaker 3: So you weren't aware of the fact that your son
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  Speaker 3: was wearing a flag, is that it?
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  Speaker 6: Whether he is or isn't makes no difference. You come
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  Speaker 6: after my son.
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  Speaker 3: You don't love your country. Well, then you don't love
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  Speaker 3: your country.
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  Speaker 4: I love the country, but I love my son more.
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  Speaker 6: And anybody that doesn't, doesn't understand what family's all about.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let me ask you this. So your son
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  Speaker 3: takes a dump in the parking lot and wipes his
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  Speaker 3: rear end with the American flag, and I'm supposed to
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  Speaker 3: stand there and smile and go, what a nice boy.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what I'm supposed to do?
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  Speaker 6: I would never let my son do that.
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  Speaker 3: You let him grip the grip of the mud of Korea.
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  Speaker 3: Wearing a flag on your shirt is a very huge responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: And I think you should remind your son to keep
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  Speaker 3: the rocky road off of it and not even to
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  Speaker 3: eat the rocky road since it symbolizes so much horror
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  Speaker 3: for American Marines.
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  Speaker 6: And if you want to explain that to me, I'll
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  Speaker 6: talk to you about it. I'll say, hey, I didn't
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  Speaker 6: realize it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 6: But you don't touch my son. You ever do that,
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: you're crossing over the boundary.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you're going to get a lot of
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: parents saying that. And I can't believe you've already been
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: charged with battery on three different occasions.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Well, you know what? They can put me in prison.
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: They put Martin Luther in prison, didn't they?
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: This isn't a civil disobedience issue. This is simply common sense.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Bill, for your call.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686. We're talking with Lloyd Bonafide.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: I respect our veterans, just as that last gentleman, you know,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: as he so eloquently put it. But the desecration of
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: an American flag by a kid wearing a flag on
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: a shirt and dripping Rocky Road, and I still don't
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: get how the Rocky Road reminds him of the mud
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: that Marines died in in Korea.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: He won't eat Rocky Road.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: But he pulled the shirt off of that kid and
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: set fire to it with his, what is it, Craig?
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Navy issue Zippo. which he's had for 50 years.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: And this guy has been burning flags, 30 of them,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: for the last month. Not because he doesn't love the flag,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: but because he doesn't want to see it desecrated by
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: having stuff dripped on it. Anyway, it's the Phil Henry Show, 1-800-449-8686.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: The Phil Henry Show is back. We're back here. Hold on. 1-800-449-8686.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Your five-year-old grandson had an American flag, the little plastic.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: Let's keep in mind, you love the flag.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Well, what do you think I've been talking about here?
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: No, I understand that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure, because you're burning flags,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: people think that you don't like the flag.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: You burn it because it's been desecrated.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: According to the military code of conduct and etiquette around
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: the United States flag, if it has been desecrated or
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: in any way has been abused or mutilated by dragging
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: on the ground, by being flown without a light, any
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: of those things, yes, then the flag is duly set
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: on fire by a military-issue Zippo lighter. Now, you can't
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: light it on fire without.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: What, like with a match?
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: No.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: You have to use the... The one that I use
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: is my Navy issue. And I can tell you.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let me get back to your son. I mean,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: your grandson. Your grandson puts the flag into a potty.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: That's right. I set fire to it, and I set
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: fire to his potty tray, too. I was so incensed.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: How old is he?
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: He's just under two. They're potty training him.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Well, Jesus, he ought to still be in diapers.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Well, no, no, not him.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: No, we're sticking him on the can, and he's going
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: to learn how to do.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: All right, 1-800.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: The kid's going to do that, man. He's going to
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: take the flag and shove it into the potty.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I understand that, but there's no way he flies that
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: flag again. Let me tell you something. If he'd been
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: sitting on that potty, I would have set fire to
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: his ass. That's how angry I was.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: All right, hold on, man, because there's an awful lot
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: being said here, especially after conversing with your wife and
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: with this Dr.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Newman that says that... Are you... Do you go to
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the VA for medicine?
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Do you think that you're unbalanced?
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: No, I do not think I'm unbalanced. I went through
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: a lot in my life, but I do take some
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: of the medicines that they've given me.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: And by setting fire to flags on kids' shirts.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: No, no, kids don't have any respect for the flag.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: They don't know the difference between Old Glory and Blue's Clues.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: As far as they're concerned, it's that G.D.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: Dog.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And, oh, man.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: All right, hold on.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: 1-800-449-8686.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Let me go over to... Don, you're on the Phil
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Henry Show.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: How are you doing?
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, go ahead.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Um, sir.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: He actually needs to definitely see a psychiatrist.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: You got your radio turned up there, Don?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Don?
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Huh? You got your radio turned up?
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: No.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: He definitely needs to see a psychiatrist.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Are you a doctor?
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: No, but I am a veteran, and I have had
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: sensitivity training. I do know the fundamental principle of what
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: I serve my country by going over to.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Panama and by serving in the Persian Gulf.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: And by serving in Somalia, and are prepared to go
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: back over to Afghanistan if necessary.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And what that fundamental right, sir, is, is to serve
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: under the flag.
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: And preserve the very fundamental freedoms that people have to
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: stand nose-to-nose with me and argue the fact, the thing
• 19:09
  Speaker 7: that I've built my entire life on, arguing against. That's
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: called the Bill of Rights.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: You do not desecrate the flag. And if you're truly.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: In the military, then you understand how a flag is treated,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: if you're really in the military.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: I understand exactly how a flag is treated.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And what about the Rocky Road and all of the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: things I've mentioned?
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: You know, the Rocky Road thing just shows that you
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: are definitely mentally unbalanced.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: How do you figure that?
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: How do you figure a piece of ice cream, you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: I watch people die. You know, I saw people die
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: over there, so now I can't paint my house tan
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: because it reminds me of the desert.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: That's right, and the Rocky Road. reminds me of the
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Korean mud that they take.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll be right back.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Phil Henry, 1-800-449-8686.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I'm back here with Lloyd, a Korean War veteran.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: The flags that we see flying all over America these days,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it must make you very proud. I mean, you have
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to be proud to see a flag flying the way
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: that it is, to see the people flying the colors the.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Way that they do. You know what I'm saying?
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: In other words, it must be a phenomenal thing to see.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Isn't it something that you're proud of?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: You know, I love to see that flag flying, but
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: when I see a four-year-old child take it, and hit
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: the dog with it or tie it around the cat's ass. Or,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I saw one kid say something along the
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: lines of, oops, I had an accident, and the wife
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: takes the, the mother takes the pants down, and it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: an American flag diaper. That's when I see red.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Would you take the diaper off the kid?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: That's when I see red.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: No, answer my question. Would you pull the diaper off
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: that kid and burn the diaper?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: You're a G.D.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Wright.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, pal, you're going to have some problems.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: That may be desecrating a flag, but you're going to
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: have some serious problems.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Here is Shannon on the Phil Henry Show. Go ahead, Shannon.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Well, for one, I have a real serious problem with
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: what he's been saying. Number one, you have to realize
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: that as four-year-olds and everything else, we dress our children.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: So you shouldn't have a problem with the kids. You
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: should have a problem with the parents.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with the kid. I don't
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: have a problem with the kid.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Do me a.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: Favor and shut up for a minute.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with the kid. I got
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: a problem with the shirt.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: No, but you do have a problem with the kid
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: because you're grabbing the shirt off the kid's back.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not the kid.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you something.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: If you ever touch my car, it'd be the last
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: thing you did.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: You wish you were back in whatever you were in.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Quit fantasizing. Quit fantasizing.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Oh, please, quit fantasizing. Let me tell you something. My
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: husband's in the military.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: What do you think about an American flag diaper?
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: My grandfather was in World War II. What about an
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: American flag diaper?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: My dad was in Vietnam.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: And I have never, ever seen anybody like you.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: What about an American flag diaper?
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: I cannot believe it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Do you honestly believe that a kid is supposed to
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: squeeze some nasty-ass pea.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Green mixture into a flag? Excuse me? Do you think
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that that... What about an American flag diaper where a
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: mother proudly allows her child.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: I don't... Well, you know what? I don't believe in that.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: But on the same token, I don't.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Believe in some old man chasing my child down with
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: a lighter.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, Lloyd, if I may
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: jump in here, Shannon. So you say that you would
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: burn that diaper?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, I would.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And what if you couldn't get the diaper off the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: kid for whatever reason because of safety pins?
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: You'd beat his butt? I hope that child doesn't mind
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: getting hot because.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: What, you would set fire to the diaper with the
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: kid in it? Mr.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I left some buddies back in the Rocky Road ice
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: cream mixture of Korea. You know what?
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: People like you need to be locked up.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Locked?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: What, you're calling me nuts now, is that it?
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: You are nuts. You are out of your mind. You
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: are out of your flipping mind.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: There is something wrong with you. Spit it out.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Spit it out.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: You're going to set a little boy on fire, a
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: little girl on fire because they have a diaper on
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: their bed? They didn't put that on there. Their parents
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: did it.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Why are they doing their doo-doo into it?
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Hey, they didn't do that. Their parents did it, not them.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, Shannon.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God, open your eyes.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You're an old man.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Open your eyes.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: If I was wearing a diaper, and there are some
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: individuals of my age who do, and it was on fire,
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: I'd take it off. and I would expect any child
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: whose diaper I set fire to to remove that diaper post-haste.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: At four years old or under that, they don't know
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: what to do. They're like, oh, my God, my butt's
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: on fire. Hello.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Well, they sure as hell know how to take their
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: poo out of their diaper and throw it all over
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: the room, now, don't they?
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what? Some people your age, don't they?
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: They know how to throw their crap all over the place,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: but you know what? You have no right.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you. You're telling me that a kid that
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: throws his own.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: You know, Lloyd.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just emotional.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Well, you're emotional.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: No, you make us emotional. For us that are... We're
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: serving our country now, and you're going to be emotional?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: You're serving your country.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: I tell you what, why don't you get your uniform?
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: You do what we have to do.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Well, look.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: And if you can't handle it, well, hey, we'll just
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: send you out to the pasture.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Lady, I fought for this country... You know what?
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: So is my husband. So is my family. So I
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: don't want to hear your beat-ass.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: What do they think about Rocky Road? You know what?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'd like to know what they think about Rocky Road
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: ice cream. Really?
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: I tell you what, they don't think nothing about it. Oh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: my God.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: A baby dribbles.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: It onto the American flag on their shirt, and you're
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: going to set the baby on fire? I tell you what, bud,
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: I'll set your butt on fire.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me tell you something, lady. If you could
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: get your hand down the back of your diaper, you
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: can take it off.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Hey, you know what? You tell me where you live,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: and I'll put your diaper on fire.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: You know something? I can hear people laughing.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Well, there's some people in the studio here who think
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that this is pretty ridiculous.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you what.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous because he's being ridiculous.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not being ridiculous.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: You know what? Everybody right now is showing their patriotism.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: They're trying to show support for their country, and you're
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: sitting there downgrading everybody. You're sitting there saying that we're nothing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: In 1998, when she finally had to give me the medicine,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and I said, you know, I'm wearing diapers now, and
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: this is about as low as it gets. But if
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I ever see anybody try to set fire to my diaper,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I will tell you. You know what?
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: Because eventually you're going to dribble on that American flag
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: whenever you're wearing it and you don't know what's going on.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Well, guess what? And this is probably going to mess
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: your plans up because I wear a flame retardant diaper.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: Hey, there's always.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: A way to get through it. What in the hell?
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: There's always a way to get through it.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: The diapers that I wear are flame retardant.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: Is that all you have to say?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Is that it? I mean, you must be mental. You
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: are mental.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Do you think.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Who is this?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry?
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, who's this?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: This is the Phil Henry Show.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Did he get the phone again? I'm sorry. This is...
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Flame retardant. Hello?
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: See, I proved my point. He is out of his mind.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: The guy's got.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: He doesn't know what he's doing. He should be locked up.
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: You know something?
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: We are.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Setting kids on fire.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: What kind of man is that?
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I am a nurse here, and apparently he got out
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of the day room.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what? Then there's something wrong with your
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: nursing home. Let a man like that lose.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I have to agree with that.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: We are very sorry. I had no idea. He was
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: in the TV room, and he was watching everything. All
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: we do, we have a fortune.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: You better make sure that man doesn't get loose on
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the streets, Tom.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's claiming that he's setting fire to children.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I am so sorry. He doesn't mean any harm.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he does. He set our children on fire.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Give me a break.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Come here.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I am mad.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I'm going to spank you.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: You better spank him hard.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: All right.