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Sharri | 4 November · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show tonight to
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Speaker 2: Anthony Alberizie's embarrassing remarks about Donald trump come back to
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Speaker 2: haunt him. How will the Prime Minister handle this? If
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Speaker 2: Trump wins in just two days, I'll bring you.
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Speaker 3: His comments in a moment.
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Speaker 2: I've got full coverage on the election tonight with our
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Speaker 2: former ambassador to Washington, Joe Hockey, plus Ross Greenwood in
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Speaker 2: New York will bring you the latest intel on the
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Speaker 2: battleground states. Plus I'll bring you exclusive polling on who
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Speaker 2: Labor voters have picked to lead the party if they
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Speaker 2: could choose a different leader, and the answer will make
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Speaker 2: alban Easy very nervous. That exclusive polling coming up. Also tonight,
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Speaker 2: the Home Affairs Department plays counsel culture with the Australian flag. Well,
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Speaker 2: shouldn't they be focused on national security?
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Speaker 3: I'll show you the moment James.
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Speaker 2: Patterson calls out their wopped priorities. But first tonight, the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister embarrassed over remarks where he strongly criticized Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: The comments now coming back to haunt him.
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Speaker 2: On the eve of the US election, alberize he was
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Speaker 2: a senior labor figure. When he said that he had
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Speaker 2: concerns about Trump, who was already president at the time,
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Speaker 2: he also said that he scares the s out of him.
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Speaker 4: Have a look, we have an alliance with the US.
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Speaker 4: We're going to deal with him, but that doesn't mean
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Speaker 4: that you're uncritical about it. He scares out of me,
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Speaker 4: and I think it's of some concern that the leader
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Speaker 4: of the free world thinks that you can conduct politics
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Speaker 4: through one hundred and forty characters on Twitter.
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Speaker 2: So Alberizi complaining there as he said that we've got
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Speaker 2: to deal with him.
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Speaker 3: This is embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: And Alberizi was Shadow Transport and infrastruct Minister at the time.
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Speaker 2: He was a senior figure in the shortened team. He
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Speaker 2: should have known better than to speak in such a
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Speaker 2: juvenile fashion about the then president of the nation that
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Speaker 2: Australia relies.
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Speaker 3: On for our national security.
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Speaker 2: And for this to emerge at a time when his
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Speaker 2: own government is scrambling to get in to make ties
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Speaker 2: with teen Trump. Well, when you think about it, there
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Speaker 2: are actually a lot of similarities between Alberizi and Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 2: Alber Ezi spent his career as a left faction warrior,
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Speaker 2: only to suddenly try and reposition himself in the political
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Speaker 2: center when he became Labor leader, he claimed that he'd
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Speaker 2: abandoned his far left instincts. It led to front pages
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Speaker 2: like this one where Albernezi declared I am not woke.
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Speaker 3: Many of us found that claim hard to believe.
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Speaker 5: Albert declared himself a centrist who would govern four mainstream
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Speaker 5: Australia and to prove he was safe for readers, reporter
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Speaker 5: Joe Hildebrand put the opposition leader to the woke test
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Speaker 5: and got all the right answers.
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Speaker 1: Can men have babies?
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Speaker 5: No Captain Cook, Giro or zero world changer?
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Speaker 3: Does Australia need to spend more or less on defence?
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Speaker 1: More negative gearing?
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Speaker 3: Keep or ditch keep?
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Speaker 2: In my view, there wasn't nearly enough scrutiny on Albanesi
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Speaker 2: before the last election, and when I reported on his
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Speaker 2: radical left positions over the years, he was pretty angry
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Speaker 2: about it. Albanzey didn't want anyone to know about his past,
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Speaker 2: like that it actually supported death taxes. He'd also previously
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Speaker 2: criticized capitalism and family wealth as causes of social injustice.
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Speaker 2: Albanzey pretended to voters that he'd been an economics advisor
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Speaker 2: in the legendary Haut government, but in fact, as I reported,
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Speaker 2: he was only a research officer for a hard left
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Speaker 2: minister who.
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Speaker 3: Wasn't in cabinet.
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Speaker 2: And on Israel would don't get me started, but there
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Speaker 2: were plenty of warning signs.
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Speaker 3: Albanize had lashed out.
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Speaker 2: At Israel, claiming it had acted disproportionately when defending its
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Speaker 2: citizens from.
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Speaker 3: Terror attacks, and he also demanded.
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Speaker 2: The Coalition explain why it voted against a United Nations
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Speaker 2: move to launch an investigation into Israel's so called indiscriminate
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Speaker 2: use of force against Palestinians.
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Speaker 3: These should have been red flags.
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Speaker 2: The whole attempt to reposition Albanzi was a farce. He
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Speaker 2: never abandoned his lifelong principles. He just pretended that he changed.
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Speaker 2: And now Albinze's Prime ministership is failing, mostly because of
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Speaker 2: his inability to govern for mainstream Australians.
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Speaker 3: I challenge you.
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Speaker 2: To think of anything he has actually personally achieved. You
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Speaker 2: only have to look at Peter malanowskis in Adelaide or
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Speaker 2: Chrismin's in New South Wales to see the model of
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Speaker 2: a modern successful centrist labor leader now over in America.
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Speaker 2: Like alban Easy, Kamala Harris has spent her career as
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Speaker 2: a Californian Liberal. She's the very definition of woke. The
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Speaker 2: Republicans only have to look at comments she's made in
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Speaker 2: the past for their adverts.
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Speaker 6: Kamala supports taxpayer funded sex changes for prisoners.
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Speaker 7: Surgery for prisoners, for prisoners. Every transgender in me in
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Speaker 7: the prison system would have access. This administration has decided
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Speaker 7: to vilify them and to trade on them for the
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Speaker 7: sake of this president's medieval vanity project called iWar. There's
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Speaker 7: no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal editorial board says that her candidacy
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Speaker 2: is best understood as an attempt by the Democrats to
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Speaker 2: continue the progressive political wave, and that editorial describes the
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Speaker 2: modern left's bloody mindedness, with its regulatory coercion, its cultural imperialism,
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Speaker 2: its economic statism, and its desire to strip judicial independence.
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Speaker 2: They say that Harris's progressive politics might be tolerable if
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Speaker 2: Miss Harris showed evidence on foreign affairs that she understands
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Speaker 2: the world's current dangerous moment. Yet she defends the last
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Speaker 2: four years as a security success despite two Wars adversaries
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Speaker 2: on the March and the US Navy playing Waka missile
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Speaker 2: in the Red Sea. And they also conclude that Kamala
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Speaker 2: Harris is unprepared to deal with She or Vladimir Putin.
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Speaker 2: And now even CNN has called Kamala Harris out for
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Speaker 2: running different messages on Gaza and Israel in different states.
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Speaker 2: In Michigan, which reportedly has the largest Arab population in America,
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Speaker 2: here are Kamala Harris's adverts.
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Speaker 9: What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months
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Speaker 9: is devastating. We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to
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Speaker 9: the suffering, and I will not be silent.
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Speaker 3: I won't be silent on the suffering.
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Speaker 2: But then over in Pennsylvania, where Kamala is trying to
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Speaker 2: win over Jewish voters, will here's her message.
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Speaker 9: I will always stand up for Israel's right to defend itself, and.
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Speaker 10: I will always ensure Israel has the ability to defend
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Speaker 10: itself because the people of Israel must never again face
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Speaker 10: the horror that a terrorist or organization called hermas calls.
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Speaker 9: On October seventh, This.
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Speaker 2: Is so appalling, These mixed messages that even CNN criticized.
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Speaker 3: Her over it.
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Speaker 11: You have two entirely different constituencies and they are getting
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Speaker 11: two entirely different messages. If you are a Jewish person
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Speaker 11: in Pennsylvania, you saw that ad that you're getting, You
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Speaker 11: are getting that athe Muslim voter in Michigan, you are
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Speaker 11: getting that ad on Facebook that's talking about talking about
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Speaker 11: how she won't be silent on the issue of Gaza.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris wants to be the president of the US,
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Speaker 2: but her message is change depending on which battleground state
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Speaker 2: you're in, depending on what you want to hear. She
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Speaker 2: seems to be the American replica of alban Easy, and
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Speaker 2: we've seen that his left wing instincts couldn't be suppressed forever.
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Speaker 3: Now this is arguably the.
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Speaker 2: Most critical election in our recent history. Our enemies are
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Speaker 2: emboldened and they're collaborating to weaken us in the West.
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Speaker 2: Only a strong leader of the free world can stop
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Speaker 2: their assault on democracy and on Western civilization, and this
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Speaker 2: can only be achieved through the Reagan model of peace
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Speaker 2: through strength.
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Speaker 3: This is the leadership that's needed.
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Speaker 2: Right now, not constant calls for a ceasefire, not half
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Speaker 2: hearted support for Ukraine, and not turning a blind eye
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Speaker 2: to China's wargames. Okay, we've got a lot coming up
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Speaker 2: for more. Now let's cross live to the US to
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Speaker 2: New York where I've got Ross Greenwood and it's just
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Speaker 2: gone four am local time. Ross, thank you for getting
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Speaker 2: up so early for us.
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Speaker 3: Look in New.
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Speaker 2: York, Wall Street has mostly swung behind Donald Trump. What's
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Speaker 2: your opinion on the view that the economy and the
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Speaker 2: stock market will be stronger under a Trump presidency.
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Speaker 12: Well, there's no doubt that Wall Street has swung behind him,
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Speaker 12: although it has waived in the past day or so.
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Speaker 12: That surprise Iowa Hoole, which suggested that Kamala Harris could
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Speaker 12: be in front there probably has just led to a
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Speaker 12: few wobbles in terms of currency markets, bond markets, and
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Speaker 12: share markets as well. But in the main you're right,
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Speaker 12: they have swung behind Donald Trump, and the reason for
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Speaker 12: that is because they believe that he will bring down taxes,
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Speaker 12: not just.
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Speaker 1: For companies but for individuals.
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Speaker 12: Now, there is some concern about the implication of what
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Speaker 12: he means when he says that he wants to exchange
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Speaker 12: taxes in the United States for tariffs, taking the United
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Speaker 12: States back to a system that was around in the
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Speaker 12: early nineteen hundreds until income tax was created. Now the
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Speaker 12: reality is that big tariffs on Chinaese imported goods, some say,
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Speaker 12: would add to inflation. He says, it's the way to
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Speaker 12: actually get America going to bring manufacturing on shore, to
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Speaker 12: bring jobs on shore, to bring technology on shore, and
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Speaker 12: to ensure or the Chinese goods in many cases where
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Speaker 12: the intellectual property has been stolen or basically copied effectively
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Speaker 12: does not come back into America as chief goods.
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Speaker 1: So this is the sort.
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Speaker 12: Of rhetoric that goes around not just the Trump campaign,
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Speaker 12: but also around the financial markets. Which is the reason
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Speaker 12: why though you're right to say that New York is
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Speaker 12: very much a Democrat stronghold, it also resonates in other
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Speaker 12: parts of it, like say, for example, the race for
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Speaker 12: the Congress. A lot of people right now even today
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Speaker 12: the New York Times talking about the importance of New
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Speaker 12: York in the Congress because the Republicans helped to grab
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Speaker 12: control of the Congress because of key votes that they.
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Speaker 1: Picked up here in New York.
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Speaker 12: And that's the reason why there so many different votes
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Speaker 12: that are coming out in two days time on Tuesday,
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Speaker 12: are really going to be very important for this nation.
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Speaker 2: Ross this is I was actually, I've got to say it,
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Speaker 2: quite shocked when I saw that this story had taken
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Speaker 2: off in such a strong way on the weekend. And
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Speaker 2: I don't know if all of our viewers have heard
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Speaker 2: about it tonight. Peanut the squirrel, this has been massive,
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Speaker 2: especially in.
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Speaker 3: New York on the weekend before the election.
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Speaker 2: So basically, the police have come in and killed a
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Speaker 2: man's two pets, a squirrel and a raccoon. It just
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Speaker 2: so happened that I understand the squirrel was a you know,
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Speaker 2: a social media star. I mean, this sounds weird, but
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Speaker 2: it's been such a big story, and Russell's resonated across
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Speaker 2: America because it's an example of government overreach of government
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Speaker 2: control while there's a sense that actual criminals are getting
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Speaker 2: off scott free.
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Speaker 3: Are a protected species.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, so it actually gets mixed up with the migration message.
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Speaker 12: That's the funny thing about dear old Peanut the squirrel
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Speaker 12: and Fred the raccoon is the.
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Speaker 1: Other one as well.
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Speaker 12: And so the New York Post sort of highlighted this
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Speaker 12: and basically made the observation that really, people have rated
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Speaker 12: this person's house, you know, You're right about peanut being
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Speaker 12: a bit of an internet sensation. So either somebody's got
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Speaker 12: jealous or somebody says that the squirrel hasn't been kept
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Speaker 12: in the rights of environment or whatever it might be.
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Speaker 1: So they've actually.
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Speaker 12: Taken these pets away, euthanize the pets. But then now
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Speaker 12: even jd Vance has called this out, said that Trump's
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Speaker 12: not happy about this. But it really is sort of
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Speaker 12: almost resonates about the fact that, you know, under the Democrats,
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Speaker 12: many Americans believe that the country is over governed.
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned earlier on in.
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Speaker 12: Your editorial about you know, Australians feeling that same way
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Speaker 12: they are over governed, and so this really has almost
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Speaker 12: become a bit a little emblematic in the way in
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Speaker 12: which Americans do feel in this election.
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Speaker 1: And also say, for example, we're.
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Speaker 12: Going there later on today to go and see the
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Speaker 12: famous Roosevelt Hotel, one of the most famous hotels in America,
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Speaker 12: which has now become a migration center, so people remember
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Speaker 12: that many Americans coming, so many people coming to America
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Speaker 12: for the first time.
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Speaker 1: We've gone through Ellis Island. Well, this is the new
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Speaker 1: l As Island, one of.
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Speaker 12: The traditionally flashiest hotels in New York City is now
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Speaker 12: basically a migrant center for people who have come illegally
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Speaker 12: into this country and gravitated towards New York City. So
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Speaker 12: that again is become a bit of a flashpoint in
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Speaker 12: this election.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's fascinating.
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Speaker 2: And just to add to that, Elon Musks speaking about this,
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Speaker 2: and it's such a big issue, this pin up the
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Speaker 2: squirrel that the Wall Street Journal even did an editorial
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Speaker 2: on it. Ross just quickly before you go, you went
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Speaker 2: to Trump Tower today, You've been to pre polling booths today,
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Speaker 2: I should say, yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Your time.
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Speaker 2: Tell us how you're finding voter sentiment on the ground,
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Speaker 2: keeping in mind, of course, as you say that New
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Speaker 2: York is a Democrat state.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we're at the marathon.
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Speaker 12: We met at Trump Towers, and of course there you'll
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Speaker 12: see a lot of visitors, so you do get sort
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Speaker 12: of a glimpse of what's happening around the country. The
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Speaker 12: one interesting thing about this election is the pre polling. Now,
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Speaker 12: at the previous election, twenty twenty election, sixty four percent
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Speaker 12: of people in America pre polled. So in other words,
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Speaker 12: I'm almost one hundred million votes out of one hundred
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Speaker 12: and fifty eight million votes that were cast were prepolled.
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Speaker 12: And the interesting part about it is in the previous
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Speaker 12: they broadly one to the Democrats, but this time around,
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Speaker 12: in surveys that have been done, it suggests that in
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Speaker 12: twenty six of the states where there has been pre
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Speaker 12: polling monitored, that twelve have gone towards the Republicans, fourteen
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Speaker 12: have gone towards the Democrats. And so it really again
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Speaker 12: shows the call from both Kamala Harris and Donald.
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Speaker 1: Trump for people to get out and prepole.
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Speaker 12: Has resonated there and certainly on the streets the people
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Speaker 12: that we've spoken to have done so in their drives.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and we've seen the Democrats clearly very worried
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Speaker 2: about this early pre polling vote. All Right, Ross Greenwood
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Speaker 2: Live in New York, thank you so much for your time,
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Speaker 2: and we'll tune into the rest of your analysis this week.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring it now Sky News host Steve
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Speaker 2: Price and Joe Hildebrand, and let's start with Albanezi's US
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Speaker 2: style political rally in Adelaide on the weekend in a
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Speaker 2: school hall, where he emphatically declared that the worst was
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Speaker 2: behind us when it comes to the inflation crisis, pretty disingenuous,
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Speaker 2: spare and seeing is so many families are struggling with
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Speaker 2: this cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look.
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Speaker 13: While there are still challenges to meet, still problems to solve,
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Speaker 13: still people under pressure who need our help. When we
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Speaker 13: look at the economy today, we can see new reasons
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Speaker 13: for optimism, a new proof that the worst is behind us.
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Speaker 3: The worst is behind us.
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Speaker 2: Well, is this his new narrative that the cost of
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Speaker 2: living crisis is over? When he flies business class he
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Speaker 2: buys a clifftop mansion. I mean, I think if that's
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Speaker 2: his message, voter, is it going to punish him for
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Speaker 2: not understanding Steve Price?
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Speaker 3: What do you think?
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Speaker 14: Well, I think what we saw there and what we
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Speaker 14: can smell is an election. I mean, what the hell
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Speaker 14: is he doing? I mean that presentation yesterday was just
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Speaker 14: so bizarre, But I think it gives us a bit
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Speaker 14: of an indication of what's going to happen whenever that
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Speaker 14: election is called. And it's now more likely than not,
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Speaker 14: looking like maybe March. But he's going to lean heavy
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Speaker 14: on the two labor premiers that you mentioned at the
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Speaker 14: beginning of the program, Shari, and that is Peter malanowskis
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Speaker 14: in South Australia and Christopher Min's in New South Wales.
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Speaker 14: He knows they're popular. He knows that the middle voters
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Speaker 14: think that those two guys, a bit like Steve Brax
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Speaker 14: in Victoria a few years ago, are the type of
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Speaker 14: labor premier or the labor politician that you can trust
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Speaker 14: to look after you.
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Speaker 1: So I think we.
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Speaker 14: Really saw yesterday of the start of the election campaign
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Speaker 14: for twenty twenty five. I just think Joe's mate was
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Speaker 14: over there pretending to be you know, I saw a
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Speaker 14: cross between Kamala Harrison and Donald Trump and getting everyone
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Speaker 14: to clap and cheer for him on a Sunday. How
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Speaker 14: much would they have had to pay those people to
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Speaker 14: go there on a Sunday for God's sake?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Joe Albanezy does no media interviews at
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Speaker 2: all for five days and then he turns up with
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Speaker 2: this US style appearance where he takes no questions.
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Speaker 3: That's great, he's our Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: You can trust him.
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Speaker 15: Look, I think obviously has been a pretty brick is
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Speaker 15: in week in the media for the PM, and that's clear.
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Speaker 15: Some of it is self inflicted, some of it is
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Speaker 15: just you know, the big storm that all politicians have
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Speaker 15: to go through all the time. And as Winston Churchill said,
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Speaker 15: a politician complaining about the press, it's like a sailor complaining.
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Speaker 1: About the sea.
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Speaker 15: But he's obviously decided to keep his head down. I
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Speaker 15: don't really have a problem with anything he said. To
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Speaker 15: be honest, I think clearly the worst is behind us.
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Speaker 15: The numbers speak for themselves that that is an undeniable.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to
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Speaker 2: interrupt you. I should say, I will disagree, because actually
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Speaker 2: the effect can be cumulative on people. So initially people
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Speaker 2: had savings still from the COVID pandemic period. Now they
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Speaker 2: don't have those savings anymore. A lot of people's mortgages
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Speaker 2: are also coming off the fixed rate, so it's actually
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Speaker 2: not true one. It can be cumulative and other people
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Speaker 2: are freshly exposed to the pain.
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Speaker 1: That is absolutely fair enough.
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Speaker 15: But he's talking about how the economy is sitting, and
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Speaker 15: he did say, I know that people are doing it tough,
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Speaker 15: and I, you know, and again I'm in a very
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Speaker 15: fortunate position. But we've gone backwards as well in this thing,
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Speaker 15: and it scares of for Jesus out of me, and
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Speaker 15: it stresses me out, makes me terrible to live with
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Speaker 15: sometimes and gone.
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Speaker 2: Backwards except for album Clifftop Magical.
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Speaker 15: Well, you know, he's obviously in his personal states, he's
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Speaker 15: going just fine. But he did say that he knew
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Speaker 15: that people were still really struggling, but he was giving
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Speaker 15: them some hope and some reassurance. I don't think saying
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Speaker 15: we're all ruined.
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Speaker 1: We're all ruined.
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Speaker 15: You know, it's the end of the world as we
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Speaker 15: know it. That doesn't help the economy and it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: Help that, but it's just a bit of understanding about
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Speaker 2: what voters are going through. Well, he did make that
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Speaker 2: pledge to wipe twenty percent off the hex debt of
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Speaker 2: three million ausies.
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Speaker 3: Now this is a.
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Speaker 2: Sixteen billion dollar promise for just three million students, and
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Speaker 2: the PM was spooking that again today. Now, firstly, the
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Speaker 2: Coalition argues that tax payers are ready pay for sixty
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Speaker 2: percent of the cost of students' education. But Steve, this
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Speaker 2: is a classic case of wealth redistribution. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: why should all all Australians have to pay for the
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Speaker 2: debt of some students? Find some students are hard working,
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Speaker 2: but others are just lazy protesters.
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Speaker 14: Well, I've got to make an admission here. I have
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Speaker 14: a daughter who has a sixty five thousand dollars hex stet.
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Speaker 14: After five years studying to become a lawyer, she's now
20:19
Speaker 14: got a really good job. She never complains about it.
20:22
Speaker 14: She's not asked me for one cent. So let me
20:24
Speaker 14: just put that out there. But I did think it
20:26
Speaker 14: find it very intriguing that suddenly we're going to all
20:30
Speaker 14: us other taxpayers and imagine all the taxpayers out there
20:33
Speaker 14: that are not doing it such a good doing it
20:36
Speaker 14: so well now who are really struggling. I don't think
20:39
Speaker 14: they want to put their hand up and pay off
20:41
Speaker 14: people's hex debt. That's a huge promise. It's going to
20:45
Speaker 14: be very interesting now to see how Peter Dutton handles
20:47
Speaker 14: this because obviously that is a promise. It's going to
20:51
Speaker 14: sit well with younger voters, but I don't think it's
20:53
Speaker 14: going to sit very well with middle Australia and older voters.
20:56
Speaker 2: There's also the debt issue to the budget bottom line.
20:59
Speaker 2: But Joe is about labor trying to win votes back
21:02
Speaker 2: from the Green.
21:02
Speaker 15: Absolutely correct, it is, and that's right. It's usually if
21:06
Speaker 15: measures are off budget it's because there are things like
21:08
Speaker 15: government owned corporations that are meant to turn a profit,
21:10
Speaker 15: so it's not actually a cost to the war chest
21:14
Speaker 15: the treasury chess because that entity is meant to be
21:17
Speaker 15: operating as a private entity or operating in the private sphere.
21:19
Speaker 15: I don't see, and I agree with sauls Like and
21:21
Speaker 15: Chris Richardson. I don't see how on earth you can
21:24
Speaker 15: make that argument here. It's clearly a reguard action to
21:27
Speaker 15: try to throw a bone to young voters who are
21:29
Speaker 15: eyeing off the Greens. I think they might be able
21:31
Speaker 15: to pick up a couple of seats maybe if they're
21:33
Speaker 15: lucky in Brisbane. Joe Biden did this in twenty twenty.
21:38
Speaker 3: Billion, and Joe Biden a couple of seats.
21:41
Speaker 15: A lot of people and a lot of Joe Biden
21:43
Speaker 15: did well, not just that, but more to make labor
21:46
Speaker 15: more attractive to young people in the long term because
21:49
Speaker 15: the Greens are eating that way and anything labor can
21:51
Speaker 15: do to beat the Greens is good for Australia.
21:54
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if at the cost of sixteen billion,
21:56
Speaker 2: I would pay.
21:57
Speaker 15: Ten billion dollars. They see Max Chandler bar kicked out
22:00
Speaker 15: of his seat.
22:01
Speaker 2: All right, Steve, we learned tonight in that we learned
22:04
Speaker 2: tonight and the Herald's son that five Jewish schoolgirls leaving.
22:09
Speaker 3: An exam for their VCE were abused with schoolboys shouting
22:14
Speaker 3: hitler slurs.
22:16
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many cases like this, so many
22:19
Speaker 2: businesses targeted.
22:20
Speaker 3: Basically nothing ever happens.
22:23
Speaker 14: When is this going to stop? Those girls had been
22:26
Speaker 14: at a psychology exam and as the head of the
22:29
Speaker 14: school they attend said, you know, maybe these young men
22:32
Speaker 14: should have been at the psychology exam. I mean, what
22:35
Speaker 14: sort of country are we now living in when five
22:38
Speaker 14: girls who have been studying hard on the VCE on
22:42
Speaker 14: their way home on a tram and these these absolute
22:45
Speaker 14: morons start shouting stuff like that at them. I mean,
22:49
Speaker 14: you've done such a fantastic job prosecuting the case to
22:53
Speaker 14: try and put a lid on Adi Semitism in this country, Shari,
22:57
Speaker 14: You've personally invested in it, and yet you've got these
23:01
Speaker 14: You've got what's going on in those boys' homes when
23:05
Speaker 14: they get home tonight? I mean, I hope someone can
23:08
Speaker 14: work out who they are. They weren't wearing uniforms, but
23:11
Speaker 14: somebody in those streets will know exactly who they are.
23:14
Speaker 14: Their parents sort of grabbed them by the year, drag
23:17
Speaker 14: them down to their school tomorrow and tell the teachers
23:20
Speaker 14: at that school what those boys did. They ought to
23:22
Speaker 14: be expelled from the school for the rest of the year,
23:24
Speaker 14: and someone's got to get hold of them and put
23:26
Speaker 14: them into some sort of re education. It's not on
23:29
Speaker 14: it's pathetic and it's dangerous.
23:31
Speaker 2: Very well said Steve, really well said, I mean joj's
23:34
Speaker 2: very quickly this social cohesion breakdown.
23:37
Speaker 3: We're seeing it across the country.
23:38
Speaker 15: Yeah, we are, and it's something extremely ugly. It's something
23:42
Speaker 15: that started sadly the day after October seventh last year.
23:45
Speaker 15: And again talked about Chris Mins before about how he
23:48
Speaker 15: just instinctively knows how to nip these issues as much
23:53
Speaker 15: as you possibly can in the bard and to have
23:56
Speaker 15: completely de escalating and welcome and but also strong language,
24:02
Speaker 15: a very clear message that there is absolutely no tolerance
24:05
Speaker 15: for this kind of behavior in Australia. Whatever your pet peeve,
24:09
Speaker 15: whatever your pet issue, whatever's happening in the Old Country
24:11
Speaker 15: or overseas or whatever.
24:13
Speaker 1: We are a.
24:14
Speaker 15: Strong multicultural nation.
24:16
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of that.
24:17
Speaker 15: There are a lot of people who say that it
24:19
Speaker 15: doesn't work and it's never going to work. We've proven
24:21
Speaker 15: them wrong until now. And if people are going to
24:24
Speaker 15: carry on like this, they are just proving the people
24:27
Speaker 15: who say that Australia can't actually that Australia is a
24:30
Speaker 15: racist country, or that Australia can't function as a multicultural society.
24:33
Speaker 15: They are proving those people right and they should be
24:35
Speaker 15: absolutely ashamed of themselves.
24:37
Speaker 2: Steve Price, Johulda Brown, thank you both very much. Now
24:41
Speaker 2: returning to the US election, now, Kamala Harris may have
24:45
Speaker 2: reached a new level of cringe over the weekend with
24:48
Speaker 2: this surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live, where she urged
24:52
Speaker 2: the US to keep Karmela ahead of voting day.
24:58
Speaker 16: Like legally Blondela and start decorating for Christmas. Follow Lala La,
25:06
Speaker 16: because what don't we always say, keep Kamala and carry on?
25:10
Speaker 3: Alah oh God.
25:15
Speaker 2: Skynies contributor Kosha Gada joins me, now, does this cheese
25:20
Speaker 2: work with Americans? And what about also the claims that
25:24
Speaker 2: this might have breached the FCC that's the Federal Communications Commission,
25:29
Speaker 2: Equal time rule.
25:32
Speaker 17: Yes, it's kind of for Team Trump. I think the
25:34
Speaker 17: gift that keeps giving because there's all those angles to it.
25:38
Speaker 17: I don't think the cheese works. You know, if it's
25:40
Speaker 17: done in good dosages, where the person is a serious
25:43
Speaker 17: candidate and is taken very seriously and then kind of
25:46
Speaker 17: lets loose in these formats and does a little bit
25:49
Speaker 17: of comedy on SML, it could work, and it has
25:51
Speaker 17: worked in the past. But in her case, her biggest
25:54
Speaker 17: problem that she's been struggling with, or one of them,
25:56
Speaker 17: is she's not taken seriously as somebody who really has
25:59
Speaker 17: a hand on issues or has strong positions substantively anyway.
26:03
Speaker 17: And then when you keep leaning into sort of the
26:05
Speaker 17: comedy and the style piece of it, when there isn't
26:07
Speaker 17: a substance backing it up, I don't think it actually
26:09
Speaker 17: works as a campaign matter for her.
26:11
Speaker 3: And then the second point is.
26:12
Speaker 17: It did land NBC in hot water, as you mentioned,
26:15
Speaker 17: because they're one of the four free to air broadcast
26:17
Speaker 17: networks in the US, and there are FCC rules that
26:19
Speaker 17: say if you give time to one candidate so closely election,
26:22
Speaker 17: you have to give it to the other. And I
26:24
Speaker 17: think there was some breaking news that they are going
26:26
Speaker 17: to be forced to give ninety seconds to team Trump
26:29
Speaker 17: to run an ad in the middle of Sunday night football,
26:32
Speaker 17: which may have just happened, or maybe it's Monday night football.
26:35
Speaker 1: He's going to be doing.
26:36
Speaker 17: That to equate that so that they get out of
26:38
Speaker 17: the hot, wet water that they put themselves in.
26:41
Speaker 2: Now, Joe Biden is continuing his kind of weird moments.
26:44
Speaker 2: I mean, first he called half of Americans garbage. He
26:48
Speaker 2: then was biting babies, and now this.
26:52
Speaker 18: Now, I know some of you guys are at tempted
26:54
Speaker 18: to think as much. You guys, I'll tell you what, man,
26:57
Speaker 18: and I'm serious, these are the kind of guys like
27:00
Speaker 18: a smacking ass, I.
27:05
Speaker 3: Mean, Karsher.
27:06
Speaker 2: At this point, you could be forgiven for thinking he
27:09
Speaker 2: was trying deliberately to damage Karmala's campaign.
27:15
Speaker 17: That is a theory that seems to keep getting some traction,
27:20
Speaker 17: certainly on social media. People think that who knows if
27:23
Speaker 17: that's true. Possibly, I think also show it's really quite
27:26
Speaker 17: stunning if you think about it, that the sitting president
27:29
Speaker 17: has not been on the campaign trail more. And there's
27:32
Speaker 17: a reason why. This is the reason we can see it,
27:34
Speaker 17: but that if you just step back and think about that,
27:36
Speaker 17: you know he could have been the biggest voice or
27:39
Speaker 17: advocate for his for her his vice president, and he
27:43
Speaker 17: hasn't been, and I think that's the reason why. But
27:45
Speaker 17: the garbage comment, I think specifically this one is fine,
27:48
Speaker 17: but that one, I think is going to go back
27:50
Speaker 17: and history books are going to look at it as
27:51
Speaker 17: something that was probably quite material in terms of the
27:54
Speaker 17: damage that it did and the unforced era that it
27:57
Speaker 17: delivered to the Karma campaign.
27:58
Speaker 2: I suppose it depends on the election results ultimately whether
28:02
Speaker 2: it does go down in history.
28:04
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, let's have a quick look at London.
28:06
Speaker 2: The Tories have installed their first black later of the Conservatives.
28:10
Speaker 2: Kosha disappointment has been well received widely.
28:17
Speaker 17: Yes, it has been.
28:18
Speaker 1: I think you know.
28:19
Speaker 17: The big picture for the Tories though, is they still
28:21
Speaker 17: are navigating a pretty fundamental identity crisis and brand crisis
28:26
Speaker 17: if you just look at the gains that they had
28:28
Speaker 17: in twenty nineteen and then the shillaking that they took
28:30
Speaker 17: in the last election so here and what that's going
28:33
Speaker 17: to take is some real change, I think, and courage
28:36
Speaker 17: to take on the issues that a large portion of
28:39
Speaker 17: their constituency feels disenfranchised from around immigration and trade and
28:43
Speaker 17: culture wars. And all of that, and so she has
28:45
Speaker 17: a real opportunity, I think, to seize that. It's a
28:49
Speaker 17: wide opening in terms of taking on those policy positions.
28:51
Speaker 17: And if she does that, I think she has been
28:54
Speaker 17: received well and she will have an opportunity to do that.
28:56
Speaker 17: If she doesn't, then I think you're just going to
28:58
Speaker 17: continue to see that fracturing and that sort of coternal
29:00
Speaker 17: civil war in the Torries Party that we're seeing parallels
29:03
Speaker 17: of that in the US and even here to some extent.
29:06
Speaker 2: All Right, Kosha Data, thank you so much, really appreciate
29:08
Speaker 2: your time.
29:10
Speaker 3: Now still to come on.
29:10
Speaker 2: The show, I've got exclusive polling on who labor voters
29:14
Speaker 2: think would be best to replace Alban Easy and these
29:17
Speaker 2: results are going to make him very nervous. Also, former
29:21
Speaker 2: Ambassador to Washington Joe Hockey would join me just two
29:25
Speaker 2: days out from the election. He gives his view on
29:27
Speaker 2: how Trump and Harris are doing in the critical states.
29:31
Speaker 2: That interview after this quick break, welcome back. Well, there
29:39
Speaker 2: aren't many Australians who've spent as much time with Donald
29:43
Speaker 2: Trump as my next guest, Joe Hockey. When he was
29:46
Speaker 2: our ambassador in Washington, he dealt with the US President
29:49
Speaker 2: often even playing golf together.
29:52
Speaker 3: He has very unique insights on how this election is
29:55
Speaker 3: playing out. I spoke with him a little earlier.
29:58
Speaker 2: I started by asking him he agreed with the polls
30:01
Speaker 2: that the two candidates are now deadlocked.
30:05
Speaker 19: Well, it appears to be deadlock, Sharry. It's the polls
30:08
Speaker 19: haven't moved much at all since Kamala Harris took over
30:13
Speaker 19: as the Democratic nominee. But I still feel that there
30:18
Speaker 19: is what they're calling the shy Trump voter yet to appear,
30:23
Speaker 19: and they'll only appear after the ballots counted on Tuesday.
30:28
Speaker 19: And at the moment, I think the polls are underestimating
30:31
Speaker 19: Donald Trump's vote.
30:33
Speaker 3: As they have done in the past two elections.
30:35
Speaker 2: But there's also talk that Harris may be successful in Iowa.
30:39
Speaker 2: If that's the case, what does that mean for Trump
30:42
Speaker 2: and whether he would need to pick up more of
30:45
Speaker 2: the other bluewell states.
30:47
Speaker 19: Look, I don't give much credence at all to that
30:49
Speaker 19: one off poll. It's the trend that matters, and the
30:53
Speaker 19: constant trend is that the numbers are deadlocked in the
30:57
Speaker 19: key states on Tuesday night. On election Night, I'll be
31:01
Speaker 19: watching North Carolina very closely. That is a state that
31:06
Speaker 19: will come in pretty early with its results. But I
31:10
Speaker 19: just want to warn all of your viewers. So I'm
31:12
Speaker 19: sure are going to be glued to the TV as
31:15
Speaker 19: you will be, and everyone will be on Wednesday your time.
31:20
Speaker 19: It could take weeks for these results to come in.
31:24
Speaker 19: I just caution everyone that it's going to Unless there
31:27
Speaker 19: is a sweeping victory on Tuesday night, then it's going
31:31
Speaker 19: to take days, if not weeks, to get a result.
31:35
Speaker 2: You've been speaking about the critical seats of Michigan and Pennsylvania.
31:39
Speaker 2: There was a really fascinating report on CNN I just mentioned,
31:43
Speaker 2: and it's interesting in itself that CNN is even running this,
31:46
Speaker 2: but Harri speaking out of both sides of her mouth
31:49
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Middle East. She's running adverts
31:51
Speaker 2: in Michigan saying she's not going to be silent about
31:54
Speaker 2: the Palestinian suffering, and then running adverts in Pennsylvania that
31:58
Speaker 2: she's always supported Israel right to defend itself. Does this
32:02
Speaker 2: show that this particular issue could shift votes.
32:06
Speaker 3: In these critical seats?
32:07
Speaker 2: But also, what do you think it says about Harris
32:10
Speaker 2: that she can run campaigns like this? How can either
32:13
Speaker 2: side actually trust her?
32:16
Speaker 19: Well, I mean that's part of the issue. As people
32:18
Speaker 19: form a judgment about Harris, they're going to look at
32:23
Speaker 19: not only what she's promising, which I must say is
32:28
Speaker 19: very light on, but it's what she's done that is
32:32
Speaker 19: the issue. And she has been a part of the
32:35
Speaker 19: Biden administration. Currently, seventy three percent of Americans feel that
32:40
Speaker 19: the country is heading in the wrong direction. Now, if
32:43
Speaker 19: you're an incumber government anywhere with those sorts of numbers,
32:46
Speaker 19: you are finished. And the challenge that Kamala Harris has
32:52
Speaker 19: faced is she's trying to run as a new fresh
32:55
Speaker 19: face and yet she is part of the incumbency. Something
33:00
Speaker 19: illustrates it better than the fact that she is trying
33:04
Speaker 19: to walk both sides of the fence in relation to
33:08
Speaker 19: Israel and the war in Gaza and the war against Hezbollah.
33:13
Speaker 19: The fact is there are four hundred thousand crucial Islamic
33:17
Speaker 19: votes in Michigan, and if they choose not to vote,
33:21
Speaker 19: it's highly unlikely they will vote for Donald Trump. But
33:23
Speaker 19: he did reach out to them the other day. But
33:26
Speaker 19: if they choose not to vote, then that is going
33:30
Speaker 19: to cost Harris probably Michigan overall, and it may even
33:36
Speaker 19: lead to her losing the overall election.
33:40
Speaker 2: Joe, do you think Kamala Harris has properly addressed concerns
33:44
Speaker 2: about how her administration would be different from the Biden
33:47
Speaker 2: administration and also her flip flopping positions over the years,
33:51
Speaker 2: whether it's on fracking, on prisoners transitioning, on taxpayer funds,
33:55
Speaker 2: on the Middle East, And in a sense, perhaps is
33:58
Speaker 2: she lucky that she's had such a shot campaign window
34:01
Speaker 2: because the longer we go on, it seems like the
34:04
Speaker 2: honeymoon is fading.
34:06
Speaker 1: Well, that's right.
34:07
Speaker 19: It actually has helped her to have a short campaign
34:12
Speaker 19: because she hasn't come under the sort of policy scrutiny
34:16
Speaker 19: that Donald Trump or Joe Biden or most other candidates
34:20
Speaker 19: would have faced at the moment. If you were to
34:25
Speaker 19: ask the average voter, what is Kamala Harris's tax policy,
34:30
Speaker 19: what is her border policy? Even what is her policy
34:33
Speaker 19: on the Middle East, you wouldn't be able to get answers.
34:38
Speaker 19: The main focus of Harris' voters is that Kamala Harris
34:44
Speaker 19: is not Donald Trump, and she has built a coalition
34:47
Speaker 19: of Andy Trumper's that stretch from Liz Cheney on the right,
34:52
Speaker 19: and Liz Cheney is right wing, a Republican right through
34:59
Speaker 19: to Bernie sand As an AOC on the left. Now,
35:02
Speaker 19: that is a very broad coalition. The only thing that
35:06
Speaker 19: unites all of those people is that they despise Donald Trump.
35:10
Speaker 19: Whereas Donald Trump has focused on policies lower taxes, less regulation.
35:16
Speaker 19: I don't agree with him, but he wants to introduce
35:19
Speaker 19: an increased tariffs, he wants to rebuild the border wall,
35:23
Speaker 19: and he wants to move illegals out of the United States.
35:28
Speaker 19: He wants to open up the energy opportunities of the
35:32
Speaker 19: United States. He actually has quite a wide policy platform.
35:36
Speaker 19: And so in response to that, you've got Elon Musk
35:40
Speaker 19: on one side of his support base, and you've got
35:43
Speaker 19: the Teamster's Truck Driving Union, which has always supported the
35:48
Speaker 19: Democratic Party, on the other side. Seventy percent of the
35:51
Speaker 19: members truck drivers of America, most of them, if not
35:55
Speaker 19: almost all of them, have never gone to university. They're
35:58
Speaker 19: hard working, blue collar workers. Seventy percent of the union
36:03
Speaker 19: members voted to support Donald Trump ahead of Harris. And
36:08
Speaker 19: so Trump's coalition is built on policy. Harris's coalition is
36:14
Speaker 19: built on not being Donald Trump.
36:17
Speaker 2: Just finally, Joe Trump is said to have targeted the
36:20
Speaker 2: young male voter through podcasts like Joe Rogan, but our
36:25
Speaker 2: female voters coming out to support Harris like the Democrats
36:29
Speaker 2: were relying on, well.
36:31
Speaker 1: You know, Sharri.
36:33
Speaker 19: The thing is this, Donald Trump won more white women
36:37
Speaker 19: in twenty sixteen than Hillary Clinton. He won the votes
36:43
Speaker 19: of more white women than Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
36:47
Speaker 19: In both elections, they knew that was abortion, that abortion
36:52
Speaker 19: under Donald Trump, with the Supreme Court appointed by the Republicans,
36:56
Speaker 19: would refer power back to the States. So the abortion
36:59
Speaker 19: policy was pretty settle. The question is are those people
37:02
Speaker 19: now really changing on the issue of abortion. And what
37:06
Speaker 19: Harris is doing is she is targeting. She was targeting
37:10
Speaker 19: at first young people on campuses to get them to vote,
37:14
Speaker 19: but she has now changed tack and focused on young women.
37:18
Speaker 19: And what they've found is that all the Democratic efforts
37:21
Speaker 19: to win over young men were failing and they were
37:24
Speaker 19: turning to Donald Trump. So there is a battle of
37:27
Speaker 19: the sexes in this election, more pronounced than almost any
37:31
Speaker 19: other election in American history. But I am still a
37:35
Speaker 19: little skeptical as to whether those issues that influence the
37:40
Speaker 19: sexual divide are going to be the issues that are
37:43
Speaker 19: actually going to materially change the level of support for Trump.
37:48
Speaker 18: And Harris Lor.
37:50
Speaker 2: Joe, I hope it's not a week long wait for
37:52
Speaker 2: the results or more as you've suggested, it'll drive us
37:55
Speaker 2: all crazy. Joe Hockey, thank you very much for your time.
37:59
Speaker 19: Thanks very much.
38:00
Speaker 1: Hey you.
38:02
Speaker 2: And right after the break, brand new polling on who
38:05
Speaker 2: Labor voters want to replace alban Easy that exclusive polling
38:10
Speaker 2: right after this break. Plus why are bureaucrats playing council
38:14
Speaker 2: culture with the Australian flag.
38:16
Speaker 3: That's after this break. Welcome back.
38:21
Speaker 2: Well we've got exclusive polling now and it shows that
38:24
Speaker 2: when Labor voters were asked who they could choose if
38:28
Speaker 2: they if the party could choose a different leader from
38:30
Speaker 2: Anthony Albanisi.
38:32
Speaker 3: Who would they like to pick?
38:34
Speaker 2: And the Labor figure who came out on top was
38:36
Speaker 2: Treasurer Jim Chalmers with twenty one percent of voters choosing him.
38:41
Speaker 2: He was followed by Danya Plibasek with seventeen percent of
38:46
Speaker 2: Labor voters choosing her. Tony Burke, who fancies himself a
38:50
Speaker 2: future leader don't know why, had only five percent of
38:54
Speaker 2: support from Labor voters surveyed. About half of the voters
38:58
Speaker 2: actually didn't know who to pick. Let's bring it now,
39:02
Speaker 2: Labor figure and GXO Strategies director Cameron Milner who's in London,
39:06
Speaker 2: and Farmer Howard advisor David Gazard. Cameron, your firm commissioned
39:11
Speaker 2: this polling. What does it tell us about how voters
39:15
Speaker 2: view the Prime Minister.
39:17
Speaker 20: Well, the results aren't good for Albow because cost of
39:20
Speaker 20: living is the number one issue for Australians and then
39:23
Speaker 20: there's daylight. But two thirds of those people hold don't
39:26
Speaker 20: think Labor's doing a good job on cost of living.
39:28
Speaker 20: They think they're doing a terrible or poor job. So
39:30
Speaker 20: every time Lany tries to get the messge out in
39:32
Speaker 20: cost of living, there's another Albo fiasco, another buying a
39:36
Speaker 20: million dollar house or a Cornus upgrade. It's crowding up
39:39
Speaker 20: the message. And so what we pold was whether Labor
39:41
Speaker 20: voters wanted to see someone else than Elbow. And as
39:44
Speaker 20: we saw clearly head and shoulders Jim Chalmers and Tanny
39:48
Speaker 20: plebersek streets in front of the other leadership contenders if
39:51
Speaker 20: Albo was not to be the leader.
39:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yet you have leadership rumblings. I mean people
39:57
Speaker 2: talk about Jason Clair, they talk about Tony Burke. We
40:00
Speaker 2: going to this pole no one, not even labor voters
40:03
Speaker 2: five percent want those two figures David desired. There was
40:07
Speaker 2: a three point left in the coalition's primary voter clotting
40:10
Speaker 2: to this pole, taking it to thirty nine percent. So
40:13
Speaker 2: it still needs to get a bit higher for Dutton
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Speaker 2: to be in a governing position. But in terms of voters, well,
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Speaker 2: they didn't give Dutton a glowing endorsement either, so do
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Speaker 2: you think he needs to improve his image as well?
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Speaker 6: The coalition's figures are inching higher with each polling cycle,
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Speaker 6: so I don't think anyone will be particularly alarmed with that.
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Speaker 6: And bear in mind that there has only been one
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Speaker 6: one term government in Australia's history, that was the nineteen
40:43
Speaker 6: thirty one scull And government, so it would buck historical
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Speaker 6: odds for Dutton to get over the line this time.
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Speaker 6: That said, he inches closer and closer and closer, and
40:54
Speaker 6: the voters have yet to really switch on in this campaign,
40:58
Speaker 6: so it will be down to him to our line
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Speaker 6: a series of policies that will go to cost a
41:03
Speaker 6: living to get in touch with people when they switch
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Speaker 6: on into this campaign. So I think everything is going
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Speaker 6: in Peter Dutton and the Coalition's favor in this selection,
41:13
Speaker 6: although it is very very tight, but tighter than you
41:16
Speaker 6: would expect in a first term Albanesi government.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing that, as you say, it's been nearly
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Speaker 2: one hundred years since there was a one term labor
41:26
Speaker 2: government and yet Albin Easy will be fighting to hold
41:29
Speaker 2: onto power now. James Patterson has grilled the Home's Home
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Speaker 2: Affair Secretary in the Senate today, criticizing her priorities after
41:37
Speaker 2: the Australian flag was dumped from photographs on their website. Cameron,
41:43
Speaker 2: We've got national security, border protection issues, community safety, yet
41:48
Speaker 2: this is their priority, dumping the Australian flag.
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Speaker 20: Well it's a victory for the wife, isn't it. And
41:55
Speaker 20: no doubt they had focus groups and they took off site,
41:59
Speaker 20: off site dat studies to see whether the austrain flag
42:01
Speaker 20: should be removed. Look, the public service should be doing
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Speaker 20: one job and one job only. It should be tacking
42:05
Speaker 20: cost of living, not doing things like taking the Australian
42:08
Speaker 20: flag away, especially as you say, at a time of
42:11
Speaker 20: heightened national security, national unity, and the Australian flag represents
42:15
Speaker 20: all that. So the public service are off on their
42:17
Speaker 20: own work agenda here and it's not good.
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Speaker 2: Well, here was the official responding to James Patterson's questioning,
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Speaker 2: have a look. Okay, we'll play you that grab when
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Speaker 2: we've got it.
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Speaker 21: Now, have a look, the secretary, I couldn't help but
42:36
Speaker 21: notice that there was a change recently in the photographs
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Speaker 21: of senior departmental officials on the Home Affairs website. Are
42:45
Speaker 21: you familiar with that change?
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Speaker 8: There's some time ago I asked my staff to redo
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Speaker 8: the photographs of the senior executive without flags in the background.
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Speaker 8: Is that the change you're referring to?
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Speaker 21: Yes, yes, So sometime between July and August, we noticed
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Speaker 21: that the headshots of yourself another senior officials in the
43:08
Speaker 21: department previously had the Australian national flag as well as
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Speaker 21: the Aboriginal Torrestate Island of flags in the headshot, and
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Speaker 21: then after that period they're no longer in the headshot.
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Speaker 21: What was the reason for removing the flags from the headshots?
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Speaker 8: I wanted to have photos that were less formal.
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Speaker 2: It does such a sensational job, James Patterson, but you'd
43:32
Speaker 2: have to think this is just counsel culture gone mad.
43:36
Speaker 2: When the Home Affairs Department removes Australian flags, it's absolutely.
43:41
Speaker 3: Ridiculous, David Gazard.
43:43
Speaker 2: As we speak, Israel is on standby for Iran threatening
43:49
Speaker 2: to another retaliation strike. There are concerns that this is
43:53
Speaker 2: going to happen in the next forty eight hours. I mean,
43:56
Speaker 2: Iran has said in media reports that they plant it
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Speaker 2: hit Israel again.
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Speaker 3: Before the US election.
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Speaker 2: The US has implored them not to take that action.
44:07
Speaker 2: David Gazard, this is really worrying. You know, it's hard
44:10
Speaker 2: to know what exactly to believe, but we are seeing
44:14
Speaker 2: reports that Iran is preparing its ballistic missiles once again.
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Speaker 1: It looks.
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Speaker 6: It's consistent with the timing of the US election. That
44:26
Speaker 6: would be point number one that I'd make if they
44:29
Speaker 6: do anything they want to get in before the election
44:32
Speaker 6: lest they face the wrath of a possible Trump election.
44:37
Speaker 6: The other thing I would, though, say, is that Iran
44:40
Speaker 6: has talked a big game throughout the last year, and
44:44
Speaker 6: it's been happy to let its proxies in Hamas and
44:48
Speaker 6: Hezbala do all the wet work, which makes you wonder
44:51
Speaker 6: what's in it for Hamas and hez Balat they have
44:55
Speaker 6: They've endured all the carbage doing all the work for Iram.
44:59
Speaker 6: The other point I'd make is this. Iran would have
45:02
Speaker 6: to be very mindful of what Israel has done through
45:06
Speaker 6: superb work, through its intelligence agencies and its operatives, and
45:11
Speaker 6: they would be thinking at the moment, well, if we
45:13
Speaker 6: strike Israel, what may happen to us? So I've watched
45:17
Speaker 6: Iran for months now. They talk a big game and
45:21
Speaker 6: it's never followed up. Instead, they leave all the work
45:24
Speaker 6: to its proxies who endure all the damage, which makes
45:28
Speaker 6: you wonder why people in Lebanon and in Gaza continue
45:32
Speaker 6: to do it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very concerned about this because you know, you're right,
45:39
Speaker 2: they do have left a lot to the proxies.
45:41
Speaker 3: But we have seen two direct attacks from.
45:44
Speaker 2: Iran to Israel, which is unprecedented, and you know, I
45:49
Speaker 2: think we do.
45:49
Speaker 3: Need strong US leadership.
45:51
Speaker 2: It's why this election is so critical for all of
45:54
Speaker 2: us in the West, because you've got these Ayatolas who
45:57
Speaker 2: are in boldened. They really shook Israel with US last attack,
46:00
Speaker 2: and then all you see from Joe Biden and Kamala
46:04
Speaker 2: Harris's oh ceasefire. Let Iran continue to amass its nuclear capabilities,
46:09
Speaker 2: continue to develop its nuclear capabilities. You know, eventually the
46:13
Speaker 2: US and Israel will have to deal with that, will
46:16
Speaker 2: have to target the nuclear sites, because what are we
46:18
Speaker 2: going to do sit back here and let them develop
46:21
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon that would affect all of us in
46:23
Speaker 2: the West. It's insanity, Cameron, Just quickly before we go,
46:28
Speaker 2: I want to get your opinion on this. Albanesi's election
46:33
Speaker 2: style performance yesterday in Adelaide.
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Speaker 3: He didn't give an interview for five.
46:38
Speaker 2: Days, he was hiding from the media because of the
46:40
Speaker 2: upgrade scandal, and then we see him come out and
46:43
Speaker 2: basically declare that the cost of living crisis is all
46:46
Speaker 2: but over.
46:46
Speaker 3: What did you think of that?
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Speaker 20: Well, it was Albers's mission accomplished moment, wasn't it. Whether
46:53
Speaker 20: it's a crowd of faithful ALP members rather than the
46:56
Speaker 20: scrutiny of the media pack. This is how he wants
46:59
Speaker 20: to communicate, but it's not cutting through.
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Speaker 3: Voters are speaking.
47:02
Speaker 20: As we saw in our whole sharing up. Albanie has
47:04
Speaker 20: a huge problem with credibility with voters on the issue
47:07
Speaker 20: of cotts. A living and a set speech in Adelaide
47:10
Speaker 20: is not going to fix that for him. Nor's cunning
47:12
Speaker 20: heckstep for university elites.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Cameron Milner in London, David Gazzard. Thank
47:19
Speaker 2: you both so much. Now still to come, Daniel Andrews
47:22
Speaker 2: says Jewish donors should stop funding creative endeavors that have
47:25
Speaker 2: refused to denounce anti Semitism.
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Speaker 3: Talk about that in a moment.
47:33
Speaker 2: Well, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews has urged Jewish philanthropists to
47:38
Speaker 2: stop funding groups that have refused to condemn both anti
47:42
Speaker 2: Semitism and the October seven attacks. This comes after Jewish
47:46
Speaker 2: artists and causes have been frozen out by so called progressives.
47:52
Speaker 3: Well, we talk about this, but I think.
47:53
Speaker 2: We do need to support businesses and productions that do
47:57
Speaker 2: give a voice to those that the left currently freezing out.
48:01
Speaker 2: And one production that hasn't got the attention it would
48:05
Speaker 2: normally receive from the left, and it deals with issues
48:08
Speaker 2: of gender identity, is called Yental. It's on at the
48:12
Speaker 2: Opera House and it's in direct response to the doxing
48:15
Speaker 2: of six hundred creatives and the Prohamas rally of course
48:18
Speaker 2: that took place on the Opera House.
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Speaker 3: On October nine.
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Speaker 2: And I'm joined now by director and co writer of Yental,
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Speaker 2: Gary Abrahams.
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Speaker 3: Gary, good to see you now.
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Speaker 2: You've specifically held this at the Opera House as a
48:30
Speaker 2: means to symbolically take it back.
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Speaker 3: Why do you think.
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Speaker 2: You're not getting the support that you should be for
48:38
Speaker 2: this production given it does deal with a lot of
48:41
Speaker 2: causes that are central to the left.
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Speaker 22: Well, I think there's just an enormous discomfort and sort
48:49
Speaker 22: of uncomfortability that people have with Jewish content and Jewish
48:53
Speaker 22: stories at the moment. We premiered this play in twenty
48:56
Speaker 22: twenty two, so long before any of the political up
48:59
Speaker 22: people that we're sort of facing now, and we had
49:01
Speaker 22: an extraordinary action to it the first time round. The
49:04
Speaker 22: production guarded numerous awards. It was named by the Guardian
49:08
Speaker 22: antaim Art as one of the best shows in Australia.
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Speaker 5: Know of the year.
49:12
Speaker 22: We then had it programmed at the malt House Theater
49:16
Speaker 22: in earlier this year in March, and that was obviously
49:18
Speaker 22: after October seven, and that's when we started to feel
49:21
Speaker 22: the discomfort within the industry and within the cultural sector
49:25
Speaker 22: around any material that deals with Jewish themes and Jewish content.
49:31
Speaker 2: Do you think this is reflected across the broader art space.
49:35
Speaker 2: Are you concerned Jewish voices and the arts are being erased?
49:41
Speaker 22: I think a lot of Jewish artists right now are
49:43
Speaker 22: feeling like they've been pushed into a very, very tough corner.
49:46
Speaker 22: A lot of the conversation within cultural circles over the
49:49
Speaker 22: past decade or so have been around who has the
49:52
Speaker 22: right to tell whose stories. So there's a lot of
49:55
Speaker 22: very very careful consideration around who gets to direct, who
49:58
Speaker 22: gets to write, who gets to tell whose stories. And
50:01
Speaker 22: I think many Jewish creatives feel that they've been pushed
50:04
Speaker 22: into a box where they're only allowed to tell Jewish
50:06
Speaker 22: stories at a time when no main stage companies are
50:09
Speaker 22: wanting to tell Jewish stories, and there is this discomfort
50:13
Speaker 22: around that.
50:14
Speaker 2: And then we've also seen a lot of Jewish artists
50:18
Speaker 2: being grilled over what their position is on the war
50:20
Speaker 2: before anyone would support them.
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Speaker 3: It's utterly outrageous.
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Speaker 2: All right, Gary, thank you for your time, and the
50:26
Speaker 2: Entil season has been extended until the seventeenth of November.
50:30
Speaker 2: I can't give a personal recommendation, I haven't seen it,
50:33
Speaker 2: but for more info go to the Upper House website.
50:36
Speaker 2: Now that's all we've got time for tonight. If you
50:38
Speaker 2: want to catch up with any of my interviews on
50:41
Speaker 2: the US election tonight, Joe Hockey in particular, our former Ambassador.
50:45
Speaker 2: You can head to the Sky News website to have
50:48
Speaker 2: a look at that Ross Greenwood as well.
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Speaker 3: Every night this week.
50:51
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring interviews live from the US, Big Interviews,
50:55
Speaker 2: so you're right up to date with what's going on
50:58
Speaker 2: with Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. And no one will
51:02
Speaker 2: know more than Paul Murray, who right now is live
51:05
Speaker 2: in Dallas in the US.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to
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Speaker 2: See you tomorrow at eight pm.