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AEW Headlines and Dynamite Preview — November 7, 2023 · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday, and you know what that means. It's time for another edition
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of Ignition. I'm your co host Kelson, and I'm your other co host
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Andre. Tonight, we have quite a group here. We have some panel
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members that we haven't heard from today. We have the King of Television,
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Sea Boss. Hello. We have a very nice, very evil Rawlins.
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Revolution will be televised. Indeed, we have the timeless Hockey Hello. And
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mister Mayhem Wolf. Hello, this is war. That sounded so intimidating.
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Wolf, really wave the white flag right now. Well, tonight, we
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have a couple of juicy topics and first we're gonna start with none other than
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the nature Boy himself, Rick Flair. Now, a couple of weeks ago,
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he made his debut as a surprise for Sting, which I think we
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kind of had a positive outlook on that. We had a positive a lot
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of positive things to say about it. In his promo, he mentioned that
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he is going to write it out till the end of Sting's career. But
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then a few days later we actually found out that he signed a two year
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contract with aw which means he's going to stay way after Sting's retirement. So
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my question to you guys is what do you think Ric Flair is going to
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do in AW? Do you think he will wrestle hopefully not? Do you
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think he will manage somebody? What is the future for Rick Flair in AAW?
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See Boss, so Rick Flair signs a two year deal with a W
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I think it's a great idea. I think he can take what you know,
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his experience as both a wrestler and as a backstage influence and bring AW
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and their talent to new heights. I believe that what he can do for
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this company will change it for the better. Okay, yeah, have any
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think that adds on that? Rollins? Hey, honestly don't know what he's
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going to do once Sting retires, because that was the whole point of bringing
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him in. I think he'll factor into the trios match at full gear in
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some way, but beyond that, I don't really know what he adds a
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But we can talk about this a little bit later. But Sea Boss,
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I know you've mentioned the idea of maybe this brings Charlotte Flair into AW.
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I don't think that's necessarily going to happen. I know you've mentioned that,
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but anyway, Aki, do you have any thoughts on Rick Flair coming into
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AW. I don't care. That's hockey real quick, then, I think
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I'm I'm indifferent. I'm not very excited. I'm not very upset. I'm
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just more confused than anything after the Sting retirement. I'm guessing that correct me
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if I'm wrong. Is Arn't Anderson still with AW? Yes? Yes,
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So I suppose you can do something with them, right, You could either
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return the four Horsemen or or run an angle between the two of them.
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I'm guessing that's probably what they're going to do, because what else are you
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going to use Ric Flair? I mean, how else are you gonna use
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Rickclair. I appreciate Sea Wells, I appreciate what you're saying. I just
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don't think that it's like relevant anymore. I don't think Ric Flair is relevant
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enough to really bring eyes and better the better the product or the company.
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And that's just my personal opinion. So I'll kick it over to Kelson.
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Yeah, well, you know, here's the thing with Rick Flair. A
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lot of people that have been watching Rick Flair Ric Flair for years, and
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we have airback in here in air what we're talking about and I'll throw it
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to you right after I'm done here. What we're talking about is what are
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the plans, what what could possibly be the plans for Rick Flair after Staying
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retires because Ric Flair, aside to you deal and Sting is retiring in just
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a matter of months, and I was going to express something. One thing
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I do want to say is that part of Rick Flair's deals with the energy
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drink, the Wu Energy Drink, and I finally know how to spell WU
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because of the Wo. There are five ooh's or oh's in WU. I
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think that's important. So all you grammar nazis out there, whenever you see
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WU written on Reddit or Discord or Twitter or whatever, you could say,
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you spelled their wrongers five oohs. Anyway, Wolf, you took the words
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right out of my mouth. Once thing retires, I really do think that
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they may do something between Rick Flair and arn Anderson. And Rick Flair at
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an interview already said that he wants to work with Andrade, who is his
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son in law married to Charlotte or Ashley, and uh, maybe we will
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see a rebuilding of the Four Horsemen. Keep in mind, however, that
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Rick Flair doesn't decide that arn Anderson decides that arn Anderson owns the trademark for
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the four horson for horsemen air. Uh, what do you think? And
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you're muted, buddy, so I'm mute yourself, And what do you think?
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What are the plans? What do you think our plans are for Rick
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Flair? I think whatever the plants may have been, they might set of
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things now. I seeing all the lashback for the signing this past week,
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I think over many people have notice to it. Do you know rickclaire historic
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past, and even if we put the past aside, we put all those
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allegations aside. One of the big issues with Ric Flair is that the age
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is your whole roster. There's already a lot of concerns that I'm having Edge
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Christian Staying, Rick Blair, Paul White, guys like these, You're already
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taking away time TV time, valuable TV time from people that are much younger
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and deserve I was like Garcia, guys like Wheeler, you do, people
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who pick Sta Hobbes. There's many that we can name that you run down
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THET A W roster, and there's plenty of people that don't get TV time.
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So each week to Clare giving them a lot of because sure as hell,
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camp Pump. I don't know if people saw like at mc bricks they
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retirement match. No, yeah, yeah, I agree with what you're saying.
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I don't think he's I hope to whoever you want to pray to that
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he does not wrestle. H he can get slapped by somebody, he can
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low blow somebody. That's as much action as I want out of him.
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I don't want to see him wrestle at all. And sorry, ahead,
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don't go, don't go ahead, Eric, what did you say. I
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didn't hear what you said. I would say, like, even in terms
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of his promos like both passionate, energetic, most usually associated with there,
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I don't think he has that voice or he doesn't have that cadence. He
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can't local himself, and that's any matter. Even if you hear him in
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interviews elsewhere, it's just not the same. No, I agree with you.
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But one of the things that he may be able to do, if
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he can get a little bit a little bit of that magic back, is
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to elevate somebody else in the ring with his promo work, and something that
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was alluded to earlier, he could help people with their promo work in the
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back without ever being on TV. I think he could be an asset.
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But we're going to move on now because we've got a lot to talk about.
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I want to go to this aw pole that aw Phanhob did a poll
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starting on Reddit. What the poll was about is we asked our members to
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name which of the aew women who have yet to win a title belt.
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That does not mean Battle Royals, and it does not mean the owen Hart
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who have not won a tie a belt, who do you think will be
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the first to win. So we did this poll on Reddit and we got
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the initial votes and it was clear right from the get go that four women
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were singled out over all the others that had never won a belt before.
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So we expanded the poll, put it on Twitter X, we put it
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on blue Sky, we put it on YouTube, we put it on Discord,
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We've put it everywhere and it got hundreds hundreds of votes, really impressive,
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and there was a clear winner and it was a clear surprise at the
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bottom. And I want to discuss the the results of this poll, and
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I want to see if the panel agrees with it or disagrees with it.
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If you were surprised or if you weren't surprised, And if they're one of
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these four women is not on your personal list, you don't share who you
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think might be the next to get a belt in AW. I mean,
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you're talking only about the AWTBS Championship. In the AW Women's World Championship,
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there's not a lot to go by right now. So at number four with
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the least amount of votes, and this is the one that surprised me,
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was Willow Nightingale at number three with far more votes than Willow Nightingale, and
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Willow Nightingale was by far the least, but the other these next two were
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very close. Number three was sky Blue. Number two very close with sky
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Blue was Ruby Soho. And just for those of you who hadn't heard our
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podcast before, and I pointed this out last week, Ruby Soho has never
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won a title belt at either WWE or AW and she's kind of a big
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deal. That's kind of surprising. Number one, by a very large margin,
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was Julia Hart. So the question is do you agree with the votes
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of the community and or do you have somebody else that you think should have
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been put in there for consideration? Sea Boss what do you think. I'm
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genuinely I'm not surprised Julia Hart's number one. She's pretty popular. I honestly
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thought sky Blue would be over Ruby Soho. And I'm surprised, well,
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the Nightingale got the least. She's I guess she's not as popular as the
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other three. I want to let me break in there, se. I
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don't think it really has to do with popularity. I think it has to
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do with, uh, just the way that they're booked. I mean,
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Ruby Soho was very close to sky Blue. It was flipping back and forth
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like crazy. You could, honestly he could put Ruby Soho in third,
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because it may have changed by now because the poll is still going on.
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But I think that it's not that I think people actually looked at this intelligently.
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He could have looked at it intelligently and no c boss. Ruby Soho
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never won a title in WWE. It might have been a Mandela I swear
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she had. You would swear that she did. I absolutely, I have
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to look it up because the Riot Squad was booked well, they weren't booked
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very good in WWE. But I swear at some point her and Live or
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her and Sarah Logan won the tag Belts. I I guess not. But
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is there anybody else on the w W E W A fuck? Listen to
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me, boss that you think should should have been considered? We originally just
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saw. I let you know, we did have Kier Hogan on the list
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and Anna j and they just no, uh do r O H belts count?
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No? A W belts? That is actually my number one? Is
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yeah? I agree, nobody. Let's say Athena's number one, then Julia,
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then Willow, then Sky that's my that that's my four. I'm looking
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to win a title now or should have won a title yet? Who's but
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who's next? To win? The next? After that? No? Who's
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next? Like right down if somebody was going to win a title, who's
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gonna win a title right now? At AW title? Do you think if
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Tina's gonna win an AW title even though she doesn't wrestle in AW at all?
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I'd actually say, if it's right now, that's what it is.
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Who's next? Who is next? Okay? What are you thinking? Really?
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Not surprised that Willem Nightingale was so far off the list or a distant
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number four? I should say her character I feel like just there's nothing special
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about it. It feels like Bailey's original character when she came into WWE and
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she had her whole I'm a hugger and she had those like floating our things
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and it worked for a while, but then the fans are just like,
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yeah, we don't care. So that's not surprising at all. The most
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surprising is Ruby. Soho, why is she on the list? I'm sorry,
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but she has gotten absolutely buried since coming to AW so the fact that
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she was the second on this list was really shocking to me. I would
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say sky Blue is the clear number two behind, of course, Julia Hart.
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I'm really interested to see what Skyblue is gonna do right now. It
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seems like she might be teasing a bit of a heel turn. Yeah so
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ACKI let's get your take on this. So the last person was Willow,
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then it was Ruby, then it was Sky and Ruby. They interchanged,
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they flipped, lopped back and forth, and that was Julia is number one.
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I mean, yeah, fair enough, but that's a pretty good list.
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I mean, I want Julia to be the like I wanted. I
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want Julia to be a champion. I just would in my opinion, I
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would switch Willow with Ruby. Soho, because Willow to me is like I
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like Willow more than Ruby. Yeah, that's just my opinion. So let's
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go to Wolf and then Wolf, uh will go to Air all Air.
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After Air, we'll go to Andre. Sounds good, all right? So
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the poll is mine. I don't disagree with the with the results. And
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just keep in mind, I think when you posted that poll, wasn't Ruby
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supposed to be? Ruby was having the match with Shida, so it was
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relevant, right, So I think those who voted for Ruby, you know,
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voted smart. As far as any other omissions from the list, I
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guess you can consider the Bunny and Penelope Ford, but not in a realistic
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sense. I would just like to see those two get pushed because they're Day
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one people. But I honestly, it's got to come down to Julia.
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She needs to have a rematch with with stat Lander. Was this? Yeah,
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she needs to have a rematch with Statlander, and then when win the
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title, she needs to do it. So Air, do you what do
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you have on this? Do you have anything to add? Yeah, I'll
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throw a different name out, But so it's oh and seven In Championship Madden
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A totally. So I don't. Yes, every time you feel like she's
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gonna win something, whether it was the Owen, whether it was the TV
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type title anything, it just doesn't happen. And she's always been using these
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positions to be like the fall girl. Twice now, I think she's been
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in trouble threat matches. The was with like Revolution I think when it was
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the rare uh and Ruby in the match, and then again recently H So
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she's always been the she's somebody with the crowd loves, they gets behind for
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whatever reason. We in w W, there's a w just don't see her
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as that championship material person even though she's she's pretty young, she's good with
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character wise, she's good on the mic, much better than many women on
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the roster. They don't see that in her. But a different nick will
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throw out that I think I could and should we title's Serena Deeb. It's
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for me the ring work. Yeah, we've we We've talked that length air
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about Serena Deeb. Where is she Just like I think, yeah, where
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and the last time I definitely agree with you with Serita D. But she's
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been gone so long nobody even mentioned her. The last time I saw her
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was the was the match with uh thunder Rosa at Double or Nothing last year
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in the title match, and then kind I think she had like one more
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appearance on a darker elevation and then it's just radio silence. I honestly injured.
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Like all of the Reforce I've seen from like Sean Sap, there's she's
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healthy, she spent. They just don't have anything for her. But because
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you know, I think giving it to her. So like do you remember
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like a professor of five minute challenges? Those were great? Yeah? You
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remember those? Yeah, that'd be cool. What about Red Velvet though,
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she's coming back to Dynamite this week. If they can build her upright,
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he could make for a good TBS champion. No, you're not going.
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I mean if you go up and down the women's roster, can't argue with
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anybody, really, I mean, everybody are professionals, they're good. My
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take on this. First of all, I want to shout out our regular
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panel member Shane who's not here with us tonight, because he is a big
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supporter of Will and nutting Gale, and I feel like he would not be
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happy with it. His Paul because she's so low on the table. But
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in my opinion, I think I personally think that Julia Hard is the clear
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winner between these women that should be the next champion, either TBS or Women's
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Champion. And I think what separates Julia from the other three is that she
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doesn't have that outcasts thank on her because Willow, Willow Ruby is part of
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the outcast. Willow and Skyblue have been losing to the outcast for what feels
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like the past year. I know it's not been that long, but it
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feels like it's been their entire careers, and I think it's just it's hard
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to take people seriously who are always losing, especially big matches. And yes,
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Julia Heart lost to Chris at Wrestle Dream, but I was there.
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I don't know how it looked on TV, but there was a lot of
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support for Julia from the crowd. And if she would have won that the
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championship that night, I don't think many people would complain. So I think
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Julia is already a made woman. She just needs the official stamp of a
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championship. Uh So, Yeah, I think she's right there, and I
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think tomorrow she's gonna h she wrestles Velvet what was her name, Red Velvet.
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And by the way, it is Julia Hart's birthday tomorrow as well,
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so it would be kind of rough to Julia Hart lose the Red Velvet on
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her birthday, right, Yes, I think that is going to continue for
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Julia, and I actually, if I have to place bets, I would
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think that within the next couple of months, I think she will beat Chris
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for the championship. I think I actually have to disagree with you on that
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one, Andre. And here's why. If you've been paying attention to the
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story recently, with specifically sky Blue, she's been teasing a bit of a
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heel turn. So what if you have sky Blue turned heel and then she's
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the one that takes the title off of Scotlander. Do you think that could
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work? I think in the as far as pushes go, I think Julia
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has been pushed a lot higher than sky Blue. Uh. If you go
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with your theory, I think that Julia can beat Chris for the championship,
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but then sky Blue will get built up while Julia is defending her championship and
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eventually sky Blue can beat Julia for it, especially since last week. Uh,
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sky Blue did spray Julia in the face, so they kind of have
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a little rivalry starting up. Yeah, exactly Collage Sky Blue kind of.
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But the BacT on that she it seems like there's some tension between her and
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Willow Nightingale. For me, right, go ahead, Aeron, what did
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you have to say? I was gonna say, Oh, here's another name,
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Billy Starks. So a lot of people are watching wait but for mimoney
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and the whole I t one of the best in the A universe. Everybody's
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position. Think Billy starts to be the on that turns on and beats Atina
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for the RWITCH Women's champ and ship. But let's say she doesn't. They
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stay a pair and then Big Start debuts on a w official as an elite
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wrestler, and she's the one to take it to your title and you have
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like this power couple here as your next up. She's a team, so
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like there's for the women's divisions. Yeah, well, only the only problem
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with with with what you're saying, Air is that when you only have one
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woman's match on TV every every show, you don't give a lot of time
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for exposition, which brings me for a secondary question. Do you think we
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already know that we're gonna get Timeless Tony Storm against Karashida at full gear?
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Do you think is it possible and I know this is gonna be ay out
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there, is it possible that we may see two women title defenses? Do
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you think Chris Statlander is gonna defend at full gear? Possible? Yes,
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anything is possible, but likely I do I don't think it's likely. You
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have to put the match together in like what two weeks. I think they
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can do it, but we've never had a I don't think we've ever had
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a show with two women's matches before I'm gonna I'm gonna show. Let me
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throw before you say anything seem possible to throw another scenario out here. We
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know that Tony Kahan loves to do multi women matches. So what do you
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think if they do have Statlander defend? Do you just say, let's just
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assume that Statlander is gonna defend? What do you think about Statlander versus Willow
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Nightingale, Sky Blue and Julia Hart, who've been working a program for weeks
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basically together. I had idea, Okay, I was gonna say several pay
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per views within the past couple of years have had women two women's title matches
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double or nothing. Last year had thunder Roses versus Serena Deep and Anna was
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it Anna j or Tight? Well, no, it was Anna j versus
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Jade Cargill all out. Last year had the women's four way for the interim
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championship and Athena versus Jade Cargill. Full gear had Tony Storm versus Jamie Hayter
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and oh what's her name? Nyla Rose versus Jade Cargill Jade. When Jade
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Cargill was TBS champion, she was on like every pay per view for the
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last one. Yeah, she was totally. The other thing with Jay Cargill
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is that she was booked for a lot of those matches on pay per views,
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literally on rampage three days before build. The only one that had any
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build. The only two that had any build up were Nyla because Nyla stole
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the TVs title and Athena because they had that build started at double or nothing.
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Right, I think that a half baked build for ty Val Korea British
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Beer as well. True, True, I don't remember that at all.
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I I don't remember she faced Marina shafear. I don't. I don't think
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that was a p per viewer. I think that Yeah, that sounds like
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a Dynamite match. Well, speaking of Dynamite, we have a big Dynamite
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tomorrow. It's in Portland, Oregon, and honestly, I thought it was
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going to be just a filler show because, uh, Pacific Northwest is not
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really known as like a big wrestling market. But Tony Kahan is going crazy
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with his car. It's one of the best Dynamite cars that I can think
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of in recent memory, and I think that's saying a lot. Kelson and
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I were talking about which two matches we should focus on, and I think
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the obvious one is the Big Boy match between Keith Lee and Samoa Joe.
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Uh. Do you guys think Samoa Joe is finally going to lose the TV
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title or do you think he keeps it and continues his momentum towards challenging MJF
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in the future. See boss, what's your take? I'm so excited for
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this match? Rollins. Uh just want to say something right now. I'm
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coming over tomorrow and we're gonna watch that Dynamite. But yes, this is
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the match. I am the most hyped for. When it comes to tomorrow's
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Dynamite, I want I've been wanting to see Samoa Joe and Keithley. They
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cross paths all. I think they crossed passing the NXT but never had a
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match. They crossed passing the main roster ww never had a match. Now
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we're finally getting the match, and it is meat on meat all day.
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I'm excited for it. Does Keith Lee win, Probably not, But if
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he does, strap that rocket ship to the back of him, push him
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to the moon. I think. I think if anyone gets it done,
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it's gonna be Keith Rollins. You got thoughts well, First of all,
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thanks for playing me on the spot there seaboll okay, But in terms of
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this match, there hasn't been enough build to make me believe that Samoa Joe
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is going to lose the championship, Like there needs to be more of a
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right, So that's a good point. There's no story here. There's It's
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not like Keith Lee's been calling out Samoa Joe for weeks or whatever. It's
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just hey, geese title shot, Okay, let's do it. So no,
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I think there's no way Samoa Joe is losing his championship. Maybe Shane
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Taylor comes out and costs uh Keith Lee the match, because I know Keith
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Lee and Shane Taylor have been going back and forth on backstage promos and whatnot,
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and that I guess that's a feud. They do have a lot of
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history. M HM hockey. What do you think about this upcoming TV Championship
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match? It should be fun because I like the two of the I like
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two of the wrestlers, but I don't I mean, I don't think he's
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gonna win the champ but if he does win the champion, that would be
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pretty cool. I agree. I think if that matches anything like that Hobbes
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and Mural match, I think it's gonna be amazing. Yeah, I agree
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with you guys. I think sorry, I mean to just jump in.
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It's go ahead. So yeah, I'm I'm hoping that Keith Lee wins.
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I think this could be a start of something good. If he was to
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win the r O H TV title, I think, you know, he's
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deserving of it. I think he's done enough for the company where he should
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be rewarded. But honestly, the match itself is probably just gonna speak for
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itself. It's gonna be good, it's gonna be hard news, it's gonna
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be a lot of fun, and I'm not expecting anything less air. Do
31:45
you have anything that you want to add to that? I suppose my art
31:52
said yes, wins along with Julia Hardy's birthday tomorrow. That's right, yes
32:00
to say, though I have not I haven't heard of Lee, but my
32:06
mind says no, he's been cho long. Final battle is around the corner
32:12
in a month's time. I think some joke, uh s if he's serious
32:17
about contending for the championship with him Jef, he's got he's got to get
32:22
that big w But I I did like the part about the Shane Taylor stuff.
32:27
I think that's where Keepeple get caught in the match and that'll set up
32:30
uh my match. Then we'll have a final battle. Yeah. You know,
32:37
here's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping that Keith Lee does win this and
32:44
by doing so, he could go to r o H and actually defend the
32:50
title on Ring of Honor television because it's been five months. Since over five
32:57
months now, I believe since Somemo Joe has defended the Ring of Honor television
33:01
title on Ring of Honor Auto Club TV, So it kind of doesn't make
33:07
any sense. Frankly, SOMEO Joe is better used in AW than an r
33:13
OH to begin with. He's gotten the record, there's nothing left for him
33:16
to prove. So let's get somebody else in there. And even if you
33:21
want to have Keith Lee even come and defend on defend the r o H
33:28
title, should he win it on a WTV. Who's the perfect person to
33:32
go against Keith Lee than anybody else at AW for the r o H TV
33:38
title other than somebody that we've been begging, begging for them to do some
33:44
kind of something, right, Rollins Swerve Strickland whose house. I'm sorry,
33:52
but that ship has sailed sale, But it has, And you're right,
33:59
you said that a few weeks ago. You know that the ship is sailed,
34:02
but it doesn't mean that it can't come back to DOC. It's long
34:09
out to see l the planet. The planet is a sphere, so it's
34:19
gonna come back eventually. It got lost in andre it got I think I
34:28
think the ship might have sung and I might have hit an iceberg or something.
34:30
Yeah, so we're gonna go like the Stubber eight. We're gonna move
34:37
on to the decks, but then we're gonna do something we don't normally do
34:39
on on ignition, but we're gonna go ahead and do a pot pourri after
34:43
this. Next segment is a segment for those of you who have never done
34:46
it before, where you could basically talk about anything in a w something that
34:51
covered another point. I'm sorry before moving on one point about Ley, sure
35:02
if I just looked it up. Keith has had only eleven singles matches in
35:07
a WOW. His last two words watching matches on clusion. Last seviously that
35:15
he had was against christ Jericho in April on Dynamite fourteen minutes, and so
35:22
like, yeah, he's like wrestle collectively our maybe in the eleven matches,
35:30
Oh yeah, yeah, rough going but yeah rough Yeah. A lot of
35:39
the longest matches he's had were probably when he was uh tag team champion with
35:45
swerves. Yeah yeah. So let's move on because Mark Briscoe had stated pretty
35:52
emphatically last week that you had no respect for Jay White because Jay White has
35:58
is carrying around the belt that he didn't win. And I have a question
36:02
for run off the bat am. I I'm pretty sure didn't. It was
36:10
going to be MGF against the Guns for the r OH Tag Champions, but
36:17
didn't. Isn't there going to be a partner now? Yes, you think,
36:22
And it's weird because Mark Briscoe won't wrestle a tag team with anybody other
36:30
than his brother, so it's not going to be Mark Briscoe as the partner,
36:32
even though it would be a perfect partnership. So whatever, But we'll
36:42
I mean, so we got Mark Briscoe and you know, going against Jay
36:46
White tomorrow night. Obviously they're not going to give Jay White a loss going
36:52
into a pay per view, at least not a clean loss. But there
36:54
could be some shenanigans. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised to see MGF.
36:59
I do hope, for Andre's sake, that we do see MGF tomorrow
37:01
night in some kind of crazyiness because Andre is going to be there at Portland
37:06
tomorrow night. Can I interrupt you very quick? Yeah, MGF is defending
37:12
the world title tomorrow against Garcia. That's right, But I'm talking about some
37:16
craziness too. I mean, at that match, if people on the kangaroo
37:21
kick, that's all I need to see. Yeah, k kangaroo kicked the
37:23
ship out of j White. That's what I want to see. So and
37:27
of course I hope that we don't do an outcast thing. We got so
37:30
many people like the Acclaim that are that are supposedly having MGS back. You
37:36
know, I don't want to see, you know, Mark Briscoe, MGF
37:40
for whatever, come out by themselves. We got to have like a group.
37:45
We gotta have a a pinnacle. Yes, the SeaBOS, you're supposed
37:52
to be sharing a break with Rawlins, not me, Sea Boss, But
37:55
what do you think? What's what do you have on the agenda of tomorrow
37:59
night with the whole Briscoe and White, MGF car we gonna see MGF walk
38:04
out of their with is the belt that he earned. I actually think what
38:10
they're gonna do is they're gonna do what they did with Nyla Rose at full
38:15
gear last year, and they're gonna have the fake the fake champion. I
38:22
don't know why I quoted fake champion, the champion walk in with the belt
38:28
and the champion, the real champion, walk out with the belt. I
38:34
can very well see that happening. But they might pull a swerve on us
38:40
and have MJF come in during the UH and have MJF come in during the
38:50
j White Mark Briscoe match and steal his belt, and when and if the
38:54
guns and Juice Robinson, you know, try to be like, hey,
38:59
no, you did. A White's belt has the acclaimed jump them and so
39:04
MJF could just walk out with his belt. Rollin's you got thoughts on UH?
39:08
Do you agree thoughts questions Colens? I honestly I want to care about
39:16
this match given that we know j White is going to win, because,
39:22
like you said, Kelson, there's no way Jay White is taking a loss
39:29
since he's facing MJF at full gear for the World Championship. I just don't
39:34
really have any thoughts on this match. It doesn't excite me. I mean,
39:39
it's not the match. I mean, he's not gonna lose clean.
39:43
Jay White's not gonna lose clean. But there is all kinds of, you
39:45
know, possibilities for chaos during this match and after this match. That part
39:51
is true. I agree with you there, Kelson. I think MJF is
39:57
good take his belt back, no, because we've seen mj IF try to
40:02
do that, and Bullet Club Gold is just like, yeah, there's three
40:07
of us and only one of you. So we're just gonna knock you out
40:13
and take Jay White's belt act, you know, even though it's not actually
40:21
j White's belt. But yeah, that's why. That's all I've got,
40:29
hockey. What do you have to say here? Uh? Who is?
40:37
It's Mark Brisco that he's up against, right, y'r Brisco? Okay,
40:42
I mean the match should be fun. I don't really know a lot about
40:46
the Briscoes, but you know, the little bit that I did see,
40:51
they seem pretty fun to watch. I still don't really like the Bullet Club
41:00
like an eight of you, because they just seem like another faction when they
41:05
should probably be like a gang instead of like how the Jericho Appreciation Society was.
41:15
That's a very good point, because to be honest, I want this
41:21
match to be that the other members don't get involved and it's just j White
41:27
being a cool bad guy because I like cool bad guys instead of bad guys
41:34
are just like we have seven people against one person, because I don't see
41:37
that as intimidating, you know, I like I want to be intimidated by
41:42
like a by a cool bad guy. Very good point. Yeah, you
41:47
know that before before Wolf before you come in here. You know, Aki
41:52
said something there. What do you think about the Club Gold? Are they
41:57
doing it right in era as well? I mean are they Are they a
42:05
good or are they kind of a comedy team? It could be better.
42:10
But I want to just go back to the match, my kid, real
42:15
quick, because I don't understand. I don't understand it. Like you got
42:22
all these guys who are bidding from jf's friendship. You know, you could
42:24
have really booked yourself a match where somebody like Max Caster or the Kingdom guys
42:34
go on against Jay White and they actually are able to get the belt for
42:38
m JF. And now you know they could use that as a as an
42:43
angle. Maybe they're gonna maybe that's how they're going to run this match with
42:46
Brisco. Maybe he's maybe he'll lose, but he'll he'll be able to snatch
42:50
the belt and and give it to him JF for storyline purposes. But yeah,
42:55
Bullet Club Gold, I I mean I've I really enjoyed it, probably
43:00
up until maybe two weeks ago. The whole angle, the whole run,
43:04
the whole stable. Now it's just becoming redundant, it's becoming a little stale
43:08
and it's just not really good. I can understand that go ahead here,
43:19
I am. I might be the outlier here, but I am a huge
43:22
Bay Club Gold fan. They are my favorite act in a W right now.
43:27
It happened since like June, I love everything that see White overall.
43:32
Oh he's second wrestler in a W behind Ken you So I love you White
43:37
je in Supering. I wasn't a big fan of guns, but since they
43:42
came out of many men, they converted me. I haven't accents even on
43:46
them. I love that the go ahead A little talk right there? Okay,
43:59
Yeah. One thing that I would like with the goal is I love
44:01
their segments that uploaded to Twitter and you to a lot of those funny segments
44:07
they do with the bad fact that you don't ever get seen on dynamite or
44:10
collision. I wish they showing sight of themselves a little bit more or they
44:15
are some of those segments because they're entertaining. But as an act, I
44:21
think they're they're great, and you can see that Tony Hahn has so much
44:28
faith in them because consistently that they're wrestling for twenty twenty five minutes or they're
44:35
in the ring for like a good two quarters where match after match promo they
44:40
do something. I've seen them live twice now how it actually eats them out
44:46
there? Can they do all their antics? Everyone's behind them, So I'm
44:51
a huge fan. In terms of match itself, was that it would have
44:55
been a lot more sense for one of the people who are hying for I'm
45:00
just friendship, whether it's Daddy asked whether the next pastor Anthony Bowen to get
45:04
him the mat, because that would have made a lot more storyline sense.
45:07
But like, I'm not gonna complain that Mark brisco is just because he's freaking
45:13
awesome. He got injured. Story with him was always that he's now fying
45:22
with that r O S TV champion ship. That's what had made clear.
45:25
I thought he was gonna win when he faced, but he lost, and
45:30
so the comeback story was always there for him, and he's like the he
45:36
was like, go to the Keith Mojo, Matt. I think Mark Bristol
45:39
was still that person who's gonna beat the Mojo because that's the story, and
45:45
he's gonna he's do because that's that's the finel of the story that you have.
45:50
He's already I want to have let me just break it real quick,
45:55
Audrey, because we had Shane pop in here. Shaney, you hear?
46:01
I sure as LM. Well, look we're talking about the Mark brisco and
46:07
Jay White match real quick. Sorry, Andre I wanted to get shaded here,
46:09
no problem, And we're talking about will Mark brisco help MGF get his
46:15
stolen belt back tomorrow night. Look, we all pretty much agreed that there's
46:21
basically no chance that Mark brisco is going to get a clean win on Jay
46:24
White. But you know, I think we could also agree that there's a
46:29
possibility some chaos. What do you foresee in this match? Oh man?
46:34
Well the guys, sorry for running late. It's been a little bit crazy
46:37
today. But I love and appreciate all of you. You know, to
46:39
be honest with you, the Mark prisk I got caught in the caught on
46:43
the back end of what Air was saying. Do I think that Mark Briscoe
46:46
is going to assist in giving his belt back? Absolutely not. I don't
46:49
think that's going to happen. I think that Jay White is going to carry
46:52
that belt through full gear. If he doesn't win the belt at full gear,
46:55
I would be very surprised because that seems to be the direction that it's
46:59
had in Jay White is going to do the J White thing in terms of
47:02
storytelling into the unforseeable future. That's my prediction. I can't see a reality
47:08
because he's getting paid by Tony Connie said in media that he's incredibly comfortable with
47:14
the way that he's being written for AW. That has to have stipulations.
47:16
That means he has to have some stay in terms of how his story's being
47:20
told, and also, you know, in regards to you know, how
47:22
those belts are being disseminated. Not to mention, no one really has an
47:25
idea, any ideas about the direction of the Bidding War twenty twenty four.
47:30
I believe it's a work. Most people believe it's a work. I think
47:32
MJF is gonna sign with AW into the unforeseeable, unforseeable future. But if
47:37
he is not, the most logical thing would be to put it on someone
47:40
like j White. I know a lot so that that's decisively split between the
47:44
community because people don't quantify Jay White as an AW wrestler. He's very new
47:50
Japan in that AW structure. But I do know that he's like incredibly talented
47:54
and incredibly well routed, and he does have a place in this organization.
47:59
Thank you for tossing that to me. Kelson, By the way, we
48:01
though that would be andre Yes, I was gonna echo of what Air said
48:07
about Bullet Club Gold. I do enjoy them a lot. They're hilarious and
48:12
that many men entrance is low key one of the all time greatest entrances in
48:17
wrestling. I do think that they could change things up a little bit.
48:22
I still believe that Wardlow or somebody of his equivalents should join to kind of
48:29
add more of an intimidation factor to the group, like a powerhouse role.
48:35
They don't really have an enforcer of any kind that most wrestling groups have.
48:39
And as far as the match goes, I think it's going to be a
48:43
fairly standard match. I think it's going to be good and entertaining. But
48:47
I do think Jay White will win and uh Brisco will have a good showing.
48:52
But he will lose, and it's okay because he has been winning quite
48:55
a bit since he's been in aw so no big loss for him. And
49:02
if no one else has anything to add, we can move on to our
49:07
three section. I did have something to add I was gonna say this to
49:13
air, It's like, you're not the only Bullet Club Gold fan in here,
49:15
because I am a huge fan of them myself. I've been enjoying them
49:21
ever since Jy and Juws Robinson started teaming up with that whole Ricky Starks feud,
49:27
and then they get to Collision, they're feuding with punks, they're feuding
49:30
with their teaming up with Joe, then they get the guns, And first
49:35
I wasn't a big fan of it, but then it started to grow on
49:39
me, and I just think what Bullet Club Gold is doing is fantastic.
49:47
So I just want to respond to Shane super quick. As much as I
49:54
want to believe j White is going to walk out of full gear with the
49:59
championship, I honestly don't. And the reason is because next yeah, next
50:06
month, they're doing a pay per view in mjs hometown called World's End.
50:13
Do you really think they would have j White walk into that pay per view
50:17
in MJS hometown as the AAW world champion. Whoa whoa, WHOA hold on,
50:25
I gotta you better be saying something to the say. I'm just gonna
50:30
say something real quick. That's what that's what Tony con does. Look at
50:35
what he did with the Acclaimed. He's burying his his vice presidents. He's
50:39
burying the e vps right now in storytelling. That's professional wrestling. Look at
50:45
the FED man like their whole entire they bid the FED historically, if you
50:47
look at every WrestleMania, or if you look at every every major FED pay
50:51
per view, they bury their talent in their home to hometowns. It gives
50:54
context to their stories. It makes you believe that these people aren't Superman.
50:58
Yes, I and I think it would be. As much as I'm an
51:00
MJF. Mark, We're all Mark, you are, Yeah, we're all
51:05
Mark. Said for any single one of you pro wrestling fans on this,
51:08
on this that listen to us or here contributing to this podcast, if you're
51:12
gonna tell me you're not a Mark, I'm gonna tell you're a bigger Mark
51:14
than me. You know, Like, like they they need to give m
51:17
JF his redemption arc some substance, right if they need to make j White
51:23
look like the Nemesis of nemesies. Not to mention, the bullet Club has
51:28
to be infalluable, infallible, That's what makes the Bullet Club such an imposing
51:32
faction right good. When they showed up in Japan in the beginning of the
51:37
Bullet Club, that that's they re They've revitalized, they reinvented new Japan par
51:42
wrestling. They've done it for impact. Uh that that you know, aj
51:45
Styles has hijacked everything except for the name and the fed ae w They were
51:49
the outliers until j White showed up. They need to make continue to make
51:53
this faction look like they're undefeatable until they could bring in talent that you know,
51:59
makes them look feedable. You know, that's the whole point. You
52:00
know, Rollins love you, buddy, I I I you know I.
52:06
It's it's not any different, you know, it makes a lot more storyline
52:12
sense, or it's just a lot more intriguing. Prior to first MG loses
52:20
the title. That December thirtieth, is this opportunity to win back that pargant
52:23
chip that's gonna secure that big mass, the pay day that he's looking out
52:30
for. And that's that's I'm in the chase of trying that back the data
52:36
for the new year starts. I think that's like such a more compelling story
52:39
than him defending that world's against potentially it's like four or five people at this
52:45
point. Hey, Air, I agree with you. Unfortunately for a w
52:50
storytelling currently that's the low hanging fruit. But you know, to be honest
52:52
with me, I'm a Rollins and I are both Cleveland Browns fans, so
52:57
we're used to disappointment. So oh yeah, what's off? You're right,
53:07
bull Gear would be a perfect time for Wardlow to make his presence known.
53:13
White and yeah, Warlow join the Bullet Club. Warlow and you and you
53:23
just hit on it. That's why I'm That's also why I'm saying m JF
53:28
is not going to lose the championship because think about it, He's got Daniel
53:31
Garcia tomorrow night on Dynamite, He's got j White coming after him, He's
53:37
got Wardlow coming after him. You still have the Adam Cole storyline going on
53:43
with the Kingdom. You've got Samoa Joe coming after him. I don't think
53:47
you take the title off of him. Knowing that you've got all these people
53:52
coming after m JF and his World championship, it makes no sense. But
53:58
they're coming for the champion ship, not exactly for him. So Warlow specifically
54:08
said he wants to go after m j S. Yeah, he's the one
54:12
that's for sure. Well, person, I mean the whole angle is m
54:19
JF is a d bag and he screwed everyone in a w He's a bag
54:25
bag. I love him. So all right, guys, I think we
54:31
spend enough time on this little storyline. We'll have more to talk about it
54:37
after Dynamite tomorrow as we see how things unfold. Uh. And with that,
54:43
we're going to move to the pre section where you can talk about anything
54:46
related to Dynamite tomorrow. And if you guys don't mind, I start this
54:51
because I have a bit of a personal story. It might be a little
54:54
sad but has a happy ending. So basically, I was born in Russia
55:00
and I lived there for ten years in the nineties and we were very poor.
55:05
I had a ten inch black and white TV with five channels, and
55:09
every once in a while they showed WHW Nitro on there and that's how I
55:14
got into wrestling, and Sting became my favorite and to this day, thirty
55:19
years later or not that much, twenty five years later, still my all
55:22
time favorite wrestler. And tomorrow I'm going to Dynamite and I'm going to get
55:28
to see him actually wrestle on his farewell tour for the first time in my
55:32
life. And when I was eight years old watching him on my black and
55:37
white TV, I had no idea that one day I would live in America
55:43
and have money or have any opportunities to attend anything like this and let alone
55:49
see Sting who is sixty four years old now. So I'm super excited.
55:54
Like, and that's my put per re section. That's what I be looking
55:59
on camp right. If you're watching Dynamite tonight tomorrow night for the CM Punky
56:04
Trying, that's gonna be. Yeah, I'm gonna be Just to clarify,
56:14
this is my fourth a W show. I did Cea Staying come out to
56:17
support Darby back in January and Seattle when Darby won the TNT Championship, and
56:22
I saw the segment live at Wressell Dream. But this is an actual match,
56:27
so it's it's a little different still, So I'm excited about that.
56:32
Uh well that's said. Let's move it on to s boss. What do
56:37
you want to talk about? Okay, so what I want to talk about?
56:42
I do want to talk about MJF versus Daniel Garcia. Does MJF going
56:49
into full gear make this less of a match. No, I think Daniel
56:53
Garcia will put in a good showcasing that might garner him a later or push.
57:00
But the question on my mind, and I think on just about anyone's
57:04
mind, is what version of Daniel Garcia are we going to see tomorrow?
57:07
Are we going to see the Red Death or are we going to see the
57:13
sports entertainer? Your thoughts. I mean, when he was cutting his promo,
57:22
I think on Rampage last week, he started to call himself a wrestler,
57:27
but then he caught himself and went back on it and said sports entertainer.
57:32
So I think we are going back to that story. But for my
57:37
potpourri, Red Velvet is back for the first time, and I don't know
57:44
how long, I feel like it's been over a year or something, Okay,
57:51
and she's facing Julia Hart. Do I think Red Velvet is going to
57:57
win this match? No, because it's clear they're still trying to push Julia
58:00
Hart. But I hope that they have some type of plan for Red Velvet
58:07
because I've said this on other podcasts that we've done on here. Red Velvet
58:14
is a very capable wrestler, and I think if she is booked correctly and
58:20
gets the push I think she rightfully deserves, she could hold the TBS Championship,
58:27
maybe even the actual Women's World Championship. Sure, she would have to
58:34
gain more personality, I think, but I think she has the skills to
58:39
do it. So I want to see what type of match she has in
58:45
her return. Okay, what do you think? What's your potpourri? I
58:53
don't really have one for Wednesday, but I do have one for the paper
59:00
reviews coming up if I can. So I have a small Yeah, I
59:06
have a small theory that if j White wins the champion that the Long Island
59:15
crowd is going to boo him really loudly. And yeah, obviously then the
59:22
person behind the devil mask will show themselves. It's gonna be m JF and
59:30
we'll come back, all right. So, going back to what Sea Ball
59:37
said, I'm going to just kind of emphasize the same thing. I'm excited
59:44
for the Daniel Garcia m JF match, And Daniel Garcia just tweeted something that
59:47
I'd like to share, and it's just this one feels bigger than me for
59:52
Ricky, for private party for Moriarity, for Take for Anna, for Darius,
59:58
for Ethan, for Action, for Stoke, maybe even for Sammy and
1:00:01
Yuda. We take it back and we excuse me, we take it back
1:00:07
and lead a w in the future the right way, restore the feeling.
1:00:12
So take that as you may. Sounds like he's got some big plans for
1:00:15
tomorrow. You're just that's a very good tweet. But m JF kind of
1:00:20
belongs in that group too, I think, so yeah, yeah, it
1:00:23
seems like omitting the guy he's facing. Yeah, you know, I what
1:00:30
er, what do you want to talk about? So I had a little
1:00:34
rent on next today after I saw the Don Kellis how graphic which had Yes,
1:00:42
Kenny, Jericho, Ibugi and Paul on one side and the family consisted
1:00:46
of only Don Kellis. That was a real graphic. I thought you,
1:00:52
I thought that was a fake graphic that you put up. That was on
1:00:55
Instagram today, So tweeted by aw official on all platforms. This wasn't better.
1:01:04
It's not photoshop. There is no test, no Sandy, no Hobbes.
1:01:09
It's just Doohn Challas. The forehead got is going against the entire world.
1:01:19
Oh my god. I was the picture. I can't believe it Don
1:01:24
Kallas versus Golden Jari show TK and so like I had like I just like
1:01:32
I was genuinely annoyed by it. So I wrote down like eleven points of
1:01:37
things that like, I despise about that graphic and everything else around the Don
1:01:40
calls family feud. So one, I hate fact that keny Omega is not
1:01:45
wrestling singles matches enough. Two, I hate that in the graphics Jericho is
1:01:52
between the gold lovers. I hate the fact that a w never calls O
1:01:58
Mega Bushi lovers. I hate that wait is there? Five has become all
1:02:06
about donk On Number six, the main protagonist of the story seems to have
1:02:10
shifted from Kenny to Jericho. Yeah, Dakesha got lost in all this.
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When the pairing first happened, it was supposed to be about elevating to Kesha
1:02:21
to be a star, and now where is he? Number eight? The
1:02:24
fact that the actual family members are missing from the graphic. Number nine,
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Why are we using a bushie in a street fight for first style? Let
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him wrestle a genuine match, just just a regular match. Every AW match
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has been like a street fight so far. Yeah, one of his biggest
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viral moments last year was a street fight where he blew up I listen,
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I'm gonna take a step back. Yeah, you know exactly what I'm talking
1:02:54
about. You strike me as a person that knows your crap about professional wrestling.
1:02:58
You and I are going to get along just fine. When he called
1:03:01
out Sam, he's ay, Remember, he's like, there's one person I
1:03:04
want to fight. It's Sam. He's ay, like I want to fight
1:03:07
El Generico is what he said. But God, well spoken, go ahead,
1:03:09
finish, finish. I'm sorry, I'll have my time on the help
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Number ten, number ten, Why did Kenny need assistance from Chris car Oh
1:03:20
and others? The elite is right there and not to tell me that point
1:03:22
last week, which is very good you brought that up. We're here hangings
1:03:28
here is why are you requiring Jacko's help? And then lastly, meek tenth
1:03:35
is when Don Kellis stabbed Kenny in the cage match versus John Moxley and we're
1:03:40
in November. Now, we're in November, and so yeah, that was
1:03:46
not many rats boys. Absolutely all we know that you're not gonna watch Dynamite
1:03:53
next week was think they're squirming like exciting. Shade is Shade is literally bouncing
1:04:05
up and down in his chair. Go for it. Listen, I had
1:04:11
my own Pope Prix thing, but I gotta throw this out there man,
1:04:13
that those types of dialogues about professional wrestling is what makes podcasts, is why
1:04:17
we do this. Right. Our whole entire structure is based off of things
1:04:21
that we want to talk about. But those are things to talk about that
1:04:24
are relevant to aw storytelling. I want to I want to dissect that entire
1:04:29
list. I'm not we don't have the time. This isn't about that conversation.
1:04:31
My Pope Pury for today is about Bullet Club recruitment. So I'm the
1:04:36
Sea Boss and Rollins both know I'm a little bit of a like New Japan
1:04:41
Mark as well. I'm a bullet Club specifically historian, and typically in the
1:04:46
lineage of Bullet Club, we get to a point where they go heavy on
1:04:49
recruiting. We have four members, right, the last major recruitment was the
1:04:54
Guns. They don't have their residential big man. Who's it gonna be?
1:04:58
And we know it's not gonna be. Both Paul White, because he could
1:05:00
barely walk between the sheets to come out to say hey, I'm Paul White
1:05:04
on the brig shoal. Let's get it, you know, like, that's
1:05:06
not a thing. The most logical belief set would be that, you know,
1:05:14
Bolt Club would recruit Wardlow and he would fit in that perfectly. It
1:05:17
would be like when Bolt Club recruited Tomatanga they needed a big guy to get
1:05:23
behind them. That wasn't bad luck fallet you know, you know, when
1:05:28
the real rock and roller ran the club. I would like to see this
1:05:30
start happening because the slower we go on that storytelling, the less relevant the
1:05:36
club will be to how stories are told, you know, with those feuds
1:05:41
in the future. So please t K Crapper, get off the pot and
1:05:45
allow this thing to start cooking. Dude, that's my pelpourri. Okay,
1:05:49
So now I'm gonna go with mine and I'm going to share something that Shane
1:05:54
and I talked about last week and some of you heard, you know,
1:05:58
privately. We've talked about it specifically on our ship talk on Saturday Night.
1:06:03
But I think it's fun and the more I think about it, the more
1:06:08
I'm convinced I'm right. And here is my theory. The man in the
1:06:14
devil mask and if you guys, don't agree with me, You're totally wrong,
1:06:18
because I'm about to lay it on the line for here. There was
1:06:25
a couple of things. There was a couple of things we noticed about the
1:06:28
man in the double mask when he first made his debut, when him and
1:06:33
his well, he had his cronies beat the ship out of Jay White.
1:06:40
First thing we noticed is that he's not as big as a professional wrestler.
1:06:45
He's kind of a he's just not a big guy. Second thing we noticed
1:06:51
is that when he went to grabbed the camera, he reached up with his
1:06:57
left hand, So we have a smaller guy who was left handed. Next
1:07:01
point, and this is what's gonna blow your mind, folks, hold on
1:07:08
to your hats. The next point I'm gonna make is that last week aw
1:07:14
signed released to go to a contract. And at that signing, we had
1:07:16
released to go and Tony Khan, you know, and they did the whole
1:07:20
you know, here, we're gonna sign the contract and yes we're gonna hug
1:07:24
it out and you know, we're gonna tell each other we love you with
1:07:27
know bilingually and whatever. But one thing that I noticed is that Tony Kahn's
1:07:33
not the biggest guy in the world, kind of like the guy in the
1:07:38
double mask, and when he signed a contract, contract was signed with his
1:07:44
left hand. The person behind the double mask is Tony Kahan bank on it.
1:07:54
Yeah, you've never seen the Devil and Tony conn in the same room
1:07:57
together. It was me, JF. It was me all along. You
1:08:08
can't bake on it. You have. You had me for a while thinking
1:08:14
that you are going to say Don Kallas, which I think is very much
1:08:17
possible seven feet tall compared to I thought. I thought you were going with
1:08:23
Kyle O'Reilly. For a second, actually, honestly, for the very get
1:08:30
go, I did rollins believe that it was Kyle O'Reilly. But let's move
1:08:33
on. We're getting toward the end of the show. We're going to make
1:08:38
one spicy prediction for Dynamite tomorrow night, and we're going to start with Sea
1:08:45
Boss. Well, no, we'll go to Andre first. Let's go to
1:08:46
Audrey. Make us Andrey is going to be there. Spicy prediction for spicy
1:08:53
prediction, the outrunners are gonna squash Sting and Darby. Oh my, oh
1:09:04
my god, I want to hug you right now. Oh my god.
1:09:09
Okay, who hurt you Okay, grew up a poor boy in Russia.
1:09:18
Steve Steing is my hero. And then he comes out there, brothers are
1:09:21
gonna squaws thing. He's got to put people over on his way out.
1:09:29
What are you drinking? I want? I got some guy? Oh God.
1:09:39
By the way, you can also make a predictions, you know,
1:09:42
if you want not Boss, go ahead, because I nobody's gonna be able
1:09:47
to beat that one. I actually think that on Dina. My spicy take
1:09:58
is that m j F is going to get his belt back with the help
1:10:00
of the Acclaimed, because when he's got it, when he tried to get
1:10:04
it back in the past, you know, the bull cup going like,
1:10:09
oh we're three year one, we could just beat you up. But now
1:10:13
Mjf's got some help from the Acclaimed, so it kind of evens the odds.
1:10:20
All right, Rolan, you're a spicy take. Let's go ahead and
1:10:27
say that Swerve Strickland absolutely wreck Hangman Adam Page with a steel chair tomorrow.
1:10:39
Yes, are either of them even on the show tomorrow? Yes is hanging.
1:10:45
We don't know. I think Serve is going to just in a backstage
1:10:49
segment. Swerve is just gonna absolutely wreck Hangman with a steel chair. What's
1:10:56
just hope that Hangman isn't either a holding his baby or be holding beer because
1:11:00
that would be devastating. Hey man, no, not my beer, hold
1:11:12
my baby. I need to mourn the death of my beer. Acky.
1:11:20
What is your spicy prediction? I'll do you one better. Swear it was
1:11:25
going to kidnap the baby. Oh I wish I was on camera because the
1:11:34
baby never made it appearance. You know, So he's gonna be like holding
1:11:39
a empty blanket or was gonna be like Ra's kid hang Man's Hangman's kid is
1:11:47
all elite wolf. What is your spicy prediction? I don't know, Man,
1:11:59
you got me floored. Uh I think, yeah, I guess.
1:12:04
I guess they'll just be uh sarcastic and say Tony Storm is gonna come out
1:12:09
and do a little show again. I don't know. Maybe during picture and
1:12:12
picture how surprising? Maybe give peach anyway, Yes you have you have a
1:12:18
spiky, spicy prediction. A spicy prediction. We see a third person get
1:12:26
added to the Tony Storm Uh and uh, I'm black the women' champion Because
1:12:38
I say that because they haven't officially released a graphic for that match yet.
1:12:42
So I feel like somebody might get added. That's a good like a t
1:12:47
You mean like a three way match? Right? Oh okay, I thought
1:12:53
you meant For a second, I thought you meant join her faction, because
1:12:57
do you have one? That's do I ever? First of all, Happy
1:13:02
birthday, Tony Shavanni. No one did you get did you? Guys?
1:13:08
Did we? Did we bring that up today? You know? God?
1:13:11
Shut up, Tony. My spice prediction is that Keith Lee drops the mojo
1:13:15
and I would love to see it. Yeah, why would Why wouldn't that
1:13:18
would be awesome? I don't care. Well, I shouldn't say I don't
1:13:25
care either way, because I love Mojo and I love Lee. I don't
1:13:29
it. How do I say this without sounding negative? I wouldn't mind either
1:13:34
man or winning. Hey, lew great. Let me tell you something about
1:13:40
Keith Lee. His best match was uh during COVID with brock Lesnar in the
1:13:45
FED and I I typically tried to steer myself away from this, but he
1:13:48
stood toe for to bro with brock Lesner. Brock Lesner is one of the
1:13:51
greatest athletes in history, and I'm not I'm sorry. I'm gonna say it.
1:13:56
Played his day and Keith Lee literally rugged off a clothes line from him
1:14:00
and made it look believable. It was an incredible match Keith Lee. If
1:14:05
Keith Lee doesn't beat Samoa Jo tomorrow, I'm gonna riot Wow will would we
1:14:13
would allyself? I could have run Kei Lee versus Samoa Joe when they were
1:14:16
both in NXT. That would have been a fantastic match. I'm sorry.
1:14:20
I know I'm not supposed to swear here, but the fact that Keith Lee
1:14:24
is not a top guy is absolute BS. I didn't swear. I agree.
1:14:30
Well, let me let me give you my spicy actually have too,
1:14:33
but they're small. I think that both the Birthday Boy and the Birthday Girl
1:14:39
tomorrow Night are going to win. I really do. I do believe Keith
1:14:42
Lee is going to win, and I do believe Julia Hart is going to
1:14:45
win. The second part of my spicy prediction is I absolutely do believe that
1:14:49
if not Tomorrow Night, then on Collision, more likely on Collision, maybe
1:14:53
even on rampage. Because when it comes to the TBS Championship, Tony Kahn
1:14:58
waits until the last second book it for for a pay per view. He
1:15:01
will book it for the pay per view. It's going to be Chris Statlander
1:15:04
defending against Sky Blue and Julia Hart in a four and the winner of the
1:15:14
match will be Julia Hart Bike. Actually I like that idea a lot.
1:15:18
Yeah, that's a great idea. Yeah, I don't. I would pay
1:15:23
good money to see that match. I would pay good money to see Willow
1:15:27
win that match. Well, you missed. You missed our poll thing that
1:15:31
we did, Shane and I want to reiterate this. We did a poll
1:15:34
on a w fan hub reddit YouTube. Well let's not let's not repeat ourselves.
1:15:42
Let's Shane hear the episode from the beginning. Hey man, I'll wrap
1:15:47
around. We're good. We did think of you when we were talking about
1:15:51
that subject, so yes, we yes, we were. We were like,
1:15:54
what could be the worst possible scenario, Shane wrestling, But no,
1:15:58
we're not going to get that. So you are awful. I love you
1:16:00
all. Would I would have said me wrestling, But as Andre can attest
1:16:08
to, I was on TV kicking the ship out of Disco Referno in two
1:16:14
thousand, So you're an a team. I was a tag team. I
1:16:17
was I should be at the w W well WCW slash, w W Hall
1:16:23
of fame for kicking the ship out of out of uh Disco inferno. But
1:16:27
anyway, that is ignition for tonight. Be sure to join us tomorrow night
1:16:32
for it'll be uploaded tomorrow night for all the talk. We'll be recording that
1:16:38
at ten fifteen, right after Dynamite right here on our discord, So panel
1:16:42
guys, please join up with us. We'll also be doing a live chat
1:16:45
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1:16:49
We look forward to hearing your comments. This is Kelson, and this was
1:16:56
Andre and the rest of the aw fan club Ben Hubb. We talked a
1:17:02
lot today, getting tongue tied. Yes we're out of time. Good night,
1:17:09
good night everybody,