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Chuck & Buck 10-21 Hour 1: And it's all over.... Mariners Morning After and Naylor's immediate impact. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Sounds Chrick, Good morning, folks.
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Speaker 2: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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Speaker 1: Good morning class ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen.
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Speaker 2: Behold inducing six one yard from Brighton, Illanois and former
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Speaker 2: high school basketball stand.
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Speaker 1: What in the hell does en me? Don't jumped any conclusions,
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Speaker 1: not a god. You've got to lower you lower your expectations.
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Speaker 2: Hard to believe we could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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Speaker 3: I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
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Speaker 3: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped ex athlete.
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Speaker 4: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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Speaker 2: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.
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Speaker 4: A lot of useless crap up here.
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Speaker 2: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan.
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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Welcome into the radio program.
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Speaker 2: It is Chuggunbuck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 2: We're here for you on a Tuesday and in more
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Speaker 2: ways than one, because I know the people out there
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Speaker 2: need the support. Rough night, last night for the Seattle
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Speaker 2: sports scene. Yeah, the football team won, but certainly all
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Speaker 2: thoughts were or at least most of them with the
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Speaker 2: Mariners and their attempt to make history, to end the
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Speaker 2: drought and make it to the World Series for the
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Speaker 2: first time in franchise history, and they came up three
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Speaker 2: innings short, lost to the Toronto Blue Jays four to
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Speaker 2: three last night. And so we gather again here on
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Speaker 2: this Tuesday morning, Ashley Ryan, Buck Jacobson, and Chuck Powell
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Speaker 2: to sort of make sense of it all here on
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Speaker 2: a Tuesday morning. Certainly not the result that we were
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Speaker 2: looking for. I know, for many of you lifelong fans,
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Speaker 2: a crushing blow last night, and there's nothing that.
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Speaker 1: We're going to say today that's going to make you
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Speaker 1: feel better about anything.
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Speaker 2: But last night, Bucky and I had a little bit
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Speaker 2: of a two hour therapy session and it went pretty well.
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Speaker 2: You know, on our postgame show last night, we took
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Speaker 2: some calls and things of that nature and actually talked
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Speaker 2: to a lot of people that had a pretty good
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Speaker 2: level head about all of this. I'm sure a lot
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Speaker 2: of the others just didn't want to call and didn't
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Speaker 2: want to talk about it. I'm sure there were people
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Speaker 2: that didn't have a very level head about it last night.
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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, maybe that's the role that we can play
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Speaker 2: in your lives here this morning, just kind of talking
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Speaker 2: through it here because the Mariners came up just a
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Speaker 2: little bit short of the World Series.
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Speaker 3: The yeah, yeah, and it felt good for most of
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Speaker 3: the game, you know, felt like you're on your way,
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Speaker 3: and a couple missed opportunities and a couple opportunities seized
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Speaker 3: by the opponent.
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Speaker 1: I mean it, it's a rough one.
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Speaker 3: I feel worse actually today than I did right after
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Speaker 3: the game.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the hour of sleep. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe that's what it is.
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Speaker 3: Or if it's that, I mean, I think that it's
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Speaker 3: it's a combination. I mean it's it kind of sinks
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Speaker 3: in that now, as excited.
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Speaker 1: As I am about how well, how well, how.
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Speaker 3: Much I like the team right, not just the dudes,
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Speaker 3: but how they play, and I think that there's still
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Speaker 3: is potential for growth with a lot of these players.
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Speaker 1: I think they can still get better.
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Speaker 3: We didn't just watch an old team, you know, with
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Speaker 3: their last chance at possibly doing something fun and memorable
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Speaker 3: for us as fans to ride along with. It still
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Speaker 3: is the prospect of watching one hundred and sixty two
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Speaker 3: to get back to a place to hopefully be able
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Speaker 3: to be nine outs away from punching your ticket to
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Speaker 3: the big one. It just feels daunting. It doesn't feel
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Speaker 3: impossible by any stretch. I know for a fact, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to be optimistic when you know, as time kind
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Speaker 3: of goes by.
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Speaker 1: But I'm one that typically doesn't expect.
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Speaker 3: I don't expect the twenty twenty five Mariners to make
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Speaker 3: up for heartbreak that I've suffered as a Mariner fan
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Speaker 3: and even the little bit as a Mariner player for
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Speaker 3: the past forty five years. Basically, I don't think I
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Speaker 3: was a big marinor fan before I was five, but
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Speaker 3: up until then or since then, I have been. It's
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Speaker 3: not their obligation to make up for that. And so
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Speaker 3: when they fall short of the goals that they had
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Speaker 3: put forth and almost achieved and that they were attainable,
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Speaker 3: I can't really throw it back on them, as if
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Speaker 3: you let me down for forty five years, you let
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Speaker 3: me down this year.
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Speaker 1: And yet I'm.
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Speaker 3: Positive you watch some clips of these guys and I
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Speaker 3: think the they let themselves and let they feel far
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Speaker 3: more they feel worse about it than even I do
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Speaker 3: and most Mariner fans. So I just think that it's
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Speaker 3: a it's a rough it's a rough morning, for sure,
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Speaker 3: because you kind of saw it right there on the
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Speaker 3: horizon before that one big swing that George Springer took.
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Speaker 5: I found that I didn't even allow myself to think
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Speaker 5: about the World Series until the first inning last night.
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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the thought crept in of like
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Speaker 5: this is Game seven, Like the winner of this, yeah,
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Speaker 5: goes to.
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Speaker 1: The World Series.
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Speaker 5: And it kind of was the first time that I'd
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Speaker 5: actually allowed myself to think about it. And then I
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Speaker 5: then the thought went away, and I was like, nope,
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Speaker 5: we got a long.
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Speaker 1: Game to go.
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Speaker 5: Just we're just just playing a baseball game. Let's just
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Speaker 5: see what happens. And then once we were nine outs away,
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Speaker 5: everybody you kept seeing everybody, Okay, nine outs, nine outs,
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Speaker 5: that's all we gotta do, and it was seeming like
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Speaker 5: this is actually now within reach. And so I'd finally
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Speaker 5: got into the part where I was going to let
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Speaker 5: myself think this could happen, and then Springer came and
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Speaker 5: I just it was like crush, like gut punch, and
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Speaker 5: just it was the second that happened, and I normally
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Speaker 5: have never that way because I always think this team
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Speaker 5: can rally, this team can come back. I don't know,
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Speaker 5: but something about that home run from George Springer, it
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Speaker 5: was like, Nope, that's it, it's done, and it sucked.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a gut punch. I mean, here,
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Speaker 2: you get to a game seven, you led most of
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Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, you you know, I had our boss
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Speaker 2: sitting next to me during the course of the game
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Speaker 2: pretty much just counting down the outs audibly in my ear,
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Speaker 2: and his anxiety certainly added to my anxiety in the moment.
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Speaker 2: But when you I mean you basically outplayed them for
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Speaker 2: seventy percent of the game. You led seventy percent of
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Speaker 2: the game.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And then they had after the first inning, really just
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Speaker 2: one rally. I mean, I guess they put one together
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Speaker 2: in the munnose inning and we got out of that.
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Speaker 2: Got a little lucky there to get out of that
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Speaker 2: without any further damage. And that's why I thought, oh man,
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Speaker 2: they're gonna do this again. We just they had first
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Speaker 2: and third, nobody out. They just hit a bullet and
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Speaker 2: Nailer nabbed it, doubled the guy off first.
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Speaker 1: We are gonna do that. They're gonna do this to
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Speaker 1: us again.
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Speaker 2: They're just gonna take it all the way to the
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Speaker 2: brink and then pull it out miraculously. It's the year
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Speaker 2: of Cal. He was due up fourth the following inning.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the year of Cal. He's gonna get
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Speaker 2: up there somehow, Julio's gonna work a walk, Something's gonna happen.
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Speaker 2: Cal's gonna get to the plate and do something spectacular
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Speaker 2: in the Year of Cal.
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Speaker 1: So I didn't.
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Speaker 2: I was still thinking that they were gonna pull it
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Speaker 2: off somehow, even after the Springer home run.
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Speaker 1: But there's no doubt.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a gut punch because you led
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Speaker 2: most of the way, you did enter sort of countdown
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Speaker 2: mode at some point you couldn't help but do it.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And it was just a matter of and it really
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Speaker 2: was a matter of how do we get to Munnos?
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Speaker 2: How are we going to get because he was going
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Speaker 2: to pitch two innings, How are we going to get
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Speaker 2: to Munos? And that in between period that Dan Wilson
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Speaker 2: found himself in is the thing that Mariner fans are
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Speaker 2: going to debate for the rest of their lives. I
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Speaker 2: don't care if you're fifteen years old, like Bennett who
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Speaker 2: called into the show last night, or if you're one
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Speaker 2: hundred and five and you felt that this was the
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Speaker 2: last chance you had to add to see the Mariners
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Speaker 2: get into the World Series. For the rest of Mariner
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Speaker 2: fans lives, they are going to debate whether or not
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Speaker 2: Dan Wilson pushed the right buttons there, and obviously he didn't.
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Speaker 1: Springer ends up hitting the home run.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't necessarily mean he made a mistake, but certainly
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Speaker 2: a debatable topic for the rest of a Mariner fan's
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Speaker 2: life as to what should have happened in that sequence.
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Speaker 1: It's very clear, Bucky.
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Speaker 2: That what Dan Wilson was I think the organization had
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Speaker 2: kind of tied themselves to was George Kirby through two
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Speaker 2: turns through the lineup, and we don't want to expose
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Speaker 2: him for a third turn because that's where he's gotten
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Speaker 2: in trouble, and each of his postseason starts is to
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Speaker 2: have face a lineup the third time through, and even
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Speaker 2: though he was mowing people down, they stuck to their
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Speaker 2: game plan. It was going to be four innings for Kirby,
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Speaker 2: and then Tom Verducci said before the game Brian who
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Speaker 2: was going to play a major role in this game tonight.
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Speaker 2: And so the idea was that Brian Wu, we saw
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Speaker 2: enough in his last outing. He's going to go for
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Speaker 2: three innings. That's the master plan, and then we handed
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Speaker 2: over to Munjos for two innings. And their plan b
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Speaker 2: was if anybody gets in trouble along the way, because
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Speaker 2: Spire was up early and then Bizardo was up late,
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Speaker 2: and we're going to put out the middle of the
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Speaker 2: inning fires with Spire Bizardo and I would presume Brash
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Speaker 2: might have been the third guy that they might have
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Speaker 2: used in that scenario. And so they stuck to the
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Speaker 2: game plan. But something that Bucky said last night, something
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Speaker 2: you said, stuck with me on the drive home. I
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Speaker 2: woke up with it this morning, and that was man
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Speaker 2: Brian Wu had dominated George Springer in that one at
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Speaker 2: bat that they faced. I mean, George Springer had obviously
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Speaker 2: a great series against.
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Speaker 1: Us, had a great year this year.
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Speaker 2: But the one time he looked not just he looked
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Speaker 2: foolish was the one at Batti had against Brian Wu
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Speaker 2: last night.
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Speaker 1: And you know, we had.
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Speaker 2: A long conversation about whether or not you should add
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Speaker 2: Munnos ready. A lot of people were talking about that.
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Speaker 2: It turns out last night I didn't find out that
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Speaker 2: until I was home. We talked about it significantly last
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Speaker 2: night in the postgame show. We even entertained the idea
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Speaker 2: of at least have Brash ready, have a strikeout guy
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Speaker 2: ready in that situation. But more I thought about it,
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Speaker 2: the more what you said about Wu dominating Springer, It's
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Speaker 2: not like Brian Wu. I mean, he walked the first batter.
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Speaker 2: Shame on Brian of that inning, and then Kiner Filefa
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Speaker 2: with his kind of falafel base hit through the middle
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Speaker 2: of the inning, the middle of the of the diamond,
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Speaker 2: which was flukish, and then you got the sacrifice bunt down.
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Speaker 2: Maybe Wu, maybe you should have stuck with your game plan.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you should have stuck with Brian Wu in that
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Speaker 2: situation and see if the guy who's pitched better than
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Speaker 2: any other Mariner throughout the course of the year, that
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Speaker 2: you felt good enough about physically to put into to
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Speaker 2: take George Kirby out of the game when he was
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Speaker 2: mowing fools down and put Wu into the game with
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Speaker 2: the idea that you were on pitch him for three innings.
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Speaker 2: Maybe that was the mistake. Maybe it wasn't that Munjos
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Speaker 2: wasn't up and ready to go just in case, or
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Speaker 2: that Brash was also up with Bizardo because maybe you
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Speaker 2: would need a strike out that inning and he's more
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Speaker 2: of a strikeout pitcher. Those are both things that we
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Speaker 2: discussed last night. Maybe the route to go was to
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Speaker 2: have stuck to the game plan and see if Brian
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Speaker 2: Wu could make George Springer look foolish again. Maybe that
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Speaker 2: was the error as we That's what I kind of
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Speaker 2: arrived at by the time I came.
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Speaker 1: Into work this morning.
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Speaker 2: That now, because I had said last night I wanted
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Speaker 2: Munos up in that situation just in case traffic on
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Speaker 2: the base pass last time, you're going to face the
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Speaker 2: top of the order, why won't you have your best
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Speaker 2: reliever ready for that situation. I thought that was an
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Speaker 2: air last night. I still think you probably should have
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Speaker 2: done that. But maybe the decision was the original plan.
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Speaker 2: Brian Wu's not like he was getting hit around the ballpark, Bucky.
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Speaker 2: I mean, let him face Springer and see if he
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Speaker 2: can get out of that mess, rather than going to
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Speaker 2: bizar to in that situation.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean we've talked about it multiple times throughout
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Speaker 3: the course of the season, and I've most recently when
12:58
Speaker 3: we were talking during the Detroit series when they decided
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Speaker 3: to take Trek Scooble out of a game, and I
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Speaker 3: remember you saying, you know, you've probably made a mistake
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Speaker 3: when the other team is joyous over the fact that,
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Speaker 3: thank God he's out. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like, oh, thanks,
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Speaker 3: Whether it's pitch cown or you think you got the
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Speaker 3: lead enough and now you're gonna go to guys that
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Speaker 3: are used to pitching in this inning or what like,
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Speaker 3: there's something to that. And I kind of felt that
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Speaker 3: in the moment of they were actually showing the TV
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Speaker 3: was actually showing George Springer like.
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Speaker 1: Dann, are you gonna come get him out? Are you
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Speaker 1: gonna You're gonna make a pitching change?
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Speaker 3: I hope right, because he did not, Like I mean,
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Speaker 3: the last two times he faced him, he wore one
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Speaker 3: off the knee and then got struck out on three pitches,
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Speaker 3: looking horrendous, looking as bad as he's looked probably ever
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Speaker 3: in a postseason at bat. You know, there's things about
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Speaker 3: Brian Wu that are kind of surprised me as to
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Speaker 3: how dominant he is and can be with just his fastball.
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Speaker 3: But I think it's there's something about the arm angle,
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Speaker 3: and there's something about the late life on it, and
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Speaker 3: there's something about how he hides it a little bit
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Speaker 3: because it makes it.
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Speaker 1: He makes it look like it's really hard, really hard
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Speaker 1: to hit.
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Speaker 3: And obviously it is and and and so yeah, there's
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Speaker 3: questions to be had there there, and unfortunately there are
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Speaker 3: questions that will never know an answer to.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing exactly about it that sometimes he stays in.
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Speaker 2: He gives up a home run to George Spring, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, and you know, well, and you know, you
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Speaker 3: bring in a guy that's been pretty damn nails for you,
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Speaker 3: and you know there's a chance that he gets out
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Speaker 3: of that situation too. And so I just it didn't
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Speaker 3: happen last night, and unfortunately we have to kind of
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Speaker 3: live with it. But yeah, the the questions, I mean,
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Speaker 3: you know, I think Dan Wilson said we were listening
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Speaker 3: to his press conference last night a little bit during
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Speaker 3: the post game show, and he's like, you make decisions,
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Speaker 3: and you live with the decisions you make. And and
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Speaker 3: so I think that a lot of times in playoff Bay,
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Speaker 3: you want to be a little bit preemptive, right during
15:03
Speaker 3: the regular season, you'd let things ride a little bit,
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Speaker 3: you kind of kind of let it breathe and see
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Speaker 3: what your guys can do to get out of it.
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Speaker 3: Typically in the postseason you want to make sure that
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Speaker 3: you don't you're not a batter too late, and so
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably where they They're right, here's our
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Speaker 3: game plan, and if we're going to make adjustments, it's
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Speaker 3: going to try to be a little bit preemptive on it.
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Speaker 3: And I just now, yeah, I really really wish we
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Speaker 3: would have been able to see what Brian wu could
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Speaker 3: do against George Springer there. But that's there's a part
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Speaker 3: of that, even though I was thinking in the moment,
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Speaker 3: there's still is part of it. My feeling with it
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Speaker 3: right now most certainly is based on the way in
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Speaker 3: which the outcome happened.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the problem first year manager and
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Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, who I thought the speed of the game
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Speaker 2: kind of did haunt him during the course of the year,
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Speaker 2: and it certainly gets ramped up in the playoffs, and
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Speaker 2: it absolutely gets ramped up in a Game seven. But
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Speaker 2: I think they had a game plan, and I think
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Speaker 2: he's stuck with a game plan, and where would that
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Speaker 2: plan be in case the game plan has to adjust
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Speaker 2: on the fly. I mean football coaches have to do
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Speaker 2: this all the time.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, you're showing this look now, even
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Speaker 2: though I wanted to run this play and you can
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Speaker 2: call an audible at some point, what was wrong with
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Speaker 2: getting Munjos and Bizardo ready?
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Speaker 1: What was wrong with that?
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Speaker 2: It's as if we had a game plan and he
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Speaker 2: just went out there to execute the game plan. If
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Speaker 2: Wu gets in any trouble or if Kirby gets in
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Speaker 2: any trouble mid inning, we're bringing Inspire.
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Speaker 1: He was standing up ready to go. Then we're going
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Speaker 1: to go to Wu.
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Speaker 2: If Wu gets into any trouble and first and second
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Speaker 2: nobody out, or second and third one out because they
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Speaker 2: kept him in for the sack bunt uh, then we're
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Speaker 2: going to Bizardo and then we're going to go for
16:42
Speaker 2: Munjos to close it out. Like if anything, that I
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Speaker 2: would criticize because going to Bizardo should not be something
16:51
Speaker 2: that Marin or fans are furious about. He was really
16:53
Speaker 2: good all year long. He was good every outing. He
16:57
Speaker 2: was outstanding. I mean we were talking about him in
16:59
Speaker 2: the last year. Is the sung hero of this team,
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Speaker 2: and yet I still don't view him as one of
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Speaker 2: our top two dudes coming out of the bullpen and
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Speaker 2: in the biggest at bat of the entire year. If
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Speaker 2: you would have told me we were going to go
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Speaker 2: to Bizardo to face George Springer with the with the
17:18
Speaker 2: World Series on the line at the beginning of the year,
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Speaker 2: I would have probably had you submitted somewhere, you know, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like committed to you know, a straight jacket for the
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Speaker 2: rest of your life. No way was that ever going
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Speaker 2: to happen. And and yet he kind of painted himself
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Speaker 2: into that corner of I don't have anybody else loose,
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Speaker 2: I gotta go with Bizardo here because that's the game
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Speaker 2: plan that we came in with. To me, after thinking
17:46
Speaker 2: about it for a while, if that's the corner that
17:48
Speaker 2: you painted yourself in, to me, Brian Wu is the
17:52
Speaker 2: better operator in that situation, and you should have just
17:55
Speaker 2: rowed that out.
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Speaker 1: But that's a little bit of hindsight.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly in the moment, I felt Munho should be
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Speaker 2: up and ready in case.
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Speaker 1: But if you didn't go that.
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Speaker 2: Direction, then maybe you let your best pitcher see if
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Speaker 2: he can at least get Springer out in that situation.
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Speaker 5: Well, and what about the idea of just intentionally walking
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Speaker 5: Springer too? I mean I saw a lot of people
18:18
Speaker 5: asking that question, like why. I mean even it was
18:21
Speaker 5: I think the analyst said that before they when they
18:24
Speaker 5: were taking Wu out and Springer was due up, they
18:26
Speaker 5: were saying, do you think the Marriagers are going to
18:28
Speaker 5: intentionally walk Springer here?
18:30
Speaker 2: I don't like that idea at all because there was
18:33
Speaker 2: only one out. So if you walk him, okay, you
18:36
Speaker 2: get Lucas to come to the plate.
18:39
Speaker 1: But then you've got Guerrero.
18:41
Speaker 2: I mean they came into the game wondering if we
18:44
Speaker 2: should pitch to Guerrero at all. Yeah, so you certainly
18:47
Speaker 2: aren't going to risk loading the bases for him in
18:49
Speaker 2: the seventh inning with the game on the line. And
18:52
Speaker 2: he didn't exactly look off his game last night. He
18:54
Speaker 2: didn't get struck out once, but he nearly took the
18:58
Speaker 2: head off of Randy A. Roseerena and has lasted past.
19:02
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's I mean, maybe it would
19:06
Speaker 3: have worked because you're at that point, if you're walking Springer,
19:09
Speaker 3: you're showing him the respect that he deserves because he
19:12
Speaker 3: as much as I can't stand the guy. He's damn
19:14
Speaker 3: good in the postseason, and and he was good there.
19:17
Speaker 3: Obviously the moment's never too big for him. And yet
19:22
Speaker 3: you're basically saying, God, I hope we get a double
19:24
Speaker 3: play here. Otherwise you're brilling bringing lad into the equation.
19:27
Speaker 3: And if I have to pick my poison, I don't care.
19:31
Speaker 3: Even in hindsight, George Springer goes yard and you know,
19:34
Speaker 3: basically propels them to win. I still am picking George
19:38
Speaker 3: Springer that I'm going after.
19:40
Speaker 1: George Springer who clearly couldn't put weight on his back leg.
19:45
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, look like you put enough weight on it
19:49
Speaker 3: there in that swing.
19:50
Speaker 1: Yeah uh yeah.
19:51
Speaker 3: It's again that that's the part. That's the thing that sucks,
19:55
Speaker 3: whether you're a fan or whether you're a player, is
19:58
Speaker 3: the decisions, the actions, the way in which you play,
20:02
Speaker 3: the opportunities missed that you never get to do over again.
20:06
Speaker 3: You never get to know what would have happened if
20:08
Speaker 3: we did this, or if I would have done that,
20:10
Speaker 3: or none of it matters. You just basically find yourself
20:14
Speaker 3: on the outside looking in, three innings away from punching
20:17
Speaker 3: your ticket to the World Series. And it stings. And
20:20
Speaker 3: so I mean the pain's real. I think the players
20:23
Speaker 3: feel it, we as fans feel it, and unfortunately we
20:26
Speaker 3: got to wait until this time next year to try
20:28
Speaker 3: to redo it.
20:28
Speaker 1: All right, we got four hours to discuss it.
20:30
Speaker 2: We will talk some Seahawks football today as well. That's
20:34
Speaker 2: pretty much the game plan for US today, and we
20:37
Speaker 2: probably won't adjust on the fly either. Let's find out
20:39
Speaker 2: what's on tap for today's show.
20:41
Speaker 1: Well, what's on TEP, what's on top?
20:47
Speaker 2: One last session with Ryan Healey his thoughts here today
20:50
Speaker 2: at eight thirty. Even though I do believe we found
20:53
Speaker 2: a friend of the program, and who knows, maybe we'll
20:55
Speaker 2: hear from more of Ryan throughout the offseason. He's been
20:59
Speaker 2: terrific through the postseason four US, so we'll have a
21:01
Speaker 2: chat with him about the season coming to a close
21:04
Speaker 2: at eight thirty today. The World Series will start on Friday.
21:07
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure I'm gonna watch.
21:09
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have any interest as of
21:10
Speaker 1: right now. That's what I said. I was last night.
21:12
Speaker 5: I was like, I have no interest in watching the
21:14
Speaker 5: World Series. That all my mom goes, yes, you will,
21:15
Speaker 5: because you'll have to talk about it at work. I said, no,
21:17
Speaker 5: we don't.
21:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we will. We can read the highlights.
21:19
Speaker 2: As much as I want to see Show Aotani, I
21:22
Speaker 2: just can't get enough of watching Show Aotani. I really
21:25
Speaker 2: at this stage have no interest in this Monday Night football.
21:28
Speaker 2: Seahawks twenty seven to nineteen winners over the Houston Texans
21:31
Speaker 2: last night. Monday Morning quarterback session today from nine to
21:34
Speaker 2: ten with Hugh Millen, so we will discuss that Seahawks
21:38
Speaker 2: enter the bye week with a five and two record,
21:41
Speaker 2: which is tied for the second best record in the
21:43
Speaker 2: entire NFC right now, So Seahawks enter the bye week
21:48
Speaker 2: on a really strong note.
21:49
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Also.
21:51
Speaker 2: Greg Bell joins this at seven oh five. Lions won
21:53
Speaker 2: over the Buccaneers last night twenty four to nine, both
21:57
Speaker 2: of those teams five and two on the year as well.
21:59
Speaker 2: Husky host Illinois Saturday at twelve thirty. Intimidating. I know,
22:03
Speaker 2: to face powerhouse like that, just one hundred years of
22:07
Speaker 2: just nothing but dominance. But you will do their best
22:10
Speaker 2: against the Orange and Blue crack and fall to the
22:13
Speaker 2: Flyers last night five to two. It's their first outright
22:17
Speaker 2: loss of the entire season. They will be back in
22:20
Speaker 2: action tonight against the Washington Capital, so back to back
22:24
Speaker 2: road games.
22:25
Speaker 1: They'll start that at four o'clock.
22:27
Speaker 2: Sounders will take on Minnesota United to start the MLS playoffs,
22:30
Speaker 2: or at least their MLS playoff Monday at six o'clock.
22:34
Speaker 2: And believe it or not, the NBA season tips off
22:37
Speaker 2: tonight on NBC and Peacock Houston at Oklahoma City and
22:42
Speaker 2: Golden State at the Lakers, the two games being played
22:45
Speaker 2: this evening in the National Basketball Association. We're not going
22:49
Speaker 2: to talk about it, Mariners morning After his next Sports
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Speaker 2: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, since certainly at insign disappointment. Man,
22:57
Speaker 2: your three innings away from your first ever World Series
23:00
Speaker 2: bon it appearance, and there's no escaping feeling crushed.
23:05
Speaker 1: I get that they.
23:06
Speaker 2: Certainly the players felt crushed, the organization felt crushed last night,
23:10
Speaker 2: and god knows the fan base felt crushed to getting
23:13
Speaker 2: that close and then not seeing that dream realized. The
23:17
Speaker 2: Blue Jays went at four to three, a three run
23:20
Speaker 2: homer late in the contest, and so we recap it.
23:24
Speaker 2: It's Mariners morning after. We've been doing it all season long.
23:27
Speaker 2: We're certainly not going to stop now. Mariners led for
23:31
Speaker 2: most of this game last night. They jumped out to
23:33
Speaker 2: a one nothing lead in the very first inning thanks
23:36
Speaker 2: to Josh Naylor RBI single that scored Julio, who doubled
23:39
Speaker 2: the start the game. Blue Jays came right back in
23:42
Speaker 2: the bottom of the first to tie it, but then
23:44
Speaker 2: Julio's home run on a great at that a phenomenal
23:48
Speaker 2: at bat and the third inning gave the team a two.
23:50
Speaker 1: To one lead.
23:51
Speaker 2: Cal added a dinger in the fifth to make it
23:53
Speaker 2: three to one, and the score remained that way all
23:57
Speaker 2: the way to the bottom of the seventh inning. Rather
24:00
Speaker 2: than play the low light of what occurred, I'm going
24:03
Speaker 2: to play something that will sound a lot more appealing
24:07
Speaker 2: to you.
24:07
Speaker 1: Here's just some random fart noises. Yeah, oh geez.
24:14
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, much better.
24:19
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah there highlights from Fox Sports. Yeah,
24:31
Speaker 1: thanks for that. Yeah, Fox as Joe Davis and John
24:34
Speaker 1: Smoltz right there on the call, he.
24:36
Speaker 5: Could have just said, and here's what happened when George Springer.
24:39
Speaker 2: Scept yeah, well I didn't even want to say the name.
24:43
Speaker 1: I didn't even want to lead up to it.
24:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just gonna, like, I figured people would
24:48
Speaker 2: rather hear that on loop then have to hear that.
24:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to hear that again. Yeah, I
24:54
Speaker 3: don't even want to think about it. But yeah, yeah,
24:56
Speaker 3: it's probably the thing that I hate the most about it,
25:01
Speaker 3: about the way in which it happened. Yeah, there's not
25:05
Speaker 3: a person that I would want to have success less.
25:09
Speaker 3: Might be a good dude, probably is a good dude,
25:12
Speaker 3: but yeah, he's just the whole thing.
25:15
Speaker 2: Well, and then the whole launch and you just knew
25:19
Speaker 2: it was coming from Blue Jays fans of the Karma
25:22
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. Stop get off your high horse.
25:26
Speaker 2: We have documented proof that you booed players who were
25:31
Speaker 2: holding up the game in games that you played in
25:35
Speaker 2: your own stadiums.
25:36
Speaker 1: I don't like that we did that. I really don't.
25:38
Speaker 1: I didn't like it in the moment.
25:40
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, you've been booing him throughout for the
25:43
Speaker 2: last several years now, and you can keep doing that
25:46
Speaker 2: to the end of time. But I don't like the
25:48
Speaker 2: idea of booing an injured player. But almost every fan
25:51
Speaker 2: base in a situation like that has had a few
25:57
Speaker 2: people do that during and when you have fifty thousand
26:00
Speaker 2: on the edge of their seat, yeah they you know,
26:03
Speaker 2: they ended up hearing some booze and cheers for injury,
26:06
Speaker 2: what have you. I don't like it, it happened, but
26:08
Speaker 2: it's happened in Toronto games in the past. Several examples
26:12
Speaker 2: have been pointed out. So stop get stop acting all
26:15
Speaker 2: high and mighty about this.
26:16
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's ridiculous, acting like we would never ye
26:21
Speaker 5: were Canadians and we're nice.
26:23
Speaker 2: Uh well, four to three is the final score. The
26:27
Speaker 2: season comes to a close in painful fashion. Dan Wilson
26:31
Speaker 2: after the game.
26:33
Speaker 6: I mean, Brian was throwing the ball, so you know,
26:35
Speaker 6: first of all, Georgie I thought through the ball excellent,
26:38
Speaker 6: and then Brian picked up right where George.
26:40
Speaker 4: Left off and and you know, gave us a good
26:44
Speaker 4: spot to be in.
26:44
Speaker 6: And you know, after the walk, you know, hoping to
26:48
Speaker 6: get the ground ball, which we did, but it just found.
26:50
Speaker 4: A hole and then you know, knew him as it
26:53
Speaker 4: was going to bunt there.
26:54
Speaker 6: And and you know, Bizarto has been the guy that's
26:57
Speaker 6: that's gotten us through those situations, those tight ones, especially
27:00
Speaker 6: in the pivot role, and you know, that's that's where
27:02
Speaker 6: we were going at that point. You know, we felt
27:04
Speaker 6: really comfortable with him out there. The way he's been
27:06
Speaker 6: throwing the ball, especially in this series, and and you know,
27:10
Speaker 6: it was.
27:10
Speaker 1: A good spot for him.
27:11
Speaker 4: You know, you make your decisions and and uh, you know, sometimes.
27:16
Speaker 6: You know, you have to live and die with it,
27:18
Speaker 6: and and uh, you know, I think again, the way
27:21
Speaker 6: Zarto has thrown the ball all season long, we were
27:23
Speaker 6: comfortable with where we were, and you know, uh, it
27:27
Speaker 6: just again didn't didn't go our way. It was just
27:30
Speaker 6: an outstanding season.
27:31
Speaker 2: Of three Dan Wilson after the game last night. So
27:36
Speaker 2: there's no avoiding it. You know, if it doesn't work out,
27:39
Speaker 2: your people are going to question it, and I think
27:41
Speaker 2: there are, certainly we've already discussed it, some things to
27:44
Speaker 2: question here. I don't think what you question is whether
27:47
Speaker 2: or not Bizardo deserved a shot in that moment, because
27:51
Speaker 2: I do think he's been very good all season long,
27:54
Speaker 2: very good to great all season long, and surprisingly so
27:58
Speaker 2: I certainly didn't have expectations for Bizardo to have the
28:02
Speaker 2: year that he's had this year. But I mean in
28:06
Speaker 2: the moment, and that a lot of especially former major
28:10
Speaker 2: leaguers and analysts have been expressing this overnight, how do
28:14
Speaker 2: you come out, how do you have that two run lead?
28:16
Speaker 2: Bottom of the seventh and not throw your best out there.
28:19
Speaker 2: How is Munnos not ready? And as we discussed in
28:22
Speaker 2: the first segment, if not Munnos, then how do you
28:25
Speaker 2: not just stick it out with your other best pitcher
28:27
Speaker 2: during the course of the season, that being Brian Woo
28:30
Speaker 2: to see if he can wiggle out of that situation.
28:33
Speaker 2: And I think there's merit to both of those. I
28:36
Speaker 2: think I would have rather preferred either of those roots
28:40
Speaker 2: to what the decision was made last night. It was
28:42
Speaker 2: very clear they had a game plan before the game started.
28:45
Speaker 2: This is what they were going to do in these situations,
28:48
Speaker 2: and they just stuck with the game plan rather than
28:52
Speaker 2: kind of feeling the moment and what the moment might require.
28:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know how it would have worked out,
28:57
Speaker 3: but I mean, even at that moment, you're basically as
29:01
Speaker 3: close as you've ever been, and then you're in your
29:04
Speaker 3: toughest situation, right, And it's in large part I mean
29:07
Speaker 3: I would have liked to have seen Wu go against
29:11
Speaker 3: Springer there and see.
29:11
Speaker 1: What the heck happens. But he did walk the nine
29:14
Speaker 1: hole hitter.
29:16
Speaker 3: Or the eight hole hitter, right, seven hitter, and then
29:20
Speaker 3: they eight hitter, and then they bonted the nine guy.
29:22
Speaker 1: I mean, that walk is a bad situation right there.
29:27
Speaker 3: And so I mean there's a lot of people who
29:29
Speaker 3: just can't wait to, you know, cast stones about about
29:32
Speaker 3: Dan Wilson and how poor it was. I'll just say
29:35
Speaker 3: to me, when you're needing a strikeout, if you look
29:38
Speaker 3: at Bizarto's numbers, basically, I mean he threw in more
29:41
Speaker 3: games than anybody else in the postseason, he had good numbers.
29:45
Speaker 3: He had one bad game, I think it was in
29:47
Speaker 3: the Detroit series, and then other than that, he put
29:49
Speaker 3: up zeros pretty much every time, with the exception I
29:52
Speaker 3: think he gave up one single run and another outing,
29:54
Speaker 3: but it didn't cost us. But he still was giving
29:57
Speaker 3: up about a hit an inning, whereas you go to
30:00
Speaker 3: Brash or Munos and they were not even close to
30:04
Speaker 3: a hit. And it's it's one of those if you're
30:06
Speaker 3: looking for a strikeout. You had two guys that were better,
30:10
Speaker 3: and yet you ended up using what is the third
30:12
Speaker 3: best guy in your bullpen. And that's that's a compliment.
30:16
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a good good on you, bizarre you
30:18
Speaker 3: You pitched really well, you earned high leverage situations, but
30:22
Speaker 3: the other two earned the highest level of leverage situations,
30:26
Speaker 3: and yet you you basically ended up kind of leaving
30:30
Speaker 3: one bullet in the chamber with Brash. Now, I don't
30:33
Speaker 3: knowly twenty pitches a day before, two innings the day before, Yeah,
30:38
Speaker 3: well I'm not sure if Bizarro just has more of
30:41
Speaker 3: a rubber arm, if there was something to Brash not
30:44
Speaker 3: being actually kind of available unless you absolutely needed it, right,
30:48
Speaker 3: That's what I was getting at, because otherwise I don't
30:50
Speaker 3: understand how you wouldn't have had him up right unless
30:53
Speaker 3: it was how's every feeling today and he's like arms
30:57
Speaker 3: hanging all right, Well, then we adjust that accordingly. And
31:00
Speaker 3: maybe that's where Bizardo goes there and you go mun
31:03
Speaker 3: Too's a couple more innings to close that thing out.
31:06
Speaker 3: If you know, Springer just pops up ball and that's
31:09
Speaker 3: the speed of the game. Point like, as slow moving
31:12
Speaker 3: as baseball seems to be to a lot of people.
31:15
Speaker 3: I mean, you started that inning with seven, eight and nine.
31:19
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have to face Springer, g and
31:21
Speaker 3: Guerrero one more time. It's bottom of the seventh. You're
31:25
Speaker 3: up to how do you not have one of your
31:27
Speaker 3: two best and if you don't have one of your
31:29
Speaker 3: two best if you didn't have time to get them ready,
31:32
Speaker 3: then why not stick with your best starting pitcher in
31:36
Speaker 3: that moment. So I think there is room for criticism,
31:39
Speaker 3: not that they went to Bizardo, but that they had
31:43
Speaker 3: other options available. And it feels like the game moved
31:46
Speaker 3: too quickly there and the seventh inning and the and
31:50
Speaker 3: the manager was not.
31:51
Speaker 1: Ready for it.
31:53
Speaker 2: And ultimately you do, in the biggest moment, biggest at
31:57
Speaker 2: bad of the season, you let your third best reliever
32:01
Speaker 2: pitch to a Mariner killer in that situation, And so
32:05
Speaker 2: I do believe that there's room for second guessing criticism
32:09
Speaker 2: in that situation. But you know, they had a game plan,
32:14
Speaker 2: they stuck with a game plan, and now we all
32:17
Speaker 2: have to live with it. Blue Jays end up winning
32:19
Speaker 2: it by final score of four to three, so they
32:21
Speaker 2: punched their ticket to the World Series.
32:24
Speaker 1: But that's it. Last Mariners Morning After.
32:26
Speaker 2: There's nothing to preview for tonight as the third leg
32:29
Speaker 2: of our segment that we've been doing all season long.
32:33
Speaker 2: And I suppose they'll still play the World Series, but
32:36
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I love be around to watch it
32:39
Speaker 2: all right, coming up next, we'll continue with the Mariners conversation.
32:44
Speaker 2: One guy I thought played a tremendous game last night,
32:49
Speaker 2: even though he didn't stack the stat sheets.
32:52
Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
33:12
Speaker 2: Headlines at seven plus you got Greg Bell at seven
33:15
Speaker 2: five to recamp last night Seahawks win over the Texans.
33:18
Speaker 2: We will talk more Seahawks with Hugh Millen today at
33:21
Speaker 2: nine o'clock. We'll have an hour long Monday morning quarterback session.
33:25
Speaker 2: Of course, so we are obsessed right now with talking
33:27
Speaker 2: Marinders baseball. The team eliminated from the playoff picture last
33:31
Speaker 2: night in crushing fashion. They came within three innings of
33:35
Speaker 2: making it to the World Series. But I tell you what,
33:38
Speaker 2: if anything, my love for Josh Naylor grew last night. Yes,
33:42
Speaker 2: I'm with everybody else that that's priority number one this
33:46
Speaker 2: offseason for the Mariners to bring that first baseman back.
33:50
Speaker 2: My goodness, Bucky, I've never seen this happen before. We
33:53
Speaker 2: were taught as old kids. Anybody that's ever played shortstop
33:57
Speaker 2: or second base at a level higher than Little League,
34:00
Speaker 2: you were always taught, Oh yeah, go ahead and throw
34:03
Speaker 2: it side arm it. You got to get that runner down.
34:05
Speaker 2: He'll go down. Don't worry. He doesn't want to get
34:07
Speaker 2: hit in the face unless your name is Josh Naylor.
34:11
Speaker 2: Josh Naylor decided I'm going to take one in the
34:14
Speaker 2: back of the skull if I have to, because they
34:18
Speaker 2: tell me I'm supposed to get down on this play
34:21
Speaker 2: not written anywhere that I got to slide here. So
34:23
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take one on the back of the
34:24
Speaker 2: skull here if I have to. That and just some
34:27
Speaker 2: clever defensive plays last night. He had an RBI single
34:31
Speaker 2: in the game last night. I was wanting him to
34:34
Speaker 2: get to the plate in the ninth because I was
34:36
Speaker 2: just sure he was going to come through for the
34:38
Speaker 2: team in the situation, and he ended up, you know,
34:42
Speaker 2: second in the hole that inning. But I mean, Josh
34:46
Speaker 2: Naylor did everything that you want a leader and a
34:49
Speaker 2: ballplayer to.
34:49
Speaker 1: Do in that situation.
34:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you nailed it with the ballplayer. I mean,
34:53
Speaker 3: that's what he is. He's a ballplayer. He goes out there,
34:55
Speaker 3: he understands. It doesn't mean he's going to be perfect,
34:58
Speaker 3: but more often than not, gonna get the proper approach.
35:02
Speaker 3: As much as people maybe get sick of hearing me
35:04
Speaker 3: say it, it's it's what makes you a good baseball
35:07
Speaker 3: player is having a good approach. You can have all
35:09
Speaker 3: the tools in the world, and he doesn't have all
35:11
Speaker 3: the tools in the world. He obviously has good eyes,
35:13
Speaker 3: good hands, good eye hand coordination, got a little bit
35:16
Speaker 3: of pop and and but how does a guy that
35:20
Speaker 3: is the second slowest guy in Major League Baseball still
35:22
Speaker 3: thirty bases because he has instincts, he has a feel
35:26
Speaker 3: for the game. He understands the game that I mean
35:29
Speaker 3: the rule you don't have to get down. You just
35:32
Speaker 3: when he jumps, then you're interfering with the throw. And
35:35
Speaker 3: so I wasn't thinking that it should have been called.
35:38
Speaker 3: And yet once you kind of think about the letter
35:40
Speaker 3: of the law, then yeah, that's that's interference, I guess.
35:43
Speaker 1: But it's one of those because I mean, you but
35:46
Speaker 1: you know what though, I mean, he was there, they
35:48
Speaker 1: were dead in the water.
35:48
Speaker 2: That was gonna be a double playball, and here's somebody
35:51
Speaker 2: that says, I'm not gonna get down.
35:53
Speaker 1: Just see what happens.
35:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what happens, you know, because there's not
35:57
Speaker 2: a rule that says you have to slide in that situation.
36:00
Speaker 2: But the umpires do have the right to gather together
36:03
Speaker 2: and try to determine whether or not you did intentionally
36:07
Speaker 2: try to interfere with the path of the ball, which
36:10
Speaker 2: he did, but he was just like, I don't care.
36:12
Speaker 2: I'll take one of the back of the skull just
36:14
Speaker 2: for the chance to break this thing up. I mean,
36:16
Speaker 2: who doesn't want that guy on your team?
36:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, if you don't, then I don't want you
36:19
Speaker 3: as a fellow fan of my team. That's the exact
36:22
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, if you're like, that's just reckless, that's
36:26
Speaker 3: a reckless play.
36:27
Speaker 1: But I don't like it at all, then beat it.
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Speaker 5: I think that's one of the things that made me sad.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I was just sad in general that it
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Speaker 5: was over. But I thought, oh, please, don't let this
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Speaker 5: be the last time we see Josh Naylor in a
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Speaker 5: Mariner's uniform.
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Speaker 2: And we'll see I mean, he does have the I mean,
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Speaker 2: you do work hard your entire life for this moment
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Speaker 2: to reach free agency, to have success at the major
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Speaker 2: league level, and to see what you're worth on the
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Speaker 2: open market. And maybe he'll take the highest bidder. And
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Speaker 2: if he does, it might not be the Mariners. They
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Speaker 2: haven't exactly shown the pension for, you know, bidding the highest.
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Speaker 1: But Bucky and I were talking about it last night.
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Speaker 1: I would have had a.
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Speaker 2: Five year, ninety million dollar contract sitting in his lap
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Speaker 2: on the plane ride home if I were the Mariners.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The more I thought about that, I don't think that'd
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Speaker 3: be enough. I think he wist certainly. I mean you'd
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Speaker 3: have to kind of blow his socks off if you're
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Speaker 3: going to try to get him. It might have to
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Speaker 3: be twenty five million a year. And for what it's worth,
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Speaker 3: there's the.
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Speaker 1: Market value, says fifteen a year. I was giving him nineteen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if somebody wants
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Speaker 3: to pay him over twenty or eighteen, just whatever it is.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's gonna test free agency. I have a
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Speaker 3: feeling because I don't see the Mariners coming out and
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Speaker 3: just given something that's above market value, above what they
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Speaker 3: think he's worth or what they're willing to pay. That's
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Speaker 3: maybe that might have been the reason why I woke
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Speaker 3: up even more sad than than I was last night,
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Speaker 3: was because it was to me, it's kind of setting in. Well, see,
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Speaker 3: I hope they do it, Stanton do it. That's a dude.
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Speaker 3: I mean I saw a picture you guys celebrating after
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Speaker 3: winning that game five against Detroit. I saw you guys,
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Speaker 3: and I think that they would like to I just
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Speaker 3: know that they don't end up kind of just pulling
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Speaker 3: out all the stops and making it happen. If you
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Speaker 3: think that's a guy a straw that stirs the drink,
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Speaker 3: and he most certainly is that.
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Speaker 2: Well a lot of time talking about here in the
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Speaker 2: coming months, But I would say he doesn't strike me
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Speaker 2: as the guy that's taking the highest bid. It strikes
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Speaker 2: me as the guy like I want to go where
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Speaker 2: I want to be and then hopefully they don't offer
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Speaker 2: me an insulting contract, right, and I think that that
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Speaker 2: could happen here in Seattle. So just don't insult him
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Speaker 2: with your offer. And I think that he'll be a
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Speaker 2: Mariner for the next five years.
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Speaker 5: That's what I think they about what you'd pay him,
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Speaker 5: and then add exactly your money we're gonna pay him
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Speaker 5: is probably gonna be insulting.
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Speaker 1: So just add five million. Yeah, So take the market
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Speaker 1: I did.
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Speaker 2: I took the market value, and then I gave him
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Speaker 2: three million more per year over the.
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Speaker 1: Course of five years.
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Speaker 2: And so that's I'm going to dangle that in front
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Speaker 2: of him and see if he bites all right, mind
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