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Episode 15 - Talking acting with Dennis Marin · Three Damned Dudes

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  dudes. And surprisingly, it's not who
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  you think. Gavin's actually here today.
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  I only missed like 3 episodes. Maybe.
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  Yeah. It's fine.
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  It's it's really not that much. Wait, how many have you guys
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  had? 3 Oh, he's going to fit in.
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  He's going to fit in really well.
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  But I'm going to make a note. Yeah, I'm going to make a note
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  about that so I don't forget. OK.
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  All right, no. Made sick.
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  I'm not editing any of this shit either.
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  Fuck you guys. Deal with the awkward positives,
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  I don't give a fuck. Way to call out Jenna.
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  Well, I said guys, plural. More than one.
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  Yeah, Gavin, what are you drinking, bud?
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  Drinking the Ranger, the Juice Force, these things are 9 1/2%
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  and completely dangerous. Yeah.
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  And before I go to the next person, I'm going to actually
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  introduce our guest because that that would be, that's a
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  professional thing to do, right? Yeah, So right.
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  Not, not the one you think. And our third dude for tonight's
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  episode of The Three Damn Dudes is Mr. Dennis Marin.
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  Howdy. Yeah, and that's all I'm gonna
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  say for now 'cause we're all the whole episode today is all about
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  Dennis and the shit he has done with his wife.
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  Welcome to it. There is.
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  There's just so much you and I have to catch up on Mike too,
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  and I don't even know Gavin. This is my first encounter with
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  Gavin, so I'm sure there's plenty that I would love to know
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  about you too, Sir. Oh don't worry, there's plenty I
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  would love to know about Mike from high school days so.
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  Oh man, he was pretty wild. So I've heard heard he'd like to
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  get sweaty and wear minimal clothing and get wrestle other
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  dudes. You don't even know that that's
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  a Segway, but it is. It was much worse than that
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  because it was a a singlet, it was skin tight, so I think it
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  would have been better if we were wearing nothing.
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  The singlet just made it much. Worse.
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  Yeah, it just. Powdered it, congested,
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  everything you know, you you, you think you're sweaty as it
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  is. Put a leotard on and then take
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  it off. Try try trying to take that off
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  as hell. No, you don't take that off.
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  You strip that off, you fucking peel that off.
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  There's no taking off. That's true, I went to sleep in
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  mine a couple nights. Oh, yeah.
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  OK, Yeah. That's where ringworm comes
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  from. And I I I was infected with
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  ringworm if you recall. Yeah, it was terrible, all
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  right? We all had it at some point.
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  That's just how it goes. I mean I.
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  Think I had it as like a child like before I formed thoughts
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  but. Yeah, yeah.
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  But it's my formative years. You also didn't do gay shit with
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  dudes in high school so. That was later in that.
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  Yeah, we established that Gavin is going to do the second-half
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  gay, which is an astonishing, it's an astonishing thing
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  because you'd have to know when the second-half starts.
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  I was speaking in my years in the Navy, but.
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  Oh, those. Weeks, yeah.
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  So you saying you did the right, you did the second quarter gay
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  then? Is that why all my marriage was
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  failed? Fuck, it might be.
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  Oh, that's shit. All right, let's go ahead get
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  into this intro so we can actually.
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  So fun fact, I don't have to do the ad read anymore.
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  Oh, really? Yeah, because I pre recorded it.
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  So we get to just we get to just jump into the show and you guys
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  can't fuck with my ad read anymore.
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  That was their that's their favorite thing because I read it
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  off of this Google doc that is real time editable.
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  So in the middle of the ad read, Jimmy will just type like balls,
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  balls, balls and try to fuck me up.
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  Or one time one of them just deleted the whole fucking thing
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  and I was like, oh, that's, that's good.
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  That I Larry, anything you can fit in the oven that wow, look
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  at that. Hey Mike, you know what?
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  We have the log in the Riverside.
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  Yeah, yeah, I know where. That ad reading is going to be.
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  I'm going to go ahead and download that as soon as we get
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  off this this episode tonight. Yeah.
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  Dennis, what are you drinking over there?
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  I. Am actually drinking just plain
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  old good water man with a little bit of neo in it.
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  That a man of a man of taste. I actually I paper.
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  Yeah, well, it's orange tangerine, which is my favorite.
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  I love orange anything. That's that's a good one.
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  I'll give you a great look at that.
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  Yeah. I actually I quit drinking a few
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  years ago. Good for you man.
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  Yeah, just. Gave it up.
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  Or never became a problem. Didn't want to make it a problem
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  and ask myself the question what does alcohol do for you and the
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  answer was nothing so I just decided to cut it out.
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  Just a personal preference, I have nothing against it.
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  How dare you bring maturity to our show, Dennis.
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  Maturity and good, healthy decisions.
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  You guys are trying to have a good time here and I'm just
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  sitting here with my Aquafina, you know, some hot product
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  plates in here. Hell yeah.
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  Not a sponsor, but Aquafina. If you want to reach out, don't
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  because no, I am still drinking bookers which is also not a
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  sponsor. But with that gents, cheers.
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  Cheers. Cheers.
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  They're nice. Jews do a fucking bottle of
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  bookers. Yeah, I'm a degenerate.
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  I pulled off the bottle, assuming Gavin.
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  Now we're never getting that sponsor.
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  I don't think I wanted them as a sponsor anyway.
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  They couldn't handle her bullshit.
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  OK, let's get into these recaps. So the other day we're driving
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  home from Lowe's and Ridley, from her car seat in the back of
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  the van somewhere. I don't know where she fucking
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  goes. She says.
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  Mom, mom, can you play Maui? He's a demigod of the wind and
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  sea. Asking for the song beyond from
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  Moana too, but not what the fuck came out of her mouth.
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  Mom play Maui, he's a demigod of the wind and sea.
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  So yeah, just the the shit that she pulls out of her brain and
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  just like it's incredible. It for example, we're cooking
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  dinner, I think last night and I'm so we had to make like bacon
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  chunks, like bigger than bits, but smaller than like quarter
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  strips. So I take the kitchen scissors
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  and I cut the entire package in half and then pull half of the
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  bacon out and cut strips with the kitchen scissors right into
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  the skillet and do it that way. And Ridley, in true fashion is
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  up there helping me by watching and being the the life foreman
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  that she is. And she goes, dad, what is
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  bacon? And I'm like, what the like,
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  what critter does it come from? She's like, yeah, what is bacon?
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  I'm like, kid, I just told you the question.
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  OK, Bacon. Bacon is a pig.
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  And she you see her kind of stop and and think about it and she's
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  like, that's sad. I'm like, what's sad?
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  And she's like, you took the pig's bacon.
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  I'm like, yeah, kinda. I'm like you.
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  You realize that that that pig died, so we could have the
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  bacon, right? And then she's like, oh, that's
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  sad. I'm like, yeah, a little bit, I
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  guess. But you realize that all, all of
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  the meat, any meat that we eat is from a dead critter, right?
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  And she goes, yeah, that's sad. I'm like, do you not want to eat
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  meat? And she's like, no, I want meat,
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  but it's sad. So in telling my wife about this
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  story at the dinner table, Ridley starts naming off
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  critters and saying that she wanted like, whatever that
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  critter was, the meat from that critter.
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  She's like, and we can eat duck meat and we can eat deer meat
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  and cow meat and fish meat and Barrett meat and mommy meat and
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  daddy meat. And I stop and I look at Jenna.
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  I get myself together and go, no, no, we don't eat daddy meat.
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  Only one person here eats daddy meat.
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  And then Jenna threw something at me.
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  So yeah. I can't wait for the next recap
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  When Ridley gets sent home from daycare because she's telling
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  the teachers that Jenna eats daddy's meat.
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  Not daddy's meat, just daddy meat.
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  Daddy. Yeah, just daddy meat.
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  OK, yeah, an update on the also trending feral 10 month old he
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  is in his throwing Shit on the ground era, which makes me think
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  of that Vine or whatever it was that short video where the dude
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  voices over like the old medieval paintings.
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  Hey, it's me, your boy Duncan. Welcome back to another episode
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  of Throwing Shit on the Ground. Yep.
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  It's fucking yeah. That's what I think of every
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  time. She's like, ah, water cup.
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  Yep, Stillwater. Fucking asshole.
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  And Ridley now has a call sign so Barrett is in his throwing
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  shit on the ground era. Ridley is in her tattle era.
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  So it doesn't matter what I tell her to do or what anybody tells
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  her to do. She runs to the other parent and
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  says mommy, Daddy said I had to go potty.
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  But yeah, 'cause you got to fucking go potty.
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  Like what? But it doesn't matter what it is
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  that is that's just her go to thing.
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  Now she tattles on fucking everything.
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  So I proposed her call sign be tattle tits, which is a call out
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  to, I forget what the movie is, but that's from a movie.
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  And Jenna said no, that is not her call sign.
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  How about Tattletale? And I said, yeah, OK, that plays
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  I guess if you're a fucking nerd.
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  So Ridley's call sign is Tattletale, and she has fucking
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  earned it up to this point. And yeah, that's my recap.
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  It's Gavin. What do you got bud?
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  So a couple of things here, mainly I had, you know, quite
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  noticeable absence past couple of weeks.
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  Just had some conflicting shit going on.
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  But the biggest one was going up to Virginia last week, hanging
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  out with a beautiful friend of ours, but mainly went up there
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  to go to the Bad Omens concert in Baltimore.
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  It was Bad Omens Bear Tooth and president and they did not
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  disappoint. They put on a hell of a show and
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  it was great. Didn't really know too much or
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  have heard much president's music before going up there.
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  So like it was, it was good and Bear Tooth obviously played a
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  lot of their classics. It was really good to see all
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  that live, but Bad Omens definitely took the cake.
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  Crowd was insane. We had a great time.
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  We actually last minute ended up upgrading our tickets to like
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  the VIP tickets just to get into the lounge beforehand.
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  It's like 40 bucks a ticket. So it was a pretty good deal but
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  got their own like private bar and everything.
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  It's a really cool experience. However, I will say I am way too
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  old for that shit. Now.
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  Because bad omens in like do fashion, they always play
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  Dethrone at the end, one of their heaviest songs.
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  So buddy grabs me and goes, hey, we're going to the fucking pit.
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  I was like, I don't want to do that.
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  That sounds like a bad time. Had a great fucking time in the
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  pit. Hell yeah.
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  I'm 5 for that. I'm not a big dude by any means.
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  I got fucking manhandled. Like at one point I felt
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  somebody grabbed my hips. And.
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  Tossed me. It was a wild fucking
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  experience. I thought I was about to die or
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  just like get fucking kidnapped. That is the definition of being
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  manhandled. Yes, 100%.
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  That's funny. Would I now?
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  Again, Probably not. I I need to know something?
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  Yes. The band president How?
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  How heavy are they? Like solid breakdowns or yeah,
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  they've got some solid. Breakdowns, but they're they
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  lean into auto tune quite a bit and.
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  So like old icy stars Ask or what?
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  Kind of they're a little bit more like techno with some of
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  the beats too. So OK, I mean, it's it's a
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  healthy mix. They're they're good.
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  I would check them out. So my question is, were there
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  any crowd shouts before a breakdown that were just China?
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  Because if not, that's a fucking missed opportunity.
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  Damn. It you're right, thinking of it
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  now, definitely a missed opportunity.
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  Yeah, that would have been that would have been pure gold.
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  Yeah, but when do that again? I did once had that experience.
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  It was great. We woke up the next day though,
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  and we were like, our bodies fucking hurt.
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  Like we caught a couple elbows fucking just getting shoved
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  around for 3 or 4 minutes straight.
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  Yeah, I'm way too old to be doing that shit.
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  Any like bruises or anything because your face looks fine.
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  No, no bruises, nothing like that.
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  So it was just a just body pain, soreness, fucking.
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  Damn. Yeah.
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  That sounds fun man. No, it was, it was fun.
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  It was a great time so. Yeah, a lot better than my
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  recap. Oh, let's go ahead and get into
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  it. Oh man, I'm just on the road a
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  lot. Last week I was in Chicago,
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  which is why I had to reschedule for today.
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  Had something cool going on there, did a nice little indie
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  film shoot, and then I come home for literally 5 hours, get a
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  call, pack up, going to Atlanta. So I'm in Atlanta right now
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  working on another independent film.
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  I can't really disclose anything about it because it might be
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  going on a streaming service, but that's yet to be determined.
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  So I can't really disclose anything.
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  But it's pretty cool. And yeah, just on the road,
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  really tired, lots of road rage. I have a bit of a lead foot, so
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  I'm just flipping birds and cutting people off.
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  That's probably the highlight of my week.
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  American Sign Language at its finest and.
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  That absolutely is, you know, I, I got a call time, I got to make
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  it on time and you know, nobody's going to get in the way
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  of that. So it is what it is.
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  Damn right. Yeah.
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  All right, so Dennis Marin. Yes, Sir.
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  Who are you? Who am I, man?
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  Generally speaking, who am I? I want you to know I I pose that
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  question in the shittiest way possible just to see what you
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  would do. So that was a Dick move on my
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  part, but there is way more structure to the questions.
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  So I just, I wanted to see what you would do.
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  So we're this episode is all about you.
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  We're going to talk about you and what you do, what you did
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  from like pre birth to you're going to have to figure out and
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  predict how you die. Oh, wow.
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  OK, all right. I'm with it.
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  And there's a, there's a surprise question that may or
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  may not make the final edit because it did not make the
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  final edit for last week's episode.
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  But I want you guys to know we did still ask the question.
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  So Dennis, for you, where is home?
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  Where you from? Where's home?
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  I am from Detroit, MI born and raised Lovett.
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  Michigan is my home. Spent most of my youth wanting
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  to move to the West Coast and that was primarily for acting
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  for what I want to do. Later found out that Los Angeles
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  is an absolute shit hole. Went there one found out that
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  tent cities are actually real and the homeless, the
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  homelessness problem in Los Angeles, Englewood to be exact,
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  is absolutely unreal and realized that a lot of these
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  people are failed artists, actors, musicians and fell into
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  a bit of a drug addiction problem and ended up on the
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  streets and it was just really scary.
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  Really sad to see but still had a good time.
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  First time in Hollywood I got sang to by a transvestite, my
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  buddy got his car jacked. We ended up and Hollywood Police
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  Department and met some of the coolest cops and just had a
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  blast. Second time I went there, I was
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  like, OK, yeah, I'm not living here.
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  So Michigan is still home, but I do frequent Los Angeles quite a
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  bit. And Atlanta, which I'm in right
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  now, Chicago, just kind of all over, all over the world,
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  really. And by world, I mean the United
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  States. That's the only place in the
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  world that matters, let me tell you.
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  Yeah. I couldn't agree more.
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  Yeah, couldn't agree more, brother.
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  All right, what what was what was growing up like for you?
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  So let's start at that post post birth, so not pre birth.
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  I don't want to know about that. That was a joke.
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  Yeah. What was what were the early
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  years like? Well.
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  September 6th, 1994, my mother gave birth and I was born.
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  And then the rest is, you know, just kind of kind of history,
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  man. I mean, I did some pretty cool
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  shit and everything in between. No, I'm kidding.
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  Growing up was quite interesting.
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  I come from an immigrant family. My parents came here in 1991 to
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  escape communist Romania and from the 80s and landed in
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  Chicago, moved to Detroit. That's where I was born.
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  My parents had 12 children. So to answer your question,
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  growing up was diabolical. It was insane.
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  It was one of the most fun on fun times that I can recall.
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  But growing up and looking back on it now, I always had a
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  friend. I always had a buddy, a pal,
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  somebody to hang out without. It was never boring.
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  It was always chaotic or there was always something going on.
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  My parents made it happen. Man, to all kids.
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  Could you imagine? No, no, I tapped out after 2.
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  Man I tapped out after 0. Yes, same so.
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  Far no No kids. For me at least, not you.
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  You and I were talking about this a little bit like I I can't
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  wait to be a dad. I clap and commend my parents
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  for being the greatest parents and they just, they made it
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  happen. Growing up was was awesome.
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  So. Fall in that back.
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  Were you like older, younger, kind of in the middle?
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  I was kind of in the middle. I was #8 but I kind of grew up,
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  like I had to grow up quick not to like, say that I like, I was
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  like super mature for my age. But, you know, when you're that
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  age, there was younglings, you know, below me, and they kind of
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  got most of mom's attention. And dad was always at work, you
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  know, because there's 12 mouths to feed.
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  And I just kind of had to grow up and.
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  Yeah. Just got to figure it out, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. So what did your dad do for a
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  living to support 13 people in the house?
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  Well, 14, including him 14. Yeah.
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  He. Did everything he could.
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  He did everything that he could. He actually he owned his own
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  tile company. So he worked in construction his
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  whole life and started his business and did very well,
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  very, very well for himself. We were A1 income household mom
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  was a stay at home mom. And that's just the way that it
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  worked and it worked out, you know?
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  And I, like I said, I look back at it now and I'm just kind of
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  like dumbfounded at how interesting that all just kind
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  of happened, you know? And I look back at my dad and
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  didn't speak the language, didn't speak a lick of English
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  and moved here. I always imagine if I were to
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  like move six children at the time in the 90s to Germany and I
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  don't speak German. Yeah.
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  And I'm just like, wow, you know, So I used to give him a
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  hard time about it, you know, because you come to America, you
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  got to learn how to speak English, and he knows English
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  now. But, you know, for somebody who
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  didn't know the culture is a kind of a culture shock.
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  You know, you just land in a foreign airport and suitcase
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  full of clothes and six children, you know, asking, hey,
• 27:05
  you know, where we going? And you just made it happen,
• 27:08
  man. That's my hero.
• 27:09
  I. Was going to say must been one
• 27:12
  hell of a role model. Just, you know how to figure it
• 27:16
  out. So yeah, props to him.
• 27:20
  Yeah. Yeah, that thank, thank you.
• 27:24
  I don't, I don't think there could be a big enough shout out
• 27:27
  for for your dad making that work.
• 27:30
  That's absolutely insane. Yeah, yeah.
• 27:33
  I, I anytime I'm home, I always commend him.
• 27:36
  And I remind him like, hey, man, like, thanks for not giving up.
• 27:40
  Because if he did, it would have sucked.
• 27:42
  You know, it would have been a completely different life when
• 27:44
  they, you know, so I'm able to do what I do and chase my dreams
• 27:49
  and you know that. And that's the thing, you know,
• 27:52
  it's, that's the American dream. That's what he came here for.
• 27:55
  He, we grew up in the mountains of Romania and he came here.
• 28:00
  He wanted his children to have a better life.
• 28:02
  And if I wasn't born here, I probably wouldn't have been an
• 28:06
  actor. So the way that I look at it,
• 28:10
  I'm an American first, Romanian second.
• 28:13
  You know, I love this country and I would do anything I could
• 28:16
  for it. And I we stand here with two
• 28:21
  military man, one of the Navy and an ex Marine.
• 28:24
  And you know, I commend you guys for that.
• 28:29
  Thank you for your service, both of you.
• 28:30
  Thanks for paying your taxes. Taxes are paid, man.
• 28:39
  Hell yeah. Well, that that covered my
• 28:41
  paycheck for 11 years. So I appreciate you never feel
• 28:47
  like you didn't do your part. You did your fucking part.
• 28:49
  So I think the only appropriate thing to do now is a big old
• 28:54
  cheers to Papa Marin for God damn sure.
• 28:58
  So percent. Thank you, brother.
• 29:00
  What's your dad's name? Name is George man.
• 29:04
  Cheers, George. Hell of a man.
• 29:07
  Yes Sir, and cheers to all dads out there who make it happen.
• 29:15
  Doesn't matter if you have 12, doesn't matter if you have two.
• 29:17
  If you're a father man and you're in your children's lives,
• 29:21
  that's that's commendable. Absolutely.
• 29:25
  Yeah. All right, so sports.
• 29:33
  Sports. All right.
• 29:34
  What sports were you involved in growing up?
• 29:37
  Growing up, got to start off with wrestling, man.
• 29:40
  And I, I bring that up because you were a former teammate,
• 29:44
  because Al, we were on the wrestling team.
• 29:47
  I think last I remember, I think you wrestled around like 152.
• 29:53
  So freshman year I started at 140, bumped to 1:45 and then it
• 30:01
  was 152, hung out of 160 for a little bit, and then senior year
• 30:05
  I was at 171. OK.
• 30:08
  Yeah, nice, nice. Yeah.
• 30:11
  I wrestled 130. I think I was a really small
• 30:15
  dude, still am. But I wrestled 130.
• 30:19
  Loved wrestling. Shout out to Coach Bergeron.
• 30:22
  Coach McGuire taught us a lot. I kind of learned how to become
• 30:29
  a man in that wrestling room and taught me a lot of things.
• 30:34
  Wrestling taught me things that I probably wouldn't have learned
• 30:38
  anywhere else. It was just a nasty.
• 30:41
  It was a nasty man. You remember how those mirrors
• 30:45
  would fog up when we would have like, Oh my goodness, man.
• 30:49
  Yeah. Unbelievable.
• 30:52
  Unbelievable. Did the mirrors on the back wall
• 30:54
  the the windows looking into the weight room ever?
• 30:58
  Like you couldn't see in there some days.
• 31:00
  You could, yeah, you could not see a damn thing.
• 31:03
  But wrestling was, Oh my goodness, by far the hardest
• 31:08
  sport. And then, I'm not sure if I ever
• 31:11
  mentioned this or if you knew, but I went into pro wrestling
• 31:14
  after I graduated high school. Hell yeah.
• 31:19
  Yeah, I played a little bit of football, messed up my neck
• 31:22
  playing football, which wrestling only made it a little
• 31:26
  bit of work worse. And when it's a pro, wrestling
• 31:29
  took a gore from wrestler, she'll be nameless.
• 31:35
  Really, really messed me up. Had some neck issues and that's
• 31:41
  kind of how I fell into acting. But sports man wrestling.
• 31:45
  Wrestling was my first love. Oh yeah, man, yeah, yeah.
• 31:53
  You could always tell that that the practice was going to be
• 31:57
  exceptionally bad when after the warm up couple miles of running
• 32:02
  through the school, not outside, inside, through the fucking
• 32:05
  school hallways, we would go then run more in the in the pool
• 32:11
  room. So we'd go run the fucking
• 32:14
  bleachers in there for another little bit of time.
• 32:17
  Oh my goodness, I remember. Get into practice.
• 32:21
  Oh, my goodness. And we used to trip all over the
• 32:23
  papers and the children like is doing community service and oh,
• 32:29
  man, bumping the teachers in the hallway.
• 32:31
  And it was, it was a wild time. But yeah, if I could go back, I
• 32:34
  would do it all again. Yeah, man, absolutely.
• 32:38
  Yeah, loved. It or the looking back at it,
• 32:46
  it's funny to me, especially with my experiences and as an
• 32:50
  adult. But they would like we'd be
• 32:54
  drilling like double leg takedowns, right, or like a head
• 33:00
  inside, take it up high, whatever, whatever the takedown
• 33:05
  was like the exceptionally shitty ones.
• 33:07
  You would hear coach like all right, last one and then we
• 33:10
  would do it and then we would find somebody in the room.
• 33:12
  No, we didn't do it right. Do it again, last one, and then
• 33:14
  everybody does it right and he's like, all right, the final last
• 33:17
  one and everybody does it. 20 last ones before it was actually
• 33:23
  the last one. Yeah, so we'd go to the last
• 33:26
  one, the final last one, the final, final last one, the final
• 33:29
  last culminating one, and then the final, last culminating
• 33:33
  time. If nobody fucked that one up,
• 33:34
  then we were good, yeah. And then we'd run sevens and
• 33:38
  then we would circle up and get the fuck out of the wrestling
• 33:40
  room. I'm pretty sure it was me that
• 33:44
  was fucking all of them up. No, man, I blame the freshman.
• 33:49
  That was only us for one year. What senior year?
• 33:59
  Oh man, shit, it was so much. Fun, So much fun.
• 34:04
  So was there a pivotal moment that you look back on and you're
• 34:07
  like, yeah, that was the thing that got me into acting.
• 34:09
  I know we kind of touched on it with the the pro wrestling,
• 34:12
  which, let's be real, is still just acting.
• 34:16
  Yeah, but it's spicy acting. It's spicy acting because it
• 34:21
  hurts and it's like if you're good at ballet, you would be a
• 34:26
  really good wrestler. It's also like a a nice dance
• 34:30
  and you got to keep your partner safe, you know, So it's, it's
• 34:34
  like a live theater for any and people talk crap about pro
• 34:38
  wrestling, you know, and and that's fine.
• 34:41
  I get it. But there's an art to it that is
• 34:46
  unexplainable unless you try it. And I tried it.
• 34:49
  I fell in love with it. Shout out to Keith Calhoun, who
• 34:53
  trained me, and Cody Calhoun, the whole Calhoun family.
• 34:58
  They were the ones who really just kind of took me under the
• 35:00
  wing. They trained me for free just
• 35:03
  because they saw something in May.
• 35:04
  Yeah, usually you got to go to school for it and it's anywhere
• 35:07
  like between 2000, sometimes up to a port of $5000 just for like
• 35:12
  a 12 week course. And they just took me on and
• 35:19
  they didn't want anything from me.
• 35:21
  They just had me pay my dues, you know, help set up the ring
• 35:24
  and be here on time. Help tear it down and we'll get
• 35:28
  you in for about an hour or two and we'll train you.
• 35:32
  And then I got hurt and then I got injured.
• 35:35
  So then I quickly had to resort to my first love, which was
• 35:43
  acting to begin with. And once that part, did I lose
• 35:50
  you guys for a second? I don't.
• 35:53
  Think so. No, no.
• 35:54
  OK. You guys OK, You guys there?
• 35:56
  Cool. So I think that's just me.
• 36:01
  OK, so that's kind of how I fell into acting, just because
• 36:09
  wrestling was off the table and I kind of resorted back to what
• 36:13
  else am I good at? And I remember 8th grade, again,
• 36:20
  shout out to Coach Bergeron. But dude, Coach Bergeron was
• 36:24
  drama teacher, English teacher, high school wrestling coach.
• 36:29
  So he was kind of like like me becoming a young man.
• 36:33
  He was just there. So shout out to Scott Bergeron
• 36:36
  for that drama class. 8th grade, it was mandatory.
• 36:41
  So Bergeron kind of had us do like these one act plays just to
• 36:46
  kind of see where you're at as an actor and your talents.
• 36:50
  And apparently I guess I did OK. So we did The Invisible Man and
• 36:58
  this is where he had us get up in front of the class and
• 37:02
  whichever role you wanted to audition for, raise your hand.
• 37:06
  He has you come up and do a little bit of it.
• 37:08
  If he likes it, you get cast, right?
• 37:11
  So here comes the role of the Invisible Man Griffin lead.
• 37:17
  Nobody got up. Nobody wanted to audition.
• 37:20
  So he just kind of throws a marker at me and says, Marin,
• 37:23
  your Griffin, go put your name up on the board.
• 37:26
  So here I am like, you know, shit.
• 37:30
  I was just hoping to get through the class by just, you know,
• 37:33
  making posters and Flyers for the play and just hanging them
• 37:37
  up and then just taking a nap, you know, in the back of the
• 37:40
  class. But now I found myself playing
• 37:45
  the lead role and the Invisible Man.
• 37:48
  So after that opening night, or opening weekend rather, just
• 37:56
  that crowd reaction was unbelievable.
• 38:01
  Unbelievable. I've never felt that kind of
• 38:03
  energy before. And then that's when I knew I
• 38:06
  was like, Oh my goodness, like this is a lot of fun.
• 38:09
  Like I am actually enjoying myself here.
• 38:12
  And Long story short, went into high school, David Glicker did
• 38:17
  some of his plays, fell in love with acting a little more, got
• 38:21
  into wrestling. Wrestling didn't work out, went
• 38:24
  back to acting. So now I'm in college and I
• 38:29
  studied biomedical engineering in college and I also did the
• 38:33
  play. So I majored in engineering,
• 38:36
  minored and theater. So I did a play out there.
• 38:42
  I was Corny Collins and Hairspray.
• 38:45
  I had Henry Ford College and that was a lot of fun, a lot of
• 38:49
  fun. And then after that, I just kind
• 38:52
  of fell into film acting, which was the goal to begin with.
• 38:56
  So theater was the foothold and film acting was the end goal,
• 39:02
  which is what I'm doing now. So I just kind of fell into it.
• 39:06
  Bergeron, I have to thank for that.
• 39:08
  He just kind of helped me discover a love for the arts.
• 39:12
  And the rest is history, man. Nice man.
• 39:17
  We'll have to. I'll have to shoot him a message
• 39:19
  and tell him he's definitely got to listen to this episode.
• 39:23
  Yeah, man. Thank you all.
• 39:26
  Right. What is?
• 39:27
  What is your hands down favorite project that you've worked on?
• 39:34
  Hands down favorite project. I'll probably have to go with
• 39:37
  the price of AIM Heather Locklear just because they flew
• 39:42
  me out for that. Dallas, TX all paid for
• 39:45
  expenses, hotel was paid for, chauffeur everything.
• 39:51
  And I played Tommy Lee for Mötley Crüe, so there's a
• 39:56
  select. Few.
• 39:58
  That played Tommy Lee and it was Sebastian Stan, Winter Soldier.
• 40:07
  Oh man, who was this Machine Gun Kelly in the dirt?
• 40:14
  And Dennis Marin and Price of fame?
• 40:18
  So, and and it was my television debut.
• 40:22
  It was actually on TV. It was on reels, yeah.
• 40:27
  So that. Sounds insane.
• 40:30
  Yeah, it was cool. I'm pretty sure you can watch
• 40:33
  it. I don't know where right now,
• 40:37
  but if you do some digging I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure
• 40:40
  you'd be able to find it. That's fair.
• 40:45
  And I'm actually, I'm looking right now, yeah.
• 40:53
  IMDb. Yeah, if you look up on IMDb I'm
• 40:56
  pretty sure you could. It's on reels and Prime Video
• 41:03
  and Pluto and Roku and Tubi. OK, so it's everywhere.
• 41:10
  Yeah, damn near cool. All right, so the fact that you
• 41:15
  have a favorite project means that logically you would have to
• 41:19
  have a least favorite project. I don't want to know what your
• 41:22
  least favorite project is, right?
• 41:24
  But not going to ask that question, but what was it about
• 41:28
  that project that made it your least favorite?
• 41:32
  Oh man, I would. I would have to say the
• 41:37
  unprofessionalism and I don't say that lightly because growing
• 41:44
  up in Michigan, there's not a lot of opportunities there.
• 41:48
  So a lot of the opportunities that you do have are
• 41:52
  independent. And when I say unprofessional, I
• 41:55
  just mean things are just not prepared.
• 42:01
  You know, they'll just the entire overall production is
• 42:06
  just the way out of whack and you know, schedules are messed
• 42:10
  up and actors we're we're people.
• 42:12
  You know what, we have lives, we have jobs, you know, so kind of
• 42:17
  trying to make all of that happen is the difficult part.
• 42:23
  And I've been in one that I'm thinking about specifically was
• 42:26
  just diabolical. And it, I, I refer to it back a
• 42:32
  couple of times and I go, you know, what, if I'm having a bad
• 42:36
  time on set, at least it's not that this project that I'm
• 42:41
  talking about. So yeah, just, yeah, just just
• 42:46
  the unprofessionalism. And I think, Mike, I was talking
• 42:48
  to you about this a couple weeks back.
• 42:50
  When you're trying to get your foot in the door, you're going
• 42:53
  to take everything that's kind of handed to you.
• 42:56
  And when you do that, you run into some situation ships, you
• 43:03
  know so. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 43:06
  Yeah, it's funny that you say that.
• 43:08
  You've got that, that mantra for sanity.
• 43:10
  You know, at least it's not that project, because mine, my mantra
• 43:14
  for sanity is very similar. I've said it no less than four
• 43:19
  times at work this week, and it's fucking Tuesday.
• 43:24
  I like, I look around, I'm like, you know, this, this fucking
• 43:27
  sucks right now and I hate everything that's going on.
• 43:31
  But you know what? At least we're not getting shot
• 43:33
  at. So, I mean, at least there's
• 43:36
  that, right? It could always be worse.
• 43:39
  It could always be worse. I could be back in the desert
• 43:42
  like, you know, cranking in a porta John.
• 43:45
  Like it could always be worse. It could always be so much
• 43:48
  worse. I'm sorry, did you say cranking
• 43:52
  what in a porta John? Well, I didn't say what, but for
• 43:56
  anyone who didn't catch it, crank and hog in a porta John
• 44:01
  135°. Yep.
• 44:04
  When somebody broke the golden rule of like, there's one porta
• 44:09
  John that you just don't shit in for that reason, there's always
• 44:14
  the one. It's called the Jack Shack.
• 44:16
  Really. Yeah, that's a rule.
• 44:19
  Yeah, it's a thing. I.
• 44:24
  I I did lose you guys here, just wondering if the sound is still
• 44:27
  OK? Yeah, you sound fine still, I
• 44:30
  just hope it doesn't turn into an echo on the back end, but I
• 44:33
  should be able to do something. OK.
• 44:36
  We'll get it figured. OK.
• 44:38
  Who professionally is your inspiration?
• 44:45
  Professionally, I love Joaquin Phoenix, man, and I get a lot of
• 44:50
  crap about it because I know as a person, you know, he's kind of
• 44:55
  rough around the edges, but artistically, one of hands down
• 45:01
  the greatest actors of all time, Joaquin Phoenix, Walk the line
• 45:05
  blows my mind. The Joker, just to name a
• 45:11
  couple. But Joaquin Phoenix is
• 45:13
  definitely up there for sure. Hell yeah.
• 45:18
  Yeah, What about you guys? Any favorite actors from you
• 45:21
  other than me? I mean, well, there's so there's
• 45:24
  Dennis Marin. I'm I'm a huge fan of Chris
• 45:30
  Pratt. And I think that that probably
• 45:34
  is more from what is what is known in public about his
• 45:39
  personal life and how he is as a human being outside of like the
• 45:42
  rules that he does. But for me, like Star Lord, I
• 45:47
  want to grow up to be that guy, you know, just doing space
• 45:50
  cowboy shit and stealing stuff and doing the right thing at the
• 45:52
  end of the day. Oh.
• 45:54
  Yeah. So I think for me, obviously,
• 45:59
  other than you, Idris Elba, yeah, just the way he's able to
• 46:08
  like, kind of elevate the roles he's in and like the serious
• 46:11
  nature of them, it's exceptional.
• 46:14
  Like there are very few people that do it as well as he does.
• 46:19
  Love it. All right, Dennis, who's on?
• 46:24
  Who's on your Who's your top three actors or actresses that
• 46:30
  are like your bucket list to work with Ohio?
• 46:34
  OK, yeah, I'll definitely Joaquin Phoenix probably #1
• 46:41
  would love to work with Emma Stone.
• 46:45
  Emma Stone is definitely up there.
• 46:46
  And I actually, I almost have a chance to work with her audition
• 46:51
  for a project that she was involved in.
• 46:53
  Obviously I didn't get it or else I wouldn't be here.
• 46:58
  But no, just just Emma Stone. There's just something about her
• 47:04
  mannerisms for facial expressions.
• 47:07
  I kind of I my like a lot of directors that I work with, I
• 47:14
  have like kind of like stone face where like my eyes do the
• 47:17
  talking. So I actually refer to a lot of
• 47:20
  her acting to kind of like mimic, like the way like she
• 47:24
  moves her face and stuff like that.
• 47:26
  Just to kind of get more expression out of the roles that
• 47:30
  I do. But Emma Stone is definitely up
• 47:32
  there. And then third, I'd probably
• 47:35
  probably go with Leo Leonardo. DiCaprio.
• 47:40
  Yeah, I know it's solid. Yeah, definitely.
• 47:49
  OK, this next question, so not not the last one, almost the
• 47:59
  last one. So we pitched you the idea of a
• 48:04
  movie that we were kicking around that will be titled Three
• 48:09
  Dudes Save Them. A very loose idea.
• 48:18
  No, dude, Sora AI already made 22 fucking trailers for it, and
• 48:25
  I have a whole outline for a script already, all right?
• 48:27
  I just need an actual professional to figure out how
• 48:31
  to turn that into a 90 to 100 minute screenplay, because I'm
• 48:35
  not that fucking guy. I'm just not.
• 48:38
  Listen, man, I'm in Atlanta right now.
• 48:41
  I got the connects, I got the people.
• 48:44
  I read it over and I was like, this is actually kind of
• 48:46
  brilliant. And yeah, if if you want this to
• 48:52
  come to life, I could definitely try to pull some some strings
• 48:57
  that make it happen. So yeah.
• 49:04
  Dude, that would be, Not only would that be fucking incredible
• 49:09
  because like that's an absolutely insane idea, but I
• 49:16
  think that would be, that would be a contender for like the top
• 49:20
  three funniest moments of my life if that movie actually got
• 49:24
  fucking made. Listen man, how how far are you
• 49:27
  from Atlanta right now? Fuck here to Georgia sub 12
• 49:34
  hours. About six hours.
• 49:38
  Gavin, where are you at? I'm in the Arkansas.
• 49:42
  Arkansas, yeah. Nice.
• 49:46
  So if you ever shooting anything down there, hit Gavin.
• 49:48
  Now I can get you guys in touch in real life.
• 49:51
  Arkansas. I've never been, you know, the
• 49:55
  movie Mud. I do, yeah.
• 50:00
  So part of that was shot like 20 minutes from where I live, like
• 50:06
  round up. Yep.
• 50:10
  So I think that's pretty much like the only notable thing that
• 50:13
  Arkansas has been involved in, but.
• 50:17
  Pretty cool. Pretty cool.
• 50:19
  Yeah. Film nowadays, you, you don't
• 50:21
  really have to be in Los Angeles to be a successful actor.
• 50:24
  Everything is virtual nowadays. Like you, this screen behind me,
• 50:29
  this is how auditions go. You know, back in the day, you
• 50:32
  would have to, you would have to go and fly to Los Angeles and
• 50:37
  meet with these directors or go to New York or whatever.
• 50:41
  But I can be from Michigan and send in all my auditions and if
• 50:45
  they need me, they shoot me to Chicago.
• 50:47
  Or Atlanta. Or LA or wherever they need me.
• 50:49
  Or. Arkansas.
• 50:50
  They film everyone now, yeah. I think we need to we need to
• 50:57
  film 3 Dudes Save America in Arkansas.
• 50:59
  In Arkansas. State on the map.
• 51:01
  In the middle of America. Here's the thing.
• 51:05
  We could do it in the rice fields.
• 51:09
  Because listen for everybody watching, listen the most
• 51:15
  hilarious. It wasn't even even like a
• 51:17
  script. It was just kind of like like
• 51:20
  like a storyboard. And it's just it's so good.
• 51:24
  And I, I think the, we need to make this.
• 51:31
  Yeah, I, I, I think we should just go for it.
• 51:33
  I, we, we can hire some cameraman and we can get some
• 51:38
  lighting going and some sound guys and get some, some
• 51:43
  background actors and make it happen.
• 51:49
  Let's let's start like a GoFundMe page for this.
• 51:54
  Like a like a Kickstarter. For you, let's do a Kickstarter,
• 51:57
  let's raise like $20,000 and let's just make this movie and
• 52:02
  it'll become like a cult in classic 3 Dudes Save America.
• 52:06
  So as long as it like gets up there with like range 15, I'm
• 52:11
  good. Yeah, or like what's?
• 52:13
  Going to say. Or like the room.
• 52:17
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 52:20
  Dennis, do you know about the movie Range 15?
• 52:23
  Range 15 I do not. OK, I'm just going to read off
• 52:27
  some of the cast in this movie. Matt Best, he's a he's a vet.
• 52:35
  Not not at the time. Definitely wasn't in the acting
• 52:39
  scene. He was a he's a YouTube
• 52:41
  personality, right? Ross Patterson, who is the the
• 52:47
  Hollywood flavor that really came into all this from like
• 52:52
  churching up the writing and directing and also playing one
• 52:56
  of the main characters, Sergeant Major Gene Vandenham.
• 53:01
  Danny Trejo is in this movie. I've worked with Danny Trejo.
• 53:05
  What the fuck? Yeah, it was cool.
• 53:08
  Yeah, he comes to Detroit a lot, actually.
• 53:10
  Shit. That's nuts, that.
• 53:14
  Happened. Danny Trejo is so like, there's
• 53:19
  a very tight, tightly knit acting community in Detroit.
• 53:23
  Like everybody knows everybody. So if you know somebody in film
• 53:27
  and you spout off my name, 9 times out of 10 they're going to
• 53:31
  know who I am and I'm going to know who they are.
• 53:33
  So it's a very small community. So Danny Trejo, a lot of the
• 53:38
  ways that independent films work is you have your cast and then
• 53:45
  you have like a lead, kind of supporting role, but not the
• 53:49
  actual lead. And then what they'll do is
• 53:51
  they'll cast like a name face, like somebody who's had some
• 53:58
  decent credits to their name, like I've worked with before he
• 54:02
  passed, what was his name? Guy from Black Hawk Down Saving
• 54:07
  Private Ryan Not Tom Hanks the other one he he just passed
• 54:13
  away. I can't I can't believe I'm but
• 54:18
  anyway very cool actor. He recently passed away.
• 54:23
  Rest in peace. But I I've worked with him I've
• 54:26
  worked with Corbin blue from High School Musical.
• 54:30
  I've worked with so, So what they'll do, essentially they'll
• 54:33
  bring in this name talent to kind of, you know, uplift their
• 54:37
  films. And Danny Trejo was one of the
• 54:39
  people in the films that I was working on, and I got to work
• 54:42
  with him. Very, very cool dude.
• 54:45
  Dude, hell yeah. That's awesome.
• 54:47
  You love to hear those stories about, like, big names actually
• 54:50
  being like, decent human beings. Cool dudes in real life.
• 54:53
  That's fucking sick. 100%, yeah. Very cool.
• 54:58
  So they had Sean Astin, they had William Shatner, Mindy Robinson,
• 55:06
  Nick, Paul Michano, who is another vet who is a part of
• 55:09
  this movie, Keith David. OK.
• 55:15
  Let's find So Dale Dye was in this movie.
• 55:20
  I don't know if you know who Dale Dye is.
• 55:22
  I do not. He was the what?
• 55:26
  Tech advisor? I think he was a tech advisor on
• 55:29
  Saving Private Ryan on pretty much any war movie that's
• 55:33
  happened in the last 30 years. He has probably been on it as a
• 55:38
  tech advisor. Interesting.
• 55:41
  He as the tech advisor would take all of the guys like he He
• 55:44
  told a story on the Drinking Bros podcast about when he was
• 55:48
  the tech advisor for the movie Platoon.
• 55:51
  He took all of the actors out and did like a, I forget one
• 55:55
  week, three-week, whatever, however long it was like mini
• 55:58
  boot camp where he took all of these dudes and they lived in
• 56:02
  the woods and actually did shit and learned how to embody those
• 56:05
  roles. And that's that's a super
• 56:08
  trademark thing for Dale Dye to do if he's attached to like a
• 56:14
  war combat movie. So I do.
• 56:19
  I would love to meet Dale Dye in real life.
• 56:24
  Wow. Jesse Merlin is in that movie.
• 56:30
  Marcus Luttrell is in that movie.
• 56:34
  Tim. Tim Kennedy, Leroy Leroy Petrie,
• 56:38
  Petrie Petrie. Sorry.
• 56:43
  Dakota Meyer and Clint Romesha. Mary Dag.
• 56:49
  Yeah, but they had. Crazy cast.
• 56:54
  Right. So they funded that movie on
• 56:59
  Kickstarter or GoFundMe. That was a crowd funded movie
• 57:03
  and they raised like a ridiculous amount of money to
• 57:06
  shoot this film. Wow.
• 57:10
  Yeah, that's that's kind of like as you're saying that it reminds
• 57:13
  me you guys have heard of the chosen right.
• 57:18
  I think so. The Chosen Yeah.
• 57:20
  So, so it's ATV series about the life of Jesus and the 12
• 57:27
  disciples. Yeah.
• 57:29
  So that's kind of how that started to just small
• 57:33
  crowdfunding. They did the first season and
• 57:35
  now it's like 1 of the toughest grossing TV series of all time.
• 57:41
  And I would know that because they were kind of hounding down
• 57:44
  my door to, to play this, this character in that, but I, I had
• 57:49
  to politely decline. Who were they trying to get you
• 57:55
  to play, Dennis? OK, that's fair.
• 58:04
  You don't have to answer that. I think you were thinking of Tom
• 58:07
  Sizemore. Tom Sizemore, Yes, that is cool
• 58:11
  dude. Cool dude.
• 58:12
  Funny. Hilarious first film that I did.
• 58:15
  I did. I did two or three very first
• 58:18
  one improv to everything. All of it.
• 58:24
  He was I was like, hey, here's the script use up.
• 58:26
  Nope, don't eat it. Use.
• 58:27
  I already know the story. I got it all right.
• 58:30
  Wonderful. The reviews are great.
• 58:33
  That's awesome. Yeah.
• 58:37
  So circling back to three Dudes Save America, we soft pitched
• 58:41
  this to you. And by we, I mean I Are you down
• 58:47
  to play our eccentric philanthropist billionaire
• 58:51
  villain for Three Dudes Save America?
• 58:56
  I'll just say this, MSE, the place to be my people will be in
• 59:05
  touch with your people. And by your people, I mean you.
• 59:09
  I was. Going to say, Mike, we need to
• 59:11
  get people. Fuck we did, people.
• 59:16
  Wait, this is real? You're doing it.
• 59:22
  Oh shit. Yeah, I, I definitely 100%,
• 59:25
  yeah, I'm with it. I mean our core cast is set
• 59:29
  then. I am with it.
• 59:31
  I, I play a really, really good villain.
• 59:34
  Like 95% of the roles that I've done were me being the villain
• 59:41
  aside from Jesus. Yeah.
• 59:46
  Like, how do you get that right? Like, like, how how do you go
• 59:51
  from playing drug dealers and, you know, the cartel leaders
• 59:58
  and, you know, just these diabolical characters.
• 1:00:02
  And then I get a call from my manager and he's like, hey, man,
• 1:00:06
  you're going to Dallas. You're you're.
• 1:00:09
  You got cast as Jesus all right. Let's go.
• 1:00:15
  So it was. It's just funny to me that I
• 1:00:18
  played villains and then I played, you know, the greatest
• 1:00:21
  man to have walked this earth. The hard shift, yeah.
• 1:00:27
  So if anybody's curious, anybody wants to see Dennis Marin play
• 1:00:31
  Jesus, you can get a glimpse of it in the trailer for the movie
• 1:00:34
  Apocalypse Rising. Because I watched that earlier
• 1:00:38
  and I tried to follow along with what the fuck was going on
• 1:00:41
  because it looks like that movie goes from Aliens to Florida to
• 1:00:48
  biblical times and I am so fucking lost.
• 1:00:50
  But I want to watch that movie so bad now.
• 1:00:54
  So I'll just say this, proceed with caution.
• 1:01:00
  Proceed with the just yes. So when when I took that, I
• 1:01:08
  actually am the film did good and I'm grateful to have been a
• 1:01:16
  part of the film. But playing Jesus, I had no
• 1:01:20
  business doing that. And the reason I say that is
• 1:01:23
  because I am a born again Christian, gave my life to Jesus
• 1:01:29
  and for me to put myself in his position, I I had no business
• 1:01:40
  doing that whatsoever. Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Yeah. Yeah, I, I can imagine that
• 1:01:45
  would be a, a weird internal conflict that you had to, you
• 1:01:49
  had to fight through to get that done.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah, definitely. And obviously, you know, I, I've
• 1:01:55
  accepted Jesus, I've accepted that forgiveness and you know,
• 1:01:58
  I'm saved by his grace and mercy alone and I don't deserve it.
• 1:02:03
  But Jesus, man, love you, you, you, you come from family, Mike,
• 1:02:11
  right? I do.
• 1:02:13
  I do. Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  I I grew up going to church every Sunday, and then youth
• 1:02:18
  grew up on Wednesdays. Awesome, man.
• 1:02:20
  And then I joined the Marine Corps.
• 1:02:23
  And it's kind of a weird thing where you stop being, you stop
• 1:02:29
  being religious in a sense, but you still retain a certain level
• 1:02:34
  and aspect of spirituality. Absolutely I.
• 1:02:37
  I don't need to go sit in an auditorium, right?
• 1:02:42
  My, my personal hot take. I personally don't need to go
• 1:02:46
  sit in an, in an auditorium and listen to somebody give a
• 1:02:50
  sermon. I I feel that connection and I I
• 1:02:54
  get that aspect, I get my cup filled in that sense a lot more
• 1:03:00
  from like spitting in a tree stand.
• 1:03:04
  Yeah, absolutely. Being out in nature, and I think
• 1:03:08
  a lot of that's influenced by the time that I had in, in
• 1:03:15
  treatment and going through recovery for, for an alcohol
• 1:03:18
  problem, coming back from my first appointment where like,
• 1:03:22
  right, they acknowledge that everybody going through that
• 1:03:25
  program, we're all military, we're all dealing with something
• 1:03:28
  or other. And a lot of those experiences
• 1:03:31
  for no small amount of the dudes that were there, dudes and
• 1:03:35
  chicks, a lot of those experiences would really lead a
• 1:03:39
  rational person to, to question a lot of those like poor
• 1:03:45
  fundamental faith beliefs. So they had different breakouts
• 1:03:50
  for what, what God was. And the one that stuck with me
• 1:03:53
  was the gift of desperation, right?
• 1:03:57
  Acknowledging full well that like I grew up in church and
• 1:04:00
  like I've, I've definitely got that background and I've got
• 1:04:03
  that firm fundamental understanding.
• 1:04:06
  But the that connection, that part of it right now we're going
• 1:04:13
  to get, we're gonna get kind of biblical for a second.
• 1:04:21
  So for me, like the church as it's described in the book of
• 1:04:27
  Acts is like, dude, I'm on fire for that.
• 1:04:31
  Because the church in the book of Acts was all about fellowship
• 1:04:33
  and service. And I feel like to maybe not a
• 1:04:39
  large extent, but to to an extent that's something that
• 1:04:44
  modern day Christianity within the confines of the church has
• 1:04:49
  has kind of gotten away from or dare I say has kind of lost a.
• 1:04:54
  100%, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more.
• 1:04:58
  And the thing with that is, and a lot of people like I've, I've
• 1:05:05
  got a Christian background. Straight away for.
• 1:05:08
  A long, long time. When I say I was saved by his
• 1:05:11
  grace and mercy alone, I, I definitely mean that he kind of
• 1:05:15
  pulled me back into the church. Thankfully, I, I, I attend a
• 1:05:20
  church that I absolutely love and they're not lost and they're
• 1:05:26
  doing it the way that I believe is biblical.
• 1:05:32
  And that's what it comes down to is that I don't consider myself
• 1:05:37
  to be a religious person. Jesus did not come here on earth
• 1:05:41
  to start a religion. He came here to exalt us, to
• 1:05:45
  save us. And all he wants is that
• 1:05:47
  relationship. And once that kind of clicked
• 1:05:50
  for me because I'm a very, very stubborn, very hard headed.
• 1:05:55
  Like if I don't see it, I can't believe the type person.
• 1:05:58
  But once that kind of resonated, it clicked and it just makes
• 1:06:04
  sense, you know, and we have to rely on that faith.
• 1:06:07
  But I'm with you on that. I'm not not religious at all at
• 1:06:11
  all. It's just I believe there is
• 1:06:13
  Jesus. I know he existed.
• 1:06:15
  He died for me. He rose on the third day and I'm
• 1:06:19
  here because of him. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Thank you for, for getting into that with me because I, I, I was
• 1:06:28
  definitely curious to see how you felt about it.
• 1:06:31
  So thank you for. For getting into that, like,
• 1:06:34
  like I said before we hit record like this, this show, it's, it's
• 1:06:40
  a lot of things and it's easier to list the things that it's not
• 1:06:44
  right. What we are not is a fucking
• 1:06:48
  outlet that talks politics. Yeah.
• 1:06:51
  And that's about it. Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Like everything else, fair game for a topic of discussion.
• 1:06:57
  Like we'll we'll talk about anything.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, love it. So, yeah, So yeah, that's
• 1:07:04
  actually the first time we've really talked about religion at
• 1:07:07
  all on the show. If you guys want to have me back
• 1:07:12
  and we could do a whole like just episode on religion, I'd
• 1:07:16
  love that. Yeah, that'd be interesting to
• 1:07:19
  to kind of dive into that. There was a there's a point in
• 1:07:22
  my life at the end of high school where I was competing in
• 1:07:27
  what's called the Fine Arts Festival.
• 1:07:28
  So it was like anything you can do in front of a panel of
• 1:07:30
  judges, there was an event for that.
• 1:07:35
  So there was, there was acting, there was writing, there was
• 1:07:39
  dance, there was music, There was like, if, if you can, like I
• 1:07:43
  said, if you can do it in front of a panel of judges, there was
• 1:07:46
  a category for it. And actually the band I was in,
• 1:07:50
  in high school, we either redeemed, we competed in that I
• 1:07:54
  think 2 or for two or three years.
• 1:07:58
  And I think the last year we competed, we won, we won what
• 1:08:05
  was called merit. So we took merit, which means
• 1:08:08
  that we were, we were the top. So we beat out all the other
• 1:08:12
  like Christian bands that competed in that event, which
• 1:08:16
  was astonishing. You played, they were.
• 1:08:20
  Say that again. You played bass, right?
• 1:08:23
  Yeah, I played bass and I sang yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Hell yeah. But of all of the bands that
• 1:08:30
  were competing, which I think they're like at most they were
• 1:08:32
  maybe 5-1 year. So not a huge category, but we
• 1:08:37
  were also the only like hardcore slash metal band that had a
• 1:08:42
  screamer in the band at a church function.
• 1:08:50
  And the fact that we won merit what I was told is because when
• 1:08:55
  so. So when we initially performed,
• 1:08:58
  it was a smaller room with a stage panel of judges, enough
• 1:09:01
  like standing room for maybe 100 people.
• 1:09:05
  I did a base spin while we were playing in that venue and
• 1:09:12
  apparently the stage presence is what put us above the rest of
• 1:09:16
  the bands because like musically we're all a bunch of high
• 1:09:18
  schoolers. We're pretty much on the same
• 1:09:20
  level. But our stage presence is what
• 1:09:23
  won US merit. And what winning merit meant was
• 1:09:30
  for that category, you went out at like the end of the festival
• 1:09:34
  like event and you got to perform again.
• 1:09:40
  So the first time we played small room, maybe 100 people,
• 1:09:43
  like all of our friends and family are basically crammed
• 1:09:45
  into this room and all the other folks we went to church with.
• 1:09:48
  The time Fast forward to like think of like a sizable church
• 1:09:57
  with a full band. Like you could probably see a
• 1:10:00
  couple thousand in the auditorium.
• 1:10:03
  They introduce us to go out there and play and I'll never
• 1:10:09
  forget because there, there were a lot of people who were upset
• 1:10:15
  that we had won. So our our vocalist, Gabe, he
• 1:10:21
  goes out there, he's got the mic and we start into like the, the
• 1:10:26
  pre intro and Gabe just goes, all right, everybody come up to
• 1:10:31
  the front. This is how we worship.
• 1:10:35
  And we kicked into the song. So he went out there guns
• 1:10:38
  blazing, just fucking savage. But to drive the point home that
• 1:10:45
  like, hey, your 1950s idea of professionalism and what this is
• 1:10:50
  supposed to look like, not it doesn't fit everyone and it's
• 1:10:56
  not going to fit everyone. And for us, that band was
• 1:11:00
  definitely like a ministry outreach because we had the
• 1:11:03
  opportunity to go play these venues and play these shows and
• 1:11:06
  get on tickets and play lineups with fans that weren't Christian
• 1:11:10
  bands, some of them the opposite of it.
• 1:11:15
  But we got to go out there and play and have that opportunity
• 1:11:21
  to interact with the crowd, with the fans, the people that we
• 1:11:23
  didn't necessarily bring in, but also to use that as like a
• 1:11:27
  ministry outreach. Because that put us in the
• 1:11:29
  venues where kids that would never step foot in church were
• 1:11:33
  at. And showing them that like, hey,
• 1:11:36
  it's not all like one guy on a piano and an acoustic guitar.
• 1:11:40
  Like the shit's a spectrum. Just like a lot of other things.
• 1:11:44
  Like it. Don't.
• 1:11:46
  Don't let what you think this is turn you off to what it actually
• 1:11:49
  is. Right.
• 1:11:50
  So it gave us the opportunity to like kind of break that mold
• 1:11:54
  and, and go outside of that church bubble.
• 1:11:58
  And yeah, it was a, it was a wild time.
• 1:12:02
  It was an awesome experience and I miss it every day.
• 1:12:06
  That's, that's very cool, man. I did not know that about you.
• 1:12:09
  I knew you. You went to Connection.
• 1:12:12
  Yeah. I remember, and I remember you
• 1:12:16
  were heavily involved in the church.
• 1:12:18
  Your mom used to tell me about it.
• 1:12:19
  Your little brother Jake used to tell me about it, but I never
• 1:12:24
  knew about that whole thing that you did.
• 1:12:28
  And that's really cool. And that just goes to show that
• 1:12:30
  there's a lot of different ways you can reach people, and
• 1:12:36
  there's no right way to do it. Yeah, the the only right way to
• 1:12:43
  do it is just to do it how you know how.
• 1:12:46
  Yeah. That's wonderful.
• 1:12:47
  I commend you on that, man. That's cool.
• 1:12:49
  Thanks man. Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  But yeah, go ahead, God, we can't say the same thing twice.
• 1:12:59
  No, I, I was just saying that the fact that you miss it says a
• 1:13:04
  lot too. You know, maybe, maybe there's
• 1:13:07
  something that Drew is drawing you to that, you know?
• 1:13:11
  Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:13:15
  But I, I cut my teeth playing bass on the worship team Sunday
• 1:13:19
  mornings at church. And then they call it the JV and
• 1:13:24
  the varsity team. So the JV team played Sunday
• 1:13:26
  mornings, the varsity team played Wednesday nights.
• 1:13:29
  And I, yeah, I played for both of those worship teams.
• 1:13:34
  And yeah, that really been able to get up there and like, learn
• 1:13:39
  how to play bass in real time with a whole band and figure out
• 1:13:43
  how this stuff all meshes together.
• 1:13:47
  Definitely set the foundation for going and playing scary
• 1:13:50
  screaming music with breakdowns and just going absolutely
• 1:13:54
  fucking wild on stage. That's cool, man.
• 1:14:00
  Oh. But yeah, Gavin, you want to you
• 1:14:03
  want to touch any religion topics or.
• 1:14:06
  I don't really have a dog in that fight, so you know, I'm,
• 1:14:10
  I'm not religious in the slightest, so.
• 1:14:13
  OK. I don't bash it one way or
• 1:14:16
  another, I just, it's not my cup of tea, you know?
• 1:14:21
  Yeah, yeah. So, but as long as you're not, I
• 1:14:28
  don't think infringing is the right word.
• 1:14:30
  But that's the one that comes to mind is long as you're not, you
• 1:14:35
  know, being a Dick about it, Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:38
  Force other people to, you know, believe what you believe.
• 1:14:42
  Then by all means, do your thing.
• 1:14:44
  Yeah, and I respect that. I respect that a lot.
• 1:14:50
  I've never been that kind of person to where I try to make
• 1:14:53
  you see it my way. I am sure Mike can agree with
• 1:14:59
  it. We don't judge on who you are as
• 1:15:05
  a person. We judge righteously on your
• 1:15:10
  fruits, so who you become after being saved.
• 1:15:15
  So yeah, I I would never, never push anything on you or anyone
• 1:15:21
  else for that matter. But yeah, just that mutual
• 1:15:27
  respect that comes from just being a human being and having
• 1:15:32
  differences in opinion and all. It is man.
• 1:15:35
  And. That's, yeah, that's what a lot
• 1:15:38
  of people don't have because, I mean, some of the nicest dudes
• 1:15:42
  I've ever known, like weren't religious.
• 1:15:45
  They couldn't care about it one way or another.
• 1:15:47
  And then some of the like, worst people I've ever met were the
• 1:15:52
  extremely religious ones trying to force it down everybody's
• 1:15:56
  throat. And I'm like, yeah, it's just,
• 1:15:58
  it's not a good betrayal, you know?
• 1:16:00
  Yeah. And on behalf of everybody who
• 1:16:04
  says that they're religious, I do apologize on their behalf
• 1:16:09
  because. I'm.
• 1:16:11
  Very sorry if they put a set our taste in your mouth because I've
• 1:16:15
  I've been on that end of the spectrum where I felt ridiculed.
• 1:16:20
  I felt judged by the church, by the people, And it wasn't until
• 1:16:26
  Jesus called me on back and he said, Hey, you're a child of
• 1:16:30
  mine too. And the Bible says that believe
• 1:16:34
  in me and I will renew in you your heart of stone into a heart
• 1:16:39
  of flesh. So my heart kind of softened and
• 1:16:43
  I got exposed to different things.
• 1:16:45
  And that's just kind of how it works.
• 1:16:48
  But hey man, if you are ever, ever interested, you got Mike
• 1:16:53
  and you got me now too, brother. All right.
• 1:16:55
  Well, I appreciate it. Absolutely.
• 1:16:58
  Then one, one second, one second.
• 1:17:01
  Do you mind if I just plug myself in really quick?
• 1:17:03
  Yeah, go for it, man. I'm so sorry one SEC.
• 1:17:07
  No, you're good. How was Beartooth Live like?
• 1:17:15
  What was what's your raw take on on TNM Live?
• 1:17:21
  Did some expectations exceed? Were you kind of disappointed
• 1:17:26
  and where you at? So that's the thing, it was a
• 1:17:29
  mix because I haven't been too happy with like their newer
• 1:17:37
  stuff because it's just not really like my cup of tea.
• 1:17:41
  I don't think it's as good as some of their older stuff.
• 1:17:46
  So like when they played their older stuff, it was amazing.
• 1:17:49
  It was good. They played, you know, the lines
• 1:17:51
  in between disease phenomenal. When they played their newer
• 1:17:57
  stuff, I was like, I could tell you to believe it.
• 1:18:00
  So. I will I'll send you a video
• 1:18:05
  that I saw a couple nights ago. There's this guy on YouTube, the
• 1:18:09
  yawn who a lot of what he does is he'll like do deep dives on
• 1:18:14
  bands that were super relevant and like the Myspace era and
• 1:18:18
  you'll like he'll go from like where they started out to like
• 1:18:21
  how the band progressed to either a breakup or where they
• 1:18:24
  are time now. He recently did a video on on
• 1:18:29
  Beartooth and he he touched on, he touched on the transition
• 1:18:37
  from like and the way he put it was very obviously Caleb going
• 1:18:42
  through shit for the first like 3 albums and it was raw and it
• 1:18:47
  was emotional and it was heavy. And then you get into the later
• 1:18:51
  albums and it's almost like, especially with the song free,
• 1:18:56
  for example, like from the outside looking in, not
• 1:19:00
  necessarily from the aspect of being a fan of the music.
• 1:19:03
  You see a guy who you you met in the first album who just lost
• 1:19:10
  and hated everything and making music that reflected it to the
• 1:19:14
  song free where he has gotten to a place where like this journey
• 1:19:19
  has taken him. And this is now the output of it
• 1:19:22
  is a healthy, healthy right? Happy.
• 1:19:28
  Yeah, like he's he's no longer in that dark place.
• 1:19:31
  And you got to go along over the years of all of these albums and
• 1:19:35
  watching him go through and process and deal with all of
• 1:19:38
  this shit to get to that last album that they dropped.
• 1:19:41
  And like when he laid it out like that, I was like, yeah,
• 1:19:46
  that's actually kind of cool. Yeah, no, it is.
• 1:19:49
  And that's why I kind of feel shitty for not being a fan of
• 1:19:54
  some of their newer stuff because I'm like, he's in a
• 1:19:58
  better place. He's, you know, not doing, he's
• 1:20:02
  not drinking, doing drugs anymore.
• 1:20:03
  Like he's happy mentally. He's gotten better.
• 1:20:07
  I love that form. But the music he's making now
• 1:20:13
  just isn't. I'm not at that place with him,
• 1:20:17
  so I can't appreciate it. I might go back to the dark shit
• 1:20:21
  because that's what I need. Damn it, I'm still broken,
• 1:20:25
  Caleb. Pretty much.
• 1:20:29
  I love that. I love that.
• 1:20:32
  Yeah. Like the one newer song they
• 1:20:34
  have free again, right? Talking about that one.
• 1:20:37
  I fuck with that song so hard and I don't know, I think it's
• 1:20:42
  like after I saw that video, I I listened to it again and I was
• 1:20:47
  like, yo, OK, I get it, I get it, It's it's good, right?
• 1:20:52
  It's not, it's not in between, it's not the lines, it's not any
• 1:20:57
  of that shit that I absolutely fell in love with.
• 1:21:00
  Yeah. But I, I understand it and I
• 1:21:04
  appreciate it, so I I fuck with that song and that's the only
• 1:21:09
  one that's really popped up from their newer stuff.
• 1:21:13
  Well, that's my. New one they've released in like
• 1:21:16
  3 years right? So, well, even the album before
• 1:21:19
  that where he was trending in that direction.
• 1:21:22
  Oh yeah. Like I there's like one or two
• 1:21:25
  songs on that album that I'm like, yeah, fuck yeah.
• 1:21:29
  That's the way I felt with it too.
• 1:21:33
  Like another example of that is like the plot in you like their
• 1:21:37
  early stuff. Yo I I get down on that so
• 1:21:43
  fucking hard. Like that disgusting Genting.
• 1:21:46
  But they didn't. They just changed style.
• 1:21:50
  They didn't really have any like big revelations or anything.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah, they didn't go on a spiritual mental health journey.
• 1:21:58
  They just got played on the radio.
• 1:22:02
  No, no, they just blew up on TikTok, that's all.
• 1:22:06
  Yeah, Yeah. That's fair.
• 1:22:10
  All right, Dennis, we have only a few questions left before this
• 1:22:15
  just devolves into absolute debauchery.
• 1:22:21
  So what? What crazy stories do you have
• 1:22:26
  that like either from the wrestling days or from the
• 1:22:30
  acting days or the professional wrestling days?
• 1:22:33
  Like just hit me with like just you're crazy at a party talking
• 1:22:38
  to somebody. What is your go to story?
• 1:22:42
  Oh, man. Well, in my early wrestling
• 1:22:51
  days, I had to watch a lot of people.
• 1:22:56
  Some of my closest friends do a lot of drugs.
• 1:23:04
  It, yeah, just pro wrestling in itself, it's not as hyped up as
• 1:23:13
  it is to be, especially in the early stages when you're paying
• 1:23:16
  your dues, there's a lot of heavy drug use and you're on the
• 1:23:22
  road a lot and there's some crazy shit that happens.
• 1:23:26
  And I had to learn the hard way that it was going to be a very
• 1:23:32
  long road ahead of me if I was going to stick to it.
• 1:23:35
  And it's almost as if I was meant to kind of put that part
• 1:23:40
  of my life behind me because who knows what I would have gotten
• 1:23:43
  involved or in. But thankfully, I had two loving
• 1:23:49
  parents who helped straighten me out.
• 1:23:51
  And, you know, like, I'd like to think that I have a good head on
• 1:23:56
  my shoulders. So that part I did not partake
• 1:24:00
  in. I just solely stuck to
• 1:24:04
  wrestling. But it was hard to deal with,
• 1:24:07
  you know, see some the closest people you loved and you cared
• 1:24:10
  about and you would go on the road with them and hang out with
• 1:24:14
  them and they became like your family.
• 1:24:15
  And to see them kind of spiral out of control like that, it was
• 1:24:20
  hard, you know, to to watch. And, you know, you do what you
• 1:24:26
  can to kind of wean them off of it.
• 1:24:28
  But if you've ever dealt with that in your life or had to deal
• 1:24:33
  with somebody who was going through that, it's a difficult
• 1:24:35
  thing. Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm sorry I
• 1:24:39
  went a little dark there, but yeah, Nah, man.
• 1:24:44
  Yeah. All good.
• 1:24:46
  If you if you think that was dark, buddy, you need to go back
• 1:24:48
  and listen to episode 1. Episode 1.
• 1:24:51
  All right, I will. Episode 1 got it, got it.
• 1:24:55
  It didn't get. I won't say it got dark, I'll
• 1:24:58
  say it got fucking real. Real.
• 1:25:01
  OK, I'll ask. It got super fucking real.
• 1:25:05
  I'll definitely have to check it out for sure.
• 1:25:09
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:25:13
  Last thing, we kind of touched on it a little bit and I think
• 1:25:16
  it's hilariously relevant for where we are in in episodes of
• 1:25:22
  this podcast. But you, you dabbled in music a
• 1:25:25
  little bit in in high school. Yeah, you were.
• 1:25:28
  You were part of a band for a little bit.
• 1:25:30
  I was, yeah. Really.
• 1:25:32
  I was, Yeah, I I played the keys for for at the time it was
• 1:25:37
  called tomorrow. Maybe too late, but they
• 1:25:40
  revamped and they now call themselves Are We dreaming?
• 1:25:45
  Good. Good buddy.
• 1:25:47
  Yeah. Really good, good friends of
• 1:25:52
  mine. We actually, we reunited at the
• 1:25:56
  10 year fanfare out in Pontiac, MI and yeah, it was Chris Roach,
• 1:26:03
  Shan Mason, Danny Mason and myself.
• 1:26:06
  I played the keys, I played the synth and piano forum.
• 1:26:10
  And yeah, Chris Roach, he ended up moving schools, which made it
• 1:26:15
  difficult for us to kind of get together.
• 1:26:18
  But after that it just kind of fell apart and then they
• 1:26:23
  reconnected. So they're a band again now.
• 1:26:26
  And then I just, I obviously chased other dreams and it it
• 1:26:30
  worked out for me. It worked out for them.
• 1:26:31
  And I, I wish if you guys were listening.
• 1:26:34
  Are we dreaming? Chris, Shane, Danny.
• 1:26:36
  Love you guys. Love you guys, man.
• 1:26:42
  Yeah, yeah, I was. I was a part of that band for a
• 1:26:44
  little bit. Hell yeah.
• 1:26:47
  Was that? Was that back in the garage
• 1:26:50
  days? Back in the garage days, man,
• 1:26:54
  you know, and we didn't know or think that it was going to go
• 1:26:58
  anywhere. It was just a bunch of guys just
• 1:27:01
  getting together, you know, after school and just having
• 1:27:04
  fun, you know, over the summers, just playing some music and
• 1:27:07
  impressing the chicks. And really, that's what it was
• 1:27:09
  all about just, you know, Yeah, it was, it was cool.
• 1:27:16
  It was fun. Yeah.
• 1:27:18
  So I, I hear Mike, that you're going to be joining.
• 1:27:23
  Are we dreaming for, for a little something?
• 1:27:25
  You, you. You want to tell me a little
• 1:27:26
  more about that because I am very intrigued.
• 1:27:29
  Yeah. So right.
• 1:27:32
  As of right now, Gavin and I and actually the rest of the the
• 1:27:36
  critters that live in my house, we will be going back to
• 1:27:40
  Michigan in April. And one of one of the days on
• 1:27:45
  that trip, we plan to get together in Mr. Chris Roche's
• 1:27:51
  house with the current lineup of Are we Dreaming and the current
• 1:27:58
  as of roughly 15 years ago lineup of we the redeemed.
• 1:28:06
  And we're going to, we're going to get together.
• 1:28:08
  And if I can jam and hang out and yeah, I'm, I'm sure
• 1:28:13
  something will come of it. There's not like a, a solid plan
• 1:28:18
  for like, yeah, let's get together and write a song.
• 1:28:20
  It's like, yeah, we're just going to hang out and fuck
• 1:28:22
  around with instruments and we're going to see what happens.
• 1:28:26
  That is awesome. And yeah, I'm, I'm super fucking
• 1:28:31
  excited for that. Like like I said last week, I
• 1:28:34
  don't have words for how excited I am for that meet up and that
• 1:28:38
  just fucking brain meld and just like creative autism to happen.
• 1:28:44
  That's all it is, man. You just need a group full of
• 1:28:46
  autistic friends and just and, and especially if they're like
• 1:28:53
  artistic autistics. Yep, it's the best.
• 1:28:57
  It's the best. Gavin, you play, you play.
• 1:29:01
  No, don't. He plays the electric triangle.
• 1:29:04
  He sometimes damble dambles. He sometimes dabbles in the
• 1:29:08
  tambourine. Tambourines are cool man.
• 1:29:12
  Dude, if we actually make a song on that trip, it's going to have
• 1:29:16
  to be whatever by Are We Dreaming featuring We the
• 1:29:21
  Redeemed featuring three damn dudes, which means our podcast
• 1:29:28
  will have a fucking music credit.
• 1:29:33
  I said we could RIP it and use it for our intro and outro.
• 1:29:37
  That is so funny. We might just be able to
• 1:29:42
  convince Are we dreaming to write us an intro and outro?
• 1:29:47
  We could, yeah. But at the same time, Jimmy
• 1:29:51
  spent actual money on the rights to those songs that we use.
• 1:29:56
  Did he actually? Yeah, he, he bought those.
• 1:30:01
  God. How is Jimmy?
• 1:30:04
  I'm actually very upset that he couldn't be here.
• 1:30:07
  Damn. Well, he's a, he's good overall.
• 1:30:13
  He's, he's good. Courtesy of Facebook.
• 1:30:17
  I know that him, him and his girlfriend have been together
• 1:30:21
  for nine months, 10 months, something like that, I think.
• 1:30:25
  It's 10. Yeah, which means his
• 1:30:28
  relationship is roughly as old as my son.
• 1:30:32
  Oh wow. OK.
• 1:30:33
  So they should be crawling and pulling themselves up on stuff
• 1:30:36
  by now. Yeah.
• 1:30:40
  And working on sick, disgusting fucking gutterals.
• 1:30:47
  Gavin, I don't think I've told you this.
• 1:30:48
  I don't know if you saw the Snapchat where I fucking put it,
• 1:30:51
  but yeah, for the listeners, I, because I am a absolute
• 1:30:57
  degenerate that used to do music, I will occasionally just
• 1:31:01
  walk around the house and like and just do shit like that
• 1:31:06
  because it freaks the dogs out. And that's funny to me because
• 1:31:08
  I'm an asshole, my daughter. So I'll I'll do Lowe's and then
• 1:31:16
  I'll just like do some of those those That's what Ridley tries
• 1:31:22
  to do. But Ridley's version of that,
• 1:31:24
  sorry, Tattletale's version of that is it's just, it sounds
• 1:31:30
  like a dying sheet. So she'll she'll get there,
• 1:31:34
  right. There's still hope.
• 1:31:35
  Or she could play an instrument. She's super interested in
• 1:31:39
  keyboards and she will not leave this thing the fuck alone.
• 1:31:46
  Very nice. Which is probably for the best
• 1:31:49
  honestly. But Barrett on the other hand,
• 1:31:52
  my 10 month old fucking potato, he has found a way to just like,
• 1:32:01
  like do that without pushing. He's just like, he's got a low
• 1:32:06
  growl and you can tell when he's happy and also when he's sad and
• 1:32:10
  mad and upset because the first thing that comes out of him is
• 1:32:26
  so yeah, I'm, I'm raising a future fucking metal vocalist
• 1:32:31
  and I'm super stoked on that. I've got a failure.
• 1:32:35
  Fair, fair, fair, fair, a fair roll.
• 1:32:39
  There we go. Redneck 3 year old and a fucking
• 1:32:44
  hardcore 10 month old. I made it boys.
• 1:32:49
  I I can, I can quit. Honestly.
• 1:32:51
  Like if it wasn't for Dennis's story about his dad and just
• 1:32:55
  being present and how fucking important that is for dads to do
• 1:32:58
  out there, for all of the dads to do out there.
• 1:33:02
  You made it. Stick around for it.
• 1:33:12
  Yeah, like selfishly, I I could quit now and like, that's,
• 1:33:16
  that's a success, right? But I'm not doing that because
• 1:33:20
  I'm healthier than I was when that was an option anyways.
• 1:33:25
  Yikes. Yeah, but yeah, episode 1,
• 1:33:28
  Dennis, we we get into that right out of the fucking gate.
• 1:33:32
  I just need to watch episode one man.
• 1:33:34
  Yeah, man, it's, it's fucking wild.
• 1:33:36
  And let me tell you, you can find that on YouTube, you can
• 1:33:40
  find it on Spotify and you can find it on Apple Podcasts.
• 1:33:43
  We're fucking everywhere. Very nice, love it.
• 1:33:48
  Yeah, it's, it's wild. So that leads us, which is going
• 1:33:54
  to be super awkward with the whole religion conversation that
• 1:33:58
  we just had and has continued throughout this this episode.
• 1:34:06
  But I'm going to ask the question anyway.
• 1:34:08
  Sure, because that that's become a trademark of us having guests
• 1:34:11
  on. I'm intrigued now.
• 1:34:23
  You shouldn't be. Yeah, you shouldn't be.
• 1:34:27
  OK. And feel free to just say pass,
• 1:34:32
  right, because I suspect that's going to be the answer.
• 1:34:35
  OK, Dennis, what is the weirdest or strangest place that you have
• 1:34:42
  cranked the old hog at? Again, feel free to say pass,
• 1:34:54
  but that is a question we've asked every guest that we've had
• 1:34:57
  on so far. So it's becoming Canon.
• 1:35:02
  This is my first time on your show.
• 1:35:08
  So are you about to tell me that it's also the last time?
• 1:35:16
  Oh man, you know what I'm it's how you word it.
• 1:35:28
  First of all, it's cranking the old hawk.
• 1:35:35
  Oh man. You know what?
• 1:35:43
  It's for the listeners. I sent Dennis Most 99.
• 1:35:49
  You know, there's an actual percentage number of the
• 1:35:52
  questions that we've gone through for the episode that was
• 1:35:56
  not on the read ahead. So this is the first time he's
• 1:36:00
  hearing this question. What you're getting is the raw
• 1:36:02
  reaction. And outside of any answer we
• 1:36:04
  get, that fucking reaction was absolute gold.
• 1:36:08
  You. Know.
• 1:36:09
  Man yes, if if it. Was on the list of questions
• 1:36:14
  that you had for me. I think that would have just
• 1:36:17
  made it absolutely gold. I'm just imagining myself
• 1:36:24
  reading that. And just like Mike, oh man, you
• 1:36:31
  know what? For the audience's sake, I think
• 1:36:35
  I'm going to have to ask on that one.
• 1:36:37
  Yeah, that's fair. That makes sense.
• 1:36:40
  But but if you have me again on this show, ask me it again.
• 1:36:48
  Very well. Ask me it again.
• 1:36:52
  Very well. And you know, that's a solid
• 1:36:55
  dude. I honestly thank you for that.
• 1:36:57
  I needed that. This old podcast has been just a
• 1:37:02
  whirlwind of emotions and I needed that, so thank you.
• 1:37:06
  Yeah, man. Thank you very much.
• 1:37:08
  We're here for. Oh jeez.
• 1:37:13
  My, my literal all, all of that laughing that that was that was,
• 1:37:18
  that was a good question. So a fun fact that is not an
• 1:37:25
  appropriate conversation starter at the urinals.
• 1:37:29
  Found that out the hard way. I think this is how you should
• 1:37:32
  open up all of your future podcasts.
• 1:37:36
  First question I'll be where do you think?
• 1:37:40
  Not where, not where do you? What's the weirdest?
• 1:37:43
  The weirdest Sam. Oh man.
• 1:37:46
  Because for me, I think we talked about it in episode 12,
• 1:37:50
  one of the previous episodes, I was in on a field X on a field
• 1:37:56
  exercise out in the desert in Southern California.
• 1:38:00
  And I, looking back at it, realized that the cami netting I
• 1:38:05
  was standing under was only roughly waist high to the
• 1:38:09
  ground. So anyone out there with NBGS
• 1:38:13
  would have just seen a pair of legs with cock and balls out
• 1:38:17
  just going ham in the desert. So yeah, I'm not proud of that.
• 1:38:24
  It's funny, I'm not proud of it, but it happened.
• 1:38:30
  Hey, as long as it's funny, that's what counts.
• 1:38:36
  We broke Dennis. Yeah, like it's it's bad because
• 1:38:43
  I am picturing it so his legs, cock, balls.
• 1:38:50
  And. Mike, I know you.
• 1:38:53
  You're my, my, my best friend in high school, man.
• 1:38:55
  So oh man, I'm, I'm crying a little.
• 1:39:05
  Oh shit. That was good.
• 1:39:07
  Oh. Brother.
• 1:39:10
  Fuck sake. OK?
• 1:39:14
  Fuck Mary. Kill you right now.
• 1:39:15
  I'm kidding. We're not.
• 1:39:16
  We're not doing that. Was that?
• 1:39:26
  It was night time, so the night time in the desert, it wasn't
• 1:39:31
  that hot. It was, it was apparently hog
• 1:39:35
  cranking degrees outside because, you know, the wind blew
• 1:39:39
  and I was like, ah fuck, it's been 20 minutes.
• 1:39:41
  I got to take care of this. Dude, I am wheezing.
• 1:39:53
  It's it's my unspoken sin, so to speak.
• 1:39:56
  You know what I mean? Does your mom watch this show?
• 1:39:59
  I hope not. Sorry, Heather.
• 1:40:06
  Oh. Geez, she's heard on this.
• 1:40:10
  Oh, God, no, definitely not. Oh, shit.
• 1:40:15
  All right, Dennis, do you have any?
• 1:40:17
  I mean, obviously you've got things coming out, but do you
• 1:40:19
  have anything coming out soon that you can talk about or
• 1:40:25
  pitch? Not anything soon.
• 1:40:30
  I don't. I don't.
• 1:40:33
  But I do have a project that I will be working on third quarter
• 1:40:39
  of the year. So like October, November, I can
• 1:40:42
  talk about it just a tiny bit, but is it is with a very well
• 1:40:47
  known director in Michigan. Her name is Dolores Lynn.
• 1:40:52
  I did a film with her about domestic violence, which spread
• 1:40:56
  a lot of awareness on that. I was actually playing the
• 1:41:00
  abuser in that film, and to get into that character was a great
• 1:41:06
  deal of work. It was absolutely insane to have
• 1:41:10
  to go there. And it was such a fun time on
• 1:41:12
  set because the actress that I was working with, she made it
• 1:41:17
  easy for me and it was cool. Like she's like, hey, it's OK.
• 1:41:21
  Like, you know, we can do this. We're in this together.
• 1:41:24
  This is an important story. We won a lot of awards for it.
• 1:41:27
  So I'm going to be working with that same director here in
• 1:41:29
  October and there's talks that it's going to be on public
• 1:41:39
  streaming services, one of them in particular.
• 1:41:43
  I don't know what else I can really say about it and.
• 1:41:47
  Play it safe. Yeah, but it, it is going to be
• 1:41:50
  a good one. It is going to be a really good
• 1:41:52
  one. I'm excited for it.
• 1:41:53
  It's really like my first or one of my first, like like lead
• 1:42:02
  roles. I've I've played leads and other
• 1:42:04
  films, but this is like a major leading film for me and I'm
• 1:42:09
  really excited about it. And that's going to be kind of
• 1:42:13
  the last thing that I do to kind of end this year.
• 1:42:18
  So yeah, not sure when it's going to be coming out or where
• 1:42:24
  it's really going to be shooting.
• 1:42:25
  I'm almost certain it's going to be in Michigan.
• 1:42:28
  So yeah, that's going to be cool.
• 1:42:29
  And we will be having like a probably a red carpet premiere.
• 1:42:32
  So if either of you find yourselves back home in
• 1:42:34
  Michigan, more than welcome to attend.
• 1:42:38
  It sounds like we need to do a live episode from a red carpet.
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  Red fucking words man. I quit.
• 1:42:47
  I can't say him today. It sounds like we need to do a
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  Three Damn Dudes episode from a red carpet event with Mr. Dennis
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  Marin. Yeah, and I'm sure, I'm sure
• 1:42:59
  they would love to have you guys it's.
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  Just I doubt it, doubt if they listen to any of these episodes.
• 1:43:05
  I doubt. It you're going to be asking
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  everyone on the red carpet, where's the weirdest place you
• 1:43:10
  cranked it. At Very Leading Actress.
• 1:43:14
  Hey, so I take it you probably don't crank your hog.
• 1:43:19
  What's the weirdest place you flicked the bean?
• 1:43:21
  I don't I don't know what you want from me.
• 1:43:23
  I I got I got nothing. That's super vulgar and I'm
• 1:43:28
  sorry for everybody listening, but that's that's the I guess
• 1:43:31
  that's the most I don't, I don't know how to talk about that.
• 1:43:39
  That's just funny. I'm I'm with it.
• 1:43:40
  If if you guys want to come out there for that premiere, I
• 1:43:43
  would, I would be very happy to have you, very happy to have
• 1:43:46
  you. So is it, Well, I know it's bad,
• 1:43:54
  but I'm I'm going to pull you guys.
• 1:43:56
  How bad is it that you were talking about a very serious
• 1:43:59
  topic and what I can assume will be a a pretty serious film where
• 1:44:04
  you play an abuser in a storyline that centers on
• 1:44:09
  domestic violence? How bad is it that my first
• 1:44:13
  thought was, is this where you tell us that you're a method
• 1:44:16
  actor? They're actually funny enough.
• 1:44:26
  Oh God. Hold on, hold on.
• 1:44:30
  So funny enough, when we had the red carpet premiere for that
• 1:44:35
  film, it's it's called Why Me? And I'm pretty sure you can
• 1:44:39
  actually stream it. I don't know where, but if
• 1:44:42
  you're interested, I can. I can figure that out.
• 1:44:45
  So when we did the red carpet premiere for that movie, we did
• 1:44:49
  our little panel, which was the director and the two lead
• 1:44:53
  actors, which was me and the actress that played across from
• 1:44:58
  me by the name of Zakia. So Zakia and myself, we were
• 1:45:05
  answering all these questions and there was somebody in the
• 1:45:08
  audience that obviously was there to watch the film with us.
• 1:45:13
  He had a question, he stood up and it was directed towards me.
• 1:45:17
  His question was how were you able to play this character so
• 1:45:24
  convincingly? Because I literally wanted to
• 1:45:30
  beat your ass. And he was like, I'm listening
• 1:45:35
  to you speak and you seem like a stand up guy.
• 1:45:38
  You seem really nice. You seem like, you know, you're
• 1:45:42
  decent and you know, that's complete opposite of who you
• 1:45:46
  were playing. So how were you able to do that?
• 1:45:51
  And my answer to him was he just, he's got to tighten that
• 1:46:00
  belt and just go for it. Yeah, you just got to do the
• 1:46:04
  work. That might not have been the
• 1:46:09
  best choice words I. Was going to say that and.
• 1:46:14
  And the plays almost erupted. But what I meant by that is.
• 1:46:21
  You. You.
• 1:46:22
  For, for the lack of, of a good, you know, choice of words, you,
• 1:46:27
  you have to do the work, you know, so, so it, it wasn't
• 1:46:32
  obviously, it wasn't method acting, It it was just being
• 1:46:36
  able to go there, go to the dark place.
• 1:46:38
  And that's what we do as actors is we draw from our lives, from
• 1:46:44
  people that were in our lives. And you just kind of get there.
• 1:46:48
  You go to that, that darkness, that dark place.
• 1:46:51
  And then you have somebody like Zakia, which Zakia, if you're
• 1:46:55
  watching love you. She was the one who kind of, she
• 1:47:05
  was the one who just kind of kind of pulled me, pulled me
• 1:47:09
  back from that and said, hey, you know, it's OK.
• 1:47:12
  Like I'm OK. Like we can do this.
• 1:47:14
  We can. We're doing this together.
• 1:47:17
  And I owe a lot of that credit to her because it is very rare
• 1:47:23
  that you have somebody on the set that can play that type of
• 1:47:27
  role with you. And they're just kind of like,
• 1:47:29
  we're doing this together. And you have to remember that
• 1:47:31
  like, it's not, it's not just you going to that dark place,
• 1:47:35
  it's me allowing it. So that's where that
• 1:47:38
  vulnerability comes from. And you could see it on screen.
• 1:47:41
  We, we want a couple of words from it.
• 1:47:46
  Yeah. I, I think I, I was nominated
• 1:47:48
  for the semi Film Festival out in Simi Valley, CA for best
• 1:47:55
  actor. Zakiya was nominated for best
• 1:47:57
  actress. So.
• 1:48:00
  Yeah, that, that film did pretty good and I'm proud of that one
• 1:48:02
  too. That one.
• 1:48:03
  That one was a good one. Nice man.
• 1:48:09
  I'm going to be honest, I'm I'm probably not going to watch that
• 1:48:12
  one. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:48:14
  I just knowing, knowing me and the the place that I don't want
• 1:48:19
  to go to acknowledging that that place exists time now where I'm
• 1:48:24
  at in life. I don't think I'm ready for for
• 1:48:27
  something like that. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:48:29
  And I definitely respect that. I remember when we were watching
• 1:48:34
  it, I was expecting some sort of like applause at the end, but
• 1:48:41
  everybody was just so quiet and you could hear a pin drop and
• 1:48:45
  you could tell it like it affects people and doing the
• 1:48:51
  film. Like it was so lighthearted on
• 1:48:54
  set and we had to be, you know, so so when Dolores yelled cut,
• 1:49:02
  it's light hearted. There's joking, there's, you
• 1:49:05
  know, there's that. There's laughter going on in the
• 1:49:09
  background. But then as soon as action, it
• 1:49:13
  goes there again. So people saw, you know, and,
• 1:49:17
  and I expected to be like, Oh yeah, great acting.
• 1:49:20
  But no, it's like, whoa, like, what was that?
• 1:49:24
  You know? So that's how, you know, we did
• 1:49:25
  a good job. And I'm, I'm definitely proud of
• 1:49:28
  that for sure. Yeah.
• 1:49:30
  But don't if If that takes you to a place you don't want to go,
• 1:49:35
  don't advise you watch it. Yeah, that's that's fair.
• 1:49:42
  Yeah. It's definitely going on my list
• 1:49:45
  of things to do, but yeah, I can't, I can't promise you a no
• 1:49:50
  later than date for for completing that one.
• 1:49:53
  Yeah. That that sounds super fucking
• 1:49:57
  heavy. Yeah, very heavy.
• 1:49:59
  Probably one of the heaviest roles I've done.
• 1:50:02
  Took a lot out of me, too. Challenged me probably the most.
• 1:50:06
  One of the most challenging girls I've had to do.
• 1:50:09
  But the writing was so good. The director was so professional
• 1:50:12
  about it, and that's why I'm working with her again.
• 1:50:15
  She called me about a month ago and she was like, hey, I got
• 1:50:18
  another role for you. And I was like, yeah, let's go
• 1:50:22
  for it. So I'll be working with Dolores
• 1:50:24
  again. Nice.
• 1:50:27
  Well, I'm excited for it. And as as you get to the point
• 1:50:31
  where you're able to talk about the projects that you've got
• 1:50:33
  coming in on the pipe, you've always got a an open invite to
• 1:50:38
  come and talk about it on the show.
• 1:50:39
  And we have to have you back at least once to ask you about the
• 1:50:42
  weirdest place. You fucking cranked your hog.
• 1:50:45
  You said that, not me. You said next time, so I'm going
• 1:50:49
  to hold you to that. Whether or not we ever see
• 1:50:52
  Dennis Marin again on the Three Damn Dudes podcast, we will see
• 1:50:56
  because now he, we all understand what is what is
• 1:51:00
  expected in the next one. But yeah, as you're able to talk
• 1:51:05
  about him, dude, hit hit one of us up and we'll get you back on.
• 1:51:10
  And you can, you can push whatever project you're a part
• 1:51:12
  of. And yeah, we will.
• 1:51:14
  We will support you and your endeavors as much as we can.
• 1:51:18
  I appreciate that and Mike is very nice to reconnect with you.
• 1:51:22
  Man, I miss you. I love you.
• 1:51:24
  I hope you, your family, your parents, I hope everybody's
• 1:51:27
  doing well. Shout out to Heather, Steve,
• 1:51:31
  Jake. Luke.
• 1:51:33
  Obviously, Mike, Gavin, pleasure to meet you man.
• 1:51:37
  You have a friend in me. You ever find yourself in the
• 1:51:40
  Motown Motor City? Hit me up man.
• 1:51:42
  Would love to see you. Absolutely.
• 1:51:44
  It'd be great to get together. Yeah, man.
• 1:51:48
  Thanks for asking if you're ever in, if you're ever in Maryland
• 1:51:51
  or assault rifle Kansas, yes, drop a line man for.
• 1:51:56
  Sure, man. But all right, Gavin, do you
• 1:51:59
  have any save rounds or alibis? Any final parting thoughts for
• 1:52:03
  the folks? You know me mainly, just don't
• 1:52:07
  be an asshole. That's fair.
• 1:52:12
  All right, Dennis, you got anything you want to leave these
• 1:52:15
  fine folks with? TuneIn for the next one.
• 1:52:21
  These guys are doing incredible things.
• 1:52:23
  They got they got some cool things happening with We the
• 1:52:26
  Redeemed and my old band. Are We dreaming?
• 1:52:33
  Shout out to Chris Roach, Shane Mason, Danny Mason.
• 1:52:37
  Love you fellas. Yeah, just stay truthful to who
• 1:52:42
  you guys are. Follow those dreams.
• 1:52:45
  Even if it doesn't work out, there's something bigger and
• 1:52:47
  brighter ahead of you. Absolutely.
• 1:52:53
  All right. And with that true to form for
• 1:52:57
  our for our platform here, for those of you out there, reach
• 1:53:03
  out to the boys, to the dudes, to the goons, to the folks, the
• 1:53:06
  guys and girls that you went through the suck with.
• 1:53:09
  Maintain those comms channels. Check in on your friends.
• 1:53:12
  It's no fun to go to funerals, right?
• 1:53:14
  We I think it's probably safe to say that we all know and
• 1:53:17
  understand this. So keep in touch, reach out,
• 1:53:21
  check on your fucking friends. And with that, for Gavin, for
• 1:53:26
  Jimmy, who didn't fucking show up tonight because he's got some
• 1:53:31
  shit going on, and for our actor friend Dennis.
• 1:53:37
  I almost said, I almost said your nickname.
• 1:53:40
  I'm not going to say that. Looking back on it, it's super
• 1:53:43
  weird. What nickname?
• 1:53:46
  I'll I'll tell you after we cut. Fair enough.
• 1:53:51
  For Dennis Marin, I'm Mike. This has been an episode of the
• 1:53:54
  Three Damn Dudes podcast. Thanks for showing up.