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Set 1: Down 3-0 to Ikea · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 4: Mikey A. Taylor busy all on zoom with me. T
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  Speaker 3: for Tea Bob looking forward to that.
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  Speaker 4: Taylor has an idea for baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's to save baseball, but he
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  Speaker 3: has an idea for baseball. He has some sound from
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  Speaker 3: our radio show we'll be back on radio later today
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  Speaker 3: that I would like to start with before we get
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  Speaker 3: to Eric Spolstra, before we get to what's going on
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  Speaker 3: with JJ Reddick and Luca who's never gonna win a title.
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  Speaker 4: But we have some sound from the radio show here.
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  Speaker 3: Now, we had Taylor on Martin Luther king Day, say
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  Speaker 3: black up quarterback, and then he was off the hook
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  Speaker 3: because I made the mistake of I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: was saying back and then I come black. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: then Mike he took it to a whole different level.
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  Speaker 5: Is he.
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  Speaker 6: Why why I'm only I'm only now hearing the come
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  Speaker 6: black line.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, we're rushing here because is he has a
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  Speaker 3: date in thirty minutes with Jim all right, so he
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  Speaker 3: is he can't go an hour and a half without
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  Speaker 3: going to the gym, and so we uh, but let's
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  Speaker 3: start with this sound here. So again we had Taylor
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  Speaker 3: say black up quarterback on Martin Luther king Day. He
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  Speaker 3: was on the hook for a while. I said come black,
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  Speaker 3: and then Mikey did.
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  Speaker 1: This elbows are that bad?
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  Speaker 7: He says he cannot physically open a bag of chips,
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  Speaker 7: so he just ships switched.
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  Speaker 1: He just got dumped.
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  Speaker 5: A tough one.
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  Speaker 1: Did you not hear that on radium?
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  Speaker 4: I know, but did you get dumped? I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not even.
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  Speaker 7: Certain you did not hear that on radio? This is
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  Speaker 7: the first time people are actually hearing what I had done.
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  Speaker 5: Did we play that again?
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  Speaker 6: Because the the extended s on the ships like made
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  Speaker 6: it so much worse, because it's like coming to the
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  Speaker 6: slow realization of what he's saying and then just sitting
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  Speaker 6: in it for a second before he bailed.
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  Speaker 1: His elbows are that bad.
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  Speaker 7: He says he cannot physically open a bag of chips,
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  Speaker 7: so he just ships switched.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, you just got dumped.
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  Speaker 4: No pun intended.
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  Speaker 5: A tough one.
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  Speaker 4: Good. Uh, he can't open a bag of chips, so
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  Speaker 4: he just shits. He just sh.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I guess it can't open it, right, Yeah, so
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  Speaker 6: he just shits. O God, which if that was the case,
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  Speaker 6: can it open? Can't open it up? Good to switch?
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  Speaker 6: A Kringles definitely can poop in that can.
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  Speaker 4: Let's yeah, did you sit with that all weekend? Mikey?
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  Speaker 4: How do you? I?
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  Speaker 7: You know, I had forgotten about it after the show
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  Speaker 7: and then Iowa Sam sent me the clip and I
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  Speaker 7: was like, nope, it was worse than I thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: In the moment, I was like, did I say it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I said no. I definitely said it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell Iowa Sam you don't need that on a
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  Speaker 3: Friday headed into your weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you made the mistake. You're well aware of the mistake.
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  Speaker 3: You certainly don't need to be reminded of the mistake
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  Speaker 3: so you could enjoy your weekend.
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  Speaker 4: That's all upsetting you.
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  Speaker 1: Guys said bad things. I got dumped.
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  Speaker 6: Big difference thinking of places to shit, Taylor, are you
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  Speaker 6: in a model home at the moment?
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing but empty white.
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  Speaker 6: Shelves and a single mirror behind him, And it looks
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  Speaker 6: like he either broke into an Ikea or is like
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  Speaker 6: squatting in an empty home?
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  Speaker 8: Is he I've been building Ikea furniture for the past
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  Speaker 8: seventy two hours.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Not well, no, is he You missed this.
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  Speaker 3: He went to Waikea for the first time on his
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  Speaker 3: birthday and he said there's nothing like it's his first
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  Speaker 3: time at Ikea and he sends me a tax Nothing
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  Speaker 3: can prepare.
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  Speaker 4: You for your first trip to an Ikea.
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  Speaker 5: That is so true, man.
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  Speaker 6: I'd heard about ikeas for years and years, and I
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  Speaker 6: drove by one down here in South Florida, like way
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  Speaker 6: down south back a few years.
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  Speaker 5: I guess I was going to Key West or something,
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  Speaker 5: and I.
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  Speaker 6: Was like, oh, look in Ikea and then they built
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  Speaker 6: one up north and man, is that a project to
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  Speaker 6: have to go through? It's like and frankly, all I'm
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  Speaker 6: looking for is the meatballs. I heard something about their
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  Speaker 6: having food over there. Yeah, maybe that was pre pandemic.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure. But man, everything everywhere. You have to
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  Speaker 6: look in every corner to find stuff, like everything has
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  Speaker 6: crazy names. And then building it all. Man, No Swedes
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  Speaker 6: know how to put almost everything you need in those boxes.
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  Speaker 5: It's always going to miss a little something.
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  Speaker 1: How is the Flugenstein going? It's kicking my ass? It
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  Speaker 1: does that?
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  Speaker 9: Does the Flugenstein kick your ass? Put it on the pole?
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  Speaker 3: You fought the Flugenstein and the Flugenstein one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm down at least three to zero right now. In
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  Speaker 1: this Sees.
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  Speaker 6: Coming Back, you go to Taylor's house and put a
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  Speaker 6: book on the shelf, it just slides down.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just trying to steal one game right now, make
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  Speaker 8: it respectable, just to get to get it.
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  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, gentleman sweep.
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  Speaker 3: It does looked like a model home though, is he
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  Speaker 3: is right? I've moved into a model home before.
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  Speaker 5: That looks really like I don't want to buy furniture.
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  Speaker 5: Just give me that one.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, it's so convenient. I mean that it was a
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  Speaker 4: model house.
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  Speaker 3: They were showing the house off at a Toll brother's
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  Speaker 3: property I used to live on, and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this looks good, We'll take it.
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  Speaker 5: I believe that is the entire premise of the Arrested Development.
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  Speaker 4: I never watched Arrested Development. Good show.
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  Speaker 1: You should.
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  Speaker 5: It's only the best comedy show ever, I.
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  Speaker 3: Know, but I'm not alone and not watching it. Like
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  Speaker 3: the ratings were never were never great for that show, if.
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  Speaker 6: They care, kind of a cult show, like after not
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  Speaker 6: even because the numbers weren't good enough.
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  Speaker 5: That's why I got canceled.
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  Speaker 6: And they actually played into that in their third season
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  Speaker 6: about them not having the numbers and cant and canceling
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  Speaker 6: the show and begging people to save our Bluths and
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  Speaker 6: all this stuff, save the family. And then after it
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  Speaker 6: got canceled, especially and largely because that it was so
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  Speaker 6: good and people were clamoring for it to continue. After
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  Speaker 6: it got canceled, everybody got into it and it just
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  Speaker 6: became a mega mega here.
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  Speaker 7: There's actually a line in it, please tell your show
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  Speaker 7: your friends about this show.
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  Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna say shit again almost for Mikey.
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  Speaker 3: But I feel better now because I'm off there, You're
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  Speaker 3: still atted.
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  Speaker 9: Who's gonna get Who's gonna get me off?
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  Speaker 4: You know what?
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  Speaker 6: It's It's interesting because his mistake was a common curse
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  Speaker 6: word that if you say off of you know, live radio,
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  Speaker 6: nobody's gonna care about, and was not aired. So the
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  Speaker 6: only people who know that happened now that we've done
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  Speaker 6: this are listeners of our podcast. But you guys, effectively
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  Speaker 6: it could be considered racist for your mistakes, and I
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  Speaker 6: think you're the worst.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks smy come black, be your day.
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  Speaker 8: To be fair to Steve Gotts. When Stu Gotts had
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  Speaker 8: come black, he was talking about Indiana State's basketball team
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  Speaker 8: with Larry Bird, who were probably very white.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the whitest team in the history of college basketball.
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  Speaker 4: I believe Sycamores.
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  Speaker 6: That had to be pat Riley's all white Kentucky team. No,
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  Speaker 6: there was a whole movie about that, speakable. Does he
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  Speaker 6: ever make a mistake? Because listen, if you had.
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  Speaker 3: To gamble right now, Mike, you and who's gonna get
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  Speaker 3: you off the hook? Between me, Taylor and Izzy, you're
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  Speaker 3: certainly not choosing, Is he right?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 7: No is He's way to the odds are just not
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  Speaker 7: even worth playing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I think where you might find me making a mistake
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  Speaker 6: is if we get a little too comfortable and I
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  Speaker 6: just forget I'm on radio, because if that happened, I
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  Speaker 6: might just drop two like purposeful curse words, and then
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  Speaker 6: you know we're all doomed.
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  Speaker 4: Taylor put it on the pole.
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  Speaker 3: Do the only people is the only person in the
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  Speaker 3: world that cares about the word shit radio?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: You could say it and everyone just moves on with
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  Speaker 3: their day. No one cares, right, conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Does it stop?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: My niece just got my sister just got a phone
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  Speaker 6: call from my niece's teacher in school said that she
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  Speaker 6: keeps saying what the fuck and we all need.
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  Speaker 5: To be a little bit more careful about what we say.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm like, yeah, my other nephew used to say
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  Speaker 6: it as well, but he didn't enunciate correctly, so he
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  Speaker 6: would say what the pump?
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  Speaker 5: And so now we say that around.
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  Speaker 6: Have me and Anthony say what the pump all the
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  Speaker 6: time so he can get the curse word out of it,
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  Speaker 6: but he still says it, And now people at school are.
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  Speaker 5: Just like, what is he saying exactly?
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  Speaker 7: The best part about that is the proper reaction to
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  Speaker 7: getting a phone call from the teacher is what the fuckuck?
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  Speaker 4: Get the fuck out of here. You didn't say that?
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  Speaker 1: What is wrong with you? You keep saying? Dare you?
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  Speaker 5: I will say I take the blame for that. I
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  Speaker 5: think I say it when I drop in the house
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  Speaker 5: more often than anybody else.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, guys, happy March. We're here, March. It's arrived.
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  Speaker 4: I miss March. I love March.
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  Speaker 3: Is he the basketball starting to heat up? College basketball MBA.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting close to playoff time and for me that's
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  Speaker 3: the start of the season. But I am told here
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  Speaker 3: that you want to talk, and I have no idea
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  Speaker 3: what this is about, even though you told me about
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  Speaker 3: fifteen minutes ago something in regards to Eric Spolsra.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to JJ Reddick here in just a second.
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  Speaker 5: Well, first, see, I feel like you and Ish.
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  Speaker 6: You guys are on the same page on so many
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  Speaker 6: things and we don't even know it. Because I was
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  Speaker 6: just having a conversation two days ago, two days ago,
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  Speaker 6: three days ago March. First, I was like, why don't
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  Speaker 6: we wish each other happy March? Why don't we wish
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  Speaker 6: each other happy months. We talk about the beginning of
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  Speaker 6: the week all the time. Monday, Oh, we hated it, whatever,
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  Speaker 6: but it's a Monday. Hey, happy Monday, or you know,
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  Speaker 6: welcome back, how was your weekend? Blah blah blah. We
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  Speaker 6: do it obviously with years, Happy New Year. Why not
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  Speaker 6: just a hey, happy March. Thank you Judy's for wishing
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  Speaker 6: me a happy March.
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  Speaker 4: I will have it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you're welcome. I mean, listen, March madness is right
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  Speaker 3: around the corner. April it's there. Yes, it's also March fourth.
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  Speaker 3: You missed your window. Come on, I haven't spoken to
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  Speaker 3: him in a couple of days, and so I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to go out of my way to wish you
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  Speaker 3: a happy March. Like I'm not going to call you
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  Speaker 3: or send you a text. I barely do that on birthdays.
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  Speaker 3: But when I see you and it's March, is he
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  Speaker 3: is right? We should wish each other thank you a
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  Speaker 3: happy March. So happy March everyone, Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: I appreciate that, and I'll still take that. A few
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  Speaker 5: days late.
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  Speaker 6: I also makes me realize that we've made the fans
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  Speaker 6: wait because we've been off radio for two days.
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  Speaker 5: For the final twenty final ten.
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  Speaker 5: So I was thinking about SPO for a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 6: One, there was the interaction between JJ Redick and Luca
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  Speaker 6: that got a little bit of attention recently UH during
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  Speaker 6: a game on the bench. And then there was the
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  Speaker 6: basically saying that Kalel is a talent that he likes
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  Speaker 6: playing with and that Coalel will listen to Bam more
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  Speaker 6: than he listens to Spoke, right, which, on the surface, okay,
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  Speaker 6: a player is going to listen to another player, probably
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  Speaker 6: more than a coach, especially if it's a young player
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  Speaker 6: maybe doesn't really have all the ins.
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  Speaker 5: And outs of the NBA put together.
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  Speaker 4: But Bam is a mentor of his right, I mean.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, Bam is the captain.
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  Speaker 6: He's the mentor to anybody who's willing to have him
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  Speaker 6: as a mentor. But obviously from big to big it
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  Speaker 6: works out well that way. But then I started thinking
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  Speaker 6: about sort of spose time as the head coach and
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: how and why it's worked out so well. And if
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  Speaker 6: you think about the timeline of things like well, think
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: about the Miami Heat for a second. They talk all
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  Speaker 6: the time about how they like conflict, Right, they encourage
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  Speaker 6: conflict because the best comes out of that. Right, If
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  Speaker 6: people are arguing about something, whoever wins that argument is
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  Speaker 6: probably going to, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, tell you, hey, this is better for the team.
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  Speaker 6: Is better for us, better for you, whatever, and so
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  Speaker 6: that conflict creates a little bit of crazy like they
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  Speaker 6: had that with.
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  Speaker 5: The Lebron Dwayne Chris Bosh teams.
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  Speaker 6: The tension and the pressure created that element of you
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  Speaker 6: have to go above and beyond to reach the goal
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  Speaker 6: that we want to reach. I know we're talented, but
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  Speaker 6: we have to reach within and bring that level of
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  Speaker 6: nutty competitor out to match these expectations because there are
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  Speaker 6: other super talented teams out there coming after us, and
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  Speaker 6: they had enough of that, right, The pressure created that, Yes,
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  Speaker 6: fast forward a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: The talent helped though the talent.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, the talent made it championship teams.
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  Speaker 6: Right If it was less talented with the same amount
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  Speaker 6: of crazy, maybe they get to the conference championship or
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  Speaker 6: something like that, but they still maximize their ability. You
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  Speaker 6: fast forward a little bit and you lose some of
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  Speaker 6: that pressure, that tension when Lebron leaves, but it sort
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  Speaker 6: of recovered some when you have Eudonnis Haslam right on
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  Speaker 6: the team. And the reason it's important to have somebody
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  Speaker 6: on the floor that matches your coach's level of intensity
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  Speaker 6: and crazy is that the players like khalel Ware aren't
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  Speaker 6: always going to listen to the coach. Some of them
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  Speaker 6: are going to say, coach, how do you know what
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  Speaker 6: level of crazy it takes for me.
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  Speaker 5: To win out here?
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  Speaker 6: You haven't even played at this level, right, So you
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  Speaker 6: need somebody on the floor to be able to get
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  Speaker 6: that out of them, to be able to somebody that
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  Speaker 6: you respect and somebody that plays at that level. And
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: that was Eudnnis Haslam right for after he won the championships,
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: crazy respect that even somebody like Hassan Whiteside would have
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: to listen to him, right. And then you bring in
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler, which is sort of the perfect timing for
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: that because he is that level of crazy competitor. He
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: is the guy who's not even as talented as other
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: peers of his, but the effort and the willingness and
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: the little bit of crazy makes him their peer. Yes
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: when and that's again that helps Spolster because he doesn't
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: have to be the voice to get across to all
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: those players on the floor.
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: Now, look what happened.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: Jimmy Butler not only leaves, but on his way out
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: undresses the coach basically, and I have some inside information
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: on this. If Spoe told him to go left.
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Jimmy would go right just to mess with the coach.
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: Just at this point, they'd be at a spot where
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: he didn't want to be there. He obviously thinks he's
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: more credited for what the success of the team should
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: be credited than the coach himself, and so.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: He now clashes with the coach.
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: Yes, Eudonis has them, can't save them because he's not
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: playing anymore. He can do that on the practice floor,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: but on the actual floor, can't really save them because
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: the crazy that's on the floor is now not lockstep
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: with the coach.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Crazy who's on the floor has the ball in his
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: hands most of the time. Right, And when they were
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: beating the Milwaukee Bucks in the playoffs and making it
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: to the finals and Spoe same page as the time
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: went on, not so much.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: And so not only does that take.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: A little bit chip away a little bit of the.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: Respect that Spoe gets from his other players, but now
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: that Jimmy's gone and Bam is your leader, and Bam
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: I love him to death. He's a great human being,
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: not that level of crazy, not the Jimmy Butler Lebron
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: James Pressure level of crazy.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: He's just a quality dude.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Okay, So you take a little bit of that respect away.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: From from Eric Spolstra.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: You don't have the Eudonnas has them Jimmy Butler on
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: the floor to to you know, move that from the
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: bench to the floor. And you don't have the same stakes,
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: right because you're obviously not considered playoff or championship contenders,
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: and so that isn't going to be what drives him.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: So you're left with players feel like they're.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: Playing hard but not quite to the level that they
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: need to be to be great, to be to maximize
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: one thousand percent of their potential. And Spoe can hammer
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: at home all he wants, but you don't have the
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: guy on the floor doing it. And this is why
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: I believe Spoe has turned to the I'm going to
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: publicly criticize khalel Ware pretty much the only one available.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: He's out of options, right because he's out of options
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: and he needs to find different ways to motivate these guys.
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: He did it some with Hassan Whiteside, which was necessary,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: but obviously had the help of Youudnnis has them when
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: he was there. So you look at all that and
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: it's just a long way of saying, if you don't
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: have the player on the floor that demands more from
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: the his teammates than even the coach does, right, you're
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: not going to get the coach who can do that
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: same level of demand and direct the response from those players.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: He can't be out there on the floor. That's why
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: he's pulling his hair out. That's why he's making these faces.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: It drives him crazy because there's nobody else to match
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: that or teach that on the floor for those other guys.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And the care that you're talking about can show itself
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: in many different ways. It could simply be the best
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: player on your team, working harder, showing up earlier than
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: everyone else. Because if Michael's doing it, if Dwayne's doing it,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: if Lebron's doing it, you better fucking fallow the line, right. Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: So the locker room kind of polices itself once you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: lose those leaders. So it's the combination of having those
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: guys their effort and their words as well, combined with
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: what the coach says, and they're locked up with Eric Spolstra.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: When you lose your leaders and there isn't a great
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: player on the floor setting an example for the rest
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of the team. Yes, your voice naturally becomes hollow, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I think that's happened with Spolstro.
• 20:42
  Speaker 8: This kind of feels like a where there's smoke, there's
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: fire situation. Is he from the outside looking in? Are
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: we heading towards a place almost like John Harbaugh in
• 20:51
  Speaker 8: Baltimore where if you let Spoe go, a lot of
• 20:56
  Speaker 8: teams are going to be interested, for sure, But at
• 20:58
  Speaker 8: some point do you you kind of have to look
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: at it and be like, whatever we're doing here isn't working,
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: and both teams are better both parties are better off
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: going separate directions.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Gostra.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: The reason I wouldn't compare it to Harbaugh in particular
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: is because the way people think of John Harbaugh is
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: as an organizational leader strictly, like he can organize things.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: He can take the offensive coordinators game plan, take the
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: defensive coordinators game plan, know how to implement it, and again,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: you know, because of his history, has the respect of
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: his guys. But Spoe is also an innovator, like spoken
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: to all that stuff and innovate, like the coaching change
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: or the offensive change that they made this year, completely
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: different with a good amount of the same players, completely
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: different than what they've been doing before, even go back
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: to the Lebron James Dwayne Wade years, like they needed
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: some level of switch, They needed some innovation to happen,
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: and some of that was because of Chris Bosh. Some
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: of that was because of Dwayne Wade, but he made
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: it work. So I think the Miami Heat, based on
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying, would rather be, would rather say to themselves, Oh,
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: we can just get another player that either has that
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: level of you know, Heat culture crazy, or we can
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: get a player that automatically raised the stakes and it's
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: just like, hey, guys, if you don't listen to me,
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: you're going to fall flat on your head.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Trust me.
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: I know I've done this before. So I don't think
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: it needs a new voice. I think you just need
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: to recreate the formula.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: The Heat have had that player, maybe more so than
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: any other organization in the NBA that is in lockstep
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: with its coach for so long. It was Alonzo Morning
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: with Riley, it was Zoe a little bit with Spolstra,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Eudonnis Haslam with both Riley and Spolstra. Then it was Wade,
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: then it was Lebron, then it was Chris Bosh and so.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Lebron took him. What's that Lebron took a year, but
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: he eventually was yet.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think the best thing that happened to
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: that team was them losing the first NBA Championship when
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: they lost to the Mavericks, because you know, it became
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: abundantly clear that hey, this isn't going to.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Be that easy. The Horball Lamar stuff. So there's two
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: ways Izzy.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: The stars could just leave your team and you suddenly
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: don't have anyone who has your back and is setting
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: an example. Or in the case of John Horbon and
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the Baltimore Ravens, that superstar has your bat, but then
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: he's not seeing the results that he wants to see,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: and suddenly he no longer has your back, and you
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: know who leaves the coach, not the quarterback.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: It's funny that you mentioned that Dallas series because what
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: was that team that he team missing?
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: It was missing all out Lebron.
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: He was too calculated, he was too trying to figure
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: things out. No, dude, that's when you needed to go nutty.
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: That's when you needed to just go absolute primal, which
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: is what Dwayne did. Who would have won MVP of
• 23:46
  Speaker 6: that series. Had they won it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Lebron was sitting there calculated, now that point that other
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: team is super good.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: You need to just put on the just the best
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: amount of crazy that you could put in there and
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: just go all out, and he just wasn't doing it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yep, you remember that title. Though we thought we had
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: it locked up. We I mean, listen, we were the
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: flagship station of the Heat. No listen, I negotiated the
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: deal to get the Heats right, So I was part
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: of the team. I was, and I also had season
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: tickets Section one eighteen about that sold that I was.
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: Still with Harold while they were still you know, having
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: columnists travel to events.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: But you remember they were shadow boxing like Game two
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: at home, Wade and Lebron in the corner thought the
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: series was over. And I did think right that moment,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and so did they, that they were not gonna win
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: just one. They were gonna win two, three, four, five, six,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: seven and eight straight. And I thought it was gonna
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: be that easy. And then the MAVs came back, they lost,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: and the Heat went on their run.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: What a shame, by the.
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: Way, because the shadow boxing thing was so cool and
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: that's what I want my superstars to be man like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: I want Michael and Scottie go back in time and
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: do a little choreographed dance every time they do something dope.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: And then because the Mavericks remembered that and it happened
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: right in front of their bench, they used it as
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: the rallying cry for why they turned things around.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: I'm like, man, that sucks. Nobody's you gonna do cool
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: shit again?
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: Taylor? Are you looking up the shadow boxing between Lebron
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: and Wade?
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: It was glorious, It really was. I mean there was
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: a fucking party going on the Ana from the Map series. Yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: the Maps series first season with the Heat. I think
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: if someone hit a big three in the corner and
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Wade and want full recap, just go back and listen
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: to four years of Heat. I was hosted by Israel
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Gutierrez the iHeartRadio.
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: Yes, wasn't there also something where like Dirk was sick
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: and Lebron and Wade and Bosh were like mocking him.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: For being sick crazy, So they were essentially suggesting that
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: Dirk was faking an illness because he wasn't playing that well.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: And so when they walked by him or something, or
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: walked by a camera they were over there and it
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: was I'm telling you, man, that was the Lebron James
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: effect on Dwayne Wade, because I don't think Dwayne Wade
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: would ever have done that if he wasn't made.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: They were feeling good about themselves. Yes, Dwayne Wade was
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: mister professional. He never would have done that. He knew
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: what it took, would champion Gypsy one mom without Lebron.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, and still, you know what, dark head, what
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the last laugh?
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: That's you know what? The cure for Dirk was shadow boxing.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, Derk Novinsky can say for the rest of
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the time, I never lost to Lebron James in the finals.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: That was that other Texas team, Right, He's the only one,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: even though san Antonio beat him the second time around.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Many guys on those teams lost to them the first
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: time around, right, Right.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: But yeah, And so I think about that with the
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: heat and I'm like, Okay, that makes so much sense
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: as to why, Like I get frustrated as hell watching them,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, you guys need a defensive stop, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: guys are getting layups on you left and right, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: it's just like, yeah, it's a different it's a different animal.
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: It's a different way of thinking. If you remember, man,
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: if you remember Jimmy Butler one game, a regular season
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: game against the Phoenix Suns, and it was down to
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: a final possession and he was just playing one on
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: one defense against Devin Booker and took so much pride
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: in shutting that dude down and getting that block on
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: the last possession. I can't remember a time this season
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: that the Heat have gotten a huge defensive stop late
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: in a close game.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: I haven't, and that was that's their calling card.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: So it's just it's it's a very frustrating thing to
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: watch when you know, I feel like you know the
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: exact reason.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Why, uh do you guys feel Listen, it took almost
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: a year, I feel like nine months or so, but
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: we have finally hit Iszi's wheelhouse.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, he is well. I couldn't stand the conversation Spultra.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, oh man, Now, if you want to take
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: me to the mid to mid twenty teens and talk
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Miami he basketball, you'll have me here for ten hours.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: I will even skip the gym.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Now you won't. Now you'll work out while I do it.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: None of us believe that.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: No one believes that.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Well, it appears as he will will get you out
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: here for your date with Jim. But it appears that
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: JJ Reddick. None of the players like it, no leaders,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: no one likes him. Everyone's bumping him. Lebron I thought
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: liked him. They were doing a podcast together. Then he
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: had an altercation with Luca on the sidelines. He's had
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: one with Lebron jj Reddick. I don't know how long
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: it's gonna last for him in LA.
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny reading the quotes from the fallout
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: of that, JJ saying it felt like a normal interaction.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Lucas saying, we have a good relationship. It's all good.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: It reminds me of a little bit of what I
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: was talking about before. But I feel like Luca is
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: the type of guy that just says, listen, coach, I
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: don't need you, okay, I just need the right guys
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: around me. Because his level of crazy is knowing that
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: he can put up fifty in any game if he
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: really wants to, and if the threats around him are there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: And so Luca, because he doesn't love the NBA like that, right,
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: He's not like Lebron. His whole life is meant to
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: match Michael Jordan. He doesn't care that much. He just
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: kind of wants to show off a little bit. It
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: doesn't match the same level of desire as JJ or
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: what they're asking for.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: So those two can.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Get along off the floor all they want on the
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: floor because they see things differently, They're always gonna clash
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: like that and maybe it'll work out, maybe it won't,
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: but it's just they don't personality wise, definitely don't match.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: You guys, want to revisit that conversation about apologizing to
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Nico Harrison. I mean, anyway, I think Stephen Ay apologized
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: to I saw someone apologize to him after I apologize
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: to him.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I was first. I mean, I was kind of look
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: at where Anthony did. What did they get back?
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Just do the actual math on what they got back
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: for Luka doncics because it no longer includes Anthony Davis.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: Not a good trade.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: He does not deserve an apology.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: It's it's not what they got back, it's what they
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: got rid of.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: And what they got rid of is a lazy loser
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: who's never in shape, who's never gonna win an NBA time,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: who can get I mean, seriously, by.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: The way, you know it took me a while to
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: get to this.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: When when Spoe tells you, who has three rings on
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: his finger, to go left, and you have no rings
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: on your finger, go fucking left? How does that say
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: You can't go right when the coach tells you to
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: go left until you have a ring on your finger?
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: Tailor put that on the poll.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Can you go left when the coach tells you to
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: go right if the coach has three rings and you
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: have none?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, who the hell is Jimmy Butler?
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: To take me a while to figure out that pole question,
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: But yeah,