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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, October 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguars. Did you do Jack Jack Warris, did you go?
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time? Bryan Sex texted John O sag Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Fire three for the
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  Speaker 1: end zone caught by D. D. West Brook in the
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  Speaker 1: end zone touchdown? Come on, come on? Come on? Okay
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  Speaker 1: Hi hi, hikay Hey yeah, yeah, that's D. D. Westbrook
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  Speaker 1: miked up Sunday at a T and T Stadium in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: You can find the entirety of that segment on Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: at seven thirty Tomorrow night on Fox thirty. Here in Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: Bryant Sexton along with Ashlyn Sullivan for a Tuesday Morning
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  Speaker 1: of Eggs Drive Time. We're glad you're with us. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to cover today, Ashland, A lot to cover,
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  Speaker 1: A very I thought, I don't know what's the right word. Um, transparent,
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  Speaker 1: That's that's not the right word. Profound, um, poignant, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it. Doug Moron was maybe his best yesterday when
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  Speaker 1: things were the most difficult for him and his football team,
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  Speaker 1: coming off of Sunday's epic lost. I mean it was
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  Speaker 1: an epic loss. Was the kind of well, let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: he says, asp eating uh. And it still feels that
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  Speaker 1: way in this building. People are still stinging from what
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  Speaker 1: Sunday was. They're not gonna hang on it too long, um,
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  Speaker 1: but they're not gonna let go of it too quickly. On.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's absolutely what it was. It
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  Speaker 1: was impressed that I I thought how dug rown handle himself.
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  Speaker 1: He came right out stated the problems, didn't sugarcoat anything,
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  Speaker 1: and said, this is what we're gonna do. This is
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  Speaker 1: how we're gonna try to fix it. Well. And you
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of times, guys will I say, guys, coaches,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to the microphone on Monday afternoon. They will
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  Speaker 1: have chewed on it. They will have been mad, they
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  Speaker 1: will have been despond indented times thinking you know what happened?
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  Speaker 1: How do we get this way? Do not work hard enough?
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  Speaker 1: They would have thought through it, and then they'll start
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  Speaker 1: to be defensive. Right, they'll defend their guys. They'll get
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  Speaker 1: defensive of their program. You understand why, right, The pressure,
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  Speaker 1: the money, everything that's involved in this game. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: not Doue and and from his first press conference as
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  Speaker 1: the head coach where it was pretty clear that he
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  Speaker 1: thinks differently than a lot of people, that the things
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  Speaker 1: that are really important to him are maybe different than
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other head coaches in this game. Um,
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  Speaker 1: yesterday I watched it once live and then went back
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  Speaker 1: and watched it twice just to watch his body language
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  Speaker 1: and the posture that he had, and I thought, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that much different than we were standing around were
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  Speaker 1: waiting to get on the airplane or in here yesterday
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  Speaker 1: talking about what are shows were gonna be like? He
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  Speaker 1: was just completely candid yep. And he had the perfect
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to make excuses when asked about the injuries. They
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  Speaker 1: were asked, you know your offense is dealing with so
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  Speaker 1: many injuries. Is that why your team is struggling? And
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  Speaker 1: he said, well, yeah, we have a lot of injuries,
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  Speaker 1: but no, there's bigger problems than that. To the perfect
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to make excuses and say, yeah, we're dealing with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of injuries and stinks and it's not just us.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, right, So I walked into the gym this
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  Speaker 1: morning and the guys that I work out with and say, what,
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  Speaker 1: you know, what happened? He's asking those same questions, and
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  Speaker 1: he obviously has a more focused viewpoint than the people
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  Speaker 1: that I was, we would hope. So yeah, absolutely, And
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  Speaker 1: I kind of walked in with my head down thinking
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  Speaker 1: and here it comes, right, same thing you go to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, public and someone's gonna say, hey, hey, hold
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  Speaker 1: on right. You know he's he can insulate himself from
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  Speaker 1: that to a degree, but at some point he has
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  Speaker 1: to lift his team and his coaching staff in particular,
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  Speaker 1: because you want to. If he's feeling it and the
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  Speaker 1: players are feeling it, the coaches are too, because it's
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  Speaker 1: their job to have their guys ready to make the
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  Speaker 1: right moves to get in the right place on coverage,
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  Speaker 1: especially on defense. I mean, if you're the linebackers coach
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  Speaker 1: or the secondary coach today, I mean you are still
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  Speaker 1: wondering what in the world were they thinking, which is,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, what the players were staying in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room yesterday. Right. Yet you're going into immense detail
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  Speaker 1: this week, breaking down every single player, looking at what
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  Speaker 1: went wrong each play, trying to fix it. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's dive in big things, all right. Big thing one
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  Speaker 1: is deepfense, so we know that they have the talent.
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  Speaker 1: It was the miscommunication in the confusion that we saw
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  Speaker 1: as the issue. Maron says, there's a bigger issue to fix.
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  Speaker 1: At this point. We're ranked thirty second in turnover ratio,
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  Speaker 1: So forget about all the other stuff, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying until we get that right, because if you
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  Speaker 1: don't get that right and you stay where you are,
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  Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. So that's the first thing that
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  Speaker 1: we talked about. So the pressure hasn't been good enough.
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  Speaker 1: The takeaways haven't been there. Uh and the touchdowns we
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  Speaker 1: saw six in the regular season and the one in
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  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in the playoffs should have been eight. Right, but
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  Speaker 1: we saw play that last year was a consistent effort
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  Speaker 1: from this defense and we're not seeing it now. The
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  Speaker 1: interesting part is the pieces are still in place. So
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  Speaker 1: as much as we can talk about the offense, and
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  Speaker 1: we will. You know, what are you gonna do with
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  Speaker 1: left tackle? How are you going to compensate for the
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  Speaker 1: loss of your You know, your big I want a
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  Speaker 1: blocking tight end because he can block. But your steam
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  Speaker 1: route guy, your guy who makes the running game go.
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  Speaker 1: How you gonna compensate for that? Is Leonard back? What
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna do to make the offense more effective.
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  Speaker 1: Um on defense. You know, maybe I'm wrong. I just
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  Speaker 1: expect this week they're gonna play a whole lot better.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can be out there watching and say, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: Dush Sexton. You know you can't play that bad. You know,
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  Speaker 1: two weeks in a row, can you? And you know what,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the numbers. They fell down twenty to
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  Speaker 1: nothing in Kansas City and twenty four and nothing in Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: But they were two completely different games, especially the way
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  Speaker 1: that the defense in the second quarter found a rhythm,
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  Speaker 1: found a system, figured out how to stop the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: They never figured out until the first half was over
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  Speaker 1: how to counter what they were doing. Uh with the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys on staying so completely different games. Sunday was a
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  Speaker 1: brain fart proportions. Whether it was Miles Jack, whether it
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  Speaker 1: was to Shaun Gibson who was in the locker us
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  Speaker 1: today and I wrote this down, Uh never seen nothing
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  Speaker 1: like it, Okay, and and and the rest of that
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  Speaker 1: the quote, you know, his comment was, you know, guys,
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  Speaker 1: frontline guys that we rely on around here who don't
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  Speaker 1: make those kind of mistakes, We're making them all over
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  Speaker 1: the field. Um MC Miles Jack played that poorly. And
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  Speaker 1: he sat lower after the game. Yeah, and we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about how well he's played this entire season. Your bet
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  Speaker 1: A J. Boyer had mistakes, Barry Church had mistakes, Kelvin
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  Speaker 1: Smith had mistakes. You just don't expect it from a
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  Speaker 1: team who beats their chest where the best. Enough, go
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  Speaker 1: back and play. Stop trying to convince yourselves or everyone
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  Speaker 1: else that you're the best. You did it last year
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  Speaker 1: with your play. It's time to shut up and just
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  Speaker 1: do it with your play. You don't need to stand
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  Speaker 1: down there at the podium on Wednesday or Thursday say
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  Speaker 1: we're the best. Don't forget. Hey, everyone's forgot at this
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  Speaker 1: point after seventy points the last two weeks. Just go play.
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  Speaker 1: If the eyes who are here, just go play. And
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  Speaker 1: Clays Campbell said in the locker room afterwards he expected
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what they would do, right to Shaun Gibson
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  Speaker 1: yesterday said too much to his credit, Hey, we keep
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  Speaker 1: talking about being the best, We're not. Where is it? Right?
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  Speaker 1: So enough of this elite, enough of this the best
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  Speaker 1: defense in the league. And Rex Ryan, now, I mean
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  Speaker 1: Rex Ryan is a bit of a clown, right, but
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  Speaker 1: he he knows football. He really knows football, and yesterday
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  Speaker 1: on ESPN he was talking about, hey, this is you know,
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  Speaker 1: this defense is vastly overrated. Okay, so hopefully that sharpens
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  Speaker 1: the edge for this guy. You know this, this group
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  Speaker 1: of guys brings them back to the chip on the
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  Speaker 1: shoulder thing. Stop with the best because you're not right
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  Speaker 1: now and just go play. The guys on the defensive
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball are there. The scheme is there,
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  Speaker 1: The coaching that built them up is the same. Go execute.
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  Speaker 1: If you want my opinion, if you don't already know,
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  Speaker 1: all this talk and all this chest beating and all
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  Speaker 1: this swagger, it means nothing. It means offen. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's to their detriment. I think they you
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  Speaker 1: can expect yourself to play well right. You can talk
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  Speaker 1: the talk and I'm from Missouri to show me stay right.
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  Speaker 1: But if you don't show it, and they haven't the
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  Speaker 1: last two weeks, primarily again I said separate Kandascy because
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  Speaker 1: it's a different game. It was dreadful, dreadful, preposterous for
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  Speaker 1: a team that thinks that has the kind of talent
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  Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. But again, you can
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  Speaker 1: fix it, and I think that they will this week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you go back to Rex Ryan's comments and he's saying
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  Speaker 1: that this defense is overrated, and he has every right
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  Speaker 1: to say that because the past two weeks they've looked
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  Speaker 1: like it. So they're going to be upset. And sorry,
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  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville media is gonna say, oh my gosh, how
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  Speaker 1: could you say that? But when you look at the
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  Speaker 1: past two weeks, how can he not well? And here's
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  Speaker 1: why I'm optimistic this week. But besides the fact that
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  Speaker 1: there is a very very large amount of pride on
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  Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, and from guys who
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  Speaker 1: don't do a lot of the talking right well a
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  Speaker 1: j Boyer buried Church. I mean, these are not talkers.
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  Speaker 1: Even Miles he gets chippy during a game, but he's
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  Speaker 1: not the guy that stands in the locker room. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean these guys I expect them. Plus I mean
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  Speaker 1: Jalen in the in the locker room afterwards was the
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  Speaker 1: first one to say we got our butt speed right um.
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  Speaker 1: And to Shaun, who is a talker to the point
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  Speaker 1: that I wanted to stop talking right uh yesterday said
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  Speaker 1: all the right things. So combine that with the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you have an offensive line that last year against
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  Speaker 1: these Jaguars gave up ten sacks um and he's worse
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  Speaker 1: than than last year's offensive line. Worse. Uh. DeShawn Watson
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  Speaker 1: has been hit sixty six times in six games, eleven
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  Speaker 1: quarterback hits a game on average. Wow, give me, and
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  Speaker 1: he's been sacked twenty five times. This defensive line, playing
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  Speaker 1: with pride, should be able to get in and attack
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  Speaker 1: and bring the defense back to the level of playmaking defense.
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  Speaker 1: Right play. We haven't seen that in weeks. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like years ago that Pai Chriots game, doesn't it The
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  Speaker 1: playmaking thing was they win the game against the Titans
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  Speaker 1: if they don't knock gabbed out and get the penalt right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't seen it. We haven't seen that dominant effort
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, right Uh. But so come on, guys, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is the week. You have the perfect opponent for it,
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  Speaker 1: and I do think they're gonna work really hard on
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  Speaker 1: the miscommunication issues to speak, a lot of meetings, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of player only meetings. This is the week to
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  Speaker 1: fix it. A lot of pride, a lot of prideful guys,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of players. You can fix the defense this week.
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  Speaker 1: You can get this one back to where it belongs
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  Speaker 1: because it is the more yeah, yeah, you're going there.
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  Speaker 1: It's the most talented defense in football when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the guys who are on it right roster breakdown,
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  Speaker 1: position by position. But it's talented, right, But paper and
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  Speaker 1: performance are different things entirely. In order to really say it,
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  Speaker 1: to look into camera and say it, you know, boldly,
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  Speaker 1: they gotta go do it this week right and turn
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  Speaker 1: it around this week. Very church post game, I thought
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  Speaker 1: was great. You know, he said, you can have all
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  Speaker 1: the talent you want on this defense. And they do
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  Speaker 1: have a ton of talent. If they can't play like
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  Speaker 1: one unit and they can't communicate and they don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the other person is doing, it doesn't matter how talented.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, I had no answers, have had
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  Speaker 1: no answers for people who have asked me what happened, right,
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  Speaker 1: because when I've asked people in this building, they're like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, how do we explain that? Right? These
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  Speaker 1: are guys who are doing what they don't ever do.
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  Speaker 1: Make mental error after mental error, no explanation for it.
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  Speaker 1: Expectation is that it's gone this week. The expectation knowing
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  Speaker 1: the players, knowing the coaches expectation is is that next
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  Speaker 1: week we'll be talking about there's the defense, that's an
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  Speaker 1: elite defense. They went and fixed the errors and came
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  Speaker 1: back this week. That's what you hope. We'll say it
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  Speaker 1: for you, guys. Don't have to say it. Play like it.
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  Speaker 1: Play like it all right. Now to the more difficult
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  Speaker 1: side of the ball. Yes, big thing too is offense.
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  Speaker 1: We know do they not have much talent on the
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  Speaker 1: roster as the defense. They have offensive line problems, running
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  Speaker 1: back problems, the quarterback. He didn't play at a high level.
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  Speaker 1: Maron says, there's a certain way to handle this adversity.
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  Speaker 1: The message to the team was, hey, how do you
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  Speaker 1: handle this? Okay, is either going to be our road
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  Speaker 1: to or a map to handle success and future adversity,
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  Speaker 1: or it's gonna be a long ash year and we're
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  Speaker 1: all going to kick ourselves in ass. Well you put
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  Speaker 1: it like that. It's pretty blunt. Again, that's what we
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  Speaker 1: love about him and and they were kicking themselves in
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  Speaker 1: the ass yesterday. They on the plane right home. Uh
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  Speaker 1: you know yesterday in the locker room. They will be today,
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  Speaker 1: which is the player's day off. I imagine we'll see
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  Speaker 1: quite a few of them in here trying to get
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  Speaker 1: that extra work in. Um. Doug also talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the only way to do it is to go work harder.
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  Speaker 1: I've never thought effort was this team's problem. Absolutely never
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  Speaker 1: watched this team actually on the practice field. And granted
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  Speaker 1: we only see the first twenty minutes of practice and
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  Speaker 1: we see warmups and individuals. We don't see team drills
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  Speaker 1: were escorted off the field at that point. So maybe
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  Speaker 1: there are moments, but know when the guys in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room and knowing the pride that they play with,
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  Speaker 1: I've never thought if it was the problem, um, work harder,
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  Speaker 1: work smarter. Maybe work smarter is the way. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where the film room comes in. That's where you communicate
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  Speaker 1: in the film room. Right, Hey, what about this? What
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  Speaker 1: about that guys getting extra work in there, extra time
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  Speaker 1: perhaps with the physical therapy team, extra time with you know, massage,
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  Speaker 1: with whatever it is, whatever it is, work smarter to
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  Speaker 1: get things done. Now to the offense. This is the
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  Speaker 1: troubling part when you think about the fact that we
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  Speaker 1: have not seen the offense that we thought we were
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  Speaker 1: going to see this year. Right, We've talked about it
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  Speaker 1: at nausea, but we'll get it again. The Atlanta game,
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  Speaker 1: eleven different guys and I know it was the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: but eleven different guys touched the ball. That's what we thought.
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  Speaker 1: We would see. Five six receivers, including tight ends, to
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  Speaker 1: three backs. There would be just a there's not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of star power on the offense, but there were
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  Speaker 1: really good, solid players that put in a position, would
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  Speaker 1: be able to play the two back set. It was
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  Speaker 1: gone the minute that Leonard got hurt. Right now, it's
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  Speaker 1: gone because Corey has done for the season and you
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  Speaker 1: don't have that explosive guy. They are down two left tackles,
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  Speaker 1: they are down two tight ends. Now with Niles Paul's injury.
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  Speaker 1: They are down two running backs. Two of those three
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  Speaker 1: are done. Well, I shouldn't say done. We expect to
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  Speaker 1: see Leonard for at back. One is done. One. We
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  Speaker 1: just yeah, can you come and play two weeks in
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  Speaker 1: a row. Can you play two quarters in a row?
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  Speaker 1: Which we haven't seen from him this season? Right, two quarterbacks, party,
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  Speaker 1: two tackles to running backs, two tight ends. They're down
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  Speaker 1: that at this point. So and the offensive line has
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  Speaker 1: had every they're starting guy on the injury report. Every
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  Speaker 1: guy has missed a day of practice a week, and
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  Speaker 1: when you have that, it all adds up. One guy,
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  Speaker 1: two guys might be out on Wednesday, one guy might
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  Speaker 1: be it on Thursday. One guy might not practice Friday.
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  Speaker 1: That adds up. There are a few players in this
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  Speaker 1: league who can not practice on Wednesday and Thursday, the
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  Speaker 1: big days when the most work gets done. I expect
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  Speaker 1: to play their best and with a line where and
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  Speaker 1: you heard coach when he was in here for coffee
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  Speaker 1: with the coach on Friday. That's the unit that has
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  Speaker 1: to work together. That's communication. You if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: those guys working together, and they can be in the
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  Speaker 1: meeting room and get something done, but you've got to
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  Speaker 1: get it done out in the field, right you communicate
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  Speaker 1: on the practice here you're scratching your head. How do
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  Speaker 1: we fix that this week? Because the quarterback hasn't played great? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but he hasn't played as bad as people think he has. No,
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  Speaker 1: he hadn't the time, he hasn't had weapons. We barely
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  Speaker 1: even talked about him against the Cowboys, and that shows
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  Speaker 1: how many other problems were present at that time. The
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  Speaker 1: throw that was intercepted on was also the throw that
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  Speaker 1: he made the touchdown to d D. Westbrook on the
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  Speaker 1: defensive back stepped in and made a play. There wasn't
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  Speaker 1: enough room. It wasn't great throw the best, probably not,
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  Speaker 1: but they were trying to get the same play and
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  Speaker 1: they were down in the ball game, so you kind
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  Speaker 1: of understand that more. There were no turnovers in the
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  Speaker 1: first half when the game was on the line, right,
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  Speaker 1: he was not making those mistakes. Um, he has not
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  Speaker 1: been good the last two weeks. He's capable of being good,
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  Speaker 1: but he needs everyone around him, don't we know. That's
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  Speaker 1: what Blake Bortles is. John and I have talked at
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: nauseum and we've argued for the fact that he's better
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: than a lot of his critics think that he is.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: But he's not good enough to do what Aaron Rodgers
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: did last night, which is carry the team by himself.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: That's not news. That's not him, right, That's not what
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we expect him to be able to do. So here's
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: one more thought. And again, he's got a proven in
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the practice because I ask Jeff log him in this
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: as Doug Moro in this talked to various coaches. Josh
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Walker is a journeyman. Josh as your starting left tackle. Now,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you went and signed Eric Flowers, who was cut from
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: the Giants ninth pick of the draft a few years ago,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: play with Brandon Linder at Miami. You'd really like to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: see him come out this week and have a good
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: week's practice and and really make the coaches think should
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: we put him in? Because he's got to earn it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: You can't just plug him in. He's got to go
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: earn it this week. Can you reach the guy who
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: apparently was unreachable, who the Giants just couldn't quite figure
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: out how to get to him. Can you find a
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: way to get that back, that big body on the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: on the field. Can you find a way to get
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: into play at a level where he can help you?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Because jadeveon clowney, he loves to line up on that side, right,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: and you don't have a s J. And you don't
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: have Cam Robinson over there, oh right, that can be
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a problem. You don't have Andrew Normal who's playing all
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that well, who's a percent healthy? Right, You need to
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: see if you can find a way to work Eric
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Flowers on nothing against Josh Walker. There's lots of guys
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: who find their way into the lineup because of injuries.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: He's not a tackle. He's not a tackle. He's not
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a tackle. So Eric Flowers hopefully this week as a
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: much more impactful week. So to recap, Big thing, wanted,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Big thing too, Big thing. One expect the defense to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: play a whole lot better. They can play better. They've
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: got their horses, they can run the race. Offense, what
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Right? What does for net come back?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And I think that he does this week just just
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: just the feeling getting around the building. Is the expectation
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: is after running yesterday that he should be able to
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: play practice on Wednesday, and then it's how does he
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: feel Thursday, Friday? Right, you get him back? Not to
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: lay it all on him, but we know what a
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: feature back means. Right. And we were talking about the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Atlanta game and John I actually talked about this yesterday
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: on Zone. But's the defense. The opposing defense can't really
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: plan for this offense in Atlanta. The Lemon guys touch
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the ball, how do you plan against it? Now? With
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: t J. Elden, you know he's not the feature back, right,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Jamal Charles now has to become a complimentary back up.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: The keyword with the offense complimentary. There are complimentary players everywhere,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: but if you're going to have that kind of an
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: offense where it's not star laden, then recomplementary player has
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: to complement the other guy together. Absolutely, you've got to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: find a way because this defense coming in has a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: lot of confidence. Now we should note and we will
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: because we're moving to the ex South, So let's just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: go there and I'll note it in there. Big thing
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: three is the a f C. So out the importance
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of this week. We talked about it when we enter
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: in October that this is gonna be the most important
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: game of the month. And that was before Kansas City,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: that was before Dallas, that was before we saw this
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: team breakdown in those losses. So now this week it's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: even more important than we expect it to be. So
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: here's what's on the table this week. Go reclaim your
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: home field. Okay, go play well. Beat the Texans. The
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Texans have won three in a row after starting three
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: coming in a hot team, but their secondary is banged
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: up there down Aaron Colvin and Kevin Johnson. They also
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: had a young rookie who was contributing to nickel Uh
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: and he's done right. So they're relying on their guys
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: up front, who were really you can rely on them,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You can really rely them go get the win. You
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: with the Titans, who gave up eleven zacks. As good
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: as this defense was last year, they never even came
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: close to that against the Titans offensive line never even
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: came close. So the Titans are hurting too. They got
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: shut out at home. They're not going to London where
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they've never played. We all know the advantage if you've
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: ever played there. These Chargers have played there. Okay, So
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: if if you beat the Texans and the Chargers beat
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the Titans, which I expect to happen, the Chargers are
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: staying in Ohio after just kicking the Browns all over
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the field, and then they're heading out there. You're four
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and three and you're in first place by a game
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in the a f C's out there. Doesn't feel better,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: It doesn't erase some of the questions that you have
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: for the offense going in. But if your defense plays
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: well and the offense is effective on Sunday and you
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: win the ball game, everybody gets to take a breath
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and go over to play the Eagles in London. And again,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the Eagles have never played over there. We know the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: advantage that it is seen it, you'll see it this
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: year the second half. First of all, it feels like
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: the opponent last year was the Ravens. They're sleepwalking through
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the first half right because their bodies just haven't had
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: time to adjust, and in the second half they're trying
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to play catch up. So everything can be better. The
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a f C South is still right there. Three and
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: three doesn't feel all that good because it was forty seven.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: If you'd lost two narrow games, if you'd lost one
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and twenty three the last two weeks at three and three,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't feel so desperate. There would be not much panic.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: The desperation is forty seven. That's an outlier. I believe
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that's an outlier. I could be wrong with people. Go
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: well back to back weeks and the turnovers five turnovers
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: in Kansas City. That's a completely different game. If you
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: go back and watch the tape. The defense wasn't the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: defense in Kansas City that it was in Dallas. So
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: we'll see. But the a f C South is there
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and this could be a very big week to me,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: And I said this for Jaguars Weekend when we did
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the round table Sunday in Dallas was not a must
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: win because it's an NFC game, It wasn't a must win.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: This Sunday is absolutely a must win. Now is your
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: season over? Oh so I guess technically not a must win,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: but it's as close to a must win as it
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: can get, all encompassing, right, the feel in the building
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and and you you can't get the field through your screen,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: your computer, your television, whatever, but the field in the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: building is this is a must win. This team needs
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: to You get on that edge, and you think, man,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: this thing could get out of control. It could spiral.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You could see this thing go all of a sudden.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: What if you're three and five coming out of London
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: in the bye week, Well, you don't even know. One
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: would have expected that, right, you don't. You're having that
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: conversation because you have the feeling that the Jaguards are
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: just sliding. Stop it. You gotta stop it here so
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that you get some confidence back in this building. And
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: this is a team that when they're confident, are a
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: very difficult team to beat. They excel when they're confident.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: This locker room needs this win more than ever, but
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: it certainly does Okay, let's take a break. It's a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning Jags Drive Time. Brian and Ashlyn. Jeff Lockhaman
• 22:59
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• 23:01
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• 23:03
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• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, Brian and Ashlyn with you that I ranted
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: rave enough there The first got pretty hot talking about
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the defense. It was do you feel better? It was
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: cathartic here, right, because I just didn't have enough answers
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: and so I sat last night and just kind of
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: pounded out some notes on that and and that was
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: just extemporaneous thought about what it is um and none
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of it is new to them. They're saying the same thing.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: They might not say stop talking because but they're doing it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I might have a feeling Doug is saying something at
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: some point. Well, at some point, you just no matter
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: how proud you are, you just have to back off
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and you realize you can put your head down and work.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And they seem to do that post game. Yeah, Well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: one thing I know is that the right guy is
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: leading this team. He's got the right disposition. Coaches talk
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: all the time. They want to be level right, They
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: don't ever want to go too high or too low.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: So many do up and down, and absolutely it is.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: It's tough. There's so much pressure in this job, in
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: this in this league, so much money involved. It's tough
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: not to go up and down. You know. The media
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: asked the questions, friends, wives, you know, it just it
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: all just starts to build over the course of the week.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But Doug is just eve and keel right. I was
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: really impressed this press conference yesterday. I thought he handled
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: it very well. If you haven't seen it posted on
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: the website, you might want to go back and watch it. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: well it's you know, sometimes there's a lesson in it
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: for everyone, which is I wonder if I would handle
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: myself if I had to stand in front of the
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: media and explain my actions my team's poor performance. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: wonder if I could do it like that. I don't
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: think I could. I'm an emotional guy. I tend to
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: get angry. I would probably be pounding my fist right. Well,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that because I know that to the
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: media's job. But I'd probably try to work a little
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: humor in it, and then I'd a little anger just me,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I know myself. Uh. Doug truly was this and I
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: respected right. And I think the most impressive thing was
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: when asked about the team's poor performance, he always went
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: back to himself. You know, it starts with me. I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to blame. It is my fault. You know, he could
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: have pointed a million fingers. He's not the type of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: guy to do that. But what he's doing with that,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: and I know you recognize this is he's saying I'm
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: blaming myself. You darn well better be blaming yourself. You
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: better be as accepting to his players. You better be
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: as accepting of the blame that's coming your way in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the meeting room, right, and do the same thing I'm
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: doing because to change it. Because I'm not sleeping this week.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not turning the light off in my office this
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: week until i know I've done more to get this
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: on track. You better have the same to fix what
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: you can control, you better have the same approach. And
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I think maybe that was saying, Hey, by the way,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know, tuesday's your day off. I don't have any
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: days off. You might want to get in here, right,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: We don't. He can't say that, but well he's sending
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the message, the message we're working this week, fellas Okay,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: so now is the time when I am quiet and
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Ashlyn Rance rants all right. Ashlyn's analysis this week is
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: we've heard the complaints about this defense on Twitter from
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the fan that there is not enough focus and there
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: is not enough effort. We've heard the word flat but
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the past two weeks with this defense, and I'm here
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to say that that is not it. It's not a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: lack of effort, it's not a lack of focus. It's miscommunication.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: We were watching on the field against Dallas and a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people were confused. There was a lot of
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: people going, I don't know what's going on. It was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: a miscommunication, and we're here to say what Calais Campbell
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: was thinking in the postgame locker room, you know, and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: we know we're kept. This wasn't nue, This wasn't all
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: kind of ball. You know, we went out here and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: we and we we play like somebody else, like the impostors.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You know, this wasn't nice. And at the same time,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you know, we got to wear it because because it
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: is us, you know, that's where we are right now.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And the only way it's called changes for what we
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: put in this week. You saw it in his eyes
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: in the term he used impostors. He knows that that defense.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's not how they play, that's not who they are.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: It's not a lack of talent, it's not a lack
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of effort, it's not flat. It was just straight up
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: confusion against Alice. So you know, as I was standing
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: there listening to him, all I could think of on
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Sunday evening in Dallas was this is what Doug was
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: trying to avoid in the off season. Remember from the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: very first moment that he had his team back here
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: in in April, it was forget about This team is
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: not a continuation of that one that team has done.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: This team comes in, right. He was trying to avoid
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: a place where the defense was, Hey, we're the best
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: because look we showed it last year. Right, we're happy
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and content. He wanted them on the edge. When he
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: said the word impostors, all I could think of is
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: that this defense had played like impostors of the defense
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: that we had come to see and know, and that
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Doug's message to them the entire off season was don't
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: be go and play. You can talk all you want,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: but you've got to go and play. So you were
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: talking about effort, right, There's not a lack of care, right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: What you saw was the frustration of what is going
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: on here? And each guy has to ask themselves independent individually.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Did I do enough? Did I see something wrong there?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Did I not spend enough time in the film room?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Why am I every guy, which again
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: goes back to Doug saying I blame myself. You better
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: blame yourself. Yeah. I got a text from a fan
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: there and they were saying, it looks like they don't
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: even care, like they don't even want to be here.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And you and I were both standing behind the bench.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't get that feeling at all that they didn't
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: want to be there and that they didn't care. They
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: cared a lot. That defense was on white boards trying
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: to figure it out after every single drive. It wasn't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: a lack of effort, it was just they were outmatched. No. Hey, now,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: if you're watching the sidelines closely in the fourth quarter,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: there probably was a little let's get this thing over with, right,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: it was past that, right with the turnovers when the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: game had gotten into the thirties, you know, yeah, okay,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: all right, let's go out. And Doug did come by.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: He walked by to keep fighting, keep fighting. He wanted
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: his team to know that he was paying attention to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: their effort. And it was the effort in that half
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: that mattered, and they did when they got on the field.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: They kept fighting. A guy's like Uni can do who
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just kept the intensity level high. Right, Claius was hurting
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: from that shot that he took to the ribs. Right, Um,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: it was it was, It was unique, and it was
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Barry who were keeping that thing going right? Um effort, No,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: not a problem concerned, No, not a problem focus concentration. Maybe.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know what Todd Wash and his defensive staff
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: are saying to then this week. I just know that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I expect this to be an intense when the players
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: returned tomorrow to the locker room, right, I expect them
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: to be intense, very intense. You stick a microphone in
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: anyone's face, you you might get it bitten off. Taking
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the end of it off Telvin at the podium tomorrow,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I think we'll be pretty cool here. Yeah, Okay, that's it.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: That's all. No more lack of that. Did you pound
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: your fist? I don't think should you have? Maybe? Okay,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: all right, time for agree to disagree? Which is that
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: crazy little segment where and by the way, when I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: typed it out, hey give us a ball prediction, I thought, man,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: now is this gonna is? This? Is this gonna come back?
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Lots of I mean lots of really good stuff. Some
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of it was that incredibly acidic negativity, uh that all
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of you know comes with Twitter. There are times when
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I just don't even go to it. Who But but
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of good stuff too, and I
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: picked a couple that I think I think you're like,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: all right, let's see him. So this is from from
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: sub Dave Scotland and he points out, which we just
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: pointed out, is that when the Titans lose in London,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the Jagson Texans are playing for number one in the
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a f C South. Absolutely agree with that. Now, the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Titans could go and throw that one, but you're still
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: playing for first in the AFC South even if they win, right, Um,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: but the Titans are playing the early game, so we
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: will know. And this I get it. You focus on
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the game that you're playing this week. But if I'm Doug,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, look here's what it is. Titans are
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: playing over there. We beat these guys. Where where we
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: want to be in first place? Maybe you're tied for
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: first place with the Titans, right, that's if you beat
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: the Texans and the Titans when you're still tied for
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: first place, great, that's where you want to be. You
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: want to be neck and neck. Because we knew this
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: race was going to be closed. Oh we thought for
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: a moment there that if the Jaguars beat the Titans
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: in Week three, maybe they might start to get a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: two game lead three games in, maybe they could run
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: away with it. Of course, the injuries changed all of that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: But sub Dave Scotland is absolutely right. We totally agree
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  Speaker 1: with you. The Jags are playing for first place in
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the a f C South, which just doesn't feel that today. No,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like that. And I also think they
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: have to still pay attention to those Titans because of
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the loss. I feel as though that's going to be
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: in the back of their minds this entire season, whether
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: they like it or not. Yeah, the Titans are in
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: their head. They the Titans have been in this team's
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: head since when they were the Oilers and ninety nine
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: in particular, where they beat them three times, including the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: ANC championship game. They're in their heads. It's funny you
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: mentioned that. I remember us Titans. We I think it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: was Tuesday. We were talking about, Man, if you win
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this week, you could just be often running games and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: games ahead. That didn't happen that if everyone, if they
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: maintained some health, they were this roster was really good
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and it was on its way. They haven't maintained health.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Now they're gonna have to fight it through. So all right,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: what's next? Agree to disagree if the Texans win the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: division or I said Texans win the division but Jacks
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: get in as a wild card, make it to the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: a f C Championship Game. At least super Bowl is
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: rams Jags? Um. Texans are hot right now they are.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Jags are not, so you could agree with this one.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I do see the Jags as at least a wild
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: card team. Okay, um, but that an f C championship
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: game stuff. Hey, look, the Jags played in the a
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: f C Championship Game in their second year. We thought
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the back next year, no problem, we know how to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: do it right. Didn't get back till after nine. They
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: didn't get back until. I'm going to disagree with that one.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: At this point, I'm going to disagree with that one
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: until the offense shows the ability to consistently score points.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But I think this defense can keep them around and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: keep in position to be a wild card if they
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: don't win the division, keep them relevant. But after the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: blowout we saw against the Cowboys in Kansas City, anytime
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: I see super Bowl in a question, I have to
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: disagree with it right now until this team proves it
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to me. Point your premium right, now, Jaguars don't have
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: enough equity cash capital to uh to be able to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: say we got the points they covered. They can change it.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You can't be talking about super Bowl right now, then
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: go change. What you talk about is hanging around and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: having a chance. It was the turn in the Doug
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: User to get in the tournament, right that's what they're
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: focusing on. So the Texans, they're the hottest team in
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the division right now. Uh, they come in. They running
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: game isn't very good, but man is they're passing attack
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: with Will Fuller who has incredible speed. And we all
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: know what Jalen Ramsey says about DeAndre Hopkins. If he
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: says something complimentary about him ran right. All right, So
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: we'll agree and disagree on that one, because what's up next.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I agree that we're better than this and the effort
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: over the last two weeks is total crap. No listen,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: nationals analysis. These are professionals and we look like a
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: bunch of amateurs. You want to hammer that one. I disagree,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: pounds fist. Okay, it's not a lack of effort. You've
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: seen it behind the bench. They're trying. This team is trying.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: They want to fix more than anyone, including this fan.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: It's not a lack of effort. Disagree. Okay, we'll let
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you have the last word on that one. Jump in
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: with the next one. I think we have five lucky
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: if we go eight night this year. Well, the way
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the offense is going to take Nate. But again, I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: think they'll be in the hunt with this thing, the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: defense we'll see. I think that I disagree with that one.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think that would be lucky. I think that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: would be hanging on and fighting. Uh, you know, luck
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: we'll see might be injuries. Yeah, luck is a huge
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: part of injuries. But I think healthy might be lucky. Yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I disagree because I do think they get back on
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: track this week. I think they figure it out this week.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Nice one, stimping, get over it. Uh, now this is
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the best one. So this is Moose who shows up
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: at All Access every Monday night. He says, if I
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: could be successful with down syndrome and the Jaguars can
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: be successful, maybe they need a Moose. Pep talk absolutely
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a hud agree. If you haven't made it to Jaguars
• 37:21
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• 37:24
  Speaker 1: on Mondays, you're missing it and we'll have Jeff on
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it just a couple of minutes to talk about, you know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: last night show. But the energy that the players bring
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: with Calais and his guest last night was unique in
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: a go way. Um, it's the football side of it
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is worth going to. But go introduce yourself to the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: mayor of Avondale Moose, and I personally think it would
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: be great to have him too. He's uber fan loyal
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: fans who i'nt tell you what you know. Calais, I'm
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: told was there last night half an hour after the show,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: hanging with Moose, talking with Moose. I bet you Klais
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: could make that one happen. Give him credibility. Yeah, absolutely,
• 37:57
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• 38:01
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• 40:00
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  Speaker 1: a bit to Sunday's game against the Houston Texans, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: so take it away with take a deep breath to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: us day. Here it is. We've mentioned it's a little
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: bit earlier. Rex Ryan isn't holding back when it comes
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: to the Jaguars defense. This defense is so overrated it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: not even funny. Now we talked about it. You know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: he has the right to say that after the passage, Well,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: he has a reputation as a top defensive mind, so
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he knows what he's looking at. At some point, I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: didn't hear what his analysis was, did you. He went
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: on a rant on ESPN talking about how and it's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to the credit of the media. I mean, the media
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: hyped this team up so much over the training camp,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and he was saying, you know, I was, I was
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: victim to it. I did as well. But what they've
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: shown us so far is they're overrated. Okay, yeah, I
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: guess it's fair at this point. It's fair. It's fair.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: But they had chance against Kansas City, uh, and they
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: had a chance against the Cowboys to perhaps win his favor. Um,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: we'll see they're overrated to this point. What they do
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: from now, there's a great This fits perfectly. C. S.
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• 41:06
  Speaker 1: and start over, but you can start where you are
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and change the ending. Right. That's what this team can do.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: They can change the opinion that people have of themselves
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: by the way that they play. And the reason that
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: we're so confident that they can change the opinion is
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: they've got the talent right, and we've seen them do
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it right. They've got the ability to do it. Now
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: will they We'll find out all right. Next one, take
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: a deep breath, Tuesday. This is from a fan. This
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: is Marone. Your job on the line. Continue hoping the
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: good Boardles shows up, and you're gonna be gone, and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be gonna soon play Cody or find someone else,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: but you and a lot of you are going to
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: be gone if you keep putting your hopes on Boardles.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: That was embarrassing on national television. So the focus here
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: is they're saying, if you put it all on boardles,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: take about your coaching job. Okay, So on Sunday in Dallas,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you could you heard the players this is embarrassing. First
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: half right, not they down tend nothing, but when they
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball and Dak Prescott was picking them
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: apart to Cole Beasley, they were saying, this is embarrassing.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So they were embarrassed. To Carlos, however, everyone knows. Everyone
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: knows that if you don't win, you don't keep your job.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Doug knows it. Steve Wilkson Arizona knows it. Will share
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: that one with you in a moment. I guess what
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: he's getting at is play Cody or find someone else.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It's not a Boardle's issue. Winning is the issue. Well,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: if they thought that Cody Kester was a better quarterback,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: they plan and we haven't seen Cody on the field
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: right game time. If you had Julio Jones out on
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: one side, right and Antonio Brown on the other, it okay, fine, right,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you don't. You have a lack of weapons. You have
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: an offensive line that is injured, that is playing with
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a replacement with their third third left tackle you're playing
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: without Leonard for ned Cody o Partny Corey Aunt is gone,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: so was Austin Sepharian Jenkins. Cody Kessler is going to
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: come in and change the dynamic. No, it's not the answer. Hey,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Like we talked about last week, Gary Quaso, everybody loves
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the backup quarterback. Just a slight tad maybe a little
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: hyperbole there from Carlos alright, last one. I take a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: deep breath Tuesday, another fan. The front office should have
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: made more aggressive moves this past off season. Moncri has
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: been collecting free checks. Normal hasn't been worth what we
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: pay him. We took Brian at twenty nine when Lamar
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Jackson was there to take the off season was questionable
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and now it shows. Okay, so let's let's start at
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the back. Lamar Jackson has no impact on the Baltimore
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: regulars right now. None a big name, but we haven't
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: seen much an well. But you know, they went out
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: in the off season. They had a big splash. Everybody
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: loved it because Joe Flacco didn't play well last year.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I guess what Joe Flaco was playing well. Lamar Jackson
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: is watching from the sidelines at this point, So forget
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that one. They took Brian at nine because he was
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the guy. They had four guys from twenty to thirty
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: that they had their eye on right, and all of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: them went. Brian was there. We ad nausea, and we've
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: talked about the fact that this year is it the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: last year probably of this defensive line in its current incarnation.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: You need young players to start replacing some of those
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: high dollar free agents. You gotta handle that. Could you
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: put the tweet back up? I can't. I can't recall
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: what was at the top. We were going from the front.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Oh hey, look, Norwell was a guy that he was
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: injured in camp. He's injured. Now you don't have Leonard
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: for Nett, who we thought would really take advantage of
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: having Norwell. Uh. Mon Creef was not brought in here
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: to be a yard receiver. He was brought in here
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: to be a playmaker opposite of markis Lee, who's gone.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: They made aggressive moves this offseason. They paid Moncreef nine million,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: They paid Marquise Lee nine million, They paid Andrew Norwell
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: thirteen million. Right, they made moves. The moves haven't worked
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: out because of whatever reason, injury or otherwise, and they
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: also made moves for the future. That's tamn Brian for example.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: That's for the future. That's not the success of the season, which,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: by the way, is the job of every general man
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: to have that macro view and to be able to
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: look at the big picture while at the same time
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: seeing the micro view that the coaches have. You're not
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: looking just at this year for sure. All right, let's
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: do some headlines and then we'll get the logs. NFL
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: headline number one kind of talks to that whole coach thing, right. Uh,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: that's Steve Wilkes. He's the head coach in his first
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: season with the Arizona Cardinals. They're one in five and
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: they are struggling. He was asked yesterday in his post
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: game news conference, or maybe it was less less Farrid
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: because they played it. No, they played the Vikings this week,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: so he was asked, I'm just I'm confused moving right. Uh.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: He was asked about his defensive cord and offensive wordy
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: to mc McCoy being fired, and he said, hey, I'm
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: on the block to six games in right, He's fully
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: aware of what this business is all about. He said,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: don't leave me out. Of it. If we don't start winning,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: my job is there. I thought that was a very
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: self aware approach. Not a lot of guys would take it. Uh.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Six games into it, he knows he's not hanging his
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator out to dry. He's taken it all absolutely
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: without a doubt. Okay, next one, we'll give this one. Right. Um,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: here's the defensive coordinator that we all know and many
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of us love, and that's Mike Smith. They're desperate in Tampa. Now,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Mike got he was under under pressure in the off season.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: He was under pressure after Mitchell Trubiski through six touchdowns
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and then they lost their third straight game and it's over. Uh.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: The hard part for Dirk Cutter is that they coached
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: together here. They coached together in Atlanta, They've coached together
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: in Tampa. That couldn't have been an easy move to make.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, change for change stake? Are they going
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: to be better with Mark Duffner as their defensive coordinator?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Love duff too, but you're talking about guy who twice
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: was named the NFL Head Coach of the Year and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: who has run defense successfully. They have more issues than
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Mike Smith. This is throwing the baby out with bathwater,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: so to speak. And if you see them make a
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: dramatic move forward, I would be stunned. It's a message
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to the player, Hey, you better play better. We're trying here.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: We'll do anything. And it's the fans as well. You know,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you can hear fans complaints and they gotta do something.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And finally, last NFL headlined the players are now vociferously
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: calling for the removal of Vanta's birthitt. You see right there,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: he's throwing his elbow into the helmet of Antonio Brown
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: in their game on Sunday. This is a guy who
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: has not played more than thirteen games because of suspension
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: since two thousand and fourteen. I mean, he just he's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: a guy with the reputation, and he's earned the reputation
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you've had a couple of years ago, he took out
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: both Levan Bell and Antonio Brown with cheap shots in
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: their game. In fact, I think in that same game,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Ben Roethlis Chirp Burger took a big shot from him
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: as well. So players are now calling for this one.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: They want him suspended again. Yeah, Vante's birthitt on very
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: thin ice in the National Football League, all right, those
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: are your headlines will take a break. Jeff Loghaman steps
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: in to share some thoughts from watching the film yesterday.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: We'll also get his opinion on J. J. Watt and
• 48:00
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Loghaman joins us um interesting show last nime Calais
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and you had unique people that were there. Tell me
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that the football stuff was great, that they were a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: difficult day, they were willing to share some stuff that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: they were They were great, and I've been there as
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: a player, and when you're when you're answering questions after
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a loss like that where you give up forty, it's
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: it's not very comfortable. And that's just the way it is.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: And it's two weeks in a row where you've given
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: up about four yards a week, and as a defensive player,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you're not very proud of that. And I think that's
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: a a good thing and a bad thing. A bad
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: thing is that you're answering the questions, but but a
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: good thing and that you don't feel good about it.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: And so I think both players are tremendous leaders of
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: this defense, and I think those are two of the
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: main players that need to be kind of beating the
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: drum of improvement because this is kind of an interesting
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: quandary there in because a lot of times when you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: have problems, you kind of point in one direction or
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: one area, and with this I don't think you really do.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I think you point to all areas because as a performance,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you look at that Dallas Cowboys game and there were
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: moments to where the defensive line didn't do enough against
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Good offensive line. Give the Cowboys credit, they're good.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: The linebackers didn't do a good enough job at times
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: because there were some bootlegs that were very successful, and
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: bootlegs linebackers are a big part of that. Linebackers also
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: double coverage under Cole Beasley one of them, and since
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: didn't get done. As I showed last night with Miles Jack,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the secondary not their best performance. To Shaun Gibson on
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a third and long, supposed to be a cutter needs
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to be a cutter, and you could clearly see in
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: a game he was tapping his chest to Jalen Ramsey,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that's me. That's me. And look, I mean when you're
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: if you're six or seven eight Pro bowlers on defense,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing can happen. Guys need to be accountable.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Guys need to make sure that their level of play
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: is good. And so that's why I mentioned to him
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: last night. And I think what has sometimes can happen
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: in a situation like this because the fans are similar
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: in this way, they react instead of respond, and I
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: think there's a difference between the two. The reaction is
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: at the fingerpoint, and when you start finger pointing, when
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: one finger that you have pointed out there's gonna be
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: two or three of them pointing back at you. So
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: you have to make sure that your yard is clean
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and take care of your business first. And I think
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: every player on that defense needs to worry about their
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: yard first, and then after that raised the other guys
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: up around them instead of pointing at them or accusing
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: them of not holding up their end of the yeast.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: He we thought, Doug did I is he was talking
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: about me? Me, me, I've got to do it. I've
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: got to own it. I've got to get my team
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: and my coaching staff to play at a higher level.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: It's on me. I thought. What he was saying is
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: everybody better have that approach well, and the way he
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: says that because you want a coach to use the
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: word we more than he says me or I sure,
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: But in this instance, that's where it's got to start first.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: As me and I I can't recall this defense since
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: some since they were put together last year, struggling as
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: much as they did upfront, and I get it, the
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Cowboys are really good, but we talked that they weren't
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: playing at that same level. It all to me started
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: up front and you were talking about mistakes, more could
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: have been done? Who and how look at it? Look
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: at what you see? Well, if you want to talking
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: about specifically about the guys up front, I thought in
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Gow had a very good game. Let me say that
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: for him. I mean regardless of the two sacks, because
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: there was two other instances where he could have had
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: sex wanted me. Tackled Dak Prescott for a game of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: like a foot and he just missed the sack on that,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and he had two others that he had an opportunity on.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: So and he's going against Tyron Smith, who is all
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: world and has the body to play huge. L Collins
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: the right tackle, who and Gockway get snaps against him
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: to He's a really good football player. He's not a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl Calibal player, but he's a notch below that.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I expected more out of the interior guys. I expected
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: more out of Klaius and I thought that was Klaius is.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was his weakest game,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: but he's he's come or we've seen him play at
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a level that's so high that you expect him to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: continue to play at a level that's so high. And
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: when he doesn't you're like, what's wrong? You know? So,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: and he wasn't there against the Cowboys. Marcel Darius I thought,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: how solid game, but his pass rush needs to be
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: more impactful, and I think that's kind of been a
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: common theme with him throughout. Lake Jackson I thought was
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: solid at times, could have been better at times against
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: a rookie guard when he was given the opportunity. Uh
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: uh So overall, not bad, but could have been so
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: much better, right, you know, because the challenge was high
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: against that offensive line, but the linebackers, the secondary members
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: um not great because when you start having coverage breakdowns
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: or little mistakes in the secondary and coverage. This is
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: not a a very complex defense. So what you have
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to do is you have to master the simplified version
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: of your defense, which is what they do. They don't
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: do a lot of crazy things like the Browns do
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: with pressures and all that. So what you do, you
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: gotta do good and you gotta be clean. How, looking
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: at the defense as a whole, how do you fix
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: that this week? Because this is now a huge week
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: for let me say this, Actually, the defense is fixable.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that side of the ball. I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: mean because I think that, look, that's a prideful group.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: They know what they're capable of. And I think Kansas
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: City was a moment for them. They were like, oh,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: that's not us. And because down twenty and nothing, you
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: still had the talk going on the field and you're like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: stop trash talking when you're down by twenty points. And
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I think even after the game you heard some commentary
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: from from the defensive players that we played Okay, wasn't
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: that bad? You know? Well the Cowboys game was different. Okay,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: because that made you wake up a little slap of reality.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: You were you were bad and there's no hiding that.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: And you heard Clay say many times in this postgame interview,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: we need to wear it. The offense is what I'm
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: concerned about. And can they get better because numerous personnel
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: changes with an offense that you know is going to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: struggle anyway, how do you get better there? That's a
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: tough one. What do they do well enough right now?
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, because here's the thing. If if they do
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: something well, you can see it, right Ashlan, Do you
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: see anything that they're doing well right now? That's a problem.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: And that's a big problem because you hang your hat
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: on something that you do well. When you struggle, you
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: go back to the basics, the foundation of your principles.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Last year, what do they do well? They ran the
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: ball well? Are they running the ball well this year
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: they're not? Are they throwing the ball well this year
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: they're not. That that's that's the biggest concern. That's the question,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: or that's the area that you go Is it fixable.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, And that's a concern.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: And we've talked so much about the offense in that
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: game against Atlanta with the two backs set, and you
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: know all the receivers that were involved and all these
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: complimentary pieces that worked hand in hand, and you have
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: been able to see the two back set since Leonard
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: went down. Corey has now gone for the seasons, and
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Jenkins talk about the tight end and how impactful that is.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: It's I thought it was a bigger injury than it
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: got credit for. People were more talking about Corey than
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: they were a s J last week. Well, and Corey
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: just because he touches the ball and he's exciting, he's fast,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: but but Austin Seferian Jenkins is he's a mainstay, he's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: a pillar he's a blocking tight end. He's also number
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: one target in the red zone when he was on
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the field. He's a big body. Was he playing at
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a high level when he was out there? No, that's
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: why he ended up going on injury reserve and he's
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: gonna go get this core injury fixed. So is he
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: a lost? Yeah, he's a lost because he's an every
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: downs player, Corey Grants kind of a specialty player. Can
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: you but can you replace either one of them? That's no,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: you can't. I mean that's the NFL. And I know
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: as much as coaches and players like to say next
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: man up, it's a great way to say it, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the reality is the next man up is not as
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: good as the guy that just went down. Thought on
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: for net, it sounds as if there's optimism that he's
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: going to play this week, He's gonna practice on Wednesday.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: It sounds like what can he do, especially with the
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: offensive line that's all banged up. Great question and if
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: if there was something that they needed, that would be it.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Leonard Fournete. I'm just saying, spark
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: somebody to believe in to go back to what was
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: your foundation, which is running the football. But but my
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: concern is when Leonard Fournette gets back, what version of
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Leonard fournee are we getting? And I'm gonna refer back
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to last year. Are we gonna get the Leonard Fournette
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: that was post injury that was about three point six
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: yards to carry or you're gonna get the one that
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: was pre injury that was averaging over four yards to carry.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: And even if you get the best version, are you
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: getting an elite back? No, you're not. You're getting an
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: average back because right now that's what the number show.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Leonard four Nette is an average back. So you hope
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that you can get an average back, and then you
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: wish and dream that you can get an elite back.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: But right now I think you settled for an average
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: back because right now that's what he's shown to me.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I go back to again that Atlanta game. Remember that
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: run the touchdown right about twenty one yards where he
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: fed right off the hip and cut it back on
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Austin Severian Jenkins, and I thought, that's gonna be a
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: great combo. They haven't had it and it's just not
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: been there for no. And now you got t J
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: who left the game in Dallas and didn't return, and
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: nothing was really mentioned about any kind of an injury,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: but you know that he's ha had an makele and
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: it's been alien. So now you're you're hoping a guy
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: comes back from injury, and then you're hoping that a
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: guy that's been playing can get better while playing. That's
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: not easy to do. And then I was asked last week,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you were two. What can Jamal Charles bring
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to the table. Here's the reality. He was on the
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: street and he's thirty what years old? Years? Yeah, you
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: hope of play here or there, but he wasn't hard
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: to key on what he was gonna do when he
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: was in there. We're gonna get him the ball. And
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, which is probably in a similar boat, same age, ballpark,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: same number of miles on the car, so to speak.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: And Adrian Peterson is still doing it very well for
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: the Redskins. But he's also a guy that came back
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: from an a c O in like six months and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: then let the league in rushing. And he's a freak superhuman,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: And so is Jamal Charles a freak? No, because if
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: if he was, then he would have showed a lot
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: of a lot more than what he did in Denver
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: last year. I have had a quick thought on the Texans.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Uh will their defense right with that has some holes
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: in the secondary because of injury? Uh can this offense
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: They're gonna struggle. They're gonna struggle. I'm gonna tell you
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: right now, Brian, They're gonna struggle. Jed Watt is back.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Is he back to his defensive m v P form? No,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: but he's got seven sacks and that ought to tell
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: you that he's back to playing pretty good. And even
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: though Jaaming Clowney has only two and a half sexs,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: he's probably one of the top five most disruptive players
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League right now watching him because
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: I've there have been all these common opponents with the Jaguars,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: obviously they're playing similar schedules, so I've I've gotten to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: see him like four games on film this year, and
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: he is incredible, I mean incredible. The scary thing is
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: is that with that defense with J. J. Watt and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless, Jenavian Clowney and Bernardrick McKinney. Ardrick McKinney is fantastic.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: They line them up at different places every different play.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: And that's the scary thing. Where are they gonna line up?
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: What are they gonna do? You don't know. They they're
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: so creative with their personnel because they have flexibility with
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: those guys. They might line J. J. Watt up and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: have him rushing over Parnell and then the next three
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: plays he could be across the offensive line for the Jaguars,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: somebody different every time, and Jendavian Clowney lines up is
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: what it's called a jack. Jack is a three or
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: four term for the right outside linebacker. Okay, so well,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the next play he might
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: line up as am my inside linebacker and he's gonna blitz,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: or that he's gonna look around on the outside on
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: the pass rush. Or he can line up as a will,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: or he could line up as a Sam, or he
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: can line up with his hand in the ground as
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: a defensive end. I mean, that's the scary thing. Where
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: do they line them up? And so you see so
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: many times in on film to where the opponent offensive line,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: the center is going and their guards are going. But
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing all these hand signals that people
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: can't see it that they're trying to figure out what
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: the hell are they lining up in right? And how
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: do we call this and how do we declare the mic?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Who's the mic? I don't know who's the mic, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's where it becomes difficult. They can create confusion
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: and they're always on point. They're not confused when they
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: line up differently. So this is a perfect week for
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the defense to come back and play. This is a
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: great challenge because and I brought this up to you Nike,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: and and got way and Clay's campbell last night. The
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: challenge this week is to be better than the Texans
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: defense because statistically you may be ranked higher in yards
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: per game and maybe even points per game then the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans. But that Texans defense is really good and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: they come in hot. They won three in a row.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: That's a big difference. Thanks for time, it's always on Tuesday.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. We'll sign off and be back tomorrow with
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: John Osier. Thanks for joining us on Jacks Drive Time.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Have a great day, everybody,