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Cory Bowman and Signal 99: Opening Day Violence · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Seven six fifty five kr CD. He talks station Brian
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Speaker 1: Thomas here, glad it be glad it's Friday. I hope
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Speaker 1: you're happy about it too. Not happy with the outcome
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Speaker 1: of the red Opening Day game. We obviously lost the game.
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Speaker 1: The parade was wonderful, the weather was great. Reds didn't perform,
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Speaker 1: But the whole city was not viewed nationally because of
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Speaker 1: the Reds game. It was viewed because of the chaos
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Speaker 1: that broke out in the street and on the program
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Speaker 1: here this morning, and welcome back, and God bless both
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Speaker 1: of you for showing up this morning. Former mayoral candidate
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, who's West End business owner and resident in
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Speaker 1: the he he's got his finger on the pulse of
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Speaker 1: everything that's going on downtown since say, of course and
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Speaker 1: signal ninety nine or one on the inside, who's got
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Speaker 1: all the information real time apparently, Welcome back signal ninety
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Speaker 1: nine and Cory Bowman. It's always a pleasure having you
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Speaker 1: on the show. Brian, So I guess starting with a
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Speaker 1: signal ninety nine, were you how is it that you
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Speaker 1: got real time information about what was going on? And folks,
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Speaker 1: if you just waking up, you don't realize that we had,
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Speaker 1: you know, waves of us running them up in downtown Cincinnati,
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Speaker 1: deploying it's praying pepper spray all each other and uh,
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Speaker 1: using tasers on each other, being violent in multiple areas.
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Speaker 1: I guess Signal ninety nine you refer to these these
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Speaker 1: outbreaks as wilden takeovers? Is that an official name for
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Speaker 1: these uh, the these street takeovers by teens, that's what they.
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Speaker 2: Call them across the country. Yes, and it's not new.
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Speaker 2: It's that you know, they do this. They create this chaos.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it involves violent and somebody's always filming it, and
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Speaker 2: then they're able to post it on their social and
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Speaker 2: get clicks and it gives them a street cred.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, oh that's just so ridiculous. I'm sorry. I
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Speaker 1: struggle with that as a concept. These people are so
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Speaker 1: shock and so awful as human beings that to justify
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Speaker 1: their existence they get street cred for being violent and
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Speaker 1: posting the violence on social media. This is a breakdown
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Speaker 1: of society.
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Speaker 2: It's very similar to the knockout game that we had
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Speaker 2: several years back. Same thing.
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Speaker 1: All right, this is this is well known and you
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Speaker 1: know we're not introducing the whole concept of street takers
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Speaker 1: to the listening audience. We see him break out all
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Speaker 1: the time. It's almost on a daily basis. But a
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Speaker 1: sad thing what happens to the city of Cincinnati who agreed
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Speaker 1: that there would be no curfew enforcement, there would be
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Speaker 1: free metro rides all day and no requirement for parental presence.
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Speaker 1: This is in that Banks area that normally would have
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Speaker 1: had a curfew. Question though, if the curfew was in effect,
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Speaker 1: and let's say theoretically it was capable of being enforced,
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Speaker 1: and I know there's question swirling around that would it
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Speaker 1: have stopped this because the curfew kicks in at ten PM,
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Speaker 1: and I get the impression that these violent outbreaks had
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Speaker 1: started earlier than that. Can you respond to that?
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Speaker 2: Oh, they started early in the afternoon. So I started
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Speaker 2: getting reports of it before twoint thirty in the afternoon yesterday.
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Speaker 2: So I started putting some stuff together and Corey and
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Speaker 2: I actually talked and touched on it several times yesterday,
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Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth. Right, right, my brother
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Speaker 2: from another mother.
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Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah. Basically we had just got back from
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Speaker 3: the parade, and it was a great parade. Like you said, Brian,
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Speaker 3: I think even Tricia Maxiew said that I Live that
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Speaker 3: she had never seen that many people downtown before, like
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Speaker 3: he was great attendance.
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Speaker 1: It was a picture so glorious, Corey, I was looking
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Speaker 1: at the picture of someone I was watching it on
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Speaker 1: television live, like this is great. I mean, what a
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Speaker 1: great thing for the city. Already's down there and nothing
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Speaker 1: is happening. Obviously I was wrong about my perception on that,
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Speaker 1: at least until the bat and so I went after
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Speaker 1: the parade was over, but at least visually packed crowds.
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Speaker 1: He's got the Redstons on smiles. I mean, only to
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Speaker 1: have this happen and pretty much ruling the narrative for
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Speaker 1: the whole day. I'm sorry for interjecting like that, but
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Speaker 1: I was just so pleased when I was watching it.
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Speaker 3: Well, I want to mention this, and I think Carolyn will,
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Speaker 3: I think Sigle night and I will back me up
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Speaker 3: on this, is that you know what you see yesterday,
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Speaker 3: what you saw last night, It could have been a
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Speaker 3: lot worse. There could have been a lot more when
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Speaker 3: it comes to shooting, for when it comes to even
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Speaker 3: possibly death last night, because what you're seeing last night
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Speaker 3: was a very proactive approach by all the law enforcement.
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Speaker 3: When I was downtown in the parade, I talked with
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Speaker 3: several officers. We started our day off at the FOP Hall,
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Speaker 3: just thanking everybody for all they do for the city.
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Speaker 3: And they they were on it. You know, they they
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Speaker 3: had a very well planned scenario case, you know, strategy
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Speaker 3: when it came to last night. So a lot of
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Speaker 3: the things that you're seeing, I mean, we still had
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Speaker 3: a shooting in Avondale last night, we still had a
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Speaker 3: stabbing in Westwood, so it was a very rough night
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Speaker 3: for the city. But I just want to commend all
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Speaker 3: the officers and all those involved, even from the county sheriff,
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Speaker 3: from the State Patrol that was there last night, because
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Speaker 3: it is seriously, even though the images seemed a little
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Speaker 3: bit crazy, it could have been a lot worse last
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Speaker 3: night had that restraint not been affected.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I join you in your salute to law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: And it was a lot of law enforcement since a
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Speaker 1: police department, along with the Sheriff's department and Ohio State
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Speaker 1: Patrol head to join in the fund here and signal
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Speaker 1: ninety night. I got the impression, or I get the
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Speaker 1: impression from the reporting on this in your comments yesterday
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Speaker 1: that those who were not on duty last night. Swatt
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Speaker 1: Team and others were called up to assist in reinforcing
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Speaker 1: the police officers dealing with this violence.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly true a lot. So every deputy in
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Speaker 2: Hammer County was called in the report downtown was on
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Speaker 2: duty in their districts throughout the county, which means basically
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Speaker 2: mutual aid kicked in. So it wasn't just OSP and
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Speaker 2: CPD and the Sheriff's office, it was every law enforcement
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Speaker 2: agency in the county because the other agencies in the
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Speaker 2: county had to cover all the beats that the Sheriff's
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Speaker 2: Office were pulled away from to go assist downtown and
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Speaker 2: quell the violence. So I want to commend everybody that
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Speaker 2: worked last night and yesterday because it took an entire village.
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Speaker 2: And when I say that, I mean it took every
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Speaker 2: law enforcement agency in Hamlin County to step up and
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Speaker 2: try to fill the gaps last night. Because CPD was
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Speaker 2: critical zero, the Sheriff's Office pulled all their resources into
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Speaker 2: help save the city basically, And I'm sorry, I'm so
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Speaker 2: mad that I woke up this morning and found out
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Speaker 2: that the city is calling it a disorder. We had
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Speaker 2: a disorder last night. We didn't have a disorder. You
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Speaker 2: don't ask for riot shields and a forty millimeter pepperball
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Speaker 2: cannon that you deployed. That is not a disorder, Okay,
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Speaker 2: that's a civil unrest. And I'm imagining I wasn't down there,
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Speaker 2: but from all the reports that I was constantly getting
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Speaker 2: by officers, by deputies, by citizens down there, it was rioting. Okay,
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Speaker 2: it was more like a riot. They were throwing stuff
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Speaker 2: at officers, they were fighting with officers. I mean, it
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Speaker 2: had you know, it had to be bad when juveniles
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Speaker 2: get pepper sprayed in mass So that's how it started,
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Speaker 2: you know, at Washington Park, and it just escalated from there.
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Speaker 2: It was chaos. It was absolute chaos. And I'm sorry,
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Speaker 2: but where was the mayor? Is he on vacation? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: he's on vacation.
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Speaker 1: I've read multiple news accounts of this from various local
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Speaker 1: media sources. I've read your accounts, and I don't see
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Speaker 1: the mayor's name even coming up, So apparently he wasn't
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Speaker 1: around to talk with or no one bothered to reach
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Speaker 1: out and ask him about all this. No reference to
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Speaker 1: Cheryl Long in connection with the riots either, and of course,
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Speaker 1: I'll throw in Iris Rawley, since you mentioned her name
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Speaker 1: and you're reporting on what was going on in downtown,
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Speaker 1: since studies signal nine as well. Silence is deafening. Let's
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Speaker 1: bring signal ninety nine cornbub in back. We just started
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Speaker 1: to unpackage this and sort of have a question about
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Speaker 1: let's see all of those law enforcement resources drawn downtown.
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Speaker 1: We live in a very unstable world these days, and
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Speaker 1: could that not have been intentionally so that law enforcement
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Speaker 1: was busy with matters going on downtown, leaving everybody else
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Speaker 1: exposed to potential acts of violence and maybe an act
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Speaker 1: of terrorism. She's just saying it out loud. Seven point
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Speaker 1: fifteen fifty five kr C detalk station. What an appropriately
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Speaker 1: timed commercial spot, seven nineteen to fifty five KARSD talk
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Speaker 1: station and trying to have a happy Friday, trying not
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Speaker 1: to think about yesterday though that's what we're talking about,
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Speaker 1: the opening day, which should have been just a glorious
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Speaker 1: grand celebration, and it was up until about time the
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Speaker 1: parade was over, and at that point we got chaos.
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Speaker 1: According to the headline of the Sense required disorder and
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Speaker 1: violence at the banks arrest following Red's opening day. So
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Speaker 1: disorder violence. But it wasn't just the banks. We had
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Speaker 1: these violent outbursts of teens running them up the banks,
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Speaker 1: Washington Park and Fountain Square. They had to shut down
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Speaker 1: the Robling Bridge Signal ninety nine is with me along
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Speaker 1: with former Merrill candidate and business owner and resident of
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Speaker 1: the West End Corey Bowman. Were these Does anybody get
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Speaker 1: the sense that these were completely separate areas the Fountain Square,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Bank's, Washington Park, three separate areas of
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Speaker 1: unruly gangs of youthsrunning them up, or do you think
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Speaker 1: these were coordinated and that they were just spread out
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Speaker 1: one sort of like I think of this coming about
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Speaker 1: as a consequence of a text message out to everybody. Hey,
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Speaker 1: we're all going to meet it so and so, and
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Speaker 1: we're going to reac havoc or do whatever we want.
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Speaker 1: But this is the time, this is the place. Any
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Speaker 1: idea that this was coordinated with these three separate or
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Speaker 1: several separate outbreaks of violence, well, first.
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Speaker 2: It won several, not three, It was several, And yes
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Speaker 2: they were absolutely coordinated, and I mean that's what they do.
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Speaker 2: You know, the incident we had last July, which they
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Speaker 2: called the street brawl Okay, you know that type of
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Speaker 2: It's the same type of thing. It's just ridiculous. And
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Speaker 2: you know what the city anticipated that this could happen, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean they knew that. And can you imagine the
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Speaker 2: horror for parents that were down with their kids enjoying
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Speaker 2: opening day and the the traumatization that some of these
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Speaker 2: parents and kids went through. And you asked about Iris
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Speaker 2: ROI bran, I'm not trying to hog all the time
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Speaker 2: from Corey, but I just want to tell you Iris
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Speaker 2: Roy was at NAACP meeting while this was all happening
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Speaker 2: in downtown yesterday. And you know, she says it's safe
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Speaker 2: down there with her people, She's safe. Why did she
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Speaker 2: have two CPD officers assigned to her for protection?
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Speaker 1: Oh well, whoa whoa signal ninety nine. Iris Rollie the
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Speaker 1: person that is most critical of law enforcement generally. She's
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Speaker 1: gone around asserting that their races. She has interfered with
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Speaker 1: law enforcement officers doing her doing their job on several occasions.
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Speaker 1: Stall on video for those who don't believe me. I
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Speaker 1: thought she didn't like police officers, and yet she got
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Speaker 1: two Cincinni Police officers assigned to protect her.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's two officers that aren't helping right or
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Speaker 2: working in or you know, quill in the violence. They're
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Speaker 2: standing there protecting her. But she doesn't need no protection
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Speaker 2: because the city's safe.
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Speaker 1: Well that's a good point. Why would she need two
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Speaker 1: police officers under any circumstance because she keeps harping that
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Speaker 1: the citing Cincinnati city of Cincinnati is safe. So that's
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Speaker 1: that's absolutely crazy. But now I'm glad that the law
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Speaker 1: enforcement downtown generally understands this and happen these street takeovers
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Speaker 1: wilden takeovers as they're referred to nationally, I suppose, as
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Speaker 1: do you know if there's any discussions about this being utilized,
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Speaker 1: this type of activity, the coordinated riots breaking out to
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Speaker 1: distract law enforcement resources, as I suggested, going into the
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Speaker 1: break perhaps so that something worse can happen elsewhere, like
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Speaker 1: a terrorist act, or to get everybody consolidated in one
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Speaker 1: error so they can well bomb the the area where
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Speaker 1: law enforcement's been dispatched. I don't know. I just look
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Speaker 1: at this as a bigger problem down the road potentially.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it is something to be concerned about. But
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Speaker 2: I do want to say this Cincinnati Police Department, as
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Speaker 2: well as the Sheriff's office. I'm going to give them
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Speaker 2: credit here. They're some of the best trained agencies in
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Speaker 2: the country when it comes to dealing with civil unrest.
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Speaker 2: I mean, between the bike squads and the CDRT and SWAT,
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Speaker 2: they're on it, and they've always been on it. They've
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Speaker 2: always always been on it, you know. And then what
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Speaker 2: happens is, you know, we get sued later and rather
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Speaker 2: than fight it because the officers were justified, the city
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Speaker 2: just right to check with taxpayer money and pays off
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Speaker 2: all these little riders and disorderly people. And I'm sure
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Speaker 2: those lawsuits are coming because a lot of people, well
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Speaker 2: got pepper bolt last night, so you can't pepper ball
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Speaker 2: my kid. Yeah, it's coming. What do you think, Corey, No,
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Speaker 2: I would.
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Speaker 3: Totally agree with you. You know, when it comes to
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Speaker 3: the distracting from downtown, our agencies have their eyes on
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Speaker 3: every area in the county and in the region. So
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Speaker 3: I would, you know, definitely trust the police officer to
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Speaker 3: do that. Like I said before, last night was a
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Speaker 3: very proactive approach to prevent it from becoming worse. It
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Speaker 3: might not seem like it could have gotten worse, but
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Speaker 3: it definitely could have gotten worse as far as deaths go,
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Speaker 3: I will say this, as far as the coordinated effort
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Speaker 3: goes number one denominator that you're seeing with this. A
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Speaker 3: lot of times, I'm getting text from people in the
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Speaker 3: West End community. I'm getting text from people on OTR.
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Speaker 3: I'm getting text from people that live at the banks,
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Speaker 3: and they are saying that is youth violence. It is
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Speaker 3: youth juveniles that are out to late at night or
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Speaker 3: whatever that might be, that are causing unrest. And you know,
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Speaker 3: there needs to be a call to action to this.
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Speaker 3: You know, what I said on the radio even last
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Speaker 3: night was that there is actually a major judicial election
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Speaker 3: happening this year with Susan Luken who is running against
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Speaker 3: Judge Bloom, who is a juvenile court in Hamilton County.
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Speaker 3: That is a huge problem in our county and in
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Speaker 3: our city right now, is that juveniles are not being
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Speaker 3: held accountable and that has to be the last straw
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Speaker 3: for it because a lot of this unrest. That's why
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Speaker 3: you're seeing the twenty one and up age limits at
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Speaker 3: the banks that people are calling for again early on
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Speaker 3: this year. That's why you're seeing a lot of the
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Speaker 3: unrest in OTR, especially in the West end, it's a
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Speaker 3: lot of youth violence and people that are out of school.
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Speaker 1: Let's pause, bring Signal ninety nine and Corey Bowman, whose
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Speaker 1: voice you just heard there back. We got more to
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Speaker 1: talk about on this issue at seven twenty five. Right
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Speaker 1: now I fifty five kerr CD talk station. Well great
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Speaker 1: time to pray, isn't it Lolgate of Heaven Catholic sed
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Speaker 1: the talk station seven twenty nine. If if you have KRSD
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Speaker 1: talk station, what a pleasure to have Corey Bowman and
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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine on the phone today to talk about
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Speaker 1: the crazy violence, unruly crowds, disorder and violence. The deployment
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Speaker 1: of pepper spray cannon balls from the police department to
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Speaker 1: disperse these unruly crowds, Tasers apparently within the crowds being
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Speaker 1: used on each other, terrible stuff. And of court, the
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Speaker 1: optics are completely awful and the whole thing screaming for
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Speaker 1: a solution. Corey Bowman and the Signal ninety nine, But
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Speaker 1: you can't pass the law and make this go away.
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Speaker 1: And you know, to the extent Mayor aftab provol or
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Speaker 1: city manager share Along or anybody on council wants to
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Speaker 1: help do something about this because what do they want.
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Speaker 1: They want more people to move downtown. They want more
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Speaker 1: people to increase the tax base they want to make
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Speaker 1: trying to put down the present downtown as this glorious
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Speaker 1: place to make your destination for a living. But more
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Speaker 1: and more of this kind of stuff happens. Listen all
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Speaker 1: the responses to your posts online where I'm never going
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Speaker 1: downtown again. You think I'm ever gonna go downtown. There's
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Speaker 1: no way this kind of violence can break out any
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Speaker 1: single time. You know, my wife and I occasionally go
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Speaker 1: to concerts at the Brady Pervase, and I'm not going
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Speaker 1: down there now. Why would I want to subject myself
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Speaker 1: to this kind of potential problem. So what can be done?
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Speaker 1: What can be done? Anything?
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Speaker 2: Well, we don't need to create a law. We already
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Speaker 2: have law. So we have laws that say, you know,
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Speaker 2: we can cite these juveniles, we can arrest these juveniles.
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Speaker 2: We can then if their behavior continues, we can cite
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Speaker 2: their parents, and if their parents don't pay the fines,
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Speaker 2: we can arrest their parents. So we don't need new laws.
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Speaker 2: We just need to enforce the laws that are already
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Speaker 2: on the books, and we can't because we have a
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Speaker 2: complete breakdown in the judicial system. Carrie Bloom is the
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Speaker 2: administrative court judge. She makes all the decisions for the
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Speaker 2: juvenile court for twenty twenty. She absolutely will not hold
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Speaker 2: these kids accountable, and all last year educating them on
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Speaker 2: what to say if they got caught on a curfew violation. Oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm exercising my first Amendment right, you can't take me in.
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Speaker 2: So that should tell you everything. You know, why we
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Speaker 2: need to vote in Susan Luken and get rid of
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Speaker 2: carry Blue. But even the adults, they get charged because
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Speaker 2: you had adults in that mix last night as well,
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Speaker 2: that's a lot of them. Are the courts are the
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Speaker 2: Are the grown up courts going to hold them accountable?
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Speaker 2: Were they going to get an arc on? You saw
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Speaker 2: some of the videos that I posted, Yes, you know,
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Speaker 2: a woman on the ground being kicked repeatedly in the faith.
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Speaker 2: It's it's terrific, okay, And that is what Cincinnati is
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Speaker 2: known for. They're building this big, beautiful stadium and this
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Speaker 2: hotel and convention center, and the tagline needs to be
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Speaker 2: come to Cincinnati because it's a real riot.
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Speaker 1: You should be in marketing signal ninety nine. But these policies,
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Speaker 1: these you know, training juveniles on how to avoid arrests
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Speaker 1: and all that. And of course once you're in the
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Speaker 1: criminal justice system in Hamilton County they are very very
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Speaker 1: soft glove and an approach of sentencing and of course
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Speaker 1: bond hearings. You can't lock a juvenile up. They don't
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Speaker 1: even they don't even bother processing them anymore. So who
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Speaker 1: did she get her authority from? Why is she so
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Speaker 1: soft on crime and trying to enable these youths? Is
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Speaker 1: that at the behest of the mayor. I have to
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Speaker 1: have pur of all the city manager Cheryl Lung, who
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Speaker 1: apparently I thought had control over the police practices. Is
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Speaker 1: this their directive? Are they bringing this about the mayor
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Speaker 1: and the city manager? Or is this Krrie Bloom?
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Speaker 2: While the mayor and Carrie Bloom are attached at the
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Speaker 2: hip and they and they have been. I mean, that's
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Speaker 2: not a secret. They have not tried to keep it
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Speaker 2: a secret.
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Speaker 1: They got a thing going on.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would call it a last night.
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Speaker 2: He might hide her his car at her house though
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Speaker 2: it doesn't get repos asked. But yeah, they know they're
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Speaker 2: on the same waveley.
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Speaker 1: So he's got no one to blame it himself.
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Speaker 2: Then he's got no one to blame himself. And and
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 1: Also, what was that Corey.
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Speaker 3: I was just going to say this that you know
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Speaker 3: a lot of people want to put the blame on
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Speaker 3: one person, one scapegoat, And we can obviously go to
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Speaker 3: the top. We had this thing in the campaign trickle
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Speaker 3: down incompetence to where it's incompetence from the top down.
20:42
Speaker 3: But what you see from across the board that this
20:45
Speaker 3: is a group effort, This is a group project, and
20:48
Speaker 3: everybody needs to get the same credit. Whether it be
20:50
Speaker 3: with Judge Bloom, whether it be with Ryl Long, whether
20:53
Speaker 3: it be with any of the contractors of the city,
20:56
Speaker 3: or whether it be with City Hall, with council. Anybody
21:00
Speaker 3: that's having this lax on crime mentality needs to be
21:03
Speaker 3: held accountable. It cannot just be at the top. It's
21:06
Speaker 3: got to be everybody. So that's that's something now I
21:09
Speaker 3: would emphasize, And you know.
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Speaker 1: I guess if I was a resident of downtown Cincinnati,
21:14
Speaker 1: I would be very vocal about this. And I don't
21:17
Speaker 1: know it's for want of local reporting, for lack of
21:20
Speaker 1: trying to get what the what the word on the
21:23
Speaker 1: street is, what the community the various communities perception of
21:26
Speaker 1: police officers and this violence that breaks out because you know,
21:30
Speaker 1: logical and reasonable suggests that residents of the city have
21:33
Speaker 1: headed up to their eyeballs with this and they want
21:35
Speaker 1: some accountability and they want law enforcement to apply to well,
21:40
Speaker 1: law breaking juveniles as well as adults. Just start locking
21:44
Speaker 1: them up and giving people examples to follow that what's
21:47
Speaker 1: going to happen to them if they engage in crime.
21:49
Speaker 1: Do you have any sense, Corey Bowman, let me be
21:52
Speaker 1: directed at use, since you live in the West End,
21:54
Speaker 1: any sense of how what the community feels about this
21:57
Speaker 1: or how the community feels about this as opposed to
21:59
Speaker 1: how iris role is all feels about it.
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Speaker 3: Well, I would say two things. Number One, when you
22:06
Speaker 3: see the criminal criminals, when you see the violent crime,
22:09
Speaker 3: paint a picture from a very small number of people
22:13
Speaker 3: painting a picture on an entire community. I'm in the
22:16
Speaker 3: West End community. And what I mean by that is
22:19
Speaker 3: when I say community, I mean the Black community. The
22:23
Speaker 3: blanket statement that the entire community acts like this has
22:27
Speaker 3: to be stopped because this is done by a small
22:30
Speaker 3: number of people, small number of juveniles that haven't been
22:34
Speaker 3: held accountable, and because of that the crime continues to
22:37
Speaker 3: be rampant because of that small amount of people. You
22:40
Speaker 3: talk to single moms, when you talk to the families
22:43
Speaker 3: that are living in the urban core, they're tired of it.
22:46
Speaker 3: They want the police presence, they want the core systems
22:49
Speaker 3: to work for them as well. So that's number one,
22:52
Speaker 3: you know. Number two, the biggest complaint I get is
22:55
Speaker 3: also from business owners. People that live on the outside
22:58
Speaker 3: of the city, but when they own businesses in the city,
23:02
Speaker 3: they're tired of it. Because you know, a lot of
23:03
Speaker 3: people called for boycotts and everything of Downtown last year.
23:07
Speaker 3: My business is downtown. I'm not calling for a boycott
23:11
Speaker 3: of downtown because we need to be able to hire people,
23:14
Speaker 3: we need to be able to run people and provide
23:16
Speaker 3: those services. So that's a very frustrating thing. Is people
23:20
Speaker 3: that own property and people that own businesses in the
23:23
Speaker 3: city as well. If it doesn't change, they're going to
23:26
Speaker 3: continue to flee and the residents are going to continue
23:29
Speaker 3: to do that as well.
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Speaker 1: That's the way I see the landscape of thinks. Corey Bowman,
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Speaker 1: you're living the reality of it right now. It's pause. Well,
23:34
Speaker 1: bring Corey Bowman in Signal ninety nine back at seven
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Speaker 1: thirty seven right now fifty five KRC detalk station and
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Speaker 1: an opportunity for me to strongly encourage you to get
23:41
Speaker 1: fattox station Brian Thomas right here talking to Signal ninety
23:43
Speaker 1: nine and Corey Bowman. Of course, a strongly encourage you
23:46
Speaker 1: follow both them on Facebook if you want, You're going
23:48
Speaker 1: to get real time what's going on in the city
23:49
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati information from both and of course Signal ninety
23:52
Speaker 1: nine was doing real time about yesterday's riots. And thanks
23:56
Speaker 1: you and I'll double down on your thanks to the
23:58
Speaker 1: coordinated effort by the various law enforcement agents sees all
24:00
Speaker 1: around the area. That was that that helped, you know,
24:03
Speaker 1: sort of stave off any bigger, broader problems we might
24:06
Speaker 1: have had. But I guess Signal ninety nine, I can
24:08
Speaker 1: ask this to you. Isn't that coordinated effort with the House,
24:12
Speaker 1: State Highway Patrol and the Hamilton County Sheriff and Cincinni
24:15
Speaker 1: Police Department and other law enforcement agencies. Isn't that exactly
24:18
Speaker 1: what Police Chief Thiji suggested be done in the aftermath
24:22
Speaker 1: of the beatdown that Holly and others received last summer
24:26
Speaker 1: when all the violence hit the streets wasn't that her
24:28
Speaker 1: suggestion and resulted her in getting placed on administrative leave.
24:32
Speaker 2: Absolutely, shee brought everybody to the table, got everybody to
24:38
Speaker 2: agree that they were going to, you know, try to
24:41
Speaker 2: hold the court accountable and you know, work together to
24:47
Speaker 2: combat all the violent crime going on in the county.
24:52
Speaker 2: And she was slaved for it. They didn't like that,
24:55
Speaker 2: They thought she spoke out of turn. She didn't. Is
24:58
Speaker 2: it chief of police? She still the chief of police.
25:01
Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody of that, and I want
25:05
Speaker 2: to say one thing else. Corey touched on it. It
25:09
Speaker 2: breaks my heart every time I see these videos and
25:11
Speaker 2: post it because it impacts the way everybody's viewsed the
25:21
Speaker 2: black community. I don't have problems with any of the
25:26
Speaker 2: black communities in our city, in our county, and they're
25:31
Speaker 2: the ones that get victimized the worst. They're the ones
25:35
Speaker 2: they're getting victimized by the violent crime. And of course
25:41
Speaker 2: they want to feel safe. Of course, they want their
25:44
Speaker 2: kids to be able to play outside. Of course, they
25:47
Speaker 2: don't want to have to watch TV laying on the
25:50
Speaker 2: floor in case of straight bullet comes to their window
25:54
Speaker 2: or their wall. People should not have to live like that.
25:58
Speaker 2: And every time I post one of these video, I
26:00
Speaker 2: was like cringe because I end up. I know, I'm
26:03
Speaker 2: going to have to block at least one hundred and
26:05
Speaker 2: two hundred people for racist comments, and it's ridiculous. It's
26:13
Speaker 2: causing more racism. Yeah, with these politics that are in play,
26:20
Speaker 2: it's causing people to actually hate the black community as
26:25
Speaker 2: a whole. And that's not fair to the black community.
26:29
Speaker 2: It's not their fault.
26:31
Speaker 1: No, you know, and the response from those crazies within
26:37
Speaker 1: any given community that it's racism to point the finger
26:40
Speaker 1: at criminals and suggest that this is a racist kind
26:44
Speaker 1: of thing that you're engaged in. Oh, you like the
26:46
Speaker 1: Somali community in Minnesota. They wouldn't lead allow that fraud,
26:48
Speaker 1: waste and abuse to go on for years and years
26:50
Speaker 1: because anytime someone raised the specter of hey, we got
26:52
Speaker 1: to go after this fraud, well that's racist.
26:54
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
26:55
Speaker 1: You want to get rid of crime, you go after
26:57
Speaker 1: the criminals. They're a subset of the broader community. This
27:00
Speaker 1: particular case, the violent youths that were running them up.
27:03
Speaker 1: I saw the video largely, if not predominantly or completely
27:07
Speaker 1: black young people. They are a subset of the black community.
27:10
Speaker 1: This is not an indictment of black people. It's an
27:13
Speaker 1: indictment of criminals, criminals.
27:16
Speaker 2: It's an indictment of their parents also because they refuse
27:20
Speaker 2: to watch their kids. Well, I can't control my kids,
27:23
Speaker 2: We'll take their phones away, you know, set their phones off.
27:28
Speaker 2: That's how they're communicating. They're communicating to their social media
27:32
Speaker 2: platforms and through text message groups. And it's the same
27:36
Speaker 2: thing with you know, it just goes on and on
27:38
Speaker 2: and on. If you can't control your kids, ask for help.
27:42
Speaker 2: But the first thing you could do is take their phone.
27:45
Speaker 2: Because I'm going to tell you, I'm talking to all
27:47
Speaker 2: these parents right now that just let their kids run
27:50
Speaker 2: them up. Well, your kids are gonna get hurt. Your
27:54
Speaker 2: kids are going to get shot. People are afraid, and
27:57
Speaker 2: they're tired, they're tired of all of it. Well, I'm
28:01
Speaker 2: going to be awful.
28:02
Speaker 1: I'll suggest Signal ninety nine. That is a great, great idea. However,
28:07
Speaker 1: a parent who realizes that the cell phone is the
28:10
Speaker 1: source of the connection with the other criminal element out there,
28:13
Speaker 1: I bet that parent does not have a child that
28:14
Speaker 1: would engage in this type of conduct because they care
28:16
Speaker 1: enough to even consider taking the phone away. It's the
28:19
Speaker 1: ones that you pointed out, don't care whether their kids
28:22
Speaker 1: are at two o'clock in the morning or whenever. Therein
28:25
Speaker 1: lies the challenge, and again that's a subset of the
28:27
Speaker 1: broader parental community out there. Most parents, I would like
28:30
Speaker 1: to think and believe, have a genetic predisposition to one
28:33
Speaker 1: of keeping their kids out of trouble and out of jail.
28:36
Speaker 1: One more was signal ninety nine and Corey Bowman, after
28:39
Speaker 1: I mentioned the wonderful folks at Galaxy Concrete, cuttings of
28:41
Speaker 1: se fifty five krcdtalk station and try to have a
28:44
Speaker 1: happy Friday, think of the weekend, think of the fun
28:46
Speaker 1: you can have, and try not to think of yesterday,
28:48
Speaker 1: although yesterday I think this is maybe the tip of
28:51
Speaker 1: the iceberg into the future. If we don't do something
28:53
Speaker 1: to crack down on youth violence. Primarily, they're not going
28:56
Speaker 1: to get a message that they shouldn't be violent, and
28:58
Speaker 1: they're going to continue to get together in huge groups
29:00
Speaker 1: and ruining the fund for everyone else on the phone
29:04
Speaker 1: here today, Corey Bowman, former maryl candidate, knows what it's
29:06
Speaker 1: like to live and have a business in the West End.
29:08
Speaker 1: He's a little concerned about people leaving and fleeing and
29:11
Speaker 1: not showing up in the city, which seems to be
29:13
Speaker 1: a growing trend. Of course, Signal ninety nine has got
29:16
Speaker 1: a finger on the pulse of everything that's going on
29:17
Speaker 1: real time with the police downtown Cincinnati. You can find
29:20
Speaker 1: them both on Facebook. I just turned the mic over
29:24
Speaker 1: to you two in any further comments about this, because
29:27
Speaker 1: we do have a real serious crime problem on our hands,
29:30
Speaker 1: and of course largely driven by wild youth who don't
29:34
Speaker 1: care at all.
29:35
Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, I'm gonna actually feel this to Corey. I
29:43
Speaker 2: you know, we're on the same page that these parents
29:47
Speaker 2: don't want a parent. You can't expect a CPD and
29:51
Speaker 2: other agencies to babysit your kids. I mean, I don't
29:55
Speaker 2: think anybody in their right mind as a parent would
29:57
Speaker 2: have just let their kids go downtown yesterday day on
30:00
Speaker 2: a company. So, you know, maybe they need a parenting class,
30:06
Speaker 2: Maybe they need to court to force them to take
30:08
Speaker 2: a parenting class. Maybe they need to go to kirk you.
30:11
Speaker 1: Know, there you have it.
30:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I just dropped off my boys
30:18
Speaker 3: at school, and you know, they go to school in
30:21
Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati right here, at a local school, and I
30:25
Speaker 3: was just thinking about you know, the roles that people
30:29
Speaker 3: play in whatever society or whatever you want to say.
30:32
Speaker 3: When we're going through a spiritual crisis like what we're
30:35
Speaker 3: going through right now, people look to government and people
30:38
Speaker 3: look to all these other governing authorities to do things
30:42
Speaker 3: that should be done in the home and be done
30:44
Speaker 3: by a church community. So when it comes to parenting,
30:47
Speaker 3: you know, a teacher should never have to replace a parent.
30:51
Speaker 3: A police officer or a government official should never have
30:53
Speaker 3: to replace a parent. A parent, you know, need to
30:56
Speaker 3: be able to fulfill those roles at home. I would
30:59
Speaker 3: encourage listening to you know, whatever stage that you're in
31:03
Speaker 3: in life, and get involved in a local church community
31:06
Speaker 3: to where you can have a support system around. But
31:09
Speaker 3: we're looking to police officers, you know, for a lot
31:13
Speaker 3: of answers. Their answer is the police officers are the
31:17
Speaker 3: last straw. Growing up, you know, if my parent told me, hey,
31:21
Speaker 3: don't speed, don't you know, act reckless, don't do anything,
31:25
Speaker 3: you know, I'd get disciplant at home. But they knew
31:27
Speaker 3: that if I just if I disobeyed my parents, Ultimately,
31:31
Speaker 3: the last straw is I'm going to go to court
31:33
Speaker 3: or I'm gonna go to jail. Or I'm gonna get
31:35
Speaker 3: pulled over by a police I don't know about everybody else,
31:38
Speaker 3: but growing up, when a cop car passed by you,
31:42
Speaker 3: you know, immediate, you know, fear went into you just
31:45
Speaker 3: because you don't want to do anything wrong. And that's
31:48
Speaker 3: something that we don't have anymore. We saw the unrest
31:51
Speaker 3: last night, and that was happening in the presence of
31:54
Speaker 3: police officers.
31:55
Speaker 1: And directed at the police officers. From what I've read too, yeah.
31:58
Speaker 3: It was directed directly. That's why they pulled in all
32:01
Speaker 3: of the reinforcements because they were already getting resistance to
32:06
Speaker 3: the officers that were already on site. So they knew
32:09
Speaker 3: they're not going to put up that We're not going
32:10
Speaker 3: to have an incident that's going to cause deaths. So
32:13
Speaker 3: that's what we have to look to the police for.
32:15
Speaker 3: If you see police they're barricading or using force like that,
32:19
Speaker 3: that's their job. Their job is to be the last straw.
32:22
Speaker 3: But we've got to enforce those values at home, bringing
32:26
Speaker 3: kids in, whether it be with the local church community,
32:29
Speaker 3: whether it be with the parents and the home, whatever
32:31
Speaker 3: that might be. And I would encourage everybody no matter what,
32:34
Speaker 3: that relationship with Jesus is going to help number one
32:37
Speaker 3: as well well.
32:38
Speaker 1: And you know that's sound advice, Corey. And I'm glad
32:40
Speaker 1: you brought up the fact that you took your kids
32:42
Speaker 1: to school teachers. And you know, quite often i'm critical
32:45
Speaker 1: teachers unions and they're woke leftist ideology. But if you
32:49
Speaker 1: want to know why kids aren't doing well in school,
32:51
Speaker 1: maybe it's because there's a classroom full of twenty five
32:53
Speaker 1: or thirty. Many of these children are the ones that
32:56
Speaker 1: were running them up in the streets and have no
32:58
Speaker 1: discipline or no concern or no care. They're the ones
33:01
Speaker 1: ruining the education environ for everybody else, making it impossible
33:04
Speaker 1: for a teacher to teach children how to read and
33:06
Speaker 1: write and perform basic mathematical calculations.
33:13
Speaker 2: But I think it speaks volumes that the agencies in
33:20
Speaker 2: Kentucky last night shut off access to the pedestrian bridges
33:27
Speaker 2: for people to come to walk into Kentucky. Everything you
33:31
Speaker 2: need to know is right there. That's that's how bad
33:34
Speaker 2: it is.
33:35
Speaker 4: Another state blocked off pedestrian accesses UH to get out
33:42
Speaker 4: of the city because they didn't want none of that
33:44
Speaker 4: in northern Kentucky.
33:46
Speaker 1: The Berlin Wall, I'm changing, Wow, well, I hate to
33:54
Speaker 1: laugh at that because it's born of a sad and
33:57
Speaker 1: pathetic reality. But boy, didn't you put an exclamation point
34:00
Speaker 1: on that one signal ninety nine? God bless you for
34:02
Speaker 1: coming on the show today. I appreciate all of the
34:04
Speaker 1: real time reporting from both of you yesterday. You know,
34:07
Speaker 1: we wait for the morning. We hope that local news
34:09
Speaker 1: would report on it, and we do have some reporting
34:11
Speaker 1: on it. But to know what's going on real time
34:14
Speaker 1: and see this information and get the details that both
34:16
Speaker 1: of you provide has just It's been a real service
34:18
Speaker 1: to the community generally, and you two both continue to
34:21
Speaker 1: be a genuine benefit for the commun the greater Cincinnati community,
34:23
Speaker 1: and most notably the city of Cincinnati proper. Keep up
34:27
Speaker 1: the great work. Both. You have a wonderful and safe weekend,
34:30
Speaker 1: and I look forward to having you both together or
34:32
Speaker 1: individually back on the program because I know we've got
34:35
Speaker 1: more to talk about down the road. Thank you, Thank
34:40
Speaker 1: you both. Thank you both. Be safe out there. Seven
34:43
Speaker 1: to fifty five. Don't go away, folks. After the top
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