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Chatting With Author J.S. Wood · Moms That Read

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the mom's very podcast, I'm McKinsey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm Kaylee, and we have a very special guest, Jess, and she is the author of the average gents series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to say a little bit about yourself and introduce yourself?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm right as jazz wood and I write contemporary romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My stick is to write nice guy romance, which puts them in a little bit of a better light.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as of, I think it's next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing this for eight years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been around for a minute, but yeah, and then I think we just published my
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you always wanted to be a writer?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, it's kind of like always been in the background, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like I've done like creative writing and I did like fan fiction and that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I like took a big break when I was a teen, you know, how you go from your team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't, that's not cool, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just got back into it like after I got pregnant with my first kid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, this is like kind of coming back to me now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just the urge came back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it took a few years from that point to like actually going, oh, I'm going to publish a book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like yeah, I'm actually going to do this for real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then haven't looked back since.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I shouldn't have been books.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you come up with all the the ideas for these different books?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they come at me rapid fire a lot of times and I'm like, oh, am I going to write all these stories?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like I have a backlog of, you know, stories I want to write right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I'm going to have the time to write this one and this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I'll start one and it'll be like, oh, it's just gonna be a standalone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's just one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll just like let it do its thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's that pesky little side character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, and I think you know, and then you go and it's just like branches off into this whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Interconnected series are my favorite because I love like revisiting the old characters and then like oh my I want to see how this ends for for this person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I'm kind of annoyed though like I didn't find you until like I read the sixth book and I was like okay I would have liked to know and I'll I can go back now, but I was like okay I just took all the little friend groups now and I was like that makes sense
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[SPEAKER_00]: I only fun to see everybody's like, oh, this is a six book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people are starting to like find me and I'm like, oh, yeah, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're always trying to get it out there earlier, but, you know, yeah, but it's fun to watch people are like, oh, I love, you know, let me go back and read it all and that's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're talking to someone who has never read one of your books, where do you recommend that they start?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would probably start with the first in this series, which is off the grid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a light fun read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be for an average reader, I think it'd feel like a quick read.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not like, there's not too much depth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like trauma or anything in that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like very like, okay, they meet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They fall in love, they have their issues, and then they like, you kind of figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that one's really fun, because it's single mom, and she has like an eight-year-old, and I loved doing that, because at the time, I wrote it, I had an eight-year-old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I like stole my daughter's jokes and put them in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was funny.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm making her say that like, that's hilarious.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, it's a good introduction to my writing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in like the style I write in and then people just kind of like ease themselves into like the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I currently have an eight year old, so I have to read that there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we probably should have done this earlier.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We like to do all of our podcasts with our recent reads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what was like the most recent five-star read that you have read?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to think of the title, but it's a book by Lulu Moore, and she did, like, these, it's a family that's in the English countryside, and they're, like, Duke's and words and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, like, the sweetest, but it's, like, spicy romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, like, a fake marriage one was the last one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, here were the title for some reason.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, like, I think it's called Foxy Park, but I'm not totally positive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one was, it was just so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the push and pull of the cut of each other, but they don't really hate each other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything fake dating or fake marriage or anything like that, and I'm sad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They made it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have time to read when you're writing or do you feel like you're clearing sparse?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty sparse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I try really hard, because I like to stay in that world and it's really good for your brain to keep reading.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So writer, because you'd like to see the new styles
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're actively writing a book, my brain goes, don't read, because you could be writing, you know, your own thing, which is not like a burden necessarily, I'm not saying that like, oh, I should be writing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's more like, I want to be writing right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I sit down right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mom, mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I literally have a happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So who is your favorite authors or some authors that have inspired you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, one of my favorites is an author called Ella Mays, who's not super well known, but her books are like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like reading a cozy 90s rom-com.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that one is love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you would have read something like, you've got mail or something like, I love our right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she takes her time writing each story really, really well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think the one she's been working on has been like two years, which is not the average for a romance writer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love how she does that and allows herself that time to grow in that book.
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[SPEAKER_01]: because they turn out so amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She has a way of writing that's just really, really like grips to you and you're like there in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, she's probably my favorite author.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Inspiring me, I like the Nora Roberts occasionally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I'm, I'm such an off the wall person like I'll just pick up something random and be like, I was so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just like good or yeah, yes, I don't have like anybody specific, I guess, but I mean, necessarily, but some writing is just, you know, good enough that I'm just like, oh, that's just like, main, you feel good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So why did you choose to build a series around average guys and what does an average agent mean to you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this came to me in the height of, in no shame at all, because I liked these two, but billionaire romance was the biggest thing and it was these guys who had everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just wanted the girl or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love those books, but I was like, this was a bit on its head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make them someone who's broke someone who's just trying to get by in life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I think the third book is like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: like he's struggling really hard, can't get a job, all that so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that was really fun because that's very real.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In our world like it's, most people are struggling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not billionaires.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're just trying to like...
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[SPEAKER_00]: make life good, you know, in the parts we can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like the idea of finding the happiness in the average instead of it being like, oh, if if only a billionaire would come in and solve all my more realistic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more, more real and just kind of, yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the average of jense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I wanted to write books that I'd be cool with my daughter reading when she's a teenager.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you know, like, I, there's a lot of books where it's like, oh, like, you might think that's okay, but that's not okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, so, all right, like, I was like, I want to be able to be with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I want green flags for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, all red flags.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I wanted to be okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're cool to start reading this when you're like 17, you know, like, I feel comfortable with you reading this kind of relationship and seeing how that falls out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Please out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's probably where that really stem from with like the whole nice guy romance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we need good guys like we need good guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love a realistic guy romance, I think we're talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's all these, like, shouted at ease and all these billionaires.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of that is, you know, they're great, but like, it's nice to read someone like the man I married.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's always fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where did the idea for all this time come from?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, was there a specific moment or character that sparked that story?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so this is really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The original storyline I had for Garrett's character was so different from when we ended up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was going to have a second chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with a new zanker that used to be like his wife.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was the one who was great, which I still think someone might need that story somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, oh, that's so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as the series was written, and he was kind of that background character, I was like, that's not what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It actually took me two years to get his done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's like, there's no way that I can just like spit all of this out because he had a lot of background stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how proud it's stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, that's big, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Molly was not originally his love interest obviously, but she wasn't even supposed to be a main character in this series until she made a pair of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But two, and then she never left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, okay, you're in this now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they started doing their little bantering in the background and I'm like, oh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is something here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know what themselves they were like no we're having a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah my friend pointed out she's like so they're gonna and I was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they were gonna, okay, that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really was, it took a while for me to get that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, that's what I've been working towards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole time is those who are gonna have a relationship.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it definitely, there was any one moment where I was particularly like, oh, this is, you know, wherever we're leading up to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was doing it totally unintentionally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's terrifying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, his story, I kind of hint at his issues throughout the books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew that part was always going to be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just, I never knew who he was going to end up with until I got to probably the fifth book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, okay, so now that I know that this is going to happen, I need to start adding that in, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So was this book apart?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like whenever you set out to write that Regents with like the whole series was this book since you kind of like didn't think about Garrett and Molly like was this book originally part of like what you wanted to do with it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah well his story was always going to be written for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just didn't know who he was going to end up with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like oh I'm gonna write this series and actually funny enough was going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last five books of the series, we're going to be the only five, and then I added in the first one before because I just like came up with this idea and I'm like, oh, he's going to be a part of this, you know, and then that's why he never like lived in the city, but he's one of the friends, it's like, oh, he's to in town right now, you know, and then, but yeah, I knew Garrett was going to be part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had no idea what his start was going to be and that happens to me a lot all stars series and they'll be like, I know they're going to have something that I just don't know what they're going to have right, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So once you're hardest character to write that of all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he took his time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to be book five and then I had to switch him and the other guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm not ready.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not ready.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to put off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So which was your favorite right out of all of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's so hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're all fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were all a lot of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's was probably my most challenging, which might have been the most fun, because I really had to do on how to lay out his story and make it not so traumatic that people are like, oh my gosh, this is like, I can't do this, you know, but make it enough that it's like, oh, okay, so that's kind of why he was
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[SPEAKER_00]: So his was really fun to write and like I said it was challenging, but I think that was why it was more fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so with that kind of along the same lines of which are favorite trope to write.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I want to say enemy slummers, but friends slummers just like gets me every time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a woman that you will like never write?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't really thought about too much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty much open to anything as long as it's not incessed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's about as far as I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's nothing weird going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I'm so thankful for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thank you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just doing you, Sarah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just doing the Lord's art, yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, she's so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, so do you have a favorite average gent that you have to choose one, which one would you choose?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably choose Graham, which is the first book.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The one you were even in a right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've heard that there's a lot of my husband's manualism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he kind of has a special place in my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so kind of going off of like your readers and your audience, was there a character that surprised you that people kind of latched on to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, like it's kind of funny to see the feedback for Garrett actually because everyone says the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated him, I hated him and then I loved him so much that that seems to be everybody's favorite right now because he's well, he's new too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, I really didn't like him at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it took a minute and then like there's a switch and they're like, but then he turned out so great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, everybody loves Derek, who's book five guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, he is the ultimate golden retriever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll do anything for anyone, make anybody happy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is just how he got the vibe from the book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's he's a favorite for a lot of people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just like that ultimate nice guy like You know, you'd want to be his best friend if you were not romantically like interested.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you want to be his right So I think he's the favorite too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would I guess something's wrong with me because I like care for the beginning Yeah, I love me a booty guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, he's being mean to her for a reason, it's fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, you know that's what was coming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, we love you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We love how to, he was just like super grumpy, but like a cinnamon roll on the inside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to say they're all trust cinnamon rollers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have, they have layers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they have layers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So talking about writing and reading, what is your favorite romance to write?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Versus like your favorite romance to read?
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[SPEAKER_02]: like you mean like tropes or just yeah or like contemporary romcoms or just like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I love a group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You show sunshine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did like the reverse of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The black cat a while ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it was really fun because she's in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's me a lot of times like I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like, my husband's like the yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my husband's the girl who cheered her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm like, I'm kind of, so that was fun to do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say that's probably one of my favorites to write is when.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The woman's like, I'm going to be your, yeah, you know, and he's like, oh, you're fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be best friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's very realistic for I think both of them would be married, just a lot of things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are black hats all the way through.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I said, well, I take, if we do signings, I take my husband, because I'm like, you have to come.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you have to talk to all these people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I take my husband and he literally fastened out our cards, and we're like, hey, that's my husband too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he doesn't he's never read any of my books because he's just not a reader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you should try this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you should try it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Neither one of our husband's have read anything since high school, but like, at the book events and stuff, they're like, oh, you should listen to this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you should listen to this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You love books.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we need them more, though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are personalities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what I call him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's my personality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you wrote a ton.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is your favorite part of the writing process like when you get into a series?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, first the first like 25% that's my favorite because that is where we like build on Yeah, yeah, and like tell people what's gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I get to the middle and I'm like, Oh, we need to reevaluate like figure out how we're gonna end this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the first 25% is so much fun because it's a fresh idea.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's like it's just like starting a new book like really you're like, Oh, it's fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a new fresh book like a new story new characters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's absolutely my favorite part like by far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you a planner or are you like I'm like I'm writing sitting down and it just like came to me it really depends I get yelled at by friends because I'm like oh I started a book and I'm trying to get in and they're like and did you plot it and I'm like yeah well No, kind of It's actually what I want to do does that count.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know Um, so a lot of times I'm right like the first thing they did
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I will like go back in and like figure out those second half.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like yeah, I both I guess Yeah, yeah, okay, so if you could go back and experience any of your books for the first time as a reader Which one would you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good question um I might go back and do
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[SPEAKER_00]: My book called The Coach.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, this is a hockey romance that I'm a hockey romance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the coach and she is his player's sister.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and if it's it's an age gap, but she's like 23 and he's like very nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like, okay, you know, it's not all the age gap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That one is super fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: ran the link with the idea and take talk one time like five years ago or something and I was like oh my gosh you need to write it and I was like okay I'm not going to kill off any parents I'm not going to make it dramatic I'm not going to get toxic I'm just going to be really fun and nice and like the most part the most drama will come from like
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[SPEAKER_00]: her brother doesn't know and like he finds out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like drama.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that one is fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was double in my spicy music, but it's just like the trope called for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like yeah, one night stands start and then he sees her in the stands wearing a jersey of one of his players and he's like, what the heck is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was a fun book to write for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here for hockey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so here for hockey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like hockey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we're going to do a little bit of this or that like rapid fire um okay and you could You could answer these as a writer or a reader so I guess whichever one your rabbit one more Okay, so it cowboys or billionaires cowboys You know, yes He falls first or she falls first He falls first for sure all in okay second chance or enemies to lovers enemy slowers every time Okay small town or big city small town
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[SPEAKER_02]: protective or possessive, protective, golden retriever or grumpy?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That one's hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why, too?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably golden retriever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, single data, single mom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Single dad's fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I think fake dating, I like fake dating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, any of your characters that you'd actually marry?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, all of them probably.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of that one in the button.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, character your most protective of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, probably Derek, and then you haven't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just a sweet, you know, like a heart like me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they've got things about him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, most underrated character.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, um, that's a good question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably archer from making the cut, which is the third book of this series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK, he's definitely underrated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Derek.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to go back a book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to read Derek's story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a single mom one, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sat for a single parent trip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anytime.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is her favorite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so before we kind of wrap up, what is next for you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw that you have started this new series on the fence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On the fence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you give us a little bit about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this is technically the third time I've published this, we've had some ups and downs with this, okay, this series, but this one is gonna be it, I hope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, but yeah, this I wrote it a while ago, it's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like yellowstone vibes, so there's a little suspense in each of the books What's fun about it is like I grew up training horses like that was My dad still does it and so I got to add like artists put into that so I have I have the knowledge of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like okay, I might write it and it's not going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, probably anything anyone's ever read because it's not like the most popular discipline in the cowboy romance world, but it was fun to write.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a second chance of romance for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's very like apprehensive, but she needs to help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a bartender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's her first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So she has to come and get help from him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and it's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has, you know, anxiety.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's anxiety rep and they both are trying to figure out, like, could this actually come back to being, what it was before, because they're trying to speak hearts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, she's trying to decide if she can trust him and he's like, oh, this is my second chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm gonna take this chance I've got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really excited about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and we got the new gorgeous covers that I'm obsessed with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really pretty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when everyone comes out, this one comes out September 4th, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's kind of like every couple months the next four books after that come out pretty quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So no, it's the whole series something that you was the whole series what you've already written and it's being republished, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we I was with the publisher and it didn't work out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we separate went separate ways and now I'm doing it on my own.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've heard how much that's better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, you had to do what you want for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm really excited about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the new direction of the colors and everything you ever love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's going to be really fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love Cowboys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, how do I?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you for coming on today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for having me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we'll have to get you back on after your Cowboys series.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you haven't checked out all this time yet, it yes it is number six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is your average dish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You will not regret it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you guys in the next video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.