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🙏 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Eps 6-Reunion · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, darlings. I hope you are enjoying your holiday time.
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  Speaker 2: Those of you who have the time to listen to
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  Speaker 2: our Secret Lives of Mormon Wives series here, thank you
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: so much for joining and welcome in joining me to
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  Speaker 2: continue this and to wrap it up as Emily deresus
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  Speaker 2: Hi Emily.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, Happy holidays. Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, first, I just want to mention thank you for
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  Speaker 2: wearing your Christmas vacation sweater. Your Beverly and d'angela always
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  Speaker 2: makes an appearance this time of year.
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  Speaker 3: Yes she does.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so beautiful, Yes, gorgeous peace, Yes, it's wonderful. Well okay, wow,
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  Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I'm not even doing a welcome in.
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  Speaker 2: I welcomed you in on my own Emily last night. Yes, actually,
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  Speaker 2: I would say all the way from yesterday into the evening,
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  Speaker 2: I watched the rest of all of Secret Lives of
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  Speaker 2: Mormon Wives, which entails what we're doing today, episode six
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  Speaker 2: through the reunion, okay to the very end. So what
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna do is we're gonna focus on like kind
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  Speaker 2: of the reunion and then sort of backtrack and you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to time travel throughout And so I finished
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: it up whilst cleaning out my daughter's whole art area
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  Speaker 2: like craft or van. Yes, you know what I'm talking about,
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  Speaker 2: that monstrosity. Can't wait to show you because I did
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  Speaker 2: a little something where I got like these two little
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  Speaker 2: kurt like curtain rods, and I did a sink skirt,
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  Speaker 2: like a sink skirt, like a little curtain, just a
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  Speaker 2: nice kind of a checkered like a Beaijian white checker.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of farm covered you covered that shit.
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  Speaker 2: Covered that shit up. Can't wait to show you, bib.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: So I was everybody, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Made fun of Christopher Lowell for hanging curtains over everything
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  Speaker 4: back in the early two thousands.
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  Speaker 3: But I love I love it. That is a fun technique.
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  Speaker 2: It is. And the shit I've heard that like drapings
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  Speaker 2: and like fabric and over tables is like a thing now.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like coming back remember in the eighties when
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  Speaker 2: I was like that. Okay, anyway, so I'll send it
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  Speaker 2: to you. But I watched all of the rest of that,
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  Speaker 2: plus Surviving Mormonism with Heather Gay and I'm doing an
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  Speaker 2: episode with the bish Therapist.
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  Speaker 4: What if all this, you're like getting indoctrinated, like you
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  Speaker 4: become Mormon.
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  Speaker 3: Now, even though it's.
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  Speaker 2: Boiler alert, you just ruined it. That was my big
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  Speaker 2: announcement for twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Now, well you can still do it. I'll be surprised
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  Speaker 3: when you announced.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you'll feign surprise.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It is interesting, you know, the reunion. I have to say, like,
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  Speaker 2: I think Stossy did a fine job. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: do too, and she did an excellent job. Great. Now
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a difficult job, and I could tell
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  Speaker 2: there were many times when you know, I think she's
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: got something in her ear and she's having a lean
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  Speaker 2: on that, and she did a great job with like
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: you know, having her head on a swivel. Now what's
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: weird is that? Like it you could notice, boy a boy,
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: how good Andy Cone is because you know, you see
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  Speaker 2: these other reunions and they just they can't.
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  Speaker 3: Get it's a better edit.
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  Speaker 4: In three episodes, Stassy got a shitty edit and one episode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they had enough footage there for at least two and
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  Speaker 4: they should have done that.
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  Speaker 3: What else are you doing, Hulu?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I get two episodes started? Yeah, I mean I agree,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, The other thing is how long are
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  Speaker 2: we going to sit there and talk about something when
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  Speaker 2: they're already filming the next season, which I couldn't up
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: thinking about. But one of the other things that I
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: thought was kind of funny was that they always had
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  Speaker 2: the voiceovers and they made it sound like she's asking
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  Speaker 2: the question, and that did her dirty because it would
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  Speaker 2: be like, Jesse, now seems like a good time to
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  Speaker 2: ask you about how you're feeling about your relationship and
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  Speaker 2: the status with Jordan, And it was not. It was
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  Speaker 2: a voiceover, and I can't did you? It happened so
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  Speaker 2: many times. It was bad. It was bad. I don't
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  Speaker 2: like that's not her fault.
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  Speaker 3: I am sure that there was some queen, but just
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  Speaker 3: goes to.
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  Speaker 2: Show it just goes to show how Andy Cohen and
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: how everything is so like perfect in that world. It's
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  Speaker 2: just like a train that has been running for so
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  Speaker 2: long and makes not just jump into it and it's
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  Speaker 2: just seamless. But I also, you know, want to say, these.
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  Speaker 4: Three seasons, give give her at least three reunions besides
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  Speaker 4: vander pump Villa, give me give her some time.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to say, I think it's great to
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  Speaker 2: acknowledge how amazing Andy Cohen is because I think it's
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  Speaker 2: easy to, you know, forego giving the credit over and
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  Speaker 2: over again. And I really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: No, I agree, I agree. I just like I get
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  Speaker 4: nervous when I'm like, well, who else can do this?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm starting to feel a little bit warmer towards Stossy,
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  Speaker 4: way more than.
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  Speaker 3: Last Mormon Wives with Nick Vile. Yeah and stop.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that she hosted the Villa reunion.
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  Speaker 3: Because nobody watched go on Crazy. No.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny because they're like, oh did you you know?
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  Speaker 2: Did Is this your first reunion? She's like, actually, I'm like,
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: well that was news to everybody on the couches and
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  Speaker 2: on the other side of the screens.
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  Speaker 4: So Taylor's never watched vander pump Rolls. That was also interesting.
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  Speaker 4: She when she's like, I should watch your show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god. That was so funny because yeah, she's
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  Speaker 2: been being compared to like a Stasi, which is not
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  Speaker 2: at all, like there's just there's you couldn't be more wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But I loved how it was like, wow, we are
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  Speaker 2: really old and these Mormon gals just haven't had the
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  Speaker 2: time for it. Because they're so busy making tiktoks and
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: having babies and they're so young. All right, so as
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: we get into this reunion, wow, I mean even just
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  Speaker 2: immediately with Zach and Brett backstage facing off and just
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: name calling and just how immature Brett is is unbelievable
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  Speaker 2: to me. He is so strange. He's actually me he did.
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  Speaker 2: Zach has the most promise out of well, now I
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: say the most promise because I was actually impressed with
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  Speaker 2: the growth in Michayla's husband Jase. I was impressed because
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  Speaker 2: we were disappointed with him last time. But Brett is
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  Speaker 2: truly this manufactured person that is powered by swig misogyny
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  Speaker 2: and inauthentics. You said it, you said it. He just
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  Speaker 2: you know. I did like that they bounced back from
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  Speaker 2: the name calling and that what's his name? Zach sorry that.
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  Speaker 2: Zach was like you know, we we we can't do this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then Brett kind of fell in, was
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  Speaker 2: like trying to be as if he was the bigger man.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, no, you actually didn't start this. Zack's
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  Speaker 2: the one who brought it up to make it cool,
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: and he's like, yeah, I know, I I think we
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  Speaker 2: should Bury this and just kind of move on and
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  Speaker 2: you know, be real men here.
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  Speaker 4: And Brett went for physical stuff with Zach. He kept
• 7:45
  Speaker 4: calling him a little man. Yeah, there's could have said
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  Speaker 4: your fucking jar head, you have square face, square face.
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  Speaker 3: Like he never did that. He never said that.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't go low, you know, right, But I was
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  Speaker 2: just like, who.
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  Speaker 4: Brett, you're really trying. He really bothers you that you
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  Speaker 4: want to go that low.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. We got to see that of him backstage.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. And he's the oldest one in the group,
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and that's what's so funny about it. Okay,
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: the Duncan Sip and tel Bar was killing me. It
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: was absolutely you know, as much as they are their
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  Speaker 2: own franchise and amazing at that. By the way, it's
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: just as interesting the again, the Bravo influence, the watch
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  Speaker 2: it Happens Live at the Bar influence. I mean they
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  Speaker 2: started it all those years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Ben Affleck influence because.
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  Speaker 2: No, I know, but like the actual bar itself, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and having that be like where a guests
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: pop up like Watch What Happens Live. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: mean the biggest obviously the banner there, which is what
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: you're pointing out is that Duncan and the association with
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  Speaker 2: Affleck of course, you know, can't miss that. Yeah, my god.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: When the first guy came out, Chase or something, and
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  Speaker 2: they were like just does It's like, let's see, is
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  Speaker 2: that the Duncan sip and tel bar. It just was
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  Speaker 2: such a weird vibe to have in there at a reunion.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, this is not a late show. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work. And then him coming in and they're all
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  Speaker 2: like great, you know they didn't care at all.
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  Speaker 4: No, And it's also like it's just a reminder like
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  Speaker 4: every time I'm like Taylor is evolving that, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: you should not date anybody, Taylor. She's one of those
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  Speaker 4: people that will sabotage any progress by choosing the worst
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  Speaker 4: person to couple up with, that will just drag her
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  Speaker 4: into the mud.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, the talking Chase by the way. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the end of this whole series, like the last scene
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  Speaker 2: being Taylor and Chase at like this lunch and it's
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: kind of a date or not a date and they're flirting.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is happen? And to see he's sitting
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  Speaker 2: behind her at the reunion he went he walked over
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  Speaker 2: in an apron Did he leave that apron on? I
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: This was a real mind f yeah, especially because like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's going to be the bachelorette.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just like, I don't know what this is.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't like this guy. I don't like what
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  Speaker 4: he said about these women. I don't like that he
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: is a full clout chaser. And I yeah, and I
• 10:30
  Speaker 4: think the only reason he is there at the reunion
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  Speaker 4: is because of their issues with Demi, and it's gone
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  Speaker 4: so hard into like, all right, let's give Chase another chance.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's clear his name after what happened at the
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Halloween party when the cops showed up and didn't know
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: who mom talk was embarrassing. And then of course she
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: is giving him a chance. And yet it seems like
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt
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  Speaker 2: by thinking that she not doing this for the storyline
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: and say, oh, she just has like a bad picker
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  Speaker 2: in general, and then you know, it goes with that,
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: but I wonder if it is for storyline, But it
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter, the bottom line is that they have also
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: have this history of the original you know, thrupples and
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: the swinging, and he's part of that. So to end
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: season three the last episode with him being like, well,
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: we did do some stuff in the shower, you know,
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: we we did, and it sounds like they did do
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: some things. They did at least make out, you know,
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: so they have a history, so to kind of bring
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: that full circle in season three that we're back to
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: the to the original swinging swinging yeah, yeah with swig
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: is like kind of an artsy, the artsiest move I've
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  Speaker 2: seen in a long time, and it was unexpected. And
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, boom, it's over. We're at
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: the reunion, and the timeline of all this is so
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: wild to watch because we know that they had to
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: do this reunion while filming I'm sorry, they had to
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: do season two's reunion while filming season three, and we're
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: doing it again, and we're doing it again. So while
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: we're watching this season four, sorry, while we're watching this
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: season three reunion, they're filming season four and which then
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: you're kind of like you're crossing the streams. And so
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: when Leanne and Dad, what are you crossing? What kind
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: of piss piss streams? Thank you bring it back, baby,
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: bring it.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: Back, because that's when that news is dropping during season
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: four that we got in live time.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's like a lot to do the math. It's
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: a lot, and I you know, I was actually trying
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: to get ahead. Oh you can't get ahead of it, mom,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: talk who we can? You know they're moving fast and furious,
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: but like I was trying to see, like, as of today,
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: December twenty first, twenty twenty five, where are we at.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: You know, we have the Demi and Marciano situation. We
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: know that he is going to sue Demi for the
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: alleged SA accusations that she put out there. We know
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: that Demi has gone on her done an interview to
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  Speaker 2: try to discuss the Thanksgiving Fruity Pebbles TikTok where she
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: involved her two older step boys in that video which
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: everyone's having an issue with and she's like, I didn't
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: really think that through lols. And we have Laila went
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: on an interview, she's talking some stuff about Demi. We
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: have Demi and Brett going on an interview saying that
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Jesse has said that she's she will do anything for fame,
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: and you know it's everyone is out there, right and
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: then they're posting and their TikTok and they're doing great
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: dances too, you know, so it's hard to wrap your
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: head around all this. So it is how are you
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: how you doing? As my acting coach said, how you
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: doing well?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like to the edit of the reunion, it
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: was a little frustrating. I guess to your point, they
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: have to edit because they're going to reveal too much
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: for the next season.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: But like there was that moment where like Zach.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: And Jen were finally about to say talk to Demi
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: and Brett to get to like the like what Jen
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: had seen or didn't see, and Sassy had to be like,
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I think let's just table that and Demi and Jesse
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: let's talk about your friendship fallout.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what, And that's not on Sacy, No, no, no,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: that's on the edit.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Somebody was yelling in her ear. Yeah, cut them off,
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  Speaker 2: get them to stop, and pivot into their friend because
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: we got to get out of this. I mean I
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: really did. I was like, Okay, great question, Jen, Why
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: did you say you saw something happened between Demi and
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Marciano at the villa when in fact nothing did happen,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: And you're saying it actually didn't. Why did you say
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: you saw something? I would like to know that too, Jen.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: I, Uh, yeah, I would too. And I'm also like,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: I'm at the I'm wandering is there.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Because you can't keep at this pace Hulu and Secret
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: Lives and Mormon Wives of Utah. But we know Whitney's
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: moving to New York. Is there going to be a
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: mom talk of New York? Is there going to be
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: a mom talk of Florida?
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Miami? Like is there going to be like then we're
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: then we're in like a housewife Now we're like, that's
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: what I'm thinking of me.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: These gals can't handle season inside a season inside a
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  Speaker 4: season like Grussian dolls, Like we can't.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Wow, my mind is blown right now.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: You know said she wants to start her own That's right,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: that's right in New York.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Oh well, and you know what, I don't know if
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: she's that's just temporarialem but she could stay.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: There, she could.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's what this this, that is what we need.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying like we need that we have a
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: great reunion, but like I'm also like, this is a
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: lot on these gals.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: You don't want anyone do.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: You know what this is like, Emily, So you know
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: how this is like youth programming. Okay, so when you
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: have these Disney shows, okay, they have to shoot twenty
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: four seven, three, six five because these kids are growing up, right.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: So that's why you only have a certain amount of
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: seasons with these great shows that make stars because they're
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: growing up so fast and you can't like that's what
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: they did Home Loan so quickly, and why they do
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: any kind of sequel. They have to crank them out
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: because these kids are going to grow. That's how it
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: is in Utah. These influencers, they got to get them.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: They got to they have to compress it, and they
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: have to manufacture. They've got to get all hands on deck.
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  Speaker 2: They have to like build the it's an assembly line,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: you know. It's Henry Ford at its best, behind reality television.
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  Speaker 2: They have to keep it going until until.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Like you say, break, yeah, this can't. This is not sustainable.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: It's not sustainable. It's not sustainable.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: It's not I mean the vander Pump kids they not
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: you know when they were when that show first, there
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: was no other vander Pump to run all out of it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: But we had enough Housewives franchises, So like the vander
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  Speaker 4: Pump people had a break, like, we need to get these.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Gals a break, and you know what, they didn't they
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: You could have done the same thing with vander Pump.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Remember I always mentioned this so much always happened off
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: season and everyone was like, where's Andy in a camera?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You know, that's like we they are moving at a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: breakneck speed of which we've never seen before. They are
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a light speed. You can't even honestly, Vanderpump couldn't even
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: keep up with this with the amount of drama and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the amount of babies that's going on, like and the
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: amount of dances, you know, you know, to keep it light.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I do love this show because, like you know, when
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: when you're going in and out a drama and then
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you have a transition and they get that music owing,
• 18:28
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  Speaker 2: that nature, and then of course also the incredibly emotional
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  Speaker 2: talks that these ladies had with each other about what
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: they've been through in their lives, and that was profound
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: and so compelling. And before we talk about Demi and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Marciano and the whole thing, when they did their testimony,
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  Speaker 2: when they all finally sat down and like and they
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: each got up there and they said their things glowstick. Yeah, yeah,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I mean I could not believe how I was welling
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  Speaker 2: up with some of them, were you?
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: It stopped with Demi, though I was very moved by everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Including Whitney big time. Yeah, because I just thought, like
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: I was surprised.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I was moved by Whitney because I know she has
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: literally said I stand here on business like your business, right,
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  Speaker 4: So I was like, how how deep can she be?
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I meet here on business? I did, let's be clear,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And I respect that about her.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: So I was surprised that it kind of fell away,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: and I was moved by her, and then Demi everybody,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: and for Demi to go last and be so generic,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: I just was like, man, I'm not a Demi fan.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I'll just say that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I walked away with you know, I
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: think I'm the biggest fans of like Whitney and Taylor.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Those are my two favorites. But I only for like
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the entertainment's sake. But the real heart of this show
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: is Macy and Michayla and Jen. You know Jen a
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: little bit because just because she has such a huge
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: story about what she went through last year, and I'm
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: so happy that we got to see her feeling better,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you know, experiencing life in a different way. Quite frankly,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: there's so much drama we couldn't even spend time on
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: talking to her more about it. And I would have
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: liked to have known more about being on the other
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: side of her pre pre pre natal depression. Sorry, I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen her on the other
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: side of her prenatal depression a little bit more. But
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: that being said, you know, maybe later. Okay, So talking
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: about Demmy, as you were saying in the testimony thing,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: and she was didn't seem authentic or real in those things,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and she's crying and stuff. Whoof this is really really tough.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say that she keeps talking about
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: a trauma. I think that whatever, however she is dealing with,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: whatever she deals with, I am just not locking in with.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Especially she's talking about like she how she was.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Brought up and and she learned to not take up space.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: And I was like, buddy, you take up all the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: space on this show. You wanted Jesse literally off the show,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: so you went because you wanted that space.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Remember she tried to right, Oh yeah, oh, I know
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well and maybe and I think that that's well,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: she didn't speak on that, but if you're going with her,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: what she's saying is because of how what she's experienced,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: she's now like overcompensating for that. So like if she
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: didn't get enough space, that's why she's moving everybody aside,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: because she wants all the space. Right When she dropped
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: later on that when Jesse said at the reunion that
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: she's been doing therapy and she is uncovered that she
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: was raped at the age of nineteen, right, oh my god,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: oh my god. And so as heavy as that is,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: and that's coming off the heels of Mikayla talking about,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: you know, her experience, and then of course she and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Chase and what they're going through and all the work
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that she's doing and what a struggle that is. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: then Jesse coming in and saying she has uncovered this
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: this thing that she didn't realize, and then piggybacking on piggybacking,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: we have Demi stepping in and saying she has never
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: been heard, no ever believed her, and how men have
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: treated her over the years, and she's put up with
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: it and put up with it and finally she's not
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: going to put up with it anymore. That resonates with me.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: I totally get it. I think that that is a
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: very common story with women who have been victimized. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: think that there's something there that needs to be believed.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: I think that there's something that she experienced and felt violated.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Whether it's small or big, we don't know. There's Apparently,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: from what I understand, she asked for the footage from
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Hulu because she said footage exists of this alleged incident
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: where Marciano allegedly did something to cross the boundaries in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: a hallway. She said, it's on film, I know it exists.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Give me the footage. She did a request. They said
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: two things. One, no such footage exists, and also, we
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: can't give it to you. And then that Lisa vander
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Pump and the xecs looked through all the footage and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: didn't find anything that was an issue. Oh that's weird.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Lisa vander Pump says that there's no issue with a.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Guy, right, I know, right, right, right, Well.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Judge, you're honor. I'm like, case closed.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: So I really want to give Demi all the opportunity
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: to say if something happened, I want to believe her, Okay.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And all that said, there's a huge part of me
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: that thinks that like Brett is behind this, that like,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you know, she maybe willingly kissed Marciano if she did,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and then maybe it went a little bit too far,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: that maybe she didn't want Brett found out, and then
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: all of this with communicating with him back and forth.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Brett is like, as she says, she was placating Marciano
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: because she didn't want this essay to be brought up
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: on camera. But part of me things that like Brett
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: didn't want it to be brought up on camera because
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: he didn't want to be to look like a fool
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: because his wife is so unhappy with her with him.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: They're just acting like everything's fine. I guarantee you they
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: will be divorced within a year, even though they're saying everything's,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you know fine. But I think that she was probably
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: like doing what Brett was saying to do.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I think that it's a mess. Yeah. I think it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: weird that Brett was like, let me door dash him.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Let's yeah, I feel bad for door dash.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's the whole thing is very strange
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: to me. And the one thing that we do have
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: kind of a barometer to see like that, I agree,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: like maybe she has just been through it and like
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: the Chase shove, you know, we saw that and yes,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: there was contact made, and how do you want to
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: define shove? Right, She's never been contact made though.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Exact exactly. And his intention was to get at her
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: in a sneaky way, and so that's why in a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: nasty way. Yeah, nasty way. And so that's where it's
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: really difficult for her because she's like it's so small
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that people aren't gonna believe me, unless maybe I make
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: it a little bit bigger or whatever. But regardless, what
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: he did was messed up.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I think the other truth that is happening, The other
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: real thing that I see consistently with Demmy is that
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: she wants to be number one mom talk. She wants
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: to be the leader. She wants everyone to love her,
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: and she will do whatever it takes to do that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: So she when and when it's not happening, she will
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: go to things that she has seen work. Yeah, And
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: so that's where I'm kind of like, I guess, like
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I don't. Yeah, I'm like, I'm kind of if I
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: if I am in mom talk, if I am, like,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think I'm going to go as hard as
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: Whitney is for Demi.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: But I'm also like nervous to be as far away
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: as jen is.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: So like, I don't know where I stand on the
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: one to ten waitning to Jena, right, because I do
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: think there is something going on with Demi as to
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: why she needs to act like this.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is like I would love to
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: talk to bish therapist about this because there are so
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: many things. One she over talks a situation, you know,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I mean that's like red flag number one. You keep
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: talking and explaining yourself and it keeps changing a little
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: bit and a little bit at a time, and then
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: new things kind of come up that weren't there before,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and now you're explaining this a little bit more and
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: a little bit too hard.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is it feels like, well.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Her need to be number one is also a trauma
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: response to something. I get it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm gonna say, we've all probably
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: had something that has motivated crazy reactions that we have lives,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: So like, I get it, and I'm not then having
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: that broadcast around the world and on you know, every
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: form of media. But I'm just also like, as a viewer,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: I'm not moved by Demmy.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not either, like I'm angry, I'm confused, and I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: yea case in point. Yeah, I'm not quite. I'm not
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: to the point of anger, because that's where I'm like,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I feel very concerned about her with the amount of
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: stuff that's piling on her and she is in over
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: her head if in fact, she had a misstep. What
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: she's trying to do is triple double, quadruple down on
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: a misstep and then magically make it true through an
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: explanation in order to just get out on the other side.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And it's too late for her to say or to
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: take back, take back siaes on anything, because it would
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: be a mess. And so when Whitney says at the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: testimony meeting, it doesn't work in every situation. So I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: want to say that for the record, when she gave
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: reference to her husband Jordan, she was like, do I
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: know why Jordan did all these things that he did? No,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I don't understand it. But sometimes we're not going to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: understand the reasons why people did the things that they did,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: and at some point you're going to have to like
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: accept that you're not going to get that from them
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and know that they's somewhat sorry for what is transpired,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and then move on. And in this situation with the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: group and with them being in this working place, I
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: think that's what she was getting at, and I think
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that was a great point. Now also, I think Demi
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: is not clearly coming back. I mean, everything that's happening
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: with lawsuits and with you know, Hulu, I wonder if
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: she's even filming right now.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean doesn't mean she won't be back right,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: that's right.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: She shows up even when she says she's not going
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: to show up.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know how they have a show without Whitney
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: and Demi because Whitney, if she's in New York, she's
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: not filming with everybody, So I don't know when that starts.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: But you know, and then to me, like.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: You know all this like we're not getting along and
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: the blowout on Entertainment Tonight or whatever, I'm like, hey, gals,
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: that's why you know we need tension like that is
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: you know, it can't all be dances.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Well, when they were like at this press tour,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I mean it was wild. They were fucking mess. They
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: like to think about them at that reunion talking about
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: what happened in the last season. I don't know how
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: they can mentally even wrap their heads around it. That
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: would be extremely confusing for me to be work through
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: something that happened a year ago and then forget about
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and not bring up what's happening now. That's nuts. And
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: by the way, when Dakota came out after the Zamboni
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: cleared away all those mom talkers, that was the couch.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: We need the reunion Zamboni. I was like with wesany
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: driving that was weird, Like.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I don't I don't know. He said,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: like I didn't really think that through that it would
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: be that big of a deal. I'm like, bro, yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: you don't think anything is a big deal.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly right. I was like, perfect, that's perfect.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: The tie in is that, you know, in terms of time,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: when this thing happened with the silhouetted Lady, he goes,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that was over two years ago.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: So what I'm hearing is you've had two years to
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: tell Taylor this and you still haven't told Taylor.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: So the realization as Taylor said that the last reunion
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: they were at when he was like crying, that this
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: had happened, and he wasn't even coming through coming forward
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: with any of that that was completely buried. It had
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: already happened. And the acting this is when it became
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: very clear, as if it wasn't already clear. But honestly,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: he has done a phenomenal job with his acting, not
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: this reunion, but the last reunion and subsequent times throughout
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: the series when he cries, he's really good at the performance.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: And Taylor believes it every single time. Obviously, and her
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: parents have too. It's nice to see that he you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: didn't book the gig this time, you know, with his
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: audition on the couch, when Leanne and Dad came out
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and he was like, yeah, I ain't doing nothing with
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: them lies or whatever he said.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I the fact that we're shocked that Taylor's parents are
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: not believing his crocodile tears also still like I'm not
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: on board with her parents, Like they're still like never
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, here we go.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I'm glad they're not believing this. But I give it
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: one season.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: And I give it one star because oh, you give
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: it one season, you think they're gonna be probably yeah, yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: There is a grandson involved, so they'll have that reason.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but they it took them that many times
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: to finally say, oh, you are a douchebag. You know
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: this whole time, Taylor's been trying to scream that for
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: the rooftops, and if they hadn't have been so hard
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: on her to push to try to make this work
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and to give them a chance, they wouldn't be there
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: sitting there across from him. It's really unfortunate. And that
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: is a great point. Yes, yeah, and did you have a.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Moment when when that bombshell dropped where you were like
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Leanne either knows or encouraged this, Like I thought Leanne
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: was maybe in on it, the silhouetted lady, yes, because
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: it's her friend.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: And I was like, I was like, Leanne is not
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: a house so like she either knew.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Her friend was in with Dakota or like had a
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: vibe and was like maybe okay with it because there
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: was some like gray area on the timeline, like I was,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: so get believed.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no she didn't.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: But that's where I am with Leanne.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Oh got it? Of course? Of course? Right, So then
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: what made you think that was it? When she was
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: in the hotel room with her holding a person to
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: share with the sunglasses, Yeah, that was amazing. We needed
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: to see that. You're right that the irony is.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: That there was something on the camera lens in that
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: hotel It looked like sunscreen.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: So the irony is that all of them looked like
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: silhouettes in.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: That hotel room because it was like dark and blurry,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: and when they would show Leanne in the corner.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: She looked like a silhouette. But I just I was
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: glad that she took it very real.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Oh I loved No, I didn't. I don't love watching
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: someone in pain, Obviously that's not what I'm trying to say.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: But I loved seeing her finally get it like it took.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: It took a family of basically almost a family member
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: and some some monkey business with Dakota for them to
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: all realize, including uh, Taylor, And you know what, it
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: makes me think it's probably like the best thing that
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: could have happened if they're able to like stick to
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: this and she can move on. But like, if he
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: didn't come that close to like, she would have continued
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: to probably making excuses where it's like nope, nope, nope,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: not again, not again, nope, nope, But then here we are.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, Okay, someone that was actually next to her
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: in pictures while she was pregnant betrayed her and he,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you know, did this and that, so finally we're gonna
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: say he's a piece. Okay, let's see if we can
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: stick with it, because you know, if it if they
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: can't get through it with this, it's literally gonna have
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: to be Leanne and Dakota where something happens, you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and then I don't know what.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Leanne and Dakota hooking up.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I mean that is where I was like, this is
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the closest Leanne can get to hooking up with Dakota.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: So she's on board with this in some way.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's so true. The phone conversation with the
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: silhouetted lady was wild.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was great. And I don't know her,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: and I could tell she was lying.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: What secret, Taylor, we know about your little secret? What secret?
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I gotta go into my appointment. I'm getting my silhouette redone.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I'm having a silhouette lift today.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's bananas.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: But nanas. By the way, Emily, congratulations, it's the end
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of our ninety day break.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: Oh, I would like to stay separated.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: The way that Jesse was delivering the slams against Jordan
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: whilst saying that she chose to stay with him at
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: this reunion was incredible and it just goes to show
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: next season it's gonna be rough because she's gonna she's
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: gonna give it to him real hard, and he's gonna
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: he's gonna come, he's gonna see the phase of Jesus.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I think next season with.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Something happened because Taylor wouldn't sit next to him when
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: she came out to confront Dakota. She's like, I'm not
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: sitting next to him, Jordan, who She's had his back
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: the whole season.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, and then also like this England thing.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Something happened in England. Oh my god, it's nuts. Well anyway,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: what an incredible season for mom talk And I cannot
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: wait for the next one. I really can't. I'm so
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: all in. So thanks for taking the journey with us,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: you guys.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: And I will say Mom Talkers. Yeah, if you need
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: a break and you don't want all this drama, just
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: go back to what you were doing dancing on TikTok
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: all the drama you need to present all this shit
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: because you're now on a TV show. But if TikTok
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: was working and making you bajillionaires, go back to that.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I know, go back to the dances. He cares, you know,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: give about anything else? Oh god, I love it.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, drama, Darling, this.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Is probably we can't Mom Talk no, which sucks so
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: bad at that dance right now, it's not funny. Tier two,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: you can watch this horrific
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: Bye