Latest / The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast / Episode 92: Two For A Pound
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello there, Fred Dimney listening to this week's Tom and
- 0:04Speaker 1: Jerry Show. They've a right good bit about a lottery
- 0:08Speaker 1: winner in the middle and people often say to me, Fred,
- 0:12Speaker 1: you must be a lucky man climbing jimneys every day
- 0:15Speaker 1: for years and years and not falling off. Why don't
- 0:19Speaker 1: you do the lottery? Fred, you're lucky enough to win
- 0:22Speaker 1: blom and thing. Well, now there's luck in this world,
- 0:26Speaker 1: all right. And if you were going to have luck,
- 0:29Speaker 1: would you rather be for winning a lottery or for
- 0:32Speaker 1: a boats and chair hold and firm three hundred feet
- 0:35Speaker 1: up chimney. That's what I would always tell them. I'm
- 0:39Speaker 1: not going to fall off a jimney with a winning
- 0:41Speaker 1: lottery ticket in my pocket. No.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Anyways, I'll see.
- 0:45Speaker 3: Thee ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:55Speaker 4: Welcome to the Tom and Jerry Show of myself Jerry McBride,
- 0:59Speaker 4: and here's good Tom. Ohmany Tom. I We've been having
- 1:03Speaker 4: a little chat for about five minutes before we start recording,
- 1:06Speaker 4: and I will going to say it then what I'm
- 1:07Speaker 4: going to say it Now, you look like you're about
- 1:11Speaker 4: to go to war, not just that you have the
- 1:13Speaker 4: green short on it, but you also have what looks
- 1:15Speaker 4: at a casual glance, like the gun Rambo fired at
- 1:24Speaker 4: the end of Forst Blood Part two. It's it took
- 1:28Speaker 4: me a little while. What is it though?
- 1:29Speaker 3: Really?
- 1:29Speaker 2: Tell it's a giant tripod for taking like a you know,
- 1:33Speaker 2: a speaker, like that's what it is.
- 1:34Speaker 4: But it does look like you have actually looks like
- 1:36Speaker 4: a multi barreled rifle.
- 1:37Speaker 2: That was the first thing the young for this all
- 1:39Speaker 2: when he saw he started running around the house with
- 1:41Speaker 2: it like it was a gun. But yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
- 1:42Speaker 2: it's not, it's not, it's not all. I could have
- 1:44Speaker 2: used it this weekend. We have some youth that are
- 1:48Speaker 2: after getting youths that are after getting their hands on
- 1:52Speaker 2: quads and whatnot, and it's just it's yeah, I was.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Doing a lot of working outside this weekend.
- 1:58Speaker 2: And let's just say, all man and o'mahnny got a
- 2:01Speaker 2: bit crotchety, shall I say?
- 2:03Speaker 4: Like you know what I mean, croutchery? Are we going
- 2:05Speaker 4: to be oh the year time, that's gonna be sensational.
- 2:08Speaker 2: It'll be like like movie level crotchery. Like I mean,
- 2:14Speaker 2: but my whole thing is I moved to the countryside.
- 2:16Speaker 2: These kids don't know that, but I moved to the
- 2:18Speaker 2: countryside for solitude and quiet, and I go find the
- 2:22Speaker 2: noisy stuff at the weekends when I go shout things
- 2:24Speaker 2: at people in comedy clubs and stuff, and that's where
- 2:27Speaker 2: my noisy stuff is. And I come back here only
- 2:30Speaker 2: to have my goats. I'm a badgers. I'm a couple
- 2:32Speaker 2: of deer, and I'm going to hear badly driven quads
- 2:38Speaker 2: around the forest behind.
- 2:39Speaker 4: That's got a thing on top of everyone else.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, so old man Henny Nearly came out shaking
- 2:44Speaker 2: my rake and him like, oh your shakeha boy, that's
- 2:51Speaker 2: that's been my weekend.
- 2:52Speaker 4: I should have just brought out the tripod there. I
- 2:54Speaker 4: should have actually coming across the break with that, and
- 2:57Speaker 4: you're gonna.
- 2:57Speaker 2: Be like, fuck, go I should you know, the right
- 3:00Speaker 2: there in the evening time and have a laser pointer
- 3:02Speaker 2: in the garage. I don't know where it came up from.
- 3:03Speaker 2: I should actually just imagine a laser dot just landing
- 3:06Speaker 2: on you while you're in the forest, just landing on
- 3:09Speaker 2: your chest.
- 3:10Speaker 4: I should shoot. Do you know what I should?
- 3:13Speaker 2: If some of these kids are well educated in good
- 3:15Speaker 2: classic like action action alien movies, I should get three
- 3:18Speaker 2: of them, tape them together and three dots landing on
- 3:21Speaker 2: your chest.
- 3:22Speaker 4: Would kids even know these days? No kids even know
- 3:25Speaker 4: what the predator is?
- 3:26Speaker 2: No? No, no, my well, I've been informed anyway that
- 3:30Speaker 2: my son is now digitally where was He is now
- 3:34Speaker 2: ready to go for his Ooucher trials. He is going
- 3:37Speaker 2: to be the new He's going to be the new predator.
- 3:39Speaker 4: He told me. So, I've had to make a couple
- 3:41Speaker 4: of things for his arm. It's a it's kids these
- 3:45Speaker 4: days are worried about a predator of other sorts.
- 3:49Speaker 2: Hence why I moved to the countryside. There I can
- 3:52Speaker 2: see him or hear him come with the bastards from
- 3:53Speaker 2: a distance, and I can just use mails.
- 3:55Speaker 4: That have been released over the last couple of years
- 3:57Speaker 4: shows that there's more than Yaucher we need to be
- 3:59Speaker 4: worried about when it comes to productors in this land.
- 4:01Speaker 4: But that's not what we're here to talk about.
- 4:02Speaker 2: It's true.
- 4:03Speaker 4: On the time Tom and Jerry Show, Tom and Jerry
- 4:05Speaker 4: Show isn't going to get in depth with the Epstein Files, folks,
- 4:09Speaker 4: that's not this kind of podcast.
- 4:10Speaker 2: We don't have a bit of a crack product. We
- 4:12Speaker 2: don't have the bed with to deal with it at all. Anyway, Mother,
- 4:15Speaker 2: Divine Jesus, no go find a even sour people than
- 4:18Speaker 2: us to to listen to that.
- 4:22Speaker 4: You know, it's it's We're not going to rule it
- 4:24Speaker 4: out down the line, but it's it's not. It's not
- 4:27Speaker 4: what we like to do. What we like to do
- 4:28Speaker 4: on the show is have a little bit of crack,
- 4:30Speaker 4: you know, have a bit of a kick around and
- 4:32Speaker 4: discuss various bits and pieces. If you're if you're a
- 4:34Speaker 4: listener to this show, you know that in particular, I
- 4:37Speaker 4: gotta tell you Tom, if you are a listener who
- 4:39Speaker 4: came up to me on the Lewis above All Places
- 4:42Speaker 4: and and and said that they love the show, thank
- 4:45Speaker 4: you very much for that. Absolutely made my day. And
- 4:47Speaker 4: if you're listening it to it today, it drops a
- 4:50Speaker 4: line there in the in the comments or on Twitter
- 4:53Speaker 4: or wherever it is that you are, because we'd love
- 4:56Speaker 4: to say a quick although you were gone that fast
- 4:58Speaker 4: and they didn't get a chance to talk to you anytime.
- 5:00Speaker 4: It doesn't happen very often, but anytime anybody comes up
- 5:02Speaker 4: to me in the street they say, oh I saw
- 5:04Speaker 4: you in the laughlines or anting like that. Of the
- 5:05Speaker 4: six times that it happened to me in my life,
- 5:07Speaker 4: they're always gone and I'm just like, like, I can't get
- 5:10Speaker 4: award out.
- 5:11Speaker 2: I know, I yeah, I know, but it is what
- 5:14Speaker 2: I get now in the local area is just grown
- 5:17Speaker 2: men just kind of grinning at me and giving a
- 5:19Speaker 2: not right. But it's all appreciation that someone listens to
- 5:23Speaker 2: the podcast, someone go to the stand up and whatnot.
- 5:25Speaker 2: But it is you take Jerry in his elation, even
- 5:28Speaker 2: text me to go. And of course never got a
- 5:30Speaker 2: chance to ask the woman her name or anything like that.
- 5:33Speaker 2: But so do please make contact.
- 5:35Speaker 4: Oh by the way, like you know, and if I
- 5:36Speaker 4: know you're from Twitter and you say hello or renting
- 5:38Speaker 4: like that, please don't. If I don't get your name
- 5:40Speaker 4: straight away, it's not being ignorant. If you aren't exactly
- 5:43Speaker 4: posed and wearing the exact clothes that you're wearing in
- 5:46Speaker 4: your Twitter profile, you're going to catch me on a
- 5:49Speaker 4: hop or you have to.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Put yourself in Jerry's shoes.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?
- 5:52Speaker 2: That man, Just like make.
- 5:53Speaker 4: It, make a circle with your hands and like frame
- 5:56Speaker 4: it that I can look at it like that's the
- 5:58Speaker 4: profile there. Sorry, I've got I've got relatives that every
- 6:03Speaker 4: now and then I have to think of their names like,
- 6:05Speaker 4: you know, don't take it personal.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and what yourself in issues he's thinking about
- 6:08Speaker 2: w D far to certain adapters, you know what I mean.
- 6:10Speaker 2: These things have run through his head day and night.
- 6:12Speaker 2: So he's not going to be overly ready and poised
- 6:15Speaker 2: to be socially on point. And also the lewis probably
- 6:19Speaker 2: both his fists or balled inside in his pockets at
- 6:21Speaker 2: the time.
- 6:22Speaker 4: But honestly, like you know, something just got the top
- 6:26Speaker 4: and going sorry, excuse me, and I was like a fuck,
- 6:28Speaker 4: here comes here comes the swing some like excuse me
- 6:31Speaker 4: you bumped into me there at at Houston Station and
- 6:34Speaker 4: I took umbrage to it. Yeah, so that's the case.
- 6:37Speaker 4: It was lovely, lovely to hear.
- 6:38Speaker 2: God bless you.
- 6:40Speaker 4: So now that we've talked about all the people who
- 6:42Speaker 4: have have said we like the show and all that,
- 6:44Speaker 4: we better do something to fuck I prove it?
- 6:46Speaker 2: What you get on with it?
- 6:47Speaker 4: Come on, let's get Let's get on with the first
- 6:49Speaker 4: segment of the show, where we dive into the big
- 6:51Speaker 4: news of the week, the scuttle but what rattled our cage, Tom,
- 6:54Speaker 4: the weekly what have you. This is a very complicated case,
- 6:58Speaker 4: Mad you know, a lot of ian's, a lot of
- 7:00Speaker 4: outlat of what have you is, and a lot of
- 7:02Speaker 4: SCRAMs to keep in my head.
- 7:04Speaker 2: Man, I'm enjoying this one. We do this one well,
- 7:07Speaker 2: this style of thing well, and I'm enjoying.
- 7:09Speaker 4: This one around the world, don't we.
- 7:10Speaker 2: We love going around the world. And I'm enjoying this
- 7:12Speaker 2: because I see snowdrops. There's a neighbor of mine, and
- 7:15Speaker 2: I gotta give him kudos. My god, he's got like
- 7:19Speaker 2: a two hundred meter old old elm driveway and he's
- 7:24Speaker 2: there must be two meters wide in between all the
- 7:27Speaker 2: you know that maybe fifty trees that he has there
- 7:30Speaker 2: of snowdrops. Very soon the daffilils will come on. When
- 7:34Speaker 2: I see those snowdrops, which have been there since I
- 7:36Speaker 2: was a child, because I was friends with you know,
- 7:38Speaker 2: actually his brother taught me how to drive that that's
- 7:40Speaker 2: on cherry in the field right beside that. But when
- 7:43Speaker 2: I see those blue or those not bluebells snowdrops coming
- 7:47Speaker 2: up chair, that's it.
- 7:49Speaker 4: That's it comes from springtime. Baby.
- 7:51Speaker 2: It's time to put away the wooly jumpers, or at
- 7:53Speaker 2: least at the very least you're starting to make an
- 7:56Speaker 2: eye on a box that's gonna they're gonna go into
- 7:58Speaker 2: and go away for for a couple of months because
- 8:00Speaker 2: as spring is springing.
- 8:02Speaker 4: Ar has sprung. And funny to say, as we recorded
- 8:05Speaker 4: the Big the Big Weekly, what have you this week,
- 8:07Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen, is that as we record this today,
- 8:11Speaker 4: we record on Mondays, and it is February second, it's
- 8:15Speaker 4: Groundhog Day. It is actual Groundhog Day of the Groundhog
- 8:19Speaker 4: Day movie. Is that February second is February the second.
- 8:23Speaker 4: It's a real thing. And Punk Satani is a real
- 8:25Speaker 4: tan and punks Atoni Phil is the real groundhog who
- 8:28Speaker 4: emerges from the borough and whispers in ground huggies whether
- 8:33Speaker 4: or not he definitely sees his shadow. Looking at his
- 8:36Speaker 4: shadow determines what If he sees his shadow, that means
- 8:39Speaker 4: six more weeks of winter. If he doesn't see a shadow,
- 8:42Speaker 4: that means it's spring now a zero SR prognosticator of
- 8:47Speaker 4: Prognosticator Punk Satani Phil, Tom, what's your what's your first
- 8:51Speaker 4: sin of spring? You just told me, buddy, when you
- 8:53Speaker 4: see the snowdrops come?
- 8:54Speaker 3: Well?
- 8:54Speaker 2: Do you know what sim Bridges Day? I always which
- 8:57Speaker 2: was yesterday? And God bless in Bridges. She in recent
- 9:01Speaker 2: times we've been given bank Holiday as Jerry of recording
- 9:04Speaker 2: on Bank Holday Monday.
- 9:06Speaker 4: As as a.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Direct result of Saint Bridget Nave Bridget herself, who was
- 9:12Speaker 2: kind of adopted really by the Christian the Christians in
- 9:17Speaker 2: because they wanted to, you know, make peace with the Pagans,
- 9:20Speaker 2: and we talked about this for Christmas and all the
- 9:21Speaker 2: rest of it that really you know it falls on, yeah,
- 9:25Speaker 2: the winter c and it's just to keep the Pagans happy.
- 9:27Speaker 2: And it's the same thing she was. And Bridges, who
- 9:30Speaker 2: I think was like from the four hundreds she was
- 9:33Speaker 2: named or to be in the embodiment of it was
- 9:36Speaker 2: like this the fire goddess of some sort that brought
- 9:41Speaker 2: in that the reign of spring. So she she was
- 9:47Speaker 2: the bringing of spring. So Saint Bridges's day, I never
- 9:50Speaker 2: think of Saint Bridges cross. I think's Saint Bridges Day,
- 9:52Speaker 2: but I think of snowdrops. When I see snowdrops, I'm like,
- 9:54Speaker 2: we're on, We're on. This is for me. Now, this
- 9:58Speaker 2: is if in sporting terms, this is you're rubbing the
- 10:02Speaker 2: you're rubbing the deep heat into the legs. Actually you're
- 10:05Speaker 2: having a bit of a stretch. Put the fag out
- 10:08Speaker 2: the time to tape up the boots, because you've got
- 10:12Speaker 2: to give it one last roll of the dice before
- 10:13Speaker 2: you possibly listen to that knee and shoulder and back
- 10:16Speaker 2: in neck injury and you know you're sliding balance in
- 10:20Speaker 2: the inner ear from too many knocks. But you're going
- 10:22Speaker 2: to give it one Las goal.
- 10:23Speaker 4: You're going to give it a go.
- 10:24Speaker 2: It's his showtime.
- 10:27Speaker 4: New Year's isn't the start the new year? No New
- 10:30Speaker 4: Year is, like, you know, you've got a month of January,
- 10:31Speaker 4: which on a good year fucking sucks. So normally we'll
- 10:36Speaker 4: give it to at least February to start. As Tom says,
- 10:39Speaker 4: there now getting the winter green out, rubbing it into
- 10:42Speaker 4: the giants and moving along and and and not for nothing.
- 10:46Speaker 4: Over in America, you've got your Groundhog Day that tells
- 10:50Speaker 4: us that the first day of spring is sprung. What
- 10:53Speaker 4: we love to do in the Tom and Jerry Show
- 10:54Speaker 4: here is take a look around the world and see
- 10:57Speaker 4: is there any other cultures, countries and festivities that are
- 11:01Speaker 4: similar to that. How do they usher in the start
- 11:04Speaker 4: of spring elsewhere around the world. So we're going to
- 11:07Speaker 4: take a real quick three or four stops around the
- 11:09Speaker 4: world to see what do you do to usher in
- 11:12Speaker 4: spring in your country if you have no ground hugs
- 11:15Speaker 4: available to you?
- 11:17Speaker 2: What we covered this one? Would you believe? And we
- 11:20Speaker 2: never we never mentioned it's it's it's reasoning really or significance.
- 11:24Speaker 2: It's Cooper's hill, the cheese roll down the hill? Jar. Yeah,
- 11:30Speaker 2: we covered a spring thing. That's a spring thing, springer sprung.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Let's roll the cheese down the hill?
- 11:35Speaker 2: Is thatw Brockworth in Gloucester. This is how it is
- 11:38Speaker 2: you roll it down, which I'd say the ground is
- 11:39Speaker 2: still soft enough. Now do I think it happened this weekend?
- 11:42Speaker 2: I don't know, because a couple of these different nations
- 11:45Speaker 2: would kind of you know, punk Stoney Peete shouts on
- 11:48Speaker 2: the or you know, whispers on on the second. Bridges
- 11:51Speaker 2: says on the forest like. There's a few of these
- 11:54Speaker 2: smatter throughout the month of February early March what they
- 11:57Speaker 2: consider the kickoff of planting and sewing and all that.
- 12:01Speaker 2: So we're kind of doing We're gonna give them a
- 12:03Speaker 2: bit of a bit of wiggle room, a bit of
- 12:05Speaker 2: leeway here, but these do fall under the This one
- 12:10Speaker 2: is to celebrate spring, spring, springing, and it is it's
- 12:15Speaker 2: the it's the Rolling Office. If anybody, I'm sure AI
- 12:18Speaker 2: will bring you right to it if you want to
- 12:20Speaker 2: go find out all about the rolling of the cheese
- 12:23Speaker 2: and how that we did a very in depth episode
- 12:26Speaker 2: on the fucking madness pegging down the pegging down the
- 12:31Speaker 2: hill after the big old roller of cheese. So it's
- 12:36Speaker 2: it's it's basically dead in a you know, in an
- 12:39Speaker 2: apertive like it's mental and yeah, that's that's that was
- 12:44Speaker 2: the first one that came up to you.
- 12:46Speaker 4: Yes, I'm just I'm just looking at it here now. Yes,
- 12:49Speaker 4: indeed it is the commemorate with Monday, or indeed with Sunday. Yeah, yeah,
- 12:54Speaker 4: all of the wits there get out of town. Yeah,
- 12:57Speaker 4: it's I had no idea that that was.
- 13:00Speaker 2: God.
- 13:00Speaker 4: You know what, you can trace everything back to the
- 13:01Speaker 4: pagan sy you can, you really can. At a glance here,
- 13:05Speaker 4: I'm not entirely certain how we got from the celebration
- 13:08Speaker 4: of spring to the celebration of tricky armies.
- 13:14Speaker 2: But oh yeah, yeah, is that the blessing of the candles?
- 13:21Speaker 4: No, that's the blessing of getting your getting your neck
- 13:24Speaker 4: mashed in by a wheel of cheese.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Role Sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because there's one we're
- 13:29Speaker 2: listen to the throat with the candles, isn't there.
- 13:31Speaker 4: That's that's it. That's simp okay. I remember that. I
- 13:35Speaker 4: always was afraid when I was we that the priest
- 13:37Speaker 4: was going to chop my head off with the candles.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Look at me, and if you didn't like me in
- 13:41Speaker 2: this case, so hit me, hit you, hit me with
- 13:45Speaker 2: one jar please.
- 13:45Speaker 4: I'm gonna hit you one, okay. So as as they
- 13:47Speaker 4: have punks a Tony Phil in America in Zurich have
- 13:54Speaker 4: the boog the boog boog tom are you?
- 14:00Speaker 2: Are you saying a book like somebody from Drahada?
- 14:03Speaker 4: No funny to say? And I had to look up
- 14:04Speaker 4: how to pronounce this, okay, because it's spelt you know,
- 14:06Speaker 4: it's Switzerland, so the the thrown umlouts around the place. Yeah, yeah,
- 14:10Speaker 4: Yet it's spelt b oh umlaut oh umlaut gg to
- 14:16Speaker 4: two o's with two omlotz doubles doublow knots, because that's
- 14:20Speaker 4: that's like.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Two o's with twos, like that's madness.
- 14:23Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, okay, well why the
- 14:25Speaker 4: fuck do you pronounce that? And come to find out
- 14:27Speaker 4: that the boog is lends itself later on to the
- 14:30Speaker 4: boogee Man. That's where we get boogie Man from right,
- 14:35Speaker 4: And this is a very definite transition from spring to
- 14:39Speaker 4: from winter to spring festival in Zurich whereby they build
- 14:43Speaker 4: a figure of a snowman on top of a pyre
- 14:48Speaker 4: a bonfire, nice and then they dance around it. Okay,
- 14:52Speaker 4: all right, you know fairly we've we've covered a couple
- 14:55Speaker 4: of these festivals in our time in the Tom and
- 14:57Speaker 4: Jerry show. That's that's fairly power for the course, right right, yeah, yeah, yeah, ah.
- 15:03Speaker 4: The Snowman is packed with explosives. Explosives, Tom, how how
- 15:16Speaker 4: old of a tradition is this? This goes back, this
- 15:19Speaker 4: goes back all right? While like it, it's not. Oh
- 15:21Speaker 4: and we added explosives in as as things rolled on,
- 15:26Speaker 4: you know, just to just to kids were bordering like that. Now,
- 15:29Speaker 4: this has been on for well over one hundred years.
- 15:31Speaker 4: The burning of the boog and what happens is that
- 15:34Speaker 4: you light the fire, you time it, okay, okay, So
- 15:41Speaker 4: how long it takes from the lighting of the fire
- 15:43Speaker 4: to the explosion of the snowman will determine how much
- 15:47Speaker 4: more winter is left.
- 15:50Speaker 2: So do you measure the distance of the chunks fly
- 15:52Speaker 2: out or what the distance the chunks fly is?
- 15:58Speaker 4: Neither here nor there. It is the time between lightning,
- 16:01Speaker 4: the fuse lighting, the bonfire lightened the power, and the
- 16:04Speaker 4: boog exploding. It has it has I believe at least
- 16:10Speaker 4: one fatality connected to it, as you said there for yourself,
- 16:13Speaker 4: because this is a snowman built of obviously not snowtown,
- 16:16Speaker 4: because that mels straight away. It's like and I didn't
- 16:18Speaker 4: have polystyarn back in the day, so I don't know
- 16:20Speaker 4: what the hell of making this from down through the
- 16:22Speaker 4: years as best this would be a good guess, I'm
- 16:24Speaker 4: pretty sure. But yeah it it explodes between twelve and
- 16:30Speaker 4: twenty minutes, and that will determine whether or not you have,
- 16:32Speaker 4: you know, twelve more days of winter or twenty four
- 16:35Speaker 4: more days of winter. The longest I can see young
- 16:38Speaker 4: Wikipedia here is that it took forty three minutes in
- 16:40Speaker 4: twenty sixteen for to explode, meaning forty three extra days
- 16:44Speaker 4: of winter power for the course of twenty sixteen. Fuck
- 16:47Speaker 4: that year, can't say it? And better about it?
- 16:50Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean it kind of comes down to
- 16:52Speaker 2: who laid the fuse. That's the only thing isn't it?
- 16:56Speaker 4: You know? But like you know, you rest assured it's
- 16:57Speaker 4: Fred Dibman and the wife sticking in all that bat
- 17:00Speaker 4: the boog, black boog? Do we know anyone who can
- 17:04Speaker 4: do the accent?
- 17:05Speaker 2: Time? Swiss people welcome Desorik like you after out with
- 17:12Speaker 2: the undertake it well the new ouds over the you Yeah,
- 17:19Speaker 2: did you like that?
- 17:20Speaker 4: You like that black boog exploding? So yeah, So we can't.
- 17:24Speaker 4: We can't mock our American brethren for asking a groundhog
- 17:30Speaker 4: if it sees a shadow when the Swiss are exploding?
- 17:34Speaker 1: Men?
- 17:34Speaker 2: Do you know a lot of these things have a
- 17:36Speaker 2: nice festive sound to them, you know what I mean?
- 17:38Speaker 2: We go very subtle with ours, like you know, we've
- 17:41Speaker 2: we've softened the hell out of ours, the notion of
- 17:43Speaker 2: it with say, bridget the lads you know for the
- 17:46Speaker 2: once in a better word and not one bat or
- 17:48Speaker 2: whatever he is looking at his own shadow and whispering
- 17:50Speaker 2: and somebody's ear. It's all very cute. Even blowing up
- 17:52Speaker 2: a snowman is good crack. You know what.
- 17:54Speaker 4: I got to pull you up on one thing there, Tom,
- 17:57Speaker 4: We softened it. Yeah, We the Irish people decided which
- 18:00Speaker 4: our festivities, we would soften down through.
- 18:01Speaker 2: The Okay, all right, yeah, okay, it was it was
- 18:06Speaker 2: set upon us. We were a wild bunch before then.
- 18:07Speaker 2: But you know what, it stuck around for some people
- 18:11Speaker 2: because in Marzanna in Poland, now this this happens in
- 18:16Speaker 2: the end of I think this happened nearly down there
- 18:18Speaker 2: in March. But is this by the same reasoning because
- 18:21Speaker 2: they get a longer ouch into winter right now.
- 18:22Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say if winter counts for double ed there.
- 18:25Speaker 2: It does because right now I think it's like minus
- 18:27Speaker 2: twenty something in most of Poland right now. But Marzanna
- 18:31Speaker 2: is that she's the slav. The Slovak got us a
- 18:35Speaker 2: winter and a way to get rid of her jar
- 18:37Speaker 2: and say they they it was see you next year.
- 18:40Speaker 2: You could do it in a sort of way, but no,
- 18:42Speaker 2: they make a big effigy of her, not to unlike
- 18:46Speaker 2: guy Fox, and then they said farther and fuckers straight
- 18:50Speaker 2: in the river. And that's just how they start things.
- 18:53Speaker 2: They're all the cheering and everything. But here's the thing.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Here's the thing. There's there's I love these these round
- 18:59Speaker 2: of their rules when it comes to these things like
- 19:01Speaker 2: we did one on pisch ooags if anybody wants to
- 19:03Speaker 2: go and find this, and there's peachoags left right on
- 19:05Speaker 2: the center with this one, because it says for your
- 19:08Speaker 2: own safety, you mustn't touch her while she's in the water,
- 19:12Speaker 2: like if you see her floating down the next day
- 19:13Speaker 2: or whatever you want to Nor should you look behind
- 19:17Speaker 2: you as you walk away and clap and eyes clap
- 19:20Speaker 2: and eyes on her, burn it, turn your back and
- 19:22Speaker 2: leg it. That's essentially the crack, because you could end
- 19:27Speaker 2: up with her apparently and off, much like like spotting
- 19:29Speaker 2: a whistling woman first thing in the morning. Head home
- 19:32Speaker 2: again if you see that, because same thing, if you
- 19:34Speaker 2: buy any chance clap eyes with her. She's fucked over
- 19:38Speaker 2: the bridge into the river, burnon, and you just go
- 19:40Speaker 2: go on, I'll give it a look, because who wouldn't
- 19:41Speaker 2: want to look at that?
- 19:42Speaker 4: I mean, when you're gonna see it again.
- 19:44Speaker 2: You're not allowed to see it, this thing. Punks of
- 19:46Speaker 2: Tony Peter is allowed to see someone shadow. You're not
- 19:49Speaker 2: allowed to look at this effigy of a woman. And
- 19:52Speaker 2: the idea being is that it's kind of ties in
- 19:54Speaker 2: with Yes, they're they're getting rid of the goddess of winter.
- 19:57Speaker 2: And all that.
- 19:58Speaker 4: But really the way they used to.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Do it was not what a doll made or a
- 20:04Speaker 2: straw er back. Is from between the fourteen hundreds to
- 20:08Speaker 2: the right up to the seventeen hundreds, they'd use a
- 20:11Speaker 2: real woman. Oh dear dam Yeah, so I guess they'd
- 20:14Speaker 2: weigh her against a duck. And I suppose any any
- 20:21Speaker 2: anti fight de fans and know what I'm talking about,
- 20:25Speaker 2: And they'd burn the woman, simple as that burn and
- 20:28Speaker 2: threw into the river, into the river, and they reckon
- 20:30Speaker 2: in that eastern Europe between in that three hundred years
- 20:33Speaker 2: they reckon, sixty thousand women were burnt for witchcraft. So
- 20:36Speaker 2: what's one to get rid of winter?
- 20:38Speaker 4: You know, I mean it.
- 20:45Speaker 2: It's got a grizzly it's got a grizzly sound to
- 20:48Speaker 2: it nowadays, like you've got some.
- 20:51Speaker 3: Right there.
- 20:51Speaker 2: And the next thing you go, well, let me tell
- 20:54Speaker 2: you qua, I will tell you about this is what
- 20:58Speaker 2: we we burn a woman? You know?
- 21:01Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, regards go out to the forward thinking
- 21:05Speaker 4: people that turn around gold lads, let's just make a
- 21:07Speaker 4: little fucking work or woman.
- 21:09Speaker 2: Yeah, how many years did that take to catch on?
- 21:12Speaker 2: You know?
- 21:15Speaker 4: There you go, have you have? You have you a
- 21:17Speaker 4: good one Landos on their tome.
- 21:18Speaker 2: I just want to throw in this one. An animal
- 21:20Speaker 2: I mentioned to this one. What did they you know?
- 21:22Speaker 2: The color of festival India. That's as a result of
- 21:24Speaker 2: spring as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, people pelt each other again.
- 21:28Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's in and around the turning of
- 21:32Speaker 2: winter and whatnot. I don't know how coold it gets
- 21:34Speaker 2: in Mumbai.
- 21:35Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 21:36Speaker 2: But just to give an anonymal mention, and one more
- 21:38Speaker 2: honorable mention is be purely based on its name, the
- 21:41Speaker 2: whoopti scouri Where do you think that's from? Jerry? That's
- 21:45Speaker 2: the name of the name of this carry on. Where
- 21:47Speaker 2: do you think?
- 21:48Speaker 4: What do you call it? The whoopi scourry?
- 21:50Speaker 2: Sorry, I that was just my Tipperary accent to it.
- 21:53Speaker 2: The whooptie scoury.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Oh, I thought it was like the whoopti scoury from Germany,
- 21:58Speaker 4: not the whoopi scourry. Yeah, whoop the scory whooped. I'm
- 22:01Speaker 4: still gonna go something Germanic Austria.
- 22:03Speaker 2: No, Scotland's mad jocks, so nobody has any idea and
- 22:12Speaker 2: I would. I don't know it's this as a result
- 22:14Speaker 2: of substances, but nobody has an idea what the result
- 22:17Speaker 2: it is is so essentially ye lancash Lanoxshire, Lanarkshire, and
- 22:24Speaker 2: I almost said Lancashire. It's from the nineteenth century, so
- 22:28Speaker 2: it's not that far back. Essentially, so young fless otherwise
- 22:34Speaker 2: known as webrons, And they gather at six o'clock at
- 22:38Speaker 2: exactly at the foot of the steeple a m r
- 22:42Speaker 2: pm to pm at Leonarcross and the evening at force
- 22:46Speaker 2: to march right, So this is and with balls of
- 22:49Speaker 2: paper on a string, breaking these buys. And basically they
- 22:55Speaker 2: take off walking with these and they run clockloud clockwise
- 23:00Speaker 2: three times around the steeple, swinging them over their heads
- 23:05Speaker 2: around Saint Nicholas's Church. Nobody has a fucking notion. Why why.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Nobody cares to ask him?
- 23:13Speaker 2: Do you know why would you when the crack is
- 23:14Speaker 2: ninety anyway, you're just going show. We're all having a
- 23:16Speaker 2: wee dram and we're what's the why not?
- 23:20Speaker 4: Nobody's better than borning a woman and throwing it down
- 23:24Speaker 4: the river.
- 23:25Speaker 2: And I can't see where this was any relevance. So
- 23:27Speaker 2: it's a ball of paper on a string, swing it
- 23:29Speaker 2: around your head clock and run around the church three
- 23:32Speaker 2: times clockwise.
- 23:33Speaker 4: And as that what happens when you bottlefield children iron brew, this.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Is you'd start deep frying your this is what happens.
- 23:41Speaker 4: But I have deep your pseuda cream. This is what
- 23:43Speaker 4: you get.
- 23:44Speaker 2: I have one final one and this was my favorite
- 23:46Speaker 2: one that I came across, and I've come across as
- 23:48Speaker 2: probably the wrong the wrong phrase. But it's the Canamara.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Festival Catalina wine mixer.
- 23:54Speaker 2: No, it's the Canamarat Matsuki. Have a guess where that's from.
- 24:00Speaker 4: Japan. It is Japan.
- 24:02Speaker 2: It is it celebrates, it's right around it's right around
- 24:05Speaker 2: the middle of February, I think, I think, is what
- 24:07Speaker 2: I read on it. And essentially what it is is
- 24:11Speaker 2: a fertility festivalture.
- 24:13Speaker 4: Oh so in November, Baby's coming our way.
- 24:16Speaker 2: So essentially, and it's you know, much like the Spanish.
- 24:20Speaker 2: They love Jesus and they love Mary and they'll go
- 24:23Speaker 2: up and down the road and hither and dinner with
- 24:25Speaker 2: like giant statues of them up on like what would
- 24:29Speaker 2: you call them, you know, yeah, up and clints with
- 24:32Speaker 2: twenty lads either side carrying it. When they do the
- 24:35Speaker 2: same thing with flutes. Mickey's giant, massive balls and cocks
- 24:42Speaker 2: just fucking delight with themselves. Everybody's wearing dick hats. It's
- 24:47Speaker 2: it's unbelief. It's of fucking cocks essentially, and it's it's
- 24:54Speaker 2: it's based on a.
- 24:56Speaker 4: Building wheat field of penises.
- 24:58Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a few legends. And this
- 25:00Speaker 2: is where I love definite legends. Yeah, a few legends.
- 25:05Speaker 2: If they cantry nail down where it where it originated.
- 25:08Speaker 2: But right now, it's it's based on fertility, and I
- 25:11Speaker 2: suppose right all left you know yourself, but it's in
- 25:16Speaker 2: that it's it celebrates a deity who healed the shinto Godnesszammy,
- 25:21Speaker 2: after she gave birth to a fire god. Yeah, you
- 25:25Speaker 2: know yourself, blue blue, blue of flaps after birth the
- 25:28Speaker 2: doors because the midst people pray to gods to have
- 25:31Speaker 2: saved childbirths and protect from sexually transmitted diseases.
- 25:34Speaker 4: How's that working?
- 25:35Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. But
- 25:39Speaker 2: the most basically, like.
- 25:40Speaker 4: You know, it's just like a bunch of penis hats.
- 25:42Speaker 4: Like it sounds like Kenny have a hen weekend.
- 25:44Speaker 2: It's it is everything Japanese that Japanese people do. Well,
- 25:49Speaker 2: do you know what I mean costume fanfare. They do
- 25:53Speaker 2: put together stuff well, but these are detailed piness there
- 25:56Speaker 2: and even the detail around the little huts like there's
- 25:59Speaker 2: there's there's carrying, you know, like like a Japanese garden
- 26:02Speaker 2: style hot It's immaculately put together. The timberwork is impeccable,
- 26:06Speaker 2: and just a big cock sitting in the middlevels just
- 26:10Speaker 2: looking out at you. So but the one, my favorite
- 26:17Speaker 2: reasoning behind it when if you're going to if there
- 26:19Speaker 2: are two people, two lads are gonna have an argument
- 26:21Speaker 2: in the Japanese bar. But where it originated my favorite one,
- 26:24Speaker 2: if I was decided with either one of the lads,
- 26:26Speaker 2: would be one of the stories which it tells of
- 26:29Speaker 2: a demon who fell in love with a woman and
- 26:31Speaker 2: then hid inside her vagina a likely thing to do,
- 26:34Speaker 2: and then bit off her newly WID's penis twice. Now
- 26:40Speaker 2: there's there'll be a hole, there'll be some holes and
- 26:42Speaker 2: storage here and there's a hole in that story.
- 26:45Speaker 4: You know, you know you wouldn't go in again.
- 26:49Speaker 2: Well, here's how how how do you grow back? Is what? Anyway?
- 26:55Speaker 2: But here's where, here's where I'm got interested. She then
- 26:59Speaker 2: saw help from a blacksmith who made her a metal
- 27:02Speaker 2: dildo essentially, and it broke the teeth of the demon
- 27:06Speaker 2: and he fucked clean off for good. So yeah. They
- 27:11Speaker 2: later then enshrined it in Kanayama Shrine as a sort
- 27:14Speaker 2: of a commemoration, So they commemorated the first steel dildo
- 27:20Speaker 2: and from then on then it was like on the
- 27:22Speaker 2: Mickey do you know what I mean? I thought it
- 27:29Speaker 2: was one of the best stories. I mean, I don't
- 27:32Speaker 2: be coming at me with like, you know.
- 27:34Speaker 4: Metal Mickey didn't.
- 27:36Speaker 2: They were smit than this, that and the other. Nah,
- 27:39Speaker 2: I want to hear stories like that. That was trumt.
- 27:42Speaker 4: That's what you want to do if you got it.
- 27:43Speaker 4: If you've got a demon hidden up inside jo Bite
- 27:45Speaker 4: and Mickey's off, you give him a Mickey. He won't forget.
- 27:48Speaker 2: This is exactly there my thinking behind it. She went
- 27:50Speaker 2: a blacksmith.
- 27:51Speaker 4: No, like, who's who's to say everybody's a busy tom.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Who's to say it wasn't like you know, she went
- 27:59Speaker 2: to the Japanese he's Fred Dibner at the time.
- 28:01Speaker 4: Have we got two friend nibbness this early in the show.
- 28:04Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not going to do Fred doing
- 28:06Speaker 2: a Japanese accent, like, so he's just hammered away on
- 28:10Speaker 2: an She's like, I have a small problem upstairs and
- 28:15Speaker 2: down the stairs. It's fucking downstairs for do you want
- 28:21Speaker 2: me to get the wife? Oh wait, your wife fucked off?
- 28:30Speaker 4: You O my wife?
- 28:32Speaker 2: You me a wife?
- 28:33Speaker 4: The well, look, come here, we don't know how you
- 28:36Speaker 4: folks celebrate the transition from winter to spring in your
- 28:39Speaker 4: own way. I'd love a story like Tom's there where
- 28:42Speaker 4: he sees the first snowdrops growing in the side of
- 28:44Speaker 4: the road and that's when he knows that spring. Personally,
- 28:47Speaker 4: I've got kids in school. There's no spring, summer, autumn, winter,
- 28:50Speaker 4: before the summer holidays, the summer holidays, and after the
- 28:53Speaker 4: summer holidays. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just one big long
- 28:58Speaker 4: cold season with two months of summ We're in the
- 29:00Speaker 4: middle of it there where you're looking for cool camps
- 29:02Speaker 4: and ship like that. Yeah. No, I get, I get,
- 29:06Speaker 4: I get.
- 29:06Speaker 2: I'm trying to. I've tried to dress it up here
- 29:08Speaker 2: like I've liveded some sort of dream world. But look,
- 29:12Speaker 2: might is similar to your world. I just have snowdrops.
- 29:15Speaker 4: Well, I've got like you know, like the the the
- 29:18Speaker 4: the blue street lights that fry your brain, come on
- 29:22Speaker 4: a little bit later in the night and you're like,
- 29:23Speaker 4: thank fuck, it's springing. Look this horseshit all the live
- 29:27Speaker 4: long day. But yeah, there we go. That's what those
- 29:30Speaker 4: lads do all around the world. Lots of crazy nonsense.
- 29:34Speaker 4: If we missed anybody, any of them, please, by all means,
- 29:36Speaker 4: let us know if you've been at the blowing up
- 29:38Speaker 4: of the boog, by all means, don't keep it to yourself.
- 29:40Speaker 4: But that's enough about those lads for the time being. Tom,
- 29:42Speaker 4: We're going to move on, as we are known to
- 29:44Speaker 4: do in the Tom and Jerry Show, to segment two
- 29:46Speaker 4: when we just don't talk about any old lad. We
- 29:48Speaker 4: find one lad that is out ladded every other lad.
- 29:51Speaker 4: This we can say, holy ship. Then there's this lad.
- 29:55Speaker 2: Now there's that guy you know, like you often have
- 29:59Speaker 2: said it to your you know, somebody's you know. So
- 30:03Speaker 2: you can't hate the hustle, but.
- 30:05Speaker 4: At the same time not the grind.
- 30:06Speaker 2: You can't not the grind, but at the same time,
- 30:08Speaker 2: right Jesus Christ, Sometimes yo keep keeping them for the
- 30:12Speaker 2: wonderfu a better phrase, keep your power dry. And there
- 30:14Speaker 2: are a.
- 30:14Speaker 4: Couple of There are a couple of things going on
- 30:16Speaker 4: here now, Tom, there is number one. What would you
- 30:21Speaker 4: do if you won the lottery? Yeah, ever work again
- 30:24Speaker 4: a day in your life. And then the other side
- 30:26Speaker 4: of that is if you find something you love doing,
- 30:29Speaker 4: you'll never work a day in your life.
- 30:31Speaker 2: This is it. And combine the two. Jar combine the
- 30:33Speaker 2: two where you get some working capital to really get
- 30:37Speaker 2: your passion going.
- 30:39Speaker 4: Some people, a lottery victory is not the end, it's
- 30:42Speaker 4: the beginning.
- 30:43Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. He this is a gentleman. He was a
- 30:47Speaker 2: lot of winner in the UK. Sixty five year old fellow.
- 30:49Speaker 2: He won two point four million pounds, which I not
- 30:52Speaker 2: chicken scratched him. It's not sure, it's just shy. It's
- 30:55Speaker 2: about three million euros, which if you kept your head
- 30:57Speaker 2: down and works, you know, and did it smart in
- 30:59Speaker 2: your like if you were you know, let's say in
- 31:03Speaker 2: your sixties. Because he properly got sentenced on it the
- 31:05Speaker 2: other day, but he got nabbed maybe three four years.
- 31:09Speaker 2: But like he you'd, you'd you could, you could look,
- 31:15Speaker 2: he ain't gonna make one hundred and sixty five, so no,
- 31:18Speaker 2: I mean like you could you could squirrel it away
- 31:22Speaker 2: and just live a comfortable life.
- 31:24Speaker 4: There's there's a movie clip going around, the movie Escapes,
- 31:27Speaker 4: but I've watched it a couple of times. Just get
- 31:28Speaker 4: Serpety on Instagram and all this kind of thing, and
- 31:30Speaker 4: it's got John Goodman explaining to Mark Wahlberg about fuck
- 31:32Speaker 4: you money. Yeah, it's like any gambler that makes two
- 31:35Speaker 4: million dollars, that's fuck you money. You buy a house
- 31:38Speaker 4: that you never need another repayment on it. You buy
- 31:40Speaker 4: a reliable Japanese car, buy two of them, one for
- 31:43Speaker 4: you and one for the wife that's just going to
- 31:45Speaker 4: take over for the next fifteen years with annual maintenance.
- 31:47Speaker 4: He never set foot outside the day day in your life.
- 31:51Speaker 4: You eat well, your holiday well, nobody can tell you
- 31:54Speaker 4: do it. And if you've got two million dollars your
- 31:56Speaker 4: set for life, that's fucking money. And anything after that, yeah,
- 32:01Speaker 4: it's just greed. Son. And yeah, so two point four
- 32:04Speaker 4: million pounds sterling for this, for this gentleman that he
- 32:07Speaker 4: wanted this, this sixty son again, not a young man,
- 32:10Speaker 4: a sixty some odd year old man named sorry I
- 32:14Speaker 4: nearly buried there that he had this. Oh that's not
- 32:16Speaker 4: the name name John Spyby. We think we're doing all
- 32:19Speaker 4: right with that name. S p I b y. If
- 32:21Speaker 4: you don't pronounce that Spyby, sorry, we'll give you your
- 32:24Speaker 4: money back. And his son, so John Eric Spyby, who
- 32:28Speaker 4: was the older dude. Then he got his money landed
- 32:32Speaker 4: in with his son Lee and Callum and indeed John
- 32:36Speaker 4: Juni or Soul. Between the four of them, they said, hey,
- 32:39Speaker 4: what do you know? We've got a whole pile of
- 32:41Speaker 4: capital all of a sudden. What will we do with it? Tom?
- 32:45Speaker 2: You see, this is the thing Engel investors really want.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Typically they're looking for a good moral business to throw
- 32:51Speaker 2: that way behind to make him look good. Not many
- 32:54Speaker 2: are coming to help this guy on board. So the
- 32:56Speaker 2: two point four million pounds really got things going back
- 33:00Speaker 2: in twenty ten when he when he was aged sixty five,
- 33:04Speaker 2: When he was aged sixty five, so he decided, you
- 33:09Speaker 2: know what, while we're at ATHLETs and we have a
- 33:11Speaker 2: bit of capital, and I've the three lets going, why
- 33:15Speaker 2: don't we set up our own lab here in Wigan
- 33:18Speaker 2: or Salford which is technically Wigan Greater Manchester area. You know,
- 33:24Speaker 2: it wouldn't be a million miles. It's up north.
- 33:26Speaker 4: I do, I don't, I don't. It's all inland to me, buddy,
- 33:29Speaker 4: I don't divide it up.
- 33:30Speaker 2: No, the North is definitely different there, it's definitely different.
- 33:33Speaker 2: But they go by this it is. It is because
- 33:36Speaker 2: he went straight in arcos, like he decided to set
- 33:39Speaker 2: up his own, his own prescription pill making business. He
- 33:44Speaker 2: wasn't making narcotics. He was making prescription pills which.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Took on like phonies on accent shure.
- 33:50Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, is that And he was selling
- 33:53Speaker 2: them on average. Now it's a crime, Tom, Yeah, it's
- 33:56Speaker 2: definitely a crime. But he was selling them for as
- 33:58Speaker 2: little as sixty five pence a pill. Do you know
- 34:01Speaker 2: what I mean?
- 34:01Speaker 4: So you know you knock off xanax, Ask good money, buddy, I.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Get, I guess it is. And there was a little
- 34:06Speaker 2: something in me kind of going, Okay, I know he
- 34:09Speaker 2: was in it for the money, of course he was,
- 34:10Speaker 2: But he didn't go into cocaine, he didn't go into
- 34:13Speaker 2: heroin in.
- 34:14Speaker 4: Going to crack more than that in a second.
- 34:17Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? He this? Yeah, I mean,
- 34:19Speaker 2: I'm not excusing the guy, but this is what he
- 34:21Speaker 2: made his big money with. Now, over at what it
- 34:24Speaker 2: would seem like a twelve year period, he just made
- 34:29Speaker 2: these uncompletely unregulated copies, which is no mean feat when
- 34:34Speaker 2: you think about it, Jre. I mean, there's a there's
- 34:36Speaker 2: a guy. But I'm pretty sure if you googled on
- 34:38Speaker 2: incognito or on the Black Dark Web, you could easily
- 34:41Speaker 2: find how to make narcotics. But it's fellow went into
- 34:45Speaker 2: how to make Yeah, no different pills for the people's
- 34:49Speaker 2: different ailments typically, And I'm guessing some people were taking him,
- 34:53Speaker 2: as you know, recreationally, but.
- 34:55Speaker 4: Some people, Tom, some people, well you don't think like
- 34:58Speaker 4: you think his main course of business was like helping
- 35:00Speaker 4: out the local nursing homes.
- 35:02Speaker 2: Well, what I would imagine, what I would imagine is
- 35:05Speaker 2: that he was It was probably a lot of it
- 35:08Speaker 2: was going to people who just coulding the order, couldn't
- 35:11Speaker 2: get a prescription for it, and probably had become addicted
- 35:14Speaker 2: while they did have the prescription for it, you know,
- 35:16Speaker 2: like away.
- 35:17Speaker 4: I think it was largely ninety nine percent recreational drug users. Tom,
- 35:21Speaker 4: this fucker one run and make a wish over here.
- 35:23Speaker 4: So he wasn't.
- 35:24Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. But it's why wouldn't he make cocaine?
- 35:26Speaker 2: Why wouldn't he make heroin?
- 35:27Speaker 4: I'll answer that question now, Tom, Okay, I would imagine
- 35:30Speaker 4: that when he got his two point four million pounds
- 35:32Speaker 4: sterling of seed money, he decided that he would get
- 35:35Speaker 4: into the heavy narcotics industry, would get into the cokes
- 35:39Speaker 4: and the heroines and the pepsison that what knows what?
- 35:42Speaker 4: And then was told and knowing certain terms, what would
- 35:44Speaker 4: happen to him if he must lien on that business
- 35:45Speaker 4: in the greater Wigan area. So then he looked for
- 35:47Speaker 4: a niche for he could kind of go low level crack.
- 35:52Speaker 4: And I was like, well, and anybody making there as
- 35:55Speaker 4: a pan around here? No, do you mind if I do?
- 35:57Speaker 4: Just if I do it? Nelson? Quiet? All right, fair enough,
- 36:00Speaker 4: I'd say, that's exactly what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
- 36:03Speaker 2: So he ran it. It ran for ten years and
- 36:06Speaker 2: ran it.
- 36:06Speaker 4: Well, Tom, what do you do with his two point
- 36:08Speaker 4: four what do you run that up to?
- 36:09Speaker 2: So you ran it?
- 36:10Speaker 4: Wait?
- 36:10Speaker 2: He ended up opening two factories in Salford, which I
- 36:13Speaker 2: suppose Jesus, you know employment.
- 36:15Speaker 4: At the very least, and probably wouldn't have thought that
- 36:18Speaker 4: city decizes of Southward needed to fix an x factories.
- 36:20Speaker 4: But here we are.
- 36:21Speaker 2: He managed pretty much and greater ten x his money
- 36:26Speaker 2: as Grand Cordone would tell you to do with your
- 36:29Speaker 2: money if you you know these fellows you see on
- 36:31Speaker 2: TikTok and Instagram and go, what would you do if
- 36:33Speaker 2: you got a thousand dollars? Well, first, what I do
- 36:35Speaker 2: is an investment in a portfolio. This guy really ran
- 36:39Speaker 2: with that. He obviously went to one of those conferences
- 36:41Speaker 2: with I, you know, one of these big talking guys,
- 36:45Speaker 2: and he turned it into two hundred and eighty eight million.
- 36:48Speaker 4: Yeah, you're missing a decimal point, everybody. He didn't make
- 36:51Speaker 4: ten times his money. He made one hundred times Jesus.
- 36:53Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, I mean one hundred x. I mean that
- 36:55Speaker 2: is like anybody's got to take that, you know, business wise,
- 36:59Speaker 2: not take morality out of it. You gotta go, holy fuck,
- 37:04Speaker 2: like that is some going, you know, but had to
- 37:06Speaker 2: turn it around in ten years. That is some going. Now.
- 37:10Speaker 2: I can you imagine what a ball back he was like,
- 37:13Speaker 2: you know what I mean to take it from that,
- 37:14Speaker 2: because you know he was he was. He was bought
- 37:19Speaker 2: in a lot of gear and that's kind of what
- 37:21Speaker 2: got him napped. From what I can tell from one
- 37:23Speaker 2: of these he was buying you know, two hundred grand,
- 37:27Speaker 2: Like if you're buying fifty grand pieces of machinery. Somebody's
- 37:32Speaker 2: gonna go okay, right, a pill presser, you know, like.
- 37:38Speaker 4: You couldn't help. But notice you bought another pillow presser there,
- 37:40Speaker 4: mister spybey. Now how does that sit with what you're
- 37:43Speaker 4: claiming is a fruit and vench operation.
- 37:46Speaker 2: Well, it turns out I'm drying out all the peel
- 37:49Speaker 2: and I'm making eco friendly wood pellets for wood people,
- 37:53Speaker 2: wood pellet boilers. And yeah, that's where we're going with that.
- 37:56Speaker 4: I'm making you never you never eat a protein ball,
- 37:59Speaker 4: making protein balls small.
- 38:01Speaker 2: I was looking for bits of his dialogue like and
- 38:04Speaker 2: no doubt he reads like a bit of a dickhead here,
- 38:07Speaker 2: because any fellow gets makes a few pounds at all.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Needless say, he's making it off the back of fucking
- 38:11Speaker 2: addicts in a disadvantage. And it did, let me know,
- 38:16Speaker 2: defense the butts Wigan is not the Chelsea, a fucking
- 38:20Speaker 2: you know Chelsea too. It is a fucking working class
- 38:23Speaker 2: down in their look kind of area. And he came
- 38:24Speaker 2: out with a raising with e on the Jeff Bes
- 38:27Speaker 2: watched them bags. You've done well, But two hundred and
- 38:32Speaker 2: eighty eight million pounds wouldn't buy the shoes and them
- 38:35Speaker 2: lads cupboards, like not troubling them lads, but you gotta
- 38:38Speaker 2: you gotta somewhat admire.
- 38:39Speaker 4: That they can do. Walter whiteness of it all. Now,
- 38:44Speaker 4: you don't just walk around wigging with two hundred and
- 38:47Speaker 4: eighty five million pounds THEIRL in your back pocket unless
- 38:50Speaker 4: you want to get jump robbed. All this kind of
- 38:52Speaker 4: thing when you're a major player in the knockoff pharmaceuticals.
- 38:57Speaker 4: He wasn't just done Tom for all the rugs. He
- 39:00Speaker 4: was also done for all the guns because he tooled
- 39:03Speaker 4: himself up. He had a bit like yourself there with
- 39:06Speaker 4: the with the mini game behind there.
- 39:08Speaker 2: He had a lot of yeah, a lot of automatic weapons.
- 39:11Speaker 2: Like I mean, clearly, you know this wasn't the disort
- 39:16Speaker 2: where he was going to just go, look, I'm just
- 39:18Speaker 2: selling tablets. Clearly he needed to tool up. And I
- 39:22Speaker 2: mean the three the three boys all did are all
- 39:24Speaker 2: after getting time as well. But no doubt he had
- 39:28Speaker 2: a lot of security because you don't get two hundred,
- 39:31Speaker 2: you know, heading heading for another couple of years and
- 39:34Speaker 2: he probably i'd say maybe one more year he would
- 39:36Speaker 2: have got to the three hundred millions. Like you don't
- 39:40Speaker 2: you don't get across that without having some serious fucking
- 39:43Speaker 2: animals on your site. And the automatic weapons he had
- 39:45Speaker 2: on site didn't do him any favors whatsoever, but they
- 39:48Speaker 2: had to.
- 39:49Speaker 4: Argue them away to him. It's hard to say what
- 39:51Speaker 4: I'm just making them for the cash strapped nurse and
- 39:54Speaker 4: homes and ship.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Well they they you're double fist and colashing cups like
- 40:00Speaker 2: knockoff and as you said, winter Green like it ain't
- 40:02Speaker 2: fucking happening. But also like sometimes they bump up these
- 40:05Speaker 2: numbers like oh you know he he made this that,
- 40:07Speaker 2: and you have to make him sound like they've had
- 40:09Speaker 2: the big fish. They actually and this is some capital
- 40:12Speaker 2: on site, do you know what I mean? Anybody walks
- 40:14Speaker 2: into like any of these fancy department store and you
- 40:17Speaker 2: look around and go, Jesus Christ, how much fucking gear
- 40:20Speaker 2: had they got on the ground in here? Like yeah,
- 40:22Speaker 2: he had two point five million tablets like on site
- 40:29Speaker 2: when they when they raided, which was worked on particular
- 40:33Speaker 2: tablets that they were particularly were like he wasn't just
- 40:35Speaker 2: sent to the UK. This was obviously going well abroad too.
- 40:38Speaker 4: Yeah, he'd he had, he had, he had made a
- 40:42Speaker 4: name for himself in the industry, which normally we would
- 40:44Speaker 4: credit people for doing. When you're when you're selling prescription
- 40:47Speaker 4: painkillers in the minute the middle of an opioid crisis,
- 40:50Speaker 4: you kind of go like, all right, Spiby, you go
- 40:52Speaker 4: ahead and enjoy the sixteen years in his Majesty's company
- 40:58Speaker 4: for the next six teen years there, buddy, because that's
- 41:01Speaker 4: where you're going to be. You're going to be in
- 41:02Speaker 4: the Gray Bar hotel for sixteen years. This man is
- 41:05Speaker 4: eighty years old right now. He's going to be in
- 41:07Speaker 4: jail until he's ninety six years of age, and the
- 41:10Speaker 4: rest of his son's all got between looking at it
- 41:14Speaker 4: here between nine twelve years piece. But what they've gotten
- 41:17Speaker 4: it Tom. I gotta tell you there's a world that
- 41:21Speaker 4: exists where John Spyby, with his two point four million
- 41:24Speaker 4: sterling is enjoying a wonderfully cushy life.
- 41:28Speaker 2: In ah.
- 41:30Speaker 4: Gay like Marbella. Yeah, and he's going down to get
- 41:35Speaker 4: a full English breakfast at the local pub every morning,
- 41:38Speaker 4: at the English papers, and go home and lab at
- 41:40Speaker 4: the pool sexy beast style.
- 41:42Speaker 2: Yeah. He looks like Lever, Yeah, looks like a looks
- 41:46Speaker 2: like a sofa, A creepy, creepy pink Kingsley just rock
- 41:49Speaker 2: it up, you know, and see him in years. But
- 41:52Speaker 2: he wasn't out jar. He wasn't from what I can see,
- 41:55Speaker 2: he was still living in Wigan, Like.
- 41:57Speaker 4: You know, that's what I'm saying There's that he had
- 41:59Speaker 4: just took his lot away and settled for that he
- 42:02Speaker 4: would live the rest of his natural life in Benny
- 42:04Speaker 4: dorm or wherever it might be, watching his phone with
- 42:08Speaker 4: the sound on on on the beach, like just having
- 42:11Speaker 4: a whale of a time. But instead.
- 42:15Speaker 2: It doesn't Yeah, it doesn't say what like surely you
- 42:18Speaker 2: know what I mean? He was he Like, at what
- 42:22Speaker 2: point was he going to start laundering it? Because at
- 42:25Speaker 2: this stage, what really, like I said, what Pingdom was
- 42:28Speaker 2: there fucking huge purchases of machinery going to the to
- 42:33Speaker 2: these one off fucking factories in in Salford, Like so
- 42:37Speaker 2: at what point do you go this last? We better
- 42:39Speaker 2: set up a chain of fucking barbers slash vape shops
- 42:42Speaker 2: or ten in beds tennant shops because I'm going to
- 42:46Speaker 2: have to go look legit here because we're rock where's
- 42:49Speaker 2: he keeping the two hundred and eighty eight million, Like
- 42:52Speaker 2: we're like there's sixty seven Million's worth of tablets were
- 42:55Speaker 2: found on site between the two, Like Marie, Yeah, let's
- 43:00Speaker 2: say there was two hundred million turned over in ten years.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Where the fuck did he put that? Like how many
- 43:06Speaker 2: properties he brought up to try? Like it doesn't I'm
- 43:09Speaker 2: sure he had some sort of cover story that he was,
- 43:12Speaker 2: you know at one point, but he to go ten years.
- 43:16Speaker 2: But he was a fully, fully oppert That's what they
- 43:18Speaker 2: couldn't get over. Was like the machinery and I think
- 43:21Speaker 2: he must have been pump. But there must been a point,
- 43:24Speaker 2: you know, like young guys going, you know, I'm just
- 43:25Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna sleep on the fucking factory floor. I'm
- 43:28Speaker 2: not gonna spend the bean on myself. I'm not even
- 43:30Speaker 2: gonna fucking cut my hair. I'm gonna put a look
- 43:32Speaker 2: everything i can into this to it's really up and running,
- 43:35Speaker 2: and then I'll kick back, Like at sixty five he
- 43:38Speaker 2: started this year. What stage at seventy five if he
- 43:42Speaker 2: got nabbed, at what stage was he thinking, I'm gonna
- 43:46Speaker 2: I'm gonna kick back and enjoy this.
- 43:47Speaker 3: Now.
- 43:48Speaker 4: I know what Tom, We've all seen breaking bad. We
- 43:50Speaker 4: know the whole the points of this world when they
- 43:51Speaker 4: hit success and they get money and they get power.
- 43:54Speaker 4: They don't like to give it up, even if they've
- 43:56Speaker 4: made more money than the lever, naturally spending their live,
- 43:58Speaker 4: long lives.
- 44:00Speaker 2: I suppose, you know, the metal detector societies of the
- 44:05Speaker 2: Greater Manchester would probably looking for barrels now, you know,
- 44:09Speaker 2: Narco style built buried under the ground full of cash,
- 44:13Speaker 2: because what else was he doing. Spiby's millions, Spyby's millions,
- 44:16Speaker 2: Spiby's millions, and me tellia one thing, Airman Spyby, Tom
- 44:19Speaker 2: this lad Spiby.
- 44:20Speaker 4: He could have lived with his two point four million
- 44:23Speaker 4: lottery win a happy man. But if he had done that,
- 44:26Speaker 4: he would absolutely not have had his life turned into
- 44:30Speaker 4: the next Guy Ritchie movie, because that's absolutely what's going
- 44:33Speaker 4: to fucking happen. He would have never made it a
- 44:34Speaker 4: Tom of Jerry show, which I think is probably a
- 44:35Speaker 4: bigger accolade than a bigger accolade. But you rest assured
- 44:38Speaker 4: Guy Richie was just like sitting down in his in
- 44:41Speaker 4: his Cockney manner, and he's like, oh, omag is oupen
- 44:43Speaker 4: the piper here? See what's going on?
- 44:45Speaker 2: Man?
- 44:46Speaker 4: Means two point four million guns and drugs and Jesus,
- 44:52Speaker 4: how many nov.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Does do me now? Deddy Tyres in the corner, just
- 44:56Speaker 2: going what I can do?
- 44:58Speaker 4: I know, Charlie on him on the phone.
- 45:02Speaker 2: Now, oh oh, Jason, Jason, my, can you do an over?
- 45:08Speaker 4: Just can I just not speak? How old is this guy?
- 45:12Speaker 4: Old is this spider guy? Sixty five? You're telling me
- 45:16Speaker 4: Bob Hoskins is dead? What the fuck am I going
- 45:18Speaker 4: to do?
- 45:18Speaker 3: Now?
- 45:20Speaker 2: Finny Jones could play sixty five, no problem.
- 45:22Speaker 4: Jones could do sixty five now.
- 45:24Speaker 2: No problem, no prob jeseus, what do you call it?
- 45:26Speaker 4: What do you call that little fucking duffers? He's a
- 45:28Speaker 4: good actor like him. I shouldn't call him a deafer.
- 45:30Speaker 4: Toby Jones to Toby Jones.
- 45:32Speaker 2: He was in that. Have you seen the Detectorists, the
- 45:35Speaker 2: Metal Detector Show?
- 45:36Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that's that's my Spidery right there.
- 45:38Speaker 4: A little and he.
- 45:39Speaker 2: Can do an people, He can do an excellent no problem.
- 45:42Speaker 2: He'd be brilliant. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay.
- 45:44Speaker 4: All right, there's get some benzos and I don't know
- 45:46Speaker 4: what the fuck they're doing here, but there you go.
- 45:49Speaker 4: We are looking out for that movie coming. I dare
- 45:51Speaker 4: say that's coming. You're fucking you know what you know,
- 45:53Speaker 4: who's you know who's old and you think he is?
- 45:55Speaker 4: You know who's like in his mid fifties, late fifties.
- 45:57Speaker 4: Jason Statum, Oh he is, yeah, yeah, yeah, get Jason
- 46:00Speaker 4: State them to do old Spivey there now and then
- 46:02Speaker 4: like just mule kick.
- 46:04Speaker 2: Pens just he'll kick it fucking albums around the streets. Awaken. Yeah,
- 46:13Speaker 2: whoever broke gape, you need some painkillers for it.
- 46:15Speaker 4: We're lucky. I know, in fact, you're kicking out millions
- 46:19Speaker 4: of them a year.
- 46:21Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, no, we'll look at it. I would
- 46:23Speaker 2: imagine Jason States would do exactly that accent anyway, because
- 46:27Speaker 2: the American will.
- 46:29Speaker 4: Do Jason stadiums.
- 46:30Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is best. Get all the lads that
- 46:33Speaker 2: did Full Monty, get Sean Bean in us, get Sean
- 46:38Speaker 2: Bean in it to play, and just round up the
- 46:42Speaker 2: lads who played his somes in in Game of Thrones
- 46:44Speaker 2: and there you go.
- 46:45Speaker 4: There you go. I'm sure one thing Tom that all else.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Did we write another movie? I think we did.
- 46:52Speaker 4: Man, we gotta stop giving this away for free, baby. No, actually,
- 46:56Speaker 4: our man John Spyby wrote this movie movie. We just
- 46:58Speaker 4: put accents to it. But that's what we do with
- 47:00Speaker 4: the Tom and Jerry Show. Yeah, we we we We
- 47:04Speaker 4: comment on the goals on and the current affairs of
- 47:08Speaker 4: the world, the things that are happening right now. But
- 47:10Speaker 4: we also talk in the final segment of the show,
- 47:12Speaker 4: Tom about things that happened way back when you and
- 47:15Speaker 4: me ain't no spring chickens were boating o our mid forties.
- 47:17Speaker 3: Baby.
- 47:18Speaker 4: We've seen old ways die off and new ways come back.
- 47:20Speaker 4: And that's what we talk about in the last segment,
- 47:23Speaker 4: which we call we remember when when I was a young.
- 47:27Speaker 3: Lad twenty or thirty or forty years ago.
- 47:31Speaker 2: You are so mean for picking my brain when it
- 47:34Speaker 2: comes to these things. I was literally only talking to
- 47:36Speaker 2: herself about it, blessed than a week ago.
- 47:39Speaker 4: When you're talking to him. That's that's why, that's why
- 47:41Speaker 4: you're not listening right now to the Tom and Francis Show.
- 47:44Speaker 4: Right off. You know what I mean?
- 47:46Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know to me, baby, you
- 47:48Speaker 2: know what I like to hear. And Jerry just sends
- 47:50Speaker 2: me on a text and he said he doesn't even
- 47:52Speaker 2: send me a suggest to text anymore. Sometimes suggester text,
- 47:56Speaker 2: but it'll just be a nipple no normally, but he
- 47:59Speaker 2: actually write me a lovely description of what he's thinking.
- 48:02Speaker 2: It's like, oh, Jerry, that's how you're playing my tune.
- 48:06Speaker 2: You're playing my tune here now, and it was a
- 48:08Speaker 2: great I remember when this one.
- 48:11Speaker 4: It's this one, this one, we're hoping. Let's let's see,
- 48:13Speaker 4: maybe we we've time yet to make it real. Shit, Tom.
- 48:17Speaker 2: Rubbing my hands together. That's me.
- 48:20Speaker 4: That's what just built up. Here's what you know, we
- 48:23Speaker 4: remember when we like to talk about things that you
- 48:25Speaker 4: don't see all that much anymore, or if you do
- 48:28Speaker 4: see it, it's a pale limitation of what you and
- 48:31Speaker 4: I grew up with. Tom. And here's the thing. We
- 48:35Speaker 4: didn't grow up in the fifteen hundreds, okay, no, nineteen eighties,
- 48:38Speaker 4: nineteen nineties, that kind of thing. So we don't want
- 48:40Speaker 4: to talk about running barefoot up and down the streets
- 48:43Speaker 4: through fucking clogs of cowshit. You know, No, there's not
- 48:47Speaker 4: a hole aside.
- 48:49Speaker 2: These are typically slightly, slightly, just slightly different to what
- 48:54Speaker 2: they are nowadays, but vastly in a lot of ways
- 48:57Speaker 2: because there it typically, as they say, do you know
- 49:01Speaker 2: we're in the we've lived in the digital age. We
- 49:03Speaker 2: grew up in an analogue and some of these things
- 49:05Speaker 2: are a bit more hends on. Like Team Jerry mentioned
- 49:08Speaker 2: to me, Yeah, what if Tamu was a real thing,
- 49:11Speaker 2: Because if.
- 49:11Speaker 4: Timu was a real place, that's that's that's that's the content.
- 49:15Speaker 4: We better just blow it out here that we're talking
- 49:19Speaker 4: about markets. We're talking about not the markets and the
- 49:23Speaker 4: four x trading and the you know, if you've got money,
- 49:25Speaker 4: you vist put it in the markets we're putting it.
- 49:27Speaker 4: We're talking about actual small town markets that would appear
- 49:32Speaker 4: in my hometown of Carme Across would appear once a
- 49:35Speaker 4: week tom to market day Friday. And I dare say,
- 49:37Speaker 4: and your time, it might have been Friday, Friday, Friday,
- 49:40Speaker 4: someone else's time. They would have had markets on a
- 49:42Speaker 4: on a on a Monday. And we're talking about market
- 49:45Speaker 4: stall setting up on the street and you're selling their wares.
- 49:48Speaker 2: You get in the broad daylight. You gotta be you
- 49:49Speaker 2: gotta firm this up for people, because people in their
- 49:51Speaker 2: minds are thinking of artists and farmers markets that propably
- 49:54Speaker 2: Saturday mornings nowadays with you know, beautiful hour though fresh fish,
- 49:59Speaker 2: homemade No, we're talking.
- 50:01Speaker 4: And stretched fudge. We're all that kind of shit. No
- 50:04Speaker 4: like and and and that is kind of what it
- 50:05Speaker 4: has evolved into. But when we had markets, when we
- 50:08Speaker 4: were small, basically it was a shop outside, several shops outside,
- 50:12Speaker 4: not the square on the square on the square on
- 50:15Speaker 4: the square. Yeah, And I dare say, Tom, I'm thinking,
- 50:20Speaker 4: and I need to go back and check. But I
- 50:21Speaker 4: dare say that the market day in Charrot Across coincided
- 50:24Speaker 4: with the cattle market. The cattle market took place down
- 50:29Speaker 4: in the cattle market at the bottom of the time.
- 50:30Speaker 4: The men would go down to cell coaus and all
- 50:32Speaker 4: that kind of thing, and the ladies would go up
- 50:34Speaker 4: to the market and do marketplace shit. Everybody would gather
- 50:37Speaker 4: up at the end of the day and off home.
- 50:39Speaker 2: And it's funny. I saw one the other day, a
- 50:42Speaker 2: mini version of one, but it's outside the market in
- 50:44Speaker 2: another local talent care. But it's not it's not at
- 50:48Speaker 2: all marketing, but it's all the stuff they have. There
- 50:51Speaker 2: was like three stalls, all nice detailer TechEd onto the
- 50:54Speaker 2: side and vans that were, you know, set up for
- 50:56Speaker 2: these things. But it was one undred do you know
- 51:00Speaker 2: when you go, oh, that's not for the mart. But
- 51:02Speaker 2: yet you can still get those balloons with like little
- 51:04Speaker 2: rice inside them. The kids pop up and down on
- 51:06Speaker 2: their hand. Yeah. Yeah, this was one hundred percent. Not
- 51:10Speaker 2: for women or children, this was one hundred I just
- 51:14Speaker 2: had a gain there because it was across the road
- 51:15Speaker 2: from the pedro station and there was I was gonna
- 51:17Speaker 2: buy a stick and just a walk a stick of sorts,
- 51:20Speaker 2: but I felt I'd be you know, stolen valor to
- 51:23Speaker 2: a certain degree. You know, you know, I don't I
- 51:27Speaker 2: don't need a stick. But like they had ivan mech
- 51:30Speaker 2: they had fencer batteries, they had you know, they had
- 51:33Speaker 2: dozing guns. They had those curry yolks for holding electric fence,
- 51:37Speaker 2: and they had they had all this artists and then
- 51:39Speaker 2: good Wellies not the ship Wellies didn't good well which
- 51:42Speaker 2: is it was. It was counterintuitive to what the markets
- 51:46Speaker 2: where we were young, because while you might have a
- 51:49Speaker 2: good pair of runners that you'd get one time of
- 51:51Speaker 2: the year, you know from an actual sports shop. Yes,
- 51:55Speaker 2: this was much more lighter on the pocket because and
- 51:59Speaker 2: I'm on my linefe j I will never forget it.
- 52:02Speaker 2: There was a like a two week period where the
- 52:04Speaker 2: market yard in tip it was was a good sized market,
- 52:07Speaker 2: like there was maybe twenty stalls. Now it's down to
- 52:10Speaker 2: like two three stalls, but it's it's opposite now a
- 52:14Speaker 2: very nicely constructed fruit and vege continuous market. But you
- 52:22Speaker 2: could there was a pair of wait for this Mike Airmax.
- 52:32Speaker 4: What if team it was a play star.
- 52:34Speaker 2: And it literally was if I remember going, you know,
- 52:38Speaker 2: like you could nearly there and I mean only like
- 52:41Speaker 2: only if you stop for a second, because they made
- 52:43Speaker 2: that the m really tight like so did look like
- 52:46Speaker 2: and then quickly and then but the bubble, the bubble
- 52:50Speaker 2: on the side did not fucking squeeze injured.
- 52:52Speaker 4: It was one We're going to get into it now, body,
- 52:55Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you so just for just for full disclosure,
- 53:00Speaker 4: markets are not gone, as Tom says he was at
- 53:01Speaker 4: one there the other day. There still is a market
- 53:04Speaker 4: in Cartacross, but it's a pale imitation of how big
- 53:07Speaker 4: it used to be. It's as Tom says, there, it's
- 53:09Speaker 4: down to two or three, four or five stalls some
- 53:11Speaker 4: such and still to still to this day in Cartacross
- 53:14Speaker 4: you will get markets selling powertools and garden ornaments. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 53:21Speaker 4: But the market used to be in cart Across, and
- 53:23Speaker 4: I dare say down and Tip and everywhere around the country.
- 53:26Speaker 4: Thirty to forty stalls, a metal frame stalls covered in blue.
- 53:33Speaker 2: And white red white. It used for windbreakers at the beach,
- 53:38Speaker 2: exactly kind of stuff like yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 53:40Speaker 4: And you would be talking about entire clothes shops operating
- 53:44Speaker 4: out of a van. Yeah, entire shoe shops operating out
- 53:47Speaker 4: of a van. Pull up in the morning, set up
- 53:49Speaker 4: your stall, put up the racks of clothing, clothing, put
- 53:52Speaker 4: the clothes on it, stick around a little about six
- 53:55Speaker 4: o'clock in the day. Sell and there was no machine
- 54:00Speaker 4: to tap. I'll put it like that.
- 54:02Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
- 54:03Speaker 4: Because you bagged everything up, you put it back in
- 54:06Speaker 4: the van, and you drove off to drop it the
- 54:07Speaker 4: next day. Yeah, you drove to already the next day,
- 54:09Speaker 4: you drove to Kingscot or wherever it was the next
- 54:11Speaker 4: market going on. And there was breathing room only at
- 54:16Speaker 4: these markets on market day. Oh they'd be fucking rammed,
- 54:19Speaker 4: because rammed wouldn't covered.
- 54:21Speaker 2: But to their to their credit, if like I said,
- 54:25Speaker 2: they were a lot easier on the pocket. But if
- 54:26Speaker 2: a fellow was in need of a pair of work
- 54:28Speaker 2: boots or a hive his jacket, I mean it was
- 54:33Speaker 2: you know, it was, it was pure China. The stuff
- 54:35Speaker 2: was coming in bulk from but they were as good
- 54:38Speaker 2: as you need.
- 54:38Speaker 1: Now.
- 54:38Speaker 2: You did not get the lie the length of time
- 54:41Speaker 2: that you, nobody would have of a good pair of
- 54:42Speaker 2: wether And.
- 54:43Speaker 4: As you said yourself there, Tom, I gotta tell you
- 54:47Speaker 4: when the when the when the pump up rebox came
- 54:50Speaker 4: out in the air nineties and everybody wanted to pump
- 54:52Speaker 4: up rebox. Pretty much everybody at their school had pump
- 54:55Speaker 4: up rebox with the bubble in the tray in the
- 54:57Speaker 4: in the tongue of it. You can pump that bubble
- 54:59Speaker 4: all you fucking but nothing that was doing nothing. I
- 55:04Speaker 4: had a pair and wait to hear this, I had
- 55:06Speaker 4: a pair of number lens. Yeah, where you get your
- 55:11Speaker 4: where you get all your your knockoff stuff? And nobody
- 55:15Speaker 4: really cared and nobody really and it was bang for
- 55:19Speaker 4: your book, Tom. Think about the times we're telling about
- 55:20Speaker 4: here now, the mid to late eighties and beyond. Like
- 55:23Speaker 4: you know, Ireland wasn't exactly.
- 55:25Speaker 2: We had nothing until the early two thousands, with no money,
- 55:28Speaker 2: no money, nobody at any money like it was like that.
- 55:32Speaker 2: It was not a shameful thing to go and buy
- 55:34Speaker 2: your you know, your left jacket or your puffer jacket
- 55:37Speaker 2: at the market chair because people go class number one.
- 55:40Speaker 2: They were kind of getting stuff into small towns that
- 55:43Speaker 2: you would probably have to get go to the city
- 55:45Speaker 2: to get the genuine article. Do you know that kind
- 55:47Speaker 2: of way, so was as good.
- 55:48Speaker 4: As not for nothing. You weren't gonna in Carrickmacross. You
- 55:51Speaker 4: weren't going to buy a pair of pump up rebox.
- 55:53Speaker 4: That wasn't the shop there that would sell that. Best
- 55:55Speaker 4: you could do with the knockoff ones from the market.
- 55:58Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know, I do not know.
- 56:02Speaker 2: I don't know. Did it well, think of it? Well,
- 56:07Speaker 2: think of it. I don't know. If clothing brands and
- 56:12Speaker 2: stuff like at the time women's dresses, small little wind
- 56:17Speaker 2: up toys, they would rattle around it. I don't think
- 56:18Speaker 2: it would have made much of a dint in the
- 56:21Speaker 2: original manufacturer's bottom line because folks like us, and I know,
- 56:27Speaker 2: I say, folks like us. You go to the milk
- 56:29Speaker 2: market Limerick and now again it's all artists and Jesus
- 56:34Speaker 2: and all that. But still on the outside there's still
- 56:36Speaker 2: where you can get your you know, Christian dour perfume.
- 56:41Speaker 2: You can get you know, you can get all all
- 56:43Speaker 2: the knockoff gear still like and there's very charming people
- 56:46Speaker 2: trying to sell it.
- 56:47Speaker 4: Sage, so.
- 56:51Speaker 2: Goop for a minute. But they that used to that
- 56:58Speaker 2: used to be your own outlet forgetting that kind of thing.
- 57:01Speaker 2: And you were never going to be going, oh, well,
- 57:03Speaker 2: do you know what I'll save up for the Melola Bloddix.
- 57:08Speaker 4: It wasn't gonna happen. You were going to get something
- 57:10Speaker 4: nice at the market. You would go into an actual
- 57:12Speaker 4: brick and mortar shop if you were going to a wedding. Yeah,
- 57:15Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. But like you know,
- 57:19Speaker 4: ninety percent of the country was wearing stuff that bought
- 57:21Speaker 4: in the markets, and proudly so, Tom, And there was
- 57:23Speaker 4: no as you say, there's no real stigma to it
- 57:26Speaker 4: unless you were in the playground and you got caught
- 57:28Speaker 4: wearing minders instead of But you gotta be honest, switch you, Tom,
- 57:32Speaker 4: I get up and I didn't give a fuck about
- 57:34Speaker 4: much or any of that. Now here's what I want
- 57:37Speaker 4: to say as well. I was a young man, you
- 57:39Speaker 4: were a young man many moons ago. But we would
- 57:42Speaker 4: find ourselves at these marketplaces generally, you know, you'd be
- 57:45Speaker 4: brought it wouldn't be a case of you know what, No,
- 57:47Speaker 4: I'm ten, I'm going to stay at home. No you're not.
- 57:49Speaker 4: You're fucking comming.
- 57:50Speaker 2: We're going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you're in ten.
- 57:52Speaker 4: I had no heed in the market, Tom, I had
- 57:55Speaker 4: no heed in clothes or work wear or boots or
- 57:58Speaker 4: renting like that. So what was there there for young
- 58:01Speaker 4: people such as ourselves to enjoy in the market. Several things?
- 58:05Speaker 2: And you see, this is my one later in life,
- 58:08Speaker 2: when I kind of thought about it, went that was
- 58:10Speaker 2: a bit dirty, alright, because and why what I was
- 58:12Speaker 2: drawn a point to was, you know, Tommy Hill figure
- 58:16Speaker 2: was not worried about Tony hillfinger like he wasn't. But
- 58:21Speaker 2: you get to the music and the video section. Now
- 58:24Speaker 2: you're talking and those people that industry does take it
- 58:27Speaker 2: in from, you know what I mean, from the knockoff stuff.
- 58:31Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to say it took a dent from me, buddy,
- 58:36Speaker 2: because what I would go to the market for, or
- 58:39Speaker 2: what I would find myself purchasing at the market, was.
- 58:43Speaker 4: In my innocence, Tom. What I later learned were counterfeit
- 58:48Speaker 4: CDs and counterfeit videos. As I was concerned these were
- 58:51Speaker 4: as legit as I was buying an extra vision, although
- 58:53Speaker 4: I would always question when you'd buy a CD and
- 58:56Speaker 4: you'd open it to get the liner notes and read
- 58:58Speaker 4: the lyrics of the songs, and it would just be
- 59:00Speaker 4: like a white on the inside, like something's just not
- 59:04Speaker 4: quite right here.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Well, the music ones typically came out were copied to
- 59:09Speaker 2: decent quality if.
- 59:11Speaker 4: You could listen to them, yes, but just like the
- 59:13Speaker 4: packaging of them would be just the bare minimum.
- 59:16Speaker 2: But there was a strong possibility that the video you know,
- 59:19Speaker 2: you go say, I'm gonna watch Ghostbusters. Oh there's some
- 59:21Speaker 2: kinds fucking head and two giant years in front of
- 59:23Speaker 2: me watching them.
- 59:24Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unwatchable, it's absolutely it's it's it's like watching
- 59:28Speaker 4: something that was taped off Telly ten years ago, and
- 59:31Speaker 4: the quality of us just degraded, the graded, the graded,
- 59:33Speaker 4: because folks, here's the here's how old me and Tom are.
- 59:38Speaker 4: We remember the days before online perisy, and it was
- 59:42Speaker 4: just perisy, old fashioned, offline, real world. Some lad with
- 59:47Speaker 4: five video recorders set up in the shed taping copies
- 59:51Speaker 4: of the full Monty to bring to the stands and
- 59:55Speaker 4: sell them to you for five pounds.
- 59:57Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and wherever they were getting Remember some fore
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: the got now because he put an order into buy
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: a load of blank video cases. Yes, and that's how
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: they nabbed him. He ordered like three hundred of them
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: or whatever.
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: And try try and be a little bit more subtle here, lad,
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: you know, we're doing our best to not let anyone,
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: but we gotta fuck.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: There wouldn't be a guard in site, like you know
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: what I mean?
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: No, no, no, this is this is like honestly, this
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: is like when they when you walk into a supermarket
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: and you buy a can of coke and look at
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: the barcode and it says for multi pack only, do
- 1:00:28Speaker 4: not break up, and you just go, you know, I want.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: To no different.
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna, you know, write by Congressman over this. CDs, movies, DVDs,
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: as it went on, these were all things that drew
- 1:00:42Speaker 4: me to the to the to the market. You could
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: also get toys. I remember being a wee bit old
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: for a lot of them. There's a lot of chineseium
- 1:00:48Speaker 4: as Tom would take a lot of little walk around robots,
- 1:00:50Speaker 4: and and I remember counterfeit superscore soakers were a big thing. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: I remember buying a counterfeit super socer when I was
- 1:00:58Speaker 4: like ten and I was like, this is it's a
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: super soaker, you pump it up. Nope, that handle was
- 1:01:03Speaker 4: solid molded plastic. It did not move. Shitty fucking water
- 1:01:07Speaker 4: pistol that wouldn't shoot five ft in front.
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: Of it, or he was lived or you know, you
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: put you put your finger into the into the to
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: pull the trigger and like you lose two layers of
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: skin because of the seam of plastic just to was
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: never rubbed.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: It was just never removed from it. No, no, no,
- 1:01:25Speaker 4: there the weare toys and rip off knock off go
- 1:01:29Speaker 4: botts and ship And to be honest with you, Tom,
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: if you go into your Average Deals or euro Price
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: or Mister Price or anything like that and look at
- 1:01:38Speaker 4: the toys and bits and pieces that are there, the
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: same will be.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:01:42Speaker 4: Later on I want to say, I just want to
- 1:01:43Speaker 4: say this one. Yeah you can rock on, okay. Later on.
- 1:01:45Speaker 4: It was a thing that that was fantastic, and that
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: was a lad in the back of a van who
- 1:01:54Speaker 4: would if you asked them, chip your PlayStation. I heard
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: about that.
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: You went to him with a PlayStation. You just and
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: you just left it with him. You just left it
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: within him and went all It was like leaving your
- 1:02:04Speaker 4: phone in to be fixed. And you came back and
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: after that it was quote unquote chipped with what I
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: don't know, but it would now play counterfeit PlayStation games,
- 1:02:14Speaker 4: right okay, which it wouldn't do otherwise you had to
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: to chip it. And there you go. And I'm sorry,
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: but people asking how PlayStation got to jump over a
- 1:02:25Speaker 4: Nintendo and Sega in the Wars. You can't chip a Nintendo,
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: can you not know? And you can't chip Sega and
- 1:02:34Speaker 4: you have a PlayStation all fucking bay baby.
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: Right I suppose? Yeah, Well there was I knew a guy.
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: He was ahead of accounts for Heatings and this is
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: this will tell you this is he was head of
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: accounts with Heatings. But they would buy in. He would
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: go out to Turkey, will say, because that's what most
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: of the year in Europe was made in the way
- 1:02:55Speaker 2: of Polar shirts, to say you wanted I'm going to
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: buy ten thousand Polar shirts or put an order in
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: for five Polo shirts. And what he was doing was
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: buying straight from the factory on badged Tommy Hill figure
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: standard Polar shirts. And that's why heats and the like
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: would have had good gear. Yeah, because he said, and
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: I said, hold on, so Tommy was making he says, yeah,
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: he's roding, riding boat rails.
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you cover boat bases and that you know
- 1:03:20Speaker 4: you do it. I mean sometimes you need that sort
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: of Frank Luca's mentality goes straight to the source and
- 1:03:25Speaker 4: buy the fruit of loom hoodies, yes, straight from the
- 1:03:28Speaker 4: factory and bring them over which which which I'm sorry, shit,
- 1:03:31Speaker 4: don't change him. That's what happens with what they call
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: drop shipping. You just go straight over and buy you know,
- 1:03:39Speaker 4: roller brushes and things like this and sell them directly
- 1:03:42Speaker 4: to the market.
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: That's just what people are doing. Well, this is what
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: it was. What he was surprised by his dad, Tommy
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: Hill figure the factory were happy for him to sell
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: it because they're like, oh no, you just sell it
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: without our logo on it, and you know you're getting
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: a good quality garment, but our logo will make it
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: two hundred percent more expensive. So if you want to
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: buy that anytime, no bother, but right now, since how
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: you're you know, a working class shall we say, department store,
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: you have the stuff. And note because we're going to
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: cover both sides in the fucking track anyway. That's just it.
- 1:04:13Speaker 4: That's it.
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: I don't know, was there this guy. It was only
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: ever fabled because by the time I think I was
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: in college, really would have been the only time I
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: would have been able to go back to our market
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: and avail this. Because so it was only ever fabled
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: that the video guy, if you knew the look and
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: the thing to ask, he could go to the other
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: side of the van and pull back maybe a bit
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: of recover, and he'd have what would be otherwise known.
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: As the blue movies.
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: There blue movies. He would have a good stock of that.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: But that would be like hidden under a fucking blanket.
- 1:04:47Speaker 4: Passed to you. You need to know the password. You
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: need to know the passwordsboard is where's the port? Not
- 1:04:56Speaker 4: insubtle about the market, but no, do you know, we'll
- 1:05:00Speaker 4: get into the illegalities of it. I just want to
- 1:05:02Speaker 4: say it before I forget, Like, the only thing that
- 1:05:04Speaker 4: was interesting young to young lads was movies, videos, chip PlayStations.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: Ah, cigarettes, yeah yeah yeah, thanks from from the boat,
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
- 1:05:14Speaker 4: Smokes from the boat, replica guns, airsoft, catapults, the whole lot.
- 1:05:22Speaker 4: And this was the one that I remember caused a
- 1:05:25Speaker 4: bit of a stink in Carton across there had to
- 1:05:28Speaker 4: be nobody said much about the market. Nobody said much
- 1:05:31Speaker 4: about the quality or anything like that. But there was
- 1:05:33Speaker 4: one time there was a stink raised when for a
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: short period in the market in you could buy knives,
- 1:05:39Speaker 4: You could buy army surplus gear.
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: Yeah, there was an army surplus gier down placed down
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: in Cork and it was it was you you go
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: into one nowadays and it's a bit of a fucking
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: memorbilia store like, but you could get former FCA boots
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: you know, and everything that were good quality gear. But
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: the one thing, and you talk about knives and stuff
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: that was doing the runs in the knife these and
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: there was only one or two lads to rib to
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: get their hands in them. It was a catapult known
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: as the black Widow.
- 1:06:05Speaker 4: Black Widow, black Widow the other day.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: So there was even an like a fall down piece
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: to strap onto your arm to keep it for a
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: steady shot, for a steady shot, and all these things
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: would put a fucking ball bearing through a fucking brick
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: wall like they were ludicrous things. But there was a
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: guy as it just popped into my head with vents
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: and videos, and there was there was a guy who
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: worked with He was from Bolton Glass in Wicklow, and
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: we talked about this years ago and he said there
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: was a guy they were even so rural. The video
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: guy would come around in a vent.
- 1:06:32Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the video Manua.
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: But he had an actual box staff section like the
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: carpenter boxed him off a section nice for the blues,
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: and he like he would know who to go to,
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: Like he wasn't going to like a family man with
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: the blue mink. He was going to the farmer lad
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: who was living up a lane by himself and sling
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: the van open, take your pick.
- 1:06:53Speaker 4: Going to sell it. I'm not gonna rent it to you,
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: but I will sell it to you, buddy. But yeah,
- 1:06:57Speaker 4: I remember that there was again a period for three
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: or four months where you could buy knives and like
- 1:07:03Speaker 4: obviously some twelve year old bought a knife and those
- 1:07:05Speaker 4: all kinds of stinks and that. Otherwise the market was
- 1:07:09Speaker 4: you know, international waters. You could pretty much do whatever
- 1:07:12Speaker 4: you want the time. I want to talk to you
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: about one thing here now, because we've talked a lot
- 1:07:15Speaker 4: about rural Ireland markets, because there were many Dublin and
- 1:07:21Speaker 4: I get idea say. Other cities also had these markets,
- 1:07:23Speaker 4: and when we would go up to Dublin, it was
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: a whole different ballgame because the market wasn't the thing.
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: Didn't seem to be a thing that came once a week.
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: The market was a thing that seemed to be there
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: every day.
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: Every day. Henry Street Smithfield had a day one as well.
- 1:07:36Speaker 4: They had Henry Street and Mary Street. I want to
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: say again, I don't dev Dublin up and it is still.
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: Here street, Moor Street Street.
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: Sorry, yes, sorry, morr Street still like that very much
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: to this day that you will get your market stalls
- 1:07:52Speaker 4: and they still sell all the Chinese nack of lighters
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: for you know, five lighters, you know, and and and
- 1:07:57Speaker 4: flowers and fire lighters and all this kind of crack.
- 1:07:59Speaker 4: That's fine. I'll tell you one thing that Dublin had
- 1:08:01Speaker 4: that no other markers I've ever been in my life
- 1:08:04Speaker 4: has had barkers. They had like animal barkers.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, what.
- 1:08:12Speaker 4: They were selling. And everybody will be familiar with cigarette
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: lighter two for a pound, yeah yeah, yeah. You get
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: the last of the Jay Charlie's last of this last
- 1:08:20Speaker 4: everything was last like you know, motherfucker. I can see
- 1:08:23Speaker 4: you've got stacks of it. You don't have the last
- 1:08:25Speaker 4: of anything, You've got heaps of it.
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but.
- 1:08:30Speaker 4: This kind of thing and you still hear it to
- 1:08:31Speaker 4: this day, and I'm not mad at I always I
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: always think it's nice to hear. And at Christmas you're
- 1:08:35Speaker 4: walking down was like last of the wrapping paper or
- 1:08:36Speaker 4: last of the wrapping paper, I gotta tell you, and
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: maybe down and Tippy's or roaring your heads off all
- 1:08:41Speaker 4: the time. We weren't doing that up and.
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: No, no, you did.
- 1:08:43Speaker 4: Were there, you wanted, but you didn't.
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: You had a captive audience to Jerry, you weren't dealing
- 1:08:47Speaker 2: with you know, like you go to More Street at
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: the time, very different vibe. Nowadays. I think they might
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: have a few flower sellers, but it's just not what
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: it used to be. But you're gonna have five different
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: lads selling what you're fucking selling. So whether it's predators
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: to you know, black cat bangers, you're gonna have five
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: different lads selling it. So they're all going to have
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: much like you know, the the great London markets that
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: we see on television and stuff like that, we're going oh,
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: it's check out me fish, beautiful fish, got a monk.
- 1:09:17Speaker 4: Fish, got on this morning.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: Got John Dorry, you wanted John Dory, Philix, your husband
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: will be all of you as soon as you brought
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: only play, you know. They did all the chat and
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: everything like, whereas the grumpy fuckers that I grew up
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: looking at they didn't want to nearly sell yet they
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: just had their hands in their pocket. It was hard
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: to get their attention.
- 1:09:37Speaker 4: They didn't have any.
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: Care for you whatsoever.
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: It was like whatever, man whatever, just like whatever, I
- 1:09:42Speaker 4: hate my life. I don't want to be out here.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't seem to me like you didn't get
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: the idea, like there was a proud seven generations and
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: market stallars like no no tenders East, Like most most
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: most sitcoms you're watching or most soap operas, you're watching
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: our anchor in something, whether it was you know, like
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: uh they did the pub and Mike watching them call
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: it's place in the rovers return or your man is
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: making launder or launder a the anchor of why everybody
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: was living in in an area in watching the caller,
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: who's square whatever square it is in the standards. But
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: they were all marketeers and it seems to me there
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: seemed to be a proud, a proud generational thing that
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: was handed downwards. I saw as a young flower. They
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: didn't give two fucks about you, like you're like, what whatever,
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: you're rooting around their stuff now maybe, But then you
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: go to Dublin. There's a one you're a lovely lady
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: commre to me and my mother's enaver of these people
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: should be like they guess because the beautiful lady, sure
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: you'll have a bunch of flowers, and you well, you're
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: right it look at the head of the broccoli. Picked myself.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: So I did myself in the doodle worlds and it
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: went to the doodle woodles and before you know what,
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: you bought a bag of fucking carrots in Dublin for
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: some carrots at home that I've grown.
- 1:11:05Speaker 4: Like that, that was it. But you're right around town.
- 1:11:08Speaker 4: Whether you bought something or didn't, they didn't care. I
- 1:11:12Speaker 4: want to tell you one other market, Tom. We talk
- 1:11:14Speaker 4: markets off and they probably should have one off special
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: in this which look at here we are. There was
- 1:11:18Speaker 4: one other market that I went to when I was little,
- 1:11:22Speaker 4: and you know, went into my life, but it was
- 1:11:24Speaker 4: once a month it was once a month. It was
- 1:11:25Speaker 4: the first Friday of every month. And I'm forty god
- 1:11:28Speaker 4: damn five years old now these days and still at
- 1:11:31Speaker 4: the first of the first Friday of every month, it
- 1:11:34Speaker 4: rings in my head that the first Friday of every
- 1:11:36Speaker 4: month is the Fair of Cross Midlen. The market and
- 1:11:40Speaker 4: Cross Midlen will be the first Friday of every month.
- 1:11:44Speaker 4: And it was like a huge market, and because it
- 1:11:47Speaker 4: was across the border, there would be things that you
- 1:11:49Speaker 4: couldn't get down. Said, you know, now I was too
- 1:11:52Speaker 4: small to be buying fireworks just yet. But we'll come
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: back round to that. At Halloween time you wanted fireworks,
- 1:11:57Speaker 4: you went to the market and you would leave with firework, right,
- 1:12:01Speaker 4: let me tell you. But going to the Fair of
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: Cross across mclenn County Armagh as a young man was
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: like all the thrills and spills of the market, with
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: the added bonus of British paratroopers on every corner. No really,
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: British paratroopers rifles drawn just on maneuvers while you're pouching
- 1:12:26Speaker 4: through matches.
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm guessing there's no you know, replica SIG's being
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: sold at that.
- 1:12:32Speaker 4: One, like you know, no, there's legit ones budd.
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: Just legit ones. Wow, yeah, that's that's see. There they're in.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Is the difference. We've have a childhood's very very similar,
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: but they're in is the difference. I had no grasp
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: of that kind of stuff.
- 1:12:47Speaker 4: Like obviously I was too small to I was too
- 1:12:49Speaker 4: small to know what was going on either. And as
- 1:12:51Speaker 4: far as I was concerned, Tom this was in every
- 1:12:53Speaker 4: time in Ireland, soldiers about the place. But my folks
- 1:12:57Speaker 4: were generally they wouldn't shy away from the north and
- 1:13:00Speaker 4: cross Midland it is like one hundred yards across the border,
- 1:13:04Speaker 4: so we wouldn't tend to go to never went to Belfast,
- 1:13:08Speaker 4: you know, or anywhere like that. But cross Fair is
- 1:13:11Speaker 4: cross Fair, right, So on Friday we would we would
- 1:13:14Speaker 4: go down to cross Fair. And when I say I
- 1:13:16Speaker 4: would go Friday Fridays, you weren't at school. So the
- 1:13:18Speaker 4: summer should get down, you know. Now I'm doing sums.
- 1:13:20Speaker 4: I might have been add like twelve times in my life,
- 1:13:22Speaker 4: but it seemed like a lot we did.
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: We did go to one in neury when it was
- 1:13:27Speaker 2: very small, and I remember Dad buying fireworks and but
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: one was a couple he bought up a couple of
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: smoke bombs because he thought they'd be funny as well,
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: because you just you couldn't get anything like that down
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: down our way. I don't know what we were doing
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: up that neckati woods anyway, but we're up there. And
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: I remember getting a tick ear for having a big
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: mouth and saying out loudly while walking back to the
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: car on the streets and Newury going which beg, did
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: you put the bombs in dead? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, press
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: preface with the one word that it was really important
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: to have the small on No. No. Seven, six or
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: seven year old. To this day, I can remember getting
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: the puck in the ear goes shut up for you.
- 1:14:10Speaker 4: Yeah, look we are but that's honestly, that's you know.
- 1:14:13Speaker 4: And and I don't have huge memories of the troubles
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: or all that, you know, just a couple of bits
- 1:14:18Speaker 4: and pieces. I was too small, But I remember seeing
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: the soldiers roaming around cross mcland because like they were
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: on maneuvers, like looking around the corner like rambow and
- 1:14:25Speaker 4: shit like this. And I remember thinking, in my innocence
- 1:14:27Speaker 4: at eight or nine, thinking, if they're that scared, why
- 1:14:30Speaker 4: don't they just go back to the barracks.
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: I'll go back to where they come from anyway from also,
- 1:14:36Speaker 2: I mean, you know, first first there was a talk
- 1:14:38Speaker 2: of being cool, nice ermy sur.
- 1:14:41Speaker 4: Sign me up. Yeah, sweet guys, that sounds seems like
- 1:14:43Speaker 4: a cool job. Before I go, Tom, I want to
- 1:14:47Speaker 4: mention one other market, because anybody that knows where I'm
- 1:14:49Speaker 4: from is probably screaming at the earpiece right now, going
- 1:14:53Speaker 4: mention it, mention it, mention it. Yes, indeed, Jonesburg Market,
- 1:14:57Speaker 4: which was between and Dawk and Newry. There's a magical
- 1:15:04Speaker 4: place called jones Borough.
- 1:15:05Speaker 2: It could have been jones Borrough.
- 1:15:07Speaker 4: We got the I dare say if you went to
- 1:15:08Speaker 4: new you know you didn't, buddy, you went to Jonesborough.
- 1:15:11Speaker 4: Jonesborough was We've talked about what if there was a
- 1:15:14Speaker 4: shop outside Jonesborough was? What if the whole town was
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: a shop. The whole village of Jonesboro, I mean fucking lined,
- 1:15:22Speaker 4: body lined everywhere, the car park of the school, the
- 1:15:28Speaker 4: entire mark, the entire cattle mark and surrounding barn area,
- 1:15:34Speaker 4: inside vans, outside vans, the fucking doctor's office. Everywhere was
- 1:15:38Speaker 4: a market. And knows market stalls easily one hundred market.
- 1:15:42Speaker 2: Stalls, and you know it's liberating about that when you
- 1:15:44Speaker 2: do think about it here, because even if you're going
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: we get anything on the internet and you're thinking.
- 1:15:48Speaker 4: Can you can you really because absolutely could.
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: When there's no CCTV we're talking about, there's no camera,
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: camera phones, there's no tracking, nobody like you turn up
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: in you know, your Ford cortinover and you go, I
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: really really want to buy one hundred you know you're
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: you're a bowser on the back.
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: I want to buy one hundred liters of washed diesel.
- 1:16:09Speaker 2: You can get it.
- 1:16:10Speaker 4: They can get one hundred liters of Percel washing up liquid.
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: Yeah, the book they like there was there is that
- 1:16:18Speaker 2: kind of opens and no doubt that was possibly why
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: my parents just went because honestly.
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: It was for it was for the Ring of Gullion.
- 1:16:26Speaker 4: They went up Tom. They wanted to see this, wanted
- 1:16:27Speaker 4: to see the more and so they did.
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: Buddy, if did it, which we we did, stop out
- 1:16:31Speaker 2: of the way. It is fantastic, It's basically it is
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: a beautiful story.
- 1:16:34Speaker 4: But Jones, like a lot of the markets that we
- 1:16:37Speaker 4: have talked about still exists to this day in some capacity,
- 1:16:41Speaker 4: but it is a pale replica of the markets that
- 1:16:44Speaker 4: we grew up with, which is why we like to
- 1:16:46Speaker 4: keep their memory alive here on the Tom and Jerry Show.
- 1:16:49Speaker 4: Have you ever been to a market? We would love
- 1:16:51Speaker 4: to hear from you. We would love to hear from
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- 1:17:00Speaker 4: of Twitter, maybe still for another little while, but you'll
- 1:17:03Speaker 4: get us there and we'll chip in with bits and
- 1:17:06Speaker 4: pieces and cracking jibes and pictures and all that good stuff.
- 1:17:09Speaker 4: But what else can they do?
- 1:17:10Speaker 2: Tom, go ahead and hit subscribe. Whatever platform you're on,
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: hit subscribe. You can comment on most of the platforms nowadays.
- 1:17:16Speaker 2: The one we see the easiest is going to be
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: on Spotify. If you do think about it, you know
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: what I mean? Have you been to a festivity somewhere
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: in the world or this one maybe local to like
- 1:17:25Speaker 2: I like, there's the Billy Boys down in Kerry. I
- 1:17:28Speaker 2: hope they're still on the go. It was like the
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: Mummers of Wexford and kil Kenny where the kind of
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: paganition we're straw gear and stuff like that and they
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: go from house to house singing songs to celebrate say
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: Bridget's Day, you know what I mean? Maybe there's an
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: entering of spring, dawning of spring festival that you know of,
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: or just even a up festival you've been to for.
- 1:17:46Speaker 4: One that's that's the lesser known Warren yvonsng there Tom Woo.
- 1:17:51Speaker 3: Mum ers a.
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: Well, what do you make in the old bastard Wigan?
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: Just going ahead? Do you think like Jerry that he
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: was definitely definitely just a horrible al bastard just praying
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: on people's addictions or maybe you know what he'd had
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: his old mother who needed her, needed her to our meds,
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: but she couldn't get on him.
- 1:18:13Speaker 4: Do you like Jerry? Do you like Jerry and Scotland Yard?
- 1:18:16Speaker 4: I think.
- 1:18:20Speaker 2: Jerry's a brit passing on And do you remember market yards?
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: Maybe you still have a trive on one where you're
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: coming from. Maybe you bought some dodgy ship that never worked,
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: you bought it, you know a pair of fun not wellies,
- 1:18:32Speaker 2: or maybe you got those you know, those prayed at
- 1:18:36Speaker 2: our boots that you were fregging to get your get
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: from your parents, but instead they got you get fifteen
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: pound version at a stall off, some fell out with
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: a fucking dodgy eye.
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: We want to we want to see we want to
- 1:18:46Speaker 4: hear some market purchases here, folks. We want to hear
- 1:18:49Speaker 4: some market purchases in the comments. I'll light it up
- 1:18:51Speaker 4: on the social media's Alsie. I'm up you knocking back?
- 1:18:53Speaker 4: All right? Tom? What do you think about that? Buddy? Perfect?
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: Give us the five stars as well. But while you're
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: at it on whatever platform you're on, we're rocking a
- 1:18:59Speaker 2: solid five stars, thanks very much to everybody. Gold over
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: on just Spotify. Are we on five stars? Yeah, we're
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: on five stars. Still brilliant completely share the family, Jerr.
- 1:19:11Speaker 4: I'm yeah, quite quiet on the comments this week, Tom,
- 1:19:14Speaker 4: So we can wrap it up with that perfect stuff.
- 1:19:16Speaker 2: I've yeah, I gotta go just wash the fury off
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: my face. It's just you know, these these youngsters. I
- 1:19:22Speaker 2: just gotta go wash, wash the fury off my face
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: and maybe just go watch something I steal my goal, magnolias.
- 1:19:27Speaker 4: The public back back in a good place. There you go,
- 1:19:30Speaker 4: all right, come on, take care.
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: He look