Latest / Dished at Birth / S1E10 - 'The Homecoming'
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- 0:00Today in books used to stabilize my mic, I have
- 0:04Twilight director's handbook signed by Catherine
- 0:08Hardwick. Who's Catherine Hardwick? The director
- 0:11of Twilight. That's amazing. Did you meet her?
- 0:14No, but my friend's dad was a poster designer
- 0:19and he worked on her next film, which was like
- 0:22the Little Red Riding Hood retelling with Amanda
- 0:25Seyfried. Yes, I remember that. Which honestly
- 0:27kind of rocked. Really? It was like really dark
- 0:30and fucked up. Okay, nice. I was the only one
- 0:33of my friends who liked Twilight at the time.
- 0:36When I was 12 years old, I was a pioneer. You
- 0:39were. You really were. Because all of my friends
- 0:41were in the camp of like, he sparkles in the
- 0:44sun, like this is so cringe and embarrassing.
- 0:46And I was like, you guys don't understand true
- 0:49love or real yearning. So anyway, but so my friend
- 0:52Zoe, shout out, she listens to the pod. Her dad
- 0:55got me the book and had Kathryn sign it. And
- 0:59she was like, here you go, you weirdo, that you
- 1:01like this movie. Thank you, Zoe. I know. Thanks,
- 1:04Zoe. Just so you guys know, I'm getting over
- 1:06a cold. So if I sound weird, that's why. But
- 1:09I was kind of hoping to have like, you know,
- 1:11in Friends when Phoebe gets sick and she has
- 1:13sexy voice? You're talking to the wrong person.
- 1:16You haven't seen Friends. I never liked Friends.
- 1:18What? Sorry. I'm listening to a whole podcast
- 1:22right now, Caroline O'Donoghue's podcast series
- 1:24about Friends. Okay. Called Friends Through a
- 1:27Lens. That's how much I like it. Yeah, it's great.
- 1:29Great name. No, I never got into Friends. I remember
- 1:32watching your, Friends growing up and I just was
- 1:36like, this isn't funny. Wow. Maybe I was kind
- 1:39of ahead of the time because I think now a lot
- 1:41of people are like, this isn't funny. No, I would
- 1:44actually argue in the 2010s, people were like,
- 1:46this isn't funny. And then it's really come back
- 1:49around. I don't know. I just, it never stuck
- 1:52with me. I think you're wrong and you should
- 1:53give it another chance. I think some of the writing
- 1:56is really good for a sitcom. It has a laugh track,
- 1:59right? Most sitcoms have a laugh track. That's
- 2:01my thing. My pet peeve is when the show has a
- 2:04laugh track. I hate laugh tracks. Have you considered
- 2:07taking your implants out and watching it deaf?
- 2:10So I'm just reading. I'm just reading. Yeah.
- 2:12And looking at the great 90s outfits. Maybe.
- 2:15Anyway, there's an episode where Phoebe gets
- 2:18a cold. And she still has to play her gig at
- 2:21the cafe and she does it. But because she's like
- 2:24losing her voice, she sounds really sexy. I love
- 2:26that. Is it like a little rasp? Yeah, a little
- 2:29rasp. But I don't think I have one today. I think
- 2:32I just maybe sound a little nasally. Maybe. You're
- 2:35asking the wrong person. I know. Did you have
- 2:37a good time in LA? I did. It was really nice
- 2:39for it to be 75 degrees outside. Yeah, it's really
- 2:42cold here. Yeah, although when I landed here,
- 2:45I landed at JFK at 6 a .m. and it had just started
- 2:49really snowing. And I love snow. I was taking
- 2:53pictures in the Uber like it was a concert. It
- 2:56was magical. A grew up in a country where it
- 3:00does not snow. So when we first met, we lived
- 3:04in Boston. There's a lot of snow in Boston. They
- 3:06were on top of the world, constantly going outside.
- 3:09Okay. Yeah, I like winter enthusiasm. Yeah. In
- 3:13Los Angeles, my mother made her egg lasagna that
- 3:18she makes for Christmas. What is it called in
- 3:19the Family Stone that she makes? I need to look
- 3:22it up. We just talked about it. It was basically
- 3:24like an egg casserole, but they didn't call it
- 3:26that. It was, but it had a fancy name. Guys,
- 3:29you haven't heard it yet because this episode
- 3:31is coming out this week. This is one of the only
- 3:34times we're recording the week it's going to
- 3:36come out due to some scheduling issues. But next
- 3:40week. Our bonus episode on The Family Stone will
- 3:43come out on Christmas. Merry Christmas in advance.
- 3:45And we are very confused about the dish that
- 3:49is at the centerpiece of the movie. But... It's
- 3:52an egg breakfast dish. It's like an egg breakfast
- 3:54lasagna. But then at the end of the episode,
- 3:57I was like, well, my mom does make an egg breakfast
- 4:00lasagna. And then I did ask her to make it when
- 4:02I was home. Because I'm not going to be there
- 4:04on Christmas proper. And it was delicious. So
- 4:07maybe we shouldn't have been making fun of Meredith
- 4:10with all those. No, we should have. I grew up
- 4:14eating normal Italian lasagna. So having egg
- 4:17with it seems a little suspicious. But I'm open
- 4:20to trying. I'm pretty open to putting egg on
- 4:22things for someone that gets the egg ick. Like
- 4:25when I ate burgers, I loved a breakfast burger
- 4:27with egg on it. No, I never tried egg with like
- 4:30a burger. I love egg in a fried rice. Yeah. Nice
- 4:34fried egg on top of my rice. On an avocado toast,
- 4:38big fan. Yeah, I had that this morning. Really?
- 4:41Yeah. I just, the avocados in New York, something
- 4:44about them, I can't. Trader Joe's. Yeah. It's
- 4:47just Trader Joe's avocados. The teeny tiny avocados.
- 4:50Those were the ones that I always liked as well.
- 4:52But I kept getting, like, they wouldn't ripen
- 4:55right here. Basically what I'm saying is I'm
- 4:58an asshole and I only eat avocado in California.
- 5:02And I'm so sorry to everyone that's learning
- 5:04that. Whatever, support your local economy. Oh
- 5:13my god, dude. I was so excited when I realized
- 5:22this was the episode. Season 1, episode 10, The
- 5:25Homecoming. Which came out August 8th, 2011.
- 5:29Did you get a chance to look at the painting?
- 5:30I did. The painting, The Homecoming by Jenny
- 5:34Augusta Brownscombe. And it shows a woman holding
- 5:37a baby and greeting a man who looks like he's
- 5:40returned home. Yeah. Which makes sense because
- 5:43a man has returned. A man has returned. Yeah,
- 5:47we open on what I started to text you. As this
- 5:52scene was happening. Finally, a happy, no conflict
- 5:55moment between Daphne and Emmett. It's been so
- 5:58long. It's been no conflict moment because she
- 6:01sees the shrine. Yeah, immediately. But it's just
- 6:04them like talking for two seconds. And I was
- 6:06like, oh, so happy to see my besties back together.
- 6:09And then immediately they're planning a fundraiser
- 6:12for Carlton. Yes. Emmett lets her talk and talk
- 6:15about her ideas. And then she shows him a little
- 6:18drawing she made for the t -shirts. And can I
- 6:21just say, the drawing, she's like, this is a rough
- 6:24sketch. And it's like, it's cute. It's like hands
- 6:26fingerspelling Carlton. And then it says Carlton
- 6:28could use a hand. That's cute. It's really cute.
- 6:31You know what, it's much better than Bay's sketches
- 6:33from last week. That is exactly what I was thinking.
- 6:35I was like wait is Daphne like a really good
- 6:37artist? She's Axe Girl. And we've just like
- 6:39never noticed it makes sense because like she
- 6:41grew up with Regina. Obviously some of that talent
- 6:44is natural but it's probably also fostered. Yeah.
- 6:46By having a mom who's an artist and I was like
- 6:50wait those are really good and we just focus
- 6:52on them for a second but I was like huh those
- 6:55are way better than Bay's sketches sorry to Bay.
- 6:57And then Emmett says throw that shit out because
- 6:59we're doing a car wash fundraiser because I already
- 7:02talked to Bay. It's done. Well first he says I talked
- 7:04to John and I'm like that is so weird for so
- 7:07many reasons I understand. He talked to John? Yeah he said
- 7:10I talked to John already it's done. And Daphne
- 7:12gets prickly immediately. Can you imagine if I
- 7:15was like Kara, don't worry. I talked to your
- 7:17mom. It's all sorted out. My, how'd you talk
- 7:19to my mother? Right. Like so many questions.
- 7:22Also, why would you talk to my mom without going
- 7:24through me? Like what kind of relationship do
- 7:27you guys have? And I also feel I have spent more
- 7:29time with your mother than Emmett has spent with
- 7:32John. Anyway, Emmett's like, I talked to Bay.
- 7:35Why would he do anything through Bay when he
- 7:38and Daphne are co -organizing the fundraiser?
- 7:41Why wouldn't he have just gone through Daphne?
- 7:43I bet he just mentioned it offhand to Bay and
- 7:46then Bay was like, oh, I have an idea. Let's
- 7:49just use our family car wash. And then she went
- 7:52to John. Yeah, Bay was probably really gungho
- 7:55about being able to help. Yeah, I think that's
- 7:57what she wanted to do. That seems very Bay. But
- 7:59yeah, so Daphne's like, what the hell? And then
- 8:02she looks behind her and she has been replaced
- 8:05on the shrine. The Daphne shrine is gone. It
- 8:08is almost as if he has cut off the head of Daphne
- 8:11in photos and like pasted Bay on. Um also they're
- 8:17all from like two days because they've only been
- 8:19dating for like two weeks. It's all like the junkyard
- 8:21photo shoot and then maybe one other photo shoot.
- 8:24Yeah that's it. I think it's, I think it was two
- 8:28episodes ago where Daphne is drunk from hanging
- 8:31out with Wilke and she spends the night at Emmett's
- 8:33house. And then she finds those photos from the
- 8:35junkyard printed and on the table. And she's
- 8:37like, what the hell? And we were like, why would
- 8:39you just have those printed photos out? It's
- 8:41because Emmett went to the photo shop and like
- 8:43printed the photos out because he was intending
- 8:46to replace. He went to CVS and printed out those
- 8:49Kodak pictures. Man, that boy was ready. He was
- 8:52like, OK, swap them out. And then Emmett's like,
- 8:55wait, Bay didn't talk to you? Because Daphne's
- 8:57like, why the hell? Do you have so many photos
- 9:00of her up? And he's like, because I guess the
- 9:01last time Emmett saw Bay, she was like, I'm going
- 9:04to go and tell Daphne right now that we're together.
- 9:06After the billboard. Yeah. And then he was like,
- 9:08cool. And then you just never followed up? I
- 9:11guess they never followed up. Maybe it's only
- 9:13been one day? I still feel like I would have
- 9:15shot a text like, hey, how'd it go? I would be
- 9:18very curious. Yeah. But no. Again, the show is
- 9:22so bad at explaining the timeline. We get some timeline
- 9:25info in just a second though so hold on because
- 9:28I was really excited about it. Okay. So does he
- 9:31tell Daphne in that scene I am dating Bay. Yes.
- 9:34Okay. He's like Bay didn't talk to you? And Daphne's
- 9:36like no and Emmett's like, he goes oh we and she
- 9:39just stops him she goes hold on yeah she's like
- 9:42hold on you told me like two weeks ago that if
- 9:45is it Brooklyn Decker is that the supermodel
- 9:47he's always? Yes. If Brooklyn Decker like came
- 9:50down from the heavens and asked to be your girlfriend,
- 9:53you would wait for a deaf girl and Emmett goes
- 9:56I did wait. Mic drop. He's like I did wait and
- 10:01there's just like a moment of like a pause where
- 10:04Daphne like lets that sink in. So good. Um and
- 10:08she's basically just like no I don't like this
- 10:10whatever storms out. Okay. And then Bay. She is
- 10:14grinning ear to ear at her art show at Buckner.
- 10:18Yeah. There's some art show at Buckner. It feels
- 10:21very random. Like this is the first we've heard
- 10:23of it. I don't know. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. She
- 10:26also looks really cute. She has a little butterfly
- 10:28clips in her ears. I like the like space bun
- 10:30situation going on. She does. This is a rare
- 10:33Bay outfit that I actually quite like. Yeah.
- 10:36This was a favorite. Yeah. Yeah. No one's outfit
- 10:39like super offended me this episode. Yeah. Except
- 10:42for Toby's vest but we'll get into that later.
- 10:45Bay is presenting her art at this art show and this
- 10:48man comes up out of nowhere. He's looking at her
- 10:51art he's like this is pretty cool. The two of
- 10:54them get chatting and then. Side note he's gorgeous.
- 10:57Sure. We have to talk about. He has like a nice
- 11:01little accent. French? French accent. Yeah I think
- 11:03so. But he doesn't even introduce himself. No. He
- 11:06just says hey. She, he notices that she has a guitar
- 11:10pick around her wrist. So she's wearing Angelo's
- 11:14guitar pick as a bracelet around her wrist. Yes.
- 11:17And he's like, wonder where you got my lucky
- 11:19guitar pick. And that's how he reveals that he
- 11:22is Angelo. That is crazy. He is such a bad father
- 11:25figure. But as like a man, swoon, unfortunately
- 11:29for me, I'm like, it would work on me. What,
- 11:32as your dad? No, as a man. Okay. As, like, a
- 11:36romantic man. Like, I understand, like, later
- 11:38on in the episode, I feel like Regina's like,
- 11:40I hate this man. And then every time he goes
- 11:41to talk to her, she's like, okay. And I get it.
- 11:44Sure. I get it. He's gorgeous. Anyways, we should
- 11:48probably say Angelo's played by the French actor.
- 11:50I'm going to butcher his first name. Giles? Gilles?
- 11:53Marini? Oh. Gilles Marini? I don't know either.
- 11:57I think I've always said Giles, but... I could
- 12:00be wrong. That didn't sound French, though. Gilles.
- 12:02Gilles. Well, I didn't take French in high school.
- 12:05I took Italian. Me neither. I took Spanish. Also,
- 12:07school just let in a strange man? I think the
- 12:10event is an art show, but then later on, Kathryn's
- 12:14like, honey, come sign up for the celebrity golf
- 12:17tournament. So I think it's like a fundraiser
- 12:19for the school or like an open house kind of
- 12:21event. He says later he saw that the art show
- 12:24was happening in the paper or something in like
- 12:26local events. So he was like, it's not like I
- 12:28was weird. It was like open to anybody. Yeah this
- 12:31man loves the local Kansas news. Yeah he is reading
- 12:34that newspaper, he is supporting local media for
- 12:38sure. He's supporting the Kansas City Herald, he's
- 12:41supporting whatever paper that. Chicago Tribune
- 12:44I think. Chicago Tribune and whatever said that
- 12:48the Buckner art celebration was happening. But
- 12:50um then John comes up because he's like oh who's
- 12:53this man talking to my daughter. And then Angelo
- 12:56introduces himself as a gallery owner. No, Bay
- 12:59does. Bay does. Angelo was gonna, I think Angelo
- 13:02was gonna be like, I'm dad. I'm, yeah, I'm the
- 13:05dad. Crazy. I'm the daddy. But John is like,
- 13:10who is this, honey? And Bay's like, a gallery
- 13:12owner. Which I think is the right thing to do.
- 13:14Judging by his reaction later, yes, it was. You're
- 13:18in public. This is not the time. I did make a
- 13:20note because like my one issue with, it's not
- 13:23Angelo as a character. I do think it's a little.
- 13:26It's like the actor's fault, but I don't think
- 13:28he can help it. He is so... I've only ever seen
- 13:31him play like... He's very charismatic. Charismatic,
- 13:34charming, sexy men. Yes. But I like have a hard
- 13:37time believing him as a dad because even when
- 13:41he's like, it's nice to meet you, sweetheart.
- 13:43It like feels flirty to me the way he says it.
- 13:46It's so odd. Even though it's not. And I think
- 13:49it is genuinely just that this man, this actor,
- 13:51Giles, Gills, has like a raw... charisma that
- 13:55cannot be. He's not dad, he's not daddy. He's not
- 13:59a dad, he's daddy. He's not dad he's daddy. Yeah.
- 14:02Yeah interesting casting but that works because
- 14:06he was never going to be dad. Because then their
- 14:09next interaction is like at the hotel bar. Yeah.
- 14:12I'm like that is a weird place to meet your teenage
- 14:15daughter. It's so strange. Like other people in
- 14:17that bar probably think that something like salacious
- 14:21is going down. Yeah. So after Buckner, John and
- 14:24Kathryn are with their lawyer talking about
- 14:27the hospital case. And apparently the hospital
- 14:29has reduced their offer and they want to do a
- 14:32no fault clause. As in, it's not their fault that
- 14:36the babies were switched to birth. That's kind
- 14:38of it. Next, we're at Geraldo's salon. Regina's
- 14:42there. Regina's there. None the wiser to anything
- 14:45going on. None the wiser. She's just like, so
- 14:47excited to get my check. And I think this is
- 14:50her first paycheck. Yes. Because she seems confused.
- 14:53Okay. So this is her first paycheck. And this
- 14:55is where we get the timeline check. Okay. Because
- 14:59she says this is for a whole month. So she's
- 15:02worked there at least a month. Okay. And I feel
- 15:04like she started at Geraldo's like one or two
- 15:07weeks after moving in to the Kennishes. Okay.
- 15:11So I'm putting us at about six weeks. Later on
- 15:13in the episode, Kathryn does say, quote, dealing
- 15:16with Regina all these past months. But I think
- 15:19that between finding out the girls were switched
- 15:22and them coming over that first time, there was,
- 15:25like, a couple of weeks. But they don't tell
- 15:27us that. In the, like, pilot episode, they kind
- 15:30of imply it's been, like, some time. Right. I
- 15:34think it's been a few. Since they've met. Okay.
- 15:35So since they've initially found out. Yeah. And
- 15:39then since they're now coming over to the Kennish
- 15:41house. So I think, like, that we can maybe say,
- 15:44like, two weeks max. And then. Maybe a week between
- 15:48that meeting and when Daphne is, like, Regina
- 15:52can't pay rent. So we're going to have to, like,
- 15:53move out of state. And then they move in. And
- 15:56then it's been. So, like, I think at max it's
- 15:59been, like, two months and one week. That is,
- 16:01like, the max. So when Kathryn says, like,
- 16:03all these months, she really just means two months.
- 16:05Okay. Good to know. I feel like I need to draw
- 16:09a physical timeline for myself. Okay. Like, red
- 16:12tape all over the walls. As to what's going on.
- 16:15Make a great post on the Instagram. Thank you.
- 16:18And then she opens the check and she's like,
- 16:20what the fuck? Also, you didn't know beforehand,
- 16:22you didn't discuss your contract with the salon?
- 16:25Yeah, I don't know. You would sign a contract
- 16:27with the salon for your chair, would you not?
- 16:30You wouldn't know how much the salon has taken
- 16:32out. To be fair, if I look into the details of
- 16:36what gets taken out of my paycheck, even though
- 16:38it's the same every time, I get angry the same
- 16:41amount every time. Right. When I'm like, wow,
- 16:43that's so much of my money gone. Well, she was
- 16:46like, Geraldo, you took 60 % of my paycheck.
- 16:48And he's like, sorry, girl. Yeah, he's basically
- 16:50like, yeah, that's how it works. It's been a
- 16:52while. Regina, we're going to jump ahead a minute
- 16:55because Regina's solution to this, can we just
- 16:57talk about this? HJer whole solution to this right
- 17:00now. Her whole solution is, you know what, I'm gonna
- 17:02open my own salon. This. As if it's the easiest
- 17:05thing you can do. Not only that and I understand
- 17:09it's kind of a plot device to give her a reason
- 17:11to need the money from the court case but like
- 17:14her going from in two months, from I'm so broke
- 17:20I can't pay rent, I'm like months behind on my
- 17:22rent to I have a solid steady job at a salon
- 17:26that yeah I guess the pay is not as good as she
- 17:29was hoping, but she also a couple of weeks back
- 17:32said like to Daphne. When Daphne's trying to
- 17:34have a serious conversation, Regina's like, these
- 17:36Mission Hills ladies are good tippers. But also,
- 17:39this is her first paycheck. She doesn't have
- 17:41the money for a salon. Exactly. So that's what
- 17:43I'm saying is like for her to be like, finally,
- 17:45a place where I have a stable job, that is great.
- 17:48And I'm like doing well and I don't have to pay
- 17:50rent. You know what would be awesome for me to
- 17:52do right now? Take out a loan, a small business
- 17:55loan, open up my own business with all my spare
- 17:58time that I have from not hanging out with either
- 18:01of my daughters who really need my support right
- 18:03now and I'm just gonna like girl boss my way
- 18:06into my own business. And then she says to Adriana,
- 18:09my clients are pretty loyal I think they'd follow
- 18:13me. Your clients that you've had for one month?
- 18:17You've cut their hair once. Yeah how often are
- 18:20you going to them in the span of a month? Like
- 18:23it just it doesn't make any sense it just makes
- 18:26me be like is Regina dumb? And the bank is like
- 18:29yes you're dumb. Yeah. Yes you're dumb. And Kathryn
- 18:32says to her when she finds out like, congratulations
- 18:35at least you know what you want to do like that's
- 18:37half the battle. I don't, it shocks me that Kathryn
- 18:40is so supportive of it because I think she would
- 18:42be like girl like you have bigger fish to fry,
- 18:45I don't know. With what money? With what money
- 18:48with what like consistency, responsibility. The
- 18:51bank even says you have a crappy credit history.
- 18:54Yeah. We're not giving you a loan. And you have
- 18:57no collateral. Nothing. She says my collateral
- 18:59is my track record and my clients of like the
- 19:02last 10 years. And the bank basically laughs
- 19:04at her. It feels so unearned of her to be like,
- 19:06I've worked for this. Like I could see her being
- 19:08like, I'm going to go back to working out of
- 19:10the Kennish house and just like work it out with
- 19:12Kathryn. Yeah, you could have done that. Yeah,
- 19:14you totally could have done that. And you would
- 19:15get your whole income. But she wants a girl boss
- 19:18arc, whatever. Pisses me off. Anyway, the storyline
- 19:21is so weird. I'm going to like mostly ignore
- 19:24that for the rest of the episode. And then Bay
- 19:27comes back to the house and Daphne is waiting
- 19:30outside to ambush her about Emmett. Daphne's
- 19:33like, when were you going to tell me about Emmett?
- 19:34And Bay's like, oh, I meant to last night. But
- 19:37then remember how you told me you had a crush
- 19:39on him now? Right. And she's obviously pissed.
- 19:42Also, Bay came home hoping to tell her about
- 19:44Angelo. And then they fight. And so then. Bay's
- 19:48like well now I'm not going to tell you about
- 19:49Angelo. She says like I'm sorry there wasn't a
- 19:54good time to tell you but I should have. And she
- 19:57does should have up on her forehead. And I'd never
- 20:00seen it up there. It should not be up there. Okay.
- 20:03So I guess I guess a problem that I have with
- 20:07this phase of the show is they might have had
- 20:09her sign it wrong on purpose? I think she did
- 20:12that so it was in the camera frame. No, it's a
- 20:15wide shot of her. It's a wide shot? It's a really
- 20:17wide shot. Okay. Because I was like, oh my God,
- 20:20have I been signing should wrong this whole time?
- 20:23Bay's signing it wrong. And maybe they did
- 20:25it on purpose to be like, she's not perfect.
- 20:28She's not perfect. But then it would have been
- 20:30good to have Daphne go, that's wrong. And fuck
- 20:34you. Like to be like, fuck you, bitch. And you're
- 20:37signing it wrong. Like it would have been a good
- 20:39opportunity for her to be like, how can you and
- 20:41Emmett be together if you can't even remember
- 20:43the sign for should? I don't know. That would
- 20:45have been great. Yeah. So that one has been bothering
- 20:48me before we watched that. I watched this episode.
- 20:50I was thinking of the way she had signed should
- 20:52in this episode because I remember watching it
- 20:54in real time and being like, that was wrong.
- 20:56Okay. Yeah, you're right. Okay. And then this
- 20:59is where there's a Twilight reference. Go on.
- 21:02I texted Kara last night at 2 a .m. when I was
- 21:05watching this episode, all caps, Twilight reference.
- 21:07And I have been, if any of you listening, are
- 21:10on the Switched at Birth Reddit. There is a long
- 21:13thread going being like, I feel like there's
- 21:16a lot of Twilight comparison. And I have been
- 21:18in there a lot being like, you are so right.
- 21:20Here are all the ones that I've found so far.
- 21:22This is awesome. So Daphne, I think it's also
- 21:26because it's 2011, right? So it's like peak Twilight
- 21:28time. It was on the writers' minds. Daphne's
- 21:31like, you will never know him. And Bay says,
- 21:34if vampires can date humans, then I think that
- 21:37deaf people can date hearing people. So true,
- 21:40queen. Thank you, Bay. This is such a good callback
- 21:43to us talking about the deaf -hearing divorce
- 21:46rate last episode. Bay said, stop it. It's allowed.
- 21:49Interabled couples are valid. That truly is
- 21:52what Edward and Bella are. They're an interabled.
- 21:55Interabled? Yeah. Who has the disability? Well,
- 21:59Bella, because she's human. Yeah. And to Edward,
- 22:02who's got super strength and super speed and
- 22:05super sight and super smell and super hearing.
- 22:07Right. Poor Bella. And is immortal. He's constantly
- 22:10like, you're so breakable. You're so fragile.
- 22:12You can't even do anything. I can't even have
- 22:14sex with you. Yeah. No, he's, okay, he's literally
- 22:17being so ableist. Actually, wait. Edward Cullen
- 22:20canceled in 2025. Ableist behavior. But he kind
- 22:24of fetishizes it. Oh, wow. There's a lot to talk
- 22:27about here. Okay. Wow. Disability. We're going
- 22:30to move on. Twilight through a disability lens.
- 22:32New podcast. Oh, my God. I don't think I can
- 22:36make it personally, but I would love to facilitate
- 22:38that. Someone, if you would like to do that,
- 22:41go right ahead. So yeah. And then Daphne's like,
- 22:43he's my best friend. Can you find anybody else?
- 22:46I think that's a fair initial reaction. Right.
- 22:49Considering all the stuff that happened with
- 22:51Liam, even though Bay didn't explicitly, continuously
- 22:54ask Daphne to break up with Liam. She did ask
- 22:57once and then kept sort of indicating it. So
- 23:01I think it's fair for Daphne to be like, that's
- 23:03my best friend, even though. She hasn't really
- 23:06been giving a fuck about him for a couple of
- 23:07episodes now. But whatever. And Bay's like, no.
- 23:10It's too late. It's too late. They have heart
- 23:13eyes for each other. The ship has sailed. Yeah.
- 23:15And then next scene, Wilke is back. Thank God.
- 23:18I know. Thank God. And I guess the boys are back
- 23:21in school. Their suspension is done. Done. Toby
- 23:24makes an Olivia Wilde reference. What? Yeah.
- 23:27He says, which this really dated it because I
- 23:30was like, oh, yeah, this is around Tron era.
- 23:33And Wilke's like, you'll never guess. Like,
- 23:35I have great news. And Toby's like, unless you're
- 23:37about to tell me that Olivia Wilde's car has
- 23:39broken down in front of my house and that she,
- 23:42like, wants to go on a date with me, like, I
- 23:45don't care about what you have to say. But guess
- 23:47what? It's even better. We're playing at East
- 23:49West Fest. East West Fest! I think that's a fun
- 23:52name for a festival. It is fun. East West Fest.
- 23:54Wilke's like, yeah, I used the deaf angle. The
- 23:57deaf drummer angle to get us in and they loved
- 24:00it. They loved it and so he's like remember our
- 24:03drummer? Our deaf drummer whose name I can't remember?
- 24:06Oh I knew it was a guy from Twilight. Yeah. Yeah
- 24:10and he said Guitar Face we're playing including
- 24:12Emmett so figure it out. Yeah we gotta get Emmett.
- 24:16And then Bay is venting to Emmett about Angelo
- 24:19showing up. Yeah, he's sitting on top of her car
- 24:22eating a sandwich that looks really good. It
- 24:24does look really good. She's pacing so much.
- 24:26There's no way he's catching. He could not read
- 24:27her lips. Yeah. There's no way. She's, like,
- 24:29pacing away from him. But I kind of like that
- 24:31he's like, I'm going to let her. Let her rant.
- 24:33I'm going to let her rant. Yeah, it's fine. Like,
- 24:36I get the gist. Yeah, I was. I think he was like,
- 24:39okay, she met her dad and she's probably feeling
- 24:42some feelings about, I'm gonna eat my sandwich.
- 24:43But then she does go see Angelo. Yeah. They're
- 24:46at the hotel restaurant, or a bar. Again, strange,
- 24:49I don't know. Weird place to meet. I don't know,
- 24:52maybe go to like a cafe. I was gonna say a cafe.
- 24:54It's very much a bar. It's like not even a restaurant.
- 24:57Yeah, yeah. He's like drinking a beer. It's weird.
- 25:01But Bay goes to see Angelo and he says, I love
- 25:04local media. I found out about the switch on,
- 25:08I guess, the Kansas City Herald. And that's how
- 25:11I found out about you. And I knew I had to go
- 25:13see you. It's like a very mystical story. He's
- 25:16like, there was a man on a train reading the
- 25:19paper. And then he left the paper. And I picked
- 25:21up the paper. Was he in Kansas? He was in Chicago,
- 25:24right? He was in Chicago. It was in the Chicago
- 25:25Tribune, I think. He was like, there was a little
- 25:28blurb on it. Huh. And then... okay sure. And then
- 25:31he like did more digging I guess I don't know.
- 25:34He probably did a little search on search berzerk
- 25:36dot com. I think he's lying. Really? Yeah that's
- 25:40my theory that's too, well you were on a train
- 25:43and you just happened to pick up the paper that
- 25:46the guy sat down. Well how would you think he
- 25:48found out? What's another way? Maybe he just googles
- 25:51Regina once in a while to see what she's up to?
- 25:53I don't know but I I mean there's a lot of comments
- 25:57like, Regina says like oh now that you have a
- 25:59rich daughter you're like coming back around
- 26:01so, I do wonder if he had it in the back of his
- 26:07mind a little bit? I do also think maybe he was
- 26:10keeping tabs on them a little bit because he
- 26:12says later on in the episode and we'll get to
- 26:14it because I have a lot of feelings about it
- 26:16but he says like I wanted to keep in contact
- 26:17with you and you were the one that. And Regina
- 26:20pushed him away. Yeah that pushed me away and
- 26:22shut me out. I do wonder if. That is an interesting
- 26:25story. It's possible he does see it in the paper,
- 26:27whatever. He loves local media. But I bet he
- 26:31just does a Google search of Regina maybe every
- 26:34few months to see what she's up to, and then
- 26:37boom, that article came up. Yeah. One day, and
- 26:41then he was like, bam, okay. Cha -ching. Cha
- 26:43-ching, yeah. Bay asks, so what ethnicities am
- 26:47I? And he goes... A little Italian, some French,
- 26:51some Algerian. And then she goes, like, I'm Arab?
- 26:54Cool. Yeah, Bay is really stoked. She's a quarter
- 26:58Puerto Rican. She would have loved 23andMe. Oh,
- 27:01my God. We should have added that to her Christmas
- 27:04gift list. She would have loved 23andMe. You're
- 27:08right. She just wants to know down to the percentage
- 27:11point, like, what she is. So then John and Emmett
- 27:14are planning the car wash fundraiser. Again,
- 27:18it's so funny that Emmett's the one like coordinating
- 27:21that aspect and not Daphne, his daughter. No.
- 27:25Emmett's like, will there be a sign? And John's
- 27:27like, I don't know what he's saying. Can somebody
- 27:30help me? Well, he's being very obvious, John.
- 27:33You're dumb. Literally drawing a box in the air.
- 27:35Giant box in the air. And mouthing sign. Yes.
- 27:39Again, Emmett is a very clear signer. So clear.
- 27:42It's so clear to understand him. Even if you
- 27:45don't know a lick of ASL, if you met Emmett,
- 27:47you would be able to have a conversation with
- 27:49him. He's very easy to understand. Yeah. So anyway.
- 27:53He gets Daphne to interpret. He gets Daphne to
- 27:55interpret the word sign. And then John's like,
- 27:58buddy, I got a banner coming tomorrow. Hell yeah.
- 28:02Hell yeah. But Daphne also doesn't want to be
- 28:05involved because she's mad at Emmett. Yeah. So
- 28:07then you realize, yeah, she's like. Ma ma Ma and
- 28:09John's like, Emmett, can you fill her in on the
- 28:11instructions? I do love sassy Daphne that Emmett's
- 28:15like, so the cars, they're going to roll down.
- 28:17She's like, wash car, dry car. I get it. Yeah.
- 28:18She's like, whatever. Okay. This is my favorite
- 28:21part of the episode. Okay. So she tries to walk
- 28:26away from him and Emmett's like, no, girl, we're
- 28:28going to have it out. Pulls her into the car
- 28:31wash. They're in front of the car wash. They're
- 28:33like in front of it. But I just mean like they're
- 28:34like, it's a dramatic background. Yes. And. He's
- 28:38like, okay, what's going on? Let's have it out.
- 28:41Let's hash shit out right now. And she's like,
- 28:43I can't. And then she's like, I started to think
- 28:47that maybe you and I, and he's like, stop. I
- 28:51don't want to hear it. Enough. And then they
- 28:53do this really great split screen. Well, it's
- 28:56not split screen, but it's like they both, they
- 28:58caption both of them at the same time simultaneously
- 29:00on the screen together as they're both, because
- 29:04they're both signing at each other so fast. Yelling
- 29:08at each other basically. But it's just like very
- 29:10satisfying to watch. I love when they do that.
- 29:13And he's like don't do this to me I waited for
- 29:17you for eight years. Which is crazy for him to
- 29:20say out loud. Well that's their whole friendship
- 29:21so I'm kind of like. Since they were eight years
- 29:23old? Yeah I'm like I'm gonna I mean you maybe
- 29:26loved her when you were eight years old but like
- 29:28you guys weren't gonna date when you were eight
- 29:29years. Right. You could be like for the past year
- 29:32and a half I've been trying to hook up and you
- 29:34haven't wanted to whatever yeah but he's like
- 29:36I waited eight years for you, fuck you basically.
- 29:39And she's like okay well now you're with my sister
- 29:44like that's fucked up and then. They kiss in front
- 29:47of the car wash. First of all this gagged me when
- 29:49I watched it yes I remember I was at my friend's
- 29:53house and we were like all watching and we were
- 29:55screaming. They kiss. I always felt when I watched
- 29:58it like it was Daphne pulling him in to kiss
- 30:01him but watching it last night it's totally Emmett.
- 30:05It's Emmett? It's totally Emmett. I mean it's both
- 30:08of them. It's both of them but it's more maybe
- 30:10more Emmett than it is Daphne. Wow. By like a lot.
- 30:13I always thought it was like Daphne is like no
- 30:17come on let's kiss like let me prove it to you
- 30:19because then he stops her and he's like I'm with
- 30:21Bay. But it's totally him being like, all right,
- 30:23let's just see if it works real quick. Yeah,
- 30:25why not? And I think this is fine because no
- 30:29one tells Bay in this episode. I don't remember
- 30:31if she ever finds out. I don't think she ever
- 30:33finds out. But in this episode, no one tells
- 30:35her. Yes. I guess I wanted your thoughts on it.
- 30:37I think personally that if you have had a slow
- 30:42burn crush on someone. that you have known for
- 30:46eight plus years who is a huge aspect of your
- 30:48life and we have been dating for like two weeks
- 30:50and it's a point of contention in your friendship
- 30:53and you guys have a moment of like, should we
- 30:56just see real quick if this like, you guys have
- 30:59an in the moment passionate kiss that's like
- 31:02a build -up of eight years of tension and friendship
- 31:05that I haven't been present for at all. Like I
- 31:08think that's fine. I think I'd rather that happen
- 31:10now. Than like six months down the line, like
- 31:14they've been dating for two seconds. They're
- 31:16not even like boyfriend, girlfriend. But what
- 31:19do you think? I feel like by your face, you do
- 31:21not agree. I'm afraid A is going to listen to
- 31:24this and be like, Kara promotes cheating. I think
- 31:27what makes me mad is when people are like, blanket,
- 31:29that's cheating. And I'm like, every cheating
- 31:32scenario involves so much context. Yes. That
- 31:36really only the people involved in the scenario
- 31:38can fully understand. Not to, like, defend cheaters,
- 31:42but, like, cheating is a personal crime. It's
- 31:45not, like, a public crime. No, it's not. It's
- 31:48not a federal crime. I agree. I think I'm having
- 31:50trouble with this because I know what Emmett
- 31:53does eventually. Yes. I'm not, oh my god, no.
- 31:56That's so different from, I'm just talking about
- 31:59this specific. This specific moment. And I'm
- 32:01not even talking about him. I'm trying to think
- 32:03of, like, if I were Bay, would I want to know?
- 32:05I guess that's my question for you. Is, like,
- 32:08would you want to know? No. Ignorance is
- 32:11bliss. Yeah. No, I don't think so. It's so different
- 32:15because they're 16 years old as compared to like
- 32:17if they were forty years old. Yeah. Wait, in which
- 32:20direction? As in like, I think it's more permissible
- 32:23at that age because they're young and they're
- 32:25stupid and they're still testing things out and
- 32:27they still don't know what they want. Yeah, I
- 32:29don't know. I think I get why they did it. Might
- 32:33as well kiss and see what happens. And if it
- 32:35works out, then... Right, if they kissed and
- 32:38there was like an amazing spark. Then he'd have
- 32:40to be like, okay, fuck, like, let me go end things
- 32:43with Bay. Yeah. This makes sense. But he was
- 32:47like, no, I'm with Bay. And then that was it.
- 32:50Great. Then that's fine with me. I feel like
- 32:52now that they've kissed, the tension's gone.
- 32:54The tension's gone and he realizes, wait, nah.
- 32:57Yeah, now there's not like a fantasy what if
- 32:59in his head. Yeah. But also, but then he does
- 33:02end up getting grumpy and lashing out. That's
- 33:05true. He does. Is it because he regrets his decision
- 33:08or is it because he knows he did something wrong
- 33:10and then he's taking it out on Bay? So I think
- 33:13it's because he realized that this is it. He's
- 33:17made the commitment. He's chosen Bay. Okay. And
- 33:20because he's realized that, I'm not saying he's
- 33:23got like buyer's remorse, but I think he's just
- 33:26like, I have committed to the hearing girl. I
- 33:28just rejected my deaf best friend that I've been
- 33:31pining after for eight years. I just admitted
- 33:33to her that I've been pining after her for eight
- 33:35years and now I'm seeing my hearing girlfriend
- 33:40or person that I'm dating I don't think she counts
- 33:43as his girlfriend yet I don't know um. Who is
- 33:46in that moment Bay's kind of being inconsiderate
- 33:48too. Like at the car wash. The next day at the
- 33:52car wash, Toby and Wilke show up. Yes. Looking
- 33:55to convince Emmett like look see we're nice we'll
- 33:58like help with your fundraiser and then you'll
- 34:00come do our concert. Yeah basically. Very transactional
- 34:03about it. And so they're goofing off. They're
- 34:05actually not helping. And Toby bets Wilke 20
- 34:09bucks that he will run all the way through the
- 34:11car wash. So Wilke does it. Side note. You'd
- 34:14be beat up if you ran through the car wash. Oh,
- 34:17I was just going to say that. Yeah, he's Austin.
- 34:19Wilke, Austin Butler in a soaking wet t -shirt.
- 34:21Very hot. I know he was like probably in his
- 34:2420s when he did this role. But like, no man
- 34:27looks like that. Like I was like that is fucking
- 34:29crazy. He looks like an Avenger. It's insane I
- 34:34know it was jarring. It was like pornographic.
- 34:36Um he runs through the car wash and he doesn't
- 34:40get beat up. No. Those brushes are tough he doesn't
- 34:43get burned by the hot wax. Well that's what he
- 34:45says is he bails out at the hot wax because. He
- 34:47doesn't get cuts and bruises? No so they're like
- 34:49you didn't make it all the way through they're
- 34:51arguing over whether or not he deserves the 20 dollars
- 34:53and they're all laughing and talking over each
- 34:57other. And Emmett's doing his own thing. He's
- 34:59not involved. He's like walking by them. And
- 35:02Bay pulls him into the conversation and then
- 35:04signs Toby and then is like, oh, what's the word
- 35:09for or what's the sign for bet? Which I didn't
- 35:11know. I didn't know the sign for bet either.
- 35:13They don't they also don't tell us what it is.
- 35:15Bet. Yeah. Oh, like a poker. So it's a bet. Bs
- 35:19on both hands and then you flip them over like
- 35:22pancakes. Cute. Try and describe this. I guess this
- 35:25is an audio format. She doesn't remember the sign
- 35:27so she's finger spells BET. Also I hate her B.
- 35:30Her B is like so she goes bet but like it's, can
- 35:34you describe to the audience? Sorry, it's like
- 35:35thumb in, all four fingers like sprawled as wide
- 35:40as they can go. And not together like it should
- 35:43be. Yeah so like the B is wrong. As she's talking,
- 35:45she said, Toby bet Wilke $20 that he wouldn't
- 35:48run through the car wash. But she only signs
- 35:50fucking Toby, B -E -T, car. Yeah. And then. Emmett's
- 35:54not getting any of the story. Emmett's not getting
- 35:55any of it. Wilke's like, no, no, no, I got it.
- 35:57Starts yelling at him, talking over Bay. And
- 36:01Emmett's like, absolutely not. And just like
- 36:03walks away. Not the time. Yeah. And Bay comes
- 36:06after him and is like, what the heck? And he's
- 36:09like, she's like, why are you mad? And he's like,
- 36:11you didn't remember the sign for bet. Okay. I
- 36:14wasn't super happy with him. I wasn't happy with
- 36:16anyone at this moment because one, Bay wasn't
- 36:18being considerate. Yeah. But also, it's been
- 36:21two weeks. And she says that that's not really
- 36:24why he's mad. It's not why he's mad, but he is
- 36:27taking it out on her. And she says, I've been
- 36:29learning to sign for two weeks. I never learned
- 36:31to sign for bet. Did you? I only learned it from
- 36:34signing with other people. You just had to teach
- 36:36it to me just now. Yeah. But I think he's...
- 36:39more so mad about like this is where I gave up
- 36:43and being pulled into an interaction that she
- 36:46pulls him in and then she's not ready to like
- 36:49to make him comfortable in there? Yeah. So it's
- 36:51like then don't pull me into that. If you're not
- 36:53gonna make the conversation accessible to me
- 36:55then don't involve me. But then he goes on to
- 36:58further say like you're just gonna drop ASL like
- 37:01you drop everything else. Yeah. And I don't want
- 37:03to pretend to understand hearing people. I don't
- 37:06want you to be my interpreter. Yeah. Yeah he unleashes
- 37:09a lot of like fears on her that he has about
- 37:12this relationship all at once yeah and Bay catches
- 37:14on like oh, you have talked to Daphne. I wanted
- 37:17to ask you if you thought that she was catching
- 37:20everything he was saying too because he's signing
- 37:22like slow but not as slow as usual like still
- 37:26pretty fast and he's like saying a lot and I
- 37:29feel like she's like staring at him and then
- 37:31she's like you talked to Daphne didn't you. And
- 37:34that's her only takeaway. Which, if I was Emmett,
- 37:36that would piss me off. Even though she's right.
- 37:38Yeah. Like, even though she's right, the fact
- 37:40that she ignores, like, he's just shared a lot
- 37:42of really real fears with her. Mm -hmm. Oh, and
- 37:45she doesn't, like... And she just makes it about
- 37:47Daphne. Yeah. Instead of being, like... It is
- 37:49about Daphne. But it is and it isn't. Like, Daphne
- 37:52is involved, but then there is also, like, Bay
- 37:55earlier says to Toby, because Toby's like...
- 37:58why are you here and Bay's like me and Emmett
- 38:01are kind of, she makes these weird eyes at Toby
- 38:04to like imply that they're dating but I'm like
- 38:07why would you make those eyes at your brother,
- 38:09I hate that, but. And he's like oh how do you guys
- 38:12communicate? She's like I'm learning to sign and
- 38:16he's like I thought he doesn't hang out with
- 38:17hearing people? What does that make you? And she
- 38:20says special. I'm different I'm not like other
- 38:23girls. Yeah I hate it and it makes me think like
- 38:26it kind of adds a little bit of weight to what
- 38:29Emmett is saying. Yes. Like she's not taking it seriously
- 38:32enough maybe? Like she deserves an award for being
- 38:36this hearing girl who's learning. I think it's just
- 38:38that like she truly doesn't understand the weight
- 38:41of the relationship that there may be. No and
- 38:43also she wasn't planning on learning really yeah
- 38:46or as learning as much because she did ask Emmett
- 38:50two episodes ago, do you speak? Do you ever speak?
- 38:54Yes. And then he had to be the one to say, no,
- 38:57girl. Yeah, you're going to learn to sign. I
- 38:59don't know. I just, like, I don't know. It's
- 39:02frustrating on all ends. Yeah. I understand his
- 39:05feelings. It's sort of in everybody's the asshole,
- 39:06but I, like, feel more empathy towards Emmett
- 39:09in this situation. I think I do, too. As the
- 39:12deaf person in this situation, I think I do,
- 39:14too. Because it's, I've been in several situations
- 39:17where I've been with hearing people and they're
- 39:20all cracking up and I don't know what's going
- 39:22on. And I'm like, ugh. Why am I here? Fuck this.
- 39:26Yeah. So, like, I get it. I get his frustrations
- 39:29and his fears. And that's something I've also
- 39:31worried about with my partner. Like, I don't
- 39:34want her to have to be the interpreter all the
- 39:36time. I want to be able to figure things out
- 39:39for myself. I don't want to, yeah, always have
- 39:42to rely on other people. Yeah, so I think. Emmett's
- 39:46valid. I don't think he should have crashed
- 39:47out on her like that. No, but it makes sense.
- 39:50Yeah. It makes more sense to me than what Bay
- 39:54is doing in the scene. Where are we? Because we
- 39:57kind of jumped ahead. I know we did. Okay so before the
- 40:01car wash, Bay invites Angelo. Sorry guys. Yeah. Before
- 40:05all of that happens but before the car wash fundraiser
- 40:10at least. Before Bay even goes to the car wash
- 40:12fundraiser, she invites Angelo to the Kennish
- 40:16house. And just introduces him to John and Kathryn.
- 40:19No warning. Yeah, I think they literally come
- 40:22from the hotel bar. I think so. And she goes,
- 40:25this is my bio dad. And I think John and Kathryn
- 40:28have a valid reaction, which is, what are you
- 40:31doing here? Like, why are you here? Yeah, they
- 40:34get really mad really fast. I don't know. I think
- 40:38he could have gone about it better. But I think
- 40:40no matter how he went about it, they would have
- 40:42crashed out like this. I don't think the best
- 40:45reaction would have been to be, furious like
- 40:47they are because yeah John especially is furious.
- 40:50John is fuming. Yeah and that's when you realize
- 40:53that like he's gotten to be the only dad so far
- 40:56in this. That's true. And he does not like that
- 40:59there's another one in the picture. Yeah he probably
- 41:02should have reached out to Regina first. Yeah.
- 41:04But I think he didn't because I think, I genuinely
- 41:07I think Regina would have ignored him and not
- 41:11told anybody that he even tried. Yeah. Like just
- 41:13knowing her. But yeah, John and Kathryn are
- 41:16furious. Like, what the hell are you doing here?
- 41:17And Angelo goes, I don't need your permission.
- 41:20You do, actually. You have no legal rights over
- 41:22Bay or Daphne. So I was going to ask, does he?
- 41:25No, he doesn't. Are we sure, though? So he's
- 41:29not biologically related to Daphne. Right. He
- 41:31doesn't have rights over Daphne. But like, does
- 41:33he have rights over Bay? I guess it gets confusing
- 41:35because he's not the man listed on the birth
- 41:37certificate. He's not on Bay's birth certificate.
- 41:41He is. That's what's wrong. He's on Daphne. You're
- 41:44right. He's on Daphne's. He's on Daphne's. But
- 41:47also he left. And I think because of that, Regina
- 41:50has sole custody. And also no court would ever
- 41:54allow him. No, that's definitely true that he
- 41:57couldn't. What? Is he going to go to court and
- 41:59be like, I've been away for 14 years? Yeah. I
- 42:03want to have custody of Daphne and also Bay,
- 42:06who I have also not talked to. No, definitely
- 42:09not. But he has no legal rights at this moment.
- 42:12He could fight for legal rights, but he's not
- 42:14going to win. But at this point, he does not
- 42:16have any legal rights. Yeah. Yeah. And then Daphne
- 42:19walks in. Daphne walks in and she doesn't know
- 42:22what's going on. All she sees is John and Kathryn
- 42:24and Bay and some strange man. Yeah. Who she does
- 42:27not know, all fighting. And she's like, whoa,
- 42:30what's going on? Yeah. She's like, who is this?
- 42:32Who is that? Who is that? Who is that? No one's
- 42:35listening to her. And then Bay just signs from
- 42:37the corner, our father. Yeah. And Daphne, yeah.
- 42:41I kind of love that she like walks out and then
- 42:44she walks right back in. I'm leaving. No, I'm
- 42:47not. She's like, hold on. And then Angelo's like,
- 42:50okay. He gives a pretty good speech until the
- 42:52end. For a minute, he's like, I'm sorry. I know
- 42:56that you don't like, there was a lot of reasons
- 42:58why I left, but none of them matter to you. All
- 43:00that you know is that your father left you and
- 43:02I'm so sorry. And I'm like here to make it up
- 43:04to you. And then he stops and then he fucks it
- 43:06all up. Fucks it all up. Because Daphne is processing.
- 43:10I can see it. I'm sure you could see it on her
- 43:12face. She's like, okay, this man has just showed
- 43:15up and said like a pretty good prepared speech.
- 43:18Yeah. I think she was expecting him to be speechless
- 43:21or say something stupid. And instead of letting
- 43:23her process, he goes. you don't understand anything
- 43:26I'm saying, do you? So do you think she actually
- 43:28did understand what he's saying? Yeah. Okay.
- 43:31Did you not? Well, part of me was like, he's
- 43:34a brand new man and he has a French accent. That's
- 43:36true. He's probably hard to lip read, actually. But
- 43:39then he says, you don't understand anything I'm
- 43:41saying, do you? And she looks him up and down
- 43:43and she goes, no, I don't. And she walks out.
- 43:46And I think that she means it in like a spiritual
- 43:49sense, not in a, like in a heart sense, not in
- 43:51a, yeah. I took it literally. Okay. I took it
- 43:54as, she literally doesn't understand anything
- 43:56he's saying. I do feel that the show would not
- 43:59have Daphne's super powered lip reading fail
- 44:02her in this dramatic moment. I was going to say,
- 44:05she's so good at lip reading every other situation,
- 44:08in the dark, when people are moving their heads.
- 44:10Yeah, no, I think the point there was to highlight
- 44:12that Angelo doesn't know anything about her.
- 44:16So that's why he's like, oh, wait, you don't
- 44:18understand me. Right. And so that hurts her.
- 44:22Like after the speech that she's processing,
- 44:24He then immediately lets out this big reminder
- 44:27that he hasn't been there. He doesn't know her.
- 44:30And also Daphne associates him with leaving because
- 44:33she was deaf. So for him to then immediately
- 44:35bring it up, she's like, actually, I don't understand
- 44:38what the fuck you're saying. Like, fuck you.
- 44:40And leaves. Because she's like, how am I supposed
- 44:42to square what you just said to me with everything
- 44:44I know about you? Best thing Daphne did this
- 44:47whole episode. Yeah. And then... Oh, this was
- 44:51the moment that I just wanted to note that Toby
- 44:53and Wilke show up at Carlton and Emmett's like,
- 44:56are you guys lost? And they're like, no, we're
- 44:57here for you, buddy. And they're dressed like
- 44:59the idiot twins. And Toby's got a fucking pointy
- 45:03shouldered vest on. It's like a little baby Bay
- 45:06Area tech bro vest. It's so strange. And Emmett's
- 45:10like, I'm absolutely not playing your festival.
- 45:12And that's why they show up at the car wash the
- 45:14next day. Yes. And then Regina shows up at the
- 45:18house and the Kennishes are like, Angelo was here.
- 45:20And she's like, what the fuck? And then the Kennishes
- 45:23are judgy about it. They're like, did you know
- 45:26about this? And she's like, no. They're like,
- 45:27did you know? And she's like, no. But then Kathryn
- 45:29goes, where did you meet this guy? Kathryn,
- 45:32fuck you. Like, he's a criminal. Okay. I mean,
- 45:35he is. But they don't know that. We don't know
- 45:37that yet. And Regina's like, we met in Chicago.
- 45:41We met like a bar, whatever. Yeah. At a normal
- 45:44place people meet. But yeah, some weird racial
- 45:46stuff. Yeah. But then Regina says, he's not violent.
- 45:50The only person he poses a real threat to is
- 45:53me. She means like her sobriety. That's what
- 45:56I thought. I was like, is there anything more
- 45:58to that? No. Daphne is being emo about just meeting
- 46:02her, not her bio dad, but Angelo, the dad who
- 46:05left her. And she's sadly watching Food Network
- 46:07with the closed captions on, which I really liked
- 46:10that detail. That's so cute. I didn't even notice.
- 46:13Yeah, I was like, obviously she would be watching
- 46:15that. I get it. Yeah. Perfect. And Regina checks
- 46:18in on her. First thing she's done. First mom
- 46:21thing she's done. She's got some mom instincts
- 46:23left, even though she's busy with the salon.
- 46:25I know. And Daphne cries and she says, I don't
- 46:28want to see him again. She's also like, did you
- 46:30know? Yeah. And Regina's like, no. Hey, liar
- 46:33mom, did you know? And Daphne's like, I just
- 46:35don't know what else you would keep from me.
- 46:36And Regina, thankfully. Instead of getting on
- 46:39her high horse is like, I guess I deserve that.
- 46:41Yeah, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. But she
- 46:44says, I don't want to see Angelo again. I'm not
- 46:46ready. Bay can see him somewhere else. And then
- 46:48Regina says, I can't control where Bay sees him.
- 46:51I think you can. Not that she's like the sole
- 46:54parent of Bay, but I think she could say, hey,
- 46:57for the benefit of the other daughter that lives
- 46:59here, would you guys mind having your daddy daughter
- 47:02days somewhere that's not this home? I think
- 47:05you can absolutely do that. I think that's a
- 47:07fair accommodation to ask for. I think that is
- 47:09extremely fair to ask of Bay. You're the adult.
- 47:12But Regina's like, I can't control that. That's
- 47:15not my problem. She said, I can't control what
- 47:17Bay's going to do, but I'll make sure that he
- 47:19doesn't hurt you again. Girl, what is in your
- 47:22control? So then, yeah, Kathryn comes to check
- 47:25on Bay and she's like, it's not that we don't
- 47:28want you to see him. We just want it to be respectful
- 47:30to us. I just like, I feel like they're gaslighting
- 47:33Bay. In what way? Kathryn being like, we're
- 47:37not mad and we're not going to keep you from
- 47:38seeing him. As we just yelled at you and said
- 47:41you can't see him. And then John's downstairs
- 47:44trying to figure out a plan to keep her from
- 47:46seeing him. I don't know, is it he wants to keep
- 47:50her from seeing him or does he want to have rules
- 47:52and boundaries in place for this man they do
- 47:55not know. I think no one's being sympathetic
- 47:58towards Bay that that's her dad. Her fucking...
- 48:00bio mom is a dud. Regina is not checking in on
- 48:04Bay, Regina is not building a relationship with
- 48:06Bay. She's been searching for this dad since she
- 48:09found out about the switch. Yeah which no one
- 48:12has been helping her with. She's been working
- 48:14really hard towards this and then also credit
- 48:16to her that she decided to tell her parents at
- 48:18all. Yeah. Bay could have kept it a secret obviously
- 48:21would have come out eventually but like Bay could
- 48:23have kept it a secret and continued to see him
- 48:25and build her relationship on her own terms. I
- 48:28just think like at 16 she is old enough that
- 48:30you can't be like, you will have one scheduled
- 48:32phone call a week with him with supervision. It's
- 48:35hard to stop. That's fucked up. Okay fair. It should've
- 48:38just all been a discussion. Yeah. Which of course
- 48:42is not realistic, this is a soap opera tv show.
- 48:44People don't talk to each other. No. And then yeah
- 48:47so then we're and then we're at the car wash.
- 48:50Then with the car wash and then that whole thing
- 48:52happens. And then. Angelo the Ambusher is what
- 48:55I call him. Yeah. Ambushelo. Ambushelo. He goes
- 48:59and he gets Regina at work. Outside the salon.
- 49:02And he looks good standing up. And Regina says,
- 49:06nice try. I know you're here because you just
- 49:09found out you have a rich daughter. You want
- 49:11the money from the hospital case. Got his ass.
- 49:14Yeah. And then Regina and Angelo are fighting
- 49:17in a random park because he's like. Yes. Hear me
- 49:20out, I'm not just here for the money and that's
- 49:23when it's revealed, there's like a lot they well
- 49:25he says stands out to me here. I left you get
- 49:28over it. That's kind of not what he says though
- 49:31he actually he's just explaining why he left
- 49:34a little bit. Right. Regina's like you left and
- 49:36he's like yes and then he says I wanted to stay
- 49:40in touch. But you kept pushing me away. He even
- 49:43says, like, you wouldn't let me. And she says,
- 49:46well, by the time you reached out, she was older
- 49:49and she didn't remember you. And she didn't remember
- 49:51you. And, like, it would have just been too painful.
- 49:55So that's a huge plot point. I don't know if
- 49:58that's going to come up later. But, like, that
- 50:00is so fucked up. Going back to... Remember when
- 50:04we were like, Regina, Daphne comes and she's
- 50:06like, did dad leave because I was deaf or because
- 50:09I went deaf? And then she says. He left because
- 50:12he was too chicken to like have a family, to
- 50:15like be in a family. Yes. But the conversation
- 50:19makes Daphne feel like, yes. Yes. That he did
- 50:23leave because she went deaf. And I remember at
- 50:26the time being like, I know Regina can't say
- 50:28the true reason he left was because of the DNA
- 50:30test at that moment because it hadn't come out
- 50:32yet. But beyond that, it is so shitty that she's
- 50:36let Daphne feel like he totally dropped out of
- 50:39their lives after that point when he was making
- 50:42efforts to try to come back. Maybe not consistent
- 50:45efforts. I mean, we've seen Angelo. He probably
- 50:47was sending a text every once in a while or whatever.
- 50:50But it's better than your dad completely left.
- 50:54Vanished into thin air. Yeah yeah right after you
- 50:57went deaf and somehow you're not supposed to
- 50:59connect those two. Yeah obviously she would but
- 51:03yeah as I'm re -watching the show there's more
- 51:06and more reasons for me not like Regina on this
- 51:08rewatch. I know I feel bad at how much I like
- 51:11really hate her this season, but it's not good.
- 51:15I also, like to credit him he really thought that
- 51:18Regina had had an affair and he still wanted
- 51:21to keep in touch with that tiny toddler that
- 51:24was not his child. He did raise the child for
- 51:27three years. He left because and he said you pushed
- 51:30me away. You said if I didn't trust you I should
- 51:32just leave so I left. No. I hate Regina for making
- 51:36me side with a man but like in this one instance
- 51:39I feel that Angelo has some good points. Yeah.
- 51:42Angelo is at his hotel now and he's paying for
- 51:45something. And this moment I've deemed him
- 51:49Scamgelo. That's good. Because because he's like my
- 51:52ID says Angelo, but my credit card says Adam.
- 51:55Don't worry about it. I explained this to the
- 51:56manager. Is she here? Like, what are you doing,
- 52:00scammer? But you know what? I bet the concierge
- 52:02has heart eyes. Yeah, of course. Yeah, again, it
- 52:05would work on me. Yeah, Adam, whatever. And John
- 52:07shows up. I don't think he hears that whole Adam
- 52:10thing. But he's like there to... What is he there
- 52:12to do? I feel like he's there to spook him, to
- 52:14scare him away. Kind of. This is what I mean
- 52:16about like... John is genuinely like, I don't
- 52:19want you seeing my daughter. He said, I'm daddy.
- 52:21He's literally, yeah. But Angelo kind of out
- 52:25daddies him. He's like, actually, I know about
- 52:28your lawsuit and I have insider knowledge that
- 52:30would be helpful. Yeah. And that insider knowledge
- 52:32is the nurse assigned to the girls worked 48
- 52:36hours straight, which is 36 hours past union
- 52:39rules. Dun dun. So you need me. So you need me
- 52:43because I have this nurse. Yeah. And so then
- 52:46the Kennishes immediately go to their lawyer who,
- 52:48does their lawyer suck? Yeah, basically they're
- 52:51like, so why didn't you find out about this?
- 52:53And she says like. So she's like, so they did
- 52:57depose the nurse and she never said anything
- 52:59like this. So I'm concerned that Angelo is coercing
- 53:04this nurse to say that and promising her money
- 53:07from the deposition. Yeah. And she says like,
- 53:10that's a big deal. You, if you guys legally entangle
- 53:13yourself with him, you could go to jail. She
- 53:16susses me out though something about her I do
- 53:18not trust. I cannot remember if there's information
- 53:21that I'm forgetting later on. There is. Okay so
- 53:24yeah like she because she's like such a lame
- 53:26lawyer like her just being like that's the best
- 53:28deal you're gonna get. Do you want to know what
- 53:30happened? Do you want me to tell you? No let me
- 53:32let me react in real time. And then next scene
- 53:35Regina is at the bank and the bank is like ha
- 53:37ha get out. Yeah. Now we're at Carlton. Oh yeah Toby shows
- 53:41up. And he said, you made my sister sad. Yeah.
- 53:44And it's like, I'm not playing your festival.
- 53:46And he's like, I'm not here about that. I'm here
- 53:47about my sister. But he signs sister incorrectly.
- 53:51He signs. So sister is. A single gun finger.
- 53:56A single gun. Like both of your hands are in
- 53:58an L shape. Yeah. And then your right hand is
- 54:01going from your chin to the other L. This is
- 54:05hard to explain on an audio. No, I think you're
- 54:08doing a good job. But it goes from your chin
- 54:10to the other L. And that's sister. But the way
- 54:12Toby is doing it is he's doing finger guns. So
- 54:16it's like your pointer finger and your middle
- 54:18finger and your thumb are out on both hands.
- 54:20And he's doing it like this. Yeah. And this is
- 54:22like the first time we've seen Toby sign. Yes.
- 54:26So that's huge. Huge. So far this season, every
- 54:30time someone brings up learning sign, he's like,
- 54:32oh, yeah. And then just moves on. Like, he's
- 54:34not like, oh, I should do a little bit of that.
- 54:36This is the first time. First time. And Emmett's
- 54:39like, so first of all, fuck you. That sign is
- 54:41wrong. Yeah. He does what Daphne should have
- 54:43done earlier. Yeah. He grabs his hand and he goes, this
- 54:46is a gun. And this is sister. And this is sister.
- 54:49It's kind of, it's kind of hot. And also like
- 54:52the start of maybe him and Toby kind of becoming
- 54:54friends. Yeah. Oh, finally, Toby's learning.
- 54:58Like, come on. Yeah, so then Emmett shows up
- 55:00at Buckner. So much of people showing up to each
- 55:03other's schools just in this episode. How are
- 55:05you getting on the school property? But Emmett
- 55:08comes up to Bay and he goes, I haven't been around.
- 55:10He basically apologizes for his behavior. Yeah,
- 55:13he gives a very romantic speech. And he goes,
- 55:15I haven't been around a lot of hearing people. But
- 55:17with you, it's different. I don't want you to
- 55:20be deaf. And then he speaks. And then he speaks.
- 55:23And then he says, I just want you. And I wish
- 55:26he didn't do that. Really? I don't think he needs
- 55:29to voice to profess his dedication to her. You
- 55:32don't think it was like, I kind of agree with
- 55:34you, but I think, first of all, it's the only
- 55:36time it happens in the show. Yes. But I think
- 55:39it's kind of him as the character trying to be
- 55:43like, I understand that you're working so hard
- 55:45to be a part of my world, to acknowledge that
- 55:48I will this one time, like vocally tell you how
- 55:51much I care for you in your language. I think
- 55:54it still would have been just as meaningful if
- 55:57he signed. I want you. Maybe he was worried she
- 56:00wouldn't understand. Okay, I want you. No, I'm
- 56:02joking. I'm joking. No, I understand. I guess
- 56:05as a hearing person, I didn't see a problem with
- 56:07it. I think I was just like, is that? I think
- 56:10it tracks for his character that he would voice
- 56:12because he loves to change for a girl. As we're
- 56:15seeing. Yeah that's true. Like I'm gonna take speech
- 56:17therapy, I'm gonna change for this girl. Yes. But
- 56:20I think in terms of representation and showing
- 56:23stuff like that on tv I was like oh man. You're
- 56:25right, it is kind of a bummer. Yeah. But that's
- 56:28the emotional peak. That's the emotional peak,
- 56:31that's how you show love to someone is yeah it
- 56:35was not my favorite. They also don't kiss after
- 56:37which I found odd like they hug. She just said
- 56:39thanks and then he leaves. I think it might be
- 56:43partially that it's like held back by the fact
- 56:45that it's like too soon in their relationship
- 56:47for him to say I love you. That would be crazy.
- 56:49And so but I right no it is but I think like
- 56:52a speech like this kind of builds would build
- 56:55to like it would go to a confession of love. It
- 56:59would. And so maybe that's why it also kind of
- 57:01like falls weirdly flat. Yeah I guess that makes
- 57:04sense. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway but I understand your
- 57:07feelings about it. Next scene, we're back at the
- 57:10Kennish house and Toby and Wilke are packing
- 57:12up the car for the festival. They're going to
- 57:14go East West Fest with Emmett. East West Fest
- 57:16with Emmett. And East West Fest, I think, is
- 57:18the next episode, which I'm very excited about.
- 57:21They're packing up. Emmett, like, kisses Bay
- 57:24goodbye. In front of Daphne. Visibly upset about
- 57:27this. Yeah. And then Toby sees that and, like,
- 57:31is like. Tries to ease the situation a little
- 57:34bit. And then Wilke's trying to flirt with Daphne.
- 57:38Daphne doesn't really care. Yeah. And then the
- 57:40boys all drive off. But Bay does her little art
- 57:45stuff. And she makes stickers. And she makes
- 57:47a drum cover for the show. I honestly thought
- 57:50the drum cover was ugly. So I wasn't going to
- 57:51say anything about it. It's the thought that counts.
- 57:54And she also gave them her car. That's true.
- 57:56She gives them her car. Because it's strong enough
- 57:58to carry their U -Haul or whatever they had.
- 58:01Yeah. Yeah, and then they drive off and Bay's
- 58:04like, hey, Daphne, are you okay? And she goes,
- 58:08no. Daphne's like, actually, no, I'm not. You
- 58:10made me break up with Liam. Liam, who she hasn't
- 58:12mentioned in so long. Who you do not care about.
- 58:15She could have gotten back with him. You could
- 58:17have. So many times. She goes, I'm not giving
- 58:21up. Emmett is mine. And I am not okay with the
- 58:25Angelo situation either. So take that. Yeah.
- 58:27But I think, yeah, Daphne is... selfish is
- 58:31the wrong word, but she's not thinking about
- 58:33Bay's feelings here in that. I was kind of like,
- 58:36girl, Bay doesn't have like any present parents
- 58:38right now. Regina's not there. Yeah. And Daphne
- 58:41kind of hit the jackpot with John. Like John
- 58:43is a present father. He's very involved. Yeah.
- 58:45He's like the school basketball coach. And Bay
- 58:48finally gets some guy who wants to be involved
- 58:52in her life. Yeah. But yeah, of course. I understand
- 58:55why Daphne feels the way she feels completely.
- 58:59But yeah. I don't know. It is a bummer. I do
- 59:02think it's just, like, the Emmett fallout has
- 59:04made Daphne be, like, anti anything Bay wants.
- 59:07Yeah. I agree. And that's sad. Sad to see the
- 59:11girls fighting. Yeah. They're always fighting.
- 59:13But, like, I wish that they could just, like,
- 59:15be friends. I know. And then back inside, Regina
- 59:18comes to ask Kathryn about Angelo. And Kathryn's
- 59:22like, don't worry, because he's going back to
- 59:23Chicago tonight. And Regina's like, oh, great.
- 59:25And then she walks outside. And Angelo is there
- 59:28waiting for her in the shadows. Ambushelo.
- 59:31Ambushelo appears from the shadows and he's like.
- 59:34Why would you think it's a good idea to show
- 59:36up on the property when he did like the day prior
- 59:39and John and Kathryn had a hissy fit? Like why
- 59:42would he think that's ever a good idea? I don't
- 59:43know and she's very chill about the fact that
- 59:46he's there. She doesn't freak out about it at
- 59:48all. No she's oh hey and you know what Regina
- 59:50I get it girl he's so cute. And he said I'm gonna
- 59:54get you money from the hospital. Yeah, he's like,
- 59:57I called you. Where were you? And she was like,
- 59:59I was at the bank trying to get a loan to open
- 1:00:01up a salon. And he was like, amazing. Like, they're
- 1:00:04just chit -chatting. Like, the last 14 years
- 1:00:06of separation haven't happened. And she's like,
- 1:00:09well, it's not going to work out. I didn't get
- 1:00:10the loan. And he's like, I'm about to win a bunch
- 1:00:12of money in this lawsuit. And half of whatever
- 1:00:15is mine is yours. And then Angelo's like, oh,
- 1:00:18by the way, I'm not going back to Chicago. I
- 1:00:20will be buying or renting a place. I'm staying
- 1:00:23in Kansas City. So you'll be seeing more of me.
- 1:00:26And that's the end of the episode. That is the
- 1:00:28end of the episode. They really crammed so much
- 1:00:31into this. We've talked about this episode for
- 1:00:34an hour and a half at this point. This episode
- 1:00:36that's about 45 minutes long. I love that. Yeah,
- 1:00:39they just don't make TV like they used to. They
- 1:00:41really don't. We accomplished so much. And I
- 1:00:44was right. They don't tell Bay in this episode
- 1:00:46that they kissed. Do we ever find that out? I
- 1:00:49don't think Bay ever finds out. Crazy. She finds
- 1:00:52out about other things, but not that, to my knowledge.
- 1:00:55I hate the other things. I hope we... I know.
- 1:00:59I just want to skip over that. It's awful. Well,
- 1:01:02we have to. It's the nature of doing the show.
- 1:01:04Yeah. Much to come. Yeah. Okay, guys. Thanks
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