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Patriots Unfiltered 4/21: NFL Draft Preview, Which Draft Receivers Fit Best with Mac Jones, What Can DeVante Parker Bring to New England's Offense · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: to the show, Tomara Brown, is here. And for those
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  Speaker 1: you last season, but now you're gonna be a regular
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  Speaker 1: participant of the show. Tomara. Yeah, I'm really excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm yeah, um so um. We're gonna get to know
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  Speaker 1: know you have a just talk about tech yeah, oh yeah, anything.
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  Speaker 1: Virginia Tech college football was yes, yes, tamarras a VT
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  Speaker 1: grad right, yes, yeah, a Hookey grad. But you've worked
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  Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, You've worked at the University of Miami,
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  Speaker 1: so you've been around. I wear many hats. Some days
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  Speaker 1: I'll say go Irish, some days I will say go Hookey's.
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  Speaker 1: Other days, maybe Cocaines. We'll see do you ever say
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  Speaker 1: go Patriots? Now? We're all now? Yes, all right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: so we the gang's all here, Matt's in the booth um.
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  Speaker 1: So what's going on? What do we got going on?
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  Speaker 1: Your guy wants to so okay, So everybody was talking
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  Speaker 1: about Deebo Samuel yesterday. He wants out of the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine ers. He's asked to be traded. Here's my problem.
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  Speaker 1: I've said that I think he's probably the best football
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  Speaker 1: player in the NFL right now. But if the rumor
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  Speaker 1: is true that the reason he wants to be traded
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  Speaker 1: is he doesn't like the way he was used. He
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  Speaker 1: wants to be strictly a wide receiver. I got a
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  Speaker 1: problem with that because that's what made me fall in
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  Speaker 1: love with him. It's his versatility, and that's probably what
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  Speaker 1: they would fall in love with. Two. Right, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: move you all around him. How about I just stay
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  Speaker 1: outside at wide receiver the whole game? And yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: not what made you then? All pro play? I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want him to be my running back, but
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  Speaker 1: I want him to be. Okay, if I say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: line up in the backfield on this play. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't want a problem if that that happens. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: think I think he wants just not to be like
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  Speaker 1: in the backfield, like if it was like fifteen percent,
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  Speaker 1: I think he could do that. Okay, all right, are
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  Speaker 1: you speaking for him? Because I can't speak for him
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  Speaker 1: because according to his Twitter, he said, nobody knows the
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  Speaker 1: real story except for him and his agent. Well, if
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  Speaker 1: that's the case, then I'm okay. I'm okay. But if
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  Speaker 1: he's gonna demand I'm just a wide receiver, then kind of,
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  Speaker 1: you know, some of the shine comes off of him.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I promised myself I've been away and I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to come back in hot, because come on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm often accused of coming in hot. You will. So
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  Speaker 1: I want to try to say, you guys, tell me
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  Speaker 1: that you wouldn't be interested in Deebo Samuel strictly as
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  Speaker 1: a wide receiver money. But he would. But but because
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  Speaker 1: I would, okay, at how much money? Because he wants
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  Speaker 1: he wants at least twenty five million. But that's the going, right,
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  Speaker 1: He's a tremendous that's right. Fact that he is a
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  Speaker 1: running back too, doesn't you know? That's not why I
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  Speaker 1: want him. Yeah, Like I want him because he's a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous player with the ball in his hands. Right, if
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to hand it to him, I could
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  Speaker 1: throw it to him, but I want I want to
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  Speaker 1: be able to choose that, and I just don't want
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  Speaker 1: someone coming in with those kind of demands like this
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  Speaker 1: is all I want to be. Well, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: totally get it from his perspective, like if he continues
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  Speaker 1: to play seasons like he did last year, he's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna last. He's not gonna last. No, I agree with that,
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  Speaker 1: and he knows that. Yeah, and then he sees the
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  Speaker 1: salaries where they're going for wide receivers, of which I
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  Speaker 1: think he is in that category. Yeah. Yeah, he's a
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  Speaker 1: young guy who's working his way into that group with
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  Speaker 1: with some of those special players. Now, maybe he's not
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  Speaker 1: Davante Adams, maybe he's not Stefan Diggs, but he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to hold his head in shame around those guys.
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  Speaker 1: He's a really really good player. Are we being like
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  Speaker 1: just completely naive even thinking that he could come here?
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  Speaker 1: And I never gave that a second of thoughts, Or
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  Speaker 1: I'm not being naive. He's not coming here, Yeah, anytime
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  Speaker 1: a great player like this becomes available. You do the dance,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a fair amount of people on social media
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  Speaker 1: that would literally trade the whole time, the whole team,
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  Speaker 1: just to get him. Well, you know, he's not realistic.
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  Speaker 1: Here's how you always have these conversations, where so, should
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  Speaker 1: we blow the whole team up and everything for this
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  Speaker 1: one guy? They're not. Here's how, here's how we'll know
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  Speaker 1: for sure whether or not it's a possibility. Has Matthew
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  Speaker 1: jude On tweeted at him? Oh yeah, yeah, he's done.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't the only person that tweeted at him. Brown
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  Speaker 1: Brown has been like two minutes. Yeah, it's a group.
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  Speaker 1: It's been pretty good this week. It may not be part.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a new thing around the league with players
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  Speaker 1: recruiting or is it just it's just just the Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: just the Patriots. The teams don't have to do that. Well.
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  Speaker 1: But but that's a good question that kind of leads
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  Speaker 1: into it. Okay, so you don't think the Patriots would
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  Speaker 1: be willing to give up what it's going to take
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  Speaker 1: to get him, Well, any team like it's huge. I
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  Speaker 1: take it has anything to do with the compensation. I
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  Speaker 1: think it has to do with a salary they ain't
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  Speaker 1: paying them. Well, I think it's both minute. The Dolphins
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  Speaker 1: just shelled out thirty million a year for Hill, The
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  Speaker 1: Raiders just shelled out twenty eight and a half for Adams.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yes, a team certainly would be interested in
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  Speaker 1: that and would probably pay for and they gave and
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  Speaker 1: they gave up a bunch of draft picks as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so somebody it's two first round. It's already happened twice
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  Speaker 1: this offseason. Yeah, and what is like I'm hearing also
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  Speaker 1: that like the thing that disrupted everything was this Christian
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  Speaker 1: Kirk contright, it's always fault like that was we weren't
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  Speaker 1: in a bay where receivers anything Kirk. Yeah, so that
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  Speaker 1: disrupted everything. Well, what if he's getting it right? Exacerbated
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  Speaker 1: every receiver said he's average at best, and he got
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  Speaker 1: that right. So I'm going to get more and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of guys have gotten more, so my my Chian.
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  Speaker 1: But I said, Paul, you weren't on the show Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: But what I said is, listen, if it's true that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to have all this money next year,
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  Speaker 1: then use your draft picks in the future, pay send
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  Speaker 1: whatever it takes to the forty nine ers to get him,
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  Speaker 1: and then next year use your money and filling the
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  Speaker 1: team through free agency. You know, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: I personally will go after him because then it takes
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  Speaker 1: the pressure off trying to get a Jamison Williams at
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  Speaker 1: twenty one in the draft next week. Um So I
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  Speaker 1: would go after Deebo Samuel now and then hopefully be
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  Speaker 1: able to use that pick on a guy like Nikobe
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  Speaker 1: Deane if he's still available. I like Nicobe Deane. I've
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  Speaker 1: started to look at linebackers. I mean, I think you're
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  Speaker 1: I like the guy from Wyoming too, Muma, Yeah he's
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  Speaker 1: not that yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Or you could go
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  Speaker 1: with Walker favorite it's also good. He's good. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: can't figure out which one I like better, Dean or
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  Speaker 1: quite Walker. But I like Dean. I like Dean. He
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  Speaker 1: seems super smart. Mechanical engineering major, so, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's really smart. So and his mom loves Bill Belichick. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think, as he put it, she loves her some
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  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick like, not so much the Patriots. She just
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  Speaker 1: likes Bill Belichick. I don't We're not to confuse her
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  Speaker 1: with Justin Bieber's mom. Because she doesn't love everyone. Just
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  Speaker 1: remember that what about all that's what about a deep dive?
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  Speaker 1: That's about Katie's mom was on the sideline at the
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  Speaker 1: Celtics game yesterday given it to the ref. Yeah that
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  Speaker 1: was awesome. That awesome. Yeah, I watched basketball yesterday. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited to talk about it. I was on the plane.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I had I'm like, I have a
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  Speaker 1: three point line. Now. The games changed a lot since
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  Speaker 1: I watched. Watched the game, probably the first watch the
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  Speaker 1: basketball game in forever. But I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, your captive audience, you're on a plane, You're like,
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  Speaker 1: two great we two great playoff games. The Celtics Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Durant and allow the Pagrits to slap the ball out
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  Speaker 1: of his hands. He credits the Patriots with the Celtics. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like that's the only the only thing in the back
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  Speaker 1: of I think the Celtics are probably pretty close to
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  Speaker 1: being home free here. But the one thing that worries
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  Speaker 1: me is the Nets have played two awful games. They
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  Speaker 1: have two superstars, and Durant played awful in both games,
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  Speaker 1: and Kyrie was a no show in one of them.
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  Speaker 1: He played great in Game one. So Paul, everyone saying
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  Speaker 1: some point that away or did the Celtics deserve to win?
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  Speaker 1: I think they just the Celtics deserve to win both games.
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  Speaker 1: They're in their heads, they out hustling them, they played
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  Speaker 1: better down the stretch of both games. They deserve to
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  Speaker 1: win both games. But my point is the Nets played
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  Speaker 1: awful in both game games and had a chance to
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  Speaker 1: win both on the road in an unbelievably raucous environment.
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  Speaker 1: That garden's been rocked in these two games. It's cool.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm still a little worried, but I
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  Speaker 1: think the Celtics are gonna be. I mean, I'm new
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  Speaker 1: to this basketball analysis, but I thought then that started
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  Speaker 1: out pretty well like yesterday, Like it was, they were
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  Speaker 1: on fire and like they're hitting everything. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: were getting turnovers early, and then the Celtics just hung
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  Speaker 1: in there, kept fighting there. But until Durant becomes Durant,
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  Speaker 1: they're not gonna be They're not gonna win the series. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and you know he's going four for nineteen, which one
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  Speaker 1: was he is? He good? All right? Fact before we
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  Speaker 1: get yelled at to help it. When Boston has two
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  Speaker 1: teams that are going to be in the postseason happening
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  Speaker 1: right now, Patriots and the Celtics and all the Bruins. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, that's just kidding. You know. What I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking though, just to bring it back to Patriots, was, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody's really hard on the sports teams here,
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  Speaker 1: but you see the environment at that Celtics game of
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  Speaker 1: just how much people love sports here. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what's cool about this city. Like they're hard, they're
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  Speaker 1: hard on them, Like I mean, I only usually see
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  Speaker 1: the Celtics through like a Felger and mass like side
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  Speaker 1: side fire, Like I'm listening to the Celtics, so well,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying earlier in the season, I would, you know,
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  Speaker 1: catch the only narrative I knew of the Celtics was
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  Speaker 1: what Felger and Masks kind of told me. So I
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  Speaker 1: would just be, what are they all? Right? That's where
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  Speaker 1: it's at. I would kind of listen to that and
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  Speaker 1: then you see what team is. But it's just they're
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  Speaker 1: hard on them, but people love sports here, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what's cool. In the playoff atmosphere, you can
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  Speaker 1: see what the atmospheres like here and how passionate people
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  Speaker 1: are for as hard as they are on them they
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  Speaker 1: get I'm gonna push back a little bit on that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they love sports as long as they're winning, except for
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox they seem to have, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: were endearing during that eighty six year drought. But we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what happens if the Patriots you know, don't get
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  Speaker 1: back to you know, annual playoff contention. I I I
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  Speaker 1: think that Boston fans have other things and they kind
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  Speaker 1: of dropped their teams when they're not doing well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well that sounds that sounds like LA teams. Well yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well LA they don't have They don't care until then
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  Speaker 1: they care, and then they don't care. Yeah, it's so
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  Speaker 1: we'll see it with the Patriots. We'll see. I Fred,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're really not giving credit much to England fans.
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  Speaker 1: I think much better pretty much pretty much anyway, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well you Parker said today in his press conference he
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be traded here obviously for the organization. But
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: the fans, they're die hard fans. They come to every
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  Speaker 1: single game, and so they do now. But like I
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  Speaker 1: remember when Larry Burr was playing, that place was sold
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  Speaker 1: out every game. And then after that, let you know,
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  Speaker 1: Len Bias died and all that, and you know you
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  Speaker 1: could you could, you know, go for free to those
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  Speaker 1: games television ratings, but you're you're making a connection between
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  Speaker 1: the end of the Bird era and then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden it just collapsed. No, that took twenty years
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  Speaker 1: of in comp putence to collapse. Well, it was the
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  Speaker 1: steady collapse because through the nineties, you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: when Reggie died, they were still a perennial playoff team,
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  Speaker 1: in a deep playoff team at times, and they still
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  Speaker 1: had rabid followings. Then mL card came in, they would
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  Speaker 1: championship driven and they fell off, and then Rick Patino
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  Speaker 1: was a complete disaster and it fell off and no
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  Speaker 1: one went. But then they resurrected in the early two thousands.
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  Speaker 1: Jim O'Brien got them to the conference championship. But then
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  Speaker 1: Danny Ames came. Yeah, but it's been back. I say,
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  Speaker 1: all the teams have rabid followers, but the question is
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  Speaker 1: how many. And I think television ratings don't would argue
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  Speaker 1: with that, Paul, They they television ratings aren't good for
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  Speaker 1: anything but the NFL. I know, but that's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about relatively speak. I mean, can you name
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  Speaker 1: a fan base of a losing team that is rabbid
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  Speaker 1: all the time. But the Celtics television ratings right now,
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  Speaker 1: we're not great. Yeah, well that's that's the NFL's ratings
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  Speaker 1: are the only thing that are great. I mean, any
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  Speaker 1: team that goes through a bad spell is going to
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  Speaker 1: see a decrease in fans. But there's a there's a
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  Speaker 1: solid base of like people in this area love sports
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  Speaker 1: in general. I think that was Mike's point. But they'll move,
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  Speaker 1: they'll move to what's the but they'll move to what
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  Speaker 1: is you know, the sports dojor you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 1: except for the Red Sox during that like it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like a badge of honor to be a
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  Speaker 1: Red a long song suffer fan. I'm not sure that
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  Speaker 1: the other teams have that type of you get here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anyway, get here. Sorry I derailed things a
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  Speaker 1: little bit there. DeVante Parker did speak today, he did
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  Speaker 1: mention and what did he have to say? How much
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: she said number eleven not set in stone? Evidently that
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: was the pressing issue with the I was like reading
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the tweets, I was like this this. We got a
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: really big smile out of him for that question, Like
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: he really told me you didn't ask it. I would
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: have made fun of him earlier, had I know doing
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: just just wanted to ask you ye here lighthearted? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he commented Mike kind of interesting asking Hi about chad
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  Speaker 1: Osha in twenty nineteen being in Miami and a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of connection to the offense and said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being able to move around a little bit. I think
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  Speaker 1: that's part of how they do things here. Um impressions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: said you know, he's got some zip on it and
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  Speaker 1: there he goes. Everybody health No, no, no, We asked
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: the people was wearing eleven. No one asked the guy
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: who's hurt every year, how we felt. Yeah, I think
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: in passing. Someone said obviously injuries have played a role,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: but but not how he is doing currently, but said
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: he's been running more on training, So I guess that's
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: those kinds of questions. I'd be interested. Has he done
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: anything differently as he tried running, tried anything different over
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the years to to stay healthy because he's he's had
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: hamstring issues. Yeah, like chronic kind of hamstring problems. Twelve
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: get him up to TV twelve. Yeah, that was the
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: one thing you mentioned was he's running a lot more.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I felt like I felt like he kind of kind
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: of got stuck in that in the new Patriot thing
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: where what's okay to say and it's not just okay
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: to say, and you know, what do you bring to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the team, And he kind of started along, well, you know,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: downfield thread and you know, contestic. I'm just trying to
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: do what, you know, be part of the team, right
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: like he feels like, all of a sudden, you could
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: just see the shift where he started talking about him
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: spell specifically what he can do, what his strengths are,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it was a quick
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to help the team in any way, Yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: pointing at him few cards switch gears. But uh but yeah,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: not a you know a little bit of a dry guy,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: does It seems like he's got a big personality like
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I don't care just or something, just catch, get open
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and catch it. Yep, it's true. Stay healthy, stay healthy,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: stay healthy, get open, open, open and catch it. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: don't even know if he needs to get open to
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: go up and get it. You know he can do
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that too. But but good addition, I mean he's here,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So that's that's good. I mean, I like seeing just
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: really lowered the bar. He's here, I think. I mean,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: but he's here in OTA's and as opposed to some
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: other wide receiver who may not be here. Oh what
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: what that's just funny, like from the guy had just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: been killing him. He's not it's not he's not here.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: He's not. Somebody caught a picture I guess of him,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: like a tropical Yeah, like posting like, you know something,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: thankful for another twenty four and not wasn't here. It
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: look like the metam in Arizona or something. Looked like
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: maybe a desert. But but no, I think just the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: fact that the offensive pieces are are together here in April,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: starting to work together. It's you didn't even have Matt Jones.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It's good you didn't, like. I mean, they're just you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I mean the fact that Matt you know, last year
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he was a rookie. Um, he didn't come on the
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: team until after he's drafted, and then you're doing all
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: those others. Now he's gotten a head start on things
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and he's taking advantage of that and you love to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think it's important,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: but it's funny like getting away for a week and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of just being more in the national scene.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: It's just it is a blood bath in the AFC.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, looking at what the teams do. I mean,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you know, turning into NFL Live or what's just every
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: week is just And that's I think the thing with
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Mac for me and the offense and all this is
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: just getting bigger perspectives, like they just have such a hard,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: hard task. Like there's so many good teams and you know,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you can stack up all the different talent around around
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: the AFC and the moves that have been made, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it's hard. It's just really hard for them. And you know,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: as much as I want them to be good and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you know, be the future here, that they're really going
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: to have to you know, find something special, I think,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to to do what they did last year and you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: get into a playoff spot and win a bunch of
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: games in the middle. It's it's not getting any easier
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: at all. And I mean that's why it's like, all right,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that the group is together and they know
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: what they they know what they're up against, because it's
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: i just don't really ever remember a time. And maybe
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: it's just because now we're kind of a middling team
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: now and looking up at some teams and not looking
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: down at as many as we used to. Uh, just
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: kind of how overwhelming it is of of how are
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you going to challenge these teams? I mean then with
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: mac row too, you know talking about you know, acknowledging
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the speed and the things around the league that have changed,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and how much are they going to do? And I
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: just think next next week is is huge. Once I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: get over my jet lag, I think I'll start to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: get a little more excited. But it's it's a huge week.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: All right. Well that's today's show. Yeah, um, but that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: is interesting. You brought up Matt grow and uh, you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: guys weren't here, uh you know, Paul and Deuce, and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: we didn't hear from you tomorrow. Did you hear what
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: mac rowe said in particular about what the wide receiver
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: position in that you have to be aggressive. You can't
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: expect it to come to you. You have to go
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: get those guys that are playmakers. What did you take
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that from that? Yeah? I mean duh, you know, like,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: well why haven't you well, what are you been doing
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. You know, it's it's just
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: how have they ignored the draft? That that's since Nakeel,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: they haven't really made a big investment in the draft.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And I think that that what you've seen. Unless you're
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: willing to trade a bunch of picks and pay a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: bunch of money, you've you've got to get those guys
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: in the draft, and I think it's worth taking a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: shot on one every year. I mean, you confirm what
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: we talked about on the show of all the proliferation
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of seven on seven football and how these guys are
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: coming in and well, why haven't you tapped any of them? Then?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I mean you've had this offensive kind of problems for
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: a few years. I mean, you know, even when you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: took Harry, you had to know, like, we need we
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: need talent on the outside. We're gonna we're not gonna
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: be able to continue with Edelman and Gronk and all
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that when that was coming in an end. So I
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like to hear him say it, but I think, like
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you got to act in this draft and you've got
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to continue to build because I think if they ignore
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the position again, I'm gonna be annoyed if you go
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and I would you rather, though, take a splash and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: just get Debot or take a chance in the draft,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: because half of them in this draft, the good ones,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: all have torn acls or some sort of surgery. Sure,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and I mean that's a risk you're going to take
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: with anybody. But I think I'm at the point now
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: where build with the draft. Get these guys under contract
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: for four years on a rookie deal. You've got Mac
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Jones for four more years. Potentially get somebody that can
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: stay with him and continue that continuity. I like that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: everybody's working together right now. I don't want to go
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: out and all right, let's blow. I mean it's sure
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: on paper you could say, we go get Debo. It's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: it's a great addition. I mean he will he absolutely
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: would he Chay, absolutely, but you know at what cost
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: and for how long? And you know, I just I'd
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: have to sign him, yeah, and he'd be around. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't Mac, No, I'm serious, I wouldn't make
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that trade without signing exactly with Tamara. Like you can
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: sign into a five year contract and now you have
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: your thing with Jim and Mac. That would be my
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: preference to your question. That's my preference too, because I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: think I'm looking at the draft board and the wide
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: receivers available, the really good ones. A lot of them
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: are coming off with torn acl or some sort of
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: core surgery that they just hadn't get to see them
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: at Pro Day or the combine. So it's like, are
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: they going to be the same dynamic, explosive player that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: they were in college? Plus, we know Debo's good. Yes,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: I know, I know there's something about Debo that Bill
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: really likes. That's why I'm more like, I feel like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: he was close to being a Patriot at the draft.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And I know that we say that about all the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: good players, all the guys that that work out around
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the league were almost Patriots at the draft, and I
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: know that we tend to look at through Patriots centric glasses,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But I do feel like there was a connection there
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: with that meeting and that he was to see the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: guy that there was a rumor that Bill was a
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: little upset that he was too open with his visit.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: When he left, he took a picture of the front
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and said, I'll be I'll see you in a month's right,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: He's out. The word was that that that would be something.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think Bill ever said anything publicly. No, The
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: word was that was something that they probably wouldn't like, right,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they didn't like that or not.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: They might they might have loved it. For Oh I know,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: listen guy, Oh God forbid. The guy's enthusiastic about being here. Correct,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you know, like he took a picture. But unless they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: unless he walked out the door and they said don't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: take pictures and then he turned around and took one,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Now that that would be that would be different. I say,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you know, to to Tamara's point, you know, he was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: a second round guy, you know, like that's what I mean, Paul, like,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: take a chance on one of these guys in the
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: second round like that. You know, you don't love him,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you know, he's probably he's probably a twenty one Tray
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Brooks is actually being compared to Deebo and what he
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, I mean he's a little bigger guy. Yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you know, and people get people get the hairy jitters
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: with him because he's because he's big. I love him, Um,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I like trailing, But you know, Christian Watson, there are
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: other guys that have potential, uh, you know that you
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: can get in day two that you can slide in,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: let him work out. You know, Dodsons somewhere down there
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Day two, yell right, yeah, one Day two. I with Mike,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I think the last like four or five drafts, and
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I did this for one of my notes columns during
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the season, but there's an incredible amount of Day two
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: receivers and even Day three receivers that have really made
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a mark. And this receiver class is not supposedly as
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: deep as say the previous three or four years, but
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I think you can find a guy somewhere that should
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: be able to produce right away. And I'm with Mike
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit. And the fact that I can't understand
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: why Bill has neglected it in the draft, and I
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people this this is funny the
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: way it's gone. You know, it's starting with that Florio
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: piece that you talked about last week before we left, Mike,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: like out of nowhere, like it's time to say it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: It's time to say the Bill. Bill has a blind spot.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You can't drapt wide receivers. And then and then you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: see all of the the wall defenders tell you how
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: few wide receivers the Patriots are actually selected. See, I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: can understand last year not taking a wide receiver in
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds because you spent all that
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: money on Agalore and born in two tight ends and
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: you know, so you know, I can understand you needed
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: the quarterback. You knew one of the first two picks
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: is going to be a quarterback. And then Barmore, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you fell in love with him, and so I can
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: understand them not taking last year, you know, but then
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: prior years, you know, that's that's an issue. But we'll see,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you know. It seems like one of the things I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: was struck by the and we've talked about it the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: video that was on Patriots dot com about the scouting
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: department is the youth in there. You know, Patricia's got
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: experienced obviously, he's in personnel and Bill, but all these
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: guys like Marshall Oyam and matc grow In, uh Ziegler,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: They're they're relatively young guys, and I like that, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I mean I also think this is and I have
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: to like verbalize this wolf. Sorry, are there other people
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: out there that like, don't really want someone else's star,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: You want to get your own? Star and develop them
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: there and have it be your guy. Like, I don't
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: know if that's kind of a weird thing that you know,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I have a little bit of just like Debo is great,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: but I want to find our debot. You don't know
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: how it works? Oh, it's very simple to get past that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: How Bill is actually the guy who discovered debo. He's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: been ours all along. He's been ours all along, just
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: like Ray Lewis come home. Just like, don't you understand
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: how it works? I mean when you do, when when
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: you look at purely money, though, there is something to
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: be said about drafting the guy, so at least you
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: get your four years or if he's the first round,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: or five years of manageable money before you really have to,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, back up the Brinks truck. Yeah you know, Yeah, No,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I get that from Robert's perspective. It's not
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: my money. I don't care, right, right, I don't, I don't.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it right, Robert has a budget.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I get that. But I'll pay for great players any day,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: any day. Yeah, you know how I love debo. But
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: if I had my if I have my choice of
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: a Debo production on a rookie contract or paying debo production.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Of course I'll take the rookie contract, but yeah, what
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: are the chances the rookie is going to be debo
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: right right? And what are then? And if you get
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that guy, you're gonna have to pay them if you
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: want to eventually will you will have to pay to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: that eventually. But I just think the long term at
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that position is far from set, which is born and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you know, potentially Parker being under contract next year. So
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: it's just a it's a long term question. And I
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: think there's so many guys that you could there's so
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: many guys that they could select on day two or three,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and you could run right down the list and I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't kick any of them out of bed, like I'll
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: take any of them. Any one of those guys would
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: come in. But any one of those guys would be exciting.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, and and that's and there's a numb I mean,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: there's ten ten names that you could list off day two,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: day three. Oh wow, that guy's gonna bring a little
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: juice to the to the slot. That guy's gonna have,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know, some size and some speed to the outside,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: or you know, Christian Watson Wow, what's he gonna do?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Get him into a season three big? And yeah, Watson,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I circled him. One of the things I found with
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: him is he doesn't always catch the ball cleanly, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: like he kind of yeah yeah, but kersh not sold
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: on the hand. So I liked Watson. I circled him. Burks.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I talk about Burk's probably twenty one, but
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: but him, like I know, and they'll be certainly people
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: are like touch the next Harry, We're screwed um, But
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I think he he is not the next Harry fel
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: like he takes part in like chats online that he's
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: got strong, like the captain of Like, guess what I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: saw on Twitter day? Where did you find that, Paul?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: There were people, there are people saying it. I just
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: wish differences. I show you what Paul has. Paul has
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: like chat groups coming out, like where's the negativity over
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the Patriots draft picks when they make them. I'll tell
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you there's plenty of negativity over Harry. Now, yeah, not
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: at the time. There weren't people at the time saying myself,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: there are every receiver at the Patriots take if he's
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: on another team, he loves them, just swerved off the highway.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: He's gonna calling about bro I agree with you're calling
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: about Burke. Could I'd be curious about him. I think
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you know, you watch him versus Alabama and he's got
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like a sixty or touchdown where he just pulls away
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: from everybody. Um, you know, So if they took a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: guy like that, Wow, you know you've got size, You've
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: got a piece kind of like debo that you can
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: move around a little bit. Like Tamara said, you know
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: that that some kind of element that comes in. It's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: just a little extra juice behind the scenes of a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: We got some veterans in place that are gonna at
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: least teach this guy how to get in, how to
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: do it. Um. You know, because even when you think
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of Harry when he got here, I mean, how many
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: what was the room like then? I mean I think
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: it was Edelman where there you know a lot of
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: guys that have been around. I don't know, um, but
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I just think there's a lot you can do. The
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: preseason injury to Harry killed because that completely takes him
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: off of Brady's radar, and while he's spending half of
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the season just trying to get physically up to speed.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: He's not really getting the reps that he needs to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: get that you know, that put him behind. Do you
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: think they could kill a guy like the Jamison's, the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Mechi's of the world, who are also gonna come. I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: think it's the difference there would be that he is
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: not inheriting like if Brady were here, I would say, yes,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that's gonna really hurt a guy like that because he's
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: gonna Brady's gonna have him completely off the radar because
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be able to work with him. But
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I think with a guy like Mac, especially with with
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Metchi who he actually played with, yeah, I think would
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: be less of an obstacle. I also think some of
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: these guys, I think our Bardie Burt Brier wrote about
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: this this week about um the lineman from the lineman
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: from the Eagles, Dickerson who had the torn acl and
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't know where he was going
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to He ended up like playing thirteen games. So and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I understand the little bit dual perspective of the acal
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: injury that you're gone a little different with a little differentsive.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: But if he could play half the year and you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: like I said, you know, guy like MATCHI has some
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: comfort level. They're already with Mac. You know that that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be Do you think that's overrated? And do you
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: think we're making too much of that? I don't know
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: of because he played a couple of years, Like you know,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I know everyone's on that just because they were together once.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: But it's it's also like, but there's other guys who
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: might be better, and that will make like that. He
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: might not have played with Mac for a couple of years,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: but he's a mixture. They've already played together, and Belichick
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: likes to draft sure. I think the bigger reason that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are talking about it is because
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of how well it worked with Waddle and Tua and
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you know, the Chase and some of the other Right,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the league is such a yeah, it's like, oh that
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: work if it's broke, don't figure. Yeah, I can give you.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I can give you an even longer list of guys
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: that worked out that didn't play together. Yeah, most of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: them don't. I guess in college it's just specific to Mechi.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I guess my thing with him is I feel like
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: he kind of is what he is in a good way.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: But also I don't really see his ceiling as something
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that like, you know, Watson might, yeah, and it might
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: be a little bit more of a of a chance
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: on a small school guy. But um, I don't know.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: There's a certain names that continue to pop up. All Okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you just ran out of here. Yeah. This conversation reminds
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: me of our conversation with Robert Kraft at the owners
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: meetings about how he wasn't concerned that the Patriots haven't
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: made a huge splash in the off season because of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: the gems that can be found in the draft. Yeah. Yeah,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I'm got to find them. But but he emphasized you
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: have to draft. Well yeah, I mean he said that
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: now two years in a row, and I think the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: message is clear. You know, when we can we can
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: think that from the outside, but when it's you hear
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it from the inside, it carries a little bit more yeah,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: more weight. I thought there was some of that with
• 33:04
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• 33:06
  Speaker 1: again to go back to some of the stuff like
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: are you sure you should be saying that right now?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: There was a couple with grow a little bit on
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: that call too. Um, But but you know, I go
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: back to something I said too. I mean, I think
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Bill gave Matt Grows a lot of credit for the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: draft last year, So I mean, I think he needs
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to do that again, you know. So I'm hopeful that
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: if they have another draft where you come out of
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: it where you know, of course, with Mac quarterback, the
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: excitement was palpable there Friday morning. You know, we came
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: back and Max coming here and we got a quarterback.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: If they can just get a touch of that kind
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: of energy of oh okay, we got a couple of guys.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: The problem is that the other teams are going to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: get those guys too, and so you know, it's it's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: it always you always forget you're fall in love with
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: someone and you're like last year we're at fifteen. Now
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you're six picks behind that, you know, which is significant,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: and teams with multiple picks in front of you. How
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: does that all play out? I mean, I think the
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback situation is something to watch because that could really
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you know, help push some guys down to them. Um,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: but we were, you know, we were talking upstairs a
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: little bit about draft, and I just, yeah, but they
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: need a cornerback. I kind of look at the quarterback thing,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people have talked about it, like
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Mike just did I look at it a little bit
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: of the opposite. Yeah, it'd be great if three or
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: four quarterbacks get taken, but the class is so bad
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: it's unlikely to happen, right, I know I agree with that,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and that's why I want to see as anybody willing. Oh,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I think how much are people willing to take a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: show on Kenny Pickett? How much do you like Kenny
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: pick Well? I think it's more likely that there'll be
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a run on cornerbacks and the Patriots will miss out
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: on one of those guys. I think this is going
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to be the most unpredictable first round we've we've Yeah,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it's all over the place, Yeah, picks, trades, ye, movement.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: It just nobody's there's no consensus on anything. Yeah. Food
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• 35:24
  Speaker 1: uh see what's going on in the phones. We'll start
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: with Patti and agawam. What's up? Patty Brett? Yes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: Pepsi Okay, No, I don't always drink soda. Pepsi's for kids.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have a opinion on that?
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow Coker Pepsi? Um? Personally, I don't like dark soda, Okay,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I like sprite. Sprite is my favorite. But let's expand
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• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I don't like miss see. I don't love it up.
• 36:17
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  Speaker 1: you would be able to tell the difference. No, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They all taste the same to him. Wait,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I think I would be able to tell that Spright,
• 36:32
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• 36:34
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• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that one. Really, I think I smell it. We have
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: an office taste test soda soda off. I like it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I always I've been waiting for the bud light cause
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: light middle light challenge myself. I could see that I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: could could as no way I could. I'd at least
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: get close. I could pick out minimal lights between anything else,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: because that's my brand. But I want to kind of
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: piggyback off of something you'd say on Tuesday. And that's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: if it's able to hit on at least three guys,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I mean that that could be a home run. I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: think we could be pretty good shape too. And I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: do have a list of three guys that I would
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: like to see and take and hopefully hit on. Yeah,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and it's it's realistic. I don't think it's unrealistic that
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: we could get all three of these guys and that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: they turned out to be good players. Now, last year,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: coming in, we knew that we needed a quarterback. You know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: I know those reports about wide receiver. I hate to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: say it fans, but our biggest position in need is
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: interior offensive line. My number one guy is Dilond Johnson.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: My number two guy would be Kyler Gordon, and number
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: three John Metchi douce I put a lot of stock
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: into him as a rapport with Max, just because Eric
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: you discussed on Tuesday. Yeah, you could draft somebody and
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: they could develop a rapport, But you have guys on
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: your team that already had at least a year of
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: rapport with Max. Why not bring somebody in that all
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: that you don't have to like change the system around
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a lot that he already knows that well. Mac is
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: like and he likes to play, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I mean what if he doesn't like it, Well, I
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: guess no, doesn't mean Matchi's gonna be a bust. Maybe
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: MATCHI doesn't like the way Mac Jones play. I mean,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just making that up, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I kind of I'm with Fred on that. There's a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: lot of college guys that go to play with Yeah,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: different teams that develop just far. Yeah, I'm not. I'm
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: not so hung up on that. I really I just
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: think it's give me a good I just think it's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: an interesting layer in to the situation. Yeah, because of Patty,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: like the amount that has happened recently. Yeah, and I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: and I like MATCHI I just I feel like I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: want to swing for the fences a little bit. I
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: want a little bit of I like them. But I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: just think they're gonna be together for four years. He's
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: gonna catch up their professionals now, they up to whatever
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: experience they have together. And I just know that cousin
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Patty is right. They're gonna take Zion Johnson in the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: first round like a guard in the first round. I'm
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: gonna throw up Todd's in North Carolina. Hey Todd, Hey guys,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I just want to say that with Yoman's work, where
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: for you to taking care of us as a couple
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: of days. I really appreciated, do you guys? Well, thank you.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate tomorrow bringing some physicality and athletic system
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: back to the show. Hey. My big thing is I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was talking to some people and they don't seem to
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: think that any of Bill's draft picks were involved in
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the first, like I know, the very first super Bowl,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it was mainly he took the team over. But the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: next two, the second and Thursday one, I thought that
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: he had some guys on there wasn't wasn't Will Park
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: on one, and sure the guy that's going to go
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: into Richard Richard Seymour started on the first one, yeah,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and the third one, first one and the third one, Yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you're in the second one and the second one, right,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: not like okay, Yeah, I was just I was in
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a a little bit of a heated debate because no,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the first the first part of the dynasty was largely
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a nucleus of hold over players. I mean, that's fat.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You can't you can't escape that. But Richard Seymour, Matt light,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Ty Warren Um, Eugene Wilson, Sante Samuel, Vince Wilford, Yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Daniel Graham, these guys were all draft picks. They were
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: all parts of those you know, either one, two or
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: all three of those three championships. Am wrong on that
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: they carried Tom Brady clearly. I just feel like we're
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's never drafted a single good player in
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: twenty two years. How he goes into this this like
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: deep dark web. Dude. I just wish you're you're jet
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like would wear off and you could bring some energy.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. Because they can draft corners,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think they can really hit on receivers tun
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: in them. Wait until late What about the second round corners?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: They've had some missus Terrence Wheatley, Rosie Dowling, Duke Dawson
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and Williams. First round they just he bucked it. But
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: there's a million of them, like six guys they talk
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: in the second round and none of them could play. Yeah,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: we'll just wait if you get they get on drafted wars.
• 41:06
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• 41:08
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• 41:10
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• 41:12
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• 41:16
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• 41:18
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• 41:21
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• 41:33
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• 41:37
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  Speaker 1: And now great moments in history. I'm gonna push back
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  Speaker 1: I have no interest in David Gibbons right now, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Patriots fans. But anyway, welcome Tomara. I hope you're good
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  Speaker 1: at accents, impressions and spelling. What is your favorite Patriots
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  Speaker 1: related memory? And why I know your many years? Last
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  Speaker 1: year this morning when Vante paid about the fact, well
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  Speaker 1: I've only been here since July, not even a year.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Huh no, not even a year yet. Um, you've had
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  Speaker 1: a lot of good interviews though you've talked to a
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: lot of the different folks right now they know well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, talking to people at the comments off the record,
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  Speaker 1: off the record. Um, I would say my favorite interview
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: definitely Kendrick Bourne. Um I would agree with David Andrews
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  Speaker 1: to say that he is the energizer Bunny and energizer Bunny.
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  Speaker 1: But favorite moment, um I would have to say the
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  Speaker 1: Patriots winning streak, like that was just a really fun
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  Speaker 1: stretch of games to be doing, especially for our PUTV,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: Like it was great. We had plenty of talk about
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  Speaker 1: yeah and then we didn't. It was good at last year.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully we can get you some more memories. Yeah that instead,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that winning streak, Like we look at twenty
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: years of what we've been through when yeah, this this
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  Speaker 1: poor person, I know, So how about this? What's your
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  Speaker 1: favorite memory in you know, working for Notre Dame Miami,
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  Speaker 1: Like was there something like that stood out there? Because
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: I know neither one of those teams won a national
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  Speaker 1: championship or anything, but like anything that happened there that
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  Speaker 1: was like wow, that was a great experience. Um, the
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame women's basketball team winning the national championship. Oh okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you weren't just football there, Yeah, everything there. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So Muffette McGraw getting her second national championship was amazing
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that it happened like the same day
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I think, like two decades later was crazy and so
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: that was cool. Um. Going to the Frozen Four in
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Minnesota was amazing. With the hockey team, that was great.
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  Speaker 1: Football wise. I was there with Brian Kelly like his
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: like rough season where they were like three and eight,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: so that was rough. Next year they went to play
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: LSU before they won the national championship, So that was
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: kind of cool too. That's where you got his accent.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Probably he picked it up one time. Um, as far
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: as accents go, I've heard that I have a little
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: bit of a Southern accent because I'm from Virginia, so
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: that might come out a little bit when I say, y'all,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: maybe yeah, But I don't like stupid a lot. What
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: about stupid impression accents? Because that's that's that's more when
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: when when on this show, when they refer to accents,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: it's people giving an impression of an accent. So we
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: had an accent off Eric and I because Eric, you know,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: he's a traveler. So yeah, so I challenged it to
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  Speaker 1: an accent off and people randomly said, okay, Germany and
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: we had to come up with a German accent. Yea,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: then that a little I'm going to be pretty bad
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  Speaker 1: at this. Well, just so you know the fact that
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  Speaker 1: your eyes just got why there's the appropriate response because
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  Speaker 1: I know you were immediately thinking, yeah, this can't be good.
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  Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty two. I don't really want to be
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  Speaker 1: involved in that, and you are correct, Samerath. That is
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  Speaker 1: why you will have a long and prosperous career. Where
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  Speaker 1: As Fred and I are on the way out. What
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  Speaker 1: was the last one we had? Uh an off? What
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  Speaker 1: was the off that we impression? The impression off? Yeah,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: now that was different. That was like, we mean, no offense. Yeah,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: you have to do like you know Clint Eastwood or yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know famous people. Yeah. I feel like this is
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: y'all's um version of charades. Well pretty much. Now see
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: what happens is Eric Eric, Eric likes to fashion himself
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  Speaker 1: as an expert in a lot of areas that's not.
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  Speaker 1: And then I challenge him on and I say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: because did you know that he was a stand up
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  Speaker 1: comedian at one time. I did it for a little while. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't make a living off of it, but I
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  Speaker 1: did it for about a year after college. You got
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  Speaker 1: out there and did it. I think that it is cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's I wouldn't have the and and just they
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  Speaker 1: involved and did it for a year. Oh yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: And I also think it's one of the hardest things
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  Speaker 1: story when I kind of like maybe in my second
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  Speaker 1: the crafts like me, you know, and they really really
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  Speaker 1: like they had me like kind of be the host
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  Speaker 1: out there and I roasted and you know, like made
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  Speaker 1: fun of him, and the whole room was just like
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  Speaker 1: people were laughing after week because you think you're funny.
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  Speaker 1: Did you know you were going to be hosting it
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: or do you think you were going like as a
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  Speaker 1: guest and they're like, no, you're you're the host. Get
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  Speaker 1: up there a couple of days in advance. I like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was told, okay, I had some jokes about you know,
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  Speaker 1: I remember Myra at the that was funny. And then
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  Speaker 1: didn't like that. Oh, but the end of the story,
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  Speaker 1: I never got invited back. That was it. We gotta
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: get a better host that well, they probably by that,
• 58:35
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• 58:37
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• 59:02
  Speaker 1: coke and the second being ice cold. Pepsi, being a
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  Speaker 1: coke drinker, I immediately recognized and preferred the coke, even
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  Speaker 1: though it was lukewarm. Beware of taste tests that serve
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  Speaker 1: lukewarm drinks. That's not fair. What's your perfect soda like
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: style of service? Like for me? Crushed ice, the crushed dice.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you like that, fountain soda, crushed ice, fountain soda.
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  Speaker 1: For me, that's that's as good as it gets. Yeah,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: crushed ice, crushed ice. Actually, mine is an ice cold
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: can of coke. No, you don't want to water down
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: ice cold, but ice coal, you know, ice cold can
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: of coke. Yeah. I like the big, the big ice
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: like cubes of ice. But I don't like that because
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: getting an ice cube in like the top lip or
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  Speaker 1: the nose. While we're talking about a fine whisky, very
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  Speaker 1: little drinking experience obviously due huh. Got a drinking problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's not too much. I just don't know how the
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  Speaker 1: problem with drinking? What do you pouring it on his forehead?
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: Bottled soda? I love bottles, see, I love the old
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: coke bottle. But it doesn't keep it as cold. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just I need ice. I need I need ice
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: in it. That's that's ideal. Crushed ice. Crushed ice is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I just we just once again, I always agree with you.
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  Speaker 1: Push back, Paul, I don't push back, push back wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Crushed ice is terrible. I just remember like being a
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  Speaker 1: little kid, and back in those days, like parents would
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: feed their kids soda like it wasn't a big deal.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Now I didn't know that. Yeah, I think parents think more,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like it's it's not really good for you.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: You know when you were a kid, they served sasaparilla, right.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: But my dad would take me into the store like
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  Speaker 1: whether it's you know, whatever store, and they'd have like soda,
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  Speaker 1: and I would just be amazed at how fast he
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: could drink the soda, Like how how does because I
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  Speaker 1: would get it up my nose and like the whole
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  Speaker 1: try to soda, the bubbles go up your nose and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: everything like that, and like like wow, we drinks that
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  Speaker 1: so fast. And I drank way too much soda as
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• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: was just high liquid intake. Yeah, you know, same with soda,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just drank too much of everything. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: whatever doesn't show soda. What's going on with Jimmy? Yeah,
• 1:01:45
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  Speaker 1: Orleans where Jared is. Hey, Jared Pelicans fan. Hey, how
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  Speaker 1: y'all doing good? How you doing? We're good? I got
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  Speaker 1: two questions and a tribute question for y'all fail Are
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: okay with that? All right? All right? First question is, um,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: what are the chances of Derek Stingley becoming a Patriot
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: after his dad play? What is I think? Thirteen point
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: six percent? Yeah, it's he's probably gonna be gone before
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably gone. I feel the same way.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be gone. And just you know, for clarification,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: he's Darryl's grandson. Not right, okay, But there's a little
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: uncertainty with with Stingley because he had the great year
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: in nineteen and then battled injuries in twenty and twenty
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: one and hasn't been nearly as productive now. The talent
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: is off the charts. He watched watch some of the film. Yeah,
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: he's really really talented. Being from New Orleans and seeing
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: him play at Las Shoe that you're right about him
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: only playing in twenty nineteen. Yeah, but he's uh, yeah,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: he's a really really talented player. I don't think he'll
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: be there at twenty one. Do you think that he's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: so talented because he had the opportunity to practice against
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Burrow and Chase probably didn't hurt, Probably didn't hurt. Yeah,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I mean he was a true freshman on that team too. Wow. Yeah,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I mean it's I think it's a good question for
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: all those guys. I mean, it's a question with Mac,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: it's a question with Nakobe Dean playing. You know, all
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: those Georgia defenders. It's something you got to out defensive
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: players too, Mike. The trivia question is what is the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: most lapside in championship score like the NFL. In the NFL,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I mean Super Bowl San Francisco fifty five to ten
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: over Denver? Is that right? Oh? Champions championship like not
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: not just super Bowl seventy seventy three to nothing? Whoa
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Chicago seventy three nothing? Yeah, yeah, seventy three nothings? Right?
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: How did you know that he was at the game.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: He's got his like you know, his raccoon firmo, you
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: know his panel. They didn't even have the forward pass.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: That's what made it even more Chicago and Washington, right, yeah, wow,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: funny he knew I didn't always the next him at
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: the game. Well did you did? You used to travel
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: in a rumble seat in the back of the car.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I used to travel in a Deloreans. Wow, when you
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  Speaker 1: were at the IFD Christmas Parking All right, thanks Jared.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Random trivia question seventy three to no. I liked it.
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  Speaker 1: What year was that? It was thirties? Mightbea way, mightbe
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: you're yeah, oh yeah, NFL champion That's why when he
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: said championship, that's why I said super Bowl, right, I
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: thought he was talking. I was taking super Bowl. That's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: why I went with the fifty five to ten. I
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: thought that was the biggest because also NFCAFC those are
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: considered championships too, So you gotta define it, you gotta yeah,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: right that super Bowl is one through three. I think
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: we're NFL AFL championship games technically, yeah, right, right, Because
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: then the merger happened, and let's see, Burton's in New York,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Kate Burton, what's going on here? Who's part Harty Arty? Yeah?
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: What's going on with the Hell's going on over here?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: I think people call it work and then the boss
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  Speaker 1: does see it seems sometimes people are like, I can't
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: really talk right now. I have to get this question
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: in though. What do you think of John Mitchell? I'll
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: take it. I'll take it off here. Uh. Sean is
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: in Vancouver. Hey Sean, Hey, guys about that. The call
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't there. I wasn't sure if I was on there
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: or not. But anyways, welcome to the show. Tamara. Are
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: you going to be here next week for the draft? Yeah,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: it would be pretty cool. I will do rivers, have
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: tides careful it is. We don't want to hear that.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Do your research and come back on Thursday. So so,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: like Yeric, I love Jordan Davis to be false. But
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: another thing I kind of have a question about is
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: do the Patriots currently have someone who could set the edge,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: like be the next Frable or Nikovich. Could Ronnie Perkins
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: or Joshua do that? Or if Jermaine Johnson is there
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: at twenty one, do they take him. I think it's
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: an excellent question, Sean. And something I'm surprised people don't
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: talk about more is, you know, say what you will
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: about high Tower and van Noy and Collins, but those
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: were guys who played a lot last year. And you know,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I think setting the edge is an important part of defense.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't know who's really going to do it
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: across from Jude On it's right now, it's an unproven person.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: So like I just I look at it, and I say,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: we need defense in that first round. I don't really care.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: I would love, you know, a versatile defensive front guy. Um,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's gonna be one there, Like
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jermaine, sure absolutely. I think that that's you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: like it's like Chandler Jones, it's I mean, I equated
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: to the Chandler. God, I can't break it. I can't
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: break it Schandler. You know what's fun to quick aside?
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Driving through LA and I'm like, do I go left
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: on Chandler because there's a road called Chandler in LA?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: And and Lan's like, what did you just call it?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I like, lane makes fun of you? Yeah? No, yeah, yeah, no,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: it's hilarious, But I think it's a great point. I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: don't think enough people talk about it. You know, everybody
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: wants to talk about wide receiver at twenty one. I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: think this defense they haven't touched the front seven. They've
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: lost a bunch of guys from it. I think it's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: in need of a twenty twelve double dip. Two guys
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: that can come in and play in the front Sean.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I wish we knew what Perkins could do. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, but we haven't seen Perkins since like the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: last preseason. I mean, he looked okay in the last
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: preseason game. Other than that, I didn't know nothing, really
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: nothing at all during the season. Double dip and get
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Walker and Dean. Oh don't please Walker to me, I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: love him. I mean, well, you just made a whole
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: new thing for me to worry about, because you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I live for things to be concerned the whole Georgia
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: defense thing. I've been like, well, look at all these guys,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: they're all like, who's the real superstar and who's the
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: one just they're going to get the two guys that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: are only good because of the one guy who made
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: it right. And I mean, and I think you could
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: probably make a case that any one of them is
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: the weak links. I mean, they're all good football players obviously,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: but you know, Walker didn't have a ton of production, Davis.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: You got some concerns about how is he going to
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: come in and play all three downs? Dean is under size. Um.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I think Walker probably a little bit less
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: just because he's not viewed as one of those top,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: top top guys. But I think it's valid, you know,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: all right, thanks for the call, Sean. I love Salman
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area rights in. First off, welcome to
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Marrow to Patriots Unfiltered, You've already increased the intellect in
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the room tenfold, kidding. Just take it easy, Eric, look
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: forward to having an additional voice to hear on all
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: things Patriots and TV shows. I don't believe the Brady
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: to the Finns rumor was covered on any of the
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: recent shows. It's not a direct impact of the Patriots,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: but could have indirectly impacted the Patriots since they're a
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: division team. I don't know. I think we talked about
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: it in every show. Yeah. Absolutely. What do you make
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: of this rumor that he was going to come back
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: as a minority owner? Unretire and play for the Finns
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: with Sean Payton as the coach. We talked about that
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: many times. I don't buy it. It seems a little
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: out there. And also I believe the Bucks would still
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: retain his rights if this unfolded. But I will say,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: if this is true, Belichick was already two steps ahead
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: because of the text of Flores. Yeah, I heard that
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: this guy's being sarcastic. I think them out. Yeah, I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: because I assume you guys did talk about Yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: we did. And he's got another episode of The Man
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and Arena coming out. I thought, I what else? What left?
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: So how's he? I it's just the one that never did? Yeah,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: this is so? This is this season, this season or
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the last chance. I think he talks about I think
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: he talks about leaving the Patriots in this one. That's
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: that's how it was built. To me, what took so long?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Like the other ones that are banging him out? Banging
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: him out? And so is he gonna touch on the retirement?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they had to re redo it a little bit, right,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I mean since since the last one he retired and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: came back, right, So is he gonna shine insight? Into
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: that is he going to comment on what everybody's saying
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: right now? I mean, it's it's become a tradition with
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: him when he makes these these these documentaries from Tom
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Versus Time. The fifth one didn't come out until like
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: a month later. This one, it's like been six months.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Everybody said it was because they lost the game, right,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: It's like the poor editor on the on the Tom
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Brady production and we have to do another cut, like
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm actually unretiring now. Yeah, I just it's
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: also clunky. And that's just I don't get with Brady.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Like he the first part of his career, everything was
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: so well managed. He's kind of stayed out of the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: spotlight as much as he could. He wasn't you know,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: and then you know it kind of became TB twelve
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: and it's just everything is so clunky, Like I can't
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: get over like he just can't seem to get out
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: with grace um And I'm just surprised. Interesting, Wow, interesting.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I was with him a thousand percent until the last
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: that word Grace. Yeah, Grace, what's the opposite of clunky? Like,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: so I think he's I think he's been clunky. I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: think every and I think the way you said it,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I thought he I thought he was really image conscious,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: like maniacally so throughout the first part of his career.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: And I love the way you said it that he
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: became TB twelve. It's like people used to say about
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Terrell Owens. He was he was Terrell Owens and and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: then he made that catch to win that playoff game
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: on the last play the game, and he became t
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: O R from that point on, and he was kind
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: of a different persona. Yeah, and I you know, I
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: think Brady was kind of similar. He was like that,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the ultimate winner, the ultimate team guy, the ultimate anything,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: you know, team first, and then he kind of became
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: TV twelve and he wanted his guy on the plane,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: his guy to treat the other players, and I'm going
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: to throw the receivers that work out with my guy.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: And yeah he's still great. So he still won, just
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: like TiO was still a great receiver, right even though
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: he kind of left the reservation there for a little while.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Um clunky, I would say, is a good way to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: put it. Yeah, he can't seem to do anything with Grace,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: like like, I mean, what does he really I mean,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: what has he really done that's lacked grace? Yeah, I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: would be the only thing I would sort of question, Yeah,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: maybe a weird weird coming out of retirement. It's not
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: necessarily like an ungraceful move. I think this is his
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: last year. I think he kind of set that, Um
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: did I did he on something that was out This
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: is it? That's all he said. Sorry, Brett thinks he's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: gonna retire after this season for good Yeah, win or lose.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: He had some kind of I was on the plane,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: so I was just sort of reading all the little
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I wasn't listening, and they were saying that he you know,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I believe me. I understand that I'm close to the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: end and my best football was behind, you know, sort
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: of seem like, yeah, I also think we're gonna notice
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: a little bit of hitch, a little bit yeah, and
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: not like not like not a cliff, not a cliff,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: not like nah no, no, not nah. It's tough though,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: because he's had moments where you're like and then all
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, he just clicks back into zerker moment.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: No listen, it's it's in his blood. He knows what
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: to do. I went to do it, but I just
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I think this is it. It's also like the new
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: match thing that they're starting to promote, and and and
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I've always believed to be a good quarterback. And what
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: makes Brady so great is that he is annoyingly competitive
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: and and it just it's one of those people motivated
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: just doesn't need anyone to really say you can't do it.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: It's just in his head. He's got people are saying
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. It's just it's it's like a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: lot like and now he's like talking trash with Josh.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, just we get it. You're competitive, you want
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: to win like all Like I just I just feel
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: like he's he's also a promoter, so he wants to
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: promote everything, right, And then you gotta go, Okay, all right,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Tamara's leaving debut, good solid, t go watch the tape.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: Leave him wanting. I started talking Brady and then she
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: laughed on like what did I do? Well? You know,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see you next week, Tomara. Um, Matt gave me
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: the quotes that I was talking about for Brady, so
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I'll just read a couple of He says, I knew
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: my body physically could still do what it could do,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: and obviously I have love for the game. I think
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: I'll always have love for for the game, Brady told ESPN.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I do think physically I'll be able to do it.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: I just felt like there was still a place for
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: me on the field at the end of the day.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I just loved the competition on the field, and last
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: year was a very bitter ending to a season, and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: we've got to make a lot of corrections to try
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: to improve and put ourselves in a better position to
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: succeed moving forward. I know I don't have a lot left.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: This was the part that I was thinking about. I
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: know I don't have a lot left. I really do.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I know I'm at the end of my career. I
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: wish you could go forever, but it's just not in
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: football comes at too high of a cost. Now my
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: kids are getting older, and it's just getting harder and
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: harder to miss these things. But I wanted to give
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: myself and my teammates in our organization another incredible opportunity
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: to accomplish something that we'd all be very proud of.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: That to me, is that's as close as saying this
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what goes against
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: when I suck all quit like, and he feels like
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: he's flirting with it, and I just I would have
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: preferred to see him go out on his terms. And
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: I just worry that he's kind of wishy washy right now.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: And that's when I feel like you get hurt, you know, like,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: that's when you get you're just not locked in. Yeah,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it's when you start
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: thinking about retirement. You you retire. Yeah, yeah, so I
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: guess this episode. Speaking of former Patriots, UH want to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: remind everyone that the voting is open for the Patriots
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. The three finalists are Vrabel, Will Fork,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: In Mankins and you can go to Patriots dot com
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: and vote on those and Paul Um. We had a
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: couple of people calling last week. Who do you think
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: that they're both voting for Wilford. You're correct, Yeah, we
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: had one that was a writing though, wasn't it. No,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: that was the call. The others were writing, oh right,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: two writings for will Fork, one call for Vrabel. Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: But I converted him, Yes, yeah, I converted him. Yeah, good. Yeah. No,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: I think any of them would be worthy picks. This
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: isn't like one of the ones that I will be
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: ranting about in five years, you know, Kevin fut Light.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: But I do think that we dropped the ball as
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: a committee. I think we didn't put the in my mind,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: the most deserving candidate on the ballot. And I can't
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: even fathom that he wasn't one of the top three.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: And that's west welcome. I don't think, say John Smith,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand it. Um. But yeah,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: there'll be no arguing if Mike Rabel is the next inductee,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: or Vince Wilfork Um or Logan Mankins. I think all
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: three of those guys are Patriots Hall of famers. I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: don't really think there's much discussion that needed to be had,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: you know, for for each of their characteracy. I do
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: think Wilfork will win. UM. I think he's more of
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: a fan favorite, and I think that's what ends up
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: winning these things. I'll see. I mean, i'd be Variable. Yeah,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: you can't keep doing this, Like I know, I'm I'm
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: on the varie and I think everything that you out
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: of all these three, I think i'd be Mankins. Really,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: I think everything you love about Wilfork, I feel like
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: Variable has it and has a little more of it,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: and I think Vince. Vince is more of a lovable
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: character and that's why he'll probably get it. Verybel was
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit rough around the edges, which is what
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I liked about him, but I just did so much
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: he can't. Also think Rabel was more of a factor
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, and I think with Vance, I
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: think that they really had to go out of their
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: way to sort of try to get that out of
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: him toward the end of his career. I think that
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: was a big part of why Bill stuck with him,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: is because he wanted that from him. I think Rabel
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: did it throughout his time here. Mankins, to me, is
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: the best player of the three. Um, which as hard
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: as I mean to to, I mean that says a lot.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: But you talk about the toughness, you know, playing an
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: entire year with a twenty acl moving out to left
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: tackle seamlessly when needed, which he did right in he
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people in the organization say
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: unequivocally he's the second best offensive lineman this organization has
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, behind only John Hannah. Dante said that recently. Yeah, Um,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: who am I game? I was hoping to Marry would
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: stick around so I could introducer to the game, but
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: she's not here. We know how it works. So these
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: are all current or former Patriots. Right. I was named
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: to Football Digest nineteen ninety nine All Tough Guy Team.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety nine All Tough Guy Team was awarded a
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: game Ball by Bill Belichick for Manning managing to defecate
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: on the sideline of an NFL game without anyone noticing.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: Lario was correct, that goes to deuce. No, just yeah,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: they got him a bucket in the really yeah, kind
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: of disgusted, very disgusted. Hbody who has to handle the bucket?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: The bucket guy? They got a guy. I am a
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: linebacker from Florida who went to two National Championship games.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Brandon Spikes correct, that was my pick. Yeah, that's two.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: I'm over two and I knew them both, which was
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: sp We can do it after the game. I was
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: named to captain during the two thousand and three season
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: during Rodney Harrison Rodney Harrison is correct. Wow, the wording
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: there was crucial. Right. Um. Two more, My hometown is Suffolk, Virginia,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: and I went to William and Mary College. M next one,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I began my coaching career as a receiver's coach. I
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: mean I did write a feature about him which day,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: but two months later and finally I'm known to have
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: small hands. I'm always I'm always very positive. I have
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: a sore bath from carrying the show last Tuesday. I
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: missed this because I was reading this state I am
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Paul Parillo. But what was on the show? Yeah, I
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: don't know. Mike. Yeah, it was good, Mike. That's from
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Mike and San Marcos, Texas. It was good up until
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: that last I missed that. I missed. That's a that's
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: a joke of small hands. Yeah, you have small hands.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Pull Oh, I do have small hands. Yeah, small hand
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: that small? You don't think so, I mean not egregiously
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: so like look at his little baby hands over there,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: like that Kristen wigg thing, you know. Yeah yeah, um
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: Cole writes in from Eugene, Oregon. No, uh, he says Deebo.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Samuel is an incredible player, but it's wrong place, wrong
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: time for the Patriots to make that move. Assuming the
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: trade will require a haul somewhere between the Davante Adams
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill trades, I wouldn't give up a first
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: and a second round pick for this player, because I
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: don't think it would make us a championship contender. Chances
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: are there will be another wide receiver available next year.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: If Mac develops well, that might be a better time
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: to invest at that position. Another wide receiver available next
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: year for what, I don't know. I don't know what
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: he means free agency. Maybe he just doesn't think Max
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: ready for I think, like, I don't understand, and I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: think that's a that's a very sound argument. I yeah,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: I know. I think you could say that it's not
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: worth it to go up a first in the second
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: round pick plus a contract. But I think that's, like
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I said, I think that sound. But now you're saying
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: you can get that guy next year. But you're not
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: gonna have to go up like any of that to
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: get a guy next year, right, Like like the wide
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: receiver contracts that people are up in arms about now,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: and they're not going to go the other way, right,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: So if you think you can get a free agent
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: next year, you're gonna have to pay him a lot.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: And it's funny too, because I think the and I'm
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: guilty of it too, saying oh, well, you get a
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: guy and then you got him for four years, you
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: might only have him for two if he's awesome. And
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: then he pulls the Ebo and he says, hey, I'm
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: also tapping the same things happening with Tennessee with A J. Brown,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: and you see John Robinson our old friend. Yes, Jay
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: rob Um saying that they're not trading him either. Maybe
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: they won't. I know San Francisco said they're not going
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: to trade Debo either, but wouldn't be the first time
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: a GM said. Guy's noting like Andrew Brandt, like I say, translation,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: we're open for business. Translation, you know, give us your
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: your your best offers because someone will do something quote
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: unquote stupid. And I think these guys can be had.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: But to Mike's point, I'm sure that Tennessee said we
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: got our guy for the next several years. They just
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: like Corey last year because A J. Brown is our
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: number one. Now all of a sudden he's gone, you know,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: maybe saying with deep Debo like yeah, it's great to
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: say we got this guy for four years until he's
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: unhappy after two with what he's making or how you're
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: using them, Like Roger from Saint Louis him in a while,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: here's a game of what do you think is more
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: likely one no rookie quarterbacks start Week one, or a
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: defensive player wins MVP. What's more likely? How likely a
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: defensive player wins MVP? Yeah? Right? A team with a
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: losing record wins a division or an entire division makes
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: the playoffs Vision West, a super Bowl rematch from last year,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: or no division winner from last year repeats super Bowl
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: super Bowl rematch. Uh and continuing and aside from Eric
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday, I really don't think there's a Patriots player
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: besides Mac that you get a first rounder from another
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: team in a trade. I don't know if that means
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: anything deeper, but it could also signal a real lack
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: of talent on the roster. I don't you think you're
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: getting the first from I'm not sure you are. I know, uh,
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe after this year you would, Yeah, if
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: he if he has like a step up, But right now,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: this might be a record either on This might be
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: a dumb question. Um, but is it mathematically possible for
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: an entire division to the playoffs? Yes? Yeah, yeah, because
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: they you have the three wild cards on the seven entrance,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: so I mean, obviously I know that there's slots available.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: But obviously, well, if you play each other, like, dude,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: think of it this way. If you play each other
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: and they all go three, Yes, if they all go
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: three and three and then they have a winning record
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: in their remaining games, it's possible. I mean they could
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: already got three losses though, right, so they could all
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: go defeated, all undefeated the word. But I'm just saying
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: like it's mathematically possible for them all to go for
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: fourteen and three. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's right. Question, You're right,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: thank you? Not just saying like from a master is
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: it likely? No? But yeah, okay. Interesting. Let's go to
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: the a sticket hut line eight five five pats five
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: hundred and William and philam, what's up? William? William? I'm sorry,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: just getting my food? I got that people, That's always okay.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: No where are you? Where are you getting the food?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Forgetting a cheese cheese steaks? I'm buddy, I'm buddy, No
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: where are you? What? What? What place are you buying from? Now?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just crossed the street from my job. I'm at
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Popeye Popeyes? O. What do you? What's your go to Popeye?
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: From Popeyes? Just a number two. They give you a biscuit, right,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I love it. I love it. I love Popeyes.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: But I heard y'all talk about by stand. Everybody's talking
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: about this guy. No, we ain't gonna hit this, gonna
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: do that. No, he just he just not. But my
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: question is, can we uh do do y'all want to receiat?
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, don't want to pay for one. Y'all
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: don't want us to rap a first round? So what
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: do we? I mean you don't want one long term?
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't understand what to be doing. You
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: know I want one in the second round. Yeah, I
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: mean I couldn't. I wouldn't cry if they took one
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: in the first round. Like I just I think that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: there's other needs that are probably a little bit bigger
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: that might line up. But first two days, I think
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: you gotta get a receiver. Oh do you know what?
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Do y'all know? Where I got y'all one? One? I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: mean I know probably all y'all want something different. I
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: know who Fred wants well trailing Burks, but I don't
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: know if he's going to be there at he might
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: whatever their second round pick is, well, I'll tell you
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: what he could be there is if you trade it
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: down from the first round. Yeah. Yeah. Christian Watson's another
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: guy that I circled. I mean John Dotson he's another one.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: I mean about background, more guy, more falls guy. He's
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: a George Pickens. I think he's an intriguing guy. Yeah,
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: you're thinking of Khalil Sorry, Sail Shakira Shakira here here,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: But George Pickens is a guy who is intriguing. Mike
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: is right. He's the guy Freddie towards Aco in the spring,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: came back for the stretch drive in the playoffs for Georgia.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Really talented guy. Um plays angry. David Bell is another one,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: although he didn't test great, so the numbers aren't there.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: He's slow. Yeah, he's kind of a Patriots type receiver.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: And I don't say that because he's slow, I mean
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: because he's productive. Um. Yeah, So I think there's a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: lot of different different options. Day two. Yeah, Watson's another one.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot. Uh. I just I think
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: there are options. There are options, and I just like
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: the guys with potential, and you know that you can see,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: all right, this is what they are. But that's I
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: think Pickens is a lot of potential and he got
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit derailed this year. But you know, any
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: I just I would there's not a single receive were like,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know Jamison Williams like absolutely, like give
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: me one of those guys. But again, I just think
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: the defense, you can't play too much attention to the offense.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: The defense really needs a lot more than the offense.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: I think no chance whatsoever that they trade up. I
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: would not say never because I wouldn't say never, no, no,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: because I again to go back to twenty twelve, I
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: think they needed immediate impact guys on the defensive side
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: of the ball. And here's the thing. If you could
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: pick any guy at all in the draft, who would
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: it be? Walker? Really quay Walker, Trayvon Walker from Georgia. Yeah,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: who just you know would do everything I talked about,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Play everywhere up front, play all three downs. You know,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: they move them all around, they stand him up, they
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: put him on the inside on passing downs. He'd set
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: the edge. I mean, he's just about sauce the cornerback. Sure,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: I mean he's not far behind. You know, I don't
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: know if there's a guy for me, I don't and
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: I think you guys make good Those are good, good suggestions.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: What do you think of Hutchinson? Yea, yeah, yeah, see
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: I don't like great player. But that's like talk about
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: a guy I don't think like plays the style that
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: they want. I watched him against Michigan in that game,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: and he would in the Ohio State he disappeared. He
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: was like nowhere to be found or which game we're
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: talking about it? Okay, so that was against Georgia. Georgia,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: he was nowhere to be found. And that's a big time,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: big time component you're going to be playing against big
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: time about now. So yeah, I don't like this. There's
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: something about a lot of these guys that I can
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: make an argument against. And you know, like like Thibadeau
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: is a guy I really I mean, I'm intrigued by
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: watching when I see like I saw him play against
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: Ohio State and he played really well and you're talking
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: him on the screen like you're listening, and then I've
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: seen him disappear completely and I know the knock on
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: him is doesn't play hard all the time, So like,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: do you really want to target a guy like that?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: That's not a shure thing. I don't know. Is that
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: kind of like Chandler Jones. That was the knock on
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: him for a while when he was here. He'd have
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: great stretches and then he'd disappeared for game. He was
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: great in the beginning of the seasons for the Patriots,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: and then he kind of disappeared at the end for
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: some of those early ones. But yeah, I mean, I
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, how many of these drafts, though
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: he spent all this time talking about, I look back
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: at one and you look at the first round and
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: you're like, there is not really any good players in
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: this day. You know, there's a guy here, a guy there,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: But this is going to be one of those drafts.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: You know. Right now you're you're like, well, this guy
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: and everybody. But at the end of the day, not
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: all these guys are gonna hit. And some of these
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: guys are certainly gonna be. But the good players out
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: of this draft they're gonna be. They're gonna be first rounders,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be second rounders, they're gonna be third rounders.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's some drafts, it's just all concentrated
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: at the beginning. I don't think it's gonna be like
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: that for this one. I think they're gonna be some
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: missus because I think there's a lot of confusion and uncertainty. Yeah,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: as to how this board falls, how do you stack
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: it vertically and horizonts as well? Yeah, and put the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks kind embodying that right, like if Pikett and Willis. Now,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: if I had to pick a quarterback, I would be
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: really bummed out. But Willis would be the guy because
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: I think there's there's some upside there. I don't think
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: he's very good. I gotta be honest with you, but
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: I do think that if if I'm a good coach
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: and I can sort of he has stuff that I
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: can't teach the other guys. Yeah, and the other guy
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: and Pickett's got two gloves and pick forget and non
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: start ups like that would worry me. Reno from Knoxville, Tennessee.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: I really don't understand the undying love for Edelman that
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: people think number eleven should be retired. I always been
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: more of a welker guy myself, but I never wanted
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: his jersey retired. Can you explain to me why any
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: number besides twelve should be retired? Why didn't people freak
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: out when someone wore eighty seven, seventy five, eighty one.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: I think will Fork just had just as big of
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: an impact on New England as anyone, by the way,
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: he deserve there's the Hall more than Vrabel in my
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: opinion and Paul's. I'm okay with fifty six being retired
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: for this organization. Yeah, I mean, Andre, great guy. Sure
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: those guys are retired. I think he's talking about guys
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: from from here on in. So you know, based on
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: what we've seen, twelve is the only one in his mind.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. My bar is you have to
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: be you have to be a like like one of
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: like the best players of all time at your position
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: for you to get your number retired. Twelve, fifty six,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: seventy three. Yes, I'm fine with those others. I'm just
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: for all for numbers being back in. Like I think
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: is that's why we have I think it's more a
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: tribute to watch someone new were a number than to
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: just never see that number again. Now Brady is braid
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: that's twelve. Yeah, I'd put everything else back into rotation.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I I'd love to see a new fifty six.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: I think that does more to honor Andre Tippett to
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: see another fifty six out there and talk about him.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Then well, like you know, you have the whole of again,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: get it. I getta agree with Mike, because that's what
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: it always happens. Yeah, I mean it's I think it's
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: a very small universe of numbers that should be you know,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: maybe a year or two reprieve like, oh hey that
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: was great for a little bit for a year, right,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: But I agree with you, and this is something I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: think the college game has over the pros. There are
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: different college programs that have special numbers forty four Syracuse,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: eighteen at LSU, fifty five at US and it's you
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: know Jim Brown, Floyd Little, and you know all all
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: the different guys and you know Junior saying Willie McGinnis.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: And I think that there becomes a special meaning to
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: the number within that program, and everybody who participates in
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: that program and is a part of it understands it, right,
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: And certainly the fans that follow those programs closely know
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: those numbers. I think that's the way to do it,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: and I agree with Mike. I think it would be
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: great if you had the opportunity for another like Edge,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: you know, rushing monster to wear fifty six and be
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: like Andre Tippett. And I think that the pros don't
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: do that as much, and I think that that would
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: That's one thing I think the college game has that.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's kind of neat the way they do that. Well,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of them that you don't even knowledge
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: that they'll have a hundred people on the team at
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: one time, So they kind of need the numbers, right,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: they can't really afford to retire a lot of jerseys. Well,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: they also they also have double numbers, right, but like
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: they have the thing at LSU where they have the
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: famous walk on is number twelve, the twelfth Man, and
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: that means something to that program. It's an honor to
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: wear that number. Must mean something to the player too.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's an honor. Yeah, it's like talking about
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: who's fifty Vabel, you know, to see Nikovich then have
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: some success in that. The Patriots made a mistake early
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: on in their existence is starting to retire numbers before
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: anyone was really worthy. And now they're stuck. They should
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: just have a seven. Stuck. You have a ceremony, and
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell these guys, we're on retiring your numbers. Ye,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: but you painted as the angle of we're gonna have
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: a ceremony rehonoring you, and we're gonna put these numbers
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: back as a way and maybe do what the what
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: you know what ring of honor that kind of Yeah,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: you know, put then you have them up. You have
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: a Hall of fame, but have fame. That's that's I mean,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: like it's better than a ring of honor. You have
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: an entire building dedicated to the greatness of those players. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: maybe when next time they do in New Jersey, that
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: could be, you know, a good opportunity to reintroduce some
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: of those numbers. I'd like a ceremony where they actually
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: hand it off its entire who's getting I'm giving giving
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: you the shirt off my back. So so, knowing that
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: they have a Hall of Fame and they have retired numbers,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: do you believe that whatever they do for Brady has
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: to be different than that? I mean, I think twelve
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: twelve is I would get on board with that one.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: Just being untouchable. I mean, the guys the greatest, but
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: they have other numbers that are untouchable. So he's now
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: in the category with any number of guys who don't
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: have that many super He's got his own. He's got
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: his own. So what I'm saying is you need to
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: do something to differentiate Brady from everybody else. Put everybody
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: else's back in circulation and then just take that. That's
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: what makes it different. You could do that, right, and
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: there's only one number that's retired and that's it. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: And unless you rise to his level in the future,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: you don't get your number of retired. Are they gonna
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: have to like red the hall for him? They'll probably
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: have ably the Brady Room. Yeah, So I don't know, Uh,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: other people will worry about that. Uh. Connor a cousin,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Patty and agawam my eyes. Fair warning to all of
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: you guys. This public service message. I'm in. I'm the
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: refrigeration technician for PEPSI out in Hartford. One of my
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: primary jobs is cleaning ice machines. That's actually what I'm
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: currently doing. Never ever, ever ever get ice from an
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: ice machine. What kind of ice machines, like one of
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: those you know machines. I'm just like those different kind
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: of ice machines, are you I don't really you mean
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: like at a like at a fast food place or
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: a restaurant, whether you have like okay, all right, yeah,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: I was just I was just like thinking like something
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: like we have a machine here at the stadium that
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: the ice is never there. Um. But I was trying
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: to think, like where would you get your own ice machines?
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: Like are you saying, like on at a restaurant when
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: you go out, you shouldn't get ice. I think he
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: means like a like a McDonald's or a Panera or
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those places where you have the
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: vending machines self serve kind of machines and you found Yeah, yeah,
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't really do that, um very much. Isn't that
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: where you get the shaved ice though? Isn't it normally
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: what they have? Isn't that kind of like my refrigeent
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: rater at home is where I get my crushed ice?
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Oh you have a crushed ice? Oh? Really? Because I
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: just make the blocks in the you don't crush I
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: don't have one of those refrigerators like hau block out.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: When it's like the old right, I guess from the
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: ground Providence. This guy's walking very quick. It's hot. The
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: guy comes in with the you know the big right
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Eric Chips, some off, um Mike and Maryland. Right, San Fred,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: I was a little disappointed that a lacrosse enthusiast like
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: yourself didn't bring up the best or most iconic lacrosse
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: athletes a few shows back. Um, so Brown would be
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: one of them. Right well, he says, Let's compare Fred's
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: choices to the other esteem hosts and run through. Um
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: he has most icon of college player. I mean you
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: mentioned Jim Brown, you know, I mean Gary Gate gave
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: another guy, you know, yeah, remember the brothers, the Powell brothers.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean so out now, Yeah, that's it. Yeah,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: the brothers and that's all. Yeah, I mean but Jim Brown,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: they had to change the rules, put it over his
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: chest everybody. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know technically if
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: he was like the greatest, you know Gate, I mean
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: those that whole family has done amazing things. This is
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: the players now. Every year of the like new kids
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: that come up and they just seem to get better
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: and better. Oh no, there's this kid, um, oh what's
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: his name? He probably this this person from Maryland's writing
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: in I think he played at Maryland. Um Soldenburger or
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: something like that. He was a great player and now
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: he's going to try out for the NFL. Oh really, yeah,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: thats what position. I think wide receivers that good an
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: athlete really, Okay, So I don't I would forget about
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel that that's that's the guy we got to
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: look out for, right, I think it's Soldenberg or something
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: like that. Question for the uh Shellenberg. I don't know
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: the lacrosse expert on the panel here today? Why is
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: it the mid Atlantic States are known so much for lacrosse? Yeah,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: it's a great and Long Island, it's a great question. Um, well,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: long Island, long Pole. That makes a little sense, right, No,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess for whatever reason, you know, John
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: Hopkins and all those schools right down there, that's kind
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: of the cradle of lacrosse in America, in the United
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: so to speak, in the United But I wonder why,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: how did it? How did it develop? I don't know,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: it always was, and that's it feels like it's a
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: lot more popular now because I mean, I know for
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: me growing up, you know, around the corner in Holliston,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: like they didn't have lacrosse at my high school when
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I was there, and then when I went to prep school,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, I really want to try it. But
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: now they have it. I mean it's across everywhere. Yeah,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: it was very It was always popular at the prep schools. Oh,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: they always had. But I don't get it's why, because
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: it's definitely like a rich, rich man's sport. Like that's
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: how it sort of developed, and that's what it's the
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: the England prep schools and that mid Atlantic order, yeah,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: which is obviously very affluent there or yeah, but why
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: yeah that was always in Long Island. Long Island another
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: affluent area. Yeah, for the most part. And then you know,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: you could make a for Northern New York, like Upper
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: State New York has always been a hotbed for lacrosse
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: as well. And you can say, well, that's because they're
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: close to Candidas where Hobart is Hobart, all the Cornell
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: and all those schools. It was a Canadian sport originally, right,
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's their net. Everyone thinks hockey is the national sport.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: They have two Lacrosse is there other way? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: it's funny than there's also like box lacrosse, which I
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: think was like, oh, that's a whole different it's a
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: whole different thing. But players love playing box lacrosse. Well
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Adam Adam oates famous Bruins center. Um, but yeah, he
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: was a big center. Sounds like Paul picked up a
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: little of covid down smoke us cough. Can a guy
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: get a light, he's getting a cuban. It's gonna be
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: talking out of his throat soon. Oh that's not that's awful.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I know. But you know, don't smoke. He doesn't. You know.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: I was on a plane, on the Jeff Blue plane.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: I'm amazed that they still build the planes with ashtrays
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: and yet they cover them in no small king. I'm like,
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: why do you just and they still have the light
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: that says no smoking. I think we're all this point.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: I think we all know. It's like Paul in the cap.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: I think we're all adults here. We know we're not
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: smoking on a plane anymore. We don't. But why are
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: you putting the ash trays too? Just in case? It's
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: like driving flight like light everybody's light out time. They
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: don't have to sign somebody like okay, why smoking? Maybe
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: I got him know that's you're not you're not smoking
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: these days are never smoked the day in my life.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Not even a puff, all right, you know that, I know,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I know. So I did have an interesting story. Oh okay,
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: story time with I'm soaking it up in the hot
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: tub with my soul mate. Um. One of the first
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: it was like Sunday night. We are getting black um stokes.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: So we're hanging out. It's kind of late, just kids
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: are all running the market. It was. It was great,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: great time. So I'm We're in the hot top and
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: this guy is there, huge super Bowl ring on his hand.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: Now it was one of ours. No, it wasn't. No, Um,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was clearly not a player. He was
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: an older guy, you know, so it was clearly a
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: situation like us. Yeah, you know, just someone who works
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: for a team. So I looked and I was like, hey,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: is that a championship ring. He goes, yeah, it's a
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: super Bowl ring. And I said, oh wow, it's pretty cool. Yeah,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: he had it in the hot hands. I was like, wait,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I got a bunch of them. So and you know
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: that I never I never do. Yeah, that's part of
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: the that's a good part of the story. So he's like, yeah,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: he goes, it's a Super Bowl ring and I said, oh,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: that's really cool. I go, I have six of them,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: and he goes, so do I He worked for Pittsburgh
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: and I just gave it. That's awesome. Wow, Beth is
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: just cracking up. He was an accountant for Pittsburgh. He
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: retired like two years ago. Wow, that is that's a
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: great story. But he was. He was really good, really
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: nice guy. He goes, yeah, he goes, I just decided
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: to put it on today. And I'm thinking to myself,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: I've never had any of them on ever, you know,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: for any reason, like other than just to show people, right,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't even imagine that he had it on
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: in a hot tub. I know, right, I think ours
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: are nicer. I mean, yeah, I kind of think that.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: But he was. He clearly was working there in the
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: seventies obviously. Was he a single guy? Was he putting
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: out the vibe? Maybe that was? Yeah, opener, Yeah, Well
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: the only thing I have, um let's see Nate is
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: in Northeast Pennsylvania. Wonderful offseason discussions so far. Thanks for
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: the content. I've been listening for about five years now,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: and when I was new to the show, I distinctly
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: remember someone calling in saying that your best shows come
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: in the off season. At the time, I found that
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: hard to believe, considering I was turning in to hear
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: all things Patriots. But that caller was right. Some of
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: the most memorable stuff from you guys comes in the
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: off season. So forget about that weirdo last week who
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: was all pissy about non Patriots talk. People have really
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: rallied to our defense. That's what they had a problem with.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: A non killed us. Yeah, you guys stank'd you'd be
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: working at Jimmy Lube if you want, you know, if
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: you didn't work if if we so, if we didn't
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: get the jobs that we got, right, Yeah, it was
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: somebody who's never that's great, that's a great comeback. It
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: was somebody who's never written in the show. But I
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: don't remember recognize the name at all. I might have recognized,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: but it's all right, I don't I don't care. He said,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't read it. I read a podcast. You'd be
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: working at Jiffy Lube, right, But that that implies that
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: we're not talented enough to have a podcast. The team
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: that has won six Super Bowls can hire anybody they want.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: To do this podcast, and they chose Fred. So I
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: don't think that Fred would be working at Jiffy Lube
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: if he didn't do this. That's how I separated myself. Yes,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: maybe Speedy Lube. I don't know. If I did Jiffy Lube,
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I would try to be really honest about it, because
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: I've gotten hosed at Jiffy Lube a couple of times. Yeah,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: I just say, I'm not going to try to tell
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: you that you're connectic zoint needs to be fixed for
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars. Oh yeah, you know, let's charge it.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Or they forget to screw things back. They forgot to
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: screw something back, and then you got to come back in.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: And that I've heard they do a lot, really because
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: I used to go there a little bit and I
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: won't anymore because of that. I heard that they intentionally
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: do something when they're changing your oil. If you're just
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: going for then you have to go back. That's happened
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: to me, not at Jiffy Loube, but it just mechanics
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: in general. I've had that happened so many times, like
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: a week later, I have to go back for I
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: just hate dishonesty in general. You know, like just treat us.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: You know, I think in life, if you find a
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: mechanic that you trust, yeah, like it is worth its weight. Absolutely.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: You are just in a contract. You gotta have a Mac. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: a Mac and a front with truck too. So just
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: out of curiosity and about um, what was some of
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: the what were you guys talking about? You want to
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: hear him now we were talking. We're talking about a
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: lot of grammar and a lot of different other sports. Yeah.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: So I was involved in one of the grammar days. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: I take pride in that. No, no, but it was
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: one of these hardos that it's like you must talk
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: team and football twenty four seven all the time, talk Patriots.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: It's not like we didn't tin it was day when
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: there's nothing. I threw it out. What are you? What
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: are you binging? Yeah? What we're talking about? So people
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: were calling in about what they're watching, and you know,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: he took offense at that, because you know, I think
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: he took more offense Paul at the fact that we
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: never read any of his emails and that we always
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: read other people's emails. And you know, if you write
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: it in a good email, I get read fifty emails here.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get to them all. Sorry, So
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get forty five negative emails next show, right?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Um uh? Continuing with Nate's email, because so far it's
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: so good. Speaking of that, you mentioned in your response
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: to that guy that you've been doing this show for
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: twenty two years. Perhaps a good offseason topic a little
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: history of Patriots Unfiltered. This may come off as a
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: dumb question, but how did you broadcast this radio show before?
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com slash podcast apps would love to hear
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: more PU history. And lastly, a few grammar word pet piece.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: One burnt toast verse burned toast. In my opinion, burnt
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: with a T, which is recognized as a word, is
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: just the slang ain't version of the word burned, So
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: burnt is slang in his opinion? In his opinion, yeah,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: I don't, but I don't think I think that's an
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: acceptable form of the word. Burnt toast seems like a
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: state of the toast, where burnt toast means Kanye you
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: did it, like I don't. Yeah, yeah, he didn't burnt him,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: but after he got burnt, he was burned off. Might
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: it might be? But but you could also say he
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: was burned. Your one could be an adjective, and one's
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: the you know, verb tense. I don't know. That's a
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: good one though, that's dangles dans and his other one
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: is corporate over usage of the word leverage. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: we're leveraging our plus up, I'm over leveraged. Bonus. Fun fact.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: Did you know slang is slang for shortened language? No?
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: I did not. I did not know that. Very good.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: That's an excellent Yeah, I didn't know that either. Shortened language. Funny,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: I like it. Oh. There was another sharp term on
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: the radio this morning when a ref w yes, when
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: a ref has influenced on the game going in, you know,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: like because of his style, or that's a wrangle, a
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: referee angle to the game, A wrangle has a referee.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, any wrangles And they said in both
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: Celtics games, I would say the wrangle is a very
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, people can correct me that that are into
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: uh betting a lot more than I am. But I
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: would say the wrangle is not really real. I think
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: that's something that coincidental. No, I'm saying it's people that
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: get beat and they blame it on you know what
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But there was an excuse. Yeah, I don't
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: want it's an excuse for losing. We already taught Celtics.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: But Ian is in more of a predicament. He says,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: I am literally on the way to Jiffy lou right now.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: He says, he's turning around. It's just amazing. No matter
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: what we bring up, somebody knows it or is doing
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: it or has done it. You know, well I I
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: you know, if you need your oil change, you got
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: to get your oil change. I mean it's a great
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: business idea. Everybody is such a pain in the butt
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: thing to get your car's oil change. It's great to
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: prolong the life of the car. And they but I
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: like my small town guy who my neighbor. My neighbor
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: owns his own UH garage and it's very you know,
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: he's done very well for himself with it. And I
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: if I have something little like that, then I need
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: done on the quick. He's right down the street. He
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: takes here of me all the time. It's you're driving
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: a SOB. I am two hundred and thirty four thousand
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: miles right, Yeah, a commercial. They should retire York car
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: put in the Hall of Fame. There are some sobs
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: that have that have gone like, uh because the mechanic
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: at the old dealership, uh, that no longer exists. He
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: would take a lot of the old ones and tinker
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: with them and fix them up and keep him going.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: His record was like five hundred thousand miles. I think,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: on wow, that's quite a SOB story. Oh but that
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  Speaker 1: was good. I like that. Eric can't do anything, but sir,
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  Speaker 1: well done to you, sir. Yeah, thirty four. With the
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  Speaker 1: miles I'm putting on my car, I'll get up there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting like over thirty thousand a year. Now, what
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: are you driving, Lexus Ux? Do you like it? Yeah?
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: It's a hybrid so at least. But my next guy,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: I think, is gonna be an electric truck, electric pick up.
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  Speaker 1: If I can figure out how to pay what what bank,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna rob to get it. But you should have
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: seen the gas prices. Oh, what's like seven eight dollars?
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  Speaker 1: Six at least six? Ye everywhere that's crazy. They're going
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  Speaker 1: down a little bit. Yeah, it was under four. Question
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  Speaker 1: for the guys who weren't here there, have you ever
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: heard it? Maybe you were here, but I think you're
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  Speaker 1: already gone. A vocal fry is that what it was called?
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  Speaker 1: You've never heard a vocal fry from la. I'm surprised.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know what else. I don't know what it
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  Speaker 1: was either. And they were everyone who was jumping down
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  Speaker 1: my throat, you know, people at the end, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my name is Mary and that's that's a vocal fry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. It's like one of
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  Speaker 1: the worst effects. You know, dogs that would be an
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  Speaker 1: example of it. Yes, so your voice is like two
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  Speaker 1: weak to actually, yeah, like at the end you just trail,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And the Kardashians were famous for it and
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: somebody who but somebody said they sing and ask everything
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: like a question. Yeah. They up talk as well, which
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: it's called up talking. I hate that, but some of
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: the worst developments in history. Yeah, the up the up talking.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot take anybody seriously that talks like I know
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: and everybody talks like so, I'm gonna be going to
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: New York. There lives Mike to Lemmo. Are you asking
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: me if you're going to New York? Are you going
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: to New York? I think I'm asking I'm going to
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, it's not becoming. It's not becoming unbecoming.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: I just want to be becoming. You want to become
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: my goal. You want to becoming all the good thing.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Next Tuesday. I had a couple today that I had
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: in minds, and I said, probably about the right time.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: We'll have to work her in and get her dec
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: in size. Based on her reaction to the accent of yeah,
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: good luck, I'm telling you, there was a look of
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: fear on her face, and it's like, I want to
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: alleviate that fear. I get it, you're right, but she
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: it's obvious she had brushed up on a little draft stuff.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: I told her to get ready. Yeah, oh it is
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: a week away. Yeah, she's, she's, she's she's smart. Cookie.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: It's hard. I always had so much respect from Megan,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: just because she didn't grow up around here, and she
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: has to go toe to tell with a bunch of idiots.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: So you can say the ninety two Patriots and you
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: know exactly what you're talking about, and somebody she's a
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: little off too, in a good way. Oh yeah, mean
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: three oh six, yea impressive. I know she was disappointed
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: because she wanted to break three. But that marathon, Yeah
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: she ran in Boston. Yeah, oh I didn't know that. Yeah,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: three or six? No, I just don't go on social media.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: I just thought she was ducking me because I went
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: to Orlando when she left the Orlando to come to Boston.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: So I think it was pretty obvious. I want to
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: get yelled at by me anymore. Justin and Alabama, welcome back,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: Mike and Paul. I agree, let's bring back the retired jerseys.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: It would be an honor for the player to wear
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: numbers like fifty six and seventy three, but let's leave
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: twelve retired. What do we do with sweatshirts with cut
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: off sleeves? Do we let future coaches wear classic sweatshirt?
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: Look of the greatest coach of all time? Have to
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: worry about that? Yeah, put your sleeves back on. And
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, my last name is England, but I
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: am from Alabama, but been a Patriots fan a long time.
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: Because I said, it is it Justine or just In England?
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: So it's just In England from Alabama, from Alabama, England,
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: and take a cup. If I could talk, We'll take
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of quick calls. Get him off because we're
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: coming up to the end. We'll start with you guys.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: But Seawan in New Jersey. What's up with Sean? But
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: Sean still there? Oh that's a shame. He was on
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: me hanging out for like half an hour. Eldred's in
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hey, Eldred, Eldred name of the day. Well,
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: already had quite a day today, about eleven. We had
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: about four of those, right, yeah, yeah, all right, Well listen.
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  Speaker 1: That's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.
• 1:57:14
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• 1:57:17
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• 1:57:21
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• 1:57:23
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• 1:57:26
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• 1:57:29
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