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Generational Cycles and Womb Healing, with Mama Mut Ra-t · Reiki Radio Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, beautiful alchemist. Welcome to Reiki Radio. I am your host, Yolanda,
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Speaker 1: and we are continuing the conversations with beautiful contributors to
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Speaker 1: the book Reiki, Heart and Soul, Many Stories, One Bright Light,
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Speaker 1: which is a compilation and anthology that was put together
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Speaker 1: by Mama Ifataio White. So we are going to speak
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Speaker 1: today to Mama mut Ra'at and she is a dedicated
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Speaker 1: advocate for women's wellness and empowerment with a rich background
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Speaker 1: and holistic self care and community support. She is raised
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Speaker 1: in a nurturing environment surrounded by strong women. You are
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Speaker 1: going to hear all about her journey and how she
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Speaker 1: deepened her understanding through rights of passage with Queen Afua
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Speaker 1: and ancient practices with the Shrine of Kephira. As a doula,
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Speaker 1: she witnessed firsthand the profound impact of self care and
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Speaker 1: communal support on women's health. And she was inspired by
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Speaker 1: the book called The Red Tint and now through her
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Speaker 1: work and supported by other womb keepers, she has written
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Speaker 1: a book and focuses on helping women heal through pink, red,
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Speaker 1: and purple tints. Her mission is to transform homes into
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Speaker 1: moon lodges where women and girls are supported by their
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Speaker 1: families as wombkeepers, fostering a culture of open communication and
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Speaker 1: holistic care. She is committed to spreading this practice globally
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Speaker 1: through her writings, consultations, and community facilitation. You will hear
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Speaker 1: some incredible insights through her story. I really really appreciated
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Speaker 1: all that she did share, but I think this message
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Speaker 1: is important for all people. You know, when we hear
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Speaker 1: about womb work, and we hear about I guess even
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Speaker 1: the you know, turning our homes into moon lodges, there's
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Speaker 1: an assumption that this work is focused only to women
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Speaker 1: who are experiencing cycles or going through menopause. But the
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Speaker 1: truth is, and you'll learn her from her, that this
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Speaker 1: work is really for all people and why it's important
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Speaker 1: that all of us understand just all of this, all
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Speaker 1: of this work. It's so incredible, so I hope you
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Speaker 1: enjoy it again. Her name is Mama moot Raat and
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Speaker 1: you can find out more about her work at Cycle
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Speaker 1: breakin womb keepers dot com. The link is down in
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Speaker 1: the show description and I will see you on the
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Speaker 1: other side. Okay, everyone, we are here today with Mama
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Speaker 1: moot Raat, and I am so thankful that we get
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Speaker 1: to have this conversation. Another beautiful contributor to the book
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Speaker 1: that was put together this anthology by Mama Ifatio, Ricky
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Speaker 1: Hart and Soul Many Stories, One Bright Light. So thank
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Speaker 1: you for taking time to have the conversation today.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for inviting me.
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Speaker 1: Yes, well, I was telling you before we started recording,
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Speaker 1: how beautiful your work is, especially reading your story in
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Speaker 1: the book, and how I wish I had known of
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Speaker 1: your work, especially as a younger woman. And we're going
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Speaker 1: to get all into that. But before we do. Your
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Speaker 1: story in the book, you named it the Journey of
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Speaker 1: a generational cycle Breaker, and I thought that was such
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Speaker 1: a beautiful title. And you start off by acknowledging your
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Speaker 1: parents and the fact that they still live within you.
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Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you about how early life
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Speaker 1: may have shaped where you are now, the work that
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Speaker 1: you're doing now, and how you recognize yourself as being
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Speaker 1: a cycle breaker.
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Speaker 2: M When I think about I'm trying to see how
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Speaker 2: far I want to go back. When I think about,
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Speaker 2: you know, my life in New Orleans with my parents,
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Speaker 2: you know, being the middle child of six. We all
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Speaker 2: have separate stories that re experience, and the one that
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Speaker 2: I experienced with my parents was that, you know. My
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Speaker 2: father was a fisherman. He used to love to take
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Speaker 2: us fishing, all six of us, you know, on the weekends.
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Speaker 2: And the preparation alone was so intense for me, you know,
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Speaker 2: to pack up all the different items that he needed.
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Speaker 2: But my father was like a hands on type of father.
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Speaker 2: He didn't mind. He was like all into it with
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Speaker 2: all of us, telling us to be quiet, get this,
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Speaker 2: get back, and given orders when I enjoyed that. And
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Speaker 2: he's also he was a theanoist, so he used to
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Speaker 2: sit me on his lap and play the piano, you know,
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Speaker 2: and just you know, be involved like that. And my
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Speaker 2: mother was if she was a mom. She was always
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Speaker 2: preparing the foo food and doing our hair, and I
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Speaker 2: remember her little fingers used to ramp up from breaking
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Speaker 2: out here, but she would do it anyway, and you know,
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Speaker 2: just being present and nurturing us in the ways that
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Speaker 2: she could. And then I remember the days when she
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Speaker 2: was sick, you know, and I would see the ambulance.
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Speaker 2: I was, you know, fatigue is short. I would see
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Speaker 2: the ambulance coming, you know, with the lights and everything
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Speaker 2: and take her and taking her out of the house.
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Speaker 2: And but the days in New Orleans was so beautiful.
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Speaker 2: You know, I felt so free, you know, being an
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Speaker 2: age of four or five six, I remember running outside
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Speaker 2: beer foot the you know, loving the outside. I guess
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Speaker 2: that's probably why I can't do the winters now, because
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Speaker 2: I didn't need a lot of clothes on. I don't
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Speaker 2: remember wearing a cold of New Orleans. And it was
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Speaker 2: always that energy of the elements that really kept us
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Speaker 2: with so much joy and laughing no matter what, you know,
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Speaker 2: So that stayed with me as my you know, my
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Speaker 2: life changed when my mother passed away at eight. You know,
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Speaker 2: my grandmother came from Brooklyn to my mother's funeral, and
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Speaker 2: she she changed my life. She came, my grandmother on
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Speaker 2: my mother's side. She came at my mother's funeral, and
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Speaker 2: she took the three girls and left the boys with
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Speaker 2: my father, you know, and you know it was this
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Speaker 2: and I'm the only picture I have on my child,
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Speaker 2: myself as a child, is at my mother's funeral. They
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Speaker 2: took me outside and I had on a slip and
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Speaker 2: I was just standing in the sign. You could I
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Speaker 2: can see the glow on my face, not knowing what
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Speaker 2: was happening next. And then you know, coming to Brooklyn
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Speaker 2: from New Orleans and living in an apartment, and my
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Speaker 2: grandmother's way of life is totally different, you know. My
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Speaker 2: grandmother and my two aunts on Brooklyn Avenue in Brooklyn,
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Speaker 2: and the lifestyle was so different. My grandmother was into
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Speaker 2: the church. She went to church off. Then we went
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Speaker 2: to church all during the week on a week kends,
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Speaker 2: and we had a lot of restrictions and dudes and don'ts.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, what what what? Yeah? What is this?
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Speaker 2: So I cried many times, you know, and that not
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Speaker 2: having any closure about what was going on, not being
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Speaker 2: asked how I felt about things. I grew up with
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Speaker 2: a lot of anger, you know, angry at God, angry
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Speaker 2: at my parents for you know, for not being not living,
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Speaker 2: you know, just a lot of questions unanswered on grief
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Speaker 2: and that marinated in my life growing up, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then have getting a call. I think I was
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Speaker 2: like fifteen or sixteen when we got a call that
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Speaker 2: my father was was dead and buried. Because I didn't
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Speaker 2: have no contact with my father from the time I
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Speaker 2: left at my mother's funeral, So that was another thing.
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Speaker 2: Another thing. I was like, Oh my God, just don't
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Speaker 2: get no better than this. Why you know. So another
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Speaker 2: thing that really drove that questioning within myself and I
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Speaker 2: had to work through all of it. Right. Oh but
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Speaker 2: being at my grandmother kept us in the church, which
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Speaker 2: I didn't like. I didn't like the restriction and stuff
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Speaker 2: like that. I learned. You know, after a while, I
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Speaker 2: had said to my grandmother, you know, don't baptize me again.
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Speaker 2: I don't need it. And you know, I'm like, don't
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Speaker 2: let me stay on my knees. I don't need it.
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Speaker 2: And they was like a spiritual Baptist and it was like,
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Speaker 2: oh God, they had to carry me. And I was
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Speaker 2: very rebellious, so they had to get the devil out
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Speaker 2: of me and all this stuff. And I felt like
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Speaker 2: I had my relationship with God was not the thear God, right,
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Speaker 2: you know, and it's something in me just knew I
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Speaker 2: didn't need all of that. I was good, but you know,
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Speaker 2: my grandmother saw it as a rebellion. But to make
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Speaker 2: a long story short, I learned so much with how
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Speaker 2: I was all my I always said my life the
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Speaker 2: spirit God, it spirit driven because everything that I went
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Speaker 2: through in my life and all the questioning and things
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Speaker 2: like that, it opened doors for me to get some outlet,
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Speaker 2: an outlet of peace, an outlet of wanting to know
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Speaker 2: God for myself, you know. And I've always felt like
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Speaker 2: a free spirit. I didn't need all of that. It
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Speaker 2: was always good. I had a relationship with God. I
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Speaker 2: had a relationship regard of my understanding that I needed
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Speaker 2: to define comfort, and through that I attracted people that
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Speaker 2: was not family that always poured into me. Women. You know,
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Speaker 2: my friends. Parents would always you know, sit and I
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Speaker 2: call them my bonus parents. You know. They would nurture
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Speaker 2: me in ways that my grandmother Clinton, you know, and
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Speaker 2: all most of mine growing up years has always been
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Speaker 2: somebody outside the family that nurtured me in ways that
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Speaker 2: I needed it. So I always got what I needed.
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Speaker 2: And then hm hm. The next step was when my
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Speaker 2: my grandmother had moved us from Brooklyn to back down
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Speaker 2: South my last year of high school twelfth grade, because
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Speaker 2: we was put out of the church because my my sister,
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Speaker 2: because of my sister and her relationship with the pastor's son,
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Speaker 2: we was put out of the church. My grandmother out
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Speaker 2: of Shane moved us from Brooklyn back to Georgia in
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Speaker 2: my twelfth year of high school. That was another thing
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Speaker 2: I had to work through. So I decided to you know,
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Speaker 2: to give my grandmother the blessings and worked that last
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Speaker 2: year and moved back to Brooklyn, you know, and we
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Speaker 2: and we and gave my grandmother all the blessings for
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Speaker 2: all she did for me. But I would no longer
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Speaker 2: be able to you know, stay with her. I wanted
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Speaker 2: to move forward with my life. So that was a
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Speaker 2: really big step for myself. And so I graduate from
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Speaker 2: high school. My grandmother did not come. I made my dress.
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Speaker 2: My grandmother was. She taught us how to sew. She
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Speaker 2: made everything we wore, you know, being in the church,
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Speaker 2: she wore. She made all the clothing and we wore.
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Speaker 2: We had to wear long skirts, longsley shirts, only gray,
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Speaker 2: black and and you know, common colors like that, nothing bright.
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Speaker 2: And so that was the first step of me taking
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Speaker 2: back my freedom. Is like on be laving myself at
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Speaker 2: my grandmother's house and going back to Brooklyn and live
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Speaker 2: with my aunt. So did you see how my life
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Speaker 2: this was, you know, really on Godi and give me
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Speaker 2: the strength to find a way to be more independent
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Speaker 2: and take more power back and live my life the
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Speaker 2: way I needed to.
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Speaker 1: Mama, And I have to say, there's so much with
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Speaker 1: what you just shared, one of the things that stands
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Speaker 1: out so loudly is the whole idea. You know, people
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Speaker 1: say God is within us, and you know, the recognition
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Speaker 1: of that is really the teaching of all of the
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Speaker 1: great work, is the realization of the divine as you are.
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Speaker 1: Your story highlights that also. I love how it highlights
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Speaker 1: the truth of it takes a village really truly. But
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Speaker 1: it also makes me so curious because listening to you
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Speaker 1: talk about growing up in New Orleans and your childhood
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Speaker 1: and how both of your parents were so present, and
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Speaker 1: there's like such a glow about you even when you
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Speaker 1: talk about how present and hands on they both were
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Speaker 1: in their own ways.
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Speaker 2: And in the.
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Speaker 1: Book you also talk about though, how they both then
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Speaker 1: became inspiration for how you turned to different aspects of healing.
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Speaker 1: So could you tell us a little bit about how
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Speaker 1: your mother and what she went through, how that highlighted
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Speaker 1: for you the need for womb work and self care
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Speaker 1: and then you father and the tie into relationships.
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Speaker 2: Yes, my mother first of all. You know, once I
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Speaker 2: so I did really be reaching out and asking for
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Speaker 2: help back in the day when self health came out.
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Speaker 2: I don't know when what year was that in the
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Speaker 2: eighties when self health came out, that rung a bell
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Speaker 2: in my head self help, I can help myself. I
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Speaker 2: didn't need my parents and my grandparents or anybody, right,
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Speaker 2: so I was I'm a tourist, aquarius, Aquarius. I've always
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Speaker 2: been like literally self taught with books on all of
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Speaker 2: these things, right, and I attracted the best teachers, and
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Speaker 2: I'm my spirit called out for help when I was
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Speaker 2: going through the dark Knight of the soul in my thirties,
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Speaker 2: like most people, you know, I thought I was like
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Speaker 2: thirty two minds, this is how it feels to die.
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Speaker 2: I really felt like my world was crashing because of
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Speaker 2: all the things that was going on. And I heard
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Speaker 2: a voice that said to me that I had had
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Speaker 2: to become a happy, health a happier, healthier parent. Wow.
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Speaker 2: And I looked around. I was like, I don't see anybody.
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Speaker 2: So I started writing down happy healthy parent and I
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Speaker 2: made that my email back in the day, and that
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Speaker 2: really drew to me all the things that I needed
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Speaker 2: to learn. My crime was like, please allow me to
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Speaker 2: find out what I need to help heal myself and
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Speaker 2: stay healthy because I felt like I was about to die.
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Speaker 2: You know, emotionally, spiritually and all of that, and that
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Speaker 2: a download of Happy Healthy Parent was a journey for
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Speaker 2: me to enter and more people came into my life.
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Speaker 2: More people came into my life. And one of the
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Speaker 2: books that I studied was Louise Hayes, and she talks
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Speaker 2: about the body and the emotional emotions that causes the
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Speaker 2: disease in the body. And when I look up hidney,
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Speaker 2: it really identified what my grandmother was going through. She
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Speaker 2: was away from her side of the family with my
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Speaker 2: father's side of her family and having baby after baby,
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Speaker 2: you know, and each child, you know, weaken her body system.
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Speaker 2: You know her kidneys, and kidneys represent isolation. It was
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Speaker 2: I can't remember all the details, but this Kidney's told
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Speaker 2: you that her body was crying out emotionally for loneliness, shame.
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Speaker 2: You know. She she had issues with her mother, which
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Speaker 2: I didn't know I had a grandmother until she came
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Speaker 2: from my mother's funeral. So you could tell there was
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Speaker 2: a disconnect between that, and later on I found out why,
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Speaker 2: you know why it was the disconnect and I see
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Speaker 2: that as mother and daughter relationships. After having three sons,
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Speaker 2: I had a daughter. So my mother's story, I was like, Mom.
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Speaker 2: After a while, I got tired of being angry and
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Speaker 2: I started looking at talking to her picture before the
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Speaker 2: movie Coco came out, and I was like, you're gonna
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Speaker 2: know what I'm I'm going through. I'm gonna tell you everything.
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Speaker 2: And in doing so, I fact this connection with her
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Speaker 2: that we would talk about. I would talk out loud
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Speaker 2: about what I was going through, and I could feel
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Speaker 2: the comfort, you know. So I learned through my mom
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Speaker 2: that I had to honor my steps as a mother
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Speaker 2: take care of my wound. I attracted Queen of Four
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Speaker 2: and I did rice and passes with Queen of Four
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Speaker 2: attracted Yalla Van, saying I did tapping the power within
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Speaker 2: and and empowerment with her, and she really I still
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Speaker 2: hold on to the affirmation of words. You see, I'm
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Speaker 2: always posting things about the word and and And she
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Speaker 2: taught me that she had this diagram where watch it thinking,
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Speaker 2: because your thinking be becomes your character and all that
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Speaker 2: and becomes your destiny. And I really died into that,
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Speaker 2: you know. And Queena four taught me that my wound
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Speaker 2: was sacred. I could finally talk about my wound as
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Speaker 2: being sacred. I'm like, what I you know, my body
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Speaker 2: was sacred, even my vagina. I was like what, and
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Speaker 2: she was like, take a marror and look down there
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Speaker 2: before we went in. And I was like what. And
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Speaker 2: it really brought me joy and knowing that my body
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Speaker 2: was sacred, you know. And then I started, you know,
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Speaker 2: using the tools that she gave me, and it reminded
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Speaker 2: me my great grandmother ways, my great grandmother. She was
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Speaker 2: like a medicine woman. She had all the natural remedies,
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Speaker 2: and she loved her bathroom and her baths and his tools,
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Speaker 2: and she had the Roman therapy with the central oils,
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Speaker 2: and and I'm a bag and a bathroom. I'm like, Grandma.
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Speaker 2: I feel like now I'm living my grandmother's ways, you know,
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Speaker 2: my great my great grandmother. So all of that came
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Speaker 2: to a part to me, and I loved that I
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Speaker 2: was able to heal myself with fib words. I had
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Speaker 2: a bad, bad miscarriage, have five boys that pushed and
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Speaker 2: grew and pushed the feetus out, and that was all
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Speaker 2: all the miscarriage was so oh my god, I can't
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Speaker 2: even think about it. When I think about, I to
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Speaker 2: feel all the things that I went through with that miscarriage.
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Speaker 2: And so I learned how to you know, really connect
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Speaker 2: with my wound and heal my wound of five boys
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Speaker 2: and really no how every month on my second time,
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Speaker 2: I used to take off Ebby to day's you know, uh,
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Speaker 2: and I really dived into the whole wound wellness connection
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Speaker 2: with myself.
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Speaker 1: This is what I want to ask you, but I
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Speaker 1: want to make sure we really get into this because
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Speaker 1: I told you again at the beginning. Man, I wish
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Speaker 1: I knew you when I was younger, but Mama moved.
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Speaker 1: So just this journey was, you know, your mother, she
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Speaker 1: had these health issues and passed when you were so young,
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Speaker 1: you were only eight years old. And then fast forward,
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Speaker 1: you know you as a young woman, early thirties, you
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Speaker 1: go through a divorce. At that point, you had four children,
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Speaker 1: you had three boys and a girl, and you're going
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Speaker 1: through your dark knight of the soul. And it's so
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Speaker 1: interesting how things come back around. So this is this
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Speaker 1: you hearing this voice tell you, you know, be a happy,
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Speaker 1: healthy parent, and you start diving into all of this,
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Speaker 1: you know, trying to understand even what your mom went
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Speaker 1: through all these years later, since eight years old to
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Speaker 1: like now your early thirties, right, and it's wild to
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Speaker 1: hear how you know, they say, like the pain will
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Speaker 1: often like crack us open. Yeah, and so like it
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Speaker 1: just came to a head and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden you start searching and seeking, and now you're studying
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Speaker 1: with these amazing women. You mentioned the movie Coco, that's
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Speaker 1: the one that has the like the Mexican tradition of dan.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you had a ancesties. Yes, yes, yes, I was
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Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, but so all of this.
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Speaker 1: Again, think of all these years later after losing both
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Speaker 1: of your parents and now you're on this healing journey,
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Speaker 1: recognizing your body is sacred and having this realization that
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Speaker 1: your grandmother was practicing in some ways these things you
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Speaker 1: were now learning from other women. That's incredible.
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Speaker 2: So this womb work could you you told us about obviously,
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Speaker 2: I mean I can't imagine, you know, the miscarriage and
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Speaker 2: what that does to women emotionally, mentally, all these different things,
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Speaker 2: and then to come back around to now honoring the
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Speaker 2: womb space where a lot of people end up having
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Speaker 2: so much story and upset at their bodies because of
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Speaker 2: what has gone through. So could you talk to us
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Speaker 2: about this importance of the womb and the womb work
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Speaker 2: that really highlighted for you because with everything you went through,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really interesting that this was the piece
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Speaker 2: that you have to stay with me. Oh, it's so important,
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Speaker 2: you know. And even though I used to be a duela,
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Speaker 2: right I I quit my job. I got laid off
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and they asked, you know, who wanted
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Speaker 2: to be layoff of who wants to move on? And
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Speaker 2: I've raised both hands. I was ready to get out
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Speaker 2: of there. And after I got laid off and released
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Speaker 2: the job in corporate America, I got into what I
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Speaker 2: wanted to really want to do, and one thing I
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Speaker 2: wanted to do was stay with supporting women with healings.
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Speaker 2: I became a douela and back then the word had
21:43
Speaker 2: just came out again and people with my my friends,
21:46
Speaker 2: she used to she started the duela business in her
21:50
Speaker 2: home and I used to babysit for her and cook
21:53
Speaker 2: for her. And I used to babysit for hers because
21:56
Speaker 2: she used to make healthy meals and I used to
21:59
Speaker 2: exchanged with saying meals and stuff like that. But when
22:03
Speaker 2: she was writing up the program for the duelers, she
22:06
Speaker 2: kept adding things on and I was like, wait a minute,
22:09
Speaker 2: this for doula means what it means supporting women. In
22:13
Speaker 2: my head, I was like, I already know how to
22:15
Speaker 2: support women. I remember my grandmother and my two aunts.
22:19
Speaker 2: They were like backstreet midwives. They did everything support women, please.
22:24
Speaker 2: They used to nurture women after you know, do basically
22:30
Speaker 2: the what do you call abortion duelers, death duelers whatever.
22:34
Speaker 2: My aunts and my grandmother, it was hands on in
22:38
Speaker 2: the community. They did everything, you know, when it comes
22:41
Speaker 2: down to community service. I was like, I already know
22:42
Speaker 2: how to support women. Why do I have need to
22:45
Speaker 2: have a certificate. So I advertised myself as being a doula.
22:48
Speaker 2: And even during the certification, I had to go to
22:53
Speaker 2: certain people house and get credits and stuff like that.
22:56
Speaker 2: I will go to people houses outside about race and
23:00
Speaker 2: they would give me a list of things to do
23:01
Speaker 2: so they can take care of themselves and I can
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Speaker 2: hold it down for them. When I go to our
23:06
Speaker 2: people house, they was like, no, I got it. I
23:10
Speaker 2: got it. It's okay. They didn't know how to receive help,
23:14
Speaker 2: you know. And I was like wow. And even when
23:18
Speaker 2: I was a doula, it's you know, a lot of
23:22
Speaker 2: the women they you know, they will forget when it
23:26
Speaker 2: came time, we would do the birth on the Birthen
23:29
Speaker 2: plan and stuff like that. But when the pain came,
23:31
Speaker 2: they it went out the window and they would listen
23:34
Speaker 2: to the doctors and wind up having a C section.
23:36
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, and then calling
23:40
Speaker 2: for when they in labor it will take days. And
23:45
Speaker 2: I remember the last delivery. I was like, I can't
23:48
Speaker 2: do this sleeping. I need to sleep, you know. I
23:51
Speaker 2: had to call for backup and things like that. So
23:53
Speaker 2: I was like, no, this is not gonna work. Then
23:57
Speaker 2: I came up for us this book a sister friend
24:00
Speaker 2: of mine, she was doing a red tant and I
24:03
Speaker 2: came across the book the Red Tent and they talked
24:06
Speaker 2: about women leading together and coming in community and sharing
24:11
Speaker 2: their medicine and the stories and helping other women to heal.
24:15
Speaker 2: And I was like, Wow, we're not going to come
24:18
Speaker 2: together and bleed together. That's not back late. But we
24:21
Speaker 2: can turn our home into a moonlaws that's key if
24:25
Speaker 2: we can help women. And I started thinking about how
24:28
Speaker 2: when I was in corporate America, how I took off
24:30
Speaker 2: the first two days of my cycle, and how I felt,
24:33
Speaker 2: you know, my sons were older. I taught them how
24:36
Speaker 2: to cook and clean and everything. So I said, listen,
24:38
Speaker 2: mommy's on her cycle. You're going to take over and
24:41
Speaker 2: take here the house and serve me. And it was
24:44
Speaker 2: such a benefit for me to do that because every
24:47
Speaker 2: time my cycles was less and less, I was stronger.
24:51
Speaker 2: Even when I went back to work, there was like, oh,
24:53
Speaker 2: you called them sick, look at you going. I was like, yes,
24:56
Speaker 2: that's my selfier days. But I was that's it. If
25:01
Speaker 2: I can help women how to take care of themselves
25:04
Speaker 2: on their cycle time every month, they can give birth
25:08
Speaker 2: to anything. I had two clients, one that helped me
25:15
Speaker 2: to ask me to work with them from the time
25:17
Speaker 2: they say they want to get pregnant, they got married,
25:21
Speaker 2: and they we worked through things that they had to
25:24
Speaker 2: untapped up until the time they gave birth, and then
25:27
Speaker 2: they had a home birth. It was so beautiful. It
25:30
Speaker 2: was prepared. So this thing that I'm teaching now that
25:35
Speaker 2: turn your home to moonlars teaching women how to live
25:39
Speaker 2: by the seasons every season. We go through every season,
25:43
Speaker 2: all all four seasons, every month. If they only pay
25:48
Speaker 2: attention to the fall in the winter seasons, the springs
25:52
Speaker 2: in the summer weeks, it's going to be more of
25:56
Speaker 2: their lifestyle than fall and winter. It applies to every women,
26:01
Speaker 2: whether they bleeding or on menopause. So that's what that
26:08
Speaker 2: was the thing that helped me to understand how we
26:12
Speaker 2: can My mother's story can be a different story for
26:16
Speaker 2: a lot of women if they take care of themselves
26:19
Speaker 2: every month on their cycle time.
26:21
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you're saying this is really interesting,
26:24
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask you about this too, because
26:27
Speaker 1: you mentioned in the book creating the moon lodge even
26:31
Speaker 1: in your own house and with your grandchildren and your
26:34
Speaker 1: daughter in laws now and everything. But also the red,
26:37
Speaker 1: the pink, the purple, and the blue tints. So we're
26:39
Speaker 1: going to get to that too. But with what you're
26:42
Speaker 1: saying in terms of our cycles and going through every
26:46
Speaker 1: season every month, there's a couple of things coming to mind.
26:50
Speaker 1: One with what you teach, it sounds like at a
26:56
Speaker 1: foundational level, it helps women learn how to be in
26:59
Speaker 1: better relationship up with ourselves, like how to acknowledge ourselves,
27:04
Speaker 1: being connection to ourselves, and instead of maybe fighting and
27:09
Speaker 1: being angry at the bodies, learning how to take care
27:13
Speaker 1: of our bodies while they're going through this so fascinating.
27:17
Speaker 1: So really, it sounds like there is no off time
27:23
Speaker 1: in terms of us caring for ourselves right, not only
27:27
Speaker 1: getting when something's off.
27:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, could you talk about what that how that helps
27:34
Speaker 2: us heal?
27:34
Speaker 1: On so many levels, this this self connection and awareness.
27:40
Speaker 2: We are so disconnected from ourselves, the society, and the
27:44
Speaker 2: world and even my parents. Me and my girlfriend of
27:47
Speaker 2: over sixty years, because she was one of my best
27:50
Speaker 2: for instance, since I came to New York at ten
27:52
Speaker 2: years old, and we talked about how our parents couldn't
27:56
Speaker 2: They didn't. They were so busy in survival, moll they
27:59
Speaker 2: didn't have time to talk about self care. That's the
28:02
Speaker 2: only thing they didn't give us. They gave us so
28:05
Speaker 2: many other things. And like I said, my aunt and
28:07
Speaker 2: my heart, two sisters, we had everything in that package.
28:11
Speaker 2: We couldn't get away with nothing. They made our clothes,
28:14
Speaker 2: they did the shop. There was everything involved with everything
28:19
Speaker 2: but self care. Even my grandmother. I was able to
28:23
Speaker 2: really hold space and hear her wound this story and
28:27
Speaker 2: tell her and you were forgiven, my grandma, you don't
28:30
Speaker 2: have to hide behind the church. God forgave you. Forgive yourself.
28:33
Speaker 2: I was able to teach her how to pamper. I
28:36
Speaker 2: remember The first time I put her to her feet
28:39
Speaker 2: into one of those footobs to give her some relaxation
28:44
Speaker 2: with the foottops, she thought I was gonna electrocute her.
28:46
Speaker 2: She was afraid because she never felt that comfort before.
28:50
Speaker 2: I was like, Grandma, will never hurt you. And I
28:52
Speaker 2: would nurture and massage her feet and everything like that,
28:56
Speaker 2: and she would go straight to seat sleep. She had
28:59
Speaker 2: the men ya right, and my sister we would take
29:02
Speaker 2: turns with Grandma and they were center over to me.
29:05
Speaker 2: And then I'll send them a picture of Grandma's sleep,
29:07
Speaker 2: and they was like, how did you get grandma to sleep?
29:10
Speaker 2: Had gathered a lot of tools of self care when
29:13
Speaker 2: I was able to share with her. So we have
29:18
Speaker 2: to somehow find the time to sit with somebody that
29:22
Speaker 2: can help us to remember how to reconnect with ourselves
29:26
Speaker 2: because we had learned to give it all away. And
29:29
Speaker 2: then when our wounds start speaking to us loudly and
29:33
Speaker 2: screaming at us, droughing our cycle time, we be we
29:36
Speaker 2: be answering it back and oh no, I'm going to
29:38
Speaker 2: stop you up with paying killers and all of this
29:41
Speaker 2: and keeping going instead of allowing those symptoms to be
29:47
Speaker 2: our for more self love, for ourselves. You know, paying
29:51
Speaker 2: means pay attention and with now I got that from
29:55
Speaker 2: the yell Avance and I love the way she breaks
29:57
Speaker 2: words down and when we say okay, he means pay attention.
30:01
Speaker 2: And what now? What through this pain is asking me
30:04
Speaker 2: to do? Do I need rest? I need to be hydrated?
30:11
Speaker 2: Do I need some natural foods? And if we pay
30:17
Speaker 2: attention to the week before our cycle, which is our
30:19
Speaker 2: fall week, right, a lot of women have PMS and
30:24
Speaker 2: anxiety and all of this stuff, and some of them
30:26
Speaker 2: have a real, real bad until it's like mentally they
30:30
Speaker 2: are not able to ground themselves. Will not work with
30:34
Speaker 2: a women with that type of issue, and they focus
30:37
Speaker 2: on the fall week and give themself some rest, I
30:41
Speaker 2: give themselves some meditation, give themselves some ease up on
30:46
Speaker 2: their diet with heavy foods, and give themselves some juice,
30:48
Speaker 2: sing and lots of water, foods and soups and things
30:52
Speaker 2: like that, warm things. They find that every month it
30:56
Speaker 2: gets better. Within three months, they have a different cycle
31:02
Speaker 2: because the full time it's telling us bringing up all
31:06
Speaker 2: these things that we need to address. And sometimes it
31:08
Speaker 2: may be in our relationships. It may be in our
31:11
Speaker 2: relationship with ourself or our partners or our jobs, whatever
31:16
Speaker 2: that week, it's bringing those things up. And if we
31:19
Speaker 2: only journal them down and act ourselves Okay, what I
31:23
Speaker 2: need to release, you know, and what I need to
31:27
Speaker 2: replace it with for my own comfort. When you do
31:31
Speaker 2: that within three months every time, every time, my clients
31:34
Speaker 2: have a different testimony, the fact that's all I had
31:37
Speaker 2: to do. Wow, but give myself stop for us and
31:41
Speaker 2: give myself some attention and try to answer those things.
31:45
Speaker 2: That's best you can. If you keep doing this every
31:47
Speaker 2: month for years, you see that all of your challenge
31:52
Speaker 2: is not challenges anymore. You be looking forward to Okay,
31:55
Speaker 2: you come in what I need to do, and be
31:58
Speaker 2: true to yourself. And when you be true to yourself
32:03
Speaker 2: and use your voice, and you see how this makes
32:05
Speaker 2: it so easier. So when we want to create a baby,
32:09
Speaker 2: or a business or a new life, it becomes easier. Yeah,
32:15
Speaker 2: we face our fears. We not so bogged down with
32:18
Speaker 2: so many thoughts to be able to capture the thoughts
32:21
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, I know why this, I'm feeling this,
32:24
Speaker 2: this is coming up with me. I need to dress it.
32:27
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't have time to address it. I used
32:29
Speaker 2: to have this jar and when in my whole week,
32:32
Speaker 2: and things used to come up. It was called a
32:34
Speaker 2: dear God job. I will write them down. I'll put
32:37
Speaker 2: them in a dear job God job, and I will say, God,
32:40
Speaker 2: please hold that for me, you know, get it up
32:42
Speaker 2: my mind. Hold that for me, and you work it
32:44
Speaker 2: out so I could get it out my mind, so
32:48
Speaker 2: my mind became clearer. Put it somewhere. So little steps
32:52
Speaker 2: like that will help us to answer our wound instead
32:55
Speaker 2: of not answering it. But when you don't answer that,
32:58
Speaker 2: she will dress. She will scream at you. When you
33:02
Speaker 2: see clotting and and and hemorrhaging, she's screaming at you.
33:06
Speaker 2: She's not happy. Yeah, I seen it with my own body.
33:11
Speaker 2: I went from hemorhaging to you know, I was so
33:14
Speaker 2: upset when my my cycle changed into menopause. I was like,
33:18
Speaker 2: oh no, I wanted it to stay because I got
33:21
Speaker 2: so used to routine and beauty and ease. You know
33:25
Speaker 2: you're in my cycle, tope, like, don't go away from
33:28
Speaker 2: me please. And my friends just like, oh you're gonna
33:30
Speaker 2: get hot flashes, you're gonna get these things. I never
33:32
Speaker 2: got none of that because my thirties, my hoties got better.
33:37
Speaker 2: My fifties got better, so it just eased right into that.
33:41
Speaker 2: And then menopause is so you know, menopause means what
33:45
Speaker 2: more time to pause, more time to pause. That's the
33:50
Speaker 2: life of thriving. Okay, wait, I got a pause right there,
33:55
Speaker 2: because that's a couple of things. So one I I
34:00
Speaker 2: really really.
34:01
Speaker 1: Want to highlight so much of what you're saying because
34:03
Speaker 1: it's really powerful, and I think it's so important for
34:06
Speaker 1: us to hear and you talking about this. It's bringing
34:12
Speaker 1: to mind how powerful perspective is. And sometimes I think
34:17
Speaker 1: we don't realize how damaging our stories and just like
34:22
Speaker 1: the habitual like nature of you know, dreading our cycles coming,
34:28
Speaker 1: or the perspective we have like when we're pmsing there's
34:31
Speaker 1: already this this preconceived I think of even how society
34:36
Speaker 1: kind of feels all these labels on us. You agree
34:39
Speaker 1: in this, and you're crazy, you know, Yeah, But then.
34:43
Speaker 2: To stop and say, like, no, I'm not crazy, I'm
34:46
Speaker 2: not angry, I'm not upset. This is my time, like
34:49
Speaker 2: you say, to pause and look within and see what
34:54
Speaker 2: does my body need?
34:55
Speaker 1: What's going on? I need to slow down. My pain
34:59
Speaker 1: is telling me what I need to nourish myself. That
35:03
Speaker 1: perspective alone, just that switch is so powerful. I can't.
35:09
Speaker 1: I hope that the people listening are really really taking
35:14
Speaker 1: this in. And I say people, because you also talk
35:18
Speaker 1: about you know, your sons, and you even said, like
35:21
Speaker 1: when you know on your first couple of days, they would,
35:24
Speaker 1: you know, take over while you were taking care of
35:27
Speaker 1: yourself and before we get into the menopause and pausing
35:31
Speaker 1: more because I've said on the podcast, I'm in perimenopause
35:35
Speaker 1: and you saying you, I'm like, hurry up and be over.
35:39
Speaker 1: So it's interesting to hear you say like, no, I
35:41
Speaker 1: don't want it to be over, but I want to
35:43
Speaker 1: talk about the importance of men being in on this conversation.
35:49
Speaker 2: Soul, You're like embarrassed and keep it separate, don't want
35:54
Speaker 2: to talk to their sons or partners about their cycles
35:58
Speaker 2: on what they're going through.
35:59
Speaker 1: So could you talk about this the importance and what.
36:02
Speaker 2: You were Then I had a blessing of having three
36:05
Speaker 2: sons and their fathers just couldn't be fathers, and but
36:10
Speaker 2: they blessed me with the status of leaving me alone
36:15
Speaker 2: and allowing me to do that. And I prayed and
36:17
Speaker 2: I asked God. I'm like, oh my god, I have
36:19
Speaker 2: three sons. You bought three sons through my wounds. I
36:22
Speaker 2: don't know what they need. I need to attract men
36:26
Speaker 2: that would help my sons be men, my boys be men.
36:30
Speaker 2: When they came, the men in the community came forth
36:35
Speaker 2: and nurtured my oldest son and him in turn, you know,
36:39
Speaker 2: he was he rapped his two brothers and they really
36:42
Speaker 2: build together. They talk about everything together, and they still
36:45
Speaker 2: like the three mustageers right now. And but they are
36:50
Speaker 2: the best, you know, men for me. And they never
36:56
Speaker 2: gave me no problem, you know, and they've never been
36:59
Speaker 2: on the street, and they just listened to the things
37:02
Speaker 2: that I was able to offer them as their mother.
37:05
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, he had it so good with
37:08
Speaker 2: three sons. First. Then I went back and I asked
37:11
Speaker 2: for the girl. That's another chapter of my books. And
37:15
Speaker 2: did I get the girls? She sent me to all
37:17
Speaker 2: of these spiritual rooms that I'm learning now. I was like,
37:20
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm in trouble now. It's a big
37:23
Speaker 2: story having a girl after having three boys. Anyway, I'm
37:27
Speaker 2: not trying to stay on focused, but my sons, I'm
37:30
Speaker 2: telling you, when it came to me when I came
37:32
Speaker 2: around and they went through assessing my first son, he
37:36
Speaker 2: went through everything you need to first go through everything.
37:39
Speaker 2: He went through everything with me. He had the wild,
37:42
Speaker 2: crazy geraline, the angry geraline. You know. He saw me
37:48
Speaker 2: in so many phases of my life. And when I
37:51
Speaker 2: was going through my rites of passage, he was already gone.
37:55
Speaker 2: He was already out of the house with his life,
37:57
Speaker 2: work and stuff like that, and so he didn't see
38:01
Speaker 2: the transformation. The other two saw the transformation Mom, my
38:04
Speaker 2: second son. He said, Mom, you're the only person that
38:07
Speaker 2: I knew that I know that changed the whole entire life.
38:11
Speaker 2: He's he also saw the crazy general and I used
38:14
Speaker 2: to smoke and body all of that. I did it all,
38:17
Speaker 2: you know. And then he saw the return of self generalin.
38:22
Speaker 2: You know, he saw all the spiritual wounds I went
38:24
Speaker 2: in and he was, I call you like my next book.
38:27
Speaker 2: I talk about each one of them being a part
38:29
Speaker 2: of me. And my first son is my mind. He's
38:32
Speaker 2: my brain. His brain, Oh my gosh, the things that
38:35
Speaker 2: he create with his brain. And my second son, he's
38:38
Speaker 2: my spirit everything that every spiritual woman I want to
38:41
Speaker 2: He was like, I want that, I want that, I
38:43
Speaker 2: want that. And he's a tourist too, So he's like
38:45
Speaker 2: my the male version of me and my third son.
38:49
Speaker 2: He's my heart. He's a aries and he has the
38:53
Speaker 2: heart of bold. Oh my god, he's a dead dear friend.
38:57
Speaker 2: He would ride and die with you. But he's also
39:01
Speaker 2: he's fire. You don't play with that. He has a
39:06
Speaker 2: teenage daughter and the kids, the men, the boys on
39:09
Speaker 2: the street will not even date her. That's like, do
39:11
Speaker 2: you know who her father is? Don't talk, look at
39:16
Speaker 2: her and keep going, you know. So the value of
39:20
Speaker 2: the beauty of raising three sons and honey turned out
39:23
Speaker 2: to be such great men, each one of them. You know,
39:28
Speaker 2: I don't want but nothing. They have a tracker on
39:30
Speaker 2: me and everything. Oh and I'm so proud to say that.
39:36
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of women can't say that. I
39:37
Speaker 2: had three sons and they are priests, protect us and providers.
39:43
Speaker 1: You know.
39:44
Speaker 2: So for them the whole space for me when I
39:47
Speaker 2: needed when I asked him to, you know, because they know,
39:51
Speaker 2: they start to create. Like I said, they started craziness
39:53
Speaker 2: in me and all that, and they she said, Mom,
39:54
Speaker 2: please don't go there. Whatever we got to do, just
39:57
Speaker 2: tell us we don't go there. We'll talk about it.
39:59
Speaker 2: You know. They always been that type of suns. So
40:02
Speaker 2: for them holding space for me when I was going
40:06
Speaker 2: through my rights a passage, it was so beautiful, you know.
40:11
Speaker 2: And then I had a I had a two family
40:14
Speaker 2: house and their maids used to stay in the house
40:18
Speaker 2: and I used to work with them to turn our
40:20
Speaker 2: home into a mola so when the women in the
40:23
Speaker 2: house get on the cycle, they would be served. They
40:26
Speaker 2: didn't have to do anything. And my one of my sons,
40:29
Speaker 2: him and his maids used to always have arguments. And
40:32
Speaker 2: I used to say to him, what week is she?
40:33
Speaker 2: What's her season this week? And he was like, ma,
40:37
Speaker 2: it's a full season. I'm like, what you're supposed to do?
40:40
Speaker 2: I was supposed to hold her, not us with her,
40:43
Speaker 2: you know. And finally he got it, yes, But you know,
40:47
Speaker 2: it was rough for a while, you know. And when
40:51
Speaker 2: I hear them in a baby there was living in basement,
40:52
Speaker 2: I hear them. I was like, first I call him,
40:55
Speaker 2: I'm like, Canny, what week is it this week? And
40:57
Speaker 2: he's like, oh ma, he said, but I need this
41:01
Speaker 2: and I need that. You need something, you can't get
41:03
Speaker 2: it from her this week or next week. You gotta
41:07
Speaker 2: get somewhere else, you know. So this helped them to
41:12
Speaker 2: deepen their relationship, you know, and be mindful and when
41:16
Speaker 2: is the best week to talk to her and when
41:19
Speaker 2: is the best week to just hold space for her.
41:21
Speaker 2: So I've seen it. And all three of my daughter
41:24
Speaker 2: in laws are medicine women and now my grandbabies. And
41:28
Speaker 2: when I get down to my grandbabies. We used to
41:30
Speaker 2: have conversations in the house when my grandkids went through puberty, right,
41:34
Speaker 2: and I have a set of twin girl and boy twin.
41:37
Speaker 2: So when we talked about the cycles and everything, and
41:40
Speaker 2: my grandson was there, took he said, Grandma, did Malani
41:43
Speaker 2: have a cycle at thirteen? When do it stop? I'm like, well,
41:46
Speaker 2: she's in her horse. He said, no, forty years She'll
41:50
Speaker 2: believed it that. But I'm like, no, wha. We are
41:54
Speaker 2: very powerful. So having these conversations, I mean, and he
41:58
Speaker 2: will go he would take it friends that he would
42:00
Speaker 2: go to a target to get the past. He's like,
42:02
Speaker 2: I'm getting these past y'all. Da da da. He'd been like,
42:05
Speaker 2: make an announcement, so happy to serve. So that's that's
42:09
Speaker 2: the psycho breaking right there. Yes, you know, and then
42:13
Speaker 2: talk it to my eight year old grand babies. They
42:17
Speaker 2: ate now. One of them was talking about the body
42:19
Speaker 2: and the puberty. She's like grandma looking at money and
42:23
Speaker 2: Grandma she said, these these dress are gonna give me
42:26
Speaker 2: problems because she's tiny. Tinysh Peter. You know, I love
42:31
Speaker 2: these conversations, you know, the weirdness. I couldn't talk about
42:34
Speaker 2: my body, yes, with my grandma. She had too much trauma.
42:40
Speaker 2: You know, I wanted to talk about my body. I
42:43
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about sex. I want to talk about
42:45
Speaker 2: my body, but my grandmother has so much trauma that
42:49
Speaker 2: she would get so angry and cut me short and said,
42:52
Speaker 2: never use those words in my house. Right, so I
42:55
Speaker 2: had to snuff it and zip it.
42:58
Speaker 1: You know, it's so interesting you say this, mamaud, because
43:02
Speaker 1: it's coming to mind, how much trauma and just like
43:06
Speaker 1: you're saying, you read Louise Hayes work, you know, back
43:09
Speaker 1: in the day, but how much trauma is held in
43:12
Speaker 1: the body, and how much trauma you know, our mothers
43:16
Speaker 1: and grandmothers and you know, go all back through the
43:18
Speaker 1: lineage was held and a lot passed on plus then
43:23
Speaker 1: tap on how much we accumulate through our own life experience, right,
43:27
Speaker 1: but if we aren't taught to have these conversations, like
43:31
Speaker 1: these conversations you're having with your children and your grandchildren,
43:34
Speaker 1: if we aren't taught to be in right relationship with
43:38
Speaker 1: ourselves and not have shame about it, It's really interesting
43:41
Speaker 1: the impact the implication. How much would not just heal,
43:48
Speaker 1: but would change. I think a lot of the ways
43:50
Speaker 1: young people maybe carry themselves and respect and honor their
43:54
Speaker 1: own bodies, let alone other people's. And it just seems
43:59
Speaker 1: so important what you're saying.
44:03
Speaker 2: Even that's why you know, I'm a visionary and I'm
44:09
Speaker 2: always you know, I've just learned recently that you know
44:12
Speaker 2: my in calendar that I'm a white souln wizard, and
44:18
Speaker 2: that means that I dream a lot. I dream, I
44:22
Speaker 2: have dreams and visions, and I'm already in those visions,
44:26
Speaker 2: and I see. My My charge is to stop the
44:31
Speaker 2: me to movement through awareness and conversations in the homes.
44:38
Speaker 2: Because even now with my grandson seventeen more and today,
44:45
Speaker 2: you know, and what the world have shown them in
44:49
Speaker 2: social media and everything has shown them what sexuality is
44:52
Speaker 2: and what it is not right, you know, and my
44:55
Speaker 2: conversation with them in a home, they don't hear it
44:58
Speaker 2: outside with their friends, you know. I told him, I said,
45:00
Speaker 2: whenever you at seventeen, I'm thinking about my age when
45:04
Speaker 2: I was seventeen to twenty one. Your sexual energy is
45:07
Speaker 2: so strong, you know, it's so strong, and even before then, younger,
45:14
Speaker 2: your sexual energy, the energy is so powerful and so
45:17
Speaker 2: strong and too you feel like you've got to do
45:20
Speaker 2: something with it, you know. And when somebody brings that
45:25
Speaker 2: closeness to you, you think that's love, you know, because
45:29
Speaker 2: that energy is so strong. And when we have these
45:32
Speaker 2: conversations in the home and we're taught I've studied it
45:36
Speaker 2: dow of sexuality. We're taught that men they die every
45:41
Speaker 2: time they release, you know, and if they are taught
45:46
Speaker 2: to hold in and hold it in and nurture it
45:48
Speaker 2: from the end, we're taught we need to be taught
45:52
Speaker 2: the spiritual anatomy. That part. We know about the physical anatomy, yes,
45:57
Speaker 2: but the spiritual anatomy. We know how to channel that
46:00
Speaker 2: energy into creative energy. So my conversation with my teenage
46:04
Speaker 2: grands children is when you somebody approach you in it
46:09
Speaker 2: to connect with you physically, you got to think about
46:11
Speaker 2: what am I bill to create? Right this is creative energy.
46:17
Speaker 2: And how many households have this conversation, I don't mind.
46:21
Speaker 2: It ain't growing up, no, So it's to honor to
46:25
Speaker 2: bring this awareness to every household now and making this
46:30
Speaker 2: making planting the scene of curiosity for this to grow,
46:35
Speaker 2: because this is the only way we'll start the generational caing.
46:39
Speaker 1: Well, you've mentioned a little bit. You kind of mentioned
46:41
Speaker 1: it earlier your ebooks, So I do want to ask
46:44
Speaker 1: you about that because and I want to talk about
46:47
Speaker 1: the different ways people can work with you. But one
46:49
Speaker 1: of the ways you're sharing your work is through the ebooks,
46:52
Speaker 1: So could you tell us a little bit about those
46:54
Speaker 1: and where people can get them.
46:57
Speaker 2: Yes, the e book is it's about turning your home
47:00
Speaker 2: to a moone lodge, and it's coming out on a
47:01
Speaker 2: book book book form, and it's really it's a work book.
47:06
Speaker 2: Put everything in there, and now it's being upgraded. It's
47:13
Speaker 2: really going to make it easier for parents to just
47:16
Speaker 2: go and use it. And it has near the different sections.
47:20
Speaker 2: Red is for birth and women, Pink is for the
47:22
Speaker 2: young girls just coming into this cycle, all for women
47:26
Speaker 2: just coming to this awareness and want to celebrate themselves,
47:29
Speaker 2: and purple is for menopause, you know, and because it's
47:34
Speaker 2: not really the end of life, it's the beginning, a
47:37
Speaker 2: new beginning, a new way of listening to yourself and
47:40
Speaker 2: really leaning into what you want to experience. And then
47:45
Speaker 2: the blue is for the men in our lives that
47:48
Speaker 2: can hold space for us. But they also each one
47:51
Speaker 2: have to know in the book being taught and guide
47:54
Speaker 2: it to take care of yourself first from full cup,
47:57
Speaker 2: so you can share with others. So the men make
48:01
Speaker 2: it they can see that how caring for themselves is
48:05
Speaker 2: so necessary. When I talk to my my my bonus daughters,
48:10
Speaker 2: my daughter in laws, they talk about how they see
48:15
Speaker 2: my sons take care of themselves. They learned that they
48:18
Speaker 2: I was able to model that for them, and they
48:21
Speaker 2: put them bigger bigg into taking in the mid baths.
48:25
Speaker 2: And and my my daughter in law said, well, they
48:27
Speaker 2: put more cocoa butter on themselves than they do on me,
48:30
Speaker 2: you know, So they already into that for themselves first,
48:34
Speaker 2: and then they could share with you and teach you,
48:37
Speaker 2: you know. So this book is laid out, It's laid
48:40
Speaker 2: out how everybody can take care of themselves. And then
48:44
Speaker 2: listen to the voice of the wife of the woman
48:46
Speaker 2: of the house. When mommy's happy, everybody's happy. When mommy's
48:51
Speaker 2: not happy, you know, the whole house is in trouble.
48:55
Speaker 2: So this is the way that we honor the feminine
48:58
Speaker 2: aspect of all of us. And now, but everything happened
49:03
Speaker 2: in the world, we all are being full to soften
49:06
Speaker 2: and nurture ourselves war than ever before. Yes, so yes,
49:11
Speaker 2: you can get an e book form or you can
49:13
Speaker 2: get it in book form, but please get it. You
49:16
Speaker 2: get it into the home of the book. Do you
49:18
Speaker 2: have a turning your home into a moon lodge?
49:21
Speaker 1: Turning your home into a molage?
49:23
Speaker 2: Okay, when you think about a moon lodge, you think
49:25
Speaker 2: about your great great grandmother's home where everything is plant based,
49:32
Speaker 2: you know, and the aroma in the essence is from
49:36
Speaker 2: the flowers in from the earth, and it's soft, and
49:40
Speaker 2: it's it's cozy, and everything you need is in the house.
49:44
Speaker 2: Before we had doctors and all of these degrees, we
49:49
Speaker 2: had the Shamans. We had the medicine women. You know.
49:53
Speaker 2: I was telling the elder that the other day, and
49:55
Speaker 2: she's like, we are they now? I said, we are they.
49:59
Speaker 2: We are the Shamans, We are the medicine women. We
50:01
Speaker 2: are the priests. We are the protectors, were the providers,
50:05
Speaker 2: you know, So we have to really go inside and
50:08
Speaker 2: fill our costs. Speakers, we need it more than ever.
50:12
Speaker 2: We have to stay out of the hospitals. You know
50:16
Speaker 2: my other burgs. I don't know. I was young, but
50:18
Speaker 2: I knew the labor at home. I only went there
50:21
Speaker 2: in time to deliver. Yeah, we got to go back
50:24
Speaker 2: to that.
50:25
Speaker 1: Well, you do teach a lot about this too, and
50:28
Speaker 1: we didn't really get into email. You spoke a little
50:31
Speaker 1: bit about doing womb work, but what are the different
50:36
Speaker 1: modalities that you're teaching now that you're helping people learn.
50:40
Speaker 1: I know you teach reiki classes, but you also refer
50:43
Speaker 1: to yourself as a womb reiki master. So yeah, we
50:48
Speaker 1: can work with you.
50:49
Speaker 2: Oh Reggie reiki Reiki Reiki will expand whatever your designs are.
50:55
Speaker 2: And for me, you know, when I became a reiki
50:59
Speaker 2: student back in twenty seventeen and then the raky mass
51:03
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, I was thinking that the right all
51:06
Speaker 2: of this out used to come on downloads earlier, they
51:08
Speaker 2: got double downloaded for in fact, that's time. It's the
51:11
Speaker 2: same out of me. I was like, I used to
51:14
Speaker 2: you all feel a way because I didn't finish college
51:17
Speaker 2: and I was like I can't write, and this and
51:19
Speaker 2: that the other, all of that went out the window.
51:22
Speaker 2: Like they said, Reiki will take ex being the light
51:27
Speaker 2: in you, and all of those doubts and can't dos,
51:31
Speaker 2: they just don't matter anymore, you know I and I
51:34
Speaker 2: was able to, you know, really deep dive into what
51:37
Speaker 2: I wanted to offer, and I really want to offer
51:40
Speaker 2: on everyone the chance to connect with themselves. And we
51:45
Speaker 2: do that in several different ways. On Tuesday nights, we
51:47
Speaker 2: give a harder breathing class. And the harder it's just
51:51
Speaker 2: the point below your neighbor. It's the center of your claw.
51:56
Speaker 2: It's in your womb. Yes, it's in your womb, and
51:59
Speaker 2: just by breathing into that space, you can just soften
52:03
Speaker 2: and release all of those trauma memories that live there,
52:08
Speaker 2: open the space for more love.
52:11
Speaker 1: And that sounds so good. So it's the hotter breathing
52:13
Speaker 1: classes out online or.
52:15
Speaker 2: Do we have to be It's just it's on zoom,
52:18
Speaker 2: it's on Zone. You could just go to the website
52:20
Speaker 2: and register and tap in every Tuesday at nine pm
52:27
Speaker 2: e s T. And that is I offer that because
52:33
Speaker 2: that could be done by any member of the family,
52:35
Speaker 2: not only women, but men too. That space is within
52:40
Speaker 2: all of us, and they have a whole nother story
52:43
Speaker 2: about what LIFs in there in this space, and they
52:48
Speaker 2: may not have a womb, but you know, that's the
52:50
Speaker 2: center point of the call where we hold everything in.
52:53
Speaker 2: Male female doesn't matter, Yeah, you know, and we can
52:57
Speaker 2: unpack it and change the stories and get me these
53:00
Speaker 2: and really put more joy there and more creativity there
53:04
Speaker 2: and more ideas that we can live with that will
53:07
Speaker 2: bring bring us more joy. Yes, so we offer dad,
53:12
Speaker 2: offer her move poon consentation. Like I said, let's sit
53:17
Speaker 2: down with couples. And I had some beautiful testimonies too,
53:22
Speaker 2: where the couples come on and the wife be talking
53:25
Speaker 2: about what she'd be going through and and helping us
53:28
Speaker 2: the husband understand what weeks to work with her, what
53:31
Speaker 2: weeks you can you know, and just let him, let
53:35
Speaker 2: him learn how to know her cycles. I like post
53:38
Speaker 2: it up every time you have a difficulty acts her,
53:42
Speaker 2: know her cycle, When what week is she in, what season?
53:46
Speaker 2: If she's in her fall week, don't ask for more
53:50
Speaker 2: than she can give. Listen if she's in her one
53:52
Speaker 2: two weeks, Serve her she's in her spring and summer.
53:56
Speaker 2: You can go whatever, because she'd be able to handle it.
53:59
Speaker 2: She's stronger than you know, would give us at least
54:02
Speaker 2: a few days out of the all and when to weak,
54:05
Speaker 2: to be nurtured or be by a soul, you know,
54:09
Speaker 2: the main I hear so many of my friends say,
54:12
Speaker 2: I'm like, what did you do for mother days? Like
54:13
Speaker 2: my time? But I just wanted time, you know. They
54:16
Speaker 2: didn't want to go out. Just give me some time alone. Yeah,
54:20
Speaker 2: with myself. Don't ask me for nohing today, you know?
54:24
Speaker 2: How about that? I'm like, we're raising my kids. When
54:27
Speaker 2: I close the door, they know not to not to knock.
54:31
Speaker 2: It was my time and I used to love it.
54:33
Speaker 2: I'm an introvert, extrovert, so if I go inside, you
54:36
Speaker 2: could get more of me outside, you know. So that's
54:40
Speaker 2: when I.
54:40
Speaker 1: Think of how hard it is for people and women
54:43
Speaker 1: a lot of times to say what they need and
54:47
Speaker 1: I might alone recognize it for ourselves, but then to
54:50
Speaker 1: even ask for it or to say out loud and
54:52
Speaker 1: not feel guilt or not feel shamed. Right, So yeah,
54:56
Speaker 1: it's really really powerful everything that you I'm sure light
55:00
Speaker 1: bulbs are going off for all the people listening. But yeah,
55:05
Speaker 1: this is really really powerful and I can't wait to
55:08
Speaker 1: read your book turning your home into a moon Lodge.
55:12
Speaker 1: Because again, even what you shared in the book that
55:15
Speaker 1: Mama Ifatitle put together, that all of us got to
55:18
Speaker 1: contribute to it made me so curious and so I'm
55:22
Speaker 1: so thankful that you did take the time to come
55:24
Speaker 1: and expand on what your work is about and all
55:27
Speaker 1: that you do before we wrap up, because I know
55:31
Speaker 1: and I look how fast the time goes. Could you
55:34
Speaker 1: tell everyone the website the best way to connect with you.
55:39
Speaker 2: You could connect with me and my website is www
55:43
Speaker 2: dot cycle Breaking b.
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Speaker 3: R E A k I N Wound Keepers w O
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Speaker 3: M B A E E G e r s dot
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Speaker 3: com cycle Breaking Wound Keepers.
55:58
Speaker 2: We all have that I send to my voice and
56:01
Speaker 2: you're getting curious and excited about this information. You are
56:04
Speaker 2: a psycho breaker. You know, it's one in every family,
56:07
Speaker 2: at least one. You get lucky if you get two.
56:11
Speaker 2: But it's one in every family that looks through the
56:13
Speaker 2: family line and say no, I don't want to do
56:16
Speaker 2: it like that. I'm not doing it like that. And
56:19
Speaker 2: I even go further, I'm like, I don't want to
56:22
Speaker 2: I want to do everything I need to do this
56:24
Speaker 2: lifetime because I don't want to tell that to you
56:26
Speaker 2: and do this like this. Gang. I'm not coming back
56:30
Speaker 2: here doing it like this again. So let me address
56:33
Speaker 2: everything I can on my own so I can raise
56:37
Speaker 2: my frequency and raise my vibration and if I have
56:39
Speaker 2: to come back and be on a higher level. You're
56:42
Speaker 2: not like this. That is so free.
56:44
Speaker 1: That's what I always say. I don't want to repeat it.
56:46
Speaker 1: I want to learn the lesson this time. Yes, you know,
56:50
Speaker 1: deal with what is true and let's keep it moving.
56:53
Speaker 1: I have to think, mamma, it was so incredible to
56:57
Speaker 1: hear your story and hear so so much about your
57:00
Speaker 1: and for everyone listening again. The website is cycle breakin
57:03
Speaker 1: womb keepers dot com. I'm gonna put the link in
57:06
Speaker 1: the show description, but I'm also going to put the
57:08
Speaker 1: link to connect with you on Instagram and thank you.
57:12
Speaker 1: Don't forget to look out for the print version of
57:15
Speaker 1: Turning Your Home into a Moon Lodge. So once the
57:19
Speaker 1: prints available, please send the link to me so I
57:21
Speaker 1: can update the the the description with the link.
57:26
Speaker 2: To get the yes. Yes, thank you so much, thank you, my.
57:29
Speaker 1: Love, and thank everyone for listening and joining us today
57:33
Speaker 1: and we will see you all very soon.
57:36
Speaker 2: Thank you into joy.
57:41
Speaker 1: Okay, beautiful Alchemist, thank you again for joining me here
57:44
Speaker 1: on Reiki Radio and to our wonderful guest today, Mama
57:48
Speaker 1: Moot Raat, who is also a contributor to Reiki Heart
57:52
Speaker 1: and Soul, Many Stories, One Bright Light. The link for
57:55
Speaker 1: this book the anthology that was put together by if
57:59
Speaker 1: a Tile White. The link is down in the show description.
58:02
Speaker 1: But you can also learn more about Mama Moot in
58:05
Speaker 1: her work going to her website cycle Breakingwombkeepers dot com.
58:10
Speaker 1: The link is down in the show description. Don't forget
58:13
Speaker 1: that she has her book Turning Your Home into a
58:17
Speaker 1: Moon Lodge that is available as an ebook now. It
58:21
Speaker 1: will be a physical book sometime this summer. Keep an
58:24
Speaker 1: eye out for that, but the links to connect with
58:27
Speaker 1: her are down in the show description. So I hope
58:30
Speaker 1: that you learned in today's conversation, and if there's someone
58:35
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58:38
Speaker 1: we shared today, be sure to share a Reiki Radio
58:41
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58:45
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58:49
Speaker 1: would gain support from these conversations. So thank you for sharing.
58:53
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, and if you
58:55
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58:58
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59:01
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59:04
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59:23
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59:26
Speaker 1: you soon and remember to always journey and love. Bye
59:30
Speaker 1: for now,