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Licking the Iceberg (feat. JP Brammer) · Like a Virgin

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Speaker 1: Oh no. Our producer Phoebe is saying that Phoebe was
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Speaker 1: hit on this weekend by straight Man and it is
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Speaker 1: still viscerally haunting me. Oh my god, I'm so sorry
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Speaker 1: that happened to you by you by mood like, no,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get sued again. We need to stop singing, babe,
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Speaker 1: just we numbers like as your friend, as your friend,
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Speaker 1: like you to stop, and I'm not. This is the
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Speaker 1: part of the show where I would be singing the
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Speaker 1: Sailor Moon themes an intro to this episode. He's gonna
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Speaker 1: include this thing. But but Fran and our producer Phoebe
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Speaker 1: are both giving me death stairs as I attempt to
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Speaker 1: sing the Sailor Moon themes. You're not getting it because
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Speaker 1: art isn't being appreciated. Art should be censored, just like
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Speaker 1: Sailor Man and um. But today we are talking about
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Speaker 1: anime with J. P. Brammer, because this is like a
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Speaker 1: Virgin the show where we give yesterday's pop culture today's fakes.
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Speaker 1: I'm Rose damn you, and I'm Fran Toronto. Today. Our
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Speaker 1: guest is JP Brammer, a good Judy of ours, incredible
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Speaker 1: author of the advice column Ola Poppy, which also is
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Speaker 1: a book Amazing Visual Artists expert et truly the person
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Speaker 1: in my phone who absolutely knows the most about anime
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Speaker 1: um so thank god we have him here to pop
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Speaker 1: our cherries kinda and tell us what pokemon we are. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I was just watching a TikTok where this person was
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Speaker 1: talking about how they have multiple fan fiction accounts and
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Speaker 1: on one of them they faked their own death so
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to keep updating a story queen, which
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Speaker 1: I love. Like, that's the level of like boredom I
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Speaker 1: get to where I've picked up a hobby or something.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore and would love
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Speaker 1: to be able to fake my own death to get
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Speaker 1: out of it. Like if I could fake my own
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Speaker 1: death to get out of doing this podcast, it's only
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Speaker 1: a matter of time before you do. Oh wait, speaking
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Speaker 1: of faking your own death, do you know what I
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Speaker 1: did this Friday? Friday? I went and saw the national
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Speaker 1: tour of Wicked, the musical The Untold Story of the
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Speaker 1: Witches of Oz. I saw it at the seracer strum
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Speaker 1: Um Center for the Arts in Coasta, Mesa, from California.
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Speaker 1: My friend said, L O L. Look the Wicked National
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Speaker 1: tour is coming to sort of near l A. And
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Speaker 1: I like texted back a screenshot of the receipt of
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Speaker 1: me having bought the tickets. You know, it was like
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Speaker 1: you thought you were you were joking. No, this is
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Speaker 1: this is happening, Baba. No, it's never a joke when
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Speaker 1: it comes to Wicked with you. So it took two
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Speaker 1: hours each way to get there. God, and we had
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Speaker 1: reservations to go to dinner at this place which had
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Speaker 1: a Wicked themed cocktail came with little witch hots. We
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Speaker 1: asked the waiter. He's like, I don't know, it's like
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Speaker 1: something witchy. Was it called the Wickedly Talented Adele disease?
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Speaker 1: Doesn't know it was not, unfortunately, um, but we like,
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Speaker 1: this is so humiliating. We were late for the show.
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Speaker 1: It took so long to get in. I never and
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Speaker 1: Fran you know how I feel about lateness and about
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Speaker 1: being on time. Rose is the most punctual girl you
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Speaker 1: have ever met, And like, this is the thing. The
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Speaker 1: whole trauma around being late for me and why I'm
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Speaker 1: so dramatically early to everything is that I grew up
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Speaker 1: with parents who were always late, and I hated being
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Speaker 1: late for things, and so it conditioned me to always
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Speaker 1: want to be early. So now when I'm forced into
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Speaker 1: a scenario in which I am late against my will,
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Speaker 1: I am furious. And then okay, so then the show
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Speaker 1: starts at seventh pty and like by the time we
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Speaker 1: actually get to the door to go in the theater,
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Speaker 1: like our door to enter, it's only seven. And most plays,
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Speaker 1: you know, I would say, there's a couple of minute
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Speaker 1: grace period, but we get we get upstairs. Yeah, plays
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Speaker 1: do not start exactly on. Ushers have no grace you this.
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Speaker 1: Ushers are the most judgmental people on the planet. And
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Speaker 1: let me tell you, I used to be an usher.
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Speaker 1: Did you know this? I did not know that. My
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Speaker 1: my mom used to take me and my family like
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Speaker 1: all the time. We would be volunteer ushers for Chicago's
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Speaker 1: production of Blue Man Group. And we because my mom
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Speaker 1: loved Blue Man Group, loved and what so did we
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Speaker 1: ask the family and so it was like this Blue
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Speaker 1: Man Group path her like moral check checklists. Yeah, I suppose, so,
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Speaker 1: I mean there are some you know, it feels a
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Speaker 1: little satanic, because it's a little satanic for sure. Also,
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Speaker 1: like those those Blue Men, we're fucking each other with
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Speaker 1: their Blue Dick sucking the house down boots, but like,
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Speaker 1: should we do a Blue Man Group episode? And no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we shouldn't we. Sorry, I'm overwriting. There's nothing to discuss
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Speaker 1: about that show other than the fact that we were
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Speaker 1: required to wear white button downs and black slacks which
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Speaker 1: we bought from Coals, which makes no sense because we
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Speaker 1: were too cheap to afford actual Bluemn tickets. I'm pretty
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Speaker 1: sure we went back and slab Bluemen Group as a
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Speaker 1: family as ushers for free, like six times. Um. Well,
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Speaker 1: this performance of Wicked the Musical was mostly okay. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's a touring production, so everything's a little jan kie.
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Speaker 1: It was performed at about one point five time speed,
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Speaker 1: like they really wanted to get through the show. The
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Speaker 1: performances were like buried across the board. Glinda was fine,
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Speaker 1: Fierro was very good and very hot. Alphaba was kind
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Speaker 1: of a snooze until no good Deed which she ate
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Speaker 1: or Madam Morrible fucking sucked. Yeah. Oh, actually, the girl
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Speaker 1: who was Nesta Rose was great and it reminded me
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Speaker 1: that I really hope we get an extended edition of Wicked.
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Speaker 1: Witch of the East in the movie, which TBD on
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Speaker 1: whether or not that ever actually happens. Well, I didn't
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Speaker 1: have as eventful of a weekend as you did. Um
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Speaker 1: you went to go see wid I went to Mexico
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Speaker 1: to hang out at a gay nude beach, and the
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Speaker 1: last day of my vacation, my phone completely died. And
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Speaker 1: you know now I'm phoneless and well, I'm hungover from
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Speaker 1: food poisoning as well. I woke up three am with
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Speaker 1: violent food poisoning. But at least I have got a
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Speaker 1: great hand. You know, it could cure your food poisoning,
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Speaker 1: or at least make you feel better. The New Florence
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Speaker 1: in the Machine song King, which I have you listened to?
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Speaker 1: You yet? Know that in Mexico zero like no service,
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Speaker 1: very bad WiFi for most of the trips. So I'm
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Speaker 1: very gratefully out of touch with reality. Unfortunately, did make
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Speaker 1: me miss some New Florence. Did you like the song?
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Speaker 1: I love it, It's so good. I I don't know
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Speaker 1: if we've talked about her at length on this podcast before,
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Speaker 1: but I am a Florence in the Machine stand and
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Speaker 1: I am so happy that mother has returned. Although she
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Speaker 1: in the song says she's not a mother, She's not
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Speaker 1: a Bride She's King, which period amazing song, such a
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Speaker 1: good video like video is very clearly referencing Hereditary meets
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Speaker 1: Suspiria with like a hocus Pocus look, like she's literally
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Speaker 1: wearing Sarah Jessica Parker's look from hocus Pocus. She's back.
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Speaker 1: She's booked at a bunch of festivals this summer. Does
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Speaker 1: that mean an album is coming? Yeah, an album's coming.
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Speaker 1: You know that. I don't go see live music, but
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Speaker 1: I absolutely will be going to see her because I've
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Speaker 1: seen her now for every era and she's the only
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Speaker 1: artist that I actually feel like I need to see
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Speaker 1: in concert because the live experience is transcendent. Possibly because
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Speaker 1: the the first time I ever did acid was out
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Speaker 1: of Florence the Machine concert. But yeah, I love her.
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Speaker 1: I have like a very intense spiritual connection to Florence,
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Speaker 1: and I'm so excited for new music. I'm a huge
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Speaker 1: Florence fan. I only I saw her once at as
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Speaker 1: the only homosexual and at a concert in Indianapolis, and
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Speaker 1: I remember it was on the fourth of July and
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Speaker 1: she qued fireworks to go off right at the second
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Speaker 1: Bridge um over. It was incredible her so much I'll
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Speaker 1: go and listen to King watch the video. Okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: watch this video. Also a video that you missed is um,
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Speaker 1: do you know who Analyn McCord is? Yes, speaking of mothers?
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Speaker 1: I did, unfortunately see this. Okay, so this is a analyne.
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Speaker 1: McCord is an actress who I really only know from
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Speaker 1: the short lived nine to Want Oh reboot along with
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Speaker 1: all of us that came out post Gossip Girl. So
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Speaker 1: cut for context. I don't know if all of you
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Speaker 1: listening to this note, but there's a war happening right now,
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Speaker 1: which I think is a topic that this podcast will
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Speaker 1: not dive into. Absolutely not qualified to him any meaningful
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Speaker 1: commentary on it, is deeply unfunny, is deepitely not something
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Speaker 1: to commentate on, especially from people in America that have
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Speaker 1: no experience in foreign affairs reporting. But one thing I
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Speaker 1: do feel comfortable commenting on it is Annelyine McCord's video
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Speaker 1: about how she wishes she were Vladimir Putin's mother so
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Speaker 1: that she would have loved him enough that he never
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Speaker 1: would have invaded Ukraine, which I think was a really
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Speaker 1: great lesson to everyone else who will now bear witness
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Speaker 1: to a literal war that we just we don't need
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Speaker 1: anybody's too say, we don't need takes. Like I'm just
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Speaker 1: waiting for all of the fashion influencers to who I followed,
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Speaker 1: to be like, let's put together an out to go
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Speaker 1: fight World War three. You know. Like there's this girl
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Speaker 1: I follow who I don't know if this is your algorithm.
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Speaker 1: Her name is Sammy. She's this British girl and her
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Speaker 1: thing is she goes, let's get dressed, and then she
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Speaker 1: proceeds to put together these like kind of ugly outfits,
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Speaker 1: but like they're very expensive, and she has like literally
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Speaker 1: every designer handbag that's ever been made, and she has
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Speaker 1: reached this point of like ubiquity that my mom, who's
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Speaker 1: on TikTok, was like, do you do you do you
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Speaker 1: follow the let's get dressed girl? And I was like, yeah, obviously, mom, Okay,
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Speaker 1: it has to be set. The fact that Pangina was eliminated,
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Speaker 1: I babe, not Manilla Hydra and should be scared for
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Speaker 1: her life life. Oh my god, I'm so worried. I
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Speaker 1: truly don't think we have ever seen a queen react
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Speaker 1: to being eliminated like Pangina did, because like that's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Not only were we all gooped and gagged, but like
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Speaker 1: usually the queens are able to pull it together enough
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Speaker 1: to leave the stage with Grace. Not Pangina, because she
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Speaker 1: did not think she was going home. She thought she
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Speaker 1: was making it to the end. And when she was
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Speaker 1: talking about her country and how like apologizing for shaming
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Speaker 1: them devastating. They have to bring her back. They have
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Speaker 1: to bring her back. I will say, the most haunting
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Speaker 1: exit from drag Race since sobbing off stage as they're
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Speaker 1: all there and I'm sure there's so much more sobbing
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Speaker 1: that was cut, Like I'm sure like part of that
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Speaker 1: is like editing. No, No, I don't think. I don't
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Speaker 1: think they would have left it. I think they turned
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Speaker 1: they turned her mike up one of the producers in
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Speaker 1: the back, like bump, bump, Pangina. That was ugly crying.
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Speaker 1: That was not ugly crying. That's like me in my
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Speaker 1: car between the Taco bell, Haywin dough and the window
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Speaker 1: where you get your food, ugly crying, hoping that neither
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Speaker 1: of the people can hear me. I have never like
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Speaker 1: seen Rue so genuinely shocked. I've never seen Michelle express
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Speaker 1: empathy in that way before. I've never seen like a
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Speaker 1: queen that's so deserved to be there, Like it was
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Speaker 1: such an absolute miscalculation on Blues part. Like I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out, like how to decipher like the difference
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Speaker 1: between like what Naomi Smalls did to Manila and what
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Speaker 1: is happening here. But it's the same thing. It's they
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Speaker 1: want to win the only they're actually playing the game.
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Speaker 1: They want to take out the competition. The slight difference,
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Speaker 1: honestly is that you need to stick the landing. Because
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Speaker 1: Naomi got on that next episode, she goes, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: did it, like what she was kind of serving and
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Speaker 1: that I do see a scenario in which Blue is like,
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Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't know. I feel so bad
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Speaker 1: that I bet he regrets. It's so hard. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out this one. I also want
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Speaker 1: to know the other queen, who's whose lipstick they had.
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Speaker 1: I think Baga also eliminated Panchina, which is why it
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Speaker 1: was such a twist because I felt that Baga won
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Speaker 1: that lip sync personally, and I fucking hate Baga, Like
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Speaker 1: I disgusting to be eliminated. She should be eliminated on
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Speaker 1: get that Baga off the screen. I'm not of not
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Speaker 1: watching that a lazy, talentless piece of ship. No, she's
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Speaker 1: not talentless. Like her snatch game was phenomen but like she,
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Speaker 1: I felt she won. This was it. Though I thought
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Speaker 1: it was kind of boring, I think that it was.
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Speaker 1: It was all very like the same thing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: a snatch game is like over time and time again
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Speaker 1: completely And I didn't laughing her. I I giggled. I
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Speaker 1: felt that she did the best out of the group.
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Speaker 1: And I felt that Baga, even though her style of
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Speaker 1: lip syncing is so lazy like drunk woman and at
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Speaker 1: a bar in Manchester or whatever, it still was wildly
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Speaker 1: or entertaining than whatever the funk Blue did. And I
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Speaker 1: thought they were both. They were both horrible. That's that's
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Speaker 1: what I should say, is they're both horrible. But I felt, well,
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Speaker 1: that's I think what was gonna eliminate was going to
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Speaker 1: eliminate Pangina, So for Blue to eliminate just I wonder
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Speaker 1: if like the bad lip syncing on UK versus the
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Speaker 1: World is like somewhat a product of like not having
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Speaker 1: the fear of being sent home in you to make
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Speaker 1: you do better. But then again, the lip syncs on
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Speaker 1: regular Drag Race where they could be going home. Have
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Speaker 1: not been great either, Yeah, they really have not. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being here today. I am so happy to
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Speaker 1: be here. Above being a content creator, I am a
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Speaker 1: content consumer. So I'm very excited to discuss some anime
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Speaker 1: with you today. Yes, because you know, last mer I
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Speaker 1: texted you and said, I really want to get more
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Speaker 1: into anime. What should I watch? And what did you
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Speaker 1: tell me? Um? Well, I said Hunter x Hunter. I
15:10
Speaker 1: said full mettal Alchemist. I said Avatar, which it's hotly
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Speaker 1: debated if that's anime or not. You know, purists will say,
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Speaker 1: purists will say it's not. Um but anime is kind
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Speaker 1: of a state of mind at the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: So if you feel like it's anime, it's anime. Um
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Speaker 1: And I remember telling you to stick with Avatar because
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Speaker 1: you're like, this is for children. Yeah, the first couple
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Speaker 1: of episodes, the first couple episodes are a little rough
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Speaker 1: and like very childish, and then it just gets so
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Speaker 1: real and so good, very adult fast. Yeah, very quickly. Yes,
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Speaker 1: But but ultimately you told me to watch Neon Genesis
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Speaker 1: Evan Gillian and I did watch. I did, and really
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Speaker 1: liked it. It's you know, like a show about huge
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Speaker 1: robots that take over the planet. Yeah, and it's very gorgeous. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's the premise give us a t LDR, My god,
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Speaker 1: the premise, okay, as if you could give a t
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Speaker 1: LDR any any like large scale anime that has the
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Speaker 1: most intricate lots ever. M Evan Gelian follows the journey
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Speaker 1: of Shinji, who is a young boy living in what's
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Speaker 1: called Tokyo three. So something called Second Impact has already
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Speaker 1: happened and wiped out half of humanity. The remainder of
16:20
Speaker 1: humanity is sort of living underground in Tokyo three, and
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Speaker 1: Shinji gets selected by his father to pilot an ava
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Speaker 1: or an Evan Gelian, and this is something that is
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Speaker 1: meant to fight off these things called aliens that for
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Speaker 1: some reason are attacking Tokyo three. No one's quite sure why.
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Speaker 1: But a select few kids, all selected from the same class,
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Speaker 1: by the way, so these are all like potential pilots,
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Speaker 1: were put into a school together. Um, a few are
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Speaker 1: selected to pilot to the avas, and the ava's have
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Speaker 1: to fight off the angels. And there's a whole lot
16:52
Speaker 1: of lore going on behind it, but I think at
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Speaker 1: its core it's sort of about Shinji really not wanting
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Speaker 1: to pilot this robot and his dad being like pilot
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Speaker 1: the robot. And it's just one season, right, yes, and
17:04
Speaker 1: there are movies afterwards. So when Shinji like joins the
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Speaker 1: whole scenario, there are already some pilots of these robots
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Speaker 1: and it's they it seems to be really difficult to
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Speaker 1: pilot the robots. Yes, it is not fun pilot, which
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Speaker 1: is kind of like seems goes against I think what
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Speaker 1: a lot of us would assume as kids is like
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Speaker 1: all you want to do is control a giant robot exactly.
17:30
Speaker 1: I think that my favorite animals sort of trouble the
17:34
Speaker 1: power trip fantasy, so like being you should be able
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Speaker 1: to do this thing and wield this power and it
17:39
Speaker 1: should be so much fun, but their complications and their restrictions.
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Speaker 1: Um Hunter Hunter, my favorite anime of all time, does
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Speaker 1: that as well. But in Ava sort of like who
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to pilot a huge robot? And they look
17:49
Speaker 1: really cool, I mean they look chic, their fears looking
17:55
Speaker 1: like they yeah blens Way for sure. No, just I
17:58
Speaker 1: feel like, um, I want to know more actually about
18:00
Speaker 1: like the place that this like that this kind of
18:04
Speaker 1: culture object found you, Like when did you first start
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Speaker 1: watching it? Why? Um, like when you like, what was
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Speaker 1: your kind of first impression? Like Rose and Eild virgins
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Speaker 1: to it. I think that we were saying, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: you you power through those first three episodes and like
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Speaker 1: you get into the world, like what was your kind
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Speaker 1: of first impression first? So I read this YouTube comment
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Speaker 1: that rang true to me, which is the more depressed
18:27
Speaker 1: you are when you find Evangelian, the more you will
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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I think that it is a very moody anime.
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Speaker 1: It is I think at its core about loneliness and
18:37
Speaker 1: about feelings of isolation. It's got this sort of like
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Speaker 1: apocalyptic but at the same time disaffected kind of thing
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Speaker 1: going on around it. The coolest girl in anime ever,
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Speaker 1: she's so cool. She really embodies the vibe of the
18:53
Speaker 1: whole thing, Like she's really cool, she's sexy, she's capable.
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Speaker 1: She never quite panics or freaks out, even though there's
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Speaker 1: these giant creatures attack King, and so the apocalypse sort
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Speaker 1: of becomes mundane and even yeah, they're very nonchalant to that,
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Speaker 1: like they're living in this bunker after this huge explosion
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Speaker 1: has taken half of humanity out and mist is sort
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Speaker 1: of just this hyper competent, sexy general kind of woman,
19:16
Speaker 1: and she's like, I gotta fight these angels today, gotta
19:19
Speaker 1: fight these monsters before they wipe out humanity, and she's
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Speaker 1: just sort of about it. Which I happened to watch
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Speaker 1: this anime before I guess the world really started falling apart,
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Speaker 1: But I think it's gaining more resonance with me now
19:30
Speaker 1: because the apocalypse does feel rather mundane at times, or
19:33
Speaker 1: like everything is falling apart, everything is apocalyptic every day
19:36
Speaker 1: and we're just still going about our little chores and
19:38
Speaker 1: going about our little lives. And you know, she's just
19:42
Speaker 1: a sort of like, you know, I love beer, I
19:43
Speaker 1: love taking weekends off, and I'm really good at fighting
19:46
Speaker 1: these aliens. Um. But I watched it about I want
19:50
Speaker 1: to say, twenty seventeen. I was a new Ish to
19:53
Speaker 1: New York still and really feeling that isolation of being
19:56
Speaker 1: surrounded by a lot of people, not really knowing everyone.
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Speaker 1: You know, that classic you're on the subway, people are
20:01
Speaker 1: all around you and you feel anonymized by the city.
20:04
Speaker 1: It's just like that very cliche, you know, but so
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Speaker 1: so real. And I think that evan Gelian is kind
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Speaker 1: of about that feeling of just like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: I'm alone in this world. Um, it's very isolating. It's
20:17
Speaker 1: very like in Evangelian Um for those who haven't watched it,
20:21
Speaker 1: they have this concept, which I love, called an absolute
20:24
Speaker 1: terror field. Okay, that's just my life. So literally, in
20:30
Speaker 1: the world of Evangelian the absolute terror field is the
20:33
Speaker 1: thing that makes you an individual. It is your fear
20:36
Speaker 1: of connecting with another person intimately that collects and holds
20:40
Speaker 1: you as a person that you can't quite merge seamlessly
20:44
Speaker 1: with another human beings. So it's a literal force field.
20:46
Speaker 1: The Angels have them, and they're more literal like their
20:49
Speaker 1: actual force field, so if you try shooting them with missiles,
20:51
Speaker 1: the absolute terror field will kind of protect them. But
20:54
Speaker 1: it works that way with humans too, because the goal
20:56
Speaker 1: of evan Gelian is the Human Instrumentality Project, which is
21:00
Speaker 1: meant to turn all of humanity into one superorganism. So
21:04
Speaker 1: they're all gonna lose their individuality and they're going to
21:06
Speaker 1: join into a blobby, hive mind kind of thing and
21:09
Speaker 1: it will be bliss and everyone will be reunited with
21:11
Speaker 1: everyone else, and that no one will ever be lonely again.
21:13
Speaker 1: That's sort of the idea behind human instrumentality. Meanwhile, everything
21:16
Speaker 1: is very depressing and isolating and desolate. Can you have
21:19
Speaker 1: your absolute terror field around you keeping anyone else from
21:23
Speaker 1: being able to breach the wall so to speak. Um, So,
21:26
Speaker 1: all those things going on, I think that they're quite
21:29
Speaker 1: easily turned into metaphors for depression, for loneliness, and I
21:33
Speaker 1: think Evangelian speaks to you the most if you're feeling
21:36
Speaker 1: that at the time. Okay, maybe I should try watching
21:39
Speaker 1: it again. Job, let me tell you I am depressed. Yeah,
21:43
Speaker 1: I feel I love that. I mean, there, I think
21:45
Speaker 1: it's so funny, consuming dystopian uh content of any kind. Um,
21:51
Speaker 1: But like I never would have thought how you said
21:53
Speaker 1: it so succinctially of like that feeling how unfortunately relatable
21:58
Speaker 1: it is to be like, oh, I'm in an important
22:00
Speaker 1: character in a movie about the end of the world,
22:03
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And but like within the
22:05
Speaker 1: show of Evangelion, like it's almost like the mundanity translates
22:10
Speaker 1: to something that is like so much more. Um. Yeah,
22:13
Speaker 1: I love that. But I feel like when I watch
22:14
Speaker 1: like even like watching Hunger Games or like Handmaids, I'm
22:17
Speaker 1: trying to think of like other dystopian fiction that we're
22:19
Speaker 1: consuming now where it's like, oh yeah, you first reading,
22:23
Speaker 1: you're like, oh that's so funny, that's so out of
22:24
Speaker 1: this world, and then you're like, oh no, yeah, that's
22:26
Speaker 1: kind of happening now. Yeah, squid Games not too far
22:31
Speaker 1: from reality. It's happening. Would you do if you were
22:34
Speaker 1: in the Hunger Games? Would you volunteer? Do you think
22:37
Speaker 1: you could survive? Um? I think, unfortunately, what if I
22:41
Speaker 1: was just like an avid consumer of the TV show,
22:43
Speaker 1: like when they like televise it like the games get
22:46
Speaker 1: to watch. That's the that's the part that everyone forgets
22:49
Speaker 1: about the Hunger Games is that there's a huge aspect
22:51
Speaker 1: of it which is about reality TV UM, and it's
22:55
Speaker 1: like for entertainment purposes. I think I sadly like, well, no,
22:58
Speaker 1: because I don't watch Survivor, So I don't know if
23:00
Speaker 1: I would be into the Hunger Games, Like what if
23:02
Speaker 1: I was just watching it like drag Race and I
23:04
Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, the Queen's this thing.
23:06
Speaker 1: That's where I'm like, I'm I'm unfortunately been told that
23:09
Speaker 1: I have like FI vibes, and so I I unfortunately
23:13
Speaker 1: see that I see some of my worst self in that. Um.
23:17
Speaker 1: So maybe I would be in the world of Hunger Games,
23:19
Speaker 1: someone who was an avid consumer of the Hunger Games
23:21
Speaker 1: and then maybe was radicalized two or three movies. Okay,
23:25
Speaker 1: I would be like the Donald Sutherland. I feel like
23:27
Speaker 1: the evil overlord with the bushy eyebrows, the bushiest eyebrows. Wait,
23:31
Speaker 1: what's the thing? He says, and that I'm a cock
23:38
Speaker 1: what the nicole? You know? More cock shuck, But like
23:43
Speaker 1: in the old school version, which is like the old
23:47
Speaker 1: school version of a cocksucker or someone who sucks cocks. Um.
23:53
Speaker 1: Something the anime does so well is that that like
23:56
Speaker 1: kind of dystopian isolation, even when the narrative isn't dystopie.
24:00
Speaker 1: And like I'm thinking of a lot of like Miyazaki
24:02
Speaker 1: films or like a Princess Mononoke or like something we're in.
24:06
Speaker 1: It's like that character is somehow like so alone and
24:09
Speaker 1: so and like within that aloneness it becomes like heroic.
24:13
Speaker 1: It feels like, I mean, I know in Miyazaki creates
24:15
Speaker 1: like a protagonist. He's always trying to like take someone
24:18
Speaker 1: who's like really flawed, like in Spirited Away, someone who's
24:21
Speaker 1: like manic or like she's just a child, but also
24:24
Speaker 1: has the ability to like traverse an insurmountable level of dystopia. Um.
24:29
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate that, and like the animal genrange.
24:31
Speaker 1: I really love taking little breaks from I guess what
24:34
Speaker 1: I would think of as American storytelling. I think in
24:37
Speaker 1: a love of Japanese storytelling, it can get very dark
24:39
Speaker 1: and also not necessarily give you the payoff you expect
24:42
Speaker 1: at the end, where it's like, but everything will be okay, right,
24:44
Speaker 1: and then it's just like maybe not maybe give me
24:48
Speaker 1: give me a sad ending. Yeah, seriously, and like the
24:52
Speaker 1: end of Evangeli and the show anyway. Um. Not speaking
24:55
Speaker 1: on the movies is so vague and so like is
24:58
Speaker 1: this good? Is this bad? I can't really tell. I
25:01
Speaker 1: just love stuff like that, and you get that watching movies,
25:04
Speaker 1: I guess from other cultures as well. Just let you
25:06
Speaker 1: take a little vacation from the tyranny of American optimism,
25:11
Speaker 1: where it's just like the end everyone has there has
25:13
Speaker 1: to be a wedding where everyone's cool at the end,
25:15
Speaker 1: every dad's fine. The happily ever after feels very western. Yeah,
25:19
Speaker 1: and movie studios won't make things without happy endings like
25:22
Speaker 1: it's such a fierce Um. What what was your gateway
25:25
Speaker 1: drug into anime? As something of an anime consume? It
25:29
Speaker 1: brings me no pleasure to announce this. Um it was Naruto.
25:32
Speaker 1: And I know everything there is to know about Naruto.
25:35
Speaker 1: Is it frowned up myself? Is it frowned upon an
25:38
Speaker 1: anime community? You know, it's just silly to me because
25:41
Speaker 1: here's why my little sisters love Naruto. It's so good
25:45
Speaker 1: and so bad. Like I think if the quality of
25:48
Speaker 1: the later seasons were better, I would be like more
25:51
Speaker 1: upfront about being a Naruto stand. But I know everything
25:54
Speaker 1: about the Great Ninja War arc, and that is trash
25:57
Speaker 1: like garbage, garbage story telling. Nothing makes sense. People have
26:02
Speaker 1: sort of checked out in terms of the animation and
26:04
Speaker 1: the art style. Um, everyone gets brought back as some
26:07
Speaker 1: sort of zombie like clearly they're out of ideas. And
26:10
Speaker 1: it's just hard. It's hard being a Naruto stand. We
26:13
Speaker 1: are often um overlooked in this country and we are underfed.
26:18
Speaker 1: And what is Naruto about? Um? Naruto is about a goofy,
26:25
Speaker 1: little neglected ninja who would grow up to become the
26:27
Speaker 1: Ninja president. Um. So he went from a child soldier
26:31
Speaker 1: to being the leader of the child soldiers and that's beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. Yeah,
26:37
Speaker 1: it sounds sounds great. Well, that's what's so weird about
26:40
Speaker 1: Naruto is that, like, so the main antagonist is always like,
26:42
Speaker 1: this whole system is horrible. I'm going to like get
26:45
Speaker 1: rid of it and start over again. And the show
26:47
Speaker 1: makes you think that's this horrible idea, and then you
26:49
Speaker 1: look at it again, it's like, why are these children
26:51
Speaker 1: going out fighting each other with knives and their little superpowers?
26:55
Speaker 1: And that's not great. Maybe Sacek made some points, but
26:58
Speaker 1: the show kind of doesn't let you explore that. There's
27:01
Speaker 1: a lot of anime child warriors, like even Sailor Moon
27:04
Speaker 1: like that, by the power of the Moon, I will
27:07
Speaker 1: punish you, like she is a you know, magical girl,
27:10
Speaker 1: um teenage uh the magical cop cop, magical moon cop.
27:18
Speaker 1: She is a magical you know. It's so I was
27:21
Speaker 1: about to say, Taylor Swift, Sailor Moon was like definitely
27:23
Speaker 1: my gateway drug. I guess maybe a lot of baby
27:26
Speaker 1: queers had that. But I remember being in like the
27:29
Speaker 1: anime aisle, or rather not even an aisle, like an
27:32
Speaker 1: anime like section of Blockbuster and begging my mom to
27:36
Speaker 1: let me take home like the vhs that had like
27:39
Speaker 1: the first eight episodes or whatever, because like my mom
27:43
Speaker 1: wouldn't didn't want me to bring it home because it's
27:45
Speaker 1: like very femin It's like this, like you know, it's
27:47
Speaker 1: like almost like Barbie content, you know what I mean.
27:49
Speaker 1: And so there was something where she was just like,
27:51
Speaker 1: my Sean can't watch this. But like I when I
27:54
Speaker 1: took it home, I remember being like kind of like
27:57
Speaker 1: in it for the girliness and then staying for you know,
28:01
Speaker 1: that subversion of like the heroine of like because Sailor
28:05
Speaker 1: Moon is like famously like a dumb bimbo, and I
28:09
Speaker 1: feel like she's like never knows what's going on, and
28:11
Speaker 1: like she never she's like always at a cross um,
28:13
Speaker 1: she's always at a crossroad that someone has to fix
28:16
Speaker 1: for her, but that she's still like saves the day
28:19
Speaker 1: every time. I don't consume anything where there's a little
28:21
Speaker 1: theme going on, like I'm the lightning one, I'm the
28:23
Speaker 1: fire one, I'm the water one. I love that. Well.
28:27
Speaker 1: Like Pokemon, let's talk about it. I think we should
28:30
Speaker 1: have that conversation conversation. What was your Pokemon? Your first
28:33
Speaker 1: Pokemon memories, my first Pokemon memories. My god, it goes
28:37
Speaker 1: so far back. I remember getting a Pikachu plush because
28:40
Speaker 1: I was gay. I was very uninterested in like the
28:41
Speaker 1: actual like card game. I didn't want to play anyone else.
28:44
Speaker 1: I wanted to collect the shiny ones, for sure. But
28:46
Speaker 1: they were like boys in my Catholic school who knew
28:49
Speaker 1: all the rules and we're very into like actually battling
28:51
Speaker 1: each other, or like back in those days you would
28:53
Speaker 1: connect your game boys together with a cable and joking
28:59
Speaker 1: that's a double end dildo. I was mostly in it
29:02
Speaker 1: for the aesthetics, like I am for everything else in
29:03
Speaker 1: this world. I was just like, oh, I love the
29:05
Speaker 1: way these look. Um, specifically like dragon Air. I think
29:09
Speaker 1: that's the gayest. Yeah, the one with the horn and
29:13
Speaker 1: the wings. I saw her at dragon Airs at Pieces.
29:17
Speaker 1: Yeah she's at Pieces right now. Um yeah. I I
29:21
Speaker 1: remember also not being that into the card game at all.
29:24
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, these are pretty, and I
29:25
Speaker 1: want to draw all these Pokemon, and I'm going to
29:27
Speaker 1: collect a binder full of them, but like did not
29:29
Speaker 1: actually really connect to the lore. Obviously watched the series
29:33
Speaker 1: and was like horny for Brock and Misty. Yeah, talk
29:38
Speaker 1: about another heroin Bembo, Like Misty is so hot and
29:41
Speaker 1: so fierce. She's the water one. Yeah, she's the what
29:45
Speaker 1: was your Pokemon entry point? Okay? Great? Second grade? UM,
29:49
Speaker 1: that's when you know the the franchise of Pokemon took flight.
29:54
Speaker 1: It was like huge success, um. And once it reached
29:57
Speaker 1: like the American zeitgeist, and then, of course a little
30:00
Speaker 1: later reached the Midwest where I was, UM, kids started
30:04
Speaker 1: collecting cards and it was immediately banned at my high school.
30:08
Speaker 1: UM in large part because I think kids started fighting
30:11
Speaker 1: over cards, and there became financial ramifications to like, you know,
30:16
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve year olds, like giving away or getting
30:19
Speaker 1: tricked into like trading really expensive. Yeah. It was literally
30:24
Speaker 1: an economy, and all of a sudden, the parents have
30:27
Speaker 1: to like research on the monetary value of these cards,
30:29
Speaker 1: which is they're like, it's so absurd. It was an economy.
30:32
Speaker 1: Implying that there was a Bernie made off of the
30:35
Speaker 1: Pokemon economy in some middle school somewhere. I wonder who.
30:38
Speaker 1: I wonder who It wasn't me. I wasn't savvy. I
30:40
Speaker 1: was just like I love Metwo exactly. I never did
30:45
Speaker 1: the card game. I U got I wanted the game
30:49
Speaker 1: that when Nintendo Blue came out, I had the original
30:52
Speaker 1: Pokemon Nintendo game and I played it to the end,
30:56
Speaker 1: and then I never had any interest in Pokemon again.
30:59
Speaker 1: Uh wow, like people people were playing with the cards
31:05
Speaker 1: at my school. I just like, really, I wasn't into it.
31:09
Speaker 1: I think like I was into like Magical Girl anime. UM,
31:14
Speaker 1: but I don't know, like the game didn't really do
31:17
Speaker 1: it for me. Um. And I haven't like through the years,
31:20
Speaker 1: I have not really spent a lot of time with
31:24
Speaker 1: anime except you know, um, um, you know, upon your recommendations.
31:28
Speaker 1: And then okay, earlier this year, like the end of
31:31
Speaker 1: last year, I did get kind of into this one
31:33
Speaker 1: anime called the Ancient Major Spride. Have you watched you
31:38
Speaker 1: your sever down the Iceberg? I know what? Yeah? Okay,
31:42
Speaker 1: So it's about this girl who sells herself into slavery
31:48
Speaker 1: because she's poor. Um and she is, and she's bought
31:52
Speaker 1: by a demon who has like a skull head no no, no, um,
31:57
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm your daddy, now I'm going to
32:00
Speaker 1: take care of you. Also, you have magical powers, and
32:04
Speaker 1: that's kind of what the show is about. It's about
32:05
Speaker 1: her like getting into all these magical hi jinks and
32:08
Speaker 1: then he like comes and saves her and he's like,
32:10
Speaker 1: we're gonna get married, the classic coming of age narrative. Yeah,
32:15
Speaker 1: of course there was something like there was something a
32:29
Speaker 1: little insidious about like the fact that not all of these,
32:32
Speaker 1: not some of these like more adult enemies, but like
32:34
Speaker 1: a lot of these cartoons were designed for kids, and
32:37
Speaker 1: yet their characters are so hot, like so so I
32:41
Speaker 1: was attracted to every Miyazaki protagonist, all of them girls
32:44
Speaker 1: and boys, like and that anything the androgyny of like
32:47
Speaker 1: how pretty these characters were. It's like a part of that,
32:49
Speaker 1: like draw well animals very fami, very fam even the
32:54
Speaker 1: boys are so like emotive and like in their feelings
32:57
Speaker 1: and problems, huge huge hair. Oh my god, how much
33:02
Speaker 1: gel is being in these animals? And Gary ashcatch ums
33:08
Speaker 1: nemeses and Pokemon was a fag And I think that
33:11
Speaker 1: was the big crux of their relationship, is like Gary
33:13
Speaker 1: was in love with Ash and like didn't want to
33:15
Speaker 1: admit it, you know what I mean. Um anyways, that's
33:18
Speaker 1: a tangent. I also needed to mention that, um my
33:21
Speaker 1: mother forbid me from watching Pokemon after like my first
33:26
Speaker 1: to Blockbuster rentals because a neighbor told her that people
33:31
Speaker 1: were getting seizures from it. Yeah, No, not at all.
33:35
Speaker 1: I mean there might have ben there may yeah, of
33:37
Speaker 1: course there may be. Maybe what there was like one
33:39
Speaker 1: headline m that my mom read on like focus on
33:42
Speaker 1: the Family dot com or something like that about how
33:44
Speaker 1: like someone you know with epilepsy maybe saw Pikachuse Flash
33:48
Speaker 1: and had a seizure or something. But like my mom
33:50
Speaker 1: literally forbid me from watching it because she was like, no,
33:53
Speaker 1: Pokemon gives you seizures. And I was like, Okay, I
33:56
Speaker 1: definitely definitely remember Pokemon. I think kind of Harold Ding
34:00
Speaker 1: the the anime boom in America and we really have
34:04
Speaker 1: had it ever since. And having sisters who are younger
34:09
Speaker 1: than me, they're they're eighteen year old twins. Um it was.
34:13
Speaker 1: They love anime and have like their their whole lives
34:18
Speaker 1: as they've been like conscious of what they're consuming. And
34:21
Speaker 1: I think, I guess, and it's just now part of
34:23
Speaker 1: like the culture Alexicon for for kids growing up now
34:27
Speaker 1: they have so much more access to it than even
34:30
Speaker 1: we did as teenagers. You know. I just thought about
34:33
Speaker 1: one thing that needs to be addressed is the number
34:35
Speaker 1: of bops that anime has given us in weeks, like
34:39
Speaker 1: a Cruel Angels thesis, the theme song to Ethan Gillian
34:41
Speaker 1: I love, It's so good it's it's slab, like the
34:48
Speaker 1: theme songs Oh please, the full Middle Alchemist soundtrack incredible,
34:52
Speaker 1: like oh my gosh, sailor Moon. Honestly, I was at
34:56
Speaker 1: a party that I will not name and promote here
34:58
Speaker 1: where they played a a remix of the Pokemon theme
35:03
Speaker 1: song and I astral projected, we're taking this out. Bleep it,
35:10
Speaker 1: bleep it, phoebe by. No, I was not on the
35:14
Speaker 1: poke bon I was. I was at something. I was
35:16
Speaker 1: at another time party, another bleep party, um, and uh
35:20
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It slapped its leaped so hard. But
35:22
Speaker 1: I also was thinking about I don't know if we
35:24
Speaker 1: want to get to this too fast, But I am
35:26
Speaker 1: thinking about urion Ice, of course, are well you think
35:30
Speaker 1: about your course for the virgins. For the virgins, uri
35:34
Speaker 1: on Ice is maybe one of the gayest things ever created.
35:38
Speaker 1: And we have consumed, between the three of us a
35:41
Speaker 1: lot of gay ship. We are paid to consume a
35:44
Speaker 1: lot of homorotic things, and easily your on Ice is
35:49
Speaker 1: the gayest because it's not because it's not only about ice,
35:52
Speaker 1: it's not only about figure skating. It's about gay figure skating,
35:56
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a an anime of gay figure skating,
35:59
Speaker 1: and they create they create an entire romance. So long
36:03
Speaker 1: story short, there is like a kind of flop ice
36:06
Speaker 1: skater who is trying to get his he's trying to
36:09
Speaker 1: re emerge into the zitegeist as like he's trying to
36:11
Speaker 1: you know, have his moment back and be a professional
36:15
Speaker 1: figure skater. And he falls in love with a coach
36:18
Speaker 1: that is just basically body shames him into greatness. Um,
36:21
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Um. And so I remember when I was
36:24
Speaker 1: watching this, I was just like, wait, this is for children,
36:28
Speaker 1: and it's huge, huge, and like consumed by heterosexual people
36:34
Speaker 1: massively in Japan, and yet um yeah, it's like like,
36:38
Speaker 1: so it's the horniest thing I've ever seen. And yet
36:41
Speaker 1: they never well it's arguable they kiss, but it's like
36:45
Speaker 1: their faces are hidden. Why don't you think they I
36:48
Speaker 1: think it's up for interpretation, and I think that they don't.
36:51
Speaker 1: They absolutely kissed. Why it is literally so gay that
36:54
Speaker 1: it's ambiguous. That's the thing. Actually, that's that's not Ki
37:00
Speaker 1: sing is gayer than kissing, Okay, but the only thing
37:03
Speaker 1: gayer than gay sex is the anticipation of gays. Let
37:06
Speaker 1: me tell you they have a plenty of gay sex
37:08
Speaker 1: in fan fiction. That there is a lot. There's a
37:11
Speaker 1: lot of urion Ice fan fiction. And I have read
37:14
Speaker 1: some of it. I have not I have not written
37:18
Speaker 1: any of I have I have read a lot. I
37:21
Speaker 1: um My, one of my best friends lives in Japan,
37:23
Speaker 1: and he brought me a stack of urion Ice fan
37:28
Speaker 1: fix that they literally like published and is sold in bookstores.
37:31
Speaker 1: Like a lot of anime fan fic is like sold
37:33
Speaker 1: in bookstores, and it's very It's like a whole other
37:35
Speaker 1: genre of things. I love that genre of like homo erotic,
37:39
Speaker 1: super niche anime. Like there's ones that are just about cooking.
37:43
Speaker 1: What's the digest Like, what are some of them are
37:45
Speaker 1: about bread? Well, Like there's literally an anime family, just
37:48
Speaker 1: like there's a kink for everything. There's an anime for
37:50
Speaker 1: absolutely everything. If there is an industry out there, there
37:52
Speaker 1: is a niche sort of slice of life anime coffee shop,
37:56
Speaker 1: anime restaurant, anime, um anime about like it's just every
38:01
Speaker 1: like pilots. Yeah, exactly, if you can dream it, it exists, Yeah,
38:05
Speaker 1: which is why Yurie was like, I was like, this
38:07
Speaker 1: is so specific, and I'm enraptured by whether or not
38:11
Speaker 1: he's going to do this like quadruple parrouet or whatever.
38:13
Speaker 1: It made me so interested in figure for like for
38:17
Speaker 1: like a very short amount of time. Yeah, and the
38:20
Speaker 1: and the interest was really only relevant to the show
38:23
Speaker 1: because like I do like some figure skating, like I'll
38:27
Speaker 1: watch the Winter Olympics sometimes, but my interest wanes pretty quickly.
38:32
Speaker 1: And I was realizing that it was more about, you know,
38:34
Speaker 1: like the gay relationship drama than the figure skating of
38:38
Speaker 1: it all. Um, I wish there was more of it.
38:40
Speaker 1: There was supposed to be a movie. There wasn't. And
38:44
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm ready for the movie whenever it comes out.
38:47
Speaker 1: But you're on ice doing for you, Adam Ripon, couldn't
38:49
Speaker 1: I love? Actually, you can watch it on crunchy roll
38:54
Speaker 1: question or I guess you can pirate. Yes, I have
38:56
Speaker 1: a crunchy roll subscription. I thought I bought it to
39:00
Speaker 1: watch the Ancient Majors Brian Why because because okay, here's
39:06
Speaker 1: actually how it happened. I was watching the Lindsay Ellis
39:10
Speaker 1: video about Stephanie Meyer, and it was like apologizing to
39:16
Speaker 1: Stephanie Meyer. Linda Ellis is a video essayist, and it
39:21
Speaker 1: was about like the how badly everyone treated Stephanie Meyer
39:24
Speaker 1: when Twilight came out, and it started delving into like
39:28
Speaker 1: the like monster boyfriend trope, which is like obviously what
39:32
Speaker 1: Twilight is, and started talking about Ancient Major's Brian and
39:36
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm into that. One thing Rose is
39:39
Speaker 1: going to do with any genre is find the that
39:44
Speaker 1: absolutely regardless of absolutely It's like I have a homing beacon.
39:52
Speaker 1: It calls you home. Yeah, directly to like the weirdest,
39:55
Speaker 1: most perverted, darkest possible offshoot of whatever you will. You
40:02
Speaker 1: will find her at the bottom of the iceberg every
40:04
Speaker 1: single time, like licking the iceberg. No wait, that's actually
40:11
Speaker 1: such a a absolutely accurate thing about how you can seem.
40:16
Speaker 1: But it's also it's true, and it's like, you know what,
40:18
Speaker 1: I'm happy that I have stayed curious and that and
40:21
Speaker 1: that when something like that pops up, I'm not just like, oh, Okay,
40:26
Speaker 1: cool child is born an artist. Yeah, you kind of
40:29
Speaker 1: have to. That's a thing. Sometimes it's like I think
40:31
Speaker 1: that the best cultural critics are the ones that also
40:34
Speaker 1: understand what's at the bottom of the barrel, you know
40:36
Speaker 1: what I mean, the things that are maybe the worst
40:39
Speaker 1: parts of the genre. That's still okay, let's not talk
40:42
Speaker 1: dirty about ancient majors. Yeah, maybe not that specifically, but
40:48
Speaker 1: I do think like when I consume something, like I
40:50
Speaker 1: kind of want to watch the bad thing too, you
40:52
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I think it helps me
40:54
Speaker 1: understand when totally there's and there's a lot of bad animals.
40:59
Speaker 1: Well that's where you mind, like people just trying to
41:02
Speaker 1: scratch the itch or whatever. And I think that's what
41:04
Speaker 1: drives most of most art forms in the world. It's
41:07
Speaker 1: just more laid bare in the worst parts of it.
41:09
Speaker 1: Like you see what the goals of most anime are
41:12
Speaker 1: in a very simple form. When you look at a
41:14
Speaker 1: bad anime, it's like, okay, yeah, it's for escapism, it's
41:17
Speaker 1: for like looking at huge anime racks, like it's just
41:21
Speaker 1: their breasts are so large, heaving, heaving, both the men
41:26
Speaker 1: and the women. They have very large, big naturals. That's
41:30
Speaker 1: that's a very crucial part of it. And I think
41:33
Speaker 1: mikers on a new anime o, God, I'm sure it
41:37
Speaker 1: exists already is the thing that I was about to
41:39
Speaker 1: say on Sailor Moon, but I think she's like sixty.
41:42
Speaker 1: They're very young on Sailor Moon, but they're just like
41:45
Speaker 1: they fully formed. Tuxino Mask was one of my early
41:48
Speaker 1: childhood crushes. But okay, who was your favorite sailor scout?
41:53
Speaker 1: Mine was Sailor Venus. Mine was, I believe, also Venus,
41:57
Speaker 1: if not Mars. Well, mine was, weirdly Sailor Mars, which
42:00
Speaker 1: I don't understand for myself because that doesn't feel like
42:03
Speaker 1: it fits with the rest of me. I don't know
42:04
Speaker 1: she's I think Sailor Mars is the gayest of them. Well,
42:09
Speaker 1: isn't she gay in the original? No, because in the
42:11
Speaker 1: in the so in the basically when Sailor Moon. Can
42:15
Speaker 1: you all can correct me on this, When Sailor Moon
42:17
Speaker 1: came over to the US, they took out all of
42:19
Speaker 1: the queer ship that was in the original. Yeah, Neptune
42:22
Speaker 1: in Neptune and Uranus. Yeah, I'm sure it was Neptune
42:25
Speaker 1: in Uranus um. But I remember like being totally like
42:30
Speaker 1: sideswiped when someone told me that they was queer stuff
42:32
Speaker 1: and sailone and I was like, no, there wasn't because
42:34
Speaker 1: it's because of the way they dubbed it, which is like,
42:37
Speaker 1: you know, a big conversation when it comes to anime
42:40
Speaker 1: is like dubbing versus subbing, and like what gets lost
42:44
Speaker 1: when you watch a dub version rather than the original,
42:47
Speaker 1: which you should always watch the subs always, but even
42:51
Speaker 1: then you might not be getting like the correct translation. Right, Yeah,
42:55
Speaker 1: I feel like, Um, it's also like very funny and
42:57
Speaker 1: obviously you know anime of files you should like slade
43:00
Speaker 1: into ideas and provide more context. But like I do
43:02
Speaker 1: think that, like it's funny that like Japan, like in
43:06
Speaker 1: terms of like how um queer people are seen in
43:09
Speaker 1: that society. Like it's it's actually like a super homophobic,
43:12
Speaker 1: like very rigid kind of version that has really rich
43:15
Speaker 1: like subcultures um in like where communities there, and yet
43:20
Speaker 1: like Homo anime is so massily consumed and accepted in
43:26
Speaker 1: a way that it's almost what in a way that
43:28
Speaker 1: was like to you know, risque for American audiences, you
43:32
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, but yeah, I would love
43:35
Speaker 1: to if anybody has more context. Well, it's like I
43:38
Speaker 1: guess like whenever you have a no Homo moment that
43:41
Speaker 1: allows you to have all the homoments like, that's why
43:45
Speaker 1: your ion ice can exist when like literally in the
43:48
Speaker 1: first episode victors like naked in the Hot Spring is
43:51
Speaker 1: like get in with me, but as long as you
43:53
Speaker 1: don't see them kiss, it's fine. And sis straight women
43:56
Speaker 1: like in who that consume anime? In Japan, the the
44:00
Speaker 1: largest genre they read is gay anime. It's the same
44:04
Speaker 1: male anime. Yeah right, we're right. What is the overlet there? Like?
44:07
Speaker 1: What is that? Um? We could go a dangerous route
44:11
Speaker 1: and let's do it touch on hintie. Oh, obviously we're
44:16
Speaker 1: looking the iceberg. We're here the iceberg. Talking to one
44:22
Speaker 1: of my really good friends the other day and we
44:24
Speaker 1: had this moment. I don't remember why it got brought up.
44:27
Speaker 1: He was like, have you ever seen Goblin Dungeon? Have
44:29
Speaker 1: you is? Tell me this is not a hentie, tell
44:33
Speaker 1: me this is not At this dark moment where we
44:36
Speaker 1: both confessed that we've seen Goblin Dungeon, I don't remember
44:39
Speaker 1: why I saw. It's basically, um, this video about these
44:43
Speaker 1: really hot anime boys men and they go into this
44:47
Speaker 1: cave to fight some goblins and the goblins end up
44:50
Speaker 1: sucking them. I'm googling, right, you know, be careful you
44:54
Speaker 1: look up on my heart WiFi, but listen, they will
44:59
Speaker 1: do it. It's way words. Yeah, it's we're actually changing
45:03
Speaker 1: the name of this podcast to Goblin. This goblin is
45:07
Speaker 1: very hot. He's got jugs, he's going on big, he
45:10
Speaker 1: does not skip chest a. There's a lot to take
45:12
Speaker 1: in Goblin Dungeon. I would read the essay on Goblin Dungeon.
45:16
Speaker 1: I would read the thesis. I honestly, I'm not ashamed
45:19
Speaker 1: about the fact that I love HINTI porn. It's definitely
45:21
Speaker 1: not like my first saying that I will, you know,
45:23
Speaker 1: put in my on my my porn alt. Where's your
45:27
Speaker 1: stripe on the flag? What are we adding to the
45:32
Speaker 1: remote flag to make you feel? This is absolutely a
45:35
Speaker 1: representation moment. This is a very important visibility for the
45:39
Speaker 1: anime woman with huge jugs on top of No, I
45:43
Speaker 1: love good NTI porn like. It's definitely follow a lot
45:45
Speaker 1: of hint I accounts on my porn all. Do you
45:48
Speaker 1: actually masturbate to it? Not? Usually, it's it's maybe like
45:53
Speaker 1: it's more of an aesthetic appreciation seasonal once a quarter,
45:57
Speaker 1: once every other quarter. I just find it like I
46:00
Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't like engage with a lot
46:03
Speaker 1: of porn that way, but when I do, like, I
46:05
Speaker 1: kind of need them to be real people. I need
46:08
Speaker 1: y'all to accept me in this moment. I do accept you, y'all.
46:12
Speaker 1: Watch y'all watch like tune porn of any kind? Like
46:15
Speaker 1: any sort of hint? Have y'all watched I have watched
46:18
Speaker 1: tune porn historically, but it's not Have you watched the
46:22
Speaker 1: one where Tarzan from Tarzan Fox Mila from Atlantis? That genre?
46:27
Speaker 1: I've seen Flynn writer and um Kristof. Yes, I think
46:31
Speaker 1: that might be. If you follow Mr x tune on Twitter,
46:35
Speaker 1: I strongly recommend his stuff is very talented. His clips
46:39
Speaker 1: are the clips are very shortott art. You should subscribe
46:41
Speaker 1: to his patreon and get the full bid. There is
46:43
Speaker 1: a really funny image of from Frozen of of Elsa,
46:52
Speaker 1: Anna and Kristof in bed and Anna and Christoph for
46:55
Speaker 1: having sex and her and Elsa are just holding hands.
47:01
Speaker 1: It's so curse. What was so so funny? For some
47:04
Speaker 1: reason that you were going to bring up bowl off
47:06
Speaker 1: in that? I'm sure that exists. Oh yeah, for sure,
47:10
Speaker 1: let me just google that Carrots there for a reason,
47:12
Speaker 1: WiFi Rose, you are maybe the first and definitely primary
47:19
Speaker 1: person to send me tune porn. Yeah, in earnest and
47:22
Speaker 1: in a funny in a funny wrench porn. I've got
47:26
Speaker 1: wicked porn. I love I love grand and the King
47:31
Speaker 1: Triton porn. Actually, I feel like I sent that to you,
47:34
Speaker 1: did send that to me, but I had already but
47:35
Speaker 1: I had already seen it. This is the thing is
47:39
Speaker 1: usually when Frand sends me something that is a really curse,
47:43
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, ah ha ha, but in reality,
47:46
Speaker 1: you already have. I saved it to my camera. Like
47:49
Speaker 1: five years ago. There's this the iPhone, the new iOS
47:54
Speaker 1: has these little thing things called widgets, and you can
47:57
Speaker 1: have this like fun with the day that it'll be
48:00
Speaker 1: like it'll take like featured photos from like your camera
48:03
Speaker 1: roll and like put it on your like homepage screen.
48:07
Speaker 1: Very bad idea to do this for my phone, But
48:09
Speaker 1: like the other day, it was like just King Triton's whole,
48:13
Speaker 1: just like hole and balls, because I had it saved
48:16
Speaker 1: my cameral the bottom No, no, no, I mean in
48:20
Speaker 1: this image, he they're kind of painting him as this
48:23
Speaker 1: big daddy bottom um. But no, I don't think Triton
48:26
Speaker 1: is the bottom. No, no, no, I think he's maybe
48:28
Speaker 1: a sub top poor unfortunate holes that was low hanging fruit.
48:34
Speaker 1: We had to fight for Goblin Dungeon. Yes, this is
48:37
Speaker 1: The's what I'm saying when I say representation, honor your
48:40
Speaker 1: queer elders. Who brought you Goblin Dungeons? Yeah? Who's the
48:43
Speaker 1: anime boy who you have the biggest crush on? Yeah? Yeah,
48:46
Speaker 1: good question. I would have to really think about that one.
48:50
Speaker 1: There's a lot of hot ones. I mean, like the
48:52
Speaker 1: guy from kawee Bebop. Oh, yeah, he's gorgeous hot. They
48:56
Speaker 1: all kind of like sometimes they start to look similar
48:59
Speaker 1: with the big hair and like the Space person outfits
49:02
Speaker 1: across different shows. But I know there's other ones. I
49:06
Speaker 1: love Hako and Spirited Away. He's the dragon. I remember,
49:12
Speaker 1: like when I first watched that, I was maybe in
49:14
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth grade, and I didn't really grasp the
49:17
Speaker 1: plot because you know, I had undiagnosed a d h D.
49:19
Speaker 1: But I feel like I was just like here for
49:22
Speaker 1: Hako and the fact that he turned into a dragon,
49:24
Speaker 1: which is also hot. Turning into animals. Are dragons of
49:26
Speaker 1: any kind hot babes? Yeah, yeah, I would love to.
49:29
Speaker 1: I look for that in a man. It would be
49:31
Speaker 1: a nice feature. Yeah, the animals. I want my next
49:34
Speaker 1: boyfriend to be an animal. Just kidding, are you as
49:37
Speaker 1: a man not a river spirit? Yeah? How dare you?
49:41
Speaker 1: Spirited Away is so good? It's amazing. The food in
49:46
Speaker 1: it looks so delicious. You know what one dark confession
49:49
Speaker 1: I have is that I remember getting really titlated by
49:53
Speaker 1: the voice acting on Spirit of the Cimarron. The horse.
49:56
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what I'm going to I think it's
50:01
Speaker 1: Matt Damon. Literally it's not. I believe it's Matt Damon.
50:04
Speaker 1: They the people they get to dub. Some of Homie
50:07
Speaker 1: Zaki's films is Aretes are hot, speak on that horses
50:13
Speaker 1: are very hot, Housmanman Castle, Christian bale As Howl and
50:16
Speaker 1: the Right. What are some of your favorite anime tropes?
50:32
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, um, I mean like the whole Young Today, Like, oh,
50:37
Speaker 1: I'm a really hot girl and I'm mad but you
50:40
Speaker 1: love me, but I'm going to punch you every now
50:42
Speaker 1: and then. Like that's such a trope. I really enjoy
50:45
Speaker 1: um because like and even Gellian, it's Oscar obviously, like
50:49
Speaker 1: she has the red hair and she's German and she's
50:51
Speaker 1: a bit, and she's like, I'm really good at piloting
50:53
Speaker 1: this robot, your pathetic shinji. Like I love there's this
50:56
Speaker 1: one meme account that tweets every Saturday, like alone the
51:00
Speaker 1: Saturday Night pathetic. I love Oscar every Saturday night. Yeah,
51:07
Speaker 1: I love the I love the villain be like Nanny. Um.
51:12
Speaker 1: I think that maybe part of what attracted me to
51:15
Speaker 1: the world outside of like the thing that you said
51:17
Speaker 1: rose about, like the fact that every character is feminine
51:20
Speaker 1: kind of was like the world building, you know, like
51:24
Speaker 1: I was like a drawer and like love to like
51:27
Speaker 1: doodle and like think of characters and like build things
51:31
Speaker 1: that you know were existed like a part of a
51:34
Speaker 1: larger ecosystem, which is why I love Lord of the Rings.
51:37
Speaker 1: We all love Loved the Rings, Yes we do. Yeah.
51:39
Speaker 1: I think what you what you're touching on something is
51:41
Speaker 1: like every time I've watched an anime, you feel very
51:44
Speaker 1: dropped into the world. Um. And I I like stories
51:49
Speaker 1: like that where um, they kind of take for granted
51:52
Speaker 1: that you're smart enough to just sort of like pick
51:55
Speaker 1: it up as you go along. Um And yeah, that
52:00
Speaker 1: it's something that really works for me. I feel like
52:03
Speaker 1: I do this exercise sometimes as like um with like
52:06
Speaker 1: friends at parties or whatever, and I think we should
52:07
Speaker 1: all do it now, Like, which pokemon are you do
52:11
Speaker 1: most identify out in the original one fifty? Of course? Yeah,
52:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to need some help with this because I
52:17
Speaker 1: just don't know a lot of JP and I will
52:25
Speaker 1: I personally, I mean, I would love to know you're
52:28
Speaker 1: taking this. I feel sometimes like a pony Ta, like
52:33
Speaker 1: not like fully grown, but kind of radica. But the
52:38
Speaker 1: thing is like pony Ti is like not um like
52:41
Speaker 1: clumsy enough. Like so I'm trying to like, I don't know,
52:44
Speaker 1: there's like an anime that's maybe a little more interesting. Yeah, well,
52:49
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think I'm like fully formed, you
52:52
Speaker 1: know what I mean, has kind of the baby horse
52:54
Speaker 1: kind of thing going on, but like aesthetically, I definitely
52:57
Speaker 1: see it, especially now that you have the mullet. Yeah,
53:00
Speaker 1: who social culturally? Like who is the most anxious pokemon?
53:03
Speaker 1: Like what? Oh my god? No, there's so many other
53:06
Speaker 1: so many anxious at that are having a bad time.
53:10
Speaker 1: Let me say the whole thing Siduck is having headaches
53:15
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, signifies mental health issues maybe um
53:20
Speaker 1: um oh Voltar no, not Voltur the way, guess volt
53:26
Speaker 1: all lives in peril that he's going to explode and die. Well,
53:29
Speaker 1: the most depressing one is Cuban obviously, Yeah, because he
53:32
Speaker 1: wears the skulls his mom's skull, his mom his dead
53:35
Speaker 1: mom's skull. Does that mean every time that Cuban is born,
53:39
Speaker 1: his mom dies? Yeah? I got it. And then like
53:42
Speaker 1: they make a Disney Channel original movie about you know how,
53:44
Speaker 1: like you know, as Christie Cross and Romano would say,
53:49
Speaker 1: you know how in de Coms. There in Decoms the
53:52
Speaker 1: mom is always dead like every well every Disney property,
53:56
Speaker 1: like mom has to be dead. Yeah, twitches um um
54:00
Speaker 1: every Markana? Oh wait was Mary kay and Ashley? Is
54:03
Speaker 1: that Disney? No, well every Markaane Ashley movie. It's like
54:06
Speaker 1: it's always a single dad, Right, that's true. I feel
54:10
Speaker 1: like that. And then parent Trump Yeah okay, so JP,
54:12
Speaker 1: what which Pokemon would you mean? Probably Gang Gang Hunter,
54:19
Speaker 1: you give gang or Energy because very mischievous, probably one
54:22
Speaker 1: of the like the most like smart to like to
54:26
Speaker 1: see like incisive, like cerebral Pokemon cute. Yeah, and he's
54:31
Speaker 1: basically the little Purple Devil. Yeah, he's or I would
54:36
Speaker 1: say Dragon Night because that's he's a big boy. Well, yeah,
54:39
Speaker 1: he's a big boy dragon. I. I do love Gratini
54:42
Speaker 1: as well, a little like gay word gay work, I do.
54:47
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking I think you're more dragon night. Yeah,
54:51
Speaker 1: I see that, and like gangar maybe like when you
54:53
Speaker 1: get a little Yes, yeah, I see dragon e very
54:59
Speaker 1: like the softness. I remember being very tickled by the
55:02
Speaker 1: existence of needle Queen and needle King. I was actually
55:07
Speaker 1: needle Queen. Who's the who's the one that comes of
55:09
Speaker 1: four needle Queen? There was a weird gender thing. I
55:13
Speaker 1: was thinking about Rose for nit Arena because she's like
55:16
Speaker 1: a poison type and and but she's cute. Those are
55:20
Speaker 1: like those are like the tinx ones because there's an
55:22
Speaker 1: no in an all an Okay, JP, which pokemon do
55:29
Speaker 1: you think I am? Oh my gosh, okay. Well, and
55:32
Speaker 1: if this feels like a read, it's going to be
55:34
Speaker 1: a problem. The Queen, the Queen, Okay, the Queen nit
55:37
Speaker 1: Arena does have big naturals. Wait, like, JP, I'm going
55:42
Speaker 1: to give you nine tails because she's spooky. Oh yeah,
55:46
Speaker 1: and she's you know, sextually. Yeah, I see that. Oh
55:50
Speaker 1: she's like a little fox kind of moment. Yeah, Okay,
55:53
Speaker 1: very mystical ethereal but bad luck as well. Oh really,
55:57
Speaker 1: what's she's She's like a witch fox kind of thing.
56:02
Speaker 1: Oh my god, obsessed? Yeah yeah, she's the fiercest one
56:06
Speaker 1: other one. How do I make this my whole personality?
56:09
Speaker 1: Some do? Yeah, Twitter dot com. It's actually like a
56:13
Speaker 1: lot of game in whose whole thing is just like Pokemon.
56:15
Speaker 1: Ever knows that? Yeah? Or you know what Rose? Maybe
56:18
Speaker 1: article know? Oh well, but okay, I'm also thinking about
56:22
Speaker 1: Rose as a cancer and like her her like because
56:25
Speaker 1: I feel like you're the first impression Rose gives is
56:27
Speaker 1: usually like a fire type or a poison type, down down,
56:30
Speaker 1: deep down, Rose, U are water, yes or maybe psychic?
56:36
Speaker 1: But not Jinks? Who is canceled? Question Mark? It's it's
56:40
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Have we had the Jinks reckoning yet
56:42
Speaker 1: Jinks I think was canceled and because they reanimated her
56:45
Speaker 1: without the kind of black face thing that's going on
56:48
Speaker 1: with her as a Pokemon probably for the best, definitely,
56:52
Speaker 1: and maybe vapourion or like a Lapris. Okay, the thing
56:56
Speaker 1: about Lapris is she's sensitives stickle um hard to get
57:02
Speaker 1: to know, Like, she's kind of the isn't she like
57:04
Speaker 1: the locknest monster kind of Pokemon where she is like
57:09
Speaker 1: never ever seen, but she has this like exterior shell
57:13
Speaker 1: that is also like big on decase I want to
57:16
Speaker 1: get you in trouble. Who's your least favorite Pokemon of
57:19
Speaker 1: the mine? I mean maybe like like side Duck or
57:24
Speaker 1: ditto side Duck. I don't like Side Up. He's incompetent,
57:28
Speaker 1: but I guess he is kind of one of the
57:30
Speaker 1: most powerful ones. No, he's not. He's well, he doesn't.
57:33
Speaker 1: He's a He's a nice little boy with a headache. Okay, honestly,
57:38
Speaker 1: looking at side Duck, fran I think you might be.
57:42
Speaker 1: I think how accurate that is. He's always worrying about
57:48
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen like when we're on vacation and you
57:51
Speaker 1: and I see you like making coffee in the morning.
57:54
Speaker 1: It's a little side uck energy. But I'm trying to
57:57
Speaker 1: create an itinerary for our vacation, and I'm like like
58:01
Speaker 1: clutching my head and being like, come on, there's so
58:04
Speaker 1: much to extract about, Like how you know, like animal culture,
58:09
Speaker 1: tune culture is like part of it, because like if
58:11
Speaker 1: you bring up Pokemon in any scenario of people of
58:14
Speaker 1: our age, we'll start talking about it again or like
58:16
Speaker 1: or like Kingdom Hearts or oh my god, Kingdom was
58:20
Speaker 1: just added to Smash Actually, oh yeah, isn't she isn't
58:23
Speaker 1: she the last person? Oh? Really? Oh my gosh there yeah. Yeah.
58:30
Speaker 1: Kingdom Hearts is the one where it's like all the
58:32
Speaker 1: different characters from all the different things together the funniest
58:35
Speaker 1: video game ever made, because it's like, it's these anime
58:38
Speaker 1: characters and they've infiltrated the world of Disney sort of,
58:41
Speaker 1: so they have to fight in different Disney themed worlds.
58:44
Speaker 1: So it's like Donald Duck and Goofy interacting with these
58:48
Speaker 1: anime kids and they have to go to like a
58:50
Speaker 1: Toy story world where this anime villain has stolen buzz
58:53
Speaker 1: Lightyear and they have to fight with Woody to get
58:55
Speaker 1: him back. Interesting, Okay, there are some credible There is
59:01
Speaker 1: a there is a clip where Goofy dies and um,
59:05
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse and Sara and Donald Duck have to abandon
59:08
Speaker 1: the corpse to continue fighting whatever like villains they're fighting,
59:12
Speaker 1: and Mickey Mouse like, they'll pay for this. Well, sometimes
59:16
Speaker 1: you have to leave Goofy for dead and move on.
59:19
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse has a sword. By the way, Goofy is
59:22
Speaker 1: the weak link. Unfortunately he's he's he's a nice himbo
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Speaker 1: in that game. He's got his shield and he's really dumb,
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Speaker 1: and Donald is the Mage. So it follows like these
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Speaker 1: like um role play tropes where there's the Healer and
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Speaker 1: there's the Warrior and there's the Wizard and all these
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Speaker 1: Disney characters have to kind of fall into it because
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Speaker 1: you know we're playing. Did you ever get into some
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Speaker 1: dungeons and dragons everything? I just know that if I start,
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Speaker 1: it will become at least a fourth of my personality
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Speaker 1: that I can't let that happen to me. I only
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Speaker 1: have so many I don't I don't want that to have.
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Speaker 1: I want you to have a life. Thank you. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Like I've purposely avoided it, not because I don't think
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Speaker 1: I would like it, but because I know I would
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Speaker 1: like it and it's it's too much. But also like
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Speaker 1: if you want to take that ride, I will chase
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Speaker 1: that dragon with Yeah. That that is why I had
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Speaker 1: to avoid you and magic cards growing up. You seem
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Speaker 1: to have quite an important relationship with mew two. Yeah
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Speaker 1: you do, Yes, prominent Mexican American mewtwo. Um, I love
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Speaker 1: mew two. I think he's so funny. The idea of
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Speaker 1: mewtwo is hilarious to me. What about the idea of
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Speaker 1: mewtwo the thick thighs, I thought you were going to
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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna be like, you know, evil old. Well,
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Speaker 1: like the fact that he would like immediately upon birth,
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Speaker 1: he was like, why did you do this to me?
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Speaker 1: And like killed everything? It was responsible. I think that's funny. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that he was relatable. Yeah, born into the world, Let
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Speaker 1: me destroy the planet and how dare you do this
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Speaker 1: to me? Bring me into existence? Okay, I did watch
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Speaker 1: Detective Pikachu though, and Mew two isn't evil and right,
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Speaker 1: oh he's not. He's the victim. Well, mew two exists
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Speaker 1: in a lot of different canons, I think, and like
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Speaker 1: in the actual games, he's just sort of another legendary Pokemon.
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Speaker 1: Only in that movie is he this like conniving mastermind.
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Speaker 1: He the clones all the Pokemon and can make storms
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Speaker 1: happen with his brain and it's it's quite camp. Actually,
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Speaker 1: that movie is amazing, and he's so powerful and the
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Speaker 1: only thing that can destroy him is his Twink counterpart.
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Speaker 1: That's right. Well, And also it must be said that
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Speaker 1: Herman Kane plagiarize MEW two. Really, yes, I didn't know
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Speaker 1: that Herman Kane, who is dead now um plagiarized in
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Speaker 1: a political speech MEW two speech at the end where
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Speaker 1: when he has his realization about it doesn't matter about
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Speaker 1: the origins or the circumstances of your birth. What matters
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Speaker 1: is what you do with the gift of life, and
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Speaker 1: that is what Herman Kane stole. And then later everyone
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Speaker 1: was like, did you just steal MW two heading? She's everywhere?
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