Latest / Boundary Corner Podcast / A New Era in Blacksburg
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- 0:46Welcome back to D, boundary Corner podcast, I am Curtis
- 0:50Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler man.
- 0:53We've got a lot, a lot to cover tonight especially for an
- 0:58episode. We're not even talking about a
- 1:00game, no games. No.
- 1:06But can I say something Braun? If you watch Sunday night Y'all.
- 1:11So Curtis is a nervous wreck on social media potentially DM
- 1:19stuff this week. Y'all know I was a nervous wreck
- 1:21because my fear was, We're not gonna get a decent fucking
- 1:24coach. Junk, our not going to get a
- 1:25good coach Jesus, without going to get a coach.
- 1:27When we have some whiskey here. Oh, I'm nerve-wracking bronze,
- 1:32more, cool and relaxed. Kind of if he shot me a few
- 1:37texts. We're a little worried came over
- 1:39it. Yeah.
- 1:41Yeah. You know, that not that worried
- 1:45but definitely getting a little anxious and especially as we got
- 1:52into late Monday night, we started to see a couple other
- 1:54names pop off. And we're like, all right, who
- 1:57we getting? Who we getting and it turned
- 2:00out. We got a dark horse.
- 2:03One of our Dark Horses. I don't think you pulled the
- 2:06clip Brian, but if you go back to Sunday during that episode,
- 2:12Print proud was a dark horse. Brian.
- 2:16I was like he's a dark horse. I don't know if we'll talk to
- 2:18him. You said Point Blank.
- 2:21He will get a phone call. And he clearly got a phone call.
- 2:24He was one of the first three phone calls with Babcock made
- 2:28and that would be Brent. Pry, your new hockey head coach
- 2:33and can I say, well, we kind of put him at the Dark Horse level.
- 2:37Go for it. If you recall, when we were
- 2:40going through it, we've mentioned, Brent Pride, couple
- 2:41times just as behind-the-scenes me and Brian talking, and I
- 2:45said, you know, it's a name. Good defensive coordinator
- 2:49coached a long time. Some experience in Blacksburg,
- 2:53But when James Franklin locked in that 10-year deal instead of
- 2:58being in our list, we moved him out because he'd been with
- 3:01Franklin so long. I mean that 10 years do
- 3:05right-hand man, it was like Maybe they call him.
- 3:09But is it is he one of these DC's for life and he's making
- 3:13over a million bucks? He's got, you know, an elite
- 3:17defensive unit. I mean, they're a couple games
- 3:20this year. I mean, the Ohio State game this
- 3:22year in the Michigan game against those offenses at
- 3:25defense kept them in those games and I mean, just a linebacker
- 3:30Factory. Oh yeah.
- 3:32And we're going to hit all that tonight.
- 3:34So it was this Underlying reasons like he's just not going
- 3:38to come and then lo and behold mid morning on Tuesday, Pete
- 3:43them on first reported and Pete's pretty good, but it was
- 3:47about 30 minutes later. I think all of Hokie nation was
- 3:51like when David teal put out the Tweet.
- 3:53Yeah, we got our guy. Once you saw till you're like,
- 3:56all right. Somebody on the inside has
- 3:59confirmed it because Tia wasn't just going to repeat a report
- 4:03from family. Tia was going to confirm Shit
- 4:06himself before he put it out there and here we are.
- 4:11We wanted to wait and do this episode until after we saw the
- 4:16press conference introduction. All that stuff that was going on
- 4:19today and I'm thankful for that because I feel like we get to
- 4:23kind of talk about some fun stuff to on top of just here's
- 4:28the higher. Here's here's why we like it and
- 4:31here's who we hope he brings along with them.
- 4:33We get we get to have a little bit more.
- 4:36To talk about on that. So I'm thankful for that.
- 4:38I'm thankful that we play a little bit of a waiting game.
- 4:41They're pushed it back a day and hopefully, you guys enjoy what
- 4:45we're about to about to bring your way.
- 4:47Absolutely. All right, well, Brian, just,
- 4:50I'm sure everybody's heard it. But let's get a quick run of his
- 4:52background obviously, born in Altoona, Pennsylvania.
- 4:58But spent kind of his formative years at Lexington is dad was a
- 5:03football coach smaller schools and high schools.
- 5:06High schools around basically West Virginia Virginia in the
- 5:09greater Middle Atlantic area. So played football at Lexington,
- 5:12High School and I'm going to start in 1998 because the last
- 5:17piece everybody knows 98. He has a run at Western
- 5:19Carolina. 2000 to 2006. He was at ull with a name.
- 5:25If you are a hokie fan of Our Generation, you know, Ricky
- 5:29bustle, the offensive coordinator for the 99, team
- 5:32offensive coordinator, throughout the 90s some of those
- 5:35big teams. He was the DC for Ricky down
- 5:37there, they have some success and probably two names that pop
- 5:42out immediately. He coached Peanut Tillman, if
- 5:45you watch the NFL in the 2000 was a ball.
- 5:47Hawking Ike Taylor. So already coaching at a
- 5:51defensive. Native level NFL type players.
- 5:54Yep and you know muscle gets let go and no 6 and he goes over to
- 5:59Memphis. Is that a red flag for anybody?
- 6:03He coached at Memphis for three. It's not when you see who he
- 6:07coached. Oh yeah.
- 6:11And he coached Ontario, who was like a low level 2 Star and that
- 6:17kid when the first round played quite a few years that big one
- 6:21of the most unreal talented, guys, to be 300 is the the size
- 6:26to athleticism ratio that done. Tha repo brought to the table
- 6:30was ridiculous early. Um, settle and yeah, I'm
- 6:33settled. Yeah, so he stays there.
- 6:37Just just three years goes over to Georgia Southern where he was
- 6:40defensive coordinator and safeties coach.
- 6:44So, right there, it kind of tells you linebackers safeties
- 6:49d-line, own thing and coaches really is the corners.
- 6:53But then in 2011, essentially, this is his big break.
- 6:57He's hired by James Franklin and Vandy, and basically, Linebacker
- 7:02defensive coordinator associate head coach recruited.
- 7:06The likes of Oren Burks, who's currently the Green Bay Packers,
- 7:09and a very, very good linebacker in.
- 7:12Jack Cunningham never coach those guys but recruited them to
- 7:15Vandy. And then obviously the Penn
- 7:23State follows Franklin. 2014 associate head coach
- 7:29co-defensive, coordinator there and Vandy with Bob shoot.
- 7:32Then he takes over when Shoup leaves coaches, linebackers and
- 7:36Brian. Give us the laundry list of
- 7:40players he coached there and recruited.
- 7:43Yeah. So we've got Michael.
- 7:46Parsons is the big one. These five-star crushing it for
- 7:53the Cowboys. I mean, it's just there's not
- 7:57there's not really a whole lot. You can say that people already
- 7:59know about Micah Perkins, you got shotgun, Tony yeutter gross
- 8:02motto, microphone hole, Yeah, Fredericksburg Mike whole Big
- 8:11Ten linebacker the Year, guys. He also recruited that aren't in
- 8:15the league yet. Brandon Smith.
- 8:19Linebacker at a Louisa. He's been having a good season
- 8:23there for the Nittany Lions and was also on the yeah.
- 8:30And then obviously Devon for the 4 star running back out of
- 8:33Stafford. He's the guy that stolen, he's
- 8:36the guy. So yeah, that's a, that's a list
- 8:42of nothing but like, four and five star guys that he's been
- 8:45able to pull a handful of them coming out of Of Virginia.
- 8:50Well just think about the list really for the last 20 years.
- 8:54Consistently guys he's coached on his defense have made it to
- 8:58the league with the exception of the stop at Georgia, Southern
- 9:00and 2010 every stop at least one or multiple players making it to
- 9:05the league. Now that is a huge selling point
- 9:08and it's almost this thing is I can do it at any level, you have
- 9:12a Feelin, Tillman and Ike Taylor we're not five-star guys, they
- 9:16were you LL. Shows you some developmental,
- 9:20but also shows you can recruit, well, he can recruit, he can
- 9:23identify talent, and he can develop.
- 9:27So it's kind of the trifecta, right?
- 9:29And it's what the Hokies need. We never affected.
- 9:33We're never gonna pull all the files Stars.
- 9:35So we've got to be able to develop.
- 9:37Now Brian, we need to identify the guys, we need to be able to
- 9:40pull enough of those four or five star to keep us in that top
- 9:4425 top 20 recruiting ranking but we also need to be able to uh,
- 9:48In a Five Guys that other schools aren't that probably are
- 9:52under under ranked in their their star ranking.
- 9:56And once we get those guys on campus we got to be able to
- 9:59develop them and get them to reach their maximum potential.
- 10:02Absolutely. Now obviously we did Skip and
- 10:05obviously the biggest point was he was here from he was at
- 10:09Virginia Tech as a grad assistant under Bud under Frank
- 10:13from 1995 to 1998 of rlq know what those years.
- 10:18Were 93 and 94 with the emergence 95 and 96, especially
- 10:2595 and 96, where the brought with it, bringing to the
- 10:29National stage, the Sugar Bowl, and the Orange Bowl playing,
- 10:32Texas and beaten, Texas, and play Nebraska in the Orange
- 10:34Bowl. And it's this feeling I
- 10:39mentioned to a couple people today.
- 10:41If you watch the, we'll talk about the pressure in general
- 10:43later, there's some orange and maroon blood in him.
- 10:47You just, you feel it. You feel it.
- 10:50He talked about coming to camp at Tec when Frank was a coach,
- 10:53when he was in high school. So this isn't like you direct.
- 11:00Perfect. This is the Hokey Pokey.
- 11:03This is like the second cousin Right.
- 11:07Yep. And and this is and just hearing
- 11:11him speak. I mean, this was the stop that
- 11:14mattered a lot for him for years.
- 11:16Yeah. And I think that I think that's
- 11:19the biggest thing and having having someone that is familiar
- 11:24with what it takes to win in Blacksburg, what Blacksburg is
- 11:29all about what Virginia Tech football is all about sometimes.
- 11:34You have to live it to know it. Yes.
- 11:36Sir and here's an example of someone that did live it.
- 11:41So I think that that's going to be big for us and he's had stops
- 11:46at obviously Penn State being a bigger time program than
- 11:49Virginia Tech. He seen what it takes to compete
- 11:53at that type of level. Yeah.
- 11:55In in the in the Modern Age of college football essentially
- 11:58since kind of the big flip that happened kind of towards the end
- 12:01of the 2000s where some of the the Being and everything else
- 12:07really went went into overdrive, their right so he knows how to
- 12:12win in that environment and that's something that we really
- 12:15haven't had at the head coach position because you know,
- 12:19towards the end of Frank's career, he had he hadn't figured
- 12:22it out. He hadn't been able to adapt
- 12:23towards the towards the end. There went a never really got it
- 12:27fully. Yeah.
- 12:28And and the other other aspects that were negatives in his role
- 12:33there it just it wasn't a good fit.
- 12:37We finally got someone that has seen the inside of that type of
- 12:40program and knows what it takes to win.
- 12:44So I'm looking forward to it. I'm really I mean obviously the
- 12:49big thing is going to be what is the staff fill out?
- 12:52Like, but we did get some big news today on that front.
- 12:56So this kind of came out just before the oppressor
- 13:03compensation for coach. And assistant salary.
- 13:08Oh yeah. It's an and that's that's big
- 13:13because I didn't see it going this High.
- 13:18I didn't think we were going to look for it getting this High
- 13:21because he's getting four million at the gate 3.5
- 13:25supplemental and then the 500k you know, State salary.
- 13:30Yeah. So he's getting 4 million at the
- 13:33gate but went was true to his word.
- 13:36Two million dollar bump in assistant salary pool.
- 13:40Another 2.75 allocated for recruiting assistance.
- 13:46Those those are a single bucket. So if you need to name of one to
- 13:53the other, you know, a little little more in one little more
- 13:56in the other, you're essentially looking at almost eight million
- 14:00combined between those two buckets to bring in quality on
- 14:07field, coaches tent on field, coaches and a very solid
- 14:10recruiting staff. Yep.
- 14:12It is. It's going to be second behind
- 14:14Clemson as of this year. And it's one of those things
- 14:20it's did some math with some folks today you can play both
- 14:24coordinators a million bucks in the average, starting salary for
- 14:28your assistant, coaches is 400,000.
- 14:32Eight significantly lower than that right now.
- 14:34And everybody knows that so dipping into that bucket is
- 14:37huge. I mean, it's one of those things
- 14:41especially the way we would set it up to be able to shift it.
- 14:45You know, you get your recruiting staff in place and
- 14:47you still have a, you know, an excess of 300,000 dollars.
- 14:50And you know, somebody has a great year because hundred
- 14:54thousand dollar bonus for this guy.
- 14:56Won't 650, not 550. Okay, we're going to move this
- 15:00over here to here. I like them in the same.
- 15:02Look at, they need to stay in the same bucket because I think
- 15:05the recruiting departments going to be that turnover.
- 15:07You're going to have some stable, guys, But to me, it's
- 15:11going to be people who want to get their foot in the door.
- 15:15You know, guy comes in, he's here, two years, he's making 60
- 15:18Grand a year, he gets goes up to 75 but he leaves for a bigger
- 15:21position that's going to probably fluctuate every few
- 15:25years to where it's going to go a little higher than a little
- 15:27lower where you can move the money back and forth.
- 15:30So I think with did that perfectly and he was true to his
- 15:32word, it was going up, it is a hell of a lot more money.
- 15:36And yeah, we went from middle of the pack of the ACC two number
- 15:41two, number two in one move, so I It's bets big.
- 15:47That shows a firm commitment to football, which we've been
- 15:51begging for four years. And what have you been saying,
- 15:56Todd water? Put the money in your cash cow
- 15:59and your cash cow will make you more money for everybody.
- 16:04Exactly. And we're doing, it's great to
- 16:06see Brian. Some other things that have came
- 16:09down the past few days since the Brent pry announcement.
- 16:14You've got four guys in recruiting class.
- 16:16Pretty much already saying that they are locked in Paris and st.
- 16:21Germain from up the Nova, Malachi Madison down here in the
- 16:25r-va Bryce, Juke up another running back and to me probably
- 16:30the biggest because you feel like he is a Bell cow leader of
- 16:35recruiting for the guys committed Rashad Purnell had a
- 16:39Highland Springs even bigger where he is.
- 16:43I think having those guys confirm, I looked somebody I
- 16:49can't remember who it was. One of the guys I think might
- 16:52have been Lamar law. Someone like the Tweet of the
- 16:54higher. I know over the next few days,
- 16:56they're going to be having conversations with the coaches
- 17:00but to have four guys. Good and especially Pernell
- 17:03already kind of back in the boat is got to feel great.
- 17:09Yeah, I mean parnell's definitely a big one there.
- 17:13Just speaking personally having a player from a program like
- 17:17Highland Springs or confirm what they're doing, he's very, he's
- 17:22been very vocal on Twitter throughout his recruitment so
- 17:26that's been big as well. So that's something that I'm
- 17:30looking forward to getting it. To him on campus.
- 17:33And he's also he kind of fits that mold of what we're looking
- 17:36for in those those defensive linemen.
- 17:38I know we got a new new system that we're looking at here.
- 17:42Probably coming in, but more than likely, we're looking for
- 17:46the same type of player. Yeah.
- 17:49Because it's going to it's going to be a very Gap oriented
- 17:53defensive line technique. So we're looking for, the
- 17:57probably the same type of players that can hold those
- 17:59gaps. Bigger and taller type type,
- 18:05type lime. And then we are accustomed to
- 18:07recruiting. And some of the recruiting that
- 18:09we've seen in the last couple years is denoted that.
- 18:11Yeah. So kind of one of those things
- 18:13where luckily, the resurrection that we take in it even though,
- 18:17you know, we there are some holes in this.
- 18:19They be ready for the portal, we're going to start having a
- 18:22portal segment every time we record, but it's going to be
- 18:26some in and we're hopefully, I mean some out and hopefully we
- 18:28get some in as well. And I mean will identify Defy
- 18:32those, when we talk that segment a little bit later guys, but
- 18:35getting those for to express commitment, you know, we're
- 18:41hearing whispers that sounds like orgy is still ready to
- 18:45potentially committal the 15th and enroll early.
- 18:48So so that that that's a big one as well.
- 18:51It's not Twitter official or social media official but that's
- 18:56the that's the word we're getting on him and that's going
- 18:58to be big because more than likely We're going to have two
- 19:04freshmen, quarterbacks potentially being the only
- 19:07quarterbacks on our roster and unless we get the portal we're
- 19:10definitely hitting the portal for a quarterback.
- 19:12I'll make a bet on that, something else won at least one
- 19:17something else that will set up and this was pretty much
- 19:19confirmed this will set up within 30 minutes of his
- 19:22announcement. So basically the announcement
- 19:24was a noon on Tuesday within 30 minutes, there was a zoom call
- 19:28setup with football alumni that happen.
- 19:32Today and white Vic, put out there, almost 170, former
- 19:36players on this call who to have that done in less than 48 hours,
- 19:42that tells you that a lot of these guys respected and it's
- 19:46already been seen. You have guys like antoniou
- 19:48Banks, the white obviously JC you've got guys who set here and
- 19:53did it by putting that stamp on. And by all accounts, this was
- 19:57something that prize suggested. This wasn't like width:auto.
- 20:02Was a good idea. Had it set up.
- 20:04This was something that price I wanted to do, brought it up, it
- 20:09got set up rolled out and by all accounts, that that have been
- 20:15made public at this point, absolutely crushed it with those
- 20:20football alumni between Dwight Brandon Hill out there saying
- 20:26some good stuff on what he's heard saw some good stuff for my
- 20:30think Rock Carmichael's. Out there.
- 20:33So yeah I mean a lot of a lot of folks that you know and love
- 20:37that you see active on social media, have have made it.
- 20:40Well, clear that you know, they're stamping this this
- 20:46higher at this point. Obviously, you got to see the
- 20:49winds come obviously, and obviously year one is going to
- 20:52be interesting with all the roster management issues that we
- 20:55have set up for us. But You know, year 2 year 3, I
- 21:02think, if the winds come it's going to it's going to be a home
- 21:05run here and if the portal can be our friend, then, you know,
- 21:10we'll see what year one looks like.
- 21:12Yeah, absolutely. And you know something that they
- 21:15did not check the box for wit and he said it, he mentioned it
- 21:20today, he didn't have any head coaching experience but the way
- 21:23it seems as those opportunities had been there.
- 21:27Not once not twice, but three times.
- 21:30In the last eight years, the opportunities at Georgia,
- 21:32Southern and opportunity that you LL, that essentially would
- 21:35have been the Billy Napier higher and then last year at
- 21:37Buffalo he didn't take them. And then today during the
- 21:41presser and this was when I unfortunately had a step off but
- 21:45I kind of heard what was said. I think you were still on the
- 21:47cabron. Yep.
- 21:49Basically. I didn't want to go to this
- 21:51place to this place to this place to this place but Virginia
- 21:53Tech, I would go there. Yep.
- 21:56Again, it's that whole I believe he has ballooned maroon and
- 21:58orange and his Blood. Like because he had a handful of
- 22:02programs in the entire country that he was willing to take that
- 22:08step out there outside of the, the zone that he was comfortable
- 22:12in and say, I want to give it a shot here, I want to see what I
- 22:16can do here, and it sounds like he wanted to be a head coach,
- 22:20but he wanted to be a head coach when it was the right fit the
- 22:22right time. And we were lucky enough to be
- 22:27in that in that number. So, Here we are.
- 22:31Brent, prize the head coach? We hear it.
- 22:34We've heard a lot of people excited and apparently it was
- 22:37mentioned at a couple places but everybody's looking forward to
- 22:43the spring game again. Everybody get, please get that
- 22:48released as soon as possible for me and Brian.
- 22:50So we can essentially start talking our lives and be like,
- 22:52listen, we want to go, we're liking this shit and we're
- 22:55going, it's going to be a party up there.
- 23:00Exactly. And it's the whole thing.
- 23:03He said, the fans matter at that.
- 23:05I mean music to your ears, that's because the fans do
- 23:08matter and talked about embracing the community.
- 23:11And I think when he said that, I think he meant Hokie nation in
- 23:13general. Not just the blacks were.
- 23:15I think he's going to be unbelievable up in Blacksburg
- 23:17Iran, that Community. But to get a Big Spring Game,
- 23:23usually spring game, if you can remember and we went the West
- 23:27stands, where we were right? Right.
- 23:30Always north south. They always close it.
- 23:35I think they might have to just bully open the stadium because I
- 23:40think they could get a full house for this.
- 23:43The excitement around it. It's definitely more excitement
- 23:47than 20 and I think there was some excitement with Flint a,
- 23:50but I feel like there's a lot more excitement right now,
- 23:53because I think we've seen how bad it can be.
- 23:57Yes. And if in this isn't just so
- 24:01I'll say this for about it. Talk about the pressure and my
- 24:04overall impression of the presser was this.
- 24:08Everybody has maroon and orange colored glasses on right now,
- 24:12right? We absolutely moved on.
- 24:14We got a new coach. Yeah that's great.
- 24:16This went beyond that. This wasn't just a guy got up
- 24:20there and he said the right things.
- 24:23This this was legitimate you feel this guy cares about what
- 24:29he's about to do. He cares about this community
- 24:31cares about doing the right thing to get this program where
- 24:35it needs to be. And in that I think is where
- 24:39we're kind of, we're kind of feeling ourselves right now,
- 24:43right? Yes, it feels good to be a hokie
- 24:45fan. Again, it doesn't feel like
- 24:49there's something around the corner that's going to bite our
- 24:51ass at least when it comes to football.
- 24:54Right now. We feel like we're on the
- 24:56upswing here and it feels that way.
- 24:59Not just because we got a new coach but because of what he's
- 25:02doing, what he's saying and how he's caring about his business
- 25:05and how he's expressing his Admiration for the roots of this
- 25:12program and what it means. Well yeah, 100% And I think
- 25:15today too, I was listening, you know, usually everybody wins
- 25:21depressor, usually everybody has it's hard to lose the pray.
- 25:25You might not win it, but you're not going to lose it.
- 25:27Everybody. It's a little on the presser.
- 25:28Even if you do it bad to me, this was a borderline home run,
- 25:33especially when he got into discussing and I know you've got
- 25:37this a little later, but I think it's Good time to hit it before
- 25:39we Deep dive a, the way you mentioned, James Franklin.
- 25:43In the emotion. He showed about that about him
- 25:45being like a brother they've known each other for close to 30
- 25:49years. How do you motion?
- 25:51He talked about him, given the opportunity and, you know, bring
- 25:56them along to Penn State. But then the emotion, when he
- 26:00talked about bud and Frank or as he called Frank coach, And it
- 26:05was one of those things when he said it.
- 26:08Like you met Frank like you soon as he said you could just get
- 26:12that Vibe. Like he means Frank and he got a
- 26:15little choked up and you can feel the emotion from him.
- 26:19No one that 26 years ago, he had coached at East Stroudsburg.
- 26:25He said, 30 letters in stinney was on staff.
- 26:28Had coached him in high school, in the game of g a job and you
- 26:33could hear the emotion in the feel of they gave him his first
- 26:37big opportunity in 26 years later, they're sitting in the
- 26:42room as he's announced. The head coach of the first big
- 26:46university that took a chance on him and it was genuine.
- 26:50It wasn't it wasn't fake. It wasn't, it was so genuine and
- 26:54you can say all the right. Right things.
- 26:55But when you have two moments like that, you know, this guy's
- 26:59genuine real deal. Yeah.
- 27:02Not some bullshitter. Well, I'll tell you what the
- 27:05difference is and we've seen it. The last two weeks is that him
- 27:09and JC? You're Cut From the Same Cloth,
- 27:11they are the way they are personable with in relatable
- 27:19with everyone, they come in contact with, but the way they
- 27:22wear, their emotions on their sleeve, you see it, you feel it
- 27:26when they talk and that is resonating 100% with the fan
- 27:33base right now, it is 100% is. Yep.
- 27:39And so, one of the things that coach pry LED off with was
- 27:44talking about kind of his philosophy, what he's bringing
- 27:49as a head coach to Virginia Tech.
- 27:52So this is going to be a little bit more.
- 27:55Little bit less abstract than some of the things we're talking
- 27:57about here. But I mean right out the gate
- 27:59hire the right people and recruit the right players.
- 28:03Yep. And when I hear how the right
- 28:05people, I don't think that means ever jigna Tech will go higher
- 28:11the most high-dollar person. You've got to find someone
- 28:16that's going to fit in this culture.
- 28:18You can't just go out and be like, well, he's a good coach,
- 28:21you got to find somebody to fix the culture.
- 28:23So when I hear him discussing hire the right people, you got
- 28:27to have the right mentality. You got to have the right
- 28:29background. And you got into me also, thank
- 28:33you gotta have the right Connections in the footprint.
- 28:36Yep. And you got to be the right
- 28:38person that will do the job, well, but also be able to sell
- 28:43the culture and vision and what it is to play in Blacksburg
- 28:47because it's different than other places.
- 28:50And the thing I like about him coming from a place, like, Happy
- 28:55Valley is that he understands I know that's more of a an
- 28:58established and prestigious in terms of football program that
- 29:04were jigna Tech has been historically but Happy valleys
- 29:10in the middle of fucking nowhere.
- 29:12He understands what it takes to recruit big-time players to a
- 29:17place that isn't a major metro area that doesn't have all the
- 29:22bells and whistles within a short drive.
- 29:25Yeah, he knows what it takes to recruit to that type of
- 29:30community. It's absolutely true.
- 29:34And and it's also the expectations, right?
- 29:38They have expectations up there. Like we have down here.
- 29:41We expect winning, we expect. Good football product.
- 29:44Now, the other PC talk about was recruiting, right, people?
- 29:47We've hit on this already and it's not only Virginia Tech.
- 29:54You know, like you said, Ron earlier, you need to get a
- 29:57five-star every now and then and we kind of had them periodically
- 30:01but get the four stars but then find the under the radar guys.
- 30:05Find the athlete. And bring them in and develop
- 30:08them. Because in also, he said it,
- 30:13people recruit people that want to be here.
- 30:17And he kind of and I love what he said today.
- 30:19There's gonna be some people would go after that, they're
- 30:22just not going to fit here. And that's okay, right?
- 30:25It's okay, it's okay on the people that want to be here.
- 30:30And Brian, you know, we talked about managing developing, the
- 30:35roxtor, what's the biggest thing.
- 30:36And I think, Think, if you follow closely what this
- 30:39statement right here? Say it recruit our footprint.
- 30:49He hammered that point home and what we're talking about is
- 30:54much, like we've seen Mac Brown due to a point much like we've
- 30:58seen some other folks, do he's going to try to put up a fence
- 31:02around this state. Get as much of the High Caliber
- 31:06talent in the state to stay home and play in Blacksburg.
- 31:12And I mean, he emphasized it from a relationship perspective,
- 31:17he wants play. Here's where, you know, Mom, Dad
- 31:22uncle grandma. They can get her car and drive.
- 31:26Yeah. They can get in the car and
- 31:27drive and see their son play big-time college football.
- 31:34Yep. And you can't do that.
- 31:38If some of the best players are going to Alabama or some of the
- 31:41best players are heading down to Florida, but you can do that
- 31:44every damn weekend if they're going to Blacksburg you.
- 31:46Damn right. They are.
- 31:48Every weekend and I think that that's something that we can
- 31:52start getting some wins there. And I, it seems like he's the
- 31:57type of guy that can sell that Vision to those players.
- 32:01And say, yeah, you can go to, you know, fucking Chapel Hill,
- 32:04but drive an extra hour to Blacksburg stay in your home
- 32:09state and let's build something big and get get Virginia Tech
- 32:14back to where it was when they played for a national title.
- 32:18You ever seen you and see in the National Title, never actually
- 32:22ever seen them in a big bowl. It's been a while, like one time
- 32:32compared to where from 1995 to 2011.
- 32:36It was about every other year, sugar, orange sugar aren't
- 32:39Peach. Another thing.
- 32:41He said that I liked and they talked about, he's like when he
- 32:46walked into Lane and he saw that, the, the last ACC
- 32:51Championship is 2010. He's like that's too damn long.
- 32:55Yeah. We need to get that back and
- 32:57that that says that he's he's ready to take that next step.
- 33:02He's not just there to get us to the coastal, he's there to hang
- 33:07banners, he's here to hang banners.
- 33:09And I think the other thing that kind of went about his
- 33:11philosophy is I don't think he's going anywhere.
- 33:14I think. I think the why it took so long
- 33:17and like he mentioned a day, only a handful of places.
- 33:20This is one of those places is like home to him.
- 33:24It's like home to him and something else.
- 33:27He said about welcoming the High School coaches and trained like
- 33:31almost like opened or just come on down.
- 33:35I think having him already established at Penn State and I
- 33:41said, this about Charles off and I, you know, and I'll say it
- 33:44about Brent. I don't think Brett's going to
- 33:46have too much of a problem walking in to Highland Springs
- 33:49or down to Oscar Smith or up. You know, like to Stafford in
- 33:53those counties and piss, they know Brent and now Brooks going
- 33:57to be selling something. In state where, hey, you're two
- 34:04and a half or three hours from Blacksburg.
- 34:08Let's get these kids here. We know when the top people in
- 34:12the state come to this University.
- 34:14We know the greatness that can be with can be attained we saw
- 34:18it. We saw when he says we can be
- 34:21talking to the coaches and he's the one that's got to sell that
- 34:25when the best players in the state come here.
- 34:28And we look in our other Regional Footprints and a couple
- 34:30other players, big things happen, big things happen,
- 34:35Brian. Do you feel like me and you
- 34:37could You got your drink, a drink too.
- 34:39I feel like we could go to any bar in Blacksburg.
- 34:43Sit down with this guy. Have a drink and have a an hour
- 34:49conversation without blinking. Yeah, any talked about it?
- 34:54He's all about building relationships, all about
- 34:57building relationships having to open door policy and that
- 35:02applies. He said to folks that come on
- 35:04campus everyone in merryman players and you know, talk about
- 35:11welcoming the High School coaches and getting back in the
- 35:15house. Schools like we haven't seen a
- 35:17blitz like that in a while and that's big for me because that's
- 35:21what we really. That's where the recruiting
- 35:24problem started was, was not establishing those relationships
- 35:29with the High School coaches and you know, we talked about it but
- 35:33with the trainers and some of those folks that run the
- 35:35Academy's down there, especially in the 757 were.
- 35:39That's a that's a big part of Developmental Football in the
- 35:43middle and high school level. Yeah, and it's becoming a
- 35:48culture thing down there, like, cultures, change down there, a
- 35:51little bit. Don't be afraid to.
- 35:53I think he's going to be a guy. It's probably going to adapt
- 35:56pretty quick to it. You know, he also talked about
- 36:02our history in terms of recruitment.
- 36:04It's another big piece. Essentially amazing, no hear
- 36:10what he said. Man, The Pride for Virginia kids
- 36:16how that used to be a big thing to go to your in-state school
- 36:20with your State's name on it in ball and he talked about
- 36:26bringing that back. And I think, you know, so many
- 36:29times when you have a Virginia kid at Virginia Tech do great
- 36:32things, it goes so much further, I mean, just a few weeks ago, a
- 36:36DB and Harris going in to get from the state Highland Springs
- 36:41in a 757. Kid going in, who were ungodly
- 36:44on the football field? And we saw firsthand.
- 36:48We saw both of them play firsthand.
- 36:50They were crazy good. So getting that back in and like
- 36:56again you can you feel like that's going to be a selling
- 36:58point like be prideful of the state you live in you come here
- 37:02do something. You're going to build it in.
- 37:04Your name is going to be on there.
- 37:06And you know, I think bringing a alumni back in we've already
- 37:10discussed it and having that discussion like you know one of
- 37:15the coolest things about going to In spring game was
- 37:20approaching former players and just talking to them.
- 37:25It like it was just so, so approachable mean, that's what
- 37:30we're met Darryl Tapp. And since then, we've got to
- 37:32interview in which is just even crazier than we met him.
- 37:35And then interviewed him in the course of the span they come.
- 37:39Here, you come back here. You're God the next level.
- 37:47And I think that, I think that's the big thing that we were
- 37:50missing in. The Fuente era that we had
- 37:52talked about with several people.
- 37:54We talked about it with Dwight, when he was on here with us, we
- 37:57talked about it with Christina, being able to look back but keep
- 38:03it moving forward, right? Appreciate the history,
- 38:06appreciate the culture but still do it your own way, do it?
- 38:11Do it, the way you have to do it in this modern era while still
- 38:14honoring. What got you here in the first
- 38:16place? And he's already seen it at a
- 38:18big place, right? Yeah.
- 38:19I mention that today about how you have to respect what
- 38:22happened then, like, as a Virginia Tech, Coat you must
- 38:26respect, what happened in the nineties.
- 38:27You must respect what happened since then in all those big
- 38:30games but you got to move forward, you've got to move
- 38:34forward, you gotta know how to change things but still respect
- 38:37it. Exactly.
- 38:39I think, seeing that process happen already, I think he's
- 38:42probably got an idea of what he wants to do.
- 38:45And you feel like if he can put some of those plans into place,
- 38:48it's going to be really big. Yeah.
- 38:51And and the other thing he talked about was, you know, once
- 38:54you get these players on Campus the development aspect, get them
- 38:57to be the best version of a football player.
- 38:59They can be while they're here and to a bigger point, he talked
- 39:04about being willing to have hard conversations and that was with
- 39:09players that was with coaches, that was with looking at himself
- 39:13and what he's doing. And I think that that level of
- 39:15self-reflection and reflecting on what needs to be done to get
- 39:20the most out of you and your players.
- 39:21And that's big that's going to be big for this program because
- 39:25I feel like That was one of the big things that was lacking with
- 39:29with the Fuente regime. Absolutely a huge thing lacking
- 39:32and I think as as I've joked, I just want to, I just want to
- 39:37coach who's going to be willing to sit down and tell another
- 39:40coach. We're going to have to let you
- 39:42go. You're not living up to
- 39:43expectations or before that have some hard-ass conversations
- 39:48where chain, you're trying to get them on the Right Temp
- 39:51track. Well yeah and and he said he's
- 39:53and that that's what we need. We need somebody that was
- 39:57willing to have. Those are conversations because
- 40:01that's part of being a leader part of me.
- 40:03And he can't just, you know, be the nice guy, I'll be the best
- 40:08friend be, you can't be that guy all the time.
- 40:12Did you hit him? And he showed him this press
- 40:16conference. He's like, I'll push them, but
- 40:18I'll at the same time, he's having a good time up there.
- 40:21He's laughing, he's joking. And that's something that Day is
- 40:26night and day from what we're used to in a press conference,
- 40:29dude. I think I mean, just so so
- 40:32natural. When he was asked answering
- 40:33questions from the media folks that were asking the questions
- 40:38up there. You said the right things but he
- 40:41tied it back to like the personal experiences he's had
- 40:44brought up some hokey history brought up history with with
- 40:47other folks that he's experienced over the years come
- 40:52calling out JC on Bourbon Street after the Sugar Bowl.
- 41:00That was like, maybe the hands-down, the best moment says
- 41:02he was sitting there and I can't remember, was it burned in
- 41:05Brooklyn? Or did ask him about that?
- 41:07I think so. Yeah.
- 41:09And he was like, well, we've stored it Owen to.
- 41:11And here comes Miami, man. The Flash, their Miami.
- 41:13It's the you and I know I'm paraphrasing some stuff.
- 41:16He said they have the Orange, please, cherish and shiny and
- 41:19that day. We play hard nosed defense and
- 41:22we ran the ball out them and we beat them.
- 41:25And we won 10 straight and we want to Sugar Bowl.
- 41:28And then right here not say anything else but where you felt
- 41:31the genuine level with JC in the room.
- 41:33And I tell you, when me and JC and West Worsham Worsham, just
- 41:37think of worship field and you wonder who that guy is, what out
- 41:41on Bourbon Street and you're like, basically he just told us,
- 41:44we were super excited. We won that game and we went out
- 41:46and we got hammered, it's relatable?
- 41:53Yeah, because that's what, that's what you.
- 41:54I can do that. Same situation you ever told us.
- 41:59Oh, he's going to Sugar Bowl and you guys went and you guys had a
- 42:01huge win. What would happen?
- 42:03Well, a I hope we have a mani or, you know, wife users come
- 42:08because we would go get drunk on Bourbon Street without even a
- 42:11doubt. Damn, right.
- 42:13You relatable like you feel like if If he had that went and if
- 42:18next year we're walking off Lane stating, we beat UVA, we have
- 42:22the Commonwealth cup. You feel like he would be the
- 42:25guy that at evening cracking open a bottle of bourbon and
- 42:29slamming it down and celebrating a win.
- 42:33Yep. Right.
- 42:34And he made another joke about about bud.
- 42:37When he was asked what type of Defense he was looking to do is,
- 42:40like, your defenses have been aggressive.
- 42:42He's like, wonder who I got that from It's just
- 42:59because we will be there whenever if they have
- 43:06restriction will whatever whatever and the big takeaway
- 43:11for me is that just everything? Seems so genuine like yes there
- 43:15wasn't. Manufactured it was just like,
- 43:19here's the answer. Here's how I feel about it.
- 43:21I'm going to kid with you. I will joke with you but I'm
- 43:24going to be serious when I need to professional when I need to.
- 43:28But I'm going to cut loose when I need to.
- 43:29And I think that's something that we're not used to.
- 43:31He's just, he seems comfortable in who he is at all times.
- 43:36It's not just those moments where he has to open up.
- 43:40It's like he is who he is on, are off, are in different.
- 43:45So I think that's something that's that's going to be big
- 43:48for us because that's kind of how Frank was, right?
- 43:50I mean that's exactly how Frank was exactly how Frank was tell
- 43:55you the other piece and I know you everybody seen the videos
- 43:59and him coming in, flying in getting off, the band that he
- 44:02was taking selfies with all the guys with numerous band members,
- 44:07having fun In later in the video, he's walking down that
- 44:11tunnel and talked about how coming down that tunnel, brought
- 44:16back a ton of emotion for him. And it gets worse.
- 44:20Well, then he sews them on the field and I think it's his mom.
- 44:23I don't think it's his wife and kids because I think they were
- 44:25with him, but I think it was his mom and he's just, he's got the
- 44:28he's got his phone up and he's kind of showing her around and
- 44:33like he gets it. I think he gets the culture of
- 44:36this place and not only just the football aspect, not only just a
- 44:41football aspect of it. I mean when you saw tell me what
- 44:46you, what your immediate thought was, you saw that post?
- 44:49To him this morning with the court, it was like the butt
- 44:51crack it. There was no light yet outside,
- 44:53but when you saw that, I mean, the first thing I mean we've
- 44:58said it before but as soon as I saw was like, yeah this dude
- 45:01gets it, he gets he gets what it means to be here he gets what's,
- 45:06what's important to people on this campus?
- 45:10And not just people that are associated with the football
- 45:13team, and I think that's that's a big part.
- 45:17I think of what we missed with, with the Flint areas that Fuente
- 45:21was very much compartmentalised into football.
- 45:25Ball. He wasn't necessarily Community
- 45:29member, he wasn't necessarily, you know Outreach to everyone on
- 45:34campus. There wasn't that type of role
- 45:38for him. It was like this is my job as a
- 45:40football coach. And yeah, I don't get that sense
- 45:45with pride. I think price seems to have a
- 45:47great understanding of what it means to be a part of the
- 45:51community. Not just part of the community
- 45:54as a football coach. Ouch.
- 45:57And what I think, that's what's been missing, because that's
- 45:59what Frank was. Frank was the embodiment of
- 46:05Virginia Tech. Not just I'm a football coach
- 46:08wasn't just the football coach. He was forgetting, you Tech.
- 46:12And I think you're right with Justin Fuente and never bought
- 46:17into being a part of the whole Community.
- 46:20Like, you didn't see Orion. You didn't even hear stories
- 46:23about. Going to some of the downtown
- 46:26restaurants. Me even, even going out like in
- 46:28Roanoke, somewhere, that's 35. 40 minutes up the road.
- 46:31But if you, if you're seen in Roanoke is Virginia, Tech head
- 46:34coach people know, and how do we know this our musical director?
- 46:38Jason long, what was it about six weeks ago?
- 46:41We messaged him and he's like, yeah, people are not happy up
- 46:44here with this coach, he is going to be gone.
- 46:48In again it's the different culture of this place.
- 46:54And you had Frank for so long and Frank is who he is and it
- 46:58was the genuine article and you know Frank to this day still
- 47:03walks has you know dog or Walter around campus?
- 47:08The freakin College Football Hall of Fame coaches walked
- 47:10around campus, that's crazy. And you know, we sit here and
- 47:16talk about the other thing about it, you know, We talked about it
- 47:20earlier but talking about Frank and budding in starting his
- 47:23journey to choke up peace. And I know I mentioned all the
- 47:26times When you get choked up like that, it truly means
- 47:31something to you and what it truly means something.
- 47:35I think this guy will fight tooth and nail, I think he will
- 47:39do everything he can to make this program where it was and
- 47:44that's all we can ask right now. And you know how about this?
- 47:49Guy went to high school in Lexington.
- 47:51Guy went to high school in Radford Dead head.
- 47:54Coaches of the football team and the basketball team now.
- 47:56And he met Mike young, Danny talked with the players, the way
- 47:59we don't have this mention tonight.
- 48:00What up fucking Victory last night because they did not play
- 48:04their best game. Marilyn's house was rocking.
- 48:07We were getting some really shitty under the basket foul
- 48:09called but they dip fucking Grand.
- 48:12They sacked up in the last five minutes and pull that shit out.
- 48:15Yes they did. Huge win.
- 48:20Shout out my other. That was that was a big win.
- 48:22My Mike young. Definitely there was a point
- 48:25where you saw. All right, I see that what we
- 48:28normally do isn't working, let me call a few sets here.
- 48:32Let's manufacture some points to get a lead and then let the
- 48:36defense close it out and that that's what he did.
- 48:39I know this is this is off topic even with the losses to Memphis
- 48:43and Xavier, you know, the offense not clicking, the
- 48:48defense is playing, its nuts off, defense is going to put us
- 48:51in every game this year. Every game in when the nights,
- 48:55when the offense clicks, which I think he'll eventually get to it
- 48:59in the diesel Works storms, got to play into form.
- 49:01He is not, he's not in Rhythm. He's got to figure out that he's
- 49:06playing against a hell of a lot better competition now.
- 49:09And I think Mike understood that in the second half and got him
- 49:12Distributing a little bit more, makes sense.
- 49:15Wow, we've got to destroy, he's got to distribute more, but he
- 49:17also has to win the shots. There, he can't be thinking
- 49:20about that last Miss know because Towards the end of that
- 49:23game. He passed up two threes that he
- 49:27should have took wide open. All right.
- 49:30Somehow we just win the basketball for the last couple.
- 49:32Sorry guys. Yeah, but yeah, media up with
- 49:35Mike young today, that was big baseball team.
- 49:40I didn't I never saw a lot of interaction ever between
- 49:46Wednesday and young. I mean, it was, it was very
- 49:48minuscule. If, if anything getting that
- 49:51relationship going right out the gates, going to Big.
- 49:53I mean, they're the two biggest faces of the athletic department
- 49:56outside of wit Babcock. So, look, you got, you got to
- 50:01put them front and center and seeing them reciprocate like,
- 50:05that is going to be big. And the other thing I know we
- 50:08talked about him tearing up with Frank and Bud.
- 50:11But the big thing for me is that when Wednesday was announced,
- 50:16Frank was stepping down Bud was staying on.
- 50:20They were obligated to vouch. Ouch, for the new guy coming in.
- 50:25There was absolutely no obligation to vouch for the next
- 50:30head coach here, but Bud and Frank are front and center.
- 50:34Yes, they are singing Brent prize, praises. so, the lot It
- 50:41says a hell of a lot. It says a hell of a lot to you
- 50:44seen. Tony Robi already shouting them
- 50:47out the baseball. Team is running laps making
- 50:51jokes about making sure they get all the seats prepared for the
- 50:54next fall. It's one of these things, it's a
- 50:57cultural higher, it's a cultural hybrid.
- 50:59It's a high of a damn good football coach.
- 51:01Because D, again, I said it the defense is yielded, whether it's
- 51:05Cody, see or full-time or the primary defensive coordinator at
- 51:08Vanderbilt, And Penn State or been top ten in the last eight
- 51:14years. The other eight like, I think 37
- 51:17to go back and look, I think 37 might be the lowest if you tell
- 51:22me we're going to feel the top 35 defense every year, and every
- 51:26other year, we're going to be in the top 10.
- 51:28Watch the fuck out. Sign me up.
- 51:31Sign me up to. All right.
- 51:33I don't think this is any shot. Obviously it was announced.
- 51:38Back last Tuesday, JC's be entertained.
- 51:40JC is going to be the associate head coach along with the
- 51:43defensive line coach Pearson, Prelude retain makes a lot of
- 51:47sense. It's another one of those
- 51:48connections, right? Pearson was here during his time
- 51:51here, and it's pretty awesome to hear that JC and Pearson are on
- 51:58the road. Trying to lock down this
- 52:00recruiting class. I don't think you could ask for
- 52:05two better guys to do that. I'm 100% with you the quote was
- 52:12JC. What are you doing?
- 52:13Today is like I'm about to hit the road.
- 52:15Recruiting. Yeah so he's not hanging around
- 52:19dicking around. He made his appearance this
- 52:22morning with the with the presser and then he got it back
- 52:27on the road, trying to get this class closed out.
- 52:30And that's big retaining JC associate head coach going to be
- 52:37coaching some of the defensive line, but obviously still
- 52:39carrying a big mantle for the recruiting to close out this
- 52:42year and, you know, Pearson Player Development for defense.
- 52:47He's still rolling with JC and getting this class finished out
- 52:51and hopefully we can retain most of this class.
- 52:54Keep it together. I know we talked a little
- 52:56earlier about the for that have already kind of kind of
- 52:59Confirmed there we think orgies in the boat as well, but keeping
- 53:05this class together, it's probably one of the best classes
- 53:08that Wednesday was able to put together during his tenure.
- 53:13It being able to maintain that and then build upon that next
- 53:16year. With all the resources that
- 53:17we'll have and what what seems to be a stat?
- 53:22At least a head coach that we do of in a staff that's going to be
- 53:25geared towards recruiting our footprint, the sky is going to
- 53:28be the limit with this thing man.
- 53:29So, I'm, I'm looking forward to it big.
- 53:31Shout-out to j.c. price and Pierson prioleau to close this
- 53:36thing out for us. But, you know, the big question
- 53:39card is that we were asking ourselves right up the gate
- 53:43right was was, why is Brent pry, the best fit?
- 53:48And for us, we kind of really identified four areas Culture
- 53:54identity vision and passion? And a lot of those go hand in
- 54:02hand, right? The actually probably all four
- 54:05but really you put that culture in the passion together.
- 54:08He understands the culture. He understands how passionate
- 54:11this culture is. You also see how passionate he
- 54:14is about it. I have a feeling we're going to
- 54:18run the ball even though we were in a lot during the 20-year, I
- 54:20think we're going to run the ball, he just as much and I
- 54:25think if we can hold on to that kid, on the South Side, Ramon
- 54:30Brown. I think he has that potential to
- 54:35be, you know, the next running back that we will talk about
- 54:40forever, no disrespect to Malachi Thomas, although I'd
- 54:45love get them in there. Let's get an Untouchables part
- 54:472. Yeah.
- 54:50You know, I'm all for it, you know.
- 54:55Yeah, but I mean the identity, I mean, it goes back, art art
- 54:58identity is always been defense first, Teams defense crippled
- 55:04you into submission and I think we're going to get back to that
- 55:08identity. Yeah.
- 55:09And I think that's big and he was talking about it even to the
- 55:13point where he's like, you know, we're bringing in a DC but he
- 55:17will call plays. Once I'm comfortable with them
- 55:19calling plays if that's after Spring ball.
- 55:21That's great. If it's after year one, that's
- 55:23great ability. I fear that our ability.
- 55:29Yeah he wants the he wants to make sure.
- 55:32That that that defense is humming that's first and
- 55:38foremost on his mind and and that's that's big for us because
- 55:43I think when we look at what Virginia Tech is it is a defense
- 55:47and special teams first program. I mean the offense will come and
- 55:52I think that offensive coordinator higher is going to
- 55:54be the most important higher that Brent Pride makes because
- 55:59that is not his area of expertise, he's going to have to
- 56:02Lean on that person from day one to be, making a lot of decisions
- 56:06that happen on that side of the ball.
- 56:09Absolutely. So that's going to be the most
- 56:12important higher. He's going to have to have
- 56:13somebody that he trusts. But also someone that can do
- 56:16things at a high level identify and recruit talent to the
- 56:20offensive side of the ball. That's going to be the most
- 56:23important higher that he makes. I think that entire staff is I
- 56:28think you eat. You got to have guys that can
- 56:30coach put in the right system that can work here on, but
- 56:34you've also got a again I think you're going to see footprint
- 56:37hires, I think you're going to see guys that know what's always
- 56:42been the DMV the 75, the Carolinas Georgia and Florida.
- 56:48I think as we start seeing that staff go and I know and the
- 56:52occasional handful of stars from Southside Virginia.
- 56:56Hey, you got one down there. Go get it because they love,
- 57:00stay Virginia Tech. Shout out all the ovens brother.
- 57:03Shoutout, David Wilson, shoutout.
- 57:07Oh Ron Martin cam cam over in Henry County but I think what
- 57:16what what And I don't know if we're going to do an episode
- 57:19next week, guys, because we've done a lot of episodes this
- 57:23year. Brian, click it up real quick
- 57:25just so that you can see how much we've done we're at.
- 57:28For this is 4444 episodes. We might need to take a break
- 57:32because we are going to have a banger in about two weeks here,
- 57:36but if we start seeing all the coaching hires come down.
- 57:39Yes, we will be back And that probably means we're going to be
- 57:43back in sometime next week. So what I want to see who it is.
- 57:48I think for for me because I've been around you freaking 20-plus
- 57:55years of my life. I want to know who the yellow
- 57:58line coach is. I'll definitely do the old line
- 58:01coach is in something we're probably going to do, guys write
- 58:06this in your calendar, probably January, right?
- 58:09Brian Once we find out who the o.c. in the DC is bronze, going
- 58:13to take the offensive side of the ball.
- 58:15Do some tape break down, our our buddy coach, Robbie Compton down
- 58:20in Wilkesboro North Carolina coaching high school ball down,
- 58:23their defensive coordinator. He's going to do some defensive
- 58:27tape breakdown. And what we're going to do is
- 58:29kind of say, this is what we're looking at doing next year for
- 58:33Robbie. It's easier.
- 58:34I tell Rob, he's probably, we talked to him the other day
- 58:36about, he'll probably is already pulling Penn State tape to get
- 58:39an Idea in general, what's going on?
- 58:41Because it's going to be burnt system.
- 58:44I can't wait to do that but culture identity his vision and
- 58:51his passion this is the job he wants for the next 15 years.
- 58:56And I hope because of being a fan, he can be as successful as
- 59:01Frank's 15-year run, because the way college football is shaping,
- 59:05if the next 15 years were like those 15 years, Brian.
- 59:10We're going to go to the playoffs a lot. because it's
- 59:13going to be a lot more teams, we have a lot more chances and I
- 59:16think fire All right, y'all before we get into even more,
- 59:23we've been talking a full hour. We are going to take a quick
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- 59:59right, guys, we we kind of tease this early and we're going to
- 1:00:02probably hit it real hard right now.
- 1:00:04Something will be doing any time we record between pretty much
- 1:00:07now and March, because maybe even the summertime.
- 1:00:11We're look at portal review. Obviously, you know, just with
- 1:00:14the higher Just Happening. We have no one in but we do have
- 1:00:19we have three guys. Technically in the portal.
- 1:00:21We already talked about Daryl Bailey, backup, quarterback,
- 1:00:24knocks. Kadem came in.
- 1:00:27Put his Name in the portal earlier this week.
- 1:00:29I don't think that's a shock to me.
- 1:00:30Are you Brian? But the big one happened today
- 1:00:36and we don't know if this is just him being in the portal,
- 1:00:41being available to talk to other people or what.
- 1:00:44But unfortunately, Tavian Robinson did put his name in the
- 1:00:47world de bruyne. Yeah, that's a big one because I
- 1:00:51mean, obviously that's going to be from a overall talent and
- 1:00:55experience perspective that was going to be the top receiver
- 1:00:59coming back for us in 22 and Parker.
- 1:01:04Yeah, so I mean that's big but you know, as always, you know,
- 1:01:10players got to do what's best for them.
- 1:01:12And I can understand looking at our current quarterback
- 1:01:15situation and also not knowing what the offensive coaching
- 1:01:20situation is going to look like, at least for another couple
- 1:01:22weeks. I understand him making this
- 1:01:24business decision. And, you know, as always with,
- 1:01:28with player choice. I mean, we wish him the best of
- 1:01:30luck. This is definitely a once a
- 1:01:32hokey. Always a hokie situation,
- 1:01:35anytime he wants to, you know, have a beer, if I see him, I'm
- 1:01:39buying him a beer because he did some damn good things.
- 1:01:41Here is a hokie. Hopefully there's a scenario
- 1:01:46where Things fall into place and he wants to come back to
- 1:01:50Blacksburg but if that's not the case we wish him well in his
- 1:01:53next stop and hopefully he goes there and tears it up.
- 1:01:57Absolutely. Um it's just it's going to
- 1:02:00happen. It's going to happen more.
- 1:02:03Over the next few weeks, you're also going to have guys with
- 1:02:06some eligibility. Not come back and it's just the
- 1:02:10it's just what it is right now. Especially okay covid to, I
- 1:02:13mean, right now we had a roster full of extra Year guys, that
- 1:02:18are not going to exercise that extra year.
- 1:02:20I mean trade Turner's, one of them.
- 1:02:22We had changa, Hodge said he's declaring for the for the draft
- 1:02:28as well. You're probably going to see a
- 1:02:32couple more guys. Is that do this?
- 1:02:33You're probably going to see a handful of guys transfer that
- 1:02:37mean it's to be expected right now.
- 1:02:39We're looking to probably clear. I'd say you're at least other
- 1:02:46than the ones we already know. I'd say your least looking at
- 1:02:48another 55-27 that that are going to clear out.
- 1:02:53Oh yeah. The other piece that I don't
- 1:02:55know if you remember and we're going to kind of back to the
- 1:02:57press or but I got to talk about this.
- 1:03:02Coach pry, basically said he is going to have a specific unit in
- 1:03:07his recruiting staff. That is Portal only.
- 1:03:11And I think, believe it or not, I think we've already kind of
- 1:03:14got a jump on. That the way we've worked the
- 1:03:15portal last few years, but it's the way the school, it's the way
- 1:03:20it's going, and it's going to be crucial.
- 1:03:24I don't know if he's listening tonight, sometimes it doesn't
- 1:03:27mean that. I got a cousin in South
- 1:03:28Carolina, South Carolina fan. The portal is going to be big
- 1:03:32for schools, like Virginia Tech in South Carolina because when
- 1:03:36we need When we need a really good run, run guard.
- 1:03:43And there's this kid coming out of Michigan.
- 1:03:45Can't Get Me Petey. He can run block his ass off.
- 1:03:48We get him. Go get him.
- 1:03:50Well he has some flaws and password.
- 1:03:52I don't give a shit, I'll give a shit.
- 1:03:54He's a really good run. Blocker, that's our identity.
- 1:03:57I mean, look at what we pulled with Johnny, Jordan, this in
- 1:04:00this cycle, I mean, Johnny Kaleo.
- 1:04:03I mean, yeah, I mean if that that's only really having one
- 1:04:08part-time person that was focusing on that in Adam.
- 1:04:12Lichtenberg you think if we actually have two or three
- 1:04:17folks, the team of people that are just focused on evaluating
- 1:04:22and recruiting Talent from the portal recruiting and That's a
- 1:04:27very important year one because we probably need two
- 1:04:30quarterbacks. A wide receiver.
- 1:04:32At least one offensive lineman and at least one defensive end
- 1:04:36and one defensive tackle. So that's the Starting Gate and
- 1:04:40that's if that's not knowing if there's any any other attrition
- 1:04:43at any other positions that were thin at and you know that we're
- 1:04:46talking about at least leaving five players out the gate that
- 1:04:50we need to give the portal if you want to know the thing.
- 1:04:52Brian. There are players in Collegiate
- 1:04:55football. Right now sitting on the bench,
- 1:04:58not getting an opportunity at certain programs that it's going
- 1:05:03to be back channel, right? Yep.
- 1:05:06There's going to be people that see it on tape and they're going
- 1:05:08to call someone like, listen, you need to talk to this kid
- 1:05:12about potentially going in the world, like it.
- 1:05:17I don't care. If you call a dirty, it's going
- 1:05:18to become part of the game. Like, you need to get him in the
- 1:05:22portal. Why?
- 1:05:22Because if he gets into Me, we can talk to him, we can show my
- 1:05:25vision. We do that another way.
- 1:05:27It's going to screw us up, but he's got to get to the portal.
- 1:05:30So again I really believe me. I think there's a possibility
- 1:05:36that we there are some good quarterbacks out there that will
- 1:05:39step away because say what you will do.
- 1:05:42You want Adrian Martinez, know where you're starting lost his
- 1:05:49job this year, I just had to clear it out there.
- 1:05:53Popped out today. I was like, I gotta I gotta see
- 1:05:55if Spencer Rattler. Yes, okay, I think I'm fine with
- 1:06:03that. I mean, I think that's a, that's
- 1:06:06a worth the risk Type move there.
- 1:06:08Yeah. But you know, in my mind.
- 1:06:10Yeah. There's a there's a question
- 1:06:16whether we Kick the tires on Eugene, Asante, I know he hasn't
- 1:06:21lived up to expectations but he is a Nova kid.
- 1:06:27He's a player that has flashed at times.
- 1:06:34It is our staff. Someone that thinks he can get
- 1:06:36more out of of him in our type of system, than they're getting
- 1:06:40out of him at UNC. I mean, he's had some of the
- 1:06:44same type of issues that Tisdale had, and in terms of play, He's
- 1:06:48probably a bigger faster version of Alan Tisdale.
- 1:06:52What is he? He is a redshirt sophomore,
- 1:06:57technically, right? He has two years left County
- 1:07:00including the fact. You got the free covid here.
- 1:07:02I would be willing to take a risk on him.
- 1:07:06I'll be willing to take a risk on him, a because of who are
- 1:07:10head coaches now. it's essentially a guy who's, you
- 1:07:17know, Coached a bunch of damn good linebacker.
- 1:07:20So if it's one of those things where if you see him coming
- 1:07:22here, it's definitely a head coach move.
- 1:07:28Right? And you know, with Tisdale right
- 1:07:31now, I haven't is do the same. It also depends on what we're
- 1:07:36going to run on defense, right? Are we going to go into any true
- 1:07:40for three looks because Penn State does have some truth from
- 1:07:42true for three looks where they have a true weakside linebacker?
- 1:07:46Yeah they stay still you. Use it on a lot of instances.
- 1:07:51They kind of, you know, it's kind of a for to look it's still
- 1:07:54that but they use their whip as as a more traditional, kind of
- 1:07:59weeks out outside, whereas, you know, our whip is pretty much
- 1:08:04became a nickel that can slide in the Box.
- 1:08:07Can you just say they use their whip-like bug used his whip up
- 1:08:10until about seven years ago? Like Cody like like Tweety Where
- 1:08:18it was. You have to be athletic.
- 1:08:20It's almost more of like you're playing a third safety on the
- 1:08:22field, not more of a third, it's more of a safety line backer
- 1:08:26versus of safety corner. So the portals will be crazy.
- 1:08:33You know we've already had some portal conversation.
- 1:08:40All right everybody. We've already talked about him
- 1:08:42one time tonight. Coach.
- 1:08:43Robert Compton has officially joined in here.
- 1:08:46Must have found a good tree down there in Wilkesboro to it's a
- 1:08:50good signal. The Wi-Fi is no longer spotty.
- 1:08:54No, I thought I was no longer spotty.
- 1:08:56He found he found some rabbit ears.
- 1:08:57He's like standing on his head. He's doing something out there
- 1:09:00to get the service going. I'm just thanks for joining
- 1:09:03buddy. Well have an actual round table
- 1:09:18with exact right there. Look, I got two more bowls to
- 1:09:23somewhere in the house. All right, let's let's jump off
- 1:09:26portal and in Brian we've all watched you watch Game of
- 1:09:31Thrones correct. Oh yeah, huge Game of Thrones
- 1:09:35from the beginning to the end. The end sucked.
- 1:09:38Yes. They should have read it, but I
- 1:09:40digress. How about Game of headsets in
- 1:09:43the fucking craziness That's happened and the craziness that
- 1:09:48broke. While I was eating dinner
- 1:09:51tonight, having some delicious stuffed peppers.
- 1:09:54By the way, Bronco Mendenhall announces that.
- 1:09:57After the bowl game, he will leave.
- 1:10:00You texted me and wear them, like, you're like, holy shit.
- 1:10:05What? Yeah, this is full-on
- 1:10:10Littlefinger. Chaos is not a pit chaos is a
- 1:10:12ladder and thankfully we came out of the right side of that.
- 1:10:17Well UVA. Meanwhile is holding their dicks
- 1:10:20a little bit because I don't think anyone saw this coming.
- 1:10:25They were not prepared for this. They are in full scramble mode.
- 1:10:31They could end up working out. Something that works out for
- 1:10:34them, but they definitely put themselves behind the eight ball
- 1:10:38and Bronco has put them there in a lot of ways because this isn't
- 1:10:45we're planning on firing you on X date.
- 1:10:47But we're already having back-channel discussions with
- 1:10:50who the next guy is this is oh holy shit.
- 1:10:53This guy decided you know, five days after the last game of the
- 1:10:57regular season that he's done and we've done. 10 prep work on
- 1:11:03how we're going to handle this. They're so fucked.
- 1:11:06It's, and if they could look into getting the right, that's
- 1:11:10right higher. They might be able to lure.
- 1:11:11Someone like Dan Mullen in, they might take a risk and name.
- 1:11:16Someone like Anthony Poindexter as a head coach out of the gate.
- 1:11:22I think that's their own voice. I mean, well, a because of what
- 1:11:25happened a few years ago and they kind of screwed him over,
- 1:11:28but be, it's, it's, it's one of those.
- 1:11:31It's like, it is one of your best football players
- 1:11:35All-American, drafted played in the league, came back to coach.
- 1:11:37You screwed him over on the coaching situation.
- 1:11:40He's a Penn State right now. He's praying in the rumors are,
- 1:11:44we're fighting for him to Become dc.
- 1:11:46Yes, people are putting, I'm sure Penn State is trying to
- 1:11:49keep him there to be to take over for prize DC and then you
- 1:11:53got UVA. I don't think he's going to come
- 1:11:55to UVA to be DC. Know he, if he, if he's got a
- 1:11:59job at Penn State head coach, And yes, also it unless they're
- 1:12:04willing to roll the dice and say I because I mean all he has
- 1:12:07right now is some Cody see experience.
- 1:12:10So he hasn't even been a full-time coordinator at this
- 1:12:15point. Can I Buzz?
- 1:12:18It's a culture higher, yeah, big-time culture and culture
- 1:12:22higher and they would be idiots not to because the one of the
- 1:12:26best runs you VA had was when that man was coaching or was
- 1:12:30what was playing for you. One of the best runs.
- 1:12:34And to be honest, we talked about this with the white back
- 1:12:37last winter Grime. The best, the Rivalry had ever
- 1:12:42been, when guys like him Jeff, you know, from Lynchburg guys,
- 1:12:46like the white Jake Grove, when all the in-state Talent was in
- 1:12:50both Pro Tech was a top-10 program.
- 1:12:53Virginia was a top 20 program and that's Saturday meant
- 1:12:56something every year. It makes sense something and
- 1:13:01they've been playing against each other whether It was in
- 1:13:04high school, all-star games, like all that shit used to go on
- 1:13:09back then and used to see some legit rivalries.
- 1:13:12Even from folks that didn't play each other on their regular
- 1:13:15season schedule. So I'll be there was a lot of
- 1:13:18that type of stuff going on and it carried over into the UVA,
- 1:13:22Virginia Tech rivalry. And Poindexter was kind of one
- 1:13:26of the kind of the last big big-time players in that.
- 1:13:33Well, share along with like Thomas Jones and guys like that
- 1:13:39getting a guy back in like that would be big for them from a
- 1:13:41cultural perspective and from a recruiting perspective because
- 1:13:45he's a guy that could definitely recruit the state and and he can
- 1:13:50make a case, you know, I did it here, it can be done here.
- 1:13:54So that would be big for them. I'm hoping it doesn't happen.
- 1:13:58Just for I want him on our staff. listen, if you want to
- 1:14:05talk about the biggest Fu, if he literally, if they, if they do
- 1:14:11not offer him and he comes here as the DC, I don't think I'll
- 1:14:16ever go back there. I mean, for real, like, right
- 1:14:19now, if they don't at least offer him, DC, then there's no,
- 1:14:23they're fucking awesome. The head coaching job.
- 1:14:27You have to the little black dress.
- 1:14:30All right. So the other robberies got
- 1:14:33Robbie's. Got a suggestion.
- 1:14:34He thinks they should bring back grow.
- 1:14:37Tall like 80 now though, how old's Al groh.
- 1:14:42Well, it has Al groh Robbie CR2 old.
- 1:14:44He's old too old. All right, let's talk about
- 1:14:48this. So the Lincoln Riley stuff we
- 1:14:50talked about Sunday, which was pretty wild.
- 1:14:53This is even crazier. Your team is 11 and one, your
- 1:14:58team is on the verge of the playoff, is just one or two
- 1:15:01things happen. You're out recruiting your staff
- 1:15:07is out recruiting and all of a sudden, Brian Kelly to LSU.
- 1:15:13The the word is that one of the guys had just left a fucking
- 1:15:19recruiting visit, where they were pitching Notre Dame and
- 1:15:23Brian Kelly's Notre Dame and they pull out their phone and
- 1:15:27they're like, oh shit. Yeah, I mean this is classic
- 1:15:34Brian Kelly, right? Did he just like leave Central
- 1:15:38Michigan to go to Cincinnati like out of nowhere?
- 1:15:41Like literally drop the bags and like East, he's definitely.
- 1:15:45Yeah, I mean and I'm obviously there's, there's no like, well,
- 1:15:49we need X number of days that I get that but like The situation
- 1:15:54that Brian Kelly is walking out of, I mean, it's even different
- 1:15:57than what Lincoln Riley did it Oklahoma.
- 1:16:01I mean we thought that was abrupt.
- 1:16:02This is like next-level, it is. I mean I mean like I guess the
- 1:16:10only been the only positive is that you know Brian Kelly wasn't
- 1:16:13actively recruiting players to potentially align up to go to
- 1:16:18his next school like I know that I know that was inadvertent but
- 1:16:23bullshit it looks shady as hell, doesn't it?
- 1:16:26It looks shady as hell. We're going to recruit
- 1:16:28California. Real heavy this year.
- 1:16:31Real real heavy, like he played the long game at USC like As
- 1:16:38soon as clay loses a game, we are going to fire him so be
- 1:16:41ready. I don't know how this is gonna
- 1:16:46work, like don't get me wrong, it's working nicely for Notre
- 1:16:51Dame right now. Oh, yeah.
- 1:16:53Well, it's They're getting sympathy, right?
- 1:16:58Like they're getting sympathy. And they're pretty much
- 1:17:00maintaining all of their staff. This is a Brian.
- 1:17:04Kelly is leaving for LSU and I can't.
- 1:17:06Can you think of a worse fit, from a cultural perspective?
- 1:17:11The Brian Kelly at LSU. Apparently, there's a video him
- 1:17:14out there. The basketball game.
- 1:17:15He's developed a Southern accent in like two days.
- 1:17:19Pretty fucking impress. Come on.
- 1:17:21If he starts talking like coach. Oh, you know, what's up?
- 1:17:24Oh my God, the fixes. In.
- 1:17:26It doesn't seem like there's he can coach football and I mean he
- 1:17:32can he can talk his way out of a paper bag apparently.
- 1:17:35So I mean I mean you know, he's a recruiter in a Salesman like
- 1:17:39that but you know the slimeball tactics can only go so far and I
- 1:17:45mean it's true. When you start, he's not
- 1:17:51bringing his staff with him. So he's going to have to build
- 1:17:54either from the base of folks that have coached and recruited
- 1:17:59in that area. Or he's going to have to plumb
- 1:18:02some new pipelines, right? Well, here's the deal, though.
- 1:18:05It's LSU, there's going to be somebody.
- 1:18:08There should be good coaches at schools all across the country
- 1:18:11that if he goes and says, do you want to coach here?
- 1:18:13They're going to be like. Yeah, because it, oh, yeah, me
- 1:18:16and Definitely getting a situation where it's going to be
- 1:18:20hard to say, no, because a, it's LSU and be, they're going to pay
- 1:18:25top dollar for everybody. To be a first all assistant
- 1:18:30coach and said everybody's making over 750,000 and he's
- 1:18:34making like nine and a half million a year over 10 year
- 1:18:36deal. They also gave a 10-year deal.
- 1:18:38Do you hear that ten years? Yeah 60 good Lord but um I don't
- 1:18:45know how that's going to work. It's going to be so interesting
- 1:18:48to see but the guy has say what you will that guys?
- 1:18:51Fucking killed it everywhere. I mean literally Michigan.
- 1:18:57All You're welcome. Hey, he'll kill you.
- 1:19:09Oklahoma is to me is not in a war situation.
- 1:19:12Is you vehicles are Oklahoma? But you know, everybody thought
- 1:19:17this week will the younger students brother will come.
- 1:19:19Well, no, Mark says, I'm good at Kentucky.
- 1:19:22They like me went in between seven and nine games a year.
- 1:19:26I'm going to go ahead and get a 7 year extension and basically
- 1:19:29I'm coaching here until I'm retired, he's making good money
- 1:19:33to with only medium expectations and he's doing a good job of
- 1:19:39hitting or exceeding. Those expectations every year
- 1:19:42right now and if he can maintain what he's doing on the
- 1:19:47recruiting Trail and maintain the level of plays getting from
- 1:19:50his players, he's gonna ride this into the sunset and I don't
- 1:19:53blame him. I don't blame them either.
- 1:19:56I mean why do you want? He's old enough where he doesn't
- 1:20:01need a Prestige hiring his resume?
- 1:20:03No, he well, you know, he has done, he had national title
- 1:20:06rings from some assistant-coaching job.
- 1:20:08Yeah. And again, for us for us our age
- 1:20:13group, He's doing what a Kentucky, they're winning games,
- 1:20:18they're going to bowls every year like they're fighting with
- 1:20:21their beating Florida. They're competing with Georgia,
- 1:20:25no way. So the last time their program
- 1:20:28was even decent, Jerry Lorenzen was throwing for him to have to
- 1:20:32Lefty God, Rest his soul, there are rumors out.
- 1:20:35Now what? This is going to flip back to
- 1:20:37Notre Dame, I don't know. This is us putting this to get
- 1:20:40this as this is might be one of the longest run down Chiefs
- 1:20:44we've ever had. Literally like on a non-game
- 1:20:48week episode, it looks like Notre.
- 1:20:51Dame is going to hire Marcus Freeman.
- 1:20:52Tommy Reese is going to stay in house.
- 1:20:54A lot of the other coaches are staying in house.
- 1:20:57Hey Brian. Kelly said it last year, he's a
- 1:20:59future coach of Notre Dame. Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:21:03Maybe his foot was already out the door to like linking Riley.
- 1:21:14If you ever go on YouTube and find some of his, you know,
- 1:21:18interviews, I think that locks it up and now let's have two
- 1:21:24left. Yes, definitely our hero Robbie.
- 1:21:27Compton also better known as JC prices down.
- 1:21:31Double ganger true but I think they're fine.
- 1:21:37I think Notre Dame is going to be fine.
- 1:21:38Notre Dame might be better than what they were with hundred
- 1:21:43killing for good on your Kelly. Amy Freeman's a great hire.
- 1:21:46I mean, he was on our short list and we talked about candidates
- 1:21:49that we would be good with we were looking at all right.
- 1:21:53Who's the coordinator that you would be most comfortable with?
- 1:21:56That doesn't have any Virginia Tech ties Freeman Freeman top of
- 1:22:01the list. In the fact that he's able to
- 1:22:05stay at Notre Dame that that helps them both this year to
- 1:22:11potentially keep their college football.
- 1:22:12Playoff, hopes alive. If a couple things happen going
- 1:22:16to this weekend and it sets them up, good going into next year
- 1:22:21because there's a whole lot of continuity.
- 1:22:22Not only in recruiting, but also the systems that they're running
- 1:22:27on offense and defense. It's true and I think I think
- 1:22:34there's a better place he's a 34-year there's only one job he
- 1:22:36leave for one and the way Ron day is going in the age of Ryan
- 1:22:41day and let's Rendezvous decides to go to the NFL.
- 1:22:43He's not going to Ohio state anytime in the next 10 years.
- 1:22:46Alright, we've kind of already hit a couple times Lincoln
- 1:22:49Riley, what the hell is Oklahoma doing?
- 1:22:51I mean, we're like, on day four and they still don't have a head
- 1:22:54coach where, I think a lot of us expected after Sunday, it'll be
- 1:22:58Matt Campbell They'll go hard? Like, are they, are they waiting
- 1:23:03for like the mean, Brent venables, is should be the
- 1:23:06candidate. He was the o.c.
- 1:23:08They're understood from, they had a shit ton of success.
- 1:23:11Why aren't you calling him and saying 9 million?
- 1:23:14Eight years? Thank you.
- 1:23:16Ever the hell you want to bring? Yeah, I think that's what
- 1:23:25they're looking at. You know, the question is going
- 1:23:28to be, do we see any movement after this weekend?
- 1:23:33I don't know if they're waiting on somebody else that is playing
- 1:23:36in a game this week. You know, we had a guy like Dan
- 1:23:43landing on our on our board. Is that somebody they're looking
- 1:23:47at I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:23:52Venable seems like the, the best fit out the gate.
- 1:23:58Matt Campbell seems like the best upside.
- 1:24:01Like the higher-ups? I'd pick.
- 1:24:05I don't know. Oklahoma just seems like, I
- 1:24:08think they'll get somebody good because they are in.
- 1:24:11They are Oklahoma their top 15 top 10 program of all time but
- 1:24:16the issue now becomes it's not so much.
- 1:24:18Much this year next, right? Or next year in the year, after
- 1:24:21its dude, y'all are going to the SEC.
- 1:24:24You're going to be like the seventh program there.
- 1:24:27I still believe that's why Lincoln loved like Lincoln's.
- 1:24:30Like why do I want to? Why do I want to be halfway down
- 1:24:33the peg when I can be a top dog? Yep.
- 1:24:37And that that that's a program that decided that the money was
- 1:24:41more important than the clout. But eventually the money can't
- 1:24:47solve all issues. Not when everybody's getting the
- 1:24:49same amount of money you are. Yeah, that's that's the thing.
- 1:24:53What he said that they decided that the money that the program
- 1:24:56is bringing in was more important in the clout.
- 1:24:59And I think it's going to cause some long-term because at best
- 1:25:01they're going to be kind of the fourth or fifth team in that
- 1:25:05conference year to year. They could be lower, but Lord, I
- 1:25:09think, I think they'll be lower some years, but I think they'll
- 1:25:11be higher some years, but I think on the only, Average,
- 1:25:15they're going to be like 45 in that country's.
- 1:25:17You're saying 45, you ready? They can be better than Georgia.
- 1:25:22Every year. No.
- 1:25:26Bama. No.
- 1:25:28What about am? I mean?
- 1:25:32I think they're right there with A&M LSU.
- 1:25:36Depends on what Brian Kelly. Does.
- 1:25:39Alright Florida. They be a beat this year's LSU
- 1:25:45Florida. It depends on Legend Napier
- 1:25:51does. Let's talk about the last 20
- 1:25:54years in Oklahoma. I mean Oklahoma's played
- 1:25:58Oklahoma's played for more national titles than all but two
- 1:26:02of the teams were talking about here.
- 1:26:05True. I just think the issue is
- 1:26:07they're going to be seventh or eighth because remember, Texas
- 1:26:11is coming with them. I think they have.
- 1:26:13I think they both have screwed themselves and it's going to be
- 1:26:16funny in 10 years. Our weirdest part, is that Texas
- 1:26:19did need more money like that. Your entire life, huh?
- 1:26:38Now we understand. All right Brian.
- 1:26:41This is the last piece of news before we get into pickles on
- 1:26:46the ACC Network after football season.
- 1:26:51Is coming to Comcast. I don't have time cast, I don't
- 1:26:55care. I've had the ACC Network since
- 1:26:56its Inception I watch it through Phi 0, so I don't really care
- 1:27:01either. But everybody's big, it's big
- 1:27:06for our market and it's been his big for Virginia Tech because
- 1:27:10that's going to be more media Revenue that's coming in
- 1:27:14directly through the network because you in more markets, so
- 1:27:17that's going to be more Revenue. So that's a good thing.
- 1:27:21And, you know, the big thing is that the, the footprint that not
- 1:27:26only we recruit but that You know, most of the fans are
- 1:27:30living in is in that that Comcast footprint.
- 1:27:34So unless you have, you know, you're in a metro area, you've
- 1:27:39got FiOS. If you've got, you know, or you
- 1:27:42stream of the satellites, I mean there's some options there but
- 1:27:47they're streaming but people that are still on, you know,
- 1:27:52most small towns most communities throughout these
- 1:27:54Regions. They're locked into one provider
- 1:27:57and satellite more unlikely. They've got Comcast and they
- 1:28:01have not had access here so this is big for them and it's big
- 1:28:07long term in terms of media dollars for Virginia Tech and
- 1:28:11the ACC as a whole. Abso-freakin'-lutely, it's also
- 1:28:16big to certain family members. You know who have been take?
- 1:28:21Can I get your hoop stuff and get your filing stuff?
- 1:28:24Why I need to, I need to sign into the ESPN app so I can watch
- 1:28:26the game. Okay?
- 1:28:28So it's good again. It's good for all the various
- 1:28:32reasons, it just hilarious. It literally took the week after
- 1:28:35football in sport to happen and it's still in the coming week.
- 1:28:39So this is probably a start of the New Year type deal if I had
- 1:28:43to guess. Exactly what again for ACC
- 1:28:46country basketball is huge. So maybe came at the right time
- 1:28:51to get people to watch the network of ton.
- 1:28:54Once the meat of the ACC regular season kicks in, at the start of
- 1:28:58the New Year, you'll be able to watch it on Xfinity.
- 1:29:01Exactly. I also scored a football game.
- 1:29:05You got it up there tonight? I don't man me either.
- 1:29:10I'm just interested. I don't think I have anybody
- 1:29:11playing the night and fantasy but I don't think I'm playing
- 1:29:17anybody. I was officially eliminated from
- 1:29:23all you got. Yeah because Mike one last week
- 1:29:27so I mathematically couldn't jump him even if I won this
- 1:29:30week, Well, he's got me on. He's got me on points in
- 1:29:35head-to-head. Well, if you jumped above 75
- 1:29:40points, you'd be okay, yeah, I'm not bidding on Ron.
- 1:29:46Listen, you should be commended for how you manage this fantasy
- 1:29:50football year. You have a shit ton, go wrong at
- 1:29:53the beginning of the season, to be even considered in the
- 1:29:55playoffs. At it at the last few weeks is
- 1:29:58impressive. I was dead last and week for
- 1:30:02dead last two, knocking on playoffs door in week, 11 and
- 1:30:0612. So, kudos to you.
- 1:30:07You all right Ron. Let's flip it over to Saturday.
- 1:30:11Pick homes. We will be picking all the bowl
- 1:30:14games as well. But we're going to start here.
- 1:30:17Brian 6655. And to I'm 71 47 and to and
- 1:30:25we're going to pick all the conference Championship game.
- 1:30:26We got 10 of them will start Friday night, Brian Conference.
- 1:30:30USA championship UTSA versus Western Kentucky UTSA was
- 1:30:36undefeated until just a couple weeks ago watching Kentucky's
- 1:30:39lane two and a half Washington. Tucky blew the doors off of
- 1:30:43Marshall last weekend and I beloved Charles Huff but I don't
- 1:30:50know. I know there are some, there's
- 1:30:52some swirling, some people have said, let's take a look at
- 1:30:55Western Kentucky. Oh, see, I think based on what
- 1:30:58bring problems to do now. Yeah, he's an Airaid type guy.
- 1:31:03I don't see print going doing that, but I also don't see
- 1:31:06Western Kentucky beating UTSA. I think UTSA wins this game
- 1:31:10outright. Give me the points and I'll take
- 1:31:14UTSA. Yeah, I'm going the same way
- 1:31:17with you here. I think Western Kentucky had a
- 1:31:19really good game against Marshall.
- 1:31:21Think was just a bad matchup overall.
- 1:31:23I think they're a good football team, but I think UTSA is going
- 1:31:28to pull this one out outright win.
- 1:31:31Probably probably, even maybe a touchdown win for them.
- 1:31:33So I'll go the same route, there bud.
- 1:31:37And if you want it in the records UTSA is 11.
- 1:31:40And 1 Western Kentucky is Aiden for and you know, Western
- 1:31:47Kentucky loss to UTSA by six earlier this season.
- 1:31:51That game was at Western Kentucky.
- 1:31:53So, this one of those highlights there.
- 1:31:56All right. The Pac-12 Championship is
- 1:31:59Friday night, Brian Oregon versus Utah.
- 1:32:01In Las Vegas. I think that's the smartest
- 1:32:04thing that the big, the Pac-12 could do is put that game in
- 1:32:07Vegas every year, regardless and big time and try to work to get
- 1:32:13that thing move to a Saturday night or at least a Saturday
- 1:32:17afternoon. Because me sitting here like,
- 1:32:20hey, let's go to Vegas and watch the Pac-12 Championship Games.
- 1:32:22Why we're going to Vegas but how about this one Ron?
- 1:32:26Game was just a couple weeks ago.
- 1:32:28Utah, beat Oregon Utah. The three-point favorite.
- 1:32:31What do you say on this one? I think the Revenge factor and
- 1:32:36neutral site, is the difference. Give me Oregon.
- 1:32:39I'm with you, the neutral sites, the biggest difference.
- 1:32:42They're dry Cycles is a tough place to play, and the middle of
- 1:32:47nowhere. Utah in this is what organ does,
- 1:32:50right? They lose a game two weeks
- 1:32:52before the championship game while they're in the playoffs.
- 1:32:56We get kicked out of the playoffs that they come wreck
- 1:32:59shop on whoever they play and go to the Rose Bowl.
- 1:33:02Yeah, we're getting. Give me the three organ Tale As
- 1:33:04Old As Time. Morgan wins by 10 3828.
- 1:33:09All right, the MAC Championship for one of our action, you know,
- 1:33:15the saddest person is on a week night without my action.
- 1:33:20Is it John Earl tomorrow Jenner? Did he is Northern Illinois,
- 1:33:27Kent State. I know very little about the
- 1:33:30Mac. This year is one convert to have
- 1:33:32not kept up with. So, while doing my research this
- 1:33:36week, Kent State has a good offense.
- 1:33:40One of the best in the country. Northern Illinois is I know beat
- 1:33:44Georgia Tech but after what we saw from Georgia Tech the last,
- 1:33:47basically rest of the year, they're hot.
- 1:33:50Trash. I'm gonna take Kim State.
- 1:33:51I think the offense wins this one out.
- 1:33:55Lay the three points, give me Kent State, not so fast.
- 1:34:00My friend. I'm gonna go Northern Illinois
- 1:34:02here and this is purely on. I know they play really good
- 1:34:08football almost every year for a Mac team that that that's my
- 1:34:14rationale here. I haven't done any deep Dives on
- 1:34:18on these two teams. But I feel like they going to
- 1:34:22pull it out and I think it's gonna be an hour a win for them.
- 1:34:27All right, it's a Revenge game. Will annoys beat Kent State by
- 1:34:31five early as year Revenge, Kent State.
- 1:34:34All right, buddy. Now we're getting into some of
- 1:34:38the bigger games and this one is huge, big 12 Championship noon,
- 1:34:44kick. On Saturday Baylor.
- 1:34:47Oklahoma State rematch earlier this year, Oklahoma State beat
- 1:34:51Baylor and a pretty good lower score and contest for Big 12.
- 1:34:55Oklahoma State laying five and a half points to Baylor.
- 1:35:00What do you say on this one? Brian.
- 1:35:04I really like the way Oklahoma State's been playing.
- 1:35:09The only thing that gives me pause here is that About once or
- 1:35:15twice a year you get those Gundy games where for some reason they
- 1:35:18don't get it done against good competition.
- 1:35:21But I think this is going to be the year.
- 1:35:23They kind of shake that off a little bit so I'm going to take
- 1:35:26okey state Lay the points. All right, Ron, take Sookie
- 1:35:32laying the points. I'm going to go off of you.
- 1:35:37I don't think Baylor's going to win this game.
- 1:35:39This game was a ten-point game the first time down in
- 1:35:42Stillwater. 24:14 back in, I think it was September was early
- 1:35:48when I believe early October actually.
- 1:35:52I remember watching part of it. Went down to a neighbor's house
- 1:35:55for a while. I think okey State wins.
- 1:35:58But I don't think it's as, I think it's a three-point game.
- 1:36:02I think being at a neutral site is going to help out Baylor, but
- 1:36:06I still think Gundy pulls it out something like 2824.
- 1:36:12Okay, when State Baylor covers though, you know in Baylor inoki
- 1:36:18State sets themselves up to get into the playoffs as some things
- 1:36:21happen. All right, let's go out to the
- 1:36:23mound, West Brine Utah State vs San Diego State, the Mountain
- 1:36:29West, sorry. Kind of put this breaker here
- 1:36:31because I'm literally put them in the order that they come on
- 1:36:34television. Is this me or you leave them?
- 1:36:39This one or me. Let's meet lean on it.
- 1:36:43I'm San Diego State. Best team in the Mountain West.
- 1:36:46Brady Hoke leading on Brady Hoke.
- 1:36:49I think eventually Brady who's going to get a second chance at
- 1:36:51a P5 job? I think the time he went to
- 1:36:53Michigan was just not right. But I watched it.
- 1:36:57The good amount of the San Diego State Boise, State game, good
- 1:37:00offense, very efficient. Definitely a damn good defense
- 1:37:05as they always have. Yeah, are with you.
- 1:37:10They always play good defense. I think that's the difference
- 1:37:13that I think they're able to probably probably win by about a
- 1:37:15touchdown. Time ago.
- 1:37:18San Diego State. All right, let's go to the fun
- 1:37:21belt Billy Napier in his university.
- 1:37:25Lafayette. Raging Cajuns versus appstate,
- 1:37:30Chad. I'm a buddy at work Malik.
- 1:37:33Appstate. Laying three.
- 1:37:36Does Napier get it done? Once he's announced it, there's
- 1:37:40nothing to hide. I'm leaving at the end of this
- 1:37:42game or is it appstate getting revenge?
- 1:37:47This is the tough one, does he rally the troops through the
- 1:37:50troops rally around him in his last game at Lafayette or is
- 1:37:56this one where he's got one foot out the door and they're not
- 1:37:59prepared and they lay an egg against a quality opponent.
- 1:38:07I tend to go with the former, I think the players are going to
- 1:38:11Rally around him, get the job done.
- 1:38:14Send him off with a big win. So, I'll take Lafayette.
- 1:38:20I think they're going to win outright, all right.
- 1:38:24Give me AB State. I think you have state is the
- 1:38:28best team in the Sunbelt year, in year out.
- 1:38:32Always a good running game. Always a good defense and losing
- 1:38:36the Lafayette this year. I think it's a little Revenge
- 1:38:40Factor, but also, I want to say this Braun We watch that
- 1:38:45Thursday night game a little bit of it with Lafayette, right?
- 1:38:50You watch the little face, they have been struggling offensive
- 1:38:53ly for several weeks now and I think against a team like
- 1:38:57appstate, we saw appstate Take Miami to the brink we've seen
- 1:39:01have state meet other teams. They took Penn State to the
- 1:39:03bring a few years ago. I think they spoil his last game
- 1:39:07and don't get, I think they won the Sunbelt.
- 1:39:10Give me appstate. I'll lay the three and like a
- 1:39:13Touchdown game. All right, we go next to
- 1:39:18probably the game that is going to determine how the playoff
- 1:39:23looks one way or the other. It's Bama.
- 1:39:27It's Georgia. Georgia is laying six and a half
- 1:39:30points. This one is just tough because
- 1:39:36only one, Nick Saban assistant has ever beat him.
- 1:39:40Only one that was issue a Jimbo fichter But the am in the
- 1:39:46basically last second field goal.
- 1:39:50Watching, Bama over the last two weeks, I watched a good amount
- 1:39:54of the Arkansas game and even though I was watching the tech
- 1:39:56game Saturday, it was up on my upper left TV and I was really
- 1:40:02keeping an eye on it. Bam has offense showed against a
- 1:40:08Albarn defense, that was aggressive his shit.
- 1:40:10It struggled, they struggled to score points.
- 1:40:13Literally it took them to the end of the game, to get to 10.
- 1:40:18The other piece, we saw the Arkansas game, right?
- 1:40:22They could not stop the Arkansas running attack.
- 1:40:26And even though I think Arkansas is a slightly better offensive
- 1:40:30team. I think George has got more
- 1:40:32studs. I think this games about a 14
- 1:40:35point game, I think this game is going to be somewhere like
- 1:40:39Georgia. 30, you one and Bama 17.
- 1:40:47And I'm going to lay the six and a half and I'm gonna take the
- 1:40:48dogs. I'm right there with you.
- 1:40:54Bama will not be able to score more than 17 points.
- 1:40:58I think, probably 14 points. I think this is 24:14 Georgia.
- 1:41:04So I will take Georgia here. Alright, so when our scenarios
- 1:41:09bamas out now okey States one, right Brian.
- 1:41:13Yep, they're on the Cuffs. Let's go down to Houston.
- 1:41:19Cincinnati, Cincinnati, undefeated 12, and 0, 8, 10 and
- 1:41:23a half Point favorite their number for right now behind
- 1:41:27Alabama. What do you think they win?
- 1:41:32They cover, or they win or lose? Good teams win, great, teams
- 1:41:39cover. Since he is a good team, they
- 1:41:42will win. They will not cover hunt, takes
- 1:41:46Houston in a 10 and a half points.
- 1:41:48I'm going to go completely opposite of you man.
- 1:41:51I think since he is going to prove a point against a ranked
- 1:41:54Houston team with only one loss, I think they pound them.
- 1:41:58I don't think that offense gets off the ground in Houston 31:10.
- 1:42:03Cincinnati. OH domination domination.
- 1:42:07I'm going to legal limit here. I don't know if I'd go to legal
- 1:42:10limit, but you know, it's not one of them were.
- 1:42:14I see them when I'm like my 40, I haven't seen him in about 20.
- 1:42:17All right? So now we've got a man out.
- 1:42:22Okey state in or okey State winning Cincy likely holding on
- 1:42:27to their spot before we get to the last spot.
- 1:42:33Let's go to wake pit. What I think is probably I think
- 1:42:37that's going to be. This is going to be the most
- 1:42:39entertaining game of the day regardless, regardless wake or
- 1:42:46she's me, pit is a favorite by Three points.
- 1:42:53The over-under 71. I think they take that perfect.
- 1:42:58Yeah, that's about what I would pick it as well.
- 1:43:00Yep, like right at 35. So what do you say?
- 1:43:03Brian here? Well, actually, it's me right?
- 1:43:06Because you took Euston want to take.
- 1:43:09Wait, I think wake. Is that team that has shown.
- 1:43:14They can get in some shootouts and win and there's been a
- 1:43:19couple of times this year. We're pit just done a couple
- 1:43:23things just very strange and loss.
- 1:43:25I think weight wins the fight and clausen's go to the Peach
- 1:43:29Bowl. I've been struggling with this
- 1:43:34one, you've got the first-team all-acc quarterback on one side.
- 1:43:40The second-team all-acc for back on the other, you got Good at
- 1:43:47times. But very uneven in questionable
- 1:43:50defense has very high risk, High reward.
- 1:43:54I think the difference is that pits going to do a good job of
- 1:43:57attacking that long mesh. So I'm going to take pit.
- 1:44:01All right, bronze, lion, the three.
- 1:44:04I'm taking the three. All right, Brian.
- 1:44:07The final pick is Iowa versus Michigan.
- 1:44:12Michigan and 11-point favorite. You know the over-under on this
- 1:44:15game, if you looked at that, That can I have it 43 and a
- 1:44:18half? 43 and a half.
- 1:44:24Michigan lane, 11 points. What do you say on this one?
- 1:44:29I like Michigan to win this game.
- 1:44:31The 11 is just a little too rich for my blood.
- 1:44:34I think it's somewhere between a 7 and 10 point win for Michigan.
- 1:44:38So I will take Iowa here. I'm with you on that.
- 1:44:41I think Michigan, definitely wins the game.
- 1:44:42I think they win the game somewhere.
- 1:44:44Probably exactly like the over unders, predicting somewhere,
- 1:44:47like 2410. So the, the 11 is just a little
- 1:44:52bit too much. Alright, Braun in this fun.
- 1:44:58So, Bam has outright, they can smell their out.
- 1:45:06George is one, we keep in Michigan it to her cfp.
- 1:45:12If Michigan wins. Michigan is staying Michigan's
- 1:45:15to. What are you do with sin?
- 1:45:17See you, we both predicted, they win.
- 1:45:20You predicted, Houston covers. I predicted a big blowout or
- 1:45:24they three. Are they for if they win like a
- 1:45:27blowout? I think you move them to three.
- 1:45:29What if they just win you? Since you should have one loss,
- 1:45:32Houston's 11:00 in the morning, they're 24.
- 1:45:36Yeah. I think they, Principally.
- 1:45:43I think they should move to three.
- 1:45:44I'm trying to think what is the college football playoff going
- 1:45:47to do? Well, I think they stay in for,
- 1:45:52I don't think they say it for because if they stay at forced
- 1:45:54the biggest in the world, the biggest Fu in the world.
- 1:45:58Well, go play, Georgia. Now, although last year to
- 1:46:01similar teams and they hung with Georgia, right to the end.
- 1:46:05All right. Mo if our scenario holds true
- 1:46:08with both think, Oklahoma State wins no chance Notre Dame's in
- 1:46:13Not if Oklahoma State wins if Oklahoma State loses, then the
- 1:46:18college football playoff has going to have to make a big
- 1:46:21decision, you know, they're going to do to get how they're
- 1:46:23going to get it. They're going to put payment
- 1:46:25three. But they all stood George and
- 1:46:28George is a really good team. They, they the whole thing that
- 1:46:34they did with the well Notre Dame doesn't have their head
- 1:46:37coach. And we're going to take that
- 1:46:38into account was it was to create a scenario where Bama can
- 1:46:43lose and be in. That's the only reason that shit
- 1:46:45was in there. That's bullshit.
- 1:46:47You've lost two games, you lost to I've lost team, you lost to
- 1:46:51the best team in the country. We're Beyond I test, if you lose
- 1:46:55two games you should have. Yeah.
- 1:46:58With this isn't, this isn't 12 yet.
- 1:47:01Yeah. Well, was where two games can
- 1:47:03get you in in three games? Depending on who you lose to my
- 1:47:06kitchen? Yeah, I mean, I test is I test
- 1:47:12is a good differentiator all things being equal, I test
- 1:47:16should not put you in someone over someone that has a, a
- 1:47:20better resume and be head-to-head matchups that are
- 1:47:24comparable that can say, okay, well, they beat this team or
- 1:47:28they Beach this team heads up like at some point, the games
- 1:47:31have to matter. Yep.
- 1:47:33Games have to matter. I'm still waiting for, if we go
- 1:47:35to 12, there's a seven and five a sec.
- 1:47:39Aim that they try to push in but the losses are all about like a
- 1:47:43touchdown. That's that's, that's the
- 1:47:45Oklahoma that's Oklahoma. Three years.
- 1:47:51Ron has anything broken? The last almost two hours.
- 1:47:54I knew this was going to go. I'm in probably two hours.
- 1:47:58Hey, I think I think we did good.
- 1:48:00Our just over our 45 we were we were pretty smooth All Things
- 1:48:05Considered. We had a couple breaking points
- 1:48:07just before he went on here. That That, you know, probably
- 1:48:10pushed just from just over 132 just under 150 here.
- 1:48:13So what can you do? I hope you guys enjoyed it
- 1:48:16though. They really enjoyed it at all.
- 1:48:18Hope you enjoy you. Listen tomorrow.
- 1:48:21Press, you know, press like send us a send us some feedback guys
- 1:48:26of what you want to hear more from us and we got an offseason
- 1:48:29come up with. I mean this is when your guys is
- 1:48:32input, really kind of, you know, can set the table for what type
- 1:48:36of content we put out in the next five to six months.
- 1:48:39Exactly in our brains are turning trust those.
- 1:48:42Oh yeah, we're gonna have some fun stuff regardless.
- 1:48:45But yeah, if y'all if it's something y'all want, you know,
- 1:48:48we will do our best to give it to you.
- 1:48:50Damn right. We will.
- 1:48:51It's a Braun. This is a great day and hokey
- 1:48:53notion print pry officially Essentially he is announced.
- 1:49:00He is our head coach. You feel like it's about to be
- 1:49:03old times back in Blacksburg again, correct, I feel it.
- 1:49:09I was feeling well that will wrap up this episode of The
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