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gay pop culture moments that keep me up at night · gasp! the pod

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Like seeing Lil Nas X grind on the Devil is less frightening to
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me than seeing JoJo Sewell grind on a woman on a real
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Welcome back, guys, to Gasp the pod, the podcast for the girls,
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the gays, and especially the gay girls.
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I'm your host, Haley. I've realized I haven't actually
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said my name in many of the episodes, but I'm Haley.
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I will be your host today. Feel like my pride flags need to
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be like up in center a little bit more, especially today.
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Well, here they are. This episode we're talking fake
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coming outs, celebrity gay sex rumors, celebrity dating rumors,
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Satanist allegations, and bisexual whores.
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I can say it because I'm bisexual.
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Not all bisexuals are whores, but some of us are.
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It is a huge month for this podcast Gast the pod, because as
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I mentioned, this podcast is for the gays, the girls, and
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especially the gay girls. And almost every single episode
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I put out, literally I think 99% of them, part of it has to do
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with the gays, but I wanted to do something specifically
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special for this pride month and talk about some of the craziest
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and specifically my favorite gay pop culture moments of our time
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to hopefully make you gasp many times over.
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Oh, these are so funny. Like I had such a good time
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doing research and research is a strong word for this episode.
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But I'm not simply listing moments.
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We're going in on why these things exploded, why they're
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important to me, and why they're important for the gays.
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Let's begin. I'm going to start with a moment
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that I think is so widely talked about already.
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And sometimes we have those moments and sometimes they're
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iconic for a reason, right? Also, if you're watching on
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video, I am wearing my Gasp the Pod I'm Gay shirt.
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I'm gay question mark exclamation point.
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Sure it is available on my merch site but I wear the shirt all
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the time. You just promote myself.
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But I think it's country and what's more prideful than
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Rainbow wearing an I'm Gay shirt?
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Hope everyone has had and is having a very good pride month
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and forgetting about the turmoils of our world.
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The first moment I want to talk about is Pink's Fake coming out.
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I don't care how much this is talked about, it is still one of
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the funniest things that has ever happened to gay culture
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society. So Pink actually said this over
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15 years ago, 16 years ago might I add, during the 2010 HRC
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National dinner while accepting the Ally for Equality award.
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Which is pretty ironic that it's the Ally award because she comes
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out and then takes it back. It's so fucking crazy.
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What do you mean she took it back?
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Now the only thing I will say before I get into what she said,
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because actually I don't think many people have heard her whole
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speech about this, which makes it a little bit better.
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And there's some annoying people out there that are like, guys,
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it's actually good for us that she did this and she was trying
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to help. I will partially agree with that
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even though I think that's really fucking annoying.
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Only because it was 2010. If it was 2015 and on, shut the
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fuck up and don't center yourself, ally.
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However, I see what she was trying to do because in 2010 we
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didn't have many gay allies. But if you were unaware of the
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situation and you live under a rock, pretty much.
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She's accepting an award and she pauses and says I'm gay.
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And then everyone's like what? Just like this shirt, I'm gay.
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And then she goes, actually I'm not like what?
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Again? She would get reamed for this if
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this was present day. I'm gay, actually I'm not, but
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that doesn't actually matter. She says actually I'm not, but
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that doesn't matter. My point is, I would like in the
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world the same boring response that I get from hi, I'm a Virgo.
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I would like from hi, I'm gay to elicit the same kind of response
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or like, yeah, like, OK, great. Nice to meet you.
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I totally see what she's trying to say.
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I think this is fucking hilarious.
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And I also think it's so funny that she's like, I would like
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this. I would like this.
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Like that's so ally to be like, it's all about me.
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So for that, she does get the Ally award because that's the
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most Ally shit ever. And I will say in 2010, this was
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actually very good to center yourself and make people think
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you were actually gay because at that time you were not getting
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fun bonus diversity points in the media for being queer.
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Now, in the fake parts of our world like Hollywood and the
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Internet, it is beneficial for you to be queer.
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But in real day-to-day situations, it's actually not at
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all. So that's why this would not fly
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now. And I also will say it's not
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always beneficial to be gay now in the media.
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Like conservatism has hit media too, of course, always.
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But back then it was a whole other level.
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And then she continues this. It's like she's talking herself
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in circles. I don't want there to be gay
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marriage. She literally says I don't want
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there to be gay marriage. But of course there's a meaning
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to why she's saying this. She goes, I just want there to
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be happy marriage and lasting marriage and healthy marriage.
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No, again, if she said this in 2026, that'd be the stupidest
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thing. It's like, I don't see color.
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But I will say in 2010, I think that that's a very different
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context. I look forward to a day when we
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don't have to talk about it anymore.
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It's so funny because everything out of context seems so
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homophobic. But she says that's far off.
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We all want to be loved and accepted and understood and
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unfortunately the human race has not figured this out yet.
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What I mean by that is, and it's like, girl, why are you still
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talking? We all bleed red, we all cry
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real tears. So true.
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We all put 1 foot in front of the other on this endless search
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for the meaning of life and love.
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It's all about love. Exactly, Queen.
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Oh, and she keeps going. I'm not actually done.
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It's about who your heart tells you to love, straight or gay.
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I applaud anyone and everyone who has the balls to follow
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their heart. Like, yes, Queen, I actually
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stand her. I think this is the funniest
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shit ever. And I will say she is a classic
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example of sometimes the gayest looking people are actually
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straight. And then the straightest looking
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people, quote UN quote, Taylor Swift is actually gay.
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And I don't want to actually say that she looks straight to me
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because Taylor Swift doesn't look straight to me.
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But to society. We get it.
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So that's up there is one of the funniest things that anyone's
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ever said into a microphone. I'm gay.
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Actually, I'm not. You can't beat it.
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Next, let's talk about something a little like, oh, what?
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Oh, no, how? When is that true?
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We're talking about Leonardo DiCaprio allegedly not wanting
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to have straight beep St. sex. I don't know why people bleep
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shit out. It's the Internet, you can say
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sex. I say it all the time.
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Leonardo DiCaprio allegedly makes women he has sex with wear
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headphones during the act. Now I'm saying allegedly so many
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times because I'm getting this information from blind items,
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Reddit and people talking around Hollywood.
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And if you are a long time listener of Gasp the pod, you
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may remember I did an episode with my friend Maddie Kane, who
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works in Hollywood and we talked about secretly gay men of
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Hollywood. And Leonardo DiCaprio is one of
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those prime examples. And maybe we'll do another
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episode really going in on Leo. But he has a lot of gay rumors
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and kind of for a good reason. There's this theory that he has
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this whole 25 year old girl shtick where he refuses to date
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anyone over the age of 25. I do think his current
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girlfriend is 28. Oh good job he's like 50 he has
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this shtick and he could easily break it and date like someone
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maybe in her 30s or heaven forbid in her 40s.
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Still like a decade younger than him could easily break it but he
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doesn't got the sirens in this motherfucking city.
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No cops at pride. Because it is better in
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Hollywood to have this idea that you are a man whore and you get
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laid than being gay still to this day.
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So that is a beneficial character idea of a character
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for him. Like he would always want this.
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And I think that that's been on purpose, curated for him so that
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no one thinks that he's gay because they're like, oh, a man
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like that, how could he be gay? So there's multiple things here.
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Some people think he's bisexual. Some people think he's gay.
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I don't know a specific label, but I do think there's something
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gay happening. OK.
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But the idea is that he hires yacht girls and these, like,
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young girls that are trying to get into the industry as
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girlfriends. It plays along with this whole
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idea of being this Playboy and then sends them off on their way
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to have beautiful, flourishing careers as actresses and models.
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And they get to like, you know, meet all this famous people and
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they go on vacation with him. But really, he's also mostly
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going on vacation for these specific men, Tom Brady, Tobey
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Maguire, Lucas Haas, who also have gate rumors.
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It's like they're little gay vacation.
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But the rumor, the specific rumor here, that is so fucking
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crazy. And then when this blind item
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came out, it was crazy because a lot of people on the Internet
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then we're like, I've heard the same thing.
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I've heard the same thing. I've heard the same thing.
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It's beyond him being gay. It's that when he does have sex
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with women, if he does have sex with women, because he could be
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bisexual, people forgot he makes women wear headphones and he
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wears them too. And then here's where the rumor,
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you know, diverts in different paths.
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Some say it's noise cancelling for him and her, whoever her may
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be. Some say he listens to gay porn.
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Some say it's podcasts. Some say it's random music.
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But the fact that they're united and the fact that there are
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headphones involved and that it is usually in a certain style
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that emulates some gay sex. And I just think that that's
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such a specific and crazy rumor, and it would be on track with
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the gay rumors we've heard about Mr. Leonardo DiCaprio.
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This is the blind item as it's listed.
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And then of course we get a lot of other blinds that follow up
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on this and on Reddit and people's stories etcetera.
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So this is from entertainment lawyer quote.
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It isn't music that the permanent A+ actor plays and
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listens to while he has sex with women.
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The audio is 2 men having sex while music plays.
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The actor can't quote perform with women without it.
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He doesn't need it when having sex with men, though.
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Leonardo DiCaprio, this is alleged.
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This is alleged when Nikki Glazer during an award show
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roast. I want to say it was the Golden
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Globes recently, like this year. She's like, Leo, we don't know
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anything else about you. We only know that you date
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models that are like 25. And it's like, right, Nikki?
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Because that's intentional. So yeah, he allegedly wears
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headphones and makes women wear headphones when they have sex.
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That's a crazy gay pop culture moment that we all found out
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about. And if you haven't heard about
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it, I'm sorry that you now have to picture that in your head.
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Because I did, and now you all have to too.
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Also, I have a new bonus up out. This is a new one.
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I rate the top five gayest Taylor Swift songs.
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This is on Spotify and on Patreon.
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It's only audio on Spotify. It is video on Patreon.
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This was so hard, but so fun for me to do.
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Obviously, Taylor Swift has so many gay fucking songs and it
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was so hard for me to come up with what I think are her top
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five gayest ones. Go watch it.
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Go listen to it and let me know how you differ.
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I know this is going to be controversial so pride is still
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available if you want it. 50% of the proceeds of the ME out now
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Taylor Swift themed Pride sure is going to the national LGBTQ
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task force where I worked. Love them, great organization
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and please subscribe rate me 5 stars.
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Also subscribe on Spotify. Apparently that's important too.
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I have lately been getting some homophobes and huddlers that
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just like go to my page and then like report me or rate me really
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low because they're side streets that are probably gay and don't
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want to realize that about themselves.
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So then they're projecting it out on me.
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But they should probably just get ready for their freshman
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year of high school. So that would be amazing.
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And those are all the updates. Happy pride.
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Let's get back to the episode. All right, next moment.
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These gay pop culture moments, it's so funny because they're so
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drastically like on different planes of like the Internet, but
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they're all united and how gay they are.
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This is JoJo Siwa's rebrand. JoJo Siwa has lived so many
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lives in her young, young life. But it was only 2024, two years
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ago, that JoJo Siwa decided to unleash her new rebrand.
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A rebrand from what exactly? Because it didn't seem like much
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of A rebrand, she just started wearing black clothing.
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JoJo released her song and the music video that went along with
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it called Karma in 2024 as her Rated R Bad Girl rebrand.
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And before that, JoJo Siwa was like a child Dancing star,
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right? Like she wore bows and rainbow
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and sparkles. She wore rainbow long before she
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actually like came out as gay. And I really beg of you guys to
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go rewatch the Karma music video because I started watching it
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and I wanted to save my reaction to this video because I started
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watching and I was like holy shit.
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I have not watched this since it initially came out and I forgot
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how crazy good it is in an ironic way.
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I beg of you guys to go watch it.
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It's hilarious. So all of a sudden she started
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wearing black back and she was like, I'm going to be edgy now.
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She still was censoring the songs.
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It's not like she started saying like, fuck and like all this
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stuff. It was just that she was like
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catering to a more adult audience.
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And she just started wearing like black sequins.
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She looked like a KISS member and that was her big transition.
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So in an interview during the 2024 GLAAD Media Awards with
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Billboard, she's talking about her rebrand and she goes, quote,
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no one has made this dramatic of a change yet.
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No one has made in my generation this extreme of a switch.
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I am the first in my generation and it is very scary, but
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someone's got to do it. No one has made this dramatic of
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a change yet. No one has made in my generation
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this extreme of a switch and I am the first in the generation.
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It is very scary but. You can't make this shit up and
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I love JoJo Siwa because you got to give her some credit.
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She entertains us relentlessly even when we don't want to be
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entertained. She will do things that are
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unpopular and because they're so unpopular it makes her popular.
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She will just push out things that no one wants to see and
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then somehow finds a new pocket of fans like in England and new
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straight people. I mean guys Karma this was
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released only one year before she starts randomly dating a
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man. Now that's the rebrand that
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should have been her Karma rebrand.
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Karma music video where she's like I'm gay dating all these
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girls and all of a sudden she is dating a man.
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Yes, I know how bisexuality works.
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I have a whole episode on JoJo Siwa and why it's so crazy, but
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I'm not going to go in on it right now.
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The karma thing is so fucking funny.
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I'm going to watch part of it right now because the dance
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sends me every time and I'll put what part I'm watching on the
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screen. She's almost like a mermaid or
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something. Karma before Taylor Swift's
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karma. God, she's jumping off the boat.
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Wait, her singing underwater is crazy.
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Her appearing from under the water is going to haunt me and
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my nightmares like white. Oh I'm sorry to everyone who's
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listening in audio, this won't be like the rest of the episode,
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but this is crazy. I had to stop when she started
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like twerking and grinding on that poor girl.
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Oh my God. Please go watch it.
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We're going to give her a bunch of streams today.
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Plus combined with the JoJo Siwa cruise.
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She doesn't know how funny she is and that's why she's so
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funny. And that's camp and that's pop
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culture. Let's move on to a similar
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grinding moment and another gay star, Lil Nas X grinding on the
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devil. This was all the fucking drama
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in like 2021. It doesn't feel like it was that
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long ago though. So first of all, Lil Nazaks came
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out as gay in 2019. And this is after he posted his
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album cover 7 which had a rainbow on one of the buildings.
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And when he came out people were like whoa like this is such a
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shock. And he tweeted this iconic
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tweet. Dead ass.
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Thought I made it obvious about putting the rainbow in the
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building, cough, cough, Gayler. Like that's what we're talking
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about where like these artists think that they're being so
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obvious with being gay and then no one picks up on it.
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But moving on. And I'll have another little
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gayler moment in this episode as well because I have to.
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I'm like addicted to it. In the music video for the song
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Montero Call Me by your Name, which I was always wondering how
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he didn't get sued for that because of the call me by your
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name. You know, movie with Timothy
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Chalamet before he turned evil. People freak out about this
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music video. It's funnily enough not as
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jaw-dropping as JoJo Siwa and Karma.
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Like seeing Lil Nas X grind on the devil is less frightening to
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me than seeing JoJo Siwa grind on a woman on a real human
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woman. So the music video is him
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grinding on a devil? Who the fuck cares?
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Republicans freak out, unsurprisingly.
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Kristi Noem is an example of someone who freaks out.
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Ironically, her husband is outed as a cross stressor with huge
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plastic tits. And it's like, why don't you
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focus on the gays at home? You're focused on Little Nas X
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and saying that Little Nas is corrupting children and putting
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out evil content. There's evil in your basement
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and he's wearing huge plastic tits and there's nothing evil
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with cross dressing or being trans.
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But there is something evil about when Christy Nomes husband
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does it. And I don't have to explain why
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a bunch of Republicans were mad about this, including a
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congressional candidate, Robbie Starbuck.
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Hello. Is that related to Starbucks?
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Anyways they're all pissed about it.
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Lil Nas X says y'all love saying we going to hell but get upset
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when we actually go there. When I actually go there LMAO
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that's actually hilarious and makes perfect sense to me.
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What's so specifically crazy about this gay pop culture news
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and this music video is that like you think it's going to be
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like so sexual but I'm so sorry. The quality of the video editing
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is so bad and the meme of him dropping down on a pole and like
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flying around is just hilarious. I'm going to add the picture in
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the YouTube and like when he is grinding on the devil, like I
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don't know if the devil's him or what.
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It's not. It's like awkward.
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I'm like, you don't have chemistry with the devil and
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then he like kills the devil and becomes the devil.
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It's hilarious because Republicans freak out about this
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but in reality they were focused on the wrong shit.
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Because I will agree that what part of this is crazy?
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And something that I don't necessarily support because of
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so many reasons ethically and not because it involves Satan or
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Satanism, which I'm pretty sure Satanists are like kind of
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peaceful. Now.
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Someone check on that for me. Like I think they were like
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supporting Kamala Harris. No one told Republicans that
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because of these Satan sneakers he released.
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I don't know if you guys heard about this.
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This part's actually fucking insane.
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So Lil Nas Acts releases unofficial Satan Nikes.
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This is CNN article containing human blood.
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He sells exactly 666 of them. And not to be this bitch but I
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am kind of like damn do you support the devil like one?
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First of all, how did you think you weren't going to get sued?
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They bought Nikes and then edited them pretty much and then
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resold them. Like, so all the news went out
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that Nike sued them. Nike didn't sue because of the
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blood thing. Nike sued because they were
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like, you bought our Nikes. And then it made it look like,
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of course that wasn't going to work.
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But it's featuring a bronze pentagram and inverted cross and
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a drop of real human blood. And they sold out almost
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immediately. It was a collaboration with a
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New York based art collective, Mischief spelled MSCHF and they
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were made using Nike Air Max 90 sevens.
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Even though Nike like put out a statement and they're like we
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don't what the fuck is going on. So it has a Bible passage of
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Luke 1018 that reads I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
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Each shoe's air bubble sole contains 60 cubic centimeters of
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red ink and then one drop of human blood.
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If you're wondering where that human blood comes from, that was
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my first question too. I'm like, OK, maybe the children
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thing, maybe there's a concern what's happening here.
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But apparently Mischief donated blood from their own art
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collective members and they said, quote, we love to
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sacrifice for our art. You guys are freaks.
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Any Brooklyn based art collective, Sue me.
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You guys are a little bit freaks and I bet these are like white
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indie men. OK so Lil Nas apologized quote
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UN quote for the shoe. But after a few seconds in the
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apology video it cuts the scene from his music video showing him
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dancing on the devil. Like you can't actually make
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this up. It's so stupid and serious at
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the same time. Like you can't take this
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seriously. Like he's not making an actual
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point about Satan. I think the music video is
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hilarious. The shoes are fucking crazy.
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The whole thing is wack. Like it's great.
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This is gay pop culture and this mischief collected.
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They're just the stupidest. It's just the stupidest shave
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ever seen in your life. It's like rich people or people
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that are just honestly, they've got too much time on their hands
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because listen to what they said.
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They've dropped laptops before. They've been installed with some
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of the world's most dangerous computer viruses for over $1.3
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million. Like you guys.
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Such a bad example for young people everywhere.
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Now everyone thinks Gen. Z gays are like this.
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Sometimes Republicans are right. I think the blood thing was
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crazy. That's actually kind of crazy.
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But not when it's just the music video.
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Anyways, moving on to another gay pop culture moment.
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And this is not one moment, but more like many moments.
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I don't think we're talking about enough.
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And I think when someone shows who they are over and over and
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over again, we need to believe them.
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I think when we see people that like look straight or seem
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straight, especially like cookie cutter white men, cookie cutter
24:16
white women, we immediately go queer baiter.
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And I want to push me because I do this sometimes too, me and
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everyone else here to say, what if they're coming out to us?
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What if the queer baiting is really just them wanting to be
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queer in public and they're probably just bisexual and a
24:34
whore? And that's what I have to say
24:37
about Stephen Colbert. This moment is called Stephen
24:39
Colbert being a bisexual whore. Do you know how many people he's
24:43
kissed during his own show? He has a loving and devoted
24:48
wife, but also open relationships exist be you can
24:52
kiss friends and a lot of relationships, like grow up.
24:55
And before anyone says like, OK, these people always kiss men to
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like get a ride out of the career community.
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No, it's women too. That's what makes this so
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awesome. That's what makes him bisexual
25:04
whore. So let me list off all the
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people that he's actually kissed on his show or other places.
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But on air always, it's seeming like it's pure desire to.
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It doesn't seem like it's baiting.
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I just really feel like he wants to kiss people and like he uses
25:20
the show as an excuse. Pedro Pascal I mean, that was an
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intimate, amazing kiss. And it's not always with
25:28
straight people that he's kissing.
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He's also kissing queer people, Pedro.
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And that's how you know someone's not queer baiting
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because a lot of straights, they think it's funny to kiss other
25:36
straight people because it's like, Oh my gosh, ha ha.
25:38
We would never be interested in each other.
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But I find it interesting when they actually kiss someone who
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is queer because then you have to accept maybe they would like
25:48
me. And now you're dealing with
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that. And if you aren't kind of queer,
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you usually stray away from that unnecessarily, I think, because
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you're like, oh, I don't want to be queer.
25:57
And maybe that makes them queer too.
25:59
But anyways, kissing queer people as a street person and
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wanting to, that's that's a sign.
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That's a good sign. At the end of the day, isn't
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everything a sign of being queer?
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So Pedro Pascal, Sally Fields, Andrew Garfield, Helen Mirren,
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Allison Janney, Jeff Daniels, Julia, Louis Dreyfus, Conan
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O'Brien, Jimmy Fallon, all these people he has kissed, that's
26:26
bisexual whore behavior and that's all I have to say about
26:29
that. RIP to the Late Show with
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Stephen Colbert. Also, Stephen Colbert is like a
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huge fan of Lord of the Rings, and I think that is epitome of
26:38
bisexual interests right there. So adding that to that.
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Now we're moving on to a series of moments from one person that
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tends to have a lot of gay pop culture moments.
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And one of these things isn't really gay, but it just is,
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like, falls within gay pop culture.
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But the first one is gay and it is sapphic.
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And I don't even necessarily think, no, I take it back
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because this person we're talking about is Jennifer
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Lawrence. She might be so straight that
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she tends to be in pop culture moments because I feel like the
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amount that she watches housewives she might be a good
27:15
straight but I also would not be surprised if she was bisexual.
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Anyways, this moment of when she kissed on the red carpet.
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Natalie Dormer. It is an accidental kiss but it
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is so intimate and it lives rent free in my mind.
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And if you guys haven't seen this video, please do.
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This happens in 2015 during the London premiere of The Hunger
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Games. Mockingjay Part 2.
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Remember Hunger Games? What a time to be alive.
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I was a huge Hunger Games fan and I dressed up in theaters at
27:45
the midnight premieres. And I actually want to take back
27:47
what I said before about Jennifer Lawrence being
27:49
straight. I think Jennifer Lawrence is
27:51
absolutely bisexual. How dare I said that because
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Natalie Dormer is doing an interview because she was
27:57
actually in this movie. I completely forgot at the
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premiere on the red carpet, she's doing an interview and
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Jennifer Lawrence comes up to sneakily like give her a kiss on
28:05
the cheek, which right, this is so queer for her and sapphic to
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just be like, I'm going to give her a kiss.
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And as she turns to kiss her, Natalie turns her head and they
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literally kiss on the mouth. It's not full mouth to mouth,
28:20
but the hint of it is what makes it so intimate.
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And it is so funny how it happens.
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Like it just looks. It's just intimate.
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I don't know how else to describe it.
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They literally go and you can like hear the sound and then JJ
28:34
Law goes, Oh my God, I'm sorry. They laugh.
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Natalie like covers up her mouth like it's so sapphic.
28:41
And then Jay goes, we just kissed on camera and says and I
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liked it. Sorry, I'm stupid.
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She's gay. Like I don't know what I'm
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talking about. Then Natalie like, wipes
28:50
lipstick off her face hot. And then when she leaves the
28:53
interview, she goes, I'll get Jennifer Lawrence off my face.
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Like, iconic, iconic, iconic, iconic.
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OK, then a quick moment before we get to the real moment here
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is when she showed up drunk on a red carpet.
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And I actually think she was high during this moment.
29:07
But what do I know? This is, like, so funny to me
29:10
because the picture and this meme of her staring so blankly
29:14
into the camera just fries me. And it lives in my brain all the
29:18
time. This is during a 2018 New York
29:21
premiere of her movie Red Sparrow.
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And she said on Ellen, this is so funny that it was on Ellen.
29:28
Like, remember when Ellen was just like the epitome of like
29:31
where we talked about our pop culture moments when you were
29:34
viral, you went on Ellen. If I was viral in 2015, I would
29:38
have been on Ellen at this point.
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And also, I actually was on Ellen, but not as a guest, Avi.
29:43
I was in the crowd. That's another story.
29:45
She said on Ellen that during the premiere of this, the New
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York premiere of Red Sparrow, which who I don't know, that she
29:56
drank too much wine during a taping of Watch What Happens
29:59
Live that day, which is so funny that she went to that that day
30:03
and then went on Stephen Colbert, took shots with him and
30:07
then showed up to the premiere and was like super drunk and I
30:11
guess had to like lock in. And she says on Ellen that she
30:15
was like, don't look drunk, don't look drunk, but she looks
30:18
high and drunk. It's so funny.
30:20
It's mostly the picture that's important for this moment that
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makes this a classic pop culture gay moment.
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I don't know why it's gay. It just is because also pop
30:30
culture is gay. We realize that, right?
30:32
So please look up this picture if you're not watching on video.
30:35
And then of course, the most important Jennifer Lawrence gay
30:40
pop culture moment is her asking about Kaler.
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And when I looked up this video, the whole video, it actually
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just adds so much more to the lore.
30:51
Because when you realize the crowd and the context of what
30:56
type of interview they're in has so little to do with Karlie
31:01
Kloss and Taylor Swift, it has so little to do with, like,
31:04
entertainment. It's actually more about Russian
31:06
spies. So it's a 2018 panel interview
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with The New York Times during press for Red Sparrow.
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A lot happened with Red Sparrow. It's a Times Talks DC panel
31:19
interview. So she's there with Red Sparrow
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and it's kind of like a serious, kind of like stuffy interview.
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She's actually at the museum. If you guys know what the museum
31:30
is. I think they tore it down,
31:32
question mark. But I used to go all the time.
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It was just like a big thing to do in DC.
31:36
But they went to the museum and they're doing this interview.
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They're talking about like, because Red Sparrow is about
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like Russian spies. They're kind of talking about
31:43
kind of talking about the administration, talking about
31:46
espionage. Like it's kind of a serious, not
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like a Hardy har har interview. Like, we're not an Ellen.
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We're certainly not an Andy Cohen.
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OK, we are with the New York Times journalists and this young
32:00
film student asks this question before we even get to the Kaler
32:04
part. They're talking about why she
32:06
did this movie. And she said and the paycheck,
32:09
something about the paycheck. And like, I would have done that
32:11
any day. And everyone's kind of like, oh,
32:14
like it. Everyone like laughs.
32:16
But she's like should have checked with my media person
32:18
like, and that's why I love Jennifer Lawrence.
32:20
She was a little like girl boss feminist.
32:22
But she has her moments. She doesn't try to be too
32:26
serious, even in rooms that are very serious.
32:30
And the room is kind of like not ready to be like, yay money,
32:35
like, you know what I mean? So that's the vibe.
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A film student has the mic and she's like asking this very
32:41
serious question, being like, you're a role model for me and
32:44
women in film. And if you had the skills in
32:48
real life, you know, to figure out classified secrets, that's
32:52
kind of the vibe. What top secret would you like
32:54
to be able to figure out? And it's like, again, not like,
32:58
oh, what's secret about media? It's like, what secret?
33:02
Like, it's kind of intense. She says first under her breath,
33:05
The fuck's going on in the White House?
33:07
Which, like, even that appeared to be scandalous for this crowd.
33:11
So get ready for what the fuck else she says.
33:14
And then she goes and there's silence.
33:16
Like, the crowd is not giving her much.
33:19
She goes, I mean, honestly, I like to know what's going on
33:22
between Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift.
33:25
People laugh. I think people are laughing
33:28
because they think that she's talking about their friendship.
33:31
And then she's like, there's a pause.
33:34
This is so crazy. There's a pause and this is
33:38
2018. Like this isn't 2016 like this
33:41
is before they did this selfie Taylor and Carly during the 2018
33:46
reputation to our Nashville confirming that they're like
33:49
still quote UN quote friends. So it's kind of like, you know,
33:52
she's a Taylor because why else would you be thinking about this
33:56
in 2018, right? And then there's a pause, very
33:59
awkwardly, literally. And then she goes like, that's
34:03
the honest to God truth. And then people are still kind
34:05
of not really saying anything. No one's laughing.
34:07
No one helps her. She goes, is nobody else just
34:10
like curious? It's keeping me up at night.
34:12
What happened? Like she, she's such a Kaler and
34:17
no one cares in this room. And that's what makes it so much
34:20
funny. You're like, this is me to my
34:22
family. Like this is me in rooms where I
34:24
shouldn't be talking about Gaylor, but I am like, she is
34:27
one of us. And it's just one of the most
34:30
iconic moments of all time. Kaler became so mainstream, but
34:35
so few A Listers have talked about it.
34:37
And that's how I know the A Listers are aware of it.
34:42
And that's why this is so poignant in Kaylor history and
34:46
also Gaylor history and of course gay pop culture history.
34:49
Finally, we are going to end on the best ship of all time, the
34:55
best gay ship of all time. It is, of course, Barack Obama
35:01
and Harry Styles. Ho Bama.
35:04
And this is so near and dear, to my horror, as someone who thinks
35:07
Harry Styles is queer and also someone who dreams of Barack
35:10
Obama every night and wishes he would come back to us.
35:14
This is so important to me. And do I believe it's true?
35:18
Yeah. This is from fan lore, some
35:21
description about, like, what happened.
35:24
But pretty much the source of it is from 2014.
35:27
The National Examiner, Like, this is a fucking tabloid,
35:31
right? Puts out this article that says
35:34
Obama had gay lifestyle to be president, and it says marriage
35:38
to Michelle is a sham. And then it says he had sex with
35:41
this man and an arrow that points to Harry's Styles.
35:45
Now, apparently that picture unfortunately, devastatingly
35:50
turned out to be a photoshopped image of an actual tabloid.
35:53
However, the tabloid did claim that Barack Obama had an affair
35:58
with a different man. But then someone added Harry
36:02
Styles and it became Obama, which is so important to me and
36:06
everyone and else and gay pop culture history.
36:08
And I do think there's a lot of people would that would have
36:10
never heard about this. I want to pull America and just
36:14
see and the UK and just see if anyone's heard about this
36:18
before. This is the most connected, I
36:20
think are two nations or two. God, no offense, Brits, are you
36:26
a nation? What's the nation?
36:28
Britain or the UK or England? I'm not going to figure out
36:31
right now. I knew at one point and then I
36:33
forgot and then I learned again and then I forgot.
36:34
And it's just I'm not going to retain it and I don't care
36:38
because we were like, you're a colony, so I'm not going to
36:41
learn it anyways. It was just a connecting force
36:44
between us. 2. And this is during Obama's
36:47
presidency, by the way. Unfortunately, we don't know if
36:51
Obama is aware of the rumors. I'm sure he heard about it.
36:54
We also never heard of Harry Styles commenting on Obama.
36:58
People denying Obama only makes me feel like it is true because
37:01
then you're treating it with real reasons to dislike it.
37:05
And that only makes me think that it is true because why
37:08
would you feel the need to disprove it?
37:09
And that's exactly why I think it is true.
37:12
I would do anything, anything to get them in the same room and
37:18
talk about this. There's like really fucking
37:20
funny fanfics and and there's so much, there's so much that could
37:24
be a part of it too. It's politics, it's different
37:27
worlds. It's cheating on Michelle.
37:29
Love you, Michelle, but I would be OK with it if he was sleeping
37:32
with Harry. Sorry, I'm sorry.
37:35
During him being president. Like we need a movie.
37:38
We literally need a movie. What I love also about Obama is
37:41
that if you talk about it passionately enough, there will
37:44
be people that are also super mad at Larry stuff.
37:47
The idea that Louis Tomlinson and Harry Styles were together,
37:50
which obviously I'm Larry or are still together or working
37:54
together, it's giving Kaylor because they will refute it so
37:57
much because they are like so mad at people being leeries.
38:00
And it's like, can you guys ever just have fucking fun?
38:03
Like there is no reason why Harry or Obama would ever find
38:07
this upsetting. It is just pure queer joy.
38:12
And that is what Pride is all about.
38:15
An international love affair, An interracial gay love affair, AKA
38:19
me, my girlfriend, not me. Bringing it back to myself,
38:22
Those are some of my favorite gay pop culture moments and
38:27
ships and stories. Let me know your favorite gay
38:31
pop culture moments. Obviously there's so many of
38:33
these because this is all I think about.
38:36
If that's not obvious, gay pop culture is queer culture.
38:40
And that's why we have pride. Because every community has
38:43
inside jokes, our own language and culture.
38:45
And I think we need to add Obama to the dictionary.
38:48
Anyways, I hope you guys had and have a wonderful pride.
38:51
I love you all so much. I will see you very soon.
38:55
Reminder that I have a bonus episode out about the five gaze
38:58
Taylor Swift songs that I ranked that is up and I'm very much
39:02
looking forward to seeing what happens on July 3rd.
39:04
If anything happens on July 3rd. If you know, you know.
39:07
Rate me 5 stars. Do all the things, share it with
39:11
your loved ones. Tell your friends and family
39:13
about Obama and Jennifer Lawrence legitimizing Kaylor
39:17
bred the rumor that Pink is actually gay, And keep listening
39:21
to karma. Love you guys, see you soon.
39:23
Bye. Happy pride.