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49ers dominate the Rams Down Under in Week 1 · Niner Noise Podcast on the 49ers

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello and welcome to another edition of the 9 or noise podcast part of the fancited podcast network.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Robert Morrison, contributor at 9 or noise.com, and here with me as we celebrate 1 and 0, fellow contributor, Axis, David Duela, Axis, how are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're a good Robert.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we should stop the season right here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Different to the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That seems to be the right choice in my opinion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rams is sitting alone in last place in the NFC West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How would you do that if it was a one game season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the bears would be the number one seed, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Point differential.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I don't know, because do they count like to be?
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[SPEAKER_02]: this way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's true division.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, division wins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the Niners would be in first place in the division right by division win and point differential.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they get to be the the number one seed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, the the bears beat a non division opponent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so maybe there's just a number two seed side for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, um, that this is a complete aside, but wow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, you know what, the game was just so sad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The craziest part about that game, and I think we'll get, I'll probably touch on this when we talk about the nine-earth game is that the bearers put up a ton of points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Their defense looked like fine, but their offense looked both like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they're, like, they're often so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong, I look great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like, it did feel like
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[SPEAKER_02]: this system that you just simply couldn't beat, which is, I think, the fascinating, like, that the bears are going to be good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that will be true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The NFC North is going to be a good division, probably not as like, you know, another really difficult division that's speaking of a team that's in sitting in last place in the, they are in the same, that's the same situation
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it'll be, I mean, the NFC is looking like a gauntlet, really, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're, we're ribbon, ribbon through the last place lambs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, rams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Freudian slip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think, uh, you know, there's still a very talented team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The NFC is going to be a gauntlet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, we couldn't really show that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's lots of, I mean, and obviously it's a week one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could overreact everything that's going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, the fact of the matter is that
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[SPEAKER_01]: all the talk leading up to this was who handled this game correctly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All the talk about like the super team that the Rams were building.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And quite frankly, they came into Melbourne and the Niners kind of just handed it to him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 277 believe it is, I couldn't, I don't remember the number, but I don't know if you saw this somewhere, but it's like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: like a rare feat for a team to come into the season as Super Bowl favorites and get beat by 20 plus points in their their season opener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe it's happened like less than a handful of times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not great from the Rams perspective that that was added to by the fact that Miles Garrett was added to injured reserve not long after the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The knee injury that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: the preseason, they found we decided to go ahead and clean it up for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's out at least a month could be more speculation is that Aaron Donald is maybe not quite ready to come back for week two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, from a ram's perspective, just to be, to be, you know, kind about it as possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not gone off to the start that I think that they thought that they were going to be off to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's definitely true.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think
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[SPEAKER_02]: We at the podcast, I think made a point of saying we don't know exactly how travel is going to impact this game and it's hard to like say for sure that
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[SPEAKER_02]: any certain like outcome is related to travel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like obviously week one is weird in and of itself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like there's a lot of things that you can probably flush down and see as the season progresses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But obviously right like division games matter like this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This account that can twice yes in some cases.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to matter much more than I think
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[SPEAKER_02]: both teams kind of like what like when we talk about the 49ers in the playoff push come end of the end of the year I think this is going to be a huge game that we're sort of like focused on like this is really important that they have this in their back pocket similar to last year where their week one win against Seattle was kind of basically the only reason they had a chance at the at the division right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and probably kept them in the playoff run even past that point too, so yeah, certainly good from a 49er's perspective, I don't know, I mean, we can talk about the travel of it all when we get into the actual game stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, yeah, so a couple of news and notes things that I wanted to point out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These are just like funny things that I saw on the internet after the game was over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was, this really made me laugh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jake Brendel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: on the on the stat sheet in a way that you don't generally see a center on the stat sheet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One catch two yards pretty heads up play actually from from Breddle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a funny here's a funny one for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the two receiving yards by this is from Roger Sherman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The two receiving yards by 49er center break Jake Breddle against the Rams are the first receiving yards by a center in an NFL game since
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[SPEAKER_01]: 49er center Drake Bendell also two yards against the Rams in 2024.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That I didn't, I would not have guessed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost, I almost was like, Oksha's care to venture at guess, but I was like, I would have spent 20 minutes trying to figure out like, I genuinely don't know who I would have said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I, like, I probably would have guessed Jason Kelsey, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what a what a what a pull.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jank Brendell offensive weapon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, who knew um, no, we did not before that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as a point of reference, it was 2022 is Garrett Bradbury for the Minnesota Vikings, uh, Jonas Grasso, uh, in 2012 was the one before that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, or 2017, sorry, 2017.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that he did play for the 49ers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Briefly, he was
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[SPEAKER_01]: receiving arts for centers the last uh... brentle the first one to do it in a winning effort uh... since you gene a mono uh... on november twenty seven to two thousand eleven for the titans against the temp of the book news
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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say there's a real staff for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm real impressed and also surprised by the fact that there's this much data on like this is this is a profile reference he pulled up he linked Roger's urban linked the list of of receptions by by centers all time it's a lot there are 49 names on this list actually
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[SPEAKER_01]: going back to 1921.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Part of me thinks like in the 20s.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just a different gay anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Little oversized the point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This other stat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Fred Warner became the 49ers all-time leading takler on Thursday, surpassing Patrick Lewis for that number, which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you're going to talk about him a little bit later, but I just wanted to mention that very quickly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, for me, as a kind of obsessed with Patrick Willis, I was like, on the one hand, that's amazing to Fred did that on the other, you know,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of goes to show just how great Patrick Willows was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And how good Fred Warner is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So mentioned Miles Garrett went to the IR for the Rams, 49ers have a couple of injuries of notes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, this is our fault.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Okshaas before the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we talked about in the preview how healthy this team was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like hours later,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I think it was hours later, or it was the next day, I think after we finished recording.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because it was in between the time when we recorded and when the episode came, it actually came out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was announced that Alfred Collins, Torn is Petellar, Tenden on one of his knees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's out for the season, this is not good at all because this is the kind of like this, this knee injury like ACL, like people guys come back from those all the time, but Petellar Tenden seems to be one of those that really messes
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the center that they had, the 49er's had.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Western Richford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Western Richford.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he also had a patella tendon injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm not mistaken, I don't recall that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I might be making it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Drake, Drake Jackson, they definitely did a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was what happened with him and he did his patella tendon in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we know what happened there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's some real concern here I think from a long term one, because obviously Alford Collins was really needed to be out there and to play like he had a rough off season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in it, you know, leading into his rookie season as far as healthless concerns didn't have a great rookie year was up and down throughout the preseason, but I think generally people were like, okay, we're excited to see what he can do in year two and then just to have this happen on the eve of the first game, not not ideal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Definitely not ideal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he, um,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a mass of a human for a defensive line that runs a little small at the defensive tackle position.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So really big loss, really tough for his like development as a player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he needs snaps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a physical specimen who needs to like get on the field and get, you know, work on his reps.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So really tough for him, tough for the 49ers, you know, hopefully he's able to rest, recover, and come back better than ever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a real tough one, just because he kind of, he was a unique piece for the defensive line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't, there's not an easy replacement for what Collins like provided.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Based on what the team has right now, so if they need that kind of like knows who can sort of take care of business in the middle of the free of the linebacker so to speak that's that's probably going to have to come externally now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I said, a smaller defensive tackle group between OSA and TTA West and that group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think Kevin Gibbons is still around, but he's not, again, not the biggest guy on the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I was right about Western Richberg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I remember that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He tours Petella on December 19th, to December 9th, 2019.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he retired.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that ended at the season pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that there's they never really recovered from that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so yeah, so hopefully this will not be a career trailer for where for Alfred Collins, still a young guy, but as you say,
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[SPEAKER_01]: bigger like bigger guys like that like the knee it's going to be something you have to watch out for and you've got to worry about whether or not he's going to be able to like the structural integrity of his of his knees when he comes back obviously we were not doctors but it is can it is concerning for sure definitely I mean you know all we can do is really hope that uh you know he'll recover while can continue to have a productive and about career but absolutely it will last for him yeah for the Niners
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in game injuries, you don't like to see those either, but even less when they involve guys who are you're expecting to be a key part of the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: John Stribling, Rookie, Wider Sever, second round pick that people were just rating about and everybody was so excited to see what he was going to look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Early in the first quarter,
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[SPEAKER_01]: came out of the game after not very like maybe on the second series I think that's that sounds right they said it was an ankle injury wind in the medical tent to check it out tape them up and then he came back out and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: just running around basically no, no contact whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The defender was anywhere near him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you could just see his, his, like his ankle kind of gave out on him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a terrifying, I mean, it's terrifying to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you just, you assume the absolute worst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the whole, everybody was like, it's his killies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did it, he did his a killies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done, it does not seem that is the case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is a lot better than that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a deltoid sprain in his ankle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure what that means, but there's one of the ligaments in your ankle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I guess, a little different from your sort of standard ankle sprain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're saying it's a lease a month, obviously, when he goes onage a reserve, it will have to be a lease a month.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think four to six weeks is what they're saying normally, but it's also kind of a weird injury from what I was able to,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to to figure out because it could be one of those things where like the fastest way to make it heal is surgery, but surgery would mean he'd be out for several months.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the generally the way that they that the recommendation is is you try to rehab it and see if it will come if it will respond to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you see where you are and then maybe he.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know and then you hope that it and then it's just like trying to get it's it's I guess it would just be a management of the situation but not good man he didn't even get a chance to catch a ball or anything and it's just like you hate to see that kind of thing happened immediately definitely and I think like real note first of all absolutely brutal for him you know great preseason great training camp was going to be a huge factor for this team and now like
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there were covers, so hopefully she'll bring you, you know, gets better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He has a great future and the NFL and we're all really excited to see him, like, get a chance to really show his stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was out snapping the other wide receivers at the top of the engine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, he was, it was all systems go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This wasn't a, oh, like, bit sort of part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: player.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was, yeah, he started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was on the field for the first, like as a starter, like over Deva Samuel and over to Mark Stravinson, like it was him and Mike Evans to start the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like in that way, it sucks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He adds an element.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This offense didn't have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, the Niners Early Schedule is a little lighter after this game, which this test was stick to care of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, hopefully he gets a chance to recover and you see him back on the field because he's like, he's a stud and I'm super excited to see his career unfold and it's a shame that it kind of got slowed down
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the earliest you'd be able to come back would be against the commanders who are in atleast stadium for Monday night football on the 19th of October.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say it's probably unlikely that we see him immediately.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, best case, like you kind of hope that he is just good for like get yourself right and be ready for late November December and just be ready for the push at the end would be the way I would think that this would be best not only for him and his long term future because this is a guy not just for like for right now, but a guy that you hopeful be leading this wider silver room into the over the next couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: but until you don't want to rush them back and so like even because they have the Dolphins cardinals then there's that Broncos Seahawks stretch that's gonna be difficult.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Commanders, Falcons, Raiders, Cowboys, Vikings is October and early part of November and frankly that feels like a good stretch of time and maybe you kind of see if you can get them in there towards the end of that and see how things are going.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that sounds right, you know, you're right that life, just they got, they should treat this long term, you know, don't do anything now that will like jeopardize next season for him, but um, I think that's right, you know, treat him like a trade, trade deadline addition essentially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then the other injury, uh, Jekton just goes down with a knee injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the MCL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have not said the extent of the injury.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having a little like knee injury PTSD after the Ricky Pierce all stuff last year and part of me just wants to be like just just just fix it and be done with it like it's just going to be to like I don't know like maybe that's just me I could be wrong like they haven't said for sure he's out for the season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also like it's super unfortunate in the way that it happened where he just kind of like stuck his leg out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The announcers were kind of making it a big deal like he was trying to trip chase and carry or miles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gary, Mary what maybe was I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not not the smartest thing he's ever done in his whole life, but it ended up being bad for him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not not good because like obviously he was a really effective player last year and with George Kittle still needing to like get back into into like playing shape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it will be a pretty big loss and I think they're going to have to find somebody to feel it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they I don't think they can count on Luke Feral and Brad Willis to beat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: this the second tight ends I think they're going to have to go find somebody who's available.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a article on nine or no is right now about players they can they can go grab off the street.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's going to like break the thing open but you have to have a little protection for kiddles injury and to let him kind of work his way back into the the
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I think no matter what, if it's two months or if it's the year, like you have to be prepared for that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, really, unfortunately, and again, for Tondos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I agree with you, and so far as there's not really, like, there's a real risk, I would say, of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Letting him continue, like play on it essentially or try to rehab it, which is what they did with Pierce all last year, they're like, oh, it'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was a PCL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if the MCL works the same way, but I do agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's like just, you know, let's just take care of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a brutal loss.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Niners were I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: experimenting with the multiple tight ends, looks, time just would be a big part of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He takes the edge off the passing game, whereas you said with kiddo recovering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like echoing everything you said, it's a big loss, it's an unfortunate play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll have to regroup with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's difficult because the titans they have going to your point about who they have on the roster aren't really equipped for the past game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's I think the real issue, right, is that you have yourself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Farrell and Willis is basically full back now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Luke Feral only blocks kill a little dinking on the practice squad he's like a blocker primarily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they need like a weapon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would I will be checking out that article and then I know it's that comp because I don't know if the top of my head who's a cool it's it's it's two names and they're not going to make you really excited.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying like we.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's not clear to me that like this is a, this is something they can fill.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The weather's super like struggling to injury sucks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really terrible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But they can cover for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the depth, the depth there is really good at the moment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The conscious injury, they can't really cover for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just going to have to change the way they like set up their formations, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You, the two tight ends sets where both tight ends are real like passing threats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they're going to be much of a thing anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, because when they when they when Lou Ferrell gets goes out there, you're going like, oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, the other solution is maybe Kyle you checked becomes a little bit more of a chess piece in this regard, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you think, oh, if you're like, okay, well, Brandon Willis is a full back now.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there's that maybe Braden Willis is the full back and Kyle you check becomes a tight end and not not obviously That's not like a you're not gonna slide Kyle you check over two tight ends I do all the time, but it is a way to like plug that position if they decide We're not gonna sign anybody else off off the street or something like that I mean, I think that's right.
22:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have flexibility for this, but it's it's a difficult loss, and I mean for a
22:59
[SPEAKER_02]: or Tan just who just got like his contract extension.
23:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, two years, right?
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So at least there's that.
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And what have had also a chance to, you know, really sort of showcase himself with Tidil react when meeting, that I think that's also a bit brutal on his part, right?
23:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he had a chance to be more of a focal point than the otherwise won't really be on this team.
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
23:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, Farrell did actually have two catches on Thursday.
23:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's very good.
23:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.
23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, not somebody that he's going to get on the field and people are like, oh, it was Luke Ferro, gonna catch the ball.
23:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, still gonna be a surprise, I think when he does that.
23:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: which I think is the most important part of it anyway.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I think that's everything in the lead up before do you have any other general thoughts about the game or anything before we get into the more specific analysis?
23:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want to just flag for everyone listening.
23:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't think we're going to talk too much about the international game aspect of it all, but there's some great articles on nine or noise written by our very own Jeremy Wolfhardt
24:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just, like, I would encourage you to take a look at that, look at sort of how, like what this meant for the 49ers is a brand, what it was like to be at the game.
24:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, you know, we focus more on the football part of things on the podcast, but this was a big sort of big deal in Australia.
24:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're interested in that, highly recommend looking at this stuff.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, funny.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned that I actually asked him to send me a voice memo.
24:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to attach it to the back end of this of this episode.
24:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a really good.
24:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at you.
24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you knew, but you didn't now you do.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go ahead and get into our.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's favorite segment, which is our one-up, one-down segment.
24:54
[SPEAKER_01]: That is where for those of you who might be new with us, where we talk about one thing that we liked, and one thing that we didn't like as much about the game.
25:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes this is very fun to talk about, other times not so much.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is going to be one of those, one of those times where it's good.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Archangel, as you start with your up, I have a feeling, I know where this is going, but I'll, I'll, I'll, the floor is yours.
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so I'm interested in like what you think I'm going to say because there's so many things I could talk about.
25:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but I know you have one thing in mind specifically is what I think is what I'm thinking about.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, hopefully I don't disappoint you.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Stay on brand, Zaxia, stay on brands.
25:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm going to highlight, of course, the return of the great Fred Warner and Nick
25:47
[SPEAKER_02]: sort of the back, back seven, I guess, the back seven of the 49ers.
25:55
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's the linebackers and it's secondary, because I thought they played a phenomenal game.
26:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's really important.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: The defensive line is really good too.
26:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to give a quick spoiler.
26:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to talk about them and my one down, but I'm going to play it really well.
26:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So hedging already, defense is really good, but I think line backing play is phenomenal.
26:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, Fred Warner, Elite, amazing.
26:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It looked like the defense of player the year on the field between both teams.
26:23
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'll start the, you know, the campaign, I think I've started it every single year, so maybe someone will finally listen to me, but the defense looked right.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and that's, that's because of Werner, that's because of Bosa, that's because of green lots of some extent.
26:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It just, it clicked.
26:44
[SPEAKER_02]: People were in their spots.
26:45
[SPEAKER_02]: They knew what to do.
26:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Pressure was created, but we're focusing on the secondary sticky cupboard and interception from Renardo Green playing the ball well.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: There's really like only one play that comes to mind.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: that are where Jair Brown went for the ball and Pukendakua snatched it away from him.
27:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the big explosive to let to the Rams touchdown.
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually, you know, like part of you, me thinks if you go for the body, maybe, you know, he doesn't even catch it.
27:13
[SPEAKER_02]: But I like that play.
27:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the fact that Jair Brown was in position to make that play.
27:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He broke on it.
27:19
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a chance Pukendakua was a great player.
27:21
[SPEAKER_02]: He made a great play.
27:23
[SPEAKER_02]: But there was an aggression there that I thought was
27:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, you know, the defensive line had its pros, had its cons, but the secondary came to play.
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And to some extent, you know, we can talk about travel, fists, and like, acclimation, that, whatever, whatever.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: On the football field, the 49ers, their linebackers, and their secondary outclass the Rams.
27:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And if that continues, particularly the secondary,
27:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like sealing for this defense goes up and up and up because that like that gives your adressors time to develop that lets you sort of get some reinforcement so to speak.
28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe people who can't win right off the jump like Bosa can and Adikazoo can.
28:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe they have like that extra tick to get to the quarterback because the secondary's type.
28:14
[SPEAKER_02]: It just, it makes it harder for a team to play and I think it gives where he more is way more chess pieces to work with.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: So defense looked really, really good.
28:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was really impressed by the manner of secondary.
28:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they did a great job and really held up to the challenge.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny because we spent so much time thinking about, like, oh, no, the defensive line can't rush the passer.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that going to do to the secondary?
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: But we don't necessarily always think, like, what if the secondary just plays better?
28:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And like how that could impact the defensive line, like if like I mean there's still issues and you like you still want to get to the quarterback and your past rush is still important and you can't expect to your secondary to be sticky, like forever and ever, but like if they're just if the scheme and the quality of the play and the secondary is better, then than than that helps too, I also thought up and style is excellent.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like I'm excited about him and what were he more so he could do with like that that slot blitz was
29:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent.
29:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think he's going to be a fun player for sure.
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I'm right there with you on that.
29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I am quickly flag.
29:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:35
[SPEAKER_02]: To something you said, because I totally agree.
29:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was Oscar up a ratio, who used to host.
29:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Fast back in the day.
29:44
[SPEAKER_02]: He said something that I like I always remember when it comes to defense, which is that you as a defense need to be able to cover the number one read.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you need to be able to get home.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And the 49er secondary is able to do that.
29:57
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's like, that unlocks the defense, so to speak.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Because eventually, like you said, if password doesn't get home, you could have the greatest corners in the world, eventually, someone's going to spring free.
30:09
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you can give your defensive one time, you change the game and the Niners did that in spades.
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So just wanted to throw that out there.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely absolutely my up.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go a slightly different direction all the agree with everything that you said on the defense and and you can make fun of me about this if you would like to because I am going this direction because I said something about this in our final preview episode that I predicted something and it's one week.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But I feel good about my prediction through one week.
30:46
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is, Kayla on Black has got the juice, my friends.
30:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
30:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I did you see the quote, that I think Colton McKibitz had about the bruises.
30:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that it ran.
31:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It kept running.
31:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do it.
31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he has some things to work on.
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a rookie, and it was his first NFL game, and he probably needs to not run into his offensive linemen's backs.
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Boy, boy, 14 carry 65 yards, 4.6 yards per carry, the whole, the rushing offense was just outstanding.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Reportedly, Christian McAfrey was kind of dealing with some cramping and stuff like that during the game.
31:34
[SPEAKER_01]: But frankly, I don't care how we got there.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we got there, and I hope my hope is that Kyle Jainahan went, oh, okay.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, all right, well, if that's, if that's what you got.
31:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, especially against this defense, it's supposed to be the world beaters, and nobody can stop them, and yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy, yaddy.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if that, I mean, I don't expect we're going to see that kind of split.
32:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they split 24 carries and Kale and Blackhead, 14 of those 24.
32:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't anticipate that's going to be normal.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But if he can be in the eight to 10 to 12 range on a regular basis and continue to produce at this clip in that four and a half range, four to four and a half range.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: sign me up, man.
32:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in.
32:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It looked good.
32:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was a real, it was a change of pace.
32:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, McAfrey, a little more methodical, I suppose, and then hitting the whole Kailon Black.
32:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just boom, boom, like shoots out of a cannon.
32:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like there's the hole in there.
32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And there goes.
32:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I just like, I thought he, it was just a
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like McAfrey being there.
32:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think talked about how the possibility of black and McAfrey both in the backfield, what the Niners could do with that.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was really exciting to see.
33:07
[SPEAKER_02]: One because the Niners have spent a lot of third and fourth round picks on running backs, and it's nice to see one of them, like actually seeing like successful.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: But beyond that.
33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: One game in, but yeah, yeah, and the other one was an active for the game, which is funny.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the guy who was the that same draft pick the year before, I don't know what that is about Jordan James, but we'll see.
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I think he just doesn't play special teams.
33:35
[SPEAKER_02]: That's his problem, right?
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's probably it, but.
33:39
[SPEAKER_02]: James looked good too, so, yeah, I think they really have an opportunity to spread the wealth and give in how McAfrey, McAfrey might be like a top whatever, like slot receiver in the NFL, irrespective of position, like if you can utilize that in black, I mean, there's the possibilities endless, and I'm not even like I'm not Kyle Shanahan, right?
34:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've already think of all the amazing things that you could do as a team.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So I totally agree.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: It was super exciting to see.
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, just again, it's not dissimilar to the dribbling thing, where obviously it's not injury-related.
34:17
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, let Christian McAfrey ramp up as the season goes along.
34:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, make him still,
34:26
[SPEAKER_01]: a guy that when it gets to December that he's still got some some meat left on the bone and I think that's going to change this this team in a lot of ways.
34:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Ash, let's talk about the negatives.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know I think I have an inkling what you're going to say here too because I think it's the same thing that I'm going to say.
34:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So this will be maybe together are collective down.
34:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so like I said, you know, when talking about the defense, I was, I thought the defense of line played better than it did last year.
34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: 100% that's true.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it low bar by friends?
35:01
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we're a silver linings podcast right now, right?
35:06
[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to be optimistic.
35:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Those of you who have listened to us over the years knows, very soon, things are going to get negative.
35:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So why, why make a negative right now?
35:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like two things stood out to me from the way the defensive line played.
35:21
[SPEAKER_02]: There were a little frustrating and worth flagging.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: One, I thought while they stiffened up at times against the run, I thought the run defense was a little more porous than I would have wanted.
35:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is also relevant given the fact that Albert Collins is out.
35:40
[SPEAKER_02]: That's maybe the major place where it's going to be important.
35:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought the run, run defense was a little porous, but really the part that I like.
35:51
[SPEAKER_02]: in a little like I think obviously you're gonna flag you can't guarantee a sack at all right that's not just just not the way the NFL hurts but I really think that like they had good pressure which is great but I think there wasn't as much cleanup as I think but I need to see and why am I like why does this matter obviously pressure matters right
36:24
[SPEAKER_02]: At a certain point, the best quarterbacks came like handle pressure.
36:31
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't get them dead, like you need the negative plays, particularly if you're not doing that great against the run.
36:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think I want more cleanup from the defensive line.
36:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they played a pretty good game, all things considered, but, you know, there's not really much else to,
36:47
[SPEAKER_02]: quote unquote complain about or say it's down.
36:50
[SPEAKER_02]: So really I just thought of getting home, cleaning things up, actually like getting staffed on the ground, that's going to be important, especially if we think about next week where the 49ers are going to be playing Moly Willis Dolphins, who's maybe the exact opposite of Matthew Staffer when it comes to ability to move.
37:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And the in and around and outside the pocket.
37:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So
37:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that like finishing is going to be really important.
37:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the defense as a whole was really good at finishing, but the defensive line I thought struggled a bit.
37:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's I think that's right.
37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to highlight the defensive the.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: the running the run defense specifically.
37:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so if you take out stats and Bennett's one brush at the end of the game, um, if you just look at the running backs, the running backs ran the ball 26 times for 114 yards.
37:46
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Blake Corme, Karen Williams and Ronnie Rivers.
37:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that's 4.4 yards per carry, roughly.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
37:53
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not great, like it's not what you want.
37:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously game situation forced the rams out of that.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bit like they didn't run the ball nearly as much in the later stages of the game as they probably would have.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's certainly something to flag.
38:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned Alfred Collins being missing and that was like his big thing that he was supposed to provide to this team and his not, he's not gonna be back this year.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're gonna have to figure out a way to just scheme that up a little bit better.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously having guys like Fred Warner and Drake Greenland on the back end of the right behind and there's the linebackers could be really helpful, but I think ultimately you gotta find a way to
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: to figure out how to stuff up the middle there because I didn't it was mostly that like as like in my mind as I'm starting to play through it it was like they handled the edges pretty well.
38:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think like when Michael Williams comes back, that will even improve even more, because that was one of his great strengths as well.
38:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But like that middle of the defense, I think people are gonna find they're gonna be able to cut their teeth on things a little bit more effectively there.
39:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll probably avoid the edges if they can, if they find they can clip off four or five six yards of carry, just running up the gut, that will be certainly more efficient for sure.
39:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I like, in so far as the defense being complimentary to the offense, it worked out, right?
39:27
[SPEAKER_02]: As you said, game flow meant the Rams didn't put it run, which is they wanted.
39:32
[SPEAKER_02]: But it was a, it's a problem.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the Rams are going to be one of the best rushing attacks the 49er space, but
39:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, speaking of as we started the episode with talking about Chicago, they rushed for like what 300 yards or something, some monster amount of yards, there's great rushing attacks in the NFL right Seattle won the Super Bowl off the ground game, JSN and a defense.
40:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Even like the quote unquote worst team in the NFC West has like a freak super like freak young running back in Jeremiah and that's the Arizona Cardinals like running matters a lot and that's going to that's something the team needs to work on and I think like that's really that's like an Achilles heel right yep and I have been for years now.
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And we all know right that like that is sort of the problem not like that is a problem That this defense has had they continue to have it like you said This team is not built to stop the run.
40:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They invested last year And then everyone got hurt and now the people who they invested in are not on the field because they're hurt so This is not a run stopping defense
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But they have to become one, and I totally agree, right?
41:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's a take, that's one of the things to take away from this game that gives like pause for concern at the forward.
41:08
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, the, you know, the Niners are gonna be tested immediately coming home facing Miami when it comes to the running game.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it'll be a good chance to let them to cut their teeth and sort of see how do they, how do they like hold up?
41:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Can they improve from last week?
41:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So weird sentence, they're gonna be tested immediately in the Miami Dolphins in the same sentence.
41:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very odd thing to say.
41:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what you mean though, but it's like, it's it.
41:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, they don't have to be over those teams like in the R barriers where they didn't give up a rushing touchdown for like some absurd amount of games in a row, or they didn't have a hundred-yard rusher for some...
41:48
[SPEAKER_01]: like 20 so it was it was stupid um that what that defense was insane like I'm both in both stopping the run and stopping the pass um and we're not asking best defense is to never win a super bowl yeah I'm gonna be into that um but we're not asking for that like you just have to well okay you have I mean it would be nice if we got that's all right that's
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: That is unattainable at this particular moment, but they need to improve enough to wear like the Rams, where what did I say, 4.8, something like that, that's too many.
42:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they can't, you can't be in a position where they can basically get a first down every two runs essentially.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to knock that number down.
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: If you can get that below four,
42:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're all like, okay, that's good enough.
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That'll probably be good enough to force teams to into your strength as a defense.
42:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I would think.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's right.
42:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's absolutely right, right?
42:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're not expecting this team to be world-old beaters against the run, but we would like them to be capable, sufficient, maybe.
43:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
43:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, what I have to see is just going to be a work in progress that I think the defense of line is going to be something that like is continually tinkered with as the season progresses, it's just a matter of seeing how they sort of figure things out from there, but uh, you know, it was a great game otherwise, but it really like it might not matter if the team works in sync as we saw them do, but
43:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's not going to be all the time that your offense is basically flawless minus, like, one of those, yeah, for sure.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with that.
43:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, also, side down.
43:44
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not a, a, um, this is not really anything the 49ers did, but I like, just a big old, just just Sean McFey just thrown in the towel at the ends.
43:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like, dude, there's like four and a half minutes left to go in this game.
44:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was super funny how, like, Luke Keakley was like, they had a chance and I was like, he didn't have a chance.
44:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't have a chance.
44:11
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have a chance.
44:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're like, oh, that's admit it to the game.
44:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, that was, that was the funniest thing.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the worst part was, is that if you, like, if you knew you were going to do that,
44:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, the 49ers, you could have just avoided the whole bringing your backup quarterback into the game by just feeling like, all right, guys, we're going to let him have this first down.
44:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
44:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And the 49ers are going to run the, I don't think they would have kicked the kicked like a field goal.
44:39
[SPEAKER_01]: If they get it down to the two minute warning, and they still have the ball, I think they just sit on the sit on it and the games over and
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: you've void all that nonsense.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was weird.
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause I, like, he clearly was like, oh, yeah, they do this, that and the other thing.
44:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he in real time, which was kind of hilarious, like in real time where he goes, oh wait, like, you could, you could just like hear him, like recognize that the Rams had in fact decided that the game was over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the travel matter, all that much, but I do think it's true that the Rams don't say cared less, but I think the Rams did sort of.
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[SPEAKER_02]: it felt as though they weren't ready to meet the moment or say right like I think if felt watching the game that they kind of thought they would just win that experience right there they like you know they uh drink the cool aid so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: got high off their own supply.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what they meant for us here.
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one of these things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stay like, I think they really felt like they were the better team.
45:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They might in fact be the more talented team.
45:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think what did we want out of this game?
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: We wanted the Niners to show that the margins in this division are super tight and that they need to be a team to be content with.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They showed that and I think they did in a convincing fashion.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't looked at any power rankings.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure the Niners have jumped.
46:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They're a legitimate contender, you know, injuries have to go right.
46:21
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some of the things we talked about, but they did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did what they needed to do to show that they belong.
46:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the sand Arnold injury in Seattle helps that a little bit.
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there seems to be a lot of uncertainty about what's going on there.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's all earlier today that the injury is very unusual.
46:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And so no one really knows what to do with it and they're not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they don't seem to be saying anything about it.
46:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would not surprise me if it's one of those things where he's just like every week.
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, okay, well, where is he now?
47:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is he now, okay?
47:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like if Seattle has to now, are they in a position where their defense is probably good enough to keep them in this thing, even if Drew Locke who's
47:15
[SPEAKER_01]: not particularly good.
47:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the quarterback for six weeks?
47:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
47:21
[SPEAKER_01]: But it does sort of make you feel a little bit more comfortable, I think.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
47:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I will see.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I think.
47:32
[SPEAKER_02]: anything everything's on the table right this is what we said when you preview the season this team could win the Super Bowl they could also like tear everything down it looks like they're tracking towards the former over the ladder but yeah we don't I don't know right the NFL season is long lots of different things happen I think the nine years did a good job
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[SPEAKER_02]: in controlling what they can control and they are on top of the division.
47:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we talked about this briefly at the start, but this wind really does matter, definitely.
48:04
[SPEAKER_02]: it helps for whatever tie breakers it'll help it even if they lose against the Rams whenever week like I don't know eight or what there's like 14 or something like that whenever late in the season they play like you get like banking wins matters Tom Brady said this on the broadcast he was on
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[SPEAKER_02]: on Sunday.
48:23
[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, you know, the losses here count the same as the losses in December.
48:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter like when you lose the games.
48:30
[SPEAKER_02]: If you lose them, you lose them.
48:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you win them, you win them.
48:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
48:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't win a Super Bowl.
48:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to just throw every football like that.
48:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Keep going.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.
48:39
[SPEAKER_02]: If you can't win a Super Bowl in September, but you can lose a Super Bowl in September.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So the manners did what they needed to do.
48:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was fun.
48:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I had fun watching the 49ers play.
48:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It was exciting to see them back.
48:54
[SPEAKER_02]: They were good.
48:55
[SPEAKER_02]: They were explosive.
48:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They were great on defense.
48:58
[SPEAKER_02]: They had a great stop.
48:59
[SPEAKER_02]: They played with the energy.
49:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They like, I don't know what more you want if you're a football fan.
49:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and aside from the fact that they just seemed to endure themselves to the to the populist out there in Australia, which I think,
49:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's been the other talking point about this and we didn't really we didn't talk about the travel thing because I mean, I think it certainly looked like the Rams had just gotten off a plane, especially as the game wore down, but ultimately I think the Rams missed an opportunity because it's there they were there because that's their international right space right that was the reason the Rams were there and they just sort of seemed to punt on that and.
49:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just very interesting that they didn't see that as an opportunity and you were talking when you're talking about the Bill Plashky thing before we started recording and he was really like oh, you know, they're going to go 22 and oh, no, no, no, no.
49:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously they didn't, they can't now, um, but it is, it is interesting, the way they handle it, just from like a, you know, like a building their brand perspective, it seems like an odd choice regardless of how you think it backed their ability to play the game effectively, you know,
50:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree, I mean, I'm not, I'm no marketing expert, maybe like, it just so, like, they've done so much work that they have their core base, but yeah, I mean, like, it doesn't make sense that.
50:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just like, you know, they're travel plan, whatever, right?
50:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we said, smart, like reasonably smart people would have decided both ways how to approach it.
50:45
[SPEAKER_02]: No one likes it.
50:46
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously did exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No one like didn't reach it.
50:50
[SPEAKER_02]: No one reached out to like, like Dr. Nick on the Simpsons as opposed to an actual doctor decide what to do, right?
50:56
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
50:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But in terms of building the brain, obviously, right, FaceTime is good.
51:01
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't get that much FaceTime.
51:03
[SPEAKER_02]: The nine are only helped themselves.
51:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that's great for the team.
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, rightfully, not rightfully.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think we focused less on it because like, just literally the way the stadium was set up, I don't think home-fueled managed matter much of it all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But,
51:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I want the entire world to be 49ers fans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm happy that the the Niners did what they did in Australia.
51:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
51:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there you go.
51:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Ox was any final words before we kick it over to Jeremy with his final thoughts.
51:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll we'll use him to wrap up the episode and then I'll hook up back and do the the final Speela at the back end of that.
51:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Just that a great week one, everyone make sure you stick around and listen to what Jeremy has to say.
51:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I remember when I went to like my first nine or scale while I go and it was like, it's so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that experience.
52:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just life changing and I can only imagine what it's like when you're not when you're in a country where these opportunities are really few and far between Because no one's traveling on to Australia to play NFL football.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm excited to hear what he has to say.
52:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I think for those of you listening who are indeed fans of the 49ers like this is it's really I think it's really going to hit close to home here and what he has to say.
52:35
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really exciting to see the 49nd's play in Melbourne.
52:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I've definitely a real bucket list item to tick off and I think the whole country really came through and showed what a real love letter, the whole game was both for Australia as well as for the people coming through here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: big festivities throughout the entire week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really good to see the 49ers players coming in, really interacting with the locals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They really captured the hearts and minds of really the entire country, which really showed up in the game, all the supporters, all the neutrals we're going for the 49ers as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's certainly going to be really exciting to see what the NFL does in the long run here in Australia when it isn't the 49ers and
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[SPEAKER_00]: certainly I know I'll be back for any future games that they do have.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully they'll learn from what work and what didn't work here in the first game down under and make the next few games even better for the people that do come through here, whether they're Australian or come from overseas, but definitely there was a really exciting way to open this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, thanks, Jeremy, for those words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, well, we're going to go and wrap it up here.
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