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Hear Bo Dukes' confession in Tara Grinstead trial! Dogs go wild! Pets that kill & save lives · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Online with Nancy Grace. But first the special Crime
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Speaker 1: online dot Com news Update. I'm Alan Duke. Thirteen years
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Speaker 1: after the disappearance of Georgia beauty queen and high school
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Speaker 1: teacher Tara Grinstead, We're hearing the confession of a former
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Speaker 1: student who tells how he helped his friend burn her
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Speaker 1: murdered body. Prosecutors played bow Duke's confession for jors at
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Speaker 1: his trial on charges of hiding Grinstead's death. Duke's confessed
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Speaker 1: to the GBI in an interview after his girlfriend's mom
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Speaker 1: told a prosecutor what he told her about helping Ryan
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Speaker 1: Dukes burn Grinstead's corpse in a pecan orchard. Here's a
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Speaker 1: critical part of Duke's confession, in which he described seeing
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Speaker 1: bruises on Grinstead's neck. Bo said Ryan told him he
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Speaker 1: strangled her in her bed clothes. Allthing pit to be
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Speaker 1: out of yours. But may here like just seeing less
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Speaker 1: and then you get a walking by you see it.
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Speaker 1: But like just like if you were walked over here,
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Speaker 1: you probably couldn't need a singing up, I mean, but
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Speaker 1: if you were, it wouldn't be too far. You can
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Speaker 1: see it, Okay, maybe two wheels over he says, laying
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Speaker 1: face up. Did you know who it was? I'm wing
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Speaker 1: that the Yeah, yes, I mean he'd already tell me
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Speaker 1: who it was. I guess I was already expecting. But
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Speaker 1: but and you know, for a class still was somebing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I means discolored. I mean, I guess for the pool
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Speaker 1: the dance aren't was any other marks or sharks or
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Speaker 1: anything gunshots, kniephings marks on our night? Can you describe
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Speaker 1: the waphone? Know ims like bruising? Yes, all right, I'm
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Speaker 1: streaming that spool. But there what I like my answer?
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Speaker 1: Anything like really descent? Okay, so by this time you
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Speaker 1: folla way three now? Yeah, so you need you see this?
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Speaker 1: And yet yeah, and why would you do it here?
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Speaker 1: On my friends? Beginning after Avilion when he said help me,
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Speaker 1: I asked him exactly where that happened? He told me
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Speaker 1: water and I have ter ride down. I tried to
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Speaker 1: come sleep. He tried to fish rol trow two year
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Speaker 1: else and he said it was white, very late at night,
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Speaker 1: and he used to gard to getting through the front door.
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Speaker 1: He jumped her a wat he was. She was in
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Speaker 1: put and and strangled right there in the and then
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Speaker 1: he into her body with the truck. I don't know
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Speaker 1: the front seat. Whoa I see ye trap Yes here
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Speaker 1: he had a big old time, and then he durned
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Speaker 1: back to Fisher. Was stopping at the at that at
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Speaker 1: that dunster round wildrat okay, and then to the ordering.
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Speaker 1: He hadn't have been there a few times in supprised
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Speaker 1: you in fountain place okay, so she shiner canter r
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Speaker 1: and then learning a lot up in your truck. Did
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Speaker 1: he say anybody else uping he stopped at a dunster
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Speaker 1: behind the larger matt Fisher, Yeah, one, turning on to
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Speaker 1: the keys and purse, sure anything else or their clothes.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember what he said about the clothes, or
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Speaker 1: he left somewhere else or I can't remember exactly. And
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Speaker 1: he never takes you why doing it? I mean he
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Speaker 1: never why earlier, never said why. I meaning to this day,
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Speaker 1: he never be stores why. So he stasilaging that before
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Speaker 1: he gets to the orchard keys purse maybe close from
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Speaker 1: our shore. Then drops to the orchard. He said he's
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Speaker 1: all been there a couple of times. The GBI agent
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Speaker 1: asked Bow what he and Ryan talked about during the
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Speaker 1: hours they watched TERA's body burn in the pecan orchard.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember a lot about them. I remember asking him,
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Speaker 1: you know more, he shared several times. Why you never
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Speaker 1: can ever tell me and I don't just don't remember
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Speaker 1: a lot about our conversations. H Third, it seems right.
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Speaker 1: It seems to me like you'd probably add something going
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Speaker 1: on with her that y'all don't know about. He did
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Speaker 1: about it, We never did it around afterward, there was
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Speaker 1: anything I never heard of them act before. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: to this day he stood off on why he did
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Speaker 1: ask him. He there to Raper knne Urner, and he
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Speaker 1: said not and did not. Bow Duke's is not charged
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Speaker 1: with Grinstad's murder. The murder trial of Ryan Duke is
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Speaker 1: set to start in Ocilla, Georgia April. First. Visit Nancy
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Speaker 1: Grace's crime and justice website crime online dot com for
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Speaker 1: updates on the Terra Grinstead trials. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: Believe it. At eighty eight years old, Jill Peterson could
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Speaker 1: do very little to defend herself from those six German Shepherds'
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Speaker 1: nightmared to me dispatched Rowan County Animal Control running Jakari
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Speaker 1: died shortly after the attack. We're told the girl is
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Speaker 1: five years old. She was petting the dog when it
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Speaker 1: bit her on the face. Oli her hair is out,
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Speaker 1: the casket can't be open to It's just like a nightmare.
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Speaker 1: I hardly believe. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. An
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Speaker 1: eighty eight year old grandma, Bessie Jill Peterson mauled dead
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Speaker 1: by a neighbor's six German shepherds in her Tennessee back yard. Quote.
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Speaker 1: They tore all of her hair out. The casket cannot
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Speaker 1: be open. Oh I'm Yancy, Grace. This is crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, joining me, Director Legal
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Speaker 1: Affairs at Animal Protection League, New Jersey, Doris Lynn with me,
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Speaker 1: renowned animal trainers, zoologist, host of Zoologic podcast, doctor Gray Stafford,
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Speaker 1: Atlanta lawyer, animal activist PD Douglas Furr, who I'm sure
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Speaker 1: is siding with the wild pack of dogs. And Robin Wilinsky,
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Speaker 1: crime online dot com investigative reporter and author of Beautiful Life,
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Speaker 1: The Cside behind the Casey Anthony Trial on Amazon. Robin, please,
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Speaker 1: this is the age of my mother who lives with me.
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Speaker 1: I cannot imagine six German shepherds attacking my mom. Nancy.
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Speaker 1: I can't either, and I have met your mother on
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Speaker 1: multiple occasions, and you've met my mother, who's also in
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Speaker 1: her eighties. And the thought of my mother, your mother,
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Speaker 1: or anybody's mother being attacked by German shepherd, not just
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Speaker 1: one German shepherd, but a pack of six German shepherds.
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Speaker 1: You talk about a person being helpless. I don't care
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Speaker 1: how tall or heavy set, or thin or petite the
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Speaker 1: woman would be in her eighties. The shock of it alone. Wow,
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. I'm looking at a shot,
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Speaker 1: a photo of Bessie Jill Patterson. She looks pretty perky,
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Speaker 1: she looks actually really cute. She's got a little jean
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Speaker 1: jacket and a pair of shorts. She's really she actually
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Speaker 1: doesn't look a day over sixty in this photo. But
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Speaker 1: no matter how physically fit you are, you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember this case Penny Douglas for
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Speaker 1: our lawyer and animal activists when we covered literally the
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Speaker 1: All American athlete. I think she was a soccer lacrosse star.
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Speaker 1: By this time she was a coach, and she was
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Speaker 1: attacked by two pressicanarios and they just so happened to
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Speaker 1: be the pets of some right wing nut but lawyers
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Speaker 1: that lived in the same building or complex, and they
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Speaker 1: attacked the female coach as she was coming home, I
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Speaker 1: think from the grocery store and they just ripped her
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Speaker 1: to death. And that was one of the first dog
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Speaker 1: ballings I had ever covered, and I could not believe it.
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Speaker 1: Penny Douglas fir six German shepherds attack an eighty eight
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Speaker 1: year old grandma. What's your defense? Oh, well, this is
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Speaker 1: the fault of the owner. This is totally the owner's fault.
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Speaker 1: Those dogs are running in a pack, and when you
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Speaker 1: have dogs running in a pack, they do things that
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Speaker 1: maybe one of the single dogs by itself would not do. Well.
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Speaker 1: That sounds like people to me, And I have said
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Speaker 1: this over and over to everybody that I know has
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Speaker 1: a big dog, a shepherd or Rockwell or any of those.
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Speaker 1: If you want this type of dog, you've got to
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Speaker 1: be take caution and do not let your dogs get loose.
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Speaker 1: You've got to be very protective and not let them
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Speaker 1: get out. The owner who let them get out, Jackie Howard,
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Speaker 1: hold on, you know what, I think you have a
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Speaker 1: biased Penny Douglas fur Jackie Howard in the studio with me.
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Speaker 1: Can you look at this picture that's Edward Fur allegedly
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Speaker 1: the husband of Penny Douglas Fur. Do you see the
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Speaker 1: dog sitting beside him? The dog is actually bigger than him.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't believe it if I wasn't looking
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Speaker 1: at it. What is that beast sitting by your husband?
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Speaker 1: I recognize your living room from what I can tell.
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Speaker 1: What's not covered with fur? What it's a sofa? And
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Speaker 1: then there's a lot of fur. What kind of dog
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Speaker 1: is that? Okay, mmm, one hundred? How many pounds? How
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Speaker 1: big is well? He is bigger than Edward? No wonder
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Speaker 1: he looks bigger than Edward. Robert will Letsky. What happened
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Speaker 1: to this lady? What happened to Jill Peterson? She would
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Speaker 1: simply Nancy in her backyard in Tennessee, minding her own business,
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Speaker 1: and her sister, Nina Brown says that these dogs should
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Speaker 1: never have been and that there was a history, there
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Speaker 1: was a number of times where had police had been
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Speaker 1: called over because these animals together, all six of them,
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Speaker 1: were exhibiting aggressive behavior. I mean, imagine, there she is
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Speaker 1: in her backyard, you know, doing her little planting with
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Speaker 1: her flowers whatever, and then all of a sudden you're
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Speaker 1: eighty years old, eighty something, eighty eight and these dogs
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Speaker 1: out of nowhere come barking, tearing at her, and tearing
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Speaker 1: all her hair out to the point where the casket
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Speaker 1: can't be opened. That's outrageous. Well, you know, I want
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Speaker 1: to follow up on something that Penny said, or maybe
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Speaker 1: it was you, Robin to Doris Lynne, director of Legal
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Speaker 1: Affairs at Animal Protection League, New Jersey. Doris, apparently the
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Speaker 1: dogs has never been loose because the police had been
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Speaker 1: called multiple times about these animals aggressive behavior. Yeah, a
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Speaker 1: dog owner have to be responsible. You can't let your
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Speaker 1: dogs run loose no matter what they're temperament. And if
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Speaker 1: you know they have um you know, a tendency to jump, embark,
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Speaker 1: and growl and be aggressive, you have to take extra caution.
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Speaker 1: And I totally, I totally agree with Penny that you
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Speaker 1: know it's it's the owner's fault. Well to doctor Gray Stafford,
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Speaker 1: I want to follow up on what Robin was saying
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Speaker 1: about how you're the animal trainer or you're the zoologist
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Speaker 1: the host of Zoologic podcast. Why do you say that
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Speaker 1: animals will do things when they're together they wouldn't normally
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Speaker 1: do if they were on their own. Because I've argued
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Speaker 1: that to a million juries. When there's gang activity or
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Speaker 1: a group of people, typically guys together, they do things
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Speaker 1: they would never have done just on their own. It's
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Speaker 1: kind of a pack mentality. Yeah, you know, I tend
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Speaker 1: to try to shy away from stereotypes about pac behavior,
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Speaker 1: especially when it comes to DAWs, because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of misinformation out there. But I agree with Penny and
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Speaker 1: you other guests that that animals will respond differently if
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Speaker 1: they're in a group setting, especially if it's a new surroundings,
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Speaker 1: new new situation that they've not been prepared for in
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Speaker 1: the past. The old rules don't apply. The expectation that
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Speaker 1: the behavior will be calm and rational maybe changes if
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Speaker 1: they're in a new situation and here they're in a
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Speaker 1: back yard that doesn't belong to them, and all sorts
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Speaker 1: of things can go wrong when these animals are not prepared,
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Speaker 1: they're not socialized or not desensitized. They're not taught to
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Speaker 1: be calm as individuals, much less when they're together as
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Speaker 1: a group. It was a Tuesday evening when Jill Peterson
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Speaker 1: first noticed her gutters were overflowing from a week of
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Speaker 1: heavy rain. Eighty eight years old, a long time waitress
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Speaker 1: does things on her own, goes out to the back
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Speaker 1: of her home there on Evans Lane in Tennessee to
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Speaker 1: try to clear out a drainage ditch. She never saw
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Speaker 1: the pack of six German shepherds coming at her, and
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Speaker 1: for the next several minutes she endured pure hell. There
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Speaker 1: was no way she could stop their attack. They dragged
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Speaker 1: her down the yard. They tore off all of her clothes,
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Speaker 1: her shoes, everything, They tore all of her hair out.
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Speaker 1: Her sister Nina, tried to save Jill. Then three of
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Speaker 1: the dogs came after her and she ran to call
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Speaker 1: nine one one. Paramedics got there very quickly. They got
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Speaker 1: Jill in an ambulance. Her wounds were so severe she
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Speaker 1: had to be airlifted my helicopter to Vanderbilt University Medical
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Speaker 1: Center and she died a very short time after getting
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Speaker 1: to the hospital. Now, what makes it worse was rubbing
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Speaker 1: salt in the wound, is that there were prior incidents
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Speaker 1: that were reported to police over years. The dogs belonged
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Speaker 1: to a neighbor who lives behind Jill. Will the dog
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Speaker 1: owner face homicide charges. What do you think, Penny Douglas
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Speaker 1: fur I think that's a good possibility because they knew
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Speaker 1: these dog. Owner knew these dogs were aggressive, and so
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Speaker 1: they should have done something to keep them in See.
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Speaker 1: I know that we and Georgia have a statue that
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Speaker 1: if the dogs are aggressive, we can go to court
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Speaker 1: and have the dogs classified and they can classify them
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Speaker 1: as aggressive dogs. If they are classified as aggressive dogs,
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Speaker 1: they have to be in a double fence and they
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Speaker 1: have to take all kinds of precautions and if there
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Speaker 1: had been multiple complaints. I don't know why this didn't
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Speaker 1: happen in this case. Well there's the old one byte
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Speaker 1: rule too, Doris Land Direct to Legal Affairs, Animal Protection League,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey and a lot of jurisdictions you get one
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Speaker 1: free bite and once you know your dog has been
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Speaker 1: in somebody, it's on you. Here, this owner had to know.
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Speaker 1: Police were called several times about the dogs, but yet
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Speaker 1: they ended up killing this woman. Yeah, that's what makes
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Speaker 1: it all the more horrifyingers that the owner knew and
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Speaker 1: the owner is to It's definitely to blame, and I
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Speaker 1: hope they do file criminal charges against the owner. You
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Speaker 1: can probably you know it's hard for me. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's walking around right here in the studio is Miss Cinnamon,
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Speaker 1: our pound cat comes in here all the time, you know. Um,
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Speaker 1: I just keep thinking about Jill. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: her sister, Nina. I just can't believe it. It's just
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Speaker 1: like a nightmare to me. So three of them came
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Speaker 1: after me after she started back in the house. That's
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Speaker 1: where they got her attacked. They drug her down there
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Speaker 1: in the yard and all of her clothes this off.
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Speaker 1: They just tore them, their shoes and everything. All of
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Speaker 1: her hair is out. The casket can't be open to
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Speaker 1: It's just like a nightmare. It's hard to believe tug
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Speaker 1: my sister's life. So no, I don't feel good about it.
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Speaker 1: It's be with me. There have Samma. I've been out
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Speaker 1: here called several times, and whatever she gets won't be enough.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but that's the way I feel. For she
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Speaker 1: knew them dogs was dangerous, and she didn't do more,
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Speaker 1: and she didn't do nothing about it. This cat is
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Speaker 1: being credited with saving a Central Florida couple's lives. Paul
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Speaker 1: and Leoda Jones say they got home from eating dinner
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Speaker 1: last Wednesday and forgot to push the start stop button
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Speaker 1: on their car. Are it sat in the garage all night,
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Speaker 1: emitting carbon monoxide, silently poisoning the home until a round
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Speaker 1: one a m. When there cat Bella started crying and
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Speaker 1: woke them up. If she hadn't cried and hadn't woke
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Speaker 1: him up, we would not have known it. We would
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Speaker 1: have slept through it, never woken up. Leona says she
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Speaker 1: barely had the energy to call nine one. One week
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Speaker 1: from inhaling the carbon monoxide. Firefighters gave the couple in
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Speaker 1: Bella oxygen and took them to the hospital and they
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Speaker 1: will all make a full recovery. You are hearing our
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Speaker 1: friend reporting from CBS four in Miami, reporter Curtis Silva.
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Speaker 1: You know, I never thought I was a cat person,
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Speaker 1: and Penny Douglas fur with me and land, a lawyer
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Speaker 1: and animal activist. You were there when I first took in.
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Speaker 1: I tried to push it off on you, okay, but
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Speaker 1: you said, hey, I have Rottwilers, I cannot have a
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Speaker 1: cat here. So I begrudgingly took in Coco, who was
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Speaker 1: a solid black cat with beautiful green eyes. And I
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Speaker 1: was living in midtown Atlanta at the time, not far
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Speaker 1: from the courthouse. I did not want an animal because
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Speaker 1: I would work crazy hours, so I'd be out in
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Speaker 1: housing projects all over town all hours of the day
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Speaker 1: and night, trying to find witnesses. I did not think.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think I had time to take care of
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Speaker 1: a pet. Well. Actually, the cat belonged to three hookers
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Speaker 1: that lived down, you know, several houses down from me.
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Speaker 1: Hence I guess the gin bottles and pantyhose i'd find
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Speaker 1: in the alley every morning. But that's a whole other story.
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Speaker 1: So Coco was named Midnight by the three hookers. I
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Speaker 1: did not like that. I thought it was stage dramatic,
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Speaker 1: and I kept feeding the cat, feeding the cat. Finally,
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Speaker 1: the poor little thing was wet. He looked starved. I
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Speaker 1: didn't even know it's a girl or a boy. I
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Speaker 1: took him in the first thing you did, Penny, as
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Speaker 1: your recall, was crawled right up into the engine of
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Speaker 1: my beat up hot and I couldn't get him out
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Speaker 1: to go to work. Okay, that's how it all started
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Speaker 1: with me and Coco. It turned into a nineteen year
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Speaker 1: love and I still dream about him. He stayed with
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Speaker 1: me until joy in my life I had the twins,
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Speaker 1: and shortly after that he went to heaven. Do you
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Speaker 1: remember the time Mike, now husband almost didn't happen. I
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Speaker 1: was in New York. He had the cat. The cat
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Speaker 1: got loose. He was an indoor outdoor cat. But what
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Speaker 1: happened was he was having David was having his home remodeled,
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Speaker 1: and they came in with the wrecking ball. How many times,
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Speaker 1: Penny did I say, make sure you have Coco at
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Speaker 1: the vet when they tear the house down, or take
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Speaker 1: him to the new place immediately? No, he didn't. The
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Speaker 1: cat ran away. Penny, you were the one out. I
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Speaker 1: nearly broke up. I almost didn't have the marriage or
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Speaker 1: the twins over the cat. You were the one putting
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Speaker 1: up the hip. Please help me find Coco posters in
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Speaker 1: the reward. Here's the happy ending. We found Coco about
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Speaker 1: four or five houses catty cornered from David's home, and
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Speaker 1: he had been taken in by an old widow lady
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Speaker 1: named Miss Jane Baird. She had renamed him mister Kitty. Okay,
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Speaker 1: And when I found out where it was, I called her.
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Speaker 1: She said, hold on, Nancy, I'm saultetum some shrimp right now. Well,
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Speaker 1: that cat was in heaven. Okay. So I got back
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Speaker 1: with David Lynch, we got married, we had the twins,
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Speaker 1: we brought Coco home. It's a happy ending. Tell me
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Speaker 1: about this cat, Robin went Sky Bella. Well, I'm not
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Speaker 1: a fan of cast because I think that they sneak
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Speaker 1: up on you. But I am a huge fan of Bella,
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Speaker 1: the cat. I don't like anything that's oh I love
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Speaker 1: that story. I love the story. You think they sneak up, okay,
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Speaker 1: go ahead up on you. And I'm a little jittery
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Speaker 1: to begin with, so I cannot deal with cass. When
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Speaker 1: I grew up, I had Chumley, the basset hound. So
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Speaker 1: Chumley was one of those tricolor baskets, you know, real
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Speaker 1: friendly slobbers all over the place. That's what I can
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Speaker 1: deal with. But anyway, needless to say, I am a
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Speaker 1: as a non cat lover, I'm a huge cat fan
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Speaker 1: of Bella because without this cat, these people would be
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Speaker 1: dead and six feet under because the cat cried and
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Speaker 1: woke them up and they were being poisoned by carbon monoxide.
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Speaker 1: And there have been many any cases I can think
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Speaker 1: of out on Long Island and the Hamptons at some
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Speaker 1: you know fancy schmancy houses where people have died from
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Speaker 1: carbon monoxide. You're asleep, you don't realize you're inhaling it.
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Speaker 1: But up there's Bella crying wake up, and sure enough
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Speaker 1: the car is still running because it's one of those
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Speaker 1: new cars that has the push button and they just
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Speaker 1: simply forgot to turn it off. Well, I had a
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Speaker 1: friend passed away, doctor Gray Stafford, animal trainer, zoologist, host
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Speaker 1: of Zoologic podcast, that died of carbon monoxide. And this
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Speaker 1: is how it happened. So I moved to New York
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Speaker 1: to start a show with Johnny Cochrane. God Rest his soul.
21:32
Speaker 1: I knew absolutely nobody, nobody at all. I made friends
21:37
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21:38
Speaker 1: door neighbor was a guy Richard and his wife and
21:43
Speaker 1: they had a boat parked at the I call it
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Speaker 1: the Laguartium Arena, I don't know the real name for it.
21:49
Speaker 1: And he said, hey, come out to our boat. Well,
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21:57
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Speaker 1: meet the dock master and a lot of other people
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Speaker 1: there that day. Well, as it turns out, a couple
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Speaker 1: of years later, the guy, the dockmaster, was on his
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Speaker 1: boat with his whole family and they were playing cards.
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Speaker 1: They all fell asleep at the card table. They died
22:17
Speaker 1: of carbon monoxide being pumped into the boat. And it
22:21
Speaker 1: was a huge shot. So doctor Gray, zoologist, doctor Grace Stafford,
22:27
Speaker 1: how could the cat smell the carbon monoxide? The people
22:32
Speaker 1: couldn't and the cat knew enough to go wake up
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Speaker 1: the people. Well, I think we can all agree that
22:37
Speaker 1: cats are a mystery. And I've worked with about a
22:39
Speaker 1: half dozen different species of feelings, and they're all amazing,
22:43
Speaker 1: and they are they will. Well, you're talking about big
22:46
Speaker 1: cats like the one you introduced my children too. When
22:48
Speaker 1: I look at that back at that picture, I'm like,
22:50
Speaker 1: what was I thinking? There's me and the twins and
22:52
Speaker 1: a giant what was it? A mountain lion? I think
22:57
Speaker 1: was it one of our lion cubs. That's not really
22:59
Speaker 1: the way I remembered. I remember a huge, gigantic, clawing,
23:03
Speaker 1: malling bass. No, it was a cub of a little bit.
23:06
Speaker 1: So the cat are pretty bigger next to them. But
23:09
Speaker 1: you know, cats are our mystery. But they have keen senses,
23:12
Speaker 1: and you're right, carbon monoxide is odorless. It's colorless. Uh,
23:15
Speaker 1: But animals are really good at detecting differences in their
23:20
Speaker 1: environment in a situation. What the difference was, who knows.
23:23
Speaker 1: Maybe she just felt bad and started mewing. But animals
23:27
Speaker 1: are really good something though. You say it's odorless, but
23:30
Speaker 1: yet the cat could smell it. Well, maybe it smelled
23:33
Speaker 1: it or or or maybe it just detected that it
23:35
Speaker 1: wasn't feeling well, it wasn't doing well. Something was different, uh,
23:39
Speaker 1: and it it let out that call. So animals are
23:42
Speaker 1: really keen about their environment, their surroundings, and changes to
23:45
Speaker 1: those things. Subtle changes um are noticed by animals that
23:49
Speaker 1: we humans wouldn't otherwise notice. Well, this is what happened.
23:51
Speaker 1: I kept wondering how they let the car run for
23:53
Speaker 1: eight hours. This is what happened. Paul and Leona Jones,
23:55
Speaker 1: they're there in Deltna. They ran inside from a heavy rainstorm.
24:00
Speaker 1: They did forgot to turn off their car after coming
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Speaker 1: in the garage. They're not idiots. It's cars that have
24:05
Speaker 1: those push button starts, and either they didn't push it,
24:08
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Speaker 1: running for eight hours, and Paul wakes up to hear
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Speaker 1: Bella crying under the bed. I'm looking at a picture
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Speaker 1: of Bella right now. She looks like grumpy cat, but
24:31
Speaker 1: with a kind of a smile. Then he collapsed on
24:35
Speaker 1: the bed. Then Leona wakes up. She was so weak
24:38
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24:40
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24:44
Speaker 1: they rush into the hospital. Paul was in such bad shape,
24:48
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't think he was gonna make it.
24:51
Speaker 1: Long story short, the cat lived and the couple has
24:56
Speaker 1: been giving the life saving cat extra treats, you know.
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25:17
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25:21
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. We're told the girl is five years old.
27:03
Speaker 1: She was petting the dog when it bit her on
27:05
Speaker 1: the face. On December eighteenth, the Port of Portland says
27:08
Speaker 1: a dog bit a young girl while they waited to
27:10
Speaker 1: board a flight in concourse set. The bite caused significant
27:13
Speaker 1: injuries to her face. The dog was taken to the
27:15
Speaker 1: Maltenauma County Animal Shelter for a required ten day quarantine.
27:19
Speaker 1: The animals shelter identify the dog as a forty eight
27:22
Speaker 1: pound American pit bull mix. I think a lot of
27:25
Speaker 1: people don't understand that their dogs aren't well trained, and
27:28
Speaker 1: they humanize them too much. They bring them into environments
27:31
Speaker 1: that they shouldn't. Lisa Wooden is traveling with her dog, Rooster,
27:35
Speaker 1: a three year old rescue. She's not bringing him on board.
27:39
Speaker 1: She feels it's too risky. He's never bitten anybody, but
27:42
Speaker 1: I think this is a stressful environment, so for him
27:45
Speaker 1: it's probably best to go underneath the plane. The dog
27:48
Speaker 1: owner in this month's biting incident was cited because her
27:51
Speaker 1: dog was not in a crate. The Port of Portland
27:53
Speaker 1: says dogs that are not service animals must be created
27:57
Speaker 1: inside the airport, but they admit enforcement is challenge. Officers
28:00
Speaker 1: can only ask if the dog is a service animal.
28:03
Speaker 1: The traveler does not have to provide documentation, nor does
28:06
Speaker 1: the dog have to wear a vest. I'm surprised that
28:09
Speaker 1: you can go on a plane with a dog not
28:12
Speaker 1: in a carrier. I think you should have to show something,
28:15
Speaker 1: you know, card or whatever. Wait a minute, did I
28:17
Speaker 1: hear right? A nearly fifty pound pit bull is a
28:22
Speaker 1: comfort dog. That would not be a comfort to me
28:26
Speaker 1: on a plane. I can tell you that much much
28:28
Speaker 1: less with my children on there. It would be either
28:30
Speaker 1: me or that dog. Penny Doug with fur lawyer, animal activists.
28:33
Speaker 1: I know you're just, you know, chomping at the bit
28:35
Speaker 1: on this one, but I do not want a pit
28:37
Speaker 1: bull next to my children on a plane. You know,
28:40
Speaker 1: the other day, I don't know if you guys know
28:42
Speaker 1: about this, but I rebe somebody had a comfort alligator,
28:46
Speaker 1: a comfort a service alligator. Yes, Robert Wilensky, what do
28:52
Speaker 1: they mean a fifty pound pit bull comfort dog? Let's focus.
28:58
Speaker 1: How many times, Nancy, have you been in the airport.
29:00
Speaker 1: I've been in the airport and we see these dogs,
29:02
Speaker 1: and you know damn well that it is not a
29:05
Speaker 1: comfort dog. I am all about people who are blind
29:10
Speaker 1: who have their dog and they have the vest and
29:13
Speaker 1: they have the tags, and they have the paperwork and
29:15
Speaker 1: the documents, and these people seriously need a dog. But
29:19
Speaker 1: I've seen little foo food dogs. I've seen these huge pitballs.
29:22
Speaker 1: I flew to Vegas recently there was a huge pit
29:25
Speaker 1: ball sitting in the bulkhead. My parents were on a
29:27
Speaker 1: plane recently. My dad got peed on by a dog
29:31
Speaker 1: in the bulkhead that was not caged, and the airline
29:34
Speaker 1: offered him fifty dollars I guess for the dry cleaning.
29:38
Speaker 1: But this is outrageous that this fifty pound pitball is
29:42
Speaker 1: running around now. One of the airlines, Delta, has banned
29:45
Speaker 1: this practice and if you have a dog, you have
29:48
Speaker 1: to create it. Hey, the fee and the dog goes
29:51
Speaker 1: into the belly of the plane. This is nonsense. People
29:54
Speaker 1: are taking advantage of the rules. Well, she's absolutely right.
29:57
Speaker 1: You know, a trained service dog is not what we're
29:59
Speaker 1: talking about this case. We're talking about people taking on
30:01
Speaker 1: their therapy dogs, whatever their comfort dogs. But there's no
30:05
Speaker 1: regulation on it. There's very little oversight, and it's gotten
30:08
Speaker 1: way out of hand. I appreciated your stories, but can
30:11
Speaker 1: we get back to the malling because I am looking
30:14
Speaker 1: at I'm all about dog tt in fact, the other day,
30:17
Speaker 1: fat boy ran in the house and went straight to
30:19
Speaker 1: my mother's automan and t teet on it, just straight
30:22
Speaker 1: to it like it was calling him. Long story short,
30:25
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this little girl. miRNA Gonzales has filed
30:29
Speaker 1: a lawsuit on behalf of her daughter, Gabriella, claimbing dog
30:33
Speaker 1: on her. Michelle Brannan should have known her animal had
30:36
Speaker 1: vicious propensities this child. Have you seen this picture? Jackie
30:41
Speaker 1: is just covered in blood on her face. I don't
30:45
Speaker 1: know if that's going to be permanent scars or not.
30:48
Speaker 1: So what do we do to Doris Lynn to right
30:51
Speaker 1: her legal affairs at Animal Protection League New Jersey? What
30:55
Speaker 1: is the mom supposed to do? What's the answer? Hold on,
30:58
Speaker 1: take a listen to this tonight the par of this
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Speaker 1: five year old girl mauled by a pit bull at
31:02
Speaker 1: an airport gate, suing Alaska Airlines, Portland's airport and the
31:07
Speaker 1: dog's owner for allegedly letting a dangerous emotional support animal
31:10
Speaker 1: into the airport without a carrier. Gabriella Gonzalez's parents say
31:14
Speaker 1: the incident back in twenty seventeen left their daughter severely injured.
31:18
Speaker 1: In court documents claiming it happened because the airport allowed
31:21
Speaker 1: a passenger into a secure area with a pit bull
31:24
Speaker 1: that was not a trained and registered service animal. We've
31:29
Speaker 1: seen incidents involving support animal turn into airplat walls. Other
31:33
Speaker 1: times people have claimed animals like this peacock were for
31:37
Speaker 1: emotional support. Several major carriers since refining their rules as
31:41
Speaker 1: a result, Delta even banning all pit bull type dogs.
31:45
Speaker 1: Alaska Airlines saying they are heartbroken by this incident. Portland's
31:49
Speaker 1: airport now acquires emotional support animals be kept in their carriers. Well,
31:53
Speaker 1: you're hearing from our friends at ABC News, as reporter
31:56
Speaker 1: Kanye Whitworth. Earlier you heard from KATU reporter is Lytle.
32:01
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a picture right now, Penny Douglas fur
32:05
Speaker 1: of an emotional support alligator. I wanted to make sure
32:08
Speaker 1: I recalled that correctly. Yes, his name is Wally. He
32:12
Speaker 1: has a lot of teeth. I'm looking at a twenty
32:15
Speaker 1: nineteen photo of the emotional support alligator and he is
32:21
Speaker 1: walking into Spirit Trust Lutheran Village in York, Pennsylvania. I
32:27
Speaker 1: don't know why I thought it would have to be Orlando, Florida,
32:30
Speaker 1: but it's York Pennsylvania. I'm I understand that there are
32:34
Speaker 1: support chickens, support squirrels, support pigs, and penny. The reason
32:40
Speaker 1: I'm going to use because you insist that there's a
32:42
Speaker 1: support peacock. The picture of the support peacock and the
32:48
Speaker 1: gentleman earlier is absolutely correct. There needs to be some
32:52
Speaker 1: kind of oversight with support animals because it's gotten to
32:56
Speaker 1: the point where people now are making money certificates to
33:02
Speaker 1: put your dog's name or your peacock's name, or your
33:05
Speaker 1: alligator's name on a support animals certificate so you can
33:10
Speaker 1: show it at the airport or wherever. They've got to
33:13
Speaker 1: get some kind of control over this and then have
33:17
Speaker 1: people have to go to a doctor and have people
33:20
Speaker 1: to have to go through some steps to train the animal.
33:23
Speaker 1: You can't just call and get a certificate. That's the problem.
33:27
Speaker 1: There's just no oversought. Doris Lynn, director Legal Affairs, Animal
33:31
Speaker 1: Protection League, New Jersey way in. Doris, Yes, I just
33:34
Speaker 1: heard a news clip that or one of the airlines
33:37
Speaker 1: is banning pitbull type animals. That is the wrong answer.
33:42
Speaker 1: Brief specific legislation is I don't know, Doris. I like it.
33:47
Speaker 1: I like it. I'm not crazy about the service squirrel.
33:50
Speaker 1: But I'd rather have a service squirrel next to me
33:52
Speaker 1: in a seat on the plane at my children than
33:55
Speaker 1: a service pitbull. But we can't blame the breed, you know,
33:58
Speaker 1: like this organizations say, you know, punish the deed, not
34:03
Speaker 1: the breed. And if we look at temperament tests, you know,
34:07
Speaker 1: pimples are exceeded by many other breeds as far as
34:10
Speaker 1: aggression goes, So definitely that is not the answer. Maybe
34:15
Speaker 1: there does need to be some kind of certification program,
34:18
Speaker 1: some kind of standards so that you know, someone can't
34:20
Speaker 1: just walk on a plane and say, you know, oh,
34:22
Speaker 1: this is my comfort elephant. You know, I think there
34:26
Speaker 1: does need to be some better regulation. Well I think
34:29
Speaker 1: we said it all. We said comfort alligator. Okay, Grace Stafford,
34:32
Speaker 1: go ahead. I think there's a way to meet in
34:34
Speaker 1: the middle here, and one is we need to make
34:36
Speaker 1: it easier for people to travel with their pets and animals,
34:38
Speaker 1: but we need to do it in a way that's
34:39
Speaker 1: safe for the general public. So, whether it's traveling underneath
34:42
Speaker 1: the plane in a carrier, can I ask you a question,
34:45
Speaker 1: is it just me? Or why do you have to
34:46
Speaker 1: travel with your pet with you in the plane around children.
34:51
Speaker 1: Why why do you have to do that? I mean,
34:54
Speaker 1: am I missing something? Well? I agree, I think I
34:57
Speaker 1: think there's a way to do it that makes the
34:58
Speaker 1: less So why do we have to have chicken on
35:00
Speaker 1: the plane? Well it won't be a big deal, right
35:05
Speaker 1: what but you looked at no, no, no, Penny? What
35:09
Speaker 1: did you just say? Because I grew up with my
35:12
Speaker 1: grandmother on Jeda farm, we had defeated chickens. Have you
35:16
Speaker 1: ever fed them? You walk out with a handful of seed?
35:19
Speaker 1: They it's like the birds. Did you see that? That's real?
35:22
Speaker 1: But with chickens, chickens I grew up in the country. Well,
35:27
Speaker 1: you also have six roote wilders running through your house.
35:29
Speaker 1: So I take everything you say with a box of salt.
35:32
Speaker 1: Penny Douglas far was that? What? Great? Was I with you?
35:35
Speaker 1: Or did I detoured to Penny? Go ahay? Gray? Well,
35:37
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, relying on a certification
35:41
Speaker 1: or a new law is kind of after the fact.
35:44
Speaker 1: I think everyone out there traveling or around any animal
35:47
Speaker 1: they don't know needs to assume that that animal poses
35:50
Speaker 1: a risk until their behavior demonstrates that it doesn't. And
35:53
Speaker 1: so we're far too trusting around animals that We don't
35:57
Speaker 1: know when we encounter them along the street or an
35:59
Speaker 1: airport or whatever. So we shouldn't assume that a certificate
36:02
Speaker 1: or a law is going to protect us. It's not.
36:06
Speaker 1: We have to use a little more common sense and
36:08
Speaker 1: be guarded until we know that the animal is safe
36:10
Speaker 1: to be around. Well, there's another issue, and that is
36:13
Speaker 1: you know how your ears hurt when sometimes when you
36:16
Speaker 1: go on a plane, and animals, especially dogs are super
36:20
Speaker 1: sensitive with their hearing and their smell. How much do
36:23
Speaker 1: you think it hurts them? And you're hurting a dog
36:27
Speaker 1: with the altitude change, and what does it do? Snap
36:31
Speaker 1: and by It's just to me, it's a no win situation.
36:34
Speaker 1: I don't even understand how this has happening. And I
36:39
Speaker 1: don't have a problem banning pit bulls from a plane.
36:43
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like that movie Snakes in a plane.
36:46
Speaker 1: Why are they there same thing about pit bulls. I mean,
36:50
Speaker 1: I'm sure you disagree, Penny, I totally disagree with that.
36:52
Speaker 1: I don't think you should blame the break because there's
36:55
Speaker 1: some very good pit bulls. Just because some are aggressive
36:58
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're all agreed. Then I don't think you
37:01
Speaker 1: should ever blame a breed of animal. Okay, you tell
37:04
Speaker 1: that tim Rna Gonzalez and her little girl, Gabriella. I'll
37:07
Speaker 1: just leave it at that running. The child had already
37:13
Speaker 1: been airlifted to Nordkalom Batter's Hospital when we received the call.
37:16
Speaker 1: Police say it happened at this Salisbury home on Tuesday afternoon.
37:20
Speaker 1: Jacari's babysitter left him in his car seat inside the
37:23
Speaker 1: home while she went outside to clean the back seat
37:26
Speaker 1: of her car. That's when the babysitter's dog, a four
37:29
Speaker 1: year old boxer pit bull mix, attacked Jakari. At this point,
37:33
Speaker 1: we are currently still interviewing the family members of the residents,
37:38
Speaker 1: and also we were interviewing some of the neighbors. Nine
37:40
Speaker 1: one dispatched Rowan County Animal Control. Once he got Darryls
37:44
Speaker 1: how bad the situation was. That's when I notified us
37:46
Speaker 1: and I said by that time, the child had already
37:48
Speaker 1: been transferred to another facility. Jachary died shortly after the attack.
37:52
Speaker 1: Asked for the animal in question, this is the dog
37:56
Speaker 1: who police say killed Jakari. The pit bull mix was
37:59
Speaker 1: passed for his babies vaccination and has displayed aggressive behavior
38:04
Speaker 1: at the shelter. The investigation is ongoing. We're not sure
38:07
Speaker 1: exactly if this could have been aboarted or not. You're
38:09
Speaker 1: hearing from our friends at WCNC. They're in Sherillotte, North Carolina.
38:13
Speaker 1: A six month old baby boy mauled dead by his
38:17
Speaker 1: babysitters pitbull boxer mix Penny. What is with you going
38:25
Speaker 1: pit bulls are being singled out. I'm more worried about Jakari,
38:28
Speaker 1: the little baby, and you're worried about pitbulls and what
38:31
Speaker 1: they're human rights violations. No, but I can tell you
38:35
Speaker 1: cases where Docsin's attacked and killed the baby. It's not
38:39
Speaker 1: just pitbulls that kill a baby. But you people don't
38:42
Speaker 1: like to hear those stories, and like when pitbulls save
38:46
Speaker 1: a child, I don't like to hear any story about
38:49
Speaker 1: a dog eating a baby. Okay, let's just put that
38:51
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know how you can keep defending
38:54
Speaker 1: pitbulls have safe children. I love that story, pipples have
38:57
Speaker 1: safe children. Let me get the facts, Robin will let's
39:01
Speaker 1: key what happened, Nancy. Here's the thing. This six month
39:05
Speaker 1: old baby is innocent, sitting in the house the babysitter.
39:11
Speaker 1: She probably didn't mean it. It's the old story, you
39:13
Speaker 1: look away for just a second. She went outside, and
39:18
Speaker 1: all of a sudden she heard screams. Her mother was inside,
39:23
Speaker 1: and you know, you turn around for a second, and
39:25
Speaker 1: your kid, by accident, touches the stove. And just as
39:29
Speaker 1: soon as that babysitter walked outside that home, the dog
39:32
Speaker 1: went wild on the baby. Well, why would you leave
39:34
Speaker 1: a baby with the pit bull? I mean, Robin, why
39:37
Speaker 1: does she leave the baby with the pit bull? My
39:39
Speaker 1: understanding of the situation was that she went outside to
39:41
Speaker 1: her car to get something that they were getting ready
39:44
Speaker 1: to leave, and she stepped away for a second, and
39:47
Speaker 1: that's all it takes. The infantcip car Along was attacked
39:50
Speaker 1: by his babysitter's dog, Salisbury, North Carolina. She says she
39:54
Speaker 1: went outside to clean her car. Then her mother, screaming
39:57
Speaker 1: from the living room where she left the baby, walked
40:00
Speaker 1: in to find the boxer pitbull biting the six month old.
40:04
Speaker 1: The baby Jakari died. Jakari Lexington was in that living
40:10
Speaker 1: room there in Salsbury's, two thirty in the afternoon. This
40:16
Speaker 1: is just overwhelming to me that this could happen to
40:21
Speaker 1: doctor Gray Stafford, animal trainer or zoologist, host of zoologic
40:25
Speaker 1: podcasts talk to me about dog attacks on infants. I
40:30
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Well, it's gut wrenching, as you say.
40:34
Speaker 1: And there's a unifying theme in all these sad stories,
40:36
Speaker 1: whether someone's injured or in this case killed, and that
40:38
Speaker 1: is you've got animals that are either uncontrolled, unprepared, or
40:42
Speaker 1: at some point unsupervised. And it's a common theme that
40:46
Speaker 1: we see. And there is no we stepped away for
40:49
Speaker 1: a moment. You cannot do that when you're talking about
40:52
Speaker 1: children or the elderly in the presence of an animal.
40:55
Speaker 1: You just can't do it, because animals don't always respond
40:59
Speaker 1: rationally as we hope they would in new situations. It
41:02
Speaker 1: straight to you, Doris Land direct to Legal Affairs, Animal
41:05
Speaker 1: Protection League, New Jersey, What do you make of this? So,
41:09
Speaker 1: of course this was horrible, This is tragic, and you know,
41:14
Speaker 1: whether the animal had exhibited agressive behavior before will determine,
41:18
Speaker 1: you know, whether she's um negligent or you know, maybe
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Speaker 1: um you know, criminally prosecuted. But I do have to
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Speaker 1: object to these headlines that constantly, constantly say pitbull. Uh.
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Speaker 1: The media knows that it will generate clicks, it will
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Speaker 1: generate views and that's why they put a pitbull in
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Speaker 1: these headlines. If you know a collie docstions, beagal bites
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Speaker 1: a person. It never says colleague Mall's baby, you know,
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Speaker 1: beagle bites elderly woman. They do it for pitbulls. They
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Speaker 1: do it for German shepherds, Rottwilers because no, it will
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Speaker 1: generate clicks and this um this creates this narrative about
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Speaker 1: certain breeds that is, you know, really unfair. So, Penny,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like we're stirring you up again with unfair
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Speaker 1: to pit bulls. I'm sorry, I disagree. Maybe you want
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Speaker 1: to blame the media, that's fine. But every story I
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Speaker 1: hear about every case I've handled is typically a pit bull,
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Speaker 1: a pit bull mix, or a Rottweiler. Yes, occasionally a
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Speaker 1: press the Canaria like yours, and occasionally a dockson. I
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Speaker 1: guess you could call mine a doxon. They told me
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Speaker 1: at the pound he was pure bred doxin. Okay, he's
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Speaker 1: pure bred mutt. That is not a dosin. But why
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Speaker 1: is it always a pit bull we hear about Penny
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Speaker 1: Douglas first, everybody lying, but you endorse Lynn. No, it's
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Speaker 1: a matter of fact. You know that the pit bull
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Speaker 1: is not the one that bites most often. I think
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Speaker 1: that's a lab If you look at the number of bites,
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Speaker 1: it's not coming from a pit bull. Well well wait wait,
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Speaker 1: how about the number of deaths? Well, guess would also
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Speaker 1: come from the people that are reporting it. You're hearing
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Speaker 1: it from the media. Oh, the main media bullying up
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Speaker 1: on the poor pit bull. Penny. I see the picture,
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Speaker 1: the photo. I got photographic evidence of your husband on
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Speaker 1: a sofa with a dog that is physically bigger than him.
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Speaker 1: I thought the picture had been doctored for Pete's sake.
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Speaker 1: Robert Lensky, where does this case stand now? Well, the
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Speaker 1: situation is that the parents of this little boy are
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Speaker 1: absolutely distraught, and the police continue to investigate the babysitter.
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Speaker 1: But I want to tell you that the father actually said, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: and this is a quote, he said, I don't want
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Speaker 1: to be here. I want my baby back, you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. That kind of reverges
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Speaker 1: on possible suicide. He is distraught. In is heartbreaking, and
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Speaker 1: they do have a go FUNDI page, but it still
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Speaker 1: is under investigation. I'm looking, according to Forbes, in America's
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Speaker 1: most dangerous dog breeds, and this is all the way
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Speaker 1: from two thousand and five to twenty seventeen. Pitbull two
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four attack fatal attacks on humans, two
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four fatal attacks, Rottweiler forty five, German
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Speaker 1: shepherd twenty mixed breed seventeen, bulldog fifteen, mastiff, bull mastiff fourteen,
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Speaker 1: husky thirteen, lab nine, boxer seven, Doberman six. They don't
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Speaker 1: even have docksins on here, so pitbull by well, I
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Speaker 1: can send you cases where docksins killed a base. Please do,
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Speaker 1: because I doubt it's going to equal the three hundred
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Speaker 1: dead bodies caused by pitbulls. I will leave it as that.
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Speaker 1: Penny Douglas, Doris Land, I'm sure you agree with me.
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Speaker 1: Robert Less, keep just the neutral arbiter of the facts.
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Speaker 1: And doctor Gray Stafford from Zoologic. He's always on the
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Speaker 1: side of the animal. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye,
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Speaker 1: Friend one