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The Future of the Franchise Part 2 with Kaity Biggar and Caelynn Bell · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, I am back with Katie Bigger and Kaylin
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  Speaker 2: Bell and we are going to be breaking down some
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  Speaker 2: of these headlines that have come out about Taylor Friky
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  Speaker 2: Paul in the whole situation over the past few days.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Frinky Paul defends her social media activity after the Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 2: This is a very this is a very strange thing.
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  Speaker 2: The day after the cancelation, I saw her commenting under
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of Instagram reels. Even though you know,
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  Speaker 2: we would have thought that her world just blowed up.
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  Speaker 2: I would have been like rolled up in a ball,
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  Speaker 2: being like I don't know how to go on. I
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  Speaker 2: am so thoroughly embarrassed, and I just need to like
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  Speaker 2: literally go to Tahiti, Like I need to like go
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  Speaker 2: to a place where there are no screens and no news.
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  Speaker 2: And so she was on her phone and somebody said,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it weird that, like you're on your phone, like
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  Speaker 2: why are you commenting back to people and reposting tiktoks.
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  Speaker 2: I would say that her team should take away the phone,
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  Speaker 2: but no, she's literally reposting tiktoks like that are in
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  Speaker 2: support of her and coming back commenting back to people
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram. And then she said, yes, I'm always on
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  Speaker 2: it's my job. I still have to work. Want me
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  Speaker 2: to stare at a wall instead?
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  Speaker 3: Which is crazy. We all do this to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 3: She does not have work right now. Nobody is paying
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  Speaker 3: me to do an ad right now.
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  Speaker 4: Like you also don't get paid to comment on TikTok
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  Speaker 4: unless I'm missing something, you don't get paid.
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  Speaker 5: To comment on tiktoks and Instagram.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so weirded out by the last comment, particularly want
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  Speaker 2: me to stare at a wall instead.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, no, we're suggesting you do plenty of other things.
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  Speaker 4: Although if she's if she's labeling this as a job,
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  Speaker 4: which yes, I understand, yes, but like it's okay to
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  Speaker 4: take some uto, some unpaid time off would be great,
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  Speaker 4: or you know, take a mental health day, which a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people people do in the real world. So
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  Speaker 4: I think she just needs I think silence in this
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  Speaker 4: case is a lot more powerful than her being chronically online.
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: She has kids too, Like, spend time with your kids,
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  Speaker 3: get off of your phone, go outside, Like what do
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  Speaker 3: you mean stare at a wall. There's so much fun
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  Speaker 3: things you can do.
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  Speaker 2: You need to be with your family, You need to
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  Speaker 2: deal with the people that love you the most right now,
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  Speaker 2: are going to like comfort and take care of you
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  Speaker 2: or hire you in the best situation, Yeah, you can
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  Speaker 2: hire an assistant. But like, yeah, your comments online are
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  Speaker 2: just gonna make everybody else think that you are less well.
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  Speaker 2: We're thinking that, like you, poor thing. You have an
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  Speaker 2: actual You have a real addiction. Sometimes I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I have an addiction to the phone too, when I'm
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of doom scrolling.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the opjects aren't great period.
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  Speaker 4: Like even she's just digging herself an even bigger hole
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  Speaker 4: than she's already in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So now we'll talk about Dakota's temporary
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  Speaker 2: protective order against her.
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  Speaker 6: It's been granted.
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  Speaker 2: The court finds that there is reason to believe it
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  Speaker 2: has jurisdiction over the parties and this case, the respondent
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  Speaker 2: and the petitioner are cohabitants and their respondent will be
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  Speaker 2: served notice of her opportunity to be heard at.
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  Speaker 6: A scheduled hearing.
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  Speaker 2: The respondent has abused or committed domestic violence against the
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  Speaker 2: petitioner or that there are that there is a substantial
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  Speaker 2: likelihood that the respondent immediately threatens the petitioner's physical safety.
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  Speaker 2: Per the order, tailor is unable to have any contact
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  Speaker 2: with Dakota and must oh bye by all orders included
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  Speaker 2: on this form and not to abuse threatened or threatened
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  Speaker 2: abuse to anyone protected by this order.
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  Speaker 6: La la la la.
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  Speaker 2: She needs to stay one hundred feet away from him
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  Speaker 2: and cannot contact him through phone.
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  Speaker 6: Mail, email, communicating anyway.
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  Speaker 2: He will be given temporary custody of the minor children
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  Speaker 2: and this includes like going and taking her, like taking
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  Speaker 2: him to school, daycare, And it looks like this will
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  Speaker 2: be in effect until they have their court hearing on Tuesday,
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  Speaker 2: April seventh. I think that all of us are probably
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  Speaker 2: in agreeance to the fact that even a Dakota is
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  Speaker 2: probably not a you know, he's part of the problem
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  Speaker 2: in all of this. He should probably have custody right now.
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  Speaker 5: He definitely perpetuates the toxicity of.
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  Speaker 6: It all He's added to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, back to the video too, we're only seeing when
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  Speaker 3: he decided to record, Like, did he do something to
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  Speaker 3: her before? Did he do something to rile her up
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  Speaker 3: to get the reaction that he wanted so that he
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  Speaker 3: had this video proof, like it all feels so manipulative.
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  Speaker 3: That's not saying that what she did is wrong, because
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  Speaker 3: what she did is so so so wrong, But we're
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  Speaker 3: only seeing him and his narrative of this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know people will talk about that too, and
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  Speaker 2: I see both sides. You could either he could either
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  Speaker 2: be recording it because you know, he's a victim of abuse,
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  Speaker 2: and that is what people say to do, you know, yes,
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  Speaker 2: document it, which he is, yes, an abuse victim. But
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  Speaker 2: at the same time, was he doing it for other
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  Speaker 2: reasons as well?
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  Speaker 6: We don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just it's just so awkward to talk about, Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to accuse him of that either.
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  Speaker 4: I am honestly just for my own because I'm just
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  Speaker 4: catching up on this. Has she ever once outwardly said
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  Speaker 4: that he has abused her? I genuinely don't know, Like,
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  Speaker 4: has that ever?
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  Speaker 3: I believe in the beginning, yes, and then she's said no.
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  Speaker 3: Because I've been reading into this too. I think initially
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  Speaker 3: in the police report it it was that he did too, okay,
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  Speaker 3: but then she went on a podcast and said he didn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: We actually leads into something So we got an extended
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  Speaker 2: version of the video from like a police body cam
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  Speaker 2: yesterday in which Dakota says, you, no, please don't take her?
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  Speaker 2: Do you could take take me? Like I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I don't even want like this at all, And they're like, well,
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  Speaker 2: we have to arrest her right now, but you can
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  Speaker 2: like decide not.
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  Speaker 6: To press charges.
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  Speaker 2: So he was trying to get her out of that
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  Speaker 2: situation as soon as it happened. Again, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: probably just because like he felt bad for his girlfriend
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  Speaker 2: that she was getting handcuffed and taken away.
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  Speaker 6: But again, who the heck knows?
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  Speaker 2: And then in the recent press release from her lawyer publicists,
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  Speaker 2: who the heck knows? In response to the cancelation, she
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  Speaker 2: does insinuate that he's been like mentally, emotionally and physically
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  Speaker 2: abusive and that she is the true victim here. But
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  Speaker 2: we don't know if that's true either or if it's
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  Speaker 2: a pr statement.
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  Speaker 3: It just seems like it's the most toxic relationship. And
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  Speaker 3: that's such an overused phrase. But I know it's like
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  Speaker 3: these two people need to be as far away from
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  Speaker 3: each other as possible, and they do not need to
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  Speaker 3: be on TV. They do not need to be filming
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  Speaker 3: a TV show together having castmates like rile them up
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  Speaker 3: and like for the drama. These people are not well
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  Speaker 3: and they need to get help and like take care
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  Speaker 3: of their kids. And it's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that right there, like the priority should be
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  Speaker 4: the kids, Like get away from the TV show, Like
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  Speaker 4: you said, like this isn't doing anybody any good, Like
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  Speaker 4: just get off, get off the TV show and prioritize
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  Speaker 4: your family, your kids and your mental health.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I'm like, are there good grandparents around here?
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  Speaker 6: Because I just want these kids.
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  Speaker 2: To like, well, all these sailors I know exactly what's
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  Speaker 2: his one?
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  Speaker 6: Are his parents?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know?
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  Speaker 2: And then of course her ex husband seems very like
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  Speaker 2: even keeled through all this.
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  Speaker 6: He he seems like.
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  Speaker 2: A good one. But I guess we all don't really know.
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  Speaker 2: His not really a public figure. He like pops in
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  Speaker 2: every now and again, So I wonder what she was
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  Speaker 2: like back in the day with him. Anyway, I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: that those kids are in That girl, that daughter was
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  Speaker 2: his in the video. I can't imagine what he's going
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  Speaker 2: through now as the dad seeing that video and seeing
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  Speaker 2: his daughter get hit. All Right, So our next headline
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  Speaker 2: is about the video Taylor Frankie Paul could face enhance
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  Speaker 2: charges over alleged domestic violence incident due to twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: three plea. So what's going on here is that she's
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  Speaker 2: currently on probation for what happened in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: If what happened in February turns out to be something
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  Speaker 2: her probation, you know, she can get set nuts. She
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  Speaker 2: could be charged with something worse. And if she didn't
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  Speaker 2: have anything pop up during her probation, she could have
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  Speaker 2: been charged with her twenty twenty three incident being a
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  Speaker 2: lesser charge. So that's you know, that's all to be
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  Speaker 2: determined by whatever the police investigation turns out to seem like.
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  Speaker 2: One thing that I would like to talk about is
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  Speaker 2: the fact that they cast to someone has the bachelorette
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  Speaker 2: who was on probation. I did not know this until
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  Speaker 2: last week. I was like, wait, what They couldn't even
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  Speaker 2: leave the country.
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  Speaker 6: Because of this?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, And that's what I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 2: The Saint Lucia thing, which is where they filmed the finale,
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  Speaker 2: apparently there's like an out with like US that's not
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  Speaker 2: a US Vision island, but that island doesn't have yeah something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we found out before they started filming that
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  Speaker 3: they would have to film entirely domestic domestically in the country,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, aside from Saint Lucia. But because she's on.
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  Speaker 2: Probation, that really says this shouldn't be you lead, Like.
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  Speaker 3: I am so thankful for the show meeting my husband,
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  Speaker 3: but they are just making wrong decision after wrong decision.
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  Speaker 3: The right decision was to cancel the show, so I'm thankful.
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  Speaker 3: But if you can't leave the country, get a new girl,
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  Speaker 3: get Brooks Nader, get anyone else, Like she's not your girl.
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  Speaker 5: My my thing is too.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it's very interesting because like I feel like
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  Speaker 4: behind the scenes we had a revamp, you know, producers
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  Speaker 4: got you know whatever.
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  Speaker 5: There's new production team, camera crew, et cetera. All for
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  Speaker 5: the most part, a lot of new people. I'm like,
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  Speaker 5: who has come in now and has made this decision?
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  Speaker 5: Because I'm like, was this the right choice?
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  Speaker 4: Should we go back to the other people or like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just very interesting who made this call?
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  Speaker 5: And I know it's not just one person. I know
• 10:52
  Speaker 5: it's a bunch of people, Like, oh.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good idea, what like you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: It's just like interesting how they ended up on this candidate.
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  Speaker 2: My thought is that it's somebody in charge of the
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: crossover content, you know, somebody who would want to make
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  Speaker 2: that trifecta that is Disney, ABC and Hulu.
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  Speaker 6: Like stronger to connect everything together.
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  Speaker 2: Our final headline of the week is Taylor Frankie Paul
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  Speaker 2: melts down during the bachelorette date. A bachelorette date when
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  Speaker 2: a guy asks about her domestic violence case. So obviously
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: we're never going to see this date, but TMZ an
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  Speaker 2: insider with direct knowledge tells TMZ that Taylor's twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: three assault case was brought up by a contestant named
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: Casey Hucks during a one on one. She got very
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  Speaker 2: emotional about the topic and then supposedly had a full
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  Speaker 2: fridge melt down when the arrest was brought up and
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  Speaker 2: she stormed off the set. We're told that Casey raise
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: the sensitive issue because he wanted to know, if anything,
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  Speaker 2: if Taylor learned from the experience and how she's grown
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: from it, And of course he had never seen the
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: TMC video going into that conversation. Casey, I can think
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  Speaker 2: tell you. I mean, I don't know there's such thing
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: as a spoiler alert anymore, but reality Steve has reported
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  Speaker 2: that he was top three or top four and no,
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: he made it to hometowns and he was a contestant
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: of note on night one, Like I definitely considered him
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  Speaker 2: my top four, So that's super interesting. I wonder if
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: she was annoyed at him or annoyed at production, because
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: perhaps they said something along the lines of like, it
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  Speaker 2: won't be brought up if your bachelorette, because why else
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  Speaker 2: would you like freak out in a mad way. Yea,
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  Speaker 2: everybody knows about this, Yeah, And.
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  Speaker 4: It would also be interesting to see her actual reaction,
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  Speaker 4: like obviously we're hearing you know, yeah, assuming you know,
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  Speaker 4: we don't really know how she reacted. But I mean,
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  Speaker 4: judging by how they described it, sounds like they're they're
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  Speaker 4: still room.
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  Speaker 2: For growth exactly exactly. And I don't know, they probably
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  Speaker 2: won't like me saying this, but there was definitely a
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  Speaker 2: moment in the season long teaser at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the first episode in which the guys.
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  Speaker 6: Basically give back.
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  Speaker 2: Their roses and they leave in a hostile moment.
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  Speaker 6: Dang, it was juicy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really wanted to know what that was about.
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  Speaker 2: There was also a moment or she took back their roses.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah. I also saw that she is laying
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  Speaker 3: up to potentially sue ABC.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that seems far fetched to me.
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  Speaker 2: And then I've also seen speculation that the guys are
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  Speaker 2: trying to sue ABC because their season won't be aired,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you don't chance there, that's just you
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  Speaker 2: don't have a chance. And then of course there's the
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  Speaker 2: option I think that ABC might have to sue her
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  Speaker 2: because she possibly violated her probation and she will not
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  Speaker 2: that not that part, the fact that she committed criminal activity,
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  Speaker 2: possibly allegedly wall under contract, So there's lots of suable matters.
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  Speaker 6: It seems to be.
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  Speaker 3: She I mean, even just what we know of the contracts,
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  Speaker 3: not criminal wise, she spoiled the season, so we know
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  Speaker 3: that you can be sued for that.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: She spoiled her season in the sense that, well, it
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  Speaker 2: seems like she and Dakota we're back having some sort
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: of relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Dakota and she got spotted with her, the one she picked,
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  Speaker 3: and she did a TikTok with.
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  Speaker 6: Him, Like what TikTok did she do with him?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's her most recent TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that that was a ploy. I thought that
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  Speaker 2: I was like, that arm could belong to any man.
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  Speaker 2: She's just trying to be like, look, I don't hear
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  Speaker 2: you Dakota as you are, you know, saying certain things
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  Speaker 2: about me. I can't hear my phone right now because
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: she was playing telephone by Lady Gaga. I'm with a
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  Speaker 2: man right now. And I was like, that could be
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  Speaker 2: the arm of any man.
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  Speaker 5: But I will say he was wearing a T shirt.
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  Speaker 4: In one of like the when he was like recently
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  Speaker 4: spotted with her getting out of a car or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it was the same T shirt in that TikTok video.
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  Speaker 4: Oh really Yeah, So it's interesting it actually could be him,
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  Speaker 4: and they were spotted in March twelfth.
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  Speaker 3: I think the day that she posted was the day
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  Speaker 3: he came out of the car with her with that color.
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  Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, interesting, I'm interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's we also heard that that was just
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: kind of a marketing ploy and like something to get
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: eyes off of the February scandal because that at the
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: time what we were all focused on. So who the
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: heck knows the rumor is based on reality Steve that
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: she ended up with You guys, if you don't want
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: to hear this, I guess you can turn this off
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  Speaker 2: fast forward or whatnot. But it's like, it's not going
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: to be out there, and even if it does drop
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: on Hulu, like, I think you'll survive knowing that she
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: supposedly ends up with Doug and at their relationship, which
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: did end engage if they got engaged at the end of.
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: The show, he he.
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  Speaker 2: And her ended up breaking up weeks like three four
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  Speaker 2: weeks after the finale.
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  Speaker 6: He flew out to Utah and I believe a filmed
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: moment and she.
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  Speaker 2: Was with Dakota again, like she was like reconciling is
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: with Dakota, like she couldn't drop him and Doug was cute,
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: and their chemistry in Night one, which I only even
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: think I'm allowed to say, was hot.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like this does dude looks like Dakota a
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Oh is the most descript type ever?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, ever? Ever?
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  Speaker 5: What a mess? What a freaking mess?
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: What will they do with these guys? Will they use
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: them in Paradise? What do you think in the future
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: of this franchise? Do you think that they're going to
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: have a paradise.
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  Speaker 5: I think so.
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  Speaker 3: I think so too. They didn't pivot correctly this time.
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  Speaker 3: And I we were at the golden wedding Dian and
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I told a producer this, people watch for the MESSI
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: and the drama, but they also watch for the love.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: We have so many couples that found love on the show.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: So do what Trader's ish show with couples.
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  Speaker 2: Literally, I've been saying this for years and years and years,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: like why don't you utilize your couples. You have so
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: many married couples. Look at us, all three of us here,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense. We would all love to do it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm speaking for us all, but oh yes,
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  Speaker 2: and make it a competition show exactly like Trader. People
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  Speaker 2: will love it. Is that too fast to happen right now?
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Probably what I could imagine them actually being able to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: throw together is some sort of live you know how
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: they do Big Brother and stuff and like Love Island,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: like almost live where it's like every week, put something together,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: like just give us two hours of people like just
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: mingling on a beach, or like bring them all to
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: the mansion, put them up in like the Hilton down
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the street, the Sheridan and then like bring them to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: the mansion during the day, give us two hours of TV.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: That's interesting to see it happen in livetime.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: They need to utilize the The Bachelor mansion was just renovated,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I got to utilize that in some way.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: They I feel like that was a waste of money too.
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: Now, yeah, it's true, but yeah, people love love, so
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: it's like, let's let's hone in on love instead of
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: even though the dramas good drama, is.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: There anything else that you guys think that we should
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: broach on this whole situation In the future of the franchise.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I think we just need a break and they need
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: to pivot in a different way, like new show concept.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Let's like scrap it all and do something completely new.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: We don't need to copy other shows formats like they
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: try to do Love Island in Paradise last season. Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: we just need something new and refresh.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: It's hard because I feel like there's so like mixed views.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: It's like people want it to go back to the
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: way it was. People want drama, people want it to
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: be more like Love Island. So I think they took
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: that and I think what they just need to do is,
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: like what I've just been saying like this whole time,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: is just going back to their roots, making sure you
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: find somebody that actually wants to fall in love.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: Give it a give.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Rachel Kirconnell this position, or Brooks Nae or somebody like that. Like,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't even know where you go.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: You guys have been in the franchise a lot longer
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: than me. I don't know where you go with this.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Maybe let it die, I don't know, give it a
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: fake rebrand, like change the name.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: But I feel like even like Harry Jalaxy I heard
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: is coming out with like a Bachelor.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Type style TV show, So like.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Somebody's also taking that concept and then revamping it and
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: making it bigger and better.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, how do you stay at the forefront
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: and it's not tailor Frankie paul By putting her as
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: leap You don't do that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem to make sense, it does. I think
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: we still need that stunt cast. I think we still
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: need a celebrity to revamp the franchise just to bring
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: attention back to it again. But obviously somebody who is
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a safer choice. Maybe now we go with a guy
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: for Bachelor, yeah, or more Higgins.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Everyone's saying that, I know, but like she would be.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Perfect, Yeah, she would be really great and she was well,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: so she's trader, so she's not in the Abies Disney family.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: They'd have to get over that one.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Which is so silly to me because everyone else has
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: branched out. Netflix has branched out, like they're all bringing
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: in whoever they want, all these different networks. You're the
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: only one that's stuck in our own. So well they
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: get out of that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: With vander Pump. They brought vander Pomp over to Hulu. True,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: So there's you know, there's that. Thank you girls so
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: much for joining me. It has been a pleasure, but
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: it's been an unfortunate event. So until next time, guys,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I've been Ashley and they've been Katie and Kaylin, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: thank you so much.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: Bye.
• 21:36
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