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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to the reading of the Washington Post for Saturday,
- 0:06March one, twenty twenty five. As a reminder, radio is
- 0:10a reading service intended for people who are blind or
- 0:14have other disabilities that make it difficult to read printed material.
- 0:19Your reader today is Mark Webster. The first article, we're
- 0:26going to read six articles from the front page of
- 0:28the Washington Post today. The Washington Post has three photographs
- 0:33and all three of them are of Trump and Zelensky.
- 0:36The six articles we're going to read in this order
- 0:38or the following Fury boils over in Oval Office, shocking
- 0:43globe confrontation, muddies prospects for peace deal, in reversal, IRS
- 0:50to give up migrant addresses. Fourth, USI is at least
- 0:55one million for fast tracked deportation, DOGE targets agency anti
- 1:02bias offices. And then six and last barbs cut deep
- 1:07in Oklahoma City. We'll do this in two twenty eight
- 1:11minute segments, and probably the last four articles will be
- 1:17cut off in interest of time. Here's the first article,
- 1:21Fury boils over in Oval Office confrontation contentious Trump Zelensky
- 1:27meeting threatens US support for Ukraine. The Ukrainian leader came
- 1:32to Washington to prevent Trump from abandoning Kif in favor
- 1:37of Moscow, but has met with vocal anger from the
- 1:40American President. Here's the article. President Donald Trump ripped into
- 1:46Ukrainian President Vlodimir Zelensky in the office on Friday, demanding
- 1:51respect and gratitude from the wartime leader in a blistering
- 1:55encounter that could determine whether Europe's future is war or peace.
- 2:00The heated back and forth with Trump, Zelensky, and Vice
- 2:03President jd Vance at time talking over each other, was
- 2:07a striking breach of oval office comedy, where even tough
- 2:10exchanges have typically happened with calm voices and diplomatic language,
- 2:15not Friday, when Trump told Zelensky that he had no
- 2:19cards was in no position to make requests of the
- 2:22United States. He also suggested that talks could derail unless
- 2:26attitudes changed. The on camera fury had no modern precedent
- 2:31and was all the more striking at a time when
- 2:33Trump has been more sympathetic to Moscow than the Kiev.
- 2:37After generations in watch, Washington has stood stauntily against Kremlin
- 2:42aggression across the world. Zelensky traveled from Kiev to finalize
- 2:48a deal granting the United States limited access to Ukraine's
- 2:52natural resources, which the smaller country had hoped would make
- 2:56the United States more open to boastering its security in
- 2:59the war with Russian Instead, the meeting ended without signature signatures,
- 3:06as Trump booted Zelensky from the White House and issued
- 3:09what appeared to be a threat to cut off USA
- 3:11for Ukraine entirely. The turn of events was surprising given
- 3:16the optimism at both sides had projected going into a
- 3:19meeting that was designed to showcase a renewed relationship between
- 3:23Zelensky and Trump. The rapid deterioration revealed just how much
- 3:28tension continues to simmer between the two leaders and its
- 3:33stunned policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic. One senior
- 3:37European diplomat described feeling nauseous watching the encounter. Quote You've
- 3:43allowed yourself to be in a very bad position unquote,
- 3:46Trump told Zelensky, blaming Ukraine for the war even though
- 3:50it began with an unprovoked invasion by Moscow. Zelensky resisted
- 3:56Trump's conclusions, urging him to offer security guarantees and emphasizing
- 4:01Russian President Vladimir Putin's aggression and as the conversation grew, heated,
- 4:07chatting Vance for speaking about Ukraine without having visited the country.
- 4:12Zelensky left shortly after one form with a planned news
- 4:17conference council. He exited from the West wing in silence
- 4:20and got into his armored suv. Age and other senior
- 4:24Ukrainian officials walked behind him into a van, some of
- 4:28them appearing dazed. Quote. I have determined that President Zelensky
- 4:35is not ready for peace if America is involved, because
- 4:38he feels our involvement gives him a big advantagement in negotiations.
- 4:43I don't want advantage. I want peace close the quote.
- 4:47Trump wrote on social media as they departed. Quote he
- 4:51disrespected the United States of America in its cherished oval office.
- 4:55He could come back when he's ready for peace. Unquote
- 5:00else he review is underway with billions of dollars of
- 5:02radar systems, vehicles, ammunition, and missiles at stake. According to
- 5:08a senior administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity
- 5:12to discuss the sensitive topic, Ukraine remains under intense bombardment
- 5:17from Russia, with explosions ringing out in Kiev on Friday night.
- 5:21In the hours following the meeting. European leaders meanwhile scrambled
- 5:26to salvage the situation. Many declared their support for Ukraine.
- 5:31Italian Prime Minister Georgia of Maloney, a right wing leader
- 5:35who has maintained close relations with both the White House
- 5:38and Ukraine, called for a summit that would gather Trump
- 5:42with European leaders to discuss the future. Other European leaders
- 5:47were reviewing their stocks of weaponry to see whether they
- 5:50could step in to backstop Kiev. Trump left the White
- 5:54House on Friday evening for a weekend in Florida, eliminating
- 5:58any chance of any in person reconcis. Quote he said
- 6:02he wants to come back right now, but I can't
- 6:04do that unquote, Trump told reporters as he boarded Marine
- 6:07Ie on the south line of the White House. In
- 6:11an interview on Fox News on Friday night, Zelensky cast
- 6:15a meeting as a moment of open but divergent views.
- 6:18He made clear that he was thankful for Trump's support,
- 6:21but said he did not see a need to offer
- 6:23any apology for the public spat in the Oval Office.
- 6:27Zelensky tried to focus on Putin as the figure he
- 6:30to rally against quote Pewtin with Russians their enemies unquote,
- 6:36and wished that Trump would stand more firmly with Ukraine.
- 6:39Quote I want really him to be more on our
- 6:42side unquote, Zelensky said, quote it's not just that the
- 6:46war began somewhere between our countries. The war began when
- 6:50Russia brought the war to our country, and they're not right.
- 6:53They didn't respect our territorial territorial integrity. Closed the quote.
- 6:59He said he had some regrets over the meeting. Quote
- 7:01I think it was not good unquote, but it was
- 7:03unclear whom he considered at fault. Asked if his relationship
- 7:08with Trump could be salvaged, he said, quote, yes, of
- 7:11course unquote. The earlier encounter between the two presidents reverberated
- 7:17around the world in near real time. Senior leaders and
- 7:21Brussels were glued to it on their phone's, officials said.
- 7:24One senior European diplomat said that it was important for
- 7:27Zelensky to fix the problem quickly with a statement that
- 7:31declared his respect for Trump. Another said that it was
- 7:34a final confirmation that Europe had lost its US ally.
- 7:39The officials and others spoke on the condition of anonymity
- 7:42for fear of also inciting Trump's ire the meeting. The
- 7:47meeting's most heated exchange came after Vance pointed to the
- 7:50need for diplomacy and criticized the Biden administration. Zelensky then
- 7:55recounted Pewtin's actions in twenty fourteen and said the world
- 7:59has emboldened him over time. Quote, mister President, with respect.
- 8:03I think it's disrespectful that you for you to come
- 8:07into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
- 8:10front of the American media. Unquote. Vance said, quote you
- 8:13should be thanking the president for trying to bring an
- 8:15end to this conflict. Close the quote. Zelensky challenged him back,
- 8:22a striking shift from other foreign leaders who have been
- 8:24careful to shower the US President and his entourage with praise.
- 8:29In the case of British Prime Minister Keir Starmer just
- 8:32one day earlier, his Oval Office visit included a personal
- 8:36letter from King Charles The third quote, have you ever
- 8:40been to Ukraine? Come once? Close the quote, Zelensky asked Vance.
- 8:45Quote you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour,
- 8:49mister President unquote. Vance responded and then challenged him over
- 8:52problems they've had with their military. Quote. First of all,
- 8:56during the war, everybody has problems, even you. Unquote. Zelensky said,
- 8:59quote uote, but you have nice ocean and don't feel now,
- 9:03but you will feel it in the future. Unquote. That
- 9:06appeared to infuriate Trump, who repeatedly blasted the Ukrainian leader. Quote,
- 9:11you don't know that. Don't tell us what we're going
- 9:13to feel. You're in no position to dictate that. Unquote,
- 9:16he said, his voice rising, quote you're right now not
- 9:21in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be
- 9:24in a very bad position. Unquote. He added, quote you
- 9:27don't have the cards right now with us. You start
- 9:30with having cards unquote. Quote I'm not playing cards. I'm
- 9:34very serious, mister president. Unquote. Zelensky responded, quote, I'm very serious. Unquote.
- 9:40Vance joined in, asking, quote, have you said thank you
- 9:43once in this entire meeting? Unquote. Zelensky said he has
- 9:48often thanked the American people further support in the war effort.
- 9:51As Zelensky tried to speak, Trump interrupted him, quote, wait
- 9:55a minute, No, no, you've done a lot of talking. Unquote.
- 9:59Trump said, quote your country is in big trouble unquote.
- 10:02Trump eventually ordered reporters out of the room, and as
- 10:06they were leaving, offered an aside, quote, this is going
- 10:10to be great television. Unquote, he said, quote I will
- 10:13say that unquote. Trump had declared his faith that Putin
- 10:17two wants to end the war and will abide by
- 10:20any peace agreement that is struck. He is held back
- 10:23from criticism of the Russian leader, even has as he
- 10:27has hit Zelensky. This week, he sided with Moscow and
- 10:31Pyonyang against Ukraine in a vote marking the war's anniversary
- 10:36of the United Nations. But Trump has often taken pains
- 10:39to be polite with other leaders when he has met
- 10:41them in person, and he has positive face to face
- 10:45conversations with Zelensky in the past, something the Ukrainian leader
- 10:50was banking on when he rushed to Washington this week
- 10:52for the encounter. White House officials, too, say they had
- 10:57expected a friendly meeting. They blamed Zelensky's handling of the conversation. Quote,
- 11:02everybody in the room was expecting the exact opposite of
- 11:06the exchange today. It was not the plan for it
- 11:09to go that way unquote. A Trump administration official said,
- 11:14Trump and Zelensky have a long history dating back to
- 11:16Trump's first term. More recently, Trump has lavished attention on
- 11:21Putin and referred to Zelensky as a quote dictator unquote,
- 11:25while also expressing hope over a deal for rare earth minerals.
- 11:30Trump several times cast himself as a mediator between the
- 11:33two countries, saying he wanted to open up communications with
- 11:37Russia in a way that Biden's administration would not, while
- 11:41also aligning himself with Ukraine by hosting Zelensky at the
- 11:45White House. Some European officials said they believe the drama
- 11:50amounted to a prepared attack on Zelensky. Senator Lindsey Graham,
- 11:54a Republican from South Carolina, appearing at the White House,
- 11:58told reporters after the heated meeting that he had warned
- 12:00Zelensky to proceed carefully and was shocked that he didn't.
- 12:04Quote I talked to Zelensky this morning unquote, Graham said, quote,
- 12:08don't take the bait unquote. A senior Western diplomat grimaced
- 12:13at the combative scene, noting that US and European officials
- 12:17had co ordinated for weeks to try to avoid this
- 12:19very outcome. Given Trump's thin skin and deep skepticism of Zelensky. Quote.
- 12:25I just don't understand how Zelensky walked into the trap. Unquote,
- 12:29said the diplomat, noting Zelensky's long winded remarks that triggered
- 12:33the argument. Quote your life literally depends on this man.
- 12:37If he starts throwing custard pies at you, you let him. Unquote.
- 12:41Russia scholars and analysts were gassed. If Zelensky is thinking strategically, quote,
- 12:47he will accept that he cannot fix this personally and
- 12:50will instead appoint an envoy, someone respected in Washington who
- 12:54is not part of his current senior team, to try
- 12:57to get the train back onto the tracks in the weeks.
- 13:00Closed the quote, said Eric Scharamela, a Russia and Eurasia
- 13:05expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Quote the alternative,
- 13:10I fear is that Moscow and Washington will reach a
- 13:13deal over the heads of Ukrainians. Close the quote. That's
- 13:17the end of the first article. Our second article is
- 13:22Confrontations muddies. Confrontation muddies prospects for peace steal headlines. Firing
- 13:34meeting with Zelensky up ins Trump's Russia Ukraine peace deal.
- 13:38US officials gave conflicting signals about the future of an
- 13:42agreement to end the three year war, while European allies
- 13:45struggled to make sense of the tense Oval Office encounter.
- 13:50Here's the article. As reaction to the Trump Zelensky meltdown
- 13:53in the Oval Office on Friday turned from astonishment to
- 13:57concern about what happens next, there was little consensus on
- 14:00whether a US negotiated peace deal to end the Russia
- 14:04Ukraine war remains possible. Quote. He can come back when
- 14:07he's ready for peace unquote, President Donald Trump said on
- 14:11social media after his firing meeting with his Ukrainian counterpart.
- 14:15The agreement that he had prepared for President Vladimir Zelensky,
- 14:19giving the United States rights to exploit Ukraine's critical minerals
- 14:23in exchange for a vaguely outlined US security guarantee, remained unsigned.
- 14:30With While Zelensky tried to get Trump to be more
- 14:33specific about how he would ensure that Russia would not
- 14:36again violate a ceasefire, Trump downplayed the importance of security,
- 14:41saying it amounted to quote two percent of unquote of
- 14:44any deal that stopped the fighting. Quote I'm not worried
- 14:47about security unquote. Trump said, quote, I'm worried about getting
- 14:50the deal done unquote. Top Trump national security officials rushed
- 14:55to congratulate him for posting, for putting Zelensky in his
- 14:58place as the President has always done. He stood for America.
- 15:03America first. The world saw today in real time unquote.
- 15:07Keith Kellogg, Trump's Special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, posted
- 15:11on X Vice President J. D. Vance, leaning forward on
- 15:16the sofa as the two presidents sat in armchairs before
- 15:19the fireplace, essentially called Zelensky an ingrate and badgered the
- 15:23Ukrainian president to say quote thank you unquote to Trump. Shocked.
- 15:27European leaders, who have tried to stroke Trump's ego while
- 15:31gently nudging him toward ongoing support for Ukraine, largely confined
- 15:36themselves to saying they stood with Zelensky. Quote it's too
- 15:41fresh to give a serious and considered opinion on it. Unquote.
- 15:44A European diplomat said of the Oval Office meeting, quote,
- 15:47it shifts the tone, but the fundamentals of why we
- 15:50need a peace settlement have not changed. Unquote. The diplomat,
- 15:54who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were
- 15:58not authorized to state their government its position said that
- 16:01while Trump's aggression was striking, Zelensky quote hit the wrong
- 16:05tone unquote in publicly challenging him. British Prime Minister Keir
- 16:09Starmer has called European leaders to a meeting Sunday in
- 16:12London for what the European official called, quote a moment
- 16:16to stake, to take stock unquote and discuss next steps.
- 16:20Zelensky is suspected to attend. US officials gave conflicting signals
- 16:26about the future. One senior administration official told The Washington
- 16:30Post that the Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing
- 16:34shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to Zelensky's
- 16:38perceived in transigent in face of Trump's desire to quickly
- 16:42solve the Ukrainian conflict. The decision, if taken, would apply
- 16:49to billions of dollars of radars, vehicles, ammunition, and missiles
- 16:54awaiting shipments shipment to Ukraine, though the Presidential Drawdown Authority,
- 17:00said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity
- 17:03to discuss the sensitive topic, Trump has said that US
- 17:06rights to Ukraine's mineral resources would serve as repayment for
- 17:10hundreds of billions of dollars of USAID and that the
- 17:13presence of US engineers and miners to exploit them is
- 17:16security enough. State Department spokesman Tammy Bruce, speaking late Friday
- 17:23on Fox Business, speculated that Zelensky quote is maybe having
- 17:27some second thoughts unquote about questioning Trump's Trump in the
- 17:31Oval Office. Quote, but he has a chance to turn
- 17:34this around, and he probably can unquote. She said that
- 17:38the blow up quote doesn't mean that the deal still
- 17:40can't be done unquote, and that Zelensky quote has choices
- 17:44to make unquote. Bruce indicated that the administration was not
- 17:48displeased with the spectacle of an Oval Office shouting match
- 17:51on live television. Quote this is what the American people
- 17:54voted for, unquote, she said of the event that took
- 17:57place quote in public, in the environment of the White House,
- 18:01where it is clear that the American people can see
- 18:03what the dynamic is and what the President of the
- 18:05United States thinks unquote. What they experienced, she said, was
- 18:10quote diplomacy in action with blunt talk and a clarity
- 18:15that you rarely see, part and parcel of what it
- 18:19means to make America great again. Close the quote. The
- 18:22aborted White House session with Zelensky, including a canceled luncheon
- 18:26and joint news comforts that were to have followed. The
- 18:29mineral deals signing came after US and Russian officials met
- 18:33Thursday in Istanbul to discuss restoring full ties between the
- 18:37two countries, including the return of a US ambassador to
- 18:41Moscow after a two and a half year absence of
- 18:44Moscow's equivalent return to a full diplomatic complement in the
- 18:47United States. The Istanbul meeting after a similar session ten
- 18:53days earlier in Saudi Arabia, neither of which Ukraine was
- 18:56invited to participate in, and a call between Trump and
- 19:00Putin with plans to meet face to face, illustrated the
- 19:03speed with which the US president has moved to end
- 19:06the war. But current and former diplomats worry that Trump,
- 19:10who described himself Friday as quote the toughest human being unquote,
- 19:14is racing toward a deal that will be more favorable
- 19:16to Moscow than Kiev. And yet it was Trump who
- 19:20expelled sixty Russian diplomats accused of being intelligence officers in
- 19:24twenty eighteen and ordered the closure of a Russian consulate,
- 19:29punishing Putin for poisoning one of his own expis in
- 19:33Britain and reducing quote Russia's ability to spy on Americans
- 19:37and to conduct covert operations that threatened America's national security unquote.
- 19:43The White House set of the time said at the time.
- 19:46Celeste Wallander, who had extensive dealings with the Ukraine government
- 19:50as a senior Pentagon official during the Biden administration, said,
- 19:54Friday's Oval Office episode quote changes the dynamic fundamentally unquote
- 19:58for potential to diploma. Was he going forward? Quote Until today,
- 20:03it felt like the White House was aiming at being
- 20:05a neutral arbiter to find the way for an agreement
- 20:08between Ukraine and Russia on an equitable resolution of the
- 20:12conflict unquote, she said, quote After today, it feels like
- 20:16the White House has actually chosen signs, and it has
- 20:20chosen on the side of Putin's Russia to force a
- 20:23resolution unquote. Wallander, who is now a senior fellow at
- 20:27the Center for a New American Security think tank, said
- 20:30that for Zelensky, the deterioration of ties with Washington will
- 20:34increase the importance of European nations commitments to Ukraine. In
- 20:38recent weeks, the Europeans have sought to build American support
- 20:42for a scenario in which they would place peacekeeping forces
- 20:46within Ukraine, away from the front lines, as a bulwark
- 20:49in the event of an agreement to halt the fighting.
- 20:52The United States, in this proposal, would provide a military
- 20:56quote backstop unquote with capabilities in alone and supply in
- 21:00vast quantities, including long range missiles, heavy air transport, and
- 21:06air defense systems in the meantime. Quote the question of
- 21:10what happens to US support has been looming over everything unquote,
- 21:14said Andrew Weiss, a Russian specialist at the Carnegian Dowment
- 21:18for International Policy. Quote. Europe doesn't have the resources or
- 21:22unity to backfield. It doesn't have the intelligence capability crucial
- 21:26to the lethality of the Ukrainian campaign unquote. Now, Weiss said,
- 21:31a ceasefire on Russia's terms has become more possible quote
- 21:35because Ukraine is going to be worried that its relationship
- 21:38with the United States is in tatters, and they better
- 21:40find a way to get the best deal they can
- 21:43before Russia's advantages become even more stark for them. We'll
- 21:47close the quote and in that article. Now we'll go
- 21:50to the third article, which we will probably have to
- 21:53truncate a little bit. The third article, DHS asks IRS
- 21:57for addresses of people believed to be in US illegally.
- 22:01The Tax agency has so far refused to give Immigration
- 22:05enforcement officials home addresses for seven hundred thousand individuals. People
- 22:11familiar with the issues said DHS also asks for skilled
- 22:15auditors to investigate businesses. Here is the article. Internal Revenue
- 22:23Service leaders rejected a recent request from immigration enforcement officials
- 22:28to divulge the home addresses of seven hundred thousand people
- 22:32suspected of being in the country illegally, rebuffing a Trump
- 22:36administration attempt to leverage the Tax Service to assist the
- 22:40sweeping immigration crackdown. In a memo obtained by the Washington Post,
- 22:45Department of Homeland Security Authorities as THERS on Thursday, to
- 22:49connect the names of potentially undocumented immigrants with the people's
- 22:53last known addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses. It follows
- 22:58a DHS request roughly two weeks weeks ago that would
- 23:01allow immigration officials to provide a list of names to
- 23:04the IRS and hopes of obtaining home addresses from the
- 23:08Tax agency. According to five people familiar with the situation
- 23:12who spoke on the condition of anonymity, but out of
- 23:15fear of professional reprisals. IRS leaders initially rejected DHS request,
- 23:20the People said, and are attempting to negotiate terms to
- 23:24assist immigration enforcement officials without violating tax privacy laws. The
- 23:30memos suggested the creation of a team of IRS officials
- 23:34to review taxpayer's data so it is not accessed by
- 23:37DHS personnel. At the end of the workday Friday, though,
- 23:41a new acting IRS Commissioner, Melanie Krauss, took over the
- 23:45agency and quickly indicated she was interested in exploring how
- 23:49to comply with the DHS request. To the People said,
- 23:53as of late Friday night, it did not appear that
- 23:56the IRS would immediately be able to turn over the
- 23:58information DHS saw. DHS's Thursday memo also asked the IRS
- 24:05to deploy dozens of highly skilled RS auditors and criminal
- 24:08investigators to launch probes of businesses suspected of hiring immigrants
- 24:13not authorized to work in the United States. Quote, IRS
- 24:17investigation should be conducted and assistance should be provided without
- 24:21regard for any threshold, floor or internal policy for opening
- 24:26an investigation. Unquote. The memo states, quote further, IRS should
- 24:31provide leads on businesses that are circumventing tax laws or
- 24:35violating work site related statutes, many of which are from
- 24:39prior leads or complaints that IRS did not investigate due
- 24:43to not meeting internal IRS policy for opening an investigation unquote.
- 24:48The memo and request have promoted deep alarm within the IRS.
- 24:52The people said providing taxpayer information to third parties is
- 24:57punishable by civil and criminal penalties, and other government entities
- 25:01are forbidden from ordering tax investigations. People familiar with the
- 25:05DHS's request described them as quote Nixonian unquote, referring to
- 25:10how President Richard M. Nixon's administration used the RS to
- 25:14collect information about perceived enemies. Abuse of the tax system
- 25:19was one of the articles of impeachment filed against Nixon
- 25:21in nineteen seventy four, though he resigned before the impeachment proceeded.
- 25:26The RS has assured and has reassured undocumented immigrants for
- 25:31years that their information is confidential and that it would
- 25:35be safe for them to file home to file income
- 25:38tax returns reflecting their earnings without fear of being deported.
- 25:43When some immigrants were rattle about filing taxes after Trump
- 25:47took office in twenty seventeen, the RS said the law
- 25:51doesn't allow the agency to share personal tax information with
- 25:55one with another government agency. Quote. There is no authorization
- 26:00to this provision to share tax data with ICE unquote,
- 26:03the RS said then, referring to Immigration and Customs Enforcement
- 26:08part of the DHS. Representatives from the Department of Homeland
- 26:12Security and RS did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
- 26:17The undocumented immigrants pay billions of dollars in federal taxes
- 26:22every year by filing annual returns or having money withheld
- 26:25from their paychecks. An estimated half possibly more of the
- 26:30roughly eleven million undocumented immigrants in the country file income
- 26:35tax returns to document their contributions to the United States.
- 26:39Researchers say, because most are ineligible for Social Security numbers,
- 26:44the RS allows them to file with individual taxpayer numbers
- 26:48known as itis instead. Tax data can provide information about
- 26:54potentially undocumented immigrants, including their addresses, family structures, and bank
- 26:59and employment information, experts say, but even a taxpayer's name
- 27:04and home address are considered protected data under the federal law,
- 27:08said Nana Osen, who was the National Taxpayer Advocate of
- 27:13the IRS's internal watchdog from two thousand and one to
- 27:15twenty nineteen. A federal official who spoke on the condition
- 27:19of anonymity to discuss the sensitive issue said ICE may
- 27:23view the IRS database as valuable for pinpointing undocumented immigrants
- 27:27because tax returns often contain recent information such as current workplaces,
- 27:33names and ages of children, and home addresses. ICE is
- 27:36tracking nearly eight million undocumented immigrants on its deportations docket,
- 27:41but immigrants often do not update their addresses with the
- 27:44enforcement agency. Sharing taxpayer information would mark a major reversal
- 27:49for the IRS. Many immigrants proudly file tax returns and
- 27:53save them in hopes that a record of paying taxes
- 27:56will boast of their efforts to apply for a legal
- 27:58residency one day if Congress passes the law allowing it.
- 28:02Now we have to break there for our twenty eight
- 28:04minute break. I will not continue this article, although it
- 28:08has about another half dozen paragraphs. Welcome back to the
- 28:13second twenty eight second minute segment of our reading of
- 28:17the Washington Post for today, Thursday, March one, twenty twenty eight.
- 28:22We've now read three of the six articles that we mentioned.
- 28:26Were on the fourth article, USI's at least one million
- 28:30for fast tracked deportation. Trump seeks to fast tracts deportations
- 28:35of hundreds of thousands by expanding use of the quote
- 28:38expedited removal of quote law from within one hundred miles
- 28:42of a border to the entire country. Trump officials will
- 28:46try to remove more than one million immigrants admitted to
- 28:49the United States during the Biden administration. The Trump administration
- 28:54has directed federal officers to identify immigrants who can be
- 29:00rapidly removed from the United States without a court hearing
- 29:04as a part of its quest to boost deportations. According
- 29:09to an internal memorandum viewed by The Washington Posts, the memos,
- 29:13circulated at US Immigration and Customs Enforcement on February eighteenth,
- 29:18details the agency's led a strategy to accelerate removals and
- 29:22identifies their potential targets. More than one million migrants who
- 29:28were admitted to the United States through an array of
- 29:30initiatives during President Joe Biden's administration could be flagged quote
- 29:35for expedited removal unquote proceedings. Though officials have instructed immigration
- 29:40officers to pour over the nearly eight million deportation cases
- 29:45on their dockets to find more migrants could be speedily
- 29:48deported if they crossed the border illegally, were waved into
- 29:52the country on parole or with a notice to report
- 29:55to immigration authorities, and have not applied for asylum. The
- 30:00immigrants also arrived legally through a port of entry also
- 30:04may be targeted if they lacked immigration documents or misrepresented themselves,
- 30:08the memo said. Lawyers said this group could include Nicaraguans, Venezuelans,
- 30:15and others who entered legally through a Biden parole program,
- 30:18which President Donald Trump terminated if they lack any other
- 30:22immigration status. Migrants who booked appointments through the US Customs
- 30:27and Border Protection app to enter through a border checkpoint
- 30:31also could be swept out of the country. Quote. This
- 30:34is allowing ICE to go after a lot of people
- 30:37that are here that have been here for a long
- 30:39time unquote, said Paul Hunker, former ICE Chief Council in Dallas,
- 30:44who said the fast track deportation process historically has been
- 30:47meant for newer arrivals and not people who have deep
- 30:51roots in their communities. ICE did not respond to questions
- 30:55about the memo, which was sent from the Association Director
- 30:59for Fear Operations to immigration officers nationwide. The memo comes
- 31:05to Trump administration officials. As Trump administration officials scramble to
- 31:11fulfill his campaign promise to oversee a historic mass deportation
- 31:15of millions of immigrants, those efforts have fallen short, in
- 31:19part because longtime residents are entitled to court hearings that
- 31:23can take years to materialize. So Trump officials are increasingly
- 31:28targeting people who can be quickly removed, such as criminals,
- 31:32those with final removal orders, or people with temporary protections
- 31:36like parole that officials can swiftly rescind. Recent arrivals who
- 31:41were released into the country via parole are in such
- 31:45a tenuous position that the month before the twenty twenty
- 31:48four presidential election, the Biden administration warned them to apply
- 31:52for asylum or permanent residency if eligible, to avoid being deported.
- 31:58Expedited Removal was created in nineteen ninety six law that
- 32:01sought to deter legal immigration. For most of its history,
- 32:05it has been deployed on the southern border with Mexico
- 32:09to quickly remove thousands of migrants caught within one hundred
- 32:13miles of the boundary. Shortly after their arrival. Migrants can
- 32:16plead their case to immigration officers if they fear their
- 32:20lives will be in danger if they return home. If
- 32:23they lose their only recourse is a cursory review by
- 32:26an immigration judge. After Trump took office, his administration immediately
- 32:31expanded quote expedited removal unquote from the southern border to
- 32:36the rest of the United States to target people who
- 32:38have been here for two years or less. Trump made
- 32:42a similar attempt during his first term in twenty nineteen,
- 32:46but was blocked by federal judge. But advocates said the
- 32:51February eighteen ICE memo goes even further than the expansion
- 32:55into the interior because targets because it targets people who
- 32:59arrived via parole, most of them legally, even if they
- 33:02have been in the United States longer than two years.
- 33:06The memo says immigration officers may pursue someone for xboiity
- 33:10removal even after the two year time limit if they
- 33:14are quote arriving aliens unquote, such as those who showed
- 33:18up at a border checkpoint without immigration documents and were
- 33:22released into the United States. Quote. There is no time
- 33:25limit on the ability to process each aliens for er unquote,
- 33:29the memo said, referring to xbotity removal. In a separate
- 33:34example of how far the administration will go to increase
- 33:38its deportation numbers, the memo said immigrants who won protection
- 33:43from being deported because the judge ruled they could be
- 33:46persecuted or tortured in their home country should be considered
- 33:50for expulsion to a different company, different country. Lawyers say
- 33:57there is no guarantee that country would that country would
- 34:01protect the immigrant from being deported to the country they fled. Quote.
- 34:06This is an effort to really circumvent the most precious
- 34:10aspect of the asylum laws, which is we do not
- 34:13send people back to countries whether their life or freedom
- 34:16would be threatened, said Ara Kerzbaan, a Miami immigration lawyer
- 34:21and the author of a widely used legal source book.
- 34:25The membo also encourages immigration officers to re arrest immigrants
- 34:29they have had to release in the past because they
- 34:31could not deport them, typically because their homelands refused to
- 34:35take them back. Trump has threatened sanctions against such countries,
- 34:39and the memo says the administration has made quote significant
- 34:43gains unquote in carrying out deportations. Legal challenges to the
- 34:48memoir are expected, and the administration faces logistical hurdles, such
- 34:53as discovering where immigrants are living now and parsing whether
- 34:57they have filed applications for a permanent legal immigration status.
- 35:02But the move is jarring advocates for immigration for immigrants
- 35:06because expedited proceedings move so quickly and it is difficult
- 35:11to locate immigrants and defend them. Quote. The use of
- 35:14expedited removal of the border for recent arrivals has resulted
- 35:18in countless errors, But expanding a system that lacks due
- 35:22process to longtime residents in the interior of the country
- 35:26is problematic at a whole other level. Unquote, said American
- 35:29civil liberties union lawyer Lee Gelernt, who in January filed
- 35:34a lawsuit on behalf of immigrant advocates seeking to stop
- 35:38Trump from using expedited removal in the US interior. Quote,
- 35:43providing the process is built into the fabric of our country,
- 35:48but is step by step being eliminated by this administration.
- 35:51Close the quote, and surprisingly that ends the article that
- 35:54was shorter than what I expected. I now will go
- 35:57to the fourth excuse me, to the fifth and sixth
- 36:00articles again, which I anticipate I'll have to cut off
- 36:03for time reasons. Fifth article, Trump officials start dismantling civil
- 36:08rights offices as part of dog's secret plan. Legal experts
- 36:13said that unwinding a civil rights erab bulwark designed to
- 36:17safeguard employees' rights removes a crucial check on institutional power.
- 36:22Here's the article. Agencies across the federal government are dismantling
- 36:26offices that enforce civil rights and anti discrimination laws under
- 36:31a Trump administration push to strength the workforce, weakening the
- 36:35government's ability to deliver on legal obligations to protect workers' rights.
- 36:40The Social Security Administration this week announced it was closing
- 36:44its Office of Civil Rights and Equal Opportunity, where about
- 36:48one hundred and fifty people worked investigating civil rights complaints,
- 36:51preventing harassment, and ensuring accommodations for people with disabilities. According
- 36:58to two people familiar with the matter, who spoke on
- 37:01the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation, leaders at
- 37:06the Labor Department are planning to cut by ninety percent
- 37:10the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs, which for decades
- 37:14has worked to ensure that government contractors took affirmative action
- 37:19to end discrimination at their firms. Documents obtained by The
- 37:22Washington Post show The Federal Trade Commission, meanwhile, has had
- 37:27its internal Equal employment Opportunity office to three employees from six,
- 37:32and similar moves have been taken at NASA, where most
- 37:35information about how to file complaints has been removed from
- 37:38its websites. The moves signaled the Trump administration's intent to
- 37:44deliver on us doge's service plans for workforce cuts laid
- 37:48out in a series of documents obtained by the Post,
- 37:51which initially contemplated eliminating the civil rights functions altogether in
- 37:56violation of federal law. Agency equal opportunity offices are mandated
- 38:02by statute to ensure that employees receive equal opportunity quote
- 38:07regardless of race, sex, national origin, color, religion, disability, or
- 38:11reprisal for engaging in prior protected activity unquote, and have
- 38:15been viewed with skepticism by the administration, which has sought
- 38:19to purge the federal government of diversity, equity and inclusion
- 38:22industries in fetherance of President Donald Trump's goal quote to
- 38:26forge a colorblind and merit based unquote society, and it
- 38:30has long been on some conservatives wish list to decap
- 38:34the external civil rights work of the Labor Department's contract
- 38:38Compliance Office, which for decades has audited the nation's largest contractors,
- 38:44including Lockey, Martin, Boeing, and del Wahtte Dell White, delo
- 38:48Wit the Elitte that's the accountegate company to insure fair
- 38:54pay and hiring. Plans obtained by the Post show the
- 38:58office will maintain fifty employees to enforce discrimination law for
- 39:02veterans and workers with disabilities, but it will no longer
- 39:06be staffed to audit companies for pay and hiring disparities
- 39:09for women and minority workers. Much of that work had
- 39:13been halted since Trump last month overturned and anti discrimination
- 39:17order signed by Lyndon B. Johnson, which established the office's
- 39:22primary mission sixty years ago. The erosion of private sector
- 39:25guard wills is likely to deter people from reporting mistreatment,
- 39:30said Jenny Yang, who served as director of the agency
- 39:33during the Biden administration and presided over investigations of multiple
- 39:37large firms over gender pay disparities and hiring discrimination. Quote.
- 39:43They are concerned about retaliation. They could lose their jobs unquote,
- 39:47Yang said. Quote, and the real power of the OFCCP
- 39:51is that it required federal contractors to engage in proactive
- 39:55barrier analysis to really prevent discrimination unquote legally. Experts said
- 40:00that unwinding a civil rights board designed its designed to
- 40:06safeguard employees' rights removed a crucial check on institutional power.
- 40:11The groundwork for such laws began with Civil Rights Act
- 40:14of nineteen sixty four, which outlaw discrimination and employment and
- 40:18sought to promote the integration of the largely celebrated US workforce.
- 40:23Core laws protecting workers from discrimination and harassment remain in effect,
- 40:28and the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the primary enforcer of
- 40:32those laws, has not announced large reductions in workforce, but
- 40:36the attack on equal employment offices within the federal government
- 40:40is concerning, said Larry Stein, a federal employment attorney, noting
- 40:44that they are required by civil rights laws and are
- 40:47a crucial extension of their principles. Quote. Harmed to federal
- 40:51employees will occur when these severely short staffed EEO officers
- 40:56are unabled to process EEO complaints in attack manner, which
- 41:01will allow discriminatory behavior on the part of federal managers
- 41:05to continue close quote Steime said. He added that the
- 41:09moves could have an outside impact on minorities, women, LGBTQ people,
- 41:14and other marginalized groups. Within the federal government and come
- 41:18as all federal employees are in greater need of protection
- 41:21amid a time of rapid workforce transformation. Quote. The goal
- 41:25here is to discourage the filing of EEO complaints to
- 41:29begin with, by adding interminable delay to a process that
- 41:33already takes far too long unquote steime said. Lee Dudek,
- 41:37Acting Commissioner of Social Security, cast the closure of the
- 41:40agency's EEO office as an efficiency measure and a statement
- 41:44announcing the decision quote Terminating the Office of Civil Rights
- 41:48an equal opportunity and reassigning statutory responsibilities performed by this
- 41:53office advanced the present's goal to make all of government
- 41:57more efficient in serving the American public close the quote.
- 42:00He said. The office did not immediately answer questions about
- 42:04how the work would be redistributed. The plans by DOGE,
- 42:10which stands for the Department of Government Efficiency, though it
- 42:14is not a cabinet level agency to call federal agencies
- 42:18equal opportunity offices, began before Trump was sworn in. Documents
- 42:22obtained by the Post show. These documents fingered dozens of
- 42:26offices that protect employees' civil rights or investigate claims of
- 42:30employment discrimination in the federal workplace for possible cuts to
- 42:34help Trump deliver un campaigned promises to strengthen the two
- 42:38point three million person civil service. DOGE intended for the
- 42:42Trump administration to identify members of statutorily required offices who
- 42:48should be tied to diversity efforts. The documents show a
- 42:52DOGE document called such workers quote corrupted branches unquote. Doge
- 42:58planned for the administration to the first placed such employees
- 43:01on leave, then fired them via a reduction in force action,
- 43:05the government form of layoffs. Throughout the process, planners stated
- 43:10the need to find legal justification for such firings. The
- 43:13documents show DOG intended for the administration to enact trims
- 43:19at offices required by law between the thirty first and
- 43:22one hundredth eightieth day of Trump's presidency from mid February
- 43:26to mid July. The cuts at NASA and Social Security,
- 43:28which are listed for targeting in a DOG spreadsheet, came
- 43:32right on schedule. The much smaller EEO office at the
- 43:37Federal Trade Commission has also been reduced, According to Stein,
- 43:42the attorney who represented one of its workers, days after
- 43:45Trump's inauguration, the office was totally shut down with its
- 43:49functions transferred to the agency's General Counsel's Office. According to
- 43:53documents reviewed by the Post, the move was contrary to
- 43:57federal law. According to Stein, the office this has since
- 44:00been restored, with three workers, half the former number. According
- 44:04to Stein, the FTC declined to comment. Nick Bednar, a
- 44:09University of Minnesota professor of law, said the EEO offices
- 44:13quote play a significant role in protecting individual employees from
- 44:17discrimination and managing the culture of the workforce. Closed the
- 44:20quote quote, A lot of these agencies are required by statute,
- 44:26and by gutting these agencies, they are not able to
- 44:29perform the obligations that are placed on them, and the
- 44:32morale within the workforce is going to degrade pretty quickly unquote.
- 44:37Bednar added the changes have left some employees confused about
- 44:42where to address their civil rights concerns at NASA, one
- 44:46employee discovered her Equal Employment Officers contact had been dismissed.
- 44:51When she tried to email the employee with a request
- 44:54this week. The email bounced back with the message that
- 44:58the staffer quote wasn't found at now dot gov unquote.
- 45:01According to a copy of the message obtained by the Post,
- 45:05a NASA spokesperson told the post that the agency's EEO
- 45:11office reductions and the removal of information on its websites
- 45:15are meant to comply with Trump's executive orders. A Social
- 45:19Security Administration staffer who has used the shuttered office to
- 45:24help navigate a disability said she received no notice about
- 45:28the change internally, and instead found out by browsing public
- 45:31news sources. Speaking on the condition of anonymity for fear
- 45:35of retaliation, she described contacting the colleagues and a manager
- 45:41from whom she happened to have personal contact information. She
- 45:44was too scared to ask questions on any internal platforms.
- 45:47The supervisor had no additional information. Quote. My reaction is
- 45:52shock and anger un quote, she said, adding that she
- 45:54has an accommodation that will have to be renewed in
- 45:57several months. Quote. As a disabled employee, I don't have
- 46:00a polite word for this. I want to cry. Close
- 46:03the quote, and that closes. The entire reading of the
- 46:06entire fifth article will now go to the sixth and last.
- 46:10It looks like I might have time to read it
- 46:13in its entirety. Barbs cut deep in Oklahoma City. Federal
- 46:19workers haunted by Oklahoma City bombing fear Trump's barbs the
- 46:23anti government attack lingers in the memories of those bracing
- 46:27for dog layoffs. He served twenty four years in the Army,
- 46:31completing combat tours in Iraq and Syria. Now he solved
- 46:35military tech problems from a Civilian Defense Department cubicle in Oklahoma.
- 46:40Quote he firmly believes in the mission un quote. His
- 46:43last performance review noted, quote to serve the war fighter.
- 46:47Close the quote. Still, Alan refreshed his email inbox, wondering
- 46:51am I about to be sacked? As the US Doge
- 46:55Service purged thousands of federal workers nationwide. Cybersecurity specialist at
- 47:01Tinker Air Force Base hurried to save copies of his
- 47:05government employment records. It seemed darkly absurd that he'd risk
- 47:10his life for his country. He thought, only to worry
- 47:13that some teenage Elon Musk surrogate might delete his training
- 47:17certificates while dumping him. Colleagues who'd been let go, he'd heard,
- 47:22were locked out of documents they needed for a job search.
- 47:25Quote they're treating us unquote, he said, quote like the
- 47:28bad guys unquote. He'd felt villainized enough when President Donald
- 47:33Trump derided those slated for firing as the quote deep
- 47:37state unquote, corrupt, incompetent, or unnecessary, and quote deliberately undermining
- 47:43democracy unquote. None of his co workers, he said, deserved
- 47:47those labels. Roughly forty two thousand federal workers are employed
- 47:50across this deeply conservative state, mainly here in Oklahoma City.
- 47:56They guide the form weary at the IRS. They tracked
- 47:59tornadoes at now National Weather Service. They run air traffic
- 48:02schools for the FAA. They repair KC one five Strato
- 48:06tankers for the Pentagon. Many are veterans. Many understand they
- 48:11could earn more in the private sector. Many take pride
- 48:14in serving a community that suffered the deadliest homegrown terrorist
- 48:18attack in American history, one spawned by animosity to government,
- 48:23but managed to rebuild. Timothy McVeigh had slammed quote federal
- 48:28agents unquote as the quote enemy unquote in a prison
- 48:32letter explaining why he detonated a truck full of explosives
- 48:36outside the Alfred P. Mora Federal building, killing one hundred
- 48:41and sixty eight Oklahomas and wounding hundreds more. The White
- 48:45House's tone as registered as alarming to some who remember
- 48:49the nineteen ninety five bombing, quote, we have a scar
- 48:52in our downtown unquote, said the city's Republican mayor, David Holt.
- 48:56Quote that should serve as a reminder of what occurred
- 49:00when you go down this path of dehumanization close the quote.
- 49:08Most of today's anti government r is aimed at quote
- 49:11DC swamp creatures unquote, as some DOGE fans have disparaged them.
- 49:17But most of the federal workforces scattered around the United States.
- 49:20Defense and FAA employees are quote highly valued unquote pillars
- 49:25of Oklahoma City's economy. Holt said they frequent restaurants, go shopping,
- 49:31and buy homes. They've helped stanched the brain drain plaguing
- 49:35other mid sized cities, which makes it all the more concerning.
- 49:38The mayor said that Trump and Must don't seem to
- 49:41grasp their value. Quote They're focused on what should be
- 49:46seen as unquestionable priorities unquote. Hote said of the city's
- 49:50federal workers, quote the nation's defense and fight and flight
- 49:54safety close the quote. Thus far, DOGE has slashed Oklahoma
- 49:59based jobs at the FAA, IRS and Agriculture Department. Union
- 50:04leaders said, though the tally isn't yet clear, as reports
- 50:08spread this week that Seville Defense Department rolls could vanish. Next,
- 50:13Governor Kevin Stitt pledged to help those laid off, adding
- 50:17quote that's part of life unquote. Again, an Oklahoma native
- 50:21in his forties who describes himself as quote politically middle
- 50:24of the road unquote, spoke on the condition that he
- 50:27be identified by his middle name because he is not
- 50:30authorized to speak to the press and fears retaliation. The
- 50:34Post has reviewed his government and military records to confirm
- 50:37his identity. Quote. Most of us are on board with
- 50:41trimming the bloat or getting rid of fraud or waste unquote.
- 50:44Alan said, quote it's the lack of basic decency that
- 50:48infuriates me, the demonizing unquote. Across the street from where
- 50:53the Murrah Building imploded, the Oklahoma City National Memorial Museum
- 50:57parish portraits of the dead with some of their belong
- 51:01There's Mickey B. Moroney, a fifty year old Secret Service agent,
- 51:04and his decorative rock that asked, quote, what would Jesus do? Unquote.
- 51:09There's Norma Jean Johnson, the sixty two year old executive
- 51:13secretary for the Defense Investigation Services Investigative Services, and her
- 51:18toy pony she'd loved attending her grandson's horse shows there's
- 51:22four year old Ashley Meghan Eccles, immortalized by her pink
- 51:26dress up heels, who trailed her grandparents into the Sole
- 51:29Security office when the bomb exploded. Quote. These were people
- 51:34just going about their day unquote, said Carrie Watkins, the
- 51:37museum's executive director, not avatars for the quote big bad
- 51:42government unquote. Reflecting on the tragedy feels urgents, he said,
- 51:46as fed bashing has gotten healed, quote, time for it
- 51:50to die unquote. Musk posted on x as his acolytes
- 51:54began shuddering a foreign aid department employing thousands a registered
- 51:58Republican Watchlkins agrees with pushing to zapp fraud and waste,
- 52:03but anti government sentiments have only spread since the massacre.
- 52:07Extremism analyst warm Gentler dialogue she felt could prevent more pain.
- 52:14The carefully non partisan Memorial Museum urges guests to remember
- 52:18we're all human. Trump and Musk and anyone else Watkins
- 52:22dress are invited to come take a tour. They might
- 52:25pause at Echo's pink heels. They might see a displayed
- 52:29couple of a nineteen seventy eight displayed copy of a
- 52:32nineteen seventy eight novel that imagine self described patriots opposed
- 52:37to quote corruption unquote setting off a bomb in the
- 52:40US capital. Excerpts were found in the back of the
- 52:43bay's getaway car. Quote they can hide behind the concrete
- 52:47walls and alarm systems of their country estates unquote, the
- 52:51author wrote of bureaucrats. Quote, but we can still find
- 52:54them and kill them. Quote. We all have a responsibility
- 52:58to be respectful unquote, Watkins said across town at a
- 53:02union office neighboring Tinker Air Force Base, Brenda Williams didn't
- 53:07feel the respect there. She sat behind her wooden desk,
- 53:11sweating the fate of some eighteen thousand civilian staffers. Her
- 53:15union represented many of Oklahoma's largest single site employer. Lucky
- 53:20for her, she'd retired from the federal government in September,
- 53:23about four decades, after four decades managing employee payments in
- 53:27her last row for the Defense Department. Unlucky for her,
- 53:31as a part time union stewart for the American Federation
- 53:35of Government Employees, she was now coaching confused masses bracing
- 53:39for layoffs. The union had heard hundreds were vulnerable at Tinker. Quote.
- 53:45All this uncertainty end quote, she said, quote is driving
- 53:48people crazy. End quote. Williams had been home on bedrest,
- 53:51about to give birth to her youngest daughter when mcveigh's
- 53:55bomb exploded, shaking her house and cutting her power. These days,
- 54:00she said, even driving by the memorial makes her choke up.
- 54:04Oklahoma City had pulled together after the attack, publicly honoring
- 54:09the victims and their roles in the federal workforce. Nearly
- 54:12thirty years later, she cherishes the memory of that solidarity.
- 54:17Now clips were everywhere. A musk on stage as a
- 54:19conservative at a conservative conference, raising a chainsaw, he declared
- 54:23was quote for bureauxy unquote. Down the beige hall of
- 54:28Local nine to sixteen passed a sign that said, quote
- 54:31pray for the dead and fight like hell for the
- 54:32living unquote. Rick Stuart's phone was ringing and ringing. As
- 54:36union vice president, he was responsible for helping Tinker employees
- 54:40apply for retirement. Some, he observed, were maybe about to
- 54:43quote get screwed unquote. A Trump voter, Stuart agreed with
- 54:47most of the president's agenda, especially his cause to secure
- 54:51the southern border. Quote to me, it came down to
- 54:54bad for the union unquote, he explained. Or quote will
- 54:59we still have a freaking country unquote. Shrinking bureaucratic flab
- 55:04was a noble goal, he thought, But the way Trump
- 55:06was going about it quote like a bull in a
- 55:08china shop unquote, he said. A tinker civilian staffer himself
- 55:12for thirty three years, Stewart had labored as a welder
- 55:15and on plane engines until his body could no longer
- 55:18handle it. He'd devised folks not to accept Trump's fork
- 55:22in the road resignation deal. Unknowingly, they might have disqualified
- 55:26themselves from retirement benefits, Stewart said, including health insurance coverage.
- 55:32He'd been disturbed then to learn terrorists. The terrorist was
- 55:36an ex soldier who had sent hate mail to the government.
- 55:40Military veterans were supposed to be heroes, Allan said both
- 55:43of the grandfathers, both of his grandfathers fought in World
- 55:46War Two. He wanted to be like them. During a
- 55:49tour in Syria, his team lost contact with a drone
- 55:52providing surveillance footage. No one could figure out how to
- 55:55fix it until a federal worker in Maryland remotely stepped in.
- 55:59This was when Allen knew what he wanted to do.
- 56:01After departing the Armed forces. Maybe Trump didn't understand the
- 56:06intricacies of their roles, he said, But taunting government employees
- 56:10in a way that encouraged others to pile on seemed risky,
- 56:14and I apologize. We'll end the article right there. There's
- 56:19only a two or three short paragraphs left. This concludes
- 56:24the reading of the Washington Post for today, Saturday, March one,
- 56:29twenty twenty five. Your reader today has been Mark Webster.
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