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Ioniq 5 N...and Donna calls the show!! · The Driver's Show

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Well here we are finally. Good to see you, Gordon,
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: I don't believe you. Good to see you, Pavle, good
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: to see Are you being sponsored by that that dinosaur
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: brand with the walking stick?
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, you wear that a lot. No, I'm not.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: No, just did you just go into that store and
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: just buy a whole heap of ship and just go this?
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: I'll do it just fits my beautiful body.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, your zeke, your your glistening pecks that wouldn't look
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: out of place on a yacht in the Mediterranean.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Guilty is charged speaking? Which I was there recently? Were you? Yeah?
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: Colus enough, I was in Nice. It was quite nice.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: And where it is you've been sitting on that ever?
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Come back? You want to?
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: You on some sort of boat surround by an electric boat.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: Fat kind of European men with you.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Know we Australian man. That was other murtoring journealists. No
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Tremor was there. Yeah, that's it. It wouldn't be buoyant
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: with him on it. No, just kidding.
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  Speaker 3: No, we were there for the porchum car launch, which
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  Speaker 3: we'll talk about soon.
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  Speaker 2: But we're on an electric boat.
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: So this was basically a boat that runs a porschem
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  Speaker 3: of carn motor and one hundred kilo what our battery?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's cool.
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  Speaker 3: And if you thought that electric cars were not great
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: for long distance driving, how about an electric boat which
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: we left the harbor with fifty percent literally fanged around
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  Speaker 3: in this just outside nice for I reckon ten to
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: fifteen minutes maximum and it was down to twenty five
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  Speaker 3: percent and he had to put it in range mode
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: to get hited back to the Oh god.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: So it's funny when man at Carr manufacturers do boats.
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: Lamborghini's got a boat. Yeah, the Lambo Boat's call though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is cool. That looks something straight out about man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, one of my friends has two of them because
• 1:49
  Speaker 3: you can in one frames. But this, this Porsche boat
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  Speaker 3: is it's more designed as a tender, so a little
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: bitch boat for a bigger boat. So I guess that
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: kind of makes sense, and it means you can every boat.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: Harbor has three phase charging, so it's easy to charge it.
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  Speaker 1: But I love how someone thought water and electricity. That's
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking do that.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wowe oh you know what, I you know what
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: I did have a cheeky crack at that bloody Toyota
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: b f z X whatever, the one that sounds like
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  Speaker 1: Elon Musk's kid, but that one.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: So you've been in this, right, you've been in this car.
• 2:31
  Speaker 3: I can't see the speeder. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: don't know if that's just a mean thing. I think
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: it's a you thing, you and your weird shaped head.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: I actually thought of that when when I sat in there,
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what's Paul talking about? Like the head's up
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: display looks all right. I think it sort of depends
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: on how you maneuver it. But it was such a
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: it's a confusing car that it's really confusing because it's
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: what it's Toyota's first EV and it's actually the one
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: I was in was top spec, well appointed, looks really
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: quite plush in the outside. I mean it's like Toyota
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: every now and then do this gimmecky sort of car design.
• 3:06
  Speaker 2: It's eighty thousand dollars. That's my only issue with it.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: If it was a cheap, cheerful forty to fifty k,
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: you kind of go, eh.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: Eighty k. Yeah.
• 3:17
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you where it makes sense. It makes sense
• 3:19
  Speaker 3: in the entry level front will drive version. And the
• 3:22
  Speaker 3: reason that car I think, Like, to me, I don't
• 3:25
  Speaker 3: think it's an amazing ev but the market for them
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: is Toyota customers. So it's someone who drives a camera
• 3:33
  Speaker 3: that wants an electric car, and it is literally just
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: an electric camera.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: You get into it and it's Toyota.
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: There's buttons for everything, it does all the Toyota stuff
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: that you expect it to do. It's just very safe,
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: conservative Toyota. So to me it could actually do. Okay,
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't buy one. I don't think it has
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  Speaker 3: the tech that I want out of it. I can't
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  Speaker 3: see the speedo, which kind of important. But yeah, I
• 3:58
  Speaker 3: think that.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see how it goes for them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Is it the same platform as that Subaru that they're
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: bringing out, Yes, the yeah Solterra yep.
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  Speaker 1: I think the only difference that that's going to have
• 4:10
  Speaker 1: is they'll rip out any interior that looks remotely interesting
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: and just dumb it down, because the sol Terra interior
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: shots were pretty plain. But yeah, look, I thought it
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: was a good car.
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: Like it drives. I think it drives great.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: I think it looks interesting, but the price tag blows
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: my mind, Like, especially in that market, I mean.
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: Sure, what are you gonna buy? You're gonna buy.
• 4:33
  Speaker 1: You're spending eighty thousand dollars on something that you think
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: is quality, you know what I mean, it's a brand name.
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: Here's the biggest issue for them. Just when was it
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: three or four days ago? Tesla dropped their prices massively.
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: So let me quickly run through this because this is
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  Speaker 3: going to be Toyota's biggest headache because.
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  Speaker 2: Because now let me open this up. He's opening up
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: his ass. Guys, he's not talking about anything here. We
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: want said, just get rid of your shit all over
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  Speaker 2: a car brand. Here we go, Okay, here we go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So Tesla has just dropped their prices again. And to
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  Speaker 3: put it into context.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: Model three now starts at fifty eight thousand, nine hundred dollars,
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: which is the cheapest it's ever been.
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: Cheapest Tesla Model Y sixty nine hundred, which again is
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: the cheapest it's ever been for the price of or
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: similar price to that top spec BZ four X. You're
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: getting significantly more Tesla and you can even stretch to
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: a model wide performance for eighty two nine hundred. So
• 5:44
  Speaker 3: this is a huge price reduction. So if you compare
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  Speaker 3: it to the peak, So it peaked to just after
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: Model Y came out at seventy two three hundred start price.
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: It's now sixty nine hundred, so twelve thousand dollars cheaper.
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  Speaker 3: So Tesla is definitely trying to compete with its other
• 6:01
  Speaker 3: Chinese manufactured siblings, and the I guess the side effects
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: of that are going to be anyone that has gone
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: and bought any of these other evs that are now
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: significantly more expensive than the Tesla. The other thing that
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: that Tesla hasn't really thought maybe they have thought about
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: and they just don't care, is people that are trying
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: to now.
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: Sell these because.
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was going to ask with the Toyota,
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: because the depreciation on evs is terrible, but a Toyota
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: being a Toyota, they kind of hold their value, okay.
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: And Toyota's selling a lot of these on leases. They're
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: not really trying to push a driveway price. They're trying
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: to push a lease that means they just take it
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: back at the end of it and then who knows
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: what they're going to do with it then. But the
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: interesting thing here is if you took out a novated
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: lease with a model y at its peak, your car
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: on a two year ovated lease is going to be
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: coming up for it's residual and balloon that for me
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: is forty three thousand dollars. So at the moment, if
• 7:04
  Speaker 3: your balloon is forty three thousand dollars and a brand
• 7:07
  Speaker 3: new one is sixty thousand dollars, you're going to be
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: on the second hand market at about between forty and
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: fifty grand. I just think, I don't know that a
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: lot of people are going to be buying these secondhand,
• 7:20
  Speaker 3: and that is going to push the price of them
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: down even more as people try and panic sell because
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: they want to meet their balloon payment. And if you
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: have a look at a lot of the instant offer
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: people on the internet. So at car Expert, we've got
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: an instant offer thing. Car Sales has an instant off
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  Speaker 3: a thing. They're all offering high thirties for the model.
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: Why at the moment, wow, I just speak, it is
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: going to be grim. And that's why people who ran
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: into this novated least thing thinking oh well, I'll save
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: money on my tax and all this sort of stuff,
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: they're going to get the shock of their life when
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: it comes to the balloon payment and not being able
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: to sell the car for anywhere near the balloon payment
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: and then being under So if that is you, email
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: us contact at the Dryshow dot com today. What do
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: you think about Tesla taking you know, twelve grand off
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: the price of this thing that you bought that hasn't
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: changed at all.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Tesla, what I saw drive around Sydney yesterday.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: They decided to sneak in a cyber truck.
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit cheeky and you know what they did,
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: just not not trying to get too much attention.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: They drove it to Bondai and parked a.
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: Bit park it parked at a Bondai and they did
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: park it at the shopping mall in Double Bay.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: Now that whole area is quite affluent, and it looked
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: so out of it.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: Just there's something about the cyber truck, maybe because they
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: haven't been here, but you know what it is, It
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: looks so out of place in Australian roads.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: It is it is. This is going to sound creepy,
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: but it is the guy that goes to the children's
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: playground in a trench coat. It's you. It has nothing
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: on underneath them open to his trench car. It's the
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: shock that is the most amazing compots.
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: You know what, This car is like a pedophile, That's
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: what it's like. This car's like a guy who owns
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: a trampoline but doesn't have kids, but.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: It's one of those people who just wants shock factor. Right.
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: That is what the car is about, and that is
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: why it will be short lived in terms of its popularity,
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: because if you're the first to have one, everyone's like, oh, well,
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: look at this thing.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: But I think it will end up being like the
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: what was the as Tech Pontiac Oh yeah, yeah, Pontiac Aztek,
• 9:30
  Speaker 2: the car out of Breaking Bad.
• 9:31
  Speaker 3: It just looks like that, which at the time would
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: have been like, oh wow, I've got a Pontiac as tick.
• 9:36
  Speaker 3: It's look at me now. You look at and you're like, oh,
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: it's a Pontiac as Tech. I think that's what the
• 9:41
  Speaker 3: cyber truck is going to end up being, because I
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: think it looks cool now and cool in the sense
• 9:46
  Speaker 3: that it's different to everything else. I can't see it
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: being a longer term thing. It's in Australia, where people
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: were asking why is it in Australia, Right, It's probably
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: in Australia to test software and hardware. So they actually
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: brought out a model ess plaid played a little while back,
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: which we don't get here and we won't be getting here,
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: and they brought that out to do some testing.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Typically, if they're testing.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: New cameras, for example, they want to check that it
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: works with our road signs, and they might roll those
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: cameras out into the Model three and the Model Y,
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: which we do get in Australia.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Interesting though, that they did that with a cyber truck.
• 10:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look at you get two things out of it. One,
• 10:21
  Speaker 3: you get to drive up interest. Tesla sales are declining
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: that they're having big issues as a company in terms
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: of hitting targets and selling cars. Second part is you know,
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: if you bring it around here, everyone wants to go
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: get a photo with it. And next to it, conveniently
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: is a Model three and a Model Y. So I
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: think they'll end up probably doing a bit of a
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: road show tour around the country with it just to
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: get that interest up.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: But who does.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: There is a picture of it parked at Double Bay.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: Oh god, just in my cyber truck trying to fight
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: a car park because I'm late for plarties.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got to meet up for cappuccinos with the girls.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Lander two. That is as a fat little bagger, isn't that. Yeah?
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, look at it's right up against the curb
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: and it's sticking sticking out, so it's a big old thing.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: Can't see it coming here? I just can't. Well, it
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: won't be coming here.
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: And I'll explain why they build it only in Texas
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: and currently they have a huge order bank in the
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: States for it. Their production is incredibly low like that.
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: They haven't figured out how to actually mass produce it yet,
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: so they're going to be figuring out the States for
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: quite some time before they even look at anything.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: In right hand drive. What is that? That's a hememache
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: on the back of a I know why you're sitting
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: at a patrol Yeah, this and via patrol Warrior. That's
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: just because you can want to know anyway. Anyway, the
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: key ut right? What is it called the Tasman or
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: some Tasman?
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: So the ad dropped, which we forgot to talk about,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: but I'll bring it up now. I think everyone I
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: think it's some bloody clever advertising. I think it's it's
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: fantastics x Yeah, it's really well done. The problem is,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not the sportiest bloke in the world.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't know who the fucking of them were. Ash Barji, Yeah,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: it's like ash Barti. Is she the one that sailed
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: solo around the world? Which run?
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: She?
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that the guy in anyway.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: So apparently they filmed that in Bondai at a pub. Yeah,
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: over a couple of days.
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: The Bondo pub. Yeah, it was filmed in Bondo Okay. Yeah.
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: But I was actually asking someone about this. I thought,
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: this is an expensive ad. If you have to get
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: that many celebrities.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Please wend All Sailor's in it. That's his first gig
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: in quite sometimes who that is? But I was at
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: the Sailor the one that went around Yeah probably.
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: So yeah, And apparently what happened was they got a
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: couple of big names on board, and when the people
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: they approached her that the big names were on board,
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: they wanted to be involved as well, So it ended
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: up becoming a fomo thing. Yeah, they weren't all there
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: at the same time, but they look like they were.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: So it's a clever campaign because this is a big
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: deal for Kea and if you look at Australia for
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: KEA where home of the Australian Open. Obviously they're a
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: global sort of partner of that event, so Keia Global
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: spends a lot of money here, so that means that
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: KEA Australia benefits from the advertising, the cars that they
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: have to buy to run the event, et cetera. And
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: the ute is going to be we will probably be
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: the primary market for that vehicle unless it goes to
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: the States as well, and they're putting a lot of
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: effort into right and handling tuning here. Australia has had
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of involvement in the development work for that car.
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: What we do know and we've just put a video
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: up on car Expit about this, we do know that
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: it won't have V six so it'll only be four cylinder.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: There is an electric ute coming, but it may not
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: be coming to Australia, so that's due to be launched
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: next year.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Four cylinder. Could this be a hybrid, No, just diesel,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: straight diesel.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: Currently their only four cylinder diesel is like four hundred
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: and forty ut meters, so it is pretty piss week.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: If they do want it to compete, it'll need to
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: be the or seventy to match Triton or five hundred
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: to match Ranger and high Lux, so that they're the
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: things that they have.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: To focus on. The design. I don't know if you've
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: seen it, but it's interesting looking. I don't hate it, Okay,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: I don't hate it. I think it looks all right.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: It looks good.
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: So we had our guy do some sort of renders
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: based on all of the spy photos we've had so far,
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: and this is what he's come up with.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what do you think? It's just showed me
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: some Butcher's paper and crayon drawing geese. Your guy must
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: be really good. I like it.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it looks good. The headlights yeah, vertical, yeah,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I think that. I think they're a little bit more
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: square on the real thing, aren't they.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: No, this is this is the okay, look like right? Well, yeah,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: I think it looks good. I think it looks good. Interesting. Well.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Most of the time, I'll shit on a car, literally
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I did. I did want on yours on downstairs. Unfortunately
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: it wasn't actually yours tops car.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: The key I'm excited for it. I'm excited. You know
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: what the care you could even be my new car.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Oh watch out you, you tray to you.
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a bit itchy. I'm getting a bit itchy.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: I'm getting some new car fields.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I'm currently kind of going, I think of only.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've really taken the out back to the
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: art back and beyond.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: I mean it's dark. You would if it wouldn't run
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: out of fuel.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to the edge of s We're still bloody,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: averaging twelve twelve leaders per one hundred k's something weird.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Do you know what else I noticed about it too?
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's got front sensors, like parking senses doesn't.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think it has risk senses either. Nah, it's
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: got a camera, yeah, and that's about it.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other day I was like, this car doesn't
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: have front parkers. That's a screaming noise. Yeah, Oh that's
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: my key. What's her a handbag on the bottom. Oh
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: that's my wife. What's going on? Oh? Well, their fault,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: not mine.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: No. The other day I was like, I'm going to
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: test this. This definitely doesn't have senses. And we're at
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: our house.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: We've got one of those those gates, you know, that
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: electronically open with the driveway, and so I'm just kind
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: of like, before I do this, I'm just going to
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: give it a little bit of a Yeah. It definitely
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't give it a nudge. Yeah, yeah, definitely doesn't have
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: fucking senses.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: What I've learned from this is not to buy a
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: car from Gordy. Yes, it's going to be on the
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: second hand market very soon.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I'll let you know, to be honest with you, I'll
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: probably still keep it because I think I stand by
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: It still drives great, just choose up the fuel a
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm starting to shop around, start to shop around.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Maybe I could be looking at one of the cars
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that we're sort of going to be talking about later on.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go on. Oh, We'll just going to give you
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a little bit of a sneak. Yeah, okay. Well I
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: drove the BYD Seal Performance oh wow, and I freaking
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: loved it. Interesting, I did. I really, I really enjoyed it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: The problem, which we'll get into, but the problem with
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of these cheap performance evs, and I mean
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars is not you know, but it's not
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: exactly MGX power.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Cheap which is like what fifty.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: They tend to drive fast, obviously in a straight line,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and then the handling on them is just generally rubbish.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: This handles brilliantly. So well, it's such a smooth car.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it's got the speed when you need it too.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: It's tucked away there, so we'll talk about it later.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: But get you some tissue paper for that gushing, just
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: to clean it up. What do you need? That's some
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: tissues for your gushing?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. She just took that. Someone's been on Born
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Harbor bit too much. God, something's front of mind. Hey,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: some cars that have been dropping lately, the new lambou
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Urus was it the s Yeah, top of my head?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: V eight hybrid?
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, I'm plugging hybrid now listen. Can we just
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: take one second before anything else? Is it just me
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: or a plug in? Hybrids just a bit shit in
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: terms of just a pain.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: In the ass.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: So yes, yeah, well, especially when they're half a million
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: dollars and you're just adding weight to this thing. Know,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the vight engine is augmented by an electric motor, so
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: it adds one hundred and forty kilo. What's a power
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: four hundred and eighty new meters of talk. The problem
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: is that it's integrated into the eight speed auto, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: every car I've driven now that has a plug in
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: hybrid integrated into an eight speed automatic transmission hasn't been
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: great because unlike a Toyota hybrid, for example, where you
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: have a CVET or you know, it's not actually a CVT,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: but something that's designed like a CVET, you're getting instant
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: talk because you're not waiting for this thing to figure
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: out which gear it needs to be in. When it's
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: integrated with the transmission, the electric motor doesn't do anything
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: until the transmission is in gear effectively, so when you
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: go to step on the throttle, there's still momentary ladag.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I don't know. To me, yeah, it seems fine.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: But they tend to and obviously haven't driven it, but
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: they tend to work better once you actually have an
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: electric motor that can operate independently of everything so that
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you can actually get that initial surge of talk, and
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: then once the engine's ready to get then sort of
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: picks up the balance.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: It just feels like it like to fill something up
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: with petrol and to plug it in as well.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Just that alone on any car I just find just pointless.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think this will end up feeling a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: bit like the BMWXM and that is just not a
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: great car.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Like it's fast, yes, but it's just a bit complicated
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: and annoying to drive. So I understand why they're doing this.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Obviously the Volkswagen Group needs to move towards electrification. But
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: to me, I would just be buying a regular Urus.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: And you know what, we actually have just filmed a
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: new drag racing series. We're filmed in regional Wa and
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: one of the cars we used was Anenorus perform Ante
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that you can only buy if you've bought the CNSA
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: SCV twelve. So that is all no plug in hybrid
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: stuff in that, and it is so much fun to drive,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: so you don't need the plug in hybrid.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: You know. It's yeah, I don't.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Know what else has dropped? Oh haal have been dropping
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: a few little bits and pieces. I know we've got
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: quite a few. Haveal fans? Have we have apparently who
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: listens to this podcast apparently.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Have a look at them, then huh, have a look
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: at them, then have a look at what the fans
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: look at them? Then Okay, the cars, I'll make the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: jacks bro.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: What about that they've called it the havel wrapped there
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: you go. We should swap your wraptor out for a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: havel rap.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I might have to one hundred and forty five kilometers
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: of electric range. Speaking of feathers, super cute not on
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: a half from Fee fee feather Neck. I don't know
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that's a radio show here in Melbourne. This is me
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: just me doing the old play on words.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And why Melbourne? Is that because you're national?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Now national guys, Brizzy, Sydney.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: And min Yeah?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Actually, you know what I noticed with our merch
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: drop that I decided to tease the people with we.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Went out of extra large very quick. Did Donna just
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: take them?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Donna took four and just sewed him into a bed sheets? Yes,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you don't want to know about Donna's bed sheets. We
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: should give her a call later. You should check in
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: with Donna latter.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea. I think that's a
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: great idea. We'll check in with Donal later. What else?
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wanted to get your thoughts on the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Porsche McCarn ev because I remember seeing the press photos
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: when they dropped this. Press photos are an interesting I'd
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: love to talk to somebody who does press photos for
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: these car companies one day, because I feel like they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: can make or break something like in terms of a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: McCann or there's been so many cars where the BMWM two.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: When I saw pictures of that, the press photos of that,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I thought it was the most hideous looking thing ever.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But then when you get in it and you see it,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and you know, when you actually see it in the flesh,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: it looks so much better, like when you're standing in
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: front of it. But yeah, the mccarne v. I mean,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: technically there shouldn't be too much difference styling wise, but
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I thought it looked a little bit boring the way
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Porsche announced this.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look so I have the chance to drive it
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: in in France at the launch and okay, so let's
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: start with the styling. So it definitely looks good in person.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: That's great, except if you get the taxi yellow color
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: they have, which looked pretty awful. The thing is with
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: this McCann, the McCann is fifty percent of Porsche's volume.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: It saved Porsche, so they're.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Going to go and take the car that saved them
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: and the car that accounts for half of their sales,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: and they're killing the internal combustion version. They've increased the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: price significantly, so it now starts at one hundred and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: thirty three plus on roads, and that is before you
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: even add one option to it. Started it under one
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: hundred Previously, the McCann Turbo, which was I think about
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty grand, is now one hundred and
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: ninety plus on roads.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: So it is a huge step up.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: And to me, I think that is their first mistake,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: because you used to have someone who could stretch their
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: budget from let's say Q five to get a McCarn. Yes,
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: they get a Porsche, they get the whole experience.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Everything's great.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: But now that person isn't just going to go, oh, well,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I'll just spend another forty grand.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I don't see how they didn't get that sort of
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: logic step. They will announce more so they're only launching
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: with McCarn four and McCarn Turbo will do an entry
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: level version, but that will probably still be well over
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: one hundred grand. In terms of the design itself. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: thought they were actually doing two versions this coupe sort
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: of looking one and then a standard one. This is
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: the only body style, so they're not actually doing a
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: sort of standard looking one in terms of the way
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: that it drives. So starting off with the interior, it
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: is beautiful. It looks fantastic. This will be built in Germany,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: so it's not like the kN that I drive last
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: which was where was that built in Slovenia. That thing
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: was a bit of a bit of a shit beriaky doors. Yeah,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: it really wasn't very good. So this will be German built.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: That will present volume issues because Germany is doing mccarne
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: v for the world, so it means that immediately I
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: can see this becoming a volume problem for Australia, which
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: is a smaller market.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: So the interior is nice.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of customization options, so there's a lot
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: of stuff that you can pay to customize to make
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: it your own. So they really want to make this
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: quite a style statement.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen you can definitely do the passenger side
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: display yep display, thing's pretty cool. A lot of money
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: for a cool little feature.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've replaced the operating system with Android Automotive OS,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: so it gives them far better building blocks to work off.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: So the skin looks similar to other Porsch products, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: beneath the skin it is a completely different operating system
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: to the last generation mccaun. In terms of the way
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: that it drives, the McCann turbo is now two point
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: four tons. That's heavy, so it is three hundred kilos
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: heavier than a V eight kN It is bloody enormous.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: It handles beautifully, yeah, does it Does it feel rigid
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: or does.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: It feel like a Porsche?
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Feels good, so, steering feel is fantastic, The breaks feel good.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: It does the standard Porsche YV thing with a lot
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: of region handles well. The problem is though, that we
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: drive it on just sort of mountain roads. It's not
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: really the perfect place to be testing this car. The
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: real test will be when we get it back here
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: in Australia and we take it for a bit of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: a more spirited drive and see what it's like on
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: city streets. You can get up to twenty two inches.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: In terms of the wheels, air suspension is available on
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: the four standard on the turbo rewill steering.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I wasn't a huge fan of that standard.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: On the turbo, it sort of just feels a bit
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: funny when you're sort of going a little bit quicker
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: with it. It is monumentally quick. It's like three point
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: three seconds to one hundred or something like that. With
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the McCann turbo as I think it's over a thousand
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: meters of talk like it is. It is an absolute
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: monster of a thing. So they've got the fundamentals right there.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: But to me, where this will fall apart is on price,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: because I just don't think a consumer that was spending
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that much on a mccahn is really going to run
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: and dive into this, and perhaps that's what they're expecting,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: and which is why they've increased the price, knowing they'll
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: get less volume.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Well, they're not going to be able to meet the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: demand anyway. Really, I'm predicting they won't be able to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: meet the demand anyway. Well, I'll tell you why I
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: reckon that. I don't know that there is that much demand.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: So the reason why I say that, whenever we.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Publish a review, I'll know pretty quickly how popular it is,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: and typically a car that sells well will get a
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: lot of views quickly. You could not pay people to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: watch our McCann review and then I thought, that's really weird.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I then had to look globally at all the McCann
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: EV reviews, and some of them had barely any views.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Some of the biggest channels in the world had barely
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: any views. We saw the same thing with the only
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: five M which we'll talk about soon. So that tells
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: me that perhaps the demand they think is there isn't
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: actually there. So the time will come at the end
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: of the year when the cars are here, we'll see
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: how many they sell and how it sells compared to
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the previous generation.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it'll be interesting. If you are wanting a McCann.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: That isn't the EV you have until the end of
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: May to order it because that's when they're closing their
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: order books for custom build vehicles. So if you do
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: want that, you need to get in before then otherwise
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: it's done.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know performance evs. Maybe people are just
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: not ready for them yet. Look at the resale value
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: of the time.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Can't talk about a bargain, absolutely, ty can't.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: So I think that if that's your if that's what's
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: coming for you by buying one of these, maybe you
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: don't care.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe we don't care about resell.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: But to me, if I was buying a regular Portra
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: in the resol was typically pretty good, and now the
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: evs aren't very good.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, did you see this, the Alpha Romeo Milano.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Ugly little turd box. It's what I think of that.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, moving on to a re vibe about it. Did
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you see that to change the name? Oh, because it
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was called junior or something.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: No, it is now junior because it's like champagne. You
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: can't call a bubbly wine champagne unless it is from
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Champagne in France. Same with this, the Italian government, not
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: from Milano. Tallian said, well, because this is made somewhere else.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know where it's made, you can't call it
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: the you can't call it the Milano. So it's now
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: called the Junior or whatever it is called the Manaro Manara.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: It's not from Manaro made. You can't fucking naman Manaro.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Shut up, Donna, we'll talk to you later. Come on, darling,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Alfa Romeo Junior. It's just such a stupid name. Stupid.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Well that suits because I think it looks stupid. But
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: they could have given it anything. They could have told anything.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Look, I think Alpha makes great cars are great looking cars,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: especially the interiors.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: But have you seen this? This is yeah, I'm looking
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: at it right now. Well, well let us know contact
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: at the Drivers Show dot com today you I.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Think I'm in Do you know what I think? I'm
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: easily just impressed today with everything. Usually i'm quite critical. Ah, yeah,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Have a look at this thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: There's bits about it. I don't like that. Those lights
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: look a bit look a bit reno. Oh, I tell
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you what looks great? Like really great. The fore Runner
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is coming back.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, now that I'm excited about. Yes, that is really cool.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: It's really cool and it looks good too. I think
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: we'll get the typical the burksuits of Pokey. I saw
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: some videos coming to Australia. Oh shit, well it hasn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: been announced for Australia.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's a real disappointment.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: They, I mean, were what was that That was a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: sort of a mid nineties car, a real kind of
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: coasty sort of surfers coupled.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think they were called like a Toyota surf they and.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I think they were called a fore Runner as well. Well,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: that was a variant or something like that. It was
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: like a tougher version of the Prato effectively, And yeah,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I think I think they look great.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Yep, I think they look fantastic.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I think what they've what Toyota has been able to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: achieve with this TNGA platform that this is built off,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: is so cool. They've done such a good job with
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: just all these different variants and just giving them a
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: really unique vibe. I love the Toyota lettering on the dashboard.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: They've got RB accessories. Yeah, blood bloody cool, I reckon.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, the front looks the front looks tough
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and now just looks like a proper kind of go
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: anywhere little machine.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I really do hope they bring that that see to me,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that makes more sense like that bringing that out rather
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: than their the ev that they're just planted.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: But we will see, we will see.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, okay, so let's talk about the Naive.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: So what a great car.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, So I had the chance to drive it at
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: Eastern Creek on the track.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: It was incredible fun.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: And just recently I mentioned this before, we've we've launched
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: a new drag racing series and we hired an airport
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: in regional Western Australia and shout out to the locals
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: in Wildcatchum is.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: That the is that the traditional name? I don't think so,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: okay what you mean, but.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: That's how you wouldn't know what But anyway, so yeah,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: we hired an airport there, had all of this emergency
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: services and stuff, and then borrowed a stack of cool
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: cars from from a friend of ours to do drag
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: racing in. And this ironic five N is a beast
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: like we genuinely when we started this series, we thought,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: you know, look, it's probably not going to win, but
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: it'll look cool when it goes up against some of
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: these cars.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And then when it started.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Beating most of these cars, I was like, oh, this is.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Going to look fake, This is gonna look staged like it.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Literally bett cars are worth over a million dollars across
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: the quarter mile, So.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And what is that on road? That's like one hundred
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: and ten thousand dollars plus plus on roads. Yeah, okay, so.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It's a let's call it a one hundred and fifteen.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's one hundred and ten thousand dollars worth of supercar.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: And yeah, and it's not even just that it goes
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: fast in a straight line. When we did our full
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: review of this at Lang Lang Lang. It's actually just
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: some of the features that it has so you can
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: control so much in so you've got everything from traditional
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: engine sounds and it does sound gimmicky, but when you
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: pair the traditional engine sounds with the gear shifting, it
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: just feels like a fast internal combustion car. Like it
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: will literally pulse gears. It will allay to downshift. It
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: does pulses on downshow do you do hear crackles and
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: pops anything, which I loved, which is really cool. You
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: can then adjust talk split. It's got a drift optimizer.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Probably the coolest part though, is the repeatability of the
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: drive train, So you can set it into a drag
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: mode or a just like you on Saturday, or you
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: can set it into a track mode and it will
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: keep the battery temperatures at optimum levels for those two tasks.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: And even with launch control, you can set what kind
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: of grip level you have available and that will then
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: vary how hard it launchers.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: See that's some good tech, do you know what I mean?
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Like for that sort of car, and you know you
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: can really deep dive and put some stuff on it.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: How did you.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Find the drift function work. How did you find the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: effectiveness of it?
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Well, we were given the green light to cook a
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: set of tires, so it was fantastic fun. So I
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: spent hard an afternoon fucking around with that, and it
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: was fantastic. It is when you set it to one
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: hundred percent rear talk split and you switch everything off,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: it is all entirely off, whereas with the EV six
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: GT when you're in drift mode it's not exactly off,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: whereas with this it is entirely off. So the biggest
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: issue they had with that feature was actually limiting the
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: RPM on the motors, because what happens is once an
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: electric motor starts, once you lose traction, it will spin
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: up to twenty thousand rpm immediately and then it will
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: stay doing that and you can have a lot of
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: issues with so just as an example, if you do
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: set it to rewill drive, you get it into a
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: state where the rear tires have lost traction and it's
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: spinning at twenty thousand rpm. When you let out of
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: the throttle, because it's spinning so much, it takes a
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: while for it to slow down, and it could become
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: dangerous in the sense that the only way you could
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: stop the car is by standing on the brakes and
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: standing on them for like three seconds to slow the
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: rear wheels. So what they've done is some talk limiting
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: on the motor when it is in that in that mode,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: so it means that when you do unleash on it,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: well won't just go straight out. So they've done some
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: really clever stuff there that a lot of people don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: know is actually happening in the background. So from that
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: point of view, it's great, great driving position. Unfortunately manual seats,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: and the reason they have that is because the electric
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: seat doesn't sit low enough, so they've gone with a
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: manual seat to have it sitting lower. Steering feels great,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the breaks are fantastic and it's repeatable as well. We
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: managed to get like one lap out of the Mustang
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: MARKEEEGT at the track.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: The what do you mean one lap?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: It just started degrading, derating performance. It was a hot day,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: granted then Model Wide Performance got three laps before the
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: breaks started cooking I think five in it ended up
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: doing seven laps continuous without any heat issues with the motor,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: the brakes or anything.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: So yeah, they've got some fantastic tech in there, and
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: to me, I just think that if you're going to
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: be buying a performance ev, this is the best of
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: the bunch. The issue that they've got now, though, is
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: what Tesla is doing with their pricing. So we mentioned
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: earlier that Tesla's dropping their prices. I mean, if you
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: can get a Model Wide Performance for eighty something grand,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: that's thirty grand cheaper than an Ironic five Inn. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: it's not quite the same in terms of performance, So
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: it's not the same at all.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I think you're looking at two different cars almost to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: be honest, but it's yeah grand.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I drove a Model Y here. God, that thing
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: has some creaks and cracks in it. I forgot, like
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: it'd been a while since I'd driven a Model Y
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I forgot how firm that was? Yes,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: And at the time I was like, maybe it's just
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: my hemorrhoids playing up, but it was it's really I
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: was like, my brother in law bought that for like
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: eighty grand at the time, and I was like, he's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: barely driven it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Barely.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't look at it, but I know he's barely
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: driven this thing. He would have to have under five
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: thousand k's on it, and like the like it was
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: actually doing my head in the creeks and stuff that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I think come from that that roof the fact that
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: that glass roof must heat plastics or something that surrounds
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it and things just kind of snap out of shape.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: And but I was like, oh, nah, yeah, nah, a's
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: your model, while going yeah it's fine, but yeah, same thing.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: It's the suspension is overly for is really uncomfortable, not
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: very nice to drive.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So hopefully they'll fix that.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But that's what I mean, and I think this ionic
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: five in. I think it's they've got the cred to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: put this up with the grates now.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And part of the problem is what I mentioned before,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: the review that we did didn't really go that great,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: and I had to look globally again, none of the
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: reviews went too crazy. And if you have a look
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: at the availability of this car in Australia right now,
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: you can get anything basically for immediate delivery as in
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: any color.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, so available for immediate delivery.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: So I think that tells you that the demand perhaps
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: isn't there despite it being a fantastic car. So let's
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: see how it goes once we get this drag racing
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: series out where we're literally doing everything we've done. The
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: first video that will go live is the ON five
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: n up against a six cylinder which was a nine
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: to eleven GT three, a V eight which was a
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: G sixty three Brabus with a stage one versus a
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: V ten which was a hurricane sto versus a V
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: twelve which was an eight twelve competitory only, and that
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: was the first video. We then did another six videos
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: after that, including one which I'm so excited to see.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: One of the mechanics that was down there helping us.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: He owns an eighteen hundred horsepower HQ that runs on methanol,
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: so he trucked that down on the last.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: We've seen Donald drink some of that stuff. Sure neck
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a bottle cookie, that's a cook one.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Hey.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I had the by d C or Performance slightly different
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: car it has a flirted with.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Before, really enjoyed it, really enjoyed it. I think it's great.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: It's such a it's if you compare that to a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Model three, I personally think it's almost it's pretty much
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: neck and neck. I think I think it's just now
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: apples and like which one do you prefer? Like, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: think looks wise, I think the Seal is a far
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: better looking car. I think stats wise, off the top
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: of my head, I think the Tesla Performance obviously has
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: some you know, quicker it could be slightly quicker.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: This is one hundred in about three point eight seconds.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But the thing with a lot of these performance evs
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: is great in a straight line, but when it comes
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: to handling, they're absolute rubbish. This, on the other hand,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: is not that this handle's great, like it's such a
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: well sort of tuned car. It's just it's it almost
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: feels like it's been tuned for Australian roads.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: It drives great, it's.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Got the performance sort of tucked away there. It's not
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: overly in your face as well. Starling wise, I think
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it looks far better than the Model three. I think
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the interior actually looks better too. If you told me
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: like eighteen months ago the BYD interior. You know, remember
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: when we sat in the Atto three the dumbbells and
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the water and the muscles and all that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're bringing out the Seal you really.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Soon or actually I don't know if I'm allowed to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: say this, but I guess we can call it the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Sea Line six. They're bringing that out, which is the
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: four wheel drive version of this, which I think looks good.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: But I just love this Satan. I love it. It
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: was such a great commuting car too. Yeah, I think they.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Look fantastic performance wise, it's great fun. This is I mean,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: when you do compare this to a Model three performance,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: especially the new one. They've just launched very different cars.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: This won't. This doesn't have repeatable perform mormans. It sort
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: of you hit it once and it's there. On handling front,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I think it's good, but it is let down by
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: some of those electronics. If you really start picking up.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: It sort of just struggles a little bit with the
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: amount of power that it has. But that is all
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: something that they will eventually get better at when it
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: comes to tuning and all that sort of stuff. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: for the price just under seventy grand, it is significantly
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: cheaper than everything else on the market.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: So yeah, do you know the one thing the big
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: thing for me that I was a bit like, oh really,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: but I think I've been told it's a software update.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It's not even a fault. It's actually deliberately there. I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: left my dog in there and went into buttings and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: the fucking thing was like the alarm was going off
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: left front and center. It's apparently you know that function
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: if you leave kids in the car, which is annoying too,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: because I left Pops in the car when I went
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: to the casino for.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Five and he went on holidays.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I left her at the airport only there
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: for four weeks. It was fine, But yeah, they've got
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: this alarm that sort of goes off.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Can that not be there?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Well, a lot of modern cars have the ability for
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: you to switch off the motion sensor insight.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll dig about take a Patty's Market. I'm sure
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: there's someone who can fix it. So some good stuff, some.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Good cars, exciting stuff. So yeah, we're going to have
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: to try and make this more regular.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: It's been quite.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Busy so yeah, I mean I've I've moved house, moved jobs.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You've been out of the job, shockingly homeless for quite somebody,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: which is evident. You disgrace doing hand jobs as well.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You are doing hand jobs. So that's been that's been
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: your life issues, I guess. But I'm here for you
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: if you want to talk. That's what all the good
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: podcasts do now? Is talking about every three months?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Is? But yes, this will get more regular and some.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Exciting stuff on the horizon. You know what, you should
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: check in with Donna. You should give her a call.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Have you a number? You've saved it in your phone?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: That hole in the wall, why don't you Why didn't
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: you put your phone? Allows on speaker phone?
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Let me let me give her a tingle d D
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: D double D Donna. There she is, see if she answers?
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Gee, hang on, Darlan, hang on, Donna's killing Ben hang on. Oh,
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: but don't usually get up till one in the afternoon.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: How are you, Dalan?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Good? How are you doing? Love?
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: You haven't called me angels pabbly have you been?
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Good? I haven't been out that way for a
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: little while. Last time kind of left me a little scarred,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: so to speak.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: You've got a bloody come and visit Donnor in the caravan,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: darl And you've got you remember having it there?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: It's near the Adelaide Glory And if you get.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: A little bit lost, you fucking follow the yellow.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Droupe bro that's will be just in. Have you been
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: has your n f ha's all that? Yeah? Good. I'd
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: love for you to meet my mate Gordy.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Sometimes he's sort of, you know, a bit lonely and
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I listened to the podcast and he sounds surprisingly well high.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: Basic looking at their bloody n ft is the n
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: f T, the Sties.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: You're a girl, have some psy from fun Randed, Donna
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Fight Darlin, Hey, well when he when are you going
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: to come over?
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: The when are you gonna come to the garage? Look
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: a bloody review on Donna Philly Busy this year, I
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: might have to say, Gordy.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: Nah, Darling, I want you perfectly. I want you to
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: bring you to a roma and you can point to
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: my cup holder's head. I can do all sorts of
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: fucking features if I.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: Go off like the bloody Yeah, you're batist dollar.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go. He sounds like
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: you're busy.
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I've got to order him a bloody KOs
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: say you know, I really Boh God Jesus, when you
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: come over and we'll bloody have some k.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: And saying oh fuck. All this talk about a greasy box.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: It reminds me I should have a bloody shell. I
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: want you to get out of Dallan to get up
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: and good good to you from.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Your eye dollar.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: You never ring me as much as you used to.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I've still got the charging station heat the while on me.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: The caravan behind Regel Norman, bloody, kick a can around.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: You come, it's Don and Donna. Bye bye, Oh god,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: it's good to touch base with her. Yeah, look at
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you were pretty quiet during that. I thought you were well.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I thought, well, you have your pants off. You were
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: bloody half mask. He's bloody. All right, it's our pitching
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: a tent talking to Yeah, that's.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: To catch up with her. So you will have to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: catch up with her. I think you need a road trip. Yeah,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: take a radio, take a little road trip out there.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: What do you mean radio rodeo rodeo?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, take the road, take over and put a
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: buck over ahead and hang onto the handles.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: So contact at the Drivers Show dot com today. You
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: if anyone who's actually still listening to this, Yeah, let
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: us know what you want us to delve into chat
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: about on a serious note, bev passed away.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's one of those things. I mean,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: we all we knew it was coming, obviously, and it
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: was the day that I didn't really expect it to
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: be so soon. But yeah, really sad, and.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I speak for both of us.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: She's a fascinating woman, a really kind, caring person, a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: great family woman too, and yeah, really sorely missed.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Came into chat with us, though it was pretty unreal.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: It was a fair hike as well as Yeah, Warren
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: die Way, Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: She came out here, Warren die Way. In fact, like
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the last interview she did. That's
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: that's I feel sorry for her in that respect because
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I thought, well, she could do so much better than us,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and but it was the last interview she did, and
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: she didn't have to do that at all. Her state
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: wasn't tip top, and she made the effort to come
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: out and have a chat, and eternally grateful that she
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: did and that she also got to tell her story too,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: because I think a lot of it is it is
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: about Peter and obviously the time she spent with Peter perfect,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the great Peter Brock. And I think behind
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: all that, though, is a is a fascinating woman and
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a brilliant, brilliant woman in all ways of life. And
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm proud that she got to tell her
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: story in her life story out there, and it's it's
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: sad for her passing and our you know, big love
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: goes out to all her family and ya, thanks for
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: thanks for ending the show on such a somber note.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks for that. That's what you do really well, isn't
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: it just make things awkward? Now we have to Yeah,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to walk out of.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: This room and you'll probably call bloody Donna called Donna again,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: just Peter the saime, Yeah, FaceTime scrite.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: It'll look like they've seen from a butcher's window by
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: an hour with Donna that had some dry hanging stage
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: or are you just happy to see me?
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Well, next time until they started, great, leave a review,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: that would be great, and we'll do another merch drops.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Hold on, before we do, we've got to actually quickly
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: talk about the reviews because someone left one on there
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: that wasn't very complimential. Oh really, I haven't. I haven't
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: checked these out. So again it's it's never negative about me.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: It's always.
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: So.
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: The latest one that we got was okay, so just
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: listen to the latest step. There's a one star one
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: and it was such a struggle to listen to due
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: to Gordy's terrible jokes and even worse takes.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Takes, I'll take somewhat.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I'll be surprised if this show lasts for much longer.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Paul can do better.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look what's that on apples Twitch one two, one, eight,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: and that's Twitch with a one for the eye. That's Twitch.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's what his fucking brain's doing right now,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: because he's probably got some sort of condition.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: But we've got another one from v Steve I one,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: here we go. Just listen to the latest shut up
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: moron between you two. Stop picking on travel long.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: Just listen to the latest episode. And it was such
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: a straggle due to goodies, terrible jokes, and even worse takes.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: I'll be surprised if this is a program that will
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: last much longer. Paul can do way. Bitter Poo is
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: my favorite care review. I love his program. He used
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: the Bitch Show on the YouTube and when I am
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: when I shop here in the home and I, oh, Jesus,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: I fucking put again.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Retally it happened again.
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: Can you clean me up? Taking to get old twitchet,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: get out of Twitch and tell you bitch.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Goodbye. Goodbye,