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Credlin | 10 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krendlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. James Burrow here
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Speaker 2: on a Friday night for Peter Kredlin. Let's take a
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Speaker 2: look at tonight's top stories. Here's what's coming up on
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Speaker 2: the program. The worst wildfires in Los Angeles' history and
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Speaker 2: the radical policies that are engulfing the state of California.
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Speaker 2: Plus UK High Commissioner Steven Smith backflips on his outrageous
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Speaker 2: Australia Day snub. Plus the numbers that show Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: YEP could very well be the next Prime Minister. Why
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Speaker 2: do you think Anthon Albany is so reluctant to call
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Speaker 2: that election? But first, the fires in California rage on,
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Speaker 2: and so does the controversy around them. As of now,
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Speaker 2: we know that at least seven people are dead and
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Speaker 2: thousands of structures are damaged or destroyed, more than nine
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Speaker 2: thousand in the Palisade and Eaten fires alone, And we
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Speaker 2: also know, sadly that those numbers are all but surely
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Speaker 2: expected to go, expected to increase. And again, though, you know,
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Speaker 2: even as we tally all of the damage up, we
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Speaker 2: have to ask the question, how did this happen. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we know fires are a thing in Los Angeles, just
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Speaker 2: as they are in Australia, and that the Santa Anna
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Speaker 2: wins which drive them are a phenomenon.
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Speaker 3: So how was the city so unprepared? Now?
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Speaker 2: Last night I gave you a rundown of all the
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Speaker 2: different ways in which the disaster is still unfolding in
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Speaker 2: California was made worse, much worse by the corrupting influences
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Speaker 2: of environmental lunacy, democrat corruption, and the DEI cult. Well,
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Speaker 2: as they say in the TV commercials. But wait, there's more,
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Speaker 2: because I want to start this off by saying, of course,
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Speaker 2: that the actual firefighters and emergency teams on the ground
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Speaker 2: are doing incredible jobs. Just look at this amazing water
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Speaker 2: drop by a helicopter right along the firefront. That's daring
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Speaker 2: and that skill, and that's heroism. But these heroes, and
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Speaker 2: indeed all of California have been let down by their bosses,
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Speaker 2: the elected officials and bureaucrats, who have made their jobs
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Speaker 2: so much harder and their state that much more dangerous.
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Speaker 2: I want to play something for you here that is
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Speaker 2: to me absolutely unbelievable, and yet it's true because for
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Speaker 2: years and years and years. When there have been fights
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Speaker 2: about diversity and outfits like fire departments, the argument has
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Speaker 2: always been, well, I don't really care who pulls me
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Speaker 2: out of a fire, so long as they are strong
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Speaker 2: enough to do so. So how on earth could anyone
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Speaker 2: argue against that?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 2: Well, meet Los Angeles Fire Department Deputy Chief Christine Larson here.
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Speaker 2: She is explaining why if you think firefighting is just
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Speaker 2: about being the strongest and most capable, you are very,
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Speaker 2: very wrong.
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Speaker 4: You want to see somebody that responds to your house,
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Speaker 4: your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call,
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Speaker 4: that looks like you. It gives that person a little
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Speaker 4: bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better.
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Speaker 3: Is she strong enough to do this?
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Speaker 4: Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire,
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Speaker 4: which my response is he got himself from the wrong place.
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Speaker 4: If I have to carry him out of a fire.
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Speaker 3: Did you get that? Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 2: She says that if you get caught in a fire,
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Speaker 2: maybe you better check your privilege and realize why it's
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Speaker 2: your own damn fault. Honestly, this here, what you saw
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Speaker 2: right there, that is DEI in a nutshell because if
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Speaker 2: your white, well you probably don't deserve saving anyway. If
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Speaker 2: Christine Larsner or her ilk are two out of shape
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Speaker 2: to save you, well, that's your own damn problem. You
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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been in the fire in the first place.
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Speaker 2: They say, bod as she said at the start of
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Speaker 2: the video, Well if you're a person of color, well
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Speaker 2: then we'll save you, and we'll make sure that the
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Speaker 2: person who comes to the rescue ticks all the right
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Speaker 2: diversity boxes. And this is before we get into every
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Speaker 2: other policy fail that has made these fires so much worse.
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Speaker 2: Last night we went over the water diversion policies and
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Speaker 2: dam removal programs which may very well have contributed to
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Speaker 2: the lack of water available to fight the fires, and
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Speaker 2: how the mayor of La Karen Bass was often Ghana
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Speaker 2: when the fires broke out, and we spoke to a
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Speaker 2: local who explained how, in the name of social justice
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Speaker 2: that is, fighting high premiums, California drove out insurance companies,
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Speaker 2: meaning many, many, many homeowners will be left penniless. All
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Speaker 2: of this, by the way, is why Hi I've always
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Speaker 2: said that what are sometimes derisively called the culture wars
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Speaker 2: really do matter in a real practical sense, because that's
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Speaker 2: what we're seeing here in California. Hard left, radical progressive
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Speaker 2: insanity never just stays quarantined, you know, behind the university gates.
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Speaker 2: It infects and poisons everything it touches, turning the once
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Speaker 2: great and productive state of California into a third world
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Speaker 2: dump where one of the city's deputy mayors a few
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Speaker 2: weeks ago had his home raided by the FBI on
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Speaker 2: suspicion of making bomb threats. What's going on in this place?
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Speaker 2: At the same time, citizens have been left to fend
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Speaker 2: essentially for themselves. The latest threat now with the fires
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Speaker 2: is apparently looters. To put it another way about the
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Speaker 2: culture wars, well, you may not be interested in the
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Speaker 2: culture wars, but as these progressive policies rolling out in
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Speaker 2: California show you, the culture wars certainly are interested in you.
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Speaker 2: And again you have to feel so sorry for the
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Speaker 2: poor people of Los Angeles, even if they're the ones
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Speaker 2: who keep voting in this insanity. Insanity which saw seventeen
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Speaker 2: million dollars cut from the fire Department's budget last year.
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Speaker 3: Gosh, I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's climate changes behind all these fires,
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Speaker 2: wouldn't they wanted to be putting money into the fire department,
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Speaker 2: but as this graphic shared last year by the city's
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Speaker 2: financial control approved, that left the city free to spend
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Speaker 2: more money on as Alan van Alta from the Daily
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Speaker 2: and Culture Reports, gay choirs, trans cafes, and social justice art.
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Speaker 2: According to Van Nada, loss and Less allocated one hundred
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars to these Civil and Human Rights and Equity
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Speaker 2: Department for a midnight stroll transgender cafe. According to his
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty five budget, the funding's purpose
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Speaker 2: is to support a safe haven for unsheltered transgender individuals
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Speaker 2: in Hollywood. The document ruled noted the budget also allocated
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Speaker 2: thirteen thousand dollars for the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender
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Speaker 2: Heritage Month programs.
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Speaker 3: Which month is that?
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Speaker 2: And fourteen ten dollars to the Gay Men's Course of
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Speaker 2: Los Angeles Los Angeles. African American History Month, American Indian
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Speaker 2: Heritage Month, Latino Heritage Month, and Asian American History Month programs.
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Speaker 3: Were all also allocated. Thirteen thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: Now all a drop in the bucket, I know of
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Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar budget and all worthy causes, I am
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Speaker 2: sure but again, perhaps not as important as you know
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Speaker 2: the fire department.
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Speaker 3: Oh.
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Speaker 2: Also, LA is spending money on a special session California. Sorry,
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Speaker 2: is spending money on a special session of the legislature,
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Speaker 2: not to figure out how to help victims of the fires,
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Speaker 2: but to figure out how to quote Trump proof California
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Speaker 2: against the incoming administration's decrees. Now, not surprisingly, the people
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Speaker 2: of California are kind of fed up.
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Speaker 3: And earlier a.
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Speaker 2: Woman managed to confront Governor Gavin Newsom, who, God help us,
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Speaker 2: was talked about as being a real shot for the
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Speaker 2: Democrat nomination. Newsom all blow dried and aviator specs on
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Speaker 2: looking like a contestant that Joe Biden lookalike contest wasn't
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Speaker 2: thrilled and you're not going to believe it, but he
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Speaker 2: tried to pull a Kamada on her, pretending he was
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Speaker 2: on a fake phone call to the president.
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Speaker 5: Governor, I live here, Governor, that was my daughter's school. Governor,
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Speaker 5: please tell me why you're gonna do.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to hurt on my promise.
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Speaker 5: I'm literally talking to the President right now to specifically
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Speaker 5: answer the question of what we can do for you
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Speaker 5: and your daughter.
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Speaker 3: Can I hear it?
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Speaker 5: Can I hear your call?
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Speaker 3: Because I don't believe it.
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, there's literally I've tried five times.
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Speaker 5: That's why I'm walking.
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Speaker 3: Around to make Why is the President not taking your call?
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Speaker 6: Because it's not going through?
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Speaker 3: Why I have to get self service? So let's get it,
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Speaker 3: let's get it.
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Speaker 5: I want to be here when you call the President.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate I'm doing that right now, and it's to
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Speaker 5: immediately get reimbursements, individual assistance.
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Speaker 6: And to help you out build a devastated for you.
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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, I'm literally talking to him right now.
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Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I mean I can't get through.
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Speaker 2: Well whatever, same difference personally, I think it's more likely
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Speaker 2: that Newsom has just tried to confirm his reservation at
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Speaker 2: NOBU tonight.
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Speaker 3: But hey, I'm just an old cynic. Here's more that conversation, Trevor.
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Speaker 5: Please tell me, tell me what are you going to
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Speaker 5: do with the president right now?
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Speaker 7: We're getting we're getting the resources to help rebuild.
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Speaker 3: Why is there no hydrance?
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Speaker 5: Governor? It's all literally, is it going to be different
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Speaker 5: next time? It has to be right?
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Speaker 3: Of course?
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Speaker 5: What are you going to do to fill the hydrants?
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Speaker 3: I would fill them up personally.
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Speaker 5: And you know that. I would fill up the hydrants myself.
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Speaker 3: I understand, but would.
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Speaker 5: You do that?
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Speaker 1: I would do whatever I can, but you're not.
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Speaker 5: I see the Do you know there's water dripping over there?
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Speaker 5: Governor there's water coming out there?
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Speaker 3: You can use it.
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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I'm going to make the call to
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Speaker 5: address everything I can right now, including making sure.
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Speaker 3: People I like to make sure you don't.
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Speaker 5: Can I have an opportunity to at least tell people
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Speaker 5: you're doing.
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Speaker 3: What you're saying you're doing. Could somebody have a contact?
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Speaker 3: Can I have your contact?
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Speaker 2: What is with this namaste thing he's doing with his
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Speaker 2: hands here? If you ask me, that whole clip should
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Speaker 2: be career ending for Newsome. But then again, this is
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Speaker 2: California and for lots of people it's already too late.
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Speaker 2: Back at home now, there's some data and polling numbers
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Speaker 2: that show Peter Dutton really could be our next prime minister.
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Speaker 2: To discuss this in a whole lot more of the
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Speaker 2: Harold suns, James Campbell joins me now. James, welcome to
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Speaker 2: the program this evening. You've been having a very deep
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Speaker 2: look into Redbridge polling numbers and have written about it
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Speaker 2: saying that the results are fascinating. Tell us more about
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Speaker 2: what these numbers are show in this polling and why
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Speaker 2: they are good news for Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so.
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Speaker 8: Redbridge a few weeks ago did a massive poll of
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Speaker 8: people by class, age, demographic, education, religion, and I asked
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Speaker 8: them a whole bunch of things, including voting intention and
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Speaker 8: how they identified themselves conservative or progressive. So then it
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Speaker 8: segmented those voters basically where looking out which groups and
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Speaker 8: were ware and then it mapped those people across the electorates.
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Speaker 8: So they're not individual real they're not poles of the
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Speaker 8: electorates per se. They're a giant sample which gives you
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Speaker 8: an accurate view of these different types of people. And
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Speaker 8: then it mapped them over the electorates, so you can
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Speaker 8: see how these people people in those seats are more
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Speaker 8: likely to vote. And it's a really, really bad situation
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Speaker 8: for the Labor Party that did this.
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Speaker 3: First of all, you see in.
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Speaker 8: Victoria and New South Wales, enormous numbers of seats are
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Speaker 8: now at risk of falling to Darton. But more interestingly,
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Speaker 8: I think what the polling showed is that enormous numbers
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Speaker 8: of seats in both New South Wales and Victoria almost
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Speaker 8: enough to get him to a government on their own.
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Speaker 8: These two states, there are people who self identify as
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Speaker 8: way to the right of center, and there are many
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Speaker 8: of them are living in seats which are presently held
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Speaker 8: by the Labor Party. I eat, the Labor Party is
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Speaker 8: kind of outperforming where it should be based on the
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Speaker 8: way these voters see themselves. Now, what's really interesting about
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Speaker 8: it is that these seats and the way they drift
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Speaker 8: to the right, according to this polling, very very close
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Speaker 8: to the way the electric map that you get when
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Speaker 8: that we got from the Voice in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 8: So yes, well this is no good for the government.
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Speaker 2: Well no, it doesn't sound like it's good because you know,
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Speaker 2: up until now, James, the conventional wisdom that you heard
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Speaker 2: around camera was, oh, well look label scrape back in,
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Speaker 2: but it'll be a minority government. But if you look
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Speaker 2: at the Voice again, you know that was a big
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Speaker 2: sixty forty resounding no to the government on their signature
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Speaker 2: policy for that first year of their government. I mean,
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Speaker 2: are we talking about those sorts of numbers. I mean
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Speaker 2: it could be as catastrophic for Labor as that.
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Speaker 8: No, not I wouldn't. I wouldn't have thought sixty forty
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Speaker 8: that would be that would be existential, that would be
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Speaker 8: career ending, that would be that would be an extinction
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Speaker 8: event for the Australian labor. I don't think we're looking
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Speaker 8: at that, but what we are looking at if you
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Speaker 8: talk to polsters, as I do for my sines, I
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Speaker 8: talked to a lot of polsters and one of the
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Speaker 8: things that pulses tend to agree on is that the
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Speaker 8: quant follows the quoll right. So what that means is
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Speaker 8: how people say they're going to vote that pulses pick
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Speaker 8: up tends to follow what they're saying in focus groups.
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Speaker 8: The focus groups are ahead of the quant right right.
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Speaker 8: So if you say, if someone if there's hostility being
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Speaker 8: picked up towards a politician in focus groups, it might
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Speaker 8: show up for six eight two March, two months later.
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Speaker 2: But what are the issues that are coming up in
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Speaker 2: these focus groups? Have pulses told you? What are the
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Speaker 2: things that people are really concerned about? That the government
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Speaker 2: simply isn't performing.
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Speaker 8: On cost of living?
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Speaker 3: Cost of living?
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Speaker 8: I've never seen anything like it at cost of living.
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Speaker 8: Cost of living is always high, but it's never ever
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Speaker 8: been so salient. But what there's saying to me is
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Speaker 8: that then you know, we can see from the polling
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Speaker 8: that the quant is getting worse for the government. Right,
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Speaker 8: It's been getting worse consistently for months now.
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Speaker 1: But when you talk to.
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Speaker 8: The polls and you say, is the quoll getting worse?
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Speaker 8: Is it? You know, is that lag indicator? Is the
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Speaker 8: polling as a lag indicator indicating sorry too many indicators,
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Speaker 8: that this is going to get worse for them? And
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Speaker 8: they all say, yeah, yeah, it is like if what
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Speaker 8: they're hearing in the focus groups flows through into the quant,
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Speaker 8: it's getting worse. In us words, the best time for
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Speaker 8: Anthony Albanezi to have an election was three months ago,
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Speaker 8: and the next best time is as soon as possible,
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Speaker 8: because it's just getting worse for the government.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing that I've made the point
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Speaker 2: a number of times on this program and in the
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph, is that you know they're on a slow
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Speaker 2: altitude loss course.
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Speaker 3: Here.
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Speaker 2: Would an interest rate cut in February? Would that just
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Speaker 2: be too little, too late? Would that do anything turn
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Speaker 2: this narrative around for the government.
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Speaker 8: Well, I've been of the view for some time that
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Speaker 8: it's too late for an interest rate cut to have
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Speaker 8: any impact for the government. In fact, it may even
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Speaker 8: have a negative impact for the government because at the moment,
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Speaker 8: interest rate cuts are something that people can look forward to,
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Speaker 8: Oh well, things are going to be all right. When
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Speaker 8: the interest rate cuts start, they're going to get an
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Speaker 8: interest rate cut. Maybe takes three months for an interest
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Speaker 8: rate cut to flow through to people's bank accounts, and
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Speaker 8: when they get it, it's not going to be very
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Speaker 8: much so they're going to be like, really now, I'm
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Speaker 8: still in deep trouble here, you know. Yeah, it's come
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Speaker 8: down a bit, but it's still much higher than it
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Speaker 8: was two or three years ago. I've run through my savings. No,
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Speaker 8: I don't think it's right. Interest right cuts now can
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Speaker 8: do them much good. They're just it's too little, too late.
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Speaker 2: James cam We're going to have to live with there.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. Now let's turn
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Speaker 2: to Victoria, where former Premier Jeff Kennett has come out
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Speaker 2: and lashed the Shrine of Remembrances new commercial deal as
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Speaker 2: being totally inappropriate, and I think that he's right. This
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Speaker 2: comes after the Melbourne Shrine secured get this, a five
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Speaker 2: year contract with a catering an events company to host
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Speaker 2: cocktail parties. Come on, are you serious? This move has
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Speaker 2: put some veterans offside and I don't live them at all.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Kennitt has accused the Shrine of resorting to radical
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Speaker 2: ideas to keep a float due to the state's dire finances.
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Speaker 2: He said quote, one can only wonder if it will
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Speaker 2: not be long before they put up signs on another
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Speaker 2: entrance to the Shrine to massage parlors. Such is the
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Speaker 2: desperation of this government. Well to chat about this and more,
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in our panel pr Council Christi mccini and
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Speaker 2: Louise Elliott. Christy, what do you make of the former
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Speaker 2: premier's criticism? Has he got a point?
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Speaker 7: I think he's got it right, James. You're entirely correct
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Speaker 7: too with your mention of the Victorian budget just being
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Speaker 7: in absolute diastrates. They are seeking to make money out
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Speaker 7: of every single asset they have, whilst trying to go
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Speaker 7: into debt to build more that they can never complete.
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Speaker 7: The Royal Botatic Gardens already has a number of contractors
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Speaker 7: in place for catering and events contracts within venues within
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Speaker 7: the gardens, at our event centers. The Shrine is not,
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Speaker 7: never was designed to be, and should not ever be
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Speaker 7: a venue you open to hire a venue that can
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Speaker 7: be put to tender, and it is absolutely terrible and disrespectful.
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Speaker 7: And if you wanted to open it to tender, why
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Speaker 7: don't you ask the RSL if they were interested in
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Speaker 7: tendering or veterans associations or offer a social component of
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Speaker 7: it where it can be used by the veterans community.
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Speaker 7: The government purely just wanting to make money, thinking that
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Speaker 7: Victorian's will let it go through the keeper.
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Speaker 2: Well and Louise, it seems to me that there's also
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Speaker 2: another element to this. You know, it does two things.
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Speaker 2: Number one, it crashly commercialized, commercializes what is a secular
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Speaker 2: secret space I think for Australians. But number two, it
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Speaker 2: also seems to be the sort of thing that would
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Speaker 2: seem to be about, you know, undermining our shared tradition
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Speaker 2: of respect and reverence at places like the Shrine of Remembrance.
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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on this?
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Speaker 6: That's exactly right. It's really uncomfortably basically eating the Shiners
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Speaker 6: of Remembrance Remembrance as some sort of theater or stage
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Speaker 6: or some sort of backdrop when it isn't an art gallery.
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Speaker 6: It isn't a stage, like I said, it's a moral memorial.
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Speaker 3: And a place for reflection.
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Speaker 6: And to think that people need constant entertainment wherever we
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Speaker 6: go is really taking things too far. A place like
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Speaker 6: this is really needs to be treated as the sacred
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Speaker 6: place that it is. It's good for people to be bored,
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Speaker 6: to have quiet places to go, and to be grateful
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Speaker 6: for the democracy we have and for the people that
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Speaker 6: have fought so hard for us. And there's a lot
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Speaker 6: at risk here because when the respect and honor of
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Speaker 6: this place, if it is taken away, that's gone forever
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Speaker 6: and you can't get that back. So there really needs
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Speaker 6: to be a strong and bright line around what's acceptable here,
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Speaker 6: and it needs to be watched really closely.
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Speaker 2: No, I think you're absolutely spart on there. I want
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Speaker 2: to talk turn to federal politics here and even international
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Speaker 2: policy here because I've kind of got a case of
21:02
Speaker 2: wish whiplash Following Anthony Albanezi and what he thinks about
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He is suddenly the Prime Minister suddenly become
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Speaker 2: a bit of.
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Speaker 3: A fan of Trump and said he could.
21:13
Speaker 2: Forge a better friendship with the incoming US president than
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton arguing that his close ties with Indo Pacific
21:22
Speaker 2: leaders would be valuable to the new administration. Peter Dott,
21:26
Speaker 2: of course, has come out and called the whole thing
21:28
Speaker 2: nonsense and comical, pointing out the Albanzi government's anti Israel sentiment.
21:32
Speaker 2: And we know that Trump administration is very pro Israel,
21:36
Speaker 2: as well as the Prime minister's own long anti Trump history. Christy,
21:43
Speaker 2: what do you make of this? Has Dunton got the
21:45
Speaker 2: right side of this here?
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Speaker 7: Well, it's a great spin from the Prime Minister to
21:50
Speaker 7: say that his close relationships with the Indo Pacific neighbors
21:54
Speaker 7: will lead him closer to Donald Trump. And of course
21:57
Speaker 7: the reason why Australia has a great relationship with Dopacific
22:00
Speaker 7: neighbors is because we give them lots of aid and
22:04
Speaker 7: support their climate change lobbying in places around the world,
22:08
Speaker 7: which the United States does not. So if you are
22:12
Speaker 7: staking your relationship on that pillar, that is a false
22:17
Speaker 7: narrative by the Prime minister. Spin, spin and more spin.
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Speaker 2: James well indeed, but Louise also it seems like Anthony
22:24
Speaker 2: ALBINIZI is finally trying to run with the tide that
22:27
Speaker 2: has been you know, sweeping democracies across the West where
22:31
Speaker 2: that kind of you know, tired liberalism has sort of
22:34
Speaker 2: started to fall by the wayside finally because it just
22:38
Speaker 2: got out over its skis with all the wokeness and
22:40
Speaker 2: everything else, and people are really back to you know,
22:43
Speaker 2: the set to write pro nations type of type of
22:47
Speaker 2: approach to things. Anthony Albinia doesn't have any credit of
22:51
Speaker 2: this because he is for all the other things that
22:53
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is against, like you know, censorship and all
22:57
Speaker 2: the other things that Donald Trump is pledged to fight.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely their polls apart President Elect Trump and Anthony ALBERNIZI
23:08
Speaker 6: we've got basically a labor prime minister who is should
23:12
Speaker 6: be in the Green Party and a true conservative incoming president.
23:17
Speaker 6: I mean I can't think of really any topics that
23:19
Speaker 6: they have in alignment, whereas in contrast, Peter Dutton has
23:23
Speaker 6: a lot of alignment with President Elect Trump when it
23:26
Speaker 6: comes to immigration, Israel, energy, national pride. If anything, I
23:31
Speaker 6: think that there's more alignment that could be reached with
23:34
Speaker 6: our next Prime minister because we need to see well,
23:37
Speaker 6: I especially want to see Australia bring back much stronger
23:40
Speaker 6: that national pride Australia. First, the eradication of crazy gender
23:45
Speaker 6: ideology nonsense, and to also be an advocate for free speech.
23:49
Speaker 6: I'm really envious of the free speech rights that Americans
23:53
Speaker 6: have and I think there's a lot of opportunity to
23:55
Speaker 6: strengthen that in Australia, and I think that's a role
23:58
Speaker 6: a future prime minister should be taken on.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely correct spot on, Louise. Now, let's stay in the
24:03
Speaker 2: United States, where Donald Trump, ahead of his inauguration, has
24:06
Speaker 2: already ramped up that America First foreign policy, explicitly talking
24:11
Speaker 2: about Greenland, Canada, Panama Canal, and the Gulf of Mexico
24:15
Speaker 2: falling under the banner of the Red, white and blue.
24:19
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, though, and.
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Speaker 2: This is where I'm thinking, it's really interesting and I
24:22
Speaker 2: think this may be the key to this. Russia does
24:25
Speaker 2: not seem happy about any of this, saying they are
24:29
Speaker 2: watching the incoming presidents moves very closely. Christy, how much
24:34
Speaker 2: do you reckon all of this talk, particularly around Greenland
24:37
Speaker 2: is real and how much do you think this is
24:40
Speaker 2: a strategic bluff? I e to say to Vladimir Puget, Well,
24:43
Speaker 2: if you want to be expansionist and take over neighboring countries,
24:47
Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna like it if the US
24:49
Speaker 2: starts playing games with Greenland right on the Arctic Circle.
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Speaker 7: I think it's both, James, I think you're entirely correct.
24:57
Speaker 7: I think it's a bit of a show front to
25:00
Speaker 7: use the Australian parlaps about political leaders against Vladimir Putin
25:05
Speaker 7: using Greenland. Of course, the capital of Greenland owned by Denmark.
25:10
Speaker 7: That capital is three and a half thousand kilometers away
25:12
Speaker 7: from Copenhagen. It's a long way from being seen by
25:17
Speaker 7: Denmark as something that is integrated into Denmark and the
25:22
Speaker 7: way they run their country. And of course the other
25:25
Speaker 7: part of this is Trump saying to the EU, we
25:28
Speaker 7: don't really support your agenda, your European Parliament. We don't
25:32
Speaker 7: support you lobbying at the United Nations for various climate
25:37
Speaker 7: and energy policies that we don't agree with. Greenland is
25:40
Speaker 7: rich in the potential for oil exploration. I think it's
25:45
Speaker 7: very much serves both of those agendas for Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think also the EU's failure to pay
25:51
Speaker 2: for its own defense. I think probably pleas into that
25:53
Speaker 2: as well. Christy, but Louise, I'm also struck by the
25:55
Speaker 2: parallels here potentially, and forgive me, for nerding out as
25:59
Speaker 2: an American history buff But the similarities to President James PAULK,
26:03
Speaker 2: who's not very well known these days but presided a
26:06
Speaker 2: vast expansion of the United States. Are we as the
26:10
Speaker 2: post Cold War settlement fades, returning possibly to a more
26:15
Speaker 2: nineteenth century style of geopolitics.
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Speaker 6: Well, you're exactly right. It has been done before, and
26:23
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of merit to the arguments
26:24
Speaker 6: that are being put forward around national security. And President
26:29
Speaker 6: Trump is a very bold and courageous leader. And I
26:33
Speaker 6: think my first reaction when I hear the statements, whether
26:35
Speaker 6: it's around the Panama canw or Greenland or Canada, is question,
26:41
Speaker 6: why is he making such grandiose statements in this sort
26:44
Speaker 6: of manner? Is that really the right way to go
26:46
Speaker 6: about it? But it makes a lot of sense when
26:48
Speaker 6: you think about it in terms of that signaling and
26:51
Speaker 6: distraction point of view. So I think we shouldn't underestimate
26:56
Speaker 6: that President Trump and his advices know what they're doing,
27:01
Speaker 6: and I think they'll make the right decisions and go
27:05
Speaker 6: about things that are in the American interest the right way.
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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Thank you so much, Willis Elliott and Christy McSweeney.
27:11
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to leave it there now. Don't you
27:13
Speaker 2: go anywhere though, because coming up next yet another horrific
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Speaker 2: anti Semitic incident here in Sydney, and is our UK
27:22
Speaker 2: High Commissioner Ashamed of Australia. Dave Sharma joins me next.
27:29
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Kretline with me James Marrow sitting in
27:32
Speaker 2: tonight in the chair.
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Speaker 9: Now.
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Speaker 2: It is absolutely shameful how often we have to talk
27:36
Speaker 2: about this, and frankly, I'm sorry that we have to
27:39
Speaker 2: do so, but we do have to talk about it
27:41
Speaker 2: because there has been yet another anti Semitic incident in Sydney.
27:46
Speaker 2: These seem to be happening almost daily at this point.
27:50
Speaker 2: It has been revealed that the Southern Sydney Synagogue last
27:54
Speaker 2: night was graffiti with swastikas and really horrendous anti Semitic phases.
28:00
Speaker 2: It's another chilling reminder that the Jewish community, to the
28:03
Speaker 2: Jewish media, of the hatred that sadly exists in our streets.
28:07
Speaker 2: I want to bring in now to talk about this.
28:09
Speaker 2: Liberal Senator Dave Sharma. Dave, yet another attack and these
28:15
Speaker 2: are coming seems to be more and more frequently, which
28:19
Speaker 2: is pretty depressing. What are your reactions to this?
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Speaker 9: Look, I'm appalled by this latest attack that you're right.
28:28
Speaker 9: I mean, it's they're happening with such alarming regularity and
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Speaker 9: frequency that it's almost becoming a part of daily life
28:37
Speaker 9: in Australia and that saddens me greatly. I mean that
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Speaker 9: the AFP task Force that was stood up a month
28:43
Speaker 9: ago now to look into anti Semitism has already got
28:45
Speaker 9: one hundred and two active investigations into incidents in one month.
28:51
Speaker 9: That just tells you the horrible situation we're dealing with.
28:54
Speaker 9: And I truly believe it's a result of not having
28:57
Speaker 9: tackled this early on. We all saw the of this
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Speaker 9: in elements of the public reaction to the seventh of
29:03
Speaker 9: October terrorist attack. We all could see how people were
29:07
Speaker 9: conflating criticism of Israel with targets against the Jewish community
29:11
Speaker 9: well over a year ago. But it's taken this government
29:14
Speaker 9: far too long to act and as a result, what
29:17
Speaker 9: many of his fear has happened. Anti sent Semitic behavior
29:19
Speaker 9: has increasingly become normalized here in Australia.
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Speaker 2: And I ought to play for you here what the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister had to say today about this latest instant.
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Speaker 2: Have listen to this.
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Speaker 10: There's no place in Australia, our tolerant multicultural community for
29:34
Speaker 10: this sort of criminal activity. Australians should respect each other.
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Speaker 2: Now he's saying the right words, but it feels to me,
29:42
Speaker 2: you know, like this is too little, too late, after
29:45
Speaker 2: so much time, when he kind of left a vacuum,
29:48
Speaker 2: especially after October seventh, for this hatred to Russian and
29:52
Speaker 2: when he's running a foreign policy that seems to be
29:55
Speaker 2: quite explicitly against Israel, and what is trying to do
29:58
Speaker 2: right down to refusing v for our former Israeli cabinet
30:02
Speaker 2: ministers to come to Australia.
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Speaker 3: I think that's right.
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Speaker 9: I think the government has made a very big contribution
30:10
Speaker 9: to the problem that we're dealing with now. Firstly, they've
30:14
Speaker 9: been hesitant about calling this out. In their early days,
30:18
Speaker 9: they couldn't mention anti Semitism without mentioning other forms of
30:22
Speaker 9: racial discrimination and prejudice, which we have not been seeing
30:25
Speaker 9: on anywhere near the same scale we've seen. I mean,
30:29
Speaker 9: we've seen even the Prime Minister say, when confronted with
30:32
Speaker 9: news of the fire bombing attack of the Adath Synagogue,
30:36
Speaker 9: I believe he's started off by saying, well, anti Semitism
30:39
Speaker 9: has been with us for a long time, like it's
30:41
Speaker 9: just business as usual. These are the wrong responses. But
30:44
Speaker 9: also the continued demonization of Israel by seeing the Labor
30:48
Speaker 9: Cabinet ministers has fanned the flames of anti Jewish sentiment
30:52
Speaker 9: in Australia. That may not have been the intent of
30:54
Speaker 9: those ministers, but it was always going to have that consequence,
30:57
Speaker 9: and the loose language used by Anthony Beneze's colleagues has
31:01
Speaker 9: contributed to this.
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Speaker 2: And I think you're absolutely right, And you know, Dave,
31:04
Speaker 2: you warned people and I did, and a number of
31:06
Speaker 2: other people here on this network also said that that reaction,
31:09
Speaker 2: in that response was going to encourage this sort of thing,
31:12
Speaker 2: whether they intended it or not. But I want to
31:14
Speaker 2: move on because we also have a problem with one
31:17
Speaker 2: of our most important diplomats seemingly being a bit of
31:20
Speaker 2: shame of Australia. The Australia has reported that our High Commissioner,
31:23
Speaker 2: Stephen Smith to the UK was going to skip a
31:26
Speaker 2: black tie Australia a gala dinner in London, but apparently
31:31
Speaker 2: he's backtracked.
31:32
Speaker 3: What do you make of all of this?
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Speaker 9: Well, I mean he's obviously done a backflip with Pike,
31:40
Speaker 9: you know, yeah, but it shows you where his heart is.
31:43
Speaker 9: I mean last year, it's been the custom for Australia House,
31:47
Speaker 9: this property that's owned by the taxpayer, to host an
31:50
Speaker 9: Australia d a gala dinner going back many years and High
31:53
Speaker 9: Commissioners have opened those premises to host this dinner which
31:56
Speaker 9: raises money for charity but also showcases Australia to one
32:00
Speaker 9: of our most important trading and commercial and strategic partners.
32:03
Speaker 9: Stephen Smith decided last year to shut the doors of
32:06
Speaker 9: Australia House and told the organizers to go elsewhere. So
32:08
Speaker 9: this year they've gone and found a private venue. Asked
32:10
Speaker 9: the Australian High Commissioner along, Stephen Smith says he's too busy.
32:14
Speaker 9: I mean, what kind of brand ambassador And this is
32:17
Speaker 9: what Steven Smith is. What kind of brand ambassador boycotts
32:20
Speaker 9: the product? Would you keep someone employed for Nike if
32:22
Speaker 9: they said we're not going to wear your shoes. I
32:25
Speaker 9: disagree with Nike shoes or apparel. Stephen Smith is employed
32:29
Speaker 9: by us, the taxpayers to represent Australia. If he's ashamed
32:32
Speaker 9: of Australia, if he won't celebrate our national day, then
32:35
Speaker 9: he's got no business taking that money and doing that job.
32:37
Speaker 9: He should be resigning.
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Speaker 2: Dave Sharma couldn't agree more very well, said, thank you
32:42
Speaker 2: so much for your time this evening. We'll catch up
32:43
Speaker 2: again soon. Now I want to move over to Los Angeles,
32:47
Speaker 2: where we have seen, of course, the horrific fires which
32:49
Speaker 2: we spoke about earlier in the show, spreading around the city.
32:53
Speaker 2: So many people are losing everything, and I want to
32:55
Speaker 2: talk now to my friend and advice gardess Amy alcon Amy.
32:59
Speaker 2: Thank yous, so what for joining me in this very
33:01
Speaker 2: difficult time here? Tell us it's around eleven thirty, I
33:05
Speaker 2: think at night in Los Angeles. What is the mood
33:08
Speaker 2: happening right now? Where are things up to? Are the
33:12
Speaker 2: firefighters starting to get a bite on some of these fires?
33:15
Speaker 5: No, I don't know, because I'm working very tirelessly on
33:20
Speaker 5: a book that's due. But you know, I have been
33:24
Speaker 5: watching a bit of the news, and they seem to
33:27
Speaker 5: be getting some hold in the Palisades, but seventy five
33:32
Speaker 5: percent of the Pacific Palisades burned down. This is this
33:35
Speaker 5: beautiful upscale neighborhood. I have friends there who lost their house.
33:40
Speaker 5: It's just you lose everything.
33:42
Speaker 3: You lose.
33:43
Speaker 5: One thing I talked about was worthless items that are
33:47
Speaker 5: actually really vital to our lives, Things that aren't valuable
33:50
Speaker 5: to anyone else, but that make up the history of
33:52
Speaker 5: our life, like my grandma's painting or books with annotations
33:56
Speaker 5: and those things. You don't think about it, but when
33:58
Speaker 5: they're gone, your history is gone, and a substantial part
34:02
Speaker 5: of the stuff that's important to you is gone, even
34:05
Speaker 5: though it's just stuff. And of course lives are the
34:07
Speaker 5: most important.
34:08
Speaker 2: Well, of course they are. But I mean, you know,
34:10
Speaker 2: we just see this incredible level of destruction here. And
34:13
Speaker 2: what is your reaction to the way some of the
34:16
Speaker 2: political leaders in California have been responding to this. We
34:19
Speaker 2: showed video earlier of Gavin Neuse of being confronted by
34:23
Speaker 2: an angry person, an angry Los Angeles resident. Have they
34:28
Speaker 2: been just missing an action in all of this? And
34:30
Speaker 2: how much of the politics of California have contributed do
34:33
Speaker 2: you think to where we are today?
34:36
Speaker 5: Very much? So I love that woman tracking him down.
34:39
Speaker 5: So the problem here is that we have what I
34:41
Speaker 5: call robo voting democrats. There she is, I love her,
34:45
Speaker 5: I won't give her an award.
34:47
Speaker 3: People vote for. They vote for the deep.
34:49
Speaker 5: You know, if you're progressive, they'll vote you, and they
34:51
Speaker 5: don't think about whether you would actually be good for
34:54
Speaker 5: the city. And we had a guy who was a
34:56
Speaker 5: Republican previously, Rick Caruso, who developed shopping successfully at a
35:02
Speaker 5: time when they're dying all over the country. He's a
35:04
Speaker 5: real estate developer. He ran the Department of Water and Power,
35:08
Speaker 5: and he has talked even before this about how La
35:12
Speaker 5: needs fire mitigation. They have in Ventura, my friend, they
35:16
Speaker 5: have goats. They hired goats, rented goats to have to
35:20
Speaker 5: clear their hillside regularly, and you need stuff like that.
35:23
Speaker 5: And the politicians here are mayor redirected apparently. So there's
35:28
Speaker 5: some note that this was not true, but she has
35:31
Speaker 5: not prioritized it. There was a note that she had
35:34
Speaker 5: redirected a substantial amount of money away from the firefighters.
35:37
Speaker 5: I just remember that I saw someone saying no, no, no,
35:39
Speaker 5: that's not right. So I don't know what the truth is.
35:41
Speaker 5: Sorry about that, but she is somebody who has never
35:45
Speaker 5: run a business, and really is she was in Ghana
35:50
Speaker 5: and some inauguration. I love how people get a job
35:53
Speaker 5: and they don't do it they go off and try
35:55
Speaker 5: to get a new job, a higher job. Whereas you know,
35:58
Speaker 5: Rick Caruso, he's the guy, he's made his money, he's
36:01
Speaker 5: probably a billionaire a few times over. He's the guy
36:04
Speaker 5: who would want to do all he could in office
36:08
Speaker 5: to make la better and safer and to stop the
36:11
Speaker 5: byzantine building codes that stop everyone from building. And now
36:15
Speaker 5: I mean there's going to be a big problem rebuilding
36:18
Speaker 5: houses because the things that were allowed before they won't
36:21
Speaker 5: allow now. Those health sides there that were lost, they
36:25
Speaker 5: are not going to have not be allowed to build
36:28
Speaker 5: on some of those health sides because the codes are
36:30
Speaker 5: different now.
36:31
Speaker 2: And of course also you know, the insurance companies have
36:34
Speaker 2: all been chased out of Los Angeles and California by
36:37
Speaker 2: the government there, which my understanding is basically forbid them
36:41
Speaker 2: from raising premium. So is there a real danger that
36:44
Speaker 2: people are going to wind up, you know, losing everything,
36:47
Speaker 2: not just physically but actually like not being able to
36:50
Speaker 2: be made right and made whole.
36:51
Speaker 3: This is for even just being able to get a
36:53
Speaker 3: roof over the head.
36:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, So people lost their insurance, some of them very recently.
36:58
Speaker 5: So their houses that burn down, they will not get recompense.
37:02
Speaker 5: For from the insurance companies. It's so terrible and that
37:06
Speaker 5: people should have been given the choice if they wanted
37:10
Speaker 5: to pay more for insurance to pay more, and instead
37:13
Speaker 5: the government never considering the unintended consequences of their actions
37:19
Speaker 5: because you know, people losing their homes and getting no compensation,
37:23
Speaker 5: that they would stop insurance companies from charging more. And
37:28
Speaker 5: really people always talk about corporate greed and everything, but
37:34
Speaker 5: you know this is look what happened insurance companies. I mean,
37:36
Speaker 5: you go broke if you had to pay for all
37:38
Speaker 5: these houses. And you know, people get different insurance. But
37:43
Speaker 5: this is a huge devastating thing. And in terms of
37:48
Speaker 5: like the whole landscape here the Palisades, that the shopping
37:51
Speaker 5: areas all gone, and Rick Caruso, who ran against our mayor,
37:57
Speaker 5: Mayor Bess, his shopping center is standing because he put
38:01
Speaker 5: in a tin roof or metal roof and he also
38:05
Speaker 5: used fire return and everything else in the palis Sades
38:08
Speaker 5: it's all gone. The high school's gone, so people's whole lives,
38:12
Speaker 5: everything's just ashes and a chimney.
38:15
Speaker 2: Absolutely horrible stuff. Amy, thank you so much for joining
38:18
Speaker 2: me in this evening. Thank you of staying up to
38:19
Speaker 2: have a chat and good luck with the book. Now
38:22
Speaker 2: coming up after the break is the net zero Dream
38:24
Speaker 2: over maybe not for our labor politicians, but over in America.
38:28
Speaker 2: The money is talking and it says something very nice. Indeed,
38:36
Speaker 2: welcome back James Mara here sitting in for Peter Kreteline.
38:39
Speaker 2: I spoke at the top of the show about the
38:41
Speaker 2: radical left policies that have helped to encourage the engulfing
38:45
Speaker 2: of the state of California in flames. The devastating wildfires
38:49
Speaker 2: that have killed at least seven and seen one hundred
38:51
Speaker 2: and eighty thousand residents of evacuate have woken up LA
38:55
Speaker 2: residents to the grassroots failure we could hope of their
38:58
Speaker 2: state's government. Hollywood stars have turned their backs on Democrats
39:02
Speaker 2: as facts have been laid in front of them, and
39:04
Speaker 2: you can only hope for a silver lining in these
39:07
Speaker 2: challenging times for Californians. But to unpack this and more,
39:11
Speaker 2: I want to bring in my good friend Menzies Research
39:14
Speaker 2: Center senior fellow, Nick cater Nick, Welcome to the program
39:18
Speaker 2: this evening. I want to talk first of all about
39:21
Speaker 2: you know, everybody says, oh, people on the conservative side
39:25
Speaker 2: of politics are politicizing these fires by saying, oh, well,
39:29
Speaker 2: all of these Democrat policies, you know, have made these
39:32
Speaker 2: fires a lot worse than they might already have been.
39:35
Speaker 2: But they turn around and make it entirely about politics
39:38
Speaker 2: by saying, oh, no, no, no, no. The whole thing that
39:40
Speaker 2: is respos for this is not us. It's the climate change.
39:43
Speaker 1: And they're in there so quickly with you, don't they.
39:45
Speaker 1: I mean, even before the forensic investigators have even got
39:48
Speaker 1: their notebooks out, you get the instant experts, you know,
39:51
Speaker 1: these experts on their laptops, pouring out the detailed analysis.
39:56
Speaker 1: This is climate change, It must be climate change. But
40:00
Speaker 1: when you look into it, of course, there are so
40:02
Speaker 1: many factors involved. It's a lot more complicated than that.
40:06
Speaker 1: I mean, I gave these Santa Arouna winds, for instance.
40:09
Speaker 1: They are always destructive when the fire takes hold, but
40:12
Speaker 1: there always needs somebody to light the fire, either somebody
40:16
Speaker 1: does it accidentally or what happens now, of course, is
40:19
Speaker 1: the power lines are the real course, the biggest cause
40:22
Speaker 1: of fires in California.
40:24
Speaker 2: And the mayor of Karen Bass she was warned before
40:27
Speaker 2: she went on this trip to Africa that the winds
40:31
Speaker 2: forecast there was a forecast for heavy winds, that she
40:34
Speaker 2: knew that there were in dry conditions, that all of
40:36
Speaker 2: the ingredients were there in it. It seems like a
40:39
Speaker 2: complete failure of leadership.
40:40
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and you know it's not unprecedented. It's the biggest
40:45
Speaker 1: fire for Los Angeles, but we're.
40:46
Speaker 3: Looking at some pictures of that right now on our screen.
40:48
Speaker 1: Often the biggest fire in California that was twenty eighteen.
40:52
Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, I mean always it is always
40:56
Speaker 1: about sort of that confirmation by yeah, that's the trouble
41:01
Speaker 1: with these instaitects, bursts, so trouble when you make somebody
41:04
Speaker 1: a climate change reporter, Yes, they're hardly going to say, well,
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Speaker 1: we're not sure whether this is climate change or not.
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Speaker 2: And yet if the tide seems to be shifting on
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Speaker 2: some of this though, because if we go stay in
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Speaker 2: the United States, I think this is absolutely fascinating because
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Speaker 2: it suggested to me things are really starting to change.
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Speaker 2: Several major banks have reportedly ditched and gotten out of
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Speaker 2: this thing called the net zero Alliance before Donald Trump's inauguration.
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Speaker 2: What do you make of this? Has this whole sort
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Speaker 2: of eco finance, green capitalism, is that now finally over?
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's over, but it's certainly crumbling. And
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Speaker 1: there was another move late last year when banks got
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Speaker 1: together in the United States and pledged to fund nuclear.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to support the tripling of nuclear power by
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Speaker 1: twenty thirty. So this is all a good sign. I
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Speaker 1: think at the end, banks get very pragmatic, don't they.
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Speaker 1: And these wind and solar projects are not financial stays
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Speaker 1: without big government substies. And if you get something like
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump coming in, who's clearly not going to be
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Speaker 1: putting out government subsisties for wind and solar.
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Speaker 2: But also, isn't it a bit sort of like you know,
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Speaker 2: wokeness in general, you know, because it's a bit of
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Speaker 2: a luxury good. But then once the economy starts to
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Speaker 2: turn down, you don't have zero interest rates anymore.
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Speaker 3: Money is suddenly tight. You kind of can't afford all
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Speaker 3: the urgasingly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've seen this right through Europe, right with energy
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Speaker 1: prices going up and the whole net zero project is
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Speaker 1: now on the back burner in places like Germany. No country,
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Speaker 1: as I understand in Western Europe is coming close to
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Speaker 1: meeting its goals for twenty thirty. This is the point
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Speaker 1: at which reality starts to buy everywhere, I think, excepting
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Speaker 1: the Energy Minister's office in Canberra.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you mentioned our friend, the Energy Minister
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Speaker 2: Chris Bowen, who I know is watching the program tonight. Hello, Minister,
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Speaker 2: A big fan of program. Chris Bowen, though he's now
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Speaker 2: being accused by the Coalition of weaponizing the public servants
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Speaker 2: against the Coalition over their nuclear policy. The Coalition says
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Speaker 2: that figures Chris Bowen has been boasting about which seemed
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Speaker 2: to undermine the case for the coaler's nuclear policy, have
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Speaker 2: been actually really kind of fiddled.
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Speaker 3: Tell us about it.
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Speaker 1: Number One, I don't think you'd trust Chris Bowen or
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Speaker 1: Labor on any predictions about energy prices. Number one, not
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Speaker 1: afterward they came up with last time round. But yeah,
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Speaker 1: he sent the bureaucrats away to do some very very
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Speaker 1: selective modeling based on his assumptions, which are not part
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Speaker 1: of the Coason's plan at all, and come back with
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Speaker 1: us keep a report that says, oh, this is terrible,
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Speaker 1: We've got to do away with it. But this is
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Speaker 1: the problem for Labor, isn't it. They don't really have
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Speaker 1: any strong arguments left against nuclear, so they're having to
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Speaker 1: make up data and just just go away.
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Speaker 2: But we all see the real truth about what's really
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Speaker 2: expensive in our power bills. Nick Cator, We're going to
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Speaker 2: have to leave it there for the moment. Thank you
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Speaker 2: so much for your time. Now come up next on
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Speaker 2: the program. Both parties have promised the world to Queensland
43:59
Speaker 2: this week, but what are the voters thinking? Former Queensland
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Speaker 2: Premier Campbell Newman joins me here talk about it. Welcome
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Speaker 2: back to the program. James Borrow here, sitting in for
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Speaker 2: Peter Kredlin. Well, you can tell an election is in
44:15
Speaker 2: the air with all the promises flying around out of
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Speaker 2: the mouths of Prime Minister Anthony al but easy this week.
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Speaker 2: Can you smell the public spending? But it is certainly
44:25
Speaker 2: good news for Queensland. Who has won promises from both
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Speaker 2: Labor and the Coalition this week? Talk about it is
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Speaker 2: former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Campbell, thanks so much for
44:35
Speaker 2: joining me. Now the Bruce Highway is getting an absolute
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Speaker 2: ton of funding no matter who wins this election, assuming
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Speaker 2: either side keeps the promise, I take it this as
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Speaker 2: good news for Queensland.
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Speaker 11: Well, it sure is good news for Queensland, but it's
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Speaker 11: well and truly over Jue James, and I know there's
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Speaker 11: some disquiet in some of the other states about the
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Speaker 11: funding model eighty twenty, which it should be. By the way,
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Speaker 11: it's now Queensland's time to get this road fixed. I mean,
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Speaker 11: it's a vital artery. It's seventeen hundred kilometers long and
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Speaker 11: I've driven at many times different sections or the whole
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Speaker 11: road on some journeys and it really is very, very dangerous.
45:17
Speaker 11: It is time to get this fixed. The only state
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Speaker 11: in my view that has similar issues but not the
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Speaker 11: population to be supported is WA. New South Wales has
45:29
Speaker 11: great highways connecting Brisbane and Melbourne Victoria. You know, it's
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Speaker 11: a small state, has fantastic roads. South Australia again doesn't
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Speaker 11: have the population based so it's Queensland's time. This has
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Speaker 11: to be fixed.
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Speaker 3: Forty plus people.
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Speaker 11: Died on this road last year and it's time to
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Speaker 11: get on with it. And I'm plues that both the
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister and Peter Dutton are recognizing that.
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Speaker 2: I'm a bit cynical though, because I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: this government counts a whole lot of infrastructure spending at
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Speaker 2: the start of their term and then all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden now, you know, with weeks before the Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: goes to the Governor General to deserve Parliament, you know,
46:10
Speaker 2: suddenly it's like, oh hey, here's a munch of money
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Speaker 2: for this. I mean, our Queenslanders cynicle at all about
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Speaker 2: what's going on.
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Speaker 11: Well, if we outturned to the politics, you're dead right.
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Speaker 11: So I'd like to always sort of be fair to
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Speaker 11: the announcements that are made. But yes, and when I
46:28
Speaker 11: was premier, the Rudd government was pretty hell. Then on
46:31
Speaker 11: I've been fifty to fifty and even the Abbott government
46:35
Speaker 11: was initially but they then came to the party. As
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Speaker 11: to what will happen out of this, I don't think
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Speaker 11: it'll move the needle in terms of Queensland federal politics.
46:45
Speaker 11: The Labor Party might pick up Wihart the retirement of
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Speaker 11: Warren Inch. However, in Metropolitan Brisbane, I think that the
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Speaker 11: LMP will reclaim the Western Brisbane seat of Ryan from
46:59
Speaker 11: the Greens. And I've got a great candidate, young Barrister
47:02
Speaker 11: Maggie Forrest.
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Speaker 3: Who's the candidate.
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Speaker 11: I think she's there to win it. The seat of
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Speaker 11: Brisbane which was held by Trevor Evans. He's also the
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Speaker 11: candidate again for the LNP. He could reclaim that from
47:16
Speaker 11: the Greens or it will go to Labor, So no
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Speaker 11: real change there, and then the Labor Party I think
47:22
Speaker 11: will have a really red hot go at winning Griffith
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Speaker 11: back from Green's Max Chandler May. So, you know, I
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Speaker 11: think the net position in Queensland won't change irrespective of
47:33
Speaker 11: promises like the Bruce Highway commitment.
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Speaker 2: But what you were just saying though, that sounds like
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Speaker 2: you know the Coalition could pick up a scene or
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Speaker 2: two net overall out of Queensland at the election.
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Speaker 11: Well if they can, well, if they can, they'll pick
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Speaker 11: up Ryan, very confident about that. They could pick up
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Speaker 11: Brisbane or it just stays with the left wing and
47:57
Speaker 11: you know the potential to retain like well, I'm not
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Speaker 11: sure about that one. That's where this decision. Well there's
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Speaker 11: funding sort of first move or advantage of Albow. Maybe
48:10
Speaker 11: does the trick you've got an candidate up there the
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Speaker 11: Labor Party.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think so that the problems with the
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Speaker 2: CFF you not being involved, will that help or hurt
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Speaker 2: the coalition here?
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Speaker 11: I think it's really important for the Coalition to remind
48:24
Speaker 11: people of the CFMEU tax because that's what it is.
48:27
Speaker 11: The large s that's been permitted under these feather bettered
48:32
Speaker 11: agreements by the former State Labor government have increased the
48:35
Speaker 11: costs of all sorts of public works. And I would
48:39
Speaker 11: guess that Peter Darton would continue to hammer that, and
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Speaker 11: he should, and christ of Fooley's government need to make
48:45
Speaker 11: sure that these guys are told that the game is up,
48:50
Speaker 11: that they don't get to play this anymore. I mean,
48:52
Speaker 11: I was having a look around showing a guest from
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Speaker 11: Sydney the New Casino on the weekend. We're talking to
48:58
Speaker 11: one of the small business operators there and the shopping
49:02
Speaker 11: story is about the way that you have to use them,
49:06
Speaker 11: you person to do a fit out.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to have to leave it there. We're running
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Speaker 2: out of time. Thank you so much so for your
49:12
Speaker 2: time in walking us through Queensland politics this evening. Now
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Speaker 2: that's it for me this week. Thank you so much
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Speaker 2: for watching. Peter Cretelin will be back here on Monday.
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Speaker 2: You can see me at the US Report on Fridays
49:21
Speaker 2: and of course Outsiders on Sunday. Stay tuned now for
49:24
Speaker 2: the Bull Report with Danika to Georgio